general-chat

[silk sonnet]

650 W PSU is good

[sinful blade]

If you want, Corsair sells refurbished 750w on their official store

[silk sonnet]

if the day ever comes where im going get a GPU thats going to require more wattage, chances are ill also be able to afford a better PSU

[silk sonnet]

refurbished PSUs?

[sinful blade]

Yes

[silk sonnet]

ok

[sinful blade]

As I said earlier

Refurbished does not mean bad

.

[silk sonnet]

well

anything else?

i would also require a non-US socket cord but not sure if that is embedded direcrly into the PSU if you know what im saying

i meant plug

dont know if it is detachable

or whatever

I think it is actually

[mortal grail]

Should be

[silk sonnet]

how do I know if it will function with a 240volt socket?

[mortal grail]

You don't but ones that only list 115v

You need to check that the psu has a 240v mode

Vast majority do

[fresh timber]

i just know that most psus support 240 and 120

and if it doent its a bomb

[velvet summit]

there are more psus that are 240v only than there are 120v only psus for pcs honestly

vast majority is switchmode 110/240

[fresh timber]

vast majority gotta be 120 supprotiving

110 120 same thing

its a range

[silk sonnet]

can some one verify that the msi mag A650BN 650 W can support 240?

[fresh timber]

if its sold in your country your fine

[silk sonnet]

i live in the us bud

[fresh timber]

why do u need 240?

usa dont got that

[silk sonnet]

I need it for another country

in case I move

[fresh timber]

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A650BN/Specification

just read the spec sheet

[velvet summit]

you are very unlikely to find any psu that is 120v only for pc building

[silk sonnet]

yup

[velvet summit]

120v only is more common on more simpler electronics
like blenders, toasters, many dac/amps, etc.

[silk sonnet]

it has a range of 110 to 240v

[fresh timber]

bring your hair dryer from america to europe, overclocked mode

[velvet summit]

but in terms of pc power supplies, nearly all of them are 120/240, with the higher wattage ones (especially for servers) being 240 only

[velvet summit]

the 5 second heat gun

[fresh timber]

dont server psus run 120 fine just not at the max capcity

and 240 is just, better efficency+morewattage

i know people with homelabs will take two 120v and make em a 240 with a fancy ups

[silk sonnet]

i just need to find a socket cable that is rated to handle 240v right?

the plugs are different

btw

its bouta be a pain to find one

[sinful blade]

Dawg

[fresh timber]

just get a travel adapter or a c13 cable with the correct end

[sinful blade]

Most PSUs will support 240v

[silk sonnet]

yes i know

i gotta find a socket cable

[fresh timber]

why would they ship you a cable that cant handel 240v 🤔

[silk sonnet]

or whatever

[sinful blade]

Most sockets will also handle 240v

[silk sonnet]

the plugs are different my guy

[fresh timber]

c13 with the right prong

[sinful blade]

Unless the electrician is a dumb

[fresh timber]

what is a socket cable

[fresh timber]

or you live in america

[silk sonnet]

the literal plugs are different in that part of the world

i dont know how else to say that

the wall sockets are different

[mortal grail]

Lmao

C13 is 2400W rated capacity

[silk sonnet]

I gotta find a cable that ships in America that works for another part of the world

[mortal grail]

This is not 240v only

[sinful blade]

Amazon

[mortal grail]

Adapters are normally rated for 2400w as well

[silk sonnet]

yeah

[mortal grail]

The bn you guys checked was 110-240

So it works

[silk sonnet]

im really tired for today

i need to find an adapter and gpu for tomorrow

also would probably need to buy thermal paste separately if im ordering from aliexpress

[fresh timber]

voltage means nothing

its about the cables insolation

and how thick that boy is

put 120v and how many amps the wall gives and it will become a nice fuse

[silk sonnet]

is the corsair tm30 performance thermal paste any good?

[idle nexus]

6600 1:1 is very hard to stabilize

[silk sonnet]

Do I need anything else other than gpu, case and windows to build this pc?

[mortal grail]

Awful

[silk sonnet]

bruh

can you please link one

[rough zinc]

Go get some Arctic MX-4

[mortal grail]

Mx4 or mx6

Either or

[silk sonnet]

k

[mortal grail]

You emerge like every 3 weeks lately to tell me a new fact about the lord and saviour syncedeth christ

Lol

[silk sonnet]

changed the order list

Will i need literally anyrhing else for the build process

tools, parts anything

other than gpu, case and windows ofc

anything we havent talked about

[mortal grail]

Looks good

[silk sonnet]

speakers

etc

oh btw

ill deal with the peripherals later

[frigid stag]

T500 ssd is better

Costs around the same

[silk sonnet]

k

what about any other parts?

[mortal grail]

Were you raised without love

It's like double the price

Lmao

[frigid stag]

Should be like 70

[mortal grail]

90

[frigid stag]

You can probably get a msi gaming plus b650 for maybe 5 bucks more

[mortal grail]

C910 is budget meta

[gentle canyon]

"raised without love"

[frigid stag]

Better board

[frigid stag]

It’s on sale sometimes

[mortal grail]

Yeah but not today lol

[frigid stag]

Why are “budget” ssds always dramless 😦

[mortal grail]

C910 been a long time in the meta

[silk sonnet]

this is literally all im getting btw

[frigid stag]

6 core CPU’s and dramless ssds. ~~It’s like we never left 2017 ~~

[mortal grail]

Cos it's less parts ofc

[frigid stag]

At least go with sn770 that’s an ok dramless ssd

[silk sonnet]

nothing in the backgrounds

other than, agin, gpu, case and windows

DO i need literally anything else guys

tools whatever

[mortal grail]

Phillips head

[silk sonnet]

think I have it already

what about the actual hardware and stuff

[mortal grail]

Tongue for tasting paste (don't actually do this)

[silk sonnet]

checked

[mortal grail]

That's about it

[silk sonnet]

nice

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/alone-spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-sad-coffee-alone-gif-9534162778223036968

[silk sonnet]

bacca said he gon help me look for a gpu tomorrow

[topaz crown]

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[silk sonnet]

so thats set

[mortal grail]

I mean many recent model ssd's are good with pslc caching

C910 is good enough for the price

That's worse than the lightning

Vrm overcooked

I mean sure but for budget it's fine

[silk sonnet]

also

[tranquil pebble]

Rumia moment. Nevermind I read paste as people

[mortal grail]

Windows installs have more impact on ssd perf than the ssd itself

[silk sonnet]

can someone recommend a video or tutorial to learn how to build pc for absoule beginners

[mortal grail]

Check 👇

[silk sonnet]

assume that I know nothing

for the actual building process

[mortal grail]

Lightning matx can do full 250

B650s cannot

[tranquil pebble]

I can't imagine thermal paste would taste very good

[devout forum]

is there one of these for ITX?

[tranquil pebble]

or be healthy

[mortal grail]

Hey man, don't knock it til you try it

[mortal grail]

Just get asrock lightning

A620i or b650i

Meta picks

The rest overpriced or underperforming

I wouldn't recommend a board on par with an asus prime am5

Lmao

Those bottom 110+C boards may as well be naked a620s

[idle nexus]

lol who the heck is that?

[mortal grail]

That's how bad they are

[devout forum]

Believe me you do NOT want a Prime AM5 tier board

[mortal grail]

The lord of the 1:1

[devout forum]

Source: I mfing have one

[frigid stag]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7nYmP6/asus-prime-x670e-pro-wifi-atx-am5-motherboard-prime-x670e-pro-wifi

Ig it’s not this one

[acoustic palm]

I have possibly one of the single worst am4 boards rn

[mortal grail]

That one's bad for different reasons

[idle nexus]

heck maybe Syncdeth knows how to stabilize 6600 1:1. I wonder if I jack ProcODT up even higher if I could get 6800 to POST lol

[sweet phoenix]

I have a gigabyte a320

[hoary zodiac]

Slop prime

[sweet phoenix]

Im sure that's one of the worst am4 boards

[hoary zodiac]

Oh god is that back when they made dogcrap boards

[acoustic palm]

320?

[mortal grail]

Yee

[frigid stag]

They still do if you buy the bottom end stuff

[hoary zodiac]

I remember when Gigabyte was an absolute meme

[devout forum]

The Gigglebyte era

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair gigabyte's cheaper boards have gotten better

[sweet phoenix]

Its running a 3400g and 1650 for my emulator that's been used a total of 0 times so far

[hoary zodiac]

And by cheaper I don't mean the e-waste tier stuff

[frigid stag]

Ye cuz in the pcmr spirit you must buy cheapest board for Le “price to performance”

[mortal grail]

Now if you want tapped out AM5 you get gigglebit x670 or b650 <$200 or a taichi lite

[tranquil pebble]

Gigabyte PSUs still a meme?

[mortal grail]

GB come a long way

[mortal grail]

EK

[silk sonnet]

so any other build video recommendations?

[mortal grail]

[frigid stag]

Idk why that was there

[acoustic palm]

Oh yeah is there anything complicated in the process of changing ssd/hdd between computers

[frigid stag]

Auto correct

Very weird

[hoary zodiac]

That's not price/performance if you're getting crap vrms

[frigid stag]

Pretty much

[mortal grail]

Yeah it's like what they used to do with psus but half as bad and no one gets it

[frigid stag]

Maybe it was 2018

[silk sonnet]

?

[acoustic palm]

My hdd works perfectly fine mind you 😦

[frigid stag]

Just look on youtube there’s many other ones

But that ones enough for the basics

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com

[mortal grail]

#building-and-recc-chat

[hoary zodiac]

Sata ssd

🔥

[frigid stag]

Then they evolved to “128gb sata ssd”

[hoary zodiac]

hey sata was good

[frigid stag]

Even loading games off hdd feels so slow

[hoary zodiac]

Until nvmes actually got affordable

[mortal grail]

Meanwhile $40 psu

[frigid stag]

Ye in like 2014 they were recommending it till like 2020

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair

[frigid stag]

Bigger sata ssds are fine

[hoary zodiac]

Sata ssds in 2020 weren't too bad

Like

[mortal grail]

My fastest boot drive is a bx500

[hoary zodiac]

It was still before nvmes were truly cheap

[mortal grail]

I reach windows in like 7 seconds

Lmao

[rancid juniper]

no fast boot?

[frigid stag]

Something is up

[mortal grail]

Nope

[hoary zodiac]

After that nvme prices fell off a cliff

[frigid stag]

With that pc

[rancid juniper]

😳

dayum

[hoary zodiac]

Isn't the BX500 the dramless too?

[frigid stag]

With the i9?

[mortal grail]

Heh

5900x

[frigid stag]

How long is i9 boot time?

[rancid juniper]

how do you boot quick without fast boot tho

[hoary zodiac]

Imagine using fast boot

[mortal grail]

Like 3 minutes

[frigid stag]

Wtf

[mortal grail]

I have 3 raid arrays

[rancid juniper]

stop the cap

[hoary zodiac]

Couldn't be me

[rancid juniper]

oh

[mortal grail]

Yeah surprise surprise I use an i9 for i9 things

[frigid stag]

Did you try it before you had them setup

[mortal grail]

Uh no cos removing cables amongst a heavily packed water loop is annoying af

[frigid stag]

[mortal grail]

15tb of drives I don't wanna unplug

[frigid stag]

Ye that makes sense

[mortal grail]

To give you better context

[hoary zodiac]

How do you end up with 15TB

[mortal grail]

My hand does not reach

I need to use a screwdriver to take the gpu out

[hoary zodiac]

Are they a bunch of 2.5TB drives or something

[mortal grail]

To reattach the drives

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

Wait

[mortal grail]

Then put the gpu back

[hoary zodiac]

5TB drives exist

[frigid stag]

Don’t you have other lga1700 CPU’s

[hoary zodiac]

Nvm

[mortal grail]

Another i9 that's all rn

[frigid stag]

Ah

[mortal grail]

That one is like 10 seconds on a kc3000

[frigid stag]

Thought you had an i5 or something

[frigid stag]

Ddr5?

[mortal grail]

11400h

[hoary zodiac]

I have an i5...

[mortal grail]

Ye

[north crescent]

Well enabling fast boot only does booting fast. If you want to boot quick, you need to use quick boot instead ||/s||

[hoary zodiac]

coffee lake 😞

[mortal grail]

It's def slower than the bx500 tho

[frigid stag]

I have an i7 coffee lake

[mortal grail]

I put the bx500 with the i9 and it boots faster

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-shark-tank-writing-gif-7494974

[mortal grail]

It's just a based af install

[devout forum]

Open box Asrock B650E at that price vs the B650i

[frigid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

[mortal grail]

Like if I wandered pokemon

Found a shiny

[hoary zodiac]

What the hell is a Ft

[mortal grail]

That's bx500

Lmao

[frigid stag]

Very strange

[devout forum]

Our monopoly money

[frigid stag]

You got a good ssd

[mortal grail]

Just stupid stable, I validate hardware on it

[devout forum]

like actually barely worth more than the meme exchange rate of monopoly money to USD

[hoary zodiac]

Inflation wtf

[mortal grail]

The left one

[hoary zodiac]

Aren't you guys in the EU?

[devout forum]

so still b650i

[devout forum]

Yes, but not the eurozone

[hoary zodiac]

Nationalism?

[devout forum]

Nah just a dogcrap economy

[hoary zodiac]

Oh

💀

[mortal grail]

You have to sell me on 25% more for a better usb hub (mobo)

A620i for less? Get that it's the same pcb as b650i

Can be bios flashed to b650

[devout forum]

Non-existent

[mortal grail]

It's a black hole huh

[devout forum]

ITX AM5 is sparse as is

it's all B850 boards, very expensive X670Es or these two

technically there is a slightly cheaper Gigabyte

but that's so barebones it has like 5 USB ports total

[rancid juniper]

i have like 2 usb c ports and i don't know what to use em for

[rancid juniper]

actually nvm one is used for usb dock

lol

Packetdrone warfare

[frigid stag]

Drone wars

[devout forum]

WAIT

Only slightly sketchy seller

[mortal grail]

That price doe

[devout forum]

Overpriced

[sweet phoenix]

200 usd jesus

[devout forum]

for like 10k more you already have the B650 bios

And PCIE 5.0 support

[sweet phoenix]

Are you against a small matx build?

[devout forum]

how much bigger would it be?

cuz RN I'm intending to put it in the Ridge

Maximum space savings

[sweet phoenix]

Depends on the case you go for

[devout forum]

Like I'm not dismissing it out of hand

But I need maximum compact

[worn wave]

Sama im01 is about 25L iirc, and there's others sized similarly

[sweet phoenix]

Im planning a lian li a3 build

[worn wave]

You can get down to like 20L or maybe even smaller with a vertical gpu

[sweet phoenix]

You could do a meshroom v2

[devout forum]

See that's the funny part

Those small mATX cases?

[sweet phoenix]

Or jonsbo v9

[devout forum]

They are not sold here

[sweet phoenix]

Oof

[devout forum]

and basically NOBODY delivers to Hungary

[worn wave]

Ok ridge is pretty dang small lol

[devout forum]

so I can't even overpay to have it shipped from mfg

[sweet phoenix]

Very thin

[devout forum]

it's 12.6 liters

and still takes a 5090

so it's either overpriced ITX or... Well that's it, mATX cases are pain here

at least the small ones

[worn wave]

ZZAW C2 is allegedly 15L but it looks like its probably hard to get

https://www.reddit.com/r/mffpc/

[devout forum]

wait a sec

PCMR only allows full towers to be shown???

PC racism at it's finest

[worn wave]

Nah I don't think so, they're just implying that smaller cases might get more appreciation on mffpc

[sweet phoenix]

Anything with the words "master race" in it...

[velvet summit]

Some are 240v only, at least according to the specs sheets

[sweet phoenix]

I cant find the words to finish this sentence

[devout forum]

okay Aliexpress has the C2P

[honest birch]

You mean midtower?

Why would it only be full tower

[devout forum]

r/mffpcs embed lol
"For PCs that are too small for r/PCMR and the full tower subs"

[honest birch]

Jonsbo d32 is good and cheap

[sinful blade]

The most overtrusted PC Reddit/discord on the internet

[honest birch]

What about asus ap201

[devout forum]

C2P is possible, but Aliexpress is pretty sketch

[honest birch]

Just look at seller

[devout forum]

it's REALLY wide

that's exactly as wide as my current midtower

and the exact dimension I want to shrink the most

so like

[mortal grail]

That's thinner than most cases

[devout forum]

is it tho?

When it takes a 170mm tower cooler

[mortal grail]

Any dual chamber is wider

[devout forum]

I mean ye, but I'm not even considering dual chamber kek

[acoustic palm]

Is there smth special you gotta do to change storage devices from one computer to a new one

[honest birch]

Only if it's sn os drive

An*

[acoustic palm]

Uhhhh

[rough zinc]

Meshroom S best case

[acoustic palm]

How would you know that

[fresh timber]

@honest birch

Opinion on 6900xt

[fresh timber]

Std

[tranquil pebble]

Mushroom form factor phone

[acoustic palm]

@fresh timber chat gpt saved me

I had 1 hour to do like 3 hours of work

So I asked it to improve it

And it worked 🙂

[honest birch]

If you get xtxh it's good

[fresh timber]

They around $500 on eBay for Xt, I’ll check xtxh prices

[frigid stag]

Xtxh is just some models of xt

[fresh timber]

oh

20%

iehh not worth, its just a 7800xt lol

[sweet phoenix]

In raster it's a gre

[fresh timber]

mhhhh

[icy ore]

[sweet phoenix]

Here you go, a budget friendly laptop
https://computers.woot.com/offers/razer-blade-18-2024-gaming-laptop-2?ref=mwj_sh_cp_86_bs

[acoustic palm]

Weak

Get an m4, 96gb ram, 4tb storage Mac Pro

[sweet phoenix]

Apple 🤢

[acoustic palm]

Good ecosystem and good features, stupidly overpriced

[north crescent]

Nah, real budget laptops start at $5000. $3600 is like dumpster diving kinda cheap

[fresh timber]

lol

[fresh timber]

lmfao ima wait till i graduate before i pick a laptop lol

more money to play around with kek

$1500 seems like a sweat spot for laptops tbh

[honest birch]

Xtxh is 30%

[lone mango]

Meshroom d is smaller than nr200 in every dimension

Including width

[fresh timber]

So around 5070

[devout forum]

Can't get it

[median frigate]

Why is everything priced like the pandemic again

[devout forum]

at least not right now

[median frigate]

😑

[devout forum]

the one store that offers it is oos

Hmmmm

Meshroom D can take two 280mm rads?

Interesting...

[honest birch]

and 9070 yeah

[lone mango]

[devout forum]

I do wonder

[fresh timber]

ooo

[devout forum]

two 280mm rads can POSSIBLY cool a 5090 system?

[fresh timber]

yes

[lone mango]

probably yeah

[fresh timber]

you see how small the 5090 cooler is

lmfao

anything can cool it

[devout forum]

rofl

[lone mango]

well thats because they made an efficient cooler

[fresh timber]

small and efficent

[lone mango]

but the card still draws almost 600w

[fresh timber]

im about to downgrade my pc to 1tb

ill buy a 2tb later smh

[devout forum]

[fresh timber]

bye bye

[fresh timber]

jokes on you, close ad leads to another ad

[rough zinc]

It can but if it's anything like the meshroom S it's TIGHT

[devout forum]

This is their own promotional material lol

[rough zinc]

Oh it literally is a meshroom S but on it's side

[devout forum]

wait really?

[rough zinc]

I dont see a 2nd rad in there ngl

[devout forum]

Side rad behind the fans

[rough zinc]

Meshroom S

[devout forum]

this is the Meshroom D

but you say it's the same case in a different orientation lol

[rough zinc]

Just from the pictures it looks like it, no idea if jt actually is

[devout forum]

I might just go Meshroom S v2

it even takes an ATX mobo kek

[rough zinc]

No front radiator if ATX mobo though

And you need an SFF psu

[devout forum]

ye I'd go with ITX and just cram as much rad in as possible

[rough zinc]

...ask me how I know 😭

Thats what I did, running a 240 and 280 but you could fit a side 280

Have a HWL GTS280 on the front and an XSPC TX240 on the side

Both have Silverstone air slimmer fans on them

Also make sure you get an SFX and not an SFX-L psu because with SFX-L you won't be able tocmount the pump in its intended spot

[devout forum]

side 280 can be thicc right?

also thanks for the PSU tip, I'll remember that

[rough zinc]

Nah side 280 has to be slim

[devout forum]

oh?

so the front one is the thicc one?

[rough zinc]

Yeaj

[devout forum]

how tall the res can be?

[rough zinc]

Uhhh not sure on height, I went SFX-L psu and didn't want to return so I went the external pump/res route

I got this on the back of my case

[devout forum]

that is sick

Cooling caboose

[rough zinc]

Im running a 13900k and a 4090 and 0 issues with temps at all

[devout forum]

where is the GPU out?

[rough zinc]

On the bottom with 90 degree cables

[dense locust]

[rough zinc]

Take a look at the build guide, very helpful

https://ssupd.co/pages/downloads

[dense locust]

Maybe the YouTubers who red circle everything have a point

[rough zinc]

Cables come out kf that rectangular cutout you can see in my most recent pic

Or you can 3d print feet for the case and they'll come out the bottom of the case

[devout forum]

okay that is cool

sadly I don't think there is any 90 degree DP80 cables so far

[dense locust]

Is this where the gpu is?

[random osprey]

ye

angled cable goes there and comes out

[devout forum]

wait

WAIT

there is apparently an official mod for the Meshroom S allowing to use a 360 front rad

[dense locust]

Troubleshooting this pc sounds like hell

[rough zinc]

Yeah but it's ugly af

[devout forum]

This is canon

Crap

Here we go

[random osprey]

wtf

[random osprey]

got the extendo

[devout forum]

I'd probably 3d print a shroud to cover the feet

[dense locust]

Instead of going small I went big

[fresh timber]

I like chicken nuggets

[devout forum]

60mm total thickness too

so you can slap a 45mm thick 360 rad and full-size fans

that's really sick ngl

[rough zinc]

Me personally I think it's ugly even if all of it was covered up but that is an option

[devout forum]

I'm intending to stuff a 5090 into it I need all the help I can get lol

I don't mind things being tall

but I do mind the desk space

[dense locust]

buy the fe the board is tiny

[rough zinc]

How many watts does the 5090 use again?

[dense locust]

575

[mortal grail]

You vs the guy she tells you not to worry about:

[rough zinc]

Ahh so same as my 4090 rn

[mortal grail]

5090W

[devout forum]

the question is whether you can mount the 'stendo bracket to the V2

[rough zinc]

I keep forgetting to take off thr HOF vbios off of it lol

[mortal grail]

I'll take ur vbios off it

[rough zinc]

Nuh uh

[mortal grail]

You can trust me

Send it to 7 main st, mexico city, mexico

[rough zinc]

Hmmm that doesn't seem very upside down of tou

[dense locust]

is the 4090 still going for hell online?

[mortal grail]

Who said I was upside down

[rough zinc]

I know where you live

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah satan can't get enough

[mortal grail]

My hair is clean

Ass

My ass hair also clean

[rough zinc]

Prove it

[mortal grail]

Alr here we go

[dense locust]

2.4-2.7k

so basically 30% less than the 5090

what a steal

[mortal grail]

||it's my fingers||

[rough zinc]

Suuuure

[mortal grail]

That pic, started with me pointing to a hair

[rough zinc]

Uh huh

Riiiight

[mortal grail]

Then I realised the blur mechanic and the fake butt strat was born

Can't wait for someone to show up and have no understanding back-reading

[rough zinc]

Yuh

[devout forum]

question

[rough zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/fbi-fbiopenup-carlwhitman-gif-19586039

[devout forum]

is there a difference between crossflow and double-flow rads?

[mortal grail]

D-

Double?

[dense locust]

an other

[mortal grail]

What

An other

[dense locust]

https://tenor.com/view/water-watercooling-fail-blue-dye-blue-water-gif-19095835

[mortal grail]

Rip ek

Truly dead now

[devout forum]

Dual-flow

Cross flow

[mortal grail]

Port locations

[rough zinc]

Marginal at best

[devout forum]

oh JTC made a vid on it lol

[rough zinc]

JTC

[mortal grail]

Be wary picking if you have marginal clearance

Ports both sides will interfere with "360mm supported" cases

Not all but some

X-flow i believe is similar to normal

What really matters is the fpi

[rough zinc]

For your side rad id do a 25mm normal radiator and slim fans just so there is some breathing space between the rad and gpu,

[real bone]

Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent-good pre-built gaming desktop, preferably has 2 tb ssd but 1 would be fine. Budget of 1k-1.2k? Sorry if this is the wrong chat

[devout forum]

X-flow is 10fpi
Double-flow is 16fpi

[mortal grail]

Double will be better then

[devout forum]

Great input

[mortal grail]

But will struggle fitting to meshilicious

Meshroom

Mushroom

[devout forum]

External bracket

[rough zinc]

X-flow will be more of a struggle ngl

[mortal grail]

#building-and-recc-chat

[mortal grail]

Length

[real bone]

Okay thank you, sorry again

[devout forum]

ironically the X-flow is longer

so double flow it is I guess

[mortal grail]

You're ok lol

[rough zinc]

He's doing the meshroom external 360rad bracket, length ain't an issue really

[mortal grail]

I mean

[devout forum]

at least that is the plan

[rough zinc]

Yeah usually how it is

[mortal grail]

Sure but also

Do you really want a long ass rad for a submarine snorkel?

Lmao

[rough zinc]

True

[devout forum]

even with a true single-slot blocked card?

[rough zinc]

You gotta think bigger @devout forum

480mm rad on the front

[devout forum]

I'm digging the submarine look

[rough zinc]

My first gpu block was 31mm and there wasn't even a millimeter kf spacing between it and the rad with 25.4mm fans

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/u-boat-submarine-sousmarin-périscope-gif-7551237158209590049

Radiator like

Like a honda showing up to a drag meet with pistons out the hood

[devout forum]

no like TRUE 20mm single-slot

[mortal grail]

No one wants to look

[devout forum]

total of 75mm for the side rad, fans and GPU sounds tight

[rough zinc]

If it's true 20mm single slot then you should be fine with slim rad and full thickness fans

[devout forum]

It is

[mortal grail]

Blackhole in 3 months with a 720mm rad on a meshroom:

[devout forum]

I wish it was 3 months lmfaoooo

I'm just sizing up options before taking out a mortgage on the family home

but how slim rad?

30mm?

[rough zinc]

I just said we ball and bought the case

[devout forum]

or 20

[rough zinc]

20

[devout forum]

aite

[rough zinc]

Im cooling a 666w 4090 and 373w of 13900k on a 280 and 240 with 0 issues

[devout forum]

is that 10mm really that impactful?

[rough zinc]

Yeah the extra 10mm make it so there's no breathing space

[devout forum]

wait those both come out to 76mm total

[rough zinc]

@mortal grail can attest to this

[devout forum]

That doesn't make sense

[rough zinc]

Im currently running 15mm fans with a 20mm rad

20mm rad, 25mm fans and 20mm gpu comes out to 65mm

[devout forum]

I question how you can have space with the thin rad and 31mm card but not the 30mm rad and single slot card

in the manual

[devout forum]

dis

[rough zinc]

Well you do have space for a 30mm rad but it will be right up against the gpu

Like in theory it will work, but I'd prefer to have somewhere for the air to flow through rather than stuck on the gpu

[devout forum]

ah

Alright yes that is sensible

[mortal grail]

@rough zinc should I

[rough zinc]

Dew it

[devout forum]

45mm thick 360 and 20mm thick 280 with all 25mm fans

There ain't no hardware that can't cool right?

[mortal grail]

I'm already dewing it I have a glass of the green fizz

But do I do it

[rough zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-gif-26049397

[mortal grail]

Hope it don't cost a fortune

[rough zinc]

Lol me buying my meshroom

Nah i can fit my PC into it for not too much

[rough zinc]

...end up basically building a new loop

And new mobo and PSU

[mortal grail]

Oh true I'd need a new pump

Nvm

Lost interest

[rough zinc]

Why new pump?

[mortal grail]

Not enough flow rate for 2 jet plates

[rough zinc]

What pump do you have now?

[mortal grail]

What's planned for the north is a lone dc lt 2

Not enough

[rough zinc]

Ahh DC LT

Basically AIO

[mortal grail]

Ya

They're good honestly

But yeah crap flow rate

[rough zinc]

DDCs ain't too expensive these days iirc

[devout forum]

hold on

[mortal grail]

Yes but fittings, tubing, sleeving

Pass

[rough zinc]

Fair enough

[rough zinc]

aliexpress

[devout forum]

If a PSU gets Cybenetics Platinum

Should we consider it good?

[mortal grail]

Aliexpress gonna ship me a dude to do it for me?

[rough zinc]

As far as I know, your best option is the corsair SF1000 (2024)

[slate fractal]

just scouring FB marketplace and found this post for $30, not anything special is it

[mortal grail]

Yes if it's not the noise test

[devout forum]

cuz this exists
True SFX 1000w https://ipon.hu/shop/termek/sharkoon-rebel-p20-sfx-1000w-cybenetics-platinum-fekete/2352061

[sweet phoenix]

@silk sonnet
https://computers.woot.com/offers/skytech-shadow-gaming-pc-i5-12400-rtx-3060ti-1

[mortal grail]

Looks like a rebadged v sfx

[rough zinc]

I've never seen that in my life

[devout forum]

V SFX is SFX-L tho

[mortal grail]

Cybenetics platinum is a good result tho

That's like A tier

[mortal grail]

Oh efficiency

Meh

Efficiency and noise don't count

[devout forum]

I'm looking at it

[mortal grail]

Me too I'm staring

[rough zinc]

Id honestly bite the bullet and get the corsair one because it's reputable

[mortal grail]

Soon I will lock eyes

I ran out of dew it

[rough zinc]

Nah, the fencer postal service will

[devout forum]

Can an 850 Corsair run a 5090 stock?

[rough zinc]

SF1000

[nocturne flicker]

The word cybenetics annoys me

[worthy meteor]

cybenetics is just 80+ with an extra step or two

[mortal grail]

Yeah safety

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

Cybernetic explosive

[fresh nova]

Anyone play League that wants to join us for drafts? We have 2 spots left.

[mortal grail]

Wow they actually disclose the model that's based af

[fresh nova]

Just DM me if you'd like to join.

[wicked oriole]

One of my buddies wants a cheap pc to play with his son. Found a decent one for like 600 with a 5600x3d and 6650xt, should be good to play games like rust, fortnite, cod at 1080p??

[mortal grail]

Ye

[devout forum]

It actually looks pretty good ngl

[hoary zodiac]

That's not bad for $600 tbh

Considering that there's a whole X3D in there

[lone mango]

Its cybenetics gold efficiency

[devout forum]

The Sharkoon is platinum

[mortal grail]

Is it platinum or gold

[lone mango]

Oh yeah it is

[hoary zodiac]

I'm stuck writing a scoping study

[lone mango]

Ok so lower models are gold

[devout forum]

the only reason I'm slightly averse is that it's not yet known

[hoary zodiac]

One last assessment before holidays...

[lone mango]

1000 and 1200 are plat

[rough zinc]

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/p/psu/cp-9020257-na/sf-series-sf1000-fully-modular-80-plus-platinum-sfx-power-supply-cp-9020257-na?srsltid=AfmBOorzzcVhDqCOAwzTUNSC0nU6ORzu2NGrZ2MiLIrN5gZpt7BmEU2n#

[wicked oriole]

I figured, I just wanted to check. And yeah I think it's actually priced fairly well as well considering the x3d lol

[lone mango]

True

[hoary zodiac]

Honestly I'd take a non X3D and newer R7 in normal circumstances... But since it's $600

It's a steal

[lone mango]

Half the price of the sharkoon for me

[devout forum]

SPL proper ratings is B-

[wicked oriole]

640 pre tax

[dense locust]

85 990 Ft
thats one long psu

[hoary zodiac]

That's still not bad tbh

[devout forum]

Kindly go choke on a USB cable

[hoary zodiac]

And that's before I factor in how screwed the current market is

[devout forum]

That joke was not funny the first time

[devout forum]

Or the 3452492345219342852935 times afterwards

Just stop it

[lone mango]

[rough zinc]

Oh are you in Hungary?

[hoary zodiac]

Choke on deez nuts

[dense locust]

not my fault your currency has a bad abbreviation

[lone mango]

Blocked

[wicked oriole]

They have a 5600x and rx 6600 for 560

[hoary zodiac]

Oh wait I missed the context

💀

I saw "choke" and went for the DN bomb

[devout forum]

oh okay, the only reason it is a B- is the 2 years warrantyy

cuz it seems to have the performance to be an A-tier PSU

but the short warranty cripples the rating

[rough zinc]

@mortal grail ...is it bad im craving to build yet another loop

[hoary zodiac]

kinda sus

[rough zinc]

Thinking gold fittings with satin black PMMA tubing

Just need an AM4 waterblock

[wicked oriole]

Also a 5600x and 6600xt and then a ryzen 9 3900x and 2070 super

[mortal grail]

Ur stuck in a loop bro

[devout forum]

okay yeah it's minor things that bump it down

[wicked oriole]

So idk which one would be best

[rough zinc]

I am the loop

[hoary zodiac]

Just use a M&Ms tube

[devout forum]

still

[mortal grail]

That rebel P20 is corsair TX tier btw

Super good

[devout forum]

Oh?

[mortal grail]

Would run 5090 with

[devout forum]

Aite bet

[mortal grail]

But low power cpu

[lone mango]

Bro 1200w sfx is ridiculous

[hoary zodiac]

How much does it cost is the question

[lone mango]

Wait what

[mortal grail]

850w + 5090 + loop with pump you NEED a low power cpu

[lone mango]

I think 1200 is atx actually

I know 1000w is sfx though

[dense locust]

1000w is minimum psu for a 5090

[lone mango]

Ebay shows 350 and 400

[hoary zodiac]

Does anyone know how to write a scoping report

[lone mango]

For 1000

[hoary zodiac]

Is it literally just yap

[lone mango]

Nah

[dense locust]

get the 1600w msi psu for $400

[lone mango]

Idk what it is

[rough zinc]

Pretty much

[hoary zodiac]

Oh ok lol

This is my last assessment before break

I've crunched out two assessments in the past two days

I'm on overdrive

[rough zinc]

Youre pretty much just talking about your research right?

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

[mortal grail]

Step 1: Intro
Step 2: take the shot
Step 3: conclusion

[hoary zodiac]

And stakeholders

[rough zinc]

Yeah YAP YAP YAP

[hoary zodiac]

360 noscope?

[rough zinc]

Chatgpt is also great if you need to fluff up sections

[hoary zodiac]

Nah I usually go over

[mortal grail]

INCOMING

DUCK

[lavish stag]

anyone have any keyboard servers i can join?

[rough zinc]

Even better

[hoary zodiac]

I talk like a 19th century imperialist

[lavish stag]

know*

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-ducks-confused-surprised-what-gif-1845535727828628932

[rough zinc]

Nuh uh

[hoary zodiac]

So my reports are naturally fluffed

[wicked oriole]

Actually I think the 5600x and 6600 rx would be slightly better right? $80 less

[mortal grail]

X3d better for 80 more

[fresh timber]

14900ks

[mortal grail]

Good night sweet goofball

[wicked oriole]

Dope I'll send him after that one then thanks guys

[rough zinc]

...oh hello

[dense locust]

i was gunna send a put keyboard in a discord invite as a joke but thats a real discord invite link

[rough zinc]

I may or may not have just tripped my PSU

[lone mango]

Ok so all sfx is platinum

[devout forum]

not 9800X3D kek

[mortal grail]

This is why ur not techie

[devout forum]

on a 1000w true SFX

[hoary zodiac]

Techieez nuts

[rough zinc]

Nah, I troll too much

[hoary zodiac]

(this is how I get demoted)

[rough zinc]

EVC go BRRRRR

[lone mango]

Crazy

[hoary zodiac]

I'm trolling in #general-chat half the time

[worthy meteor]

cybenetics doing stuff like load regulation and ripple and noise is cool but still no protection testing :p

[mortal grail]

Well proper ddc or d5 wants a dedicated 85W plug

[fresh timber]

rate my new nvme

[mortal grail]

It's better cos the goofball who heads it up does test safety lol

Aris reviews

[worthy meteor]

true

aris is cool

[dense locust]

"have you ever reballed a gpu?"
"no? fake techie"

[worthy meteor]

but the reviews themselves don't actually test protections iirc

[rough zinc]

The other half im too drunk to actually give soumd advice

[mortal grail]

Chillenetics

[hoary zodiac]

💀

[fresh timber]

im gaming off a drive not installed in my pc

[nocturne flicker]

Chilenetics

[hoary zodiac]

Been missing tech support surprisingly

Uni's got me busy as hell

[mortal grail]

Full/10

[fresh timber]

loil

[rough zinc]

Reballing GPUs fun

[dense locust]

loil

[nocturne flicker]

loil

[mortal grail]

loil

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/rtx-5090-jensen-huang-oven-gif-8136587731387362568

[wicked oriole]

Oh hey I do have a question about my pc lol if I wanted to slap a new processor what else would I have to do how would I delete old cpu driver?

My bios is up to date

[worthy meteor]

no cpu drivers

[hoary zodiac]

You don't

[rough zinc]

No drivers for cpu

[worthy meteor]

update chipset drivers if you need to

[dense locust]

doesnt amd have chipset drivers?

[hoary zodiac]

It's only bios revisions you have to worry about

[hoary zodiac]

That doesn't affect the cpu

[dense locust]

[hoary zodiac]

Or rather a cpu change won't affect it

[wicked oriole]

I just did bios update last night, either way I know it's atleast up to date to put in the cpu

[rough zinc]

Youre chilling

[wicked oriole]

I just wanted to know if there's anything else funky I have to do

[rough zinc]

Assuming the mobo supports the cpu

[hoary zodiac]

You have to polish the pins

[rough zinc]

Hey that's my job

[lone mango]

Yeah

[wicked oriole]

It does lol

[dense locust]

shouldnt they update bios before installing the new cpu

[lone mango]

Theres a specific type of polish you have to get or else it wont work

[hoary zodiac]

Thermal polish

[rough zinc]

...bruh they already updated the bios

[rough zinc]

Nah, Polish polish

[hoary zodiac]

Vodka?

[dense locust]

ok i didnt see

[rough zinc]

Exactly

Speaking of vodka

[wicked oriole]

What do you mean polish the pins on mobo? It's am5 i thought they were like reversed?

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/polish-power-polish-car-poland-car-strong-polish-car-gif-23408432

[rough zinc]

I be thirsty

[lone mango]

Hahaha nah we just being rarted

[dense locust]

update am4 motherboard using ryzen 1000 cpu to brick the motherboard

[hoary zodiac]

We're trolling

[wicked oriole]

I was gonna say polishing pins sounds scary, my da would get the most important ground and power pins to touch 💀

[hoary zodiac]

Touch pins??? 😳

[worthy meteor]

do make sure there's no debris in the socket or on the CPU before installation though lol

[lone mango]

Speaking of this how did asrock clean the socket in that picture

[wicked oriole]

So as long as bios is good the chipset driver would just I'm assuming install through Radeon then over write old cpu driver?

[hoary zodiac]

I've seen enough X3Ds blow up

[hoary zodiac]

There are no cpu drivers

[rough zinc]

I can touch your pins?

[wicked oriole]

And how to take old thermal paste off of prior cpu to give to my little brother just wipe a Lil acetone on it?

[rough zinc]

Yooooo

[worthy meteor]

There is no CPU driver, chipset driver is something further down that has to do with communicating with mobo devices

[hoary zodiac]

Nah my cpu is soldered

[worthy meteor]

high % isopropyl alcohol

[rough zinc]

Do not use acetone, only isopropyl alcohol

[wicked oriole]

Ope okay, i think that's what I'm referring too

[rough zinc]

99% ideally

[lone mango]

I have 70%

[rough zinc]

[wicked oriole]

Okay got it thank you guys, acetone is regarded of me cause plastic right? Lmao

[rough zinc]

Yeah, PCB can get damaged

[worthy meteor]

idealy 90%+, 70%+ generally works, anything around 50% or below usually has too much random stuff that gets left behind when the isopropyl alcohol itself evaporates

[dense locust]

"how do i install my case drivers?"

[wicked oriole]

Stop 😭

[hoary zodiac]

Piledriver

Nice cores you got there

Shame they're not real

[dense locust]

honestly given that a gpu needs drivers its kinda warrented that someone would think a cpu would need one too

[rough zinc]

Actually though, make sure you install your power drivers

Otherwise your PSU won't know where to send power to

[lone mango]

Did asrock just douse the socket with 99% when they got that guys board

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

You should install the drivers for your drivers

[dense locust]

what asrock boards are failing

[rough zinc]

The failing ones

[dense locust]

i mean what asrock boards are "dirty" but work when "cleaned"

[lone mango]

Can I install my driver for your piledriver

[dense locust]

gotta make sure to clean my asrock board when it arrives

[hoary zodiac]

Install driver update

Half the cores disappear

[rough zinc]

Imma install your driver

[dense locust]

how do install my driver drivers

[hoary zodiac]

And you get the real cpu

[lone mango]

My ass is NOT touching those pins man 🙏

[rough zinc]

Don't forget to oil your fans

Fan oil is an important part of your pc maintenance

[hoary zodiac]

Remember to overclock your power supply

[dense locust]

gotta make sure i firmly push in my cpu into the socket

[lone mango]

I dont understand how asrock cleaned that socket

[dense locust]

https://tenor.com/view/motherboard-washing-cleaning-clean-bath-gif-8931586158173933651

[worthy meteor]

some ASRock x870 boards with 9800x3d have failed, ASRock officially has put it up to either debris or bios misconfiguration, there has been a bios update since that reportedly fixes the bios end

[lone mango]

But they still happen after the update

Very strange

[dense locust]

i'll update the bios when the board arrives

or do i not update

[worthy meteor]

update to latest non-beta whenever it includes something you care about

[lone mango]

Or maybe the bios update fixed it but they had debris in there and it still went bad anyway

No clue really

[fresh timber]

im ngl

i never install chipset drivers

[lone mango]

I installed them once and that was it

[lone mango]

Is you going x3d or nah

[lone mango]

[worthy meteor]

I mean AMD usually just bundles in chipset drivers when you install adrenaline and get drivers there afaik lol

[lone mango]

Yeah

[worthy meteor]

chipset drivers usually not needed and won't make a big impact until there's bugs

[lone mango]

Shows multiple options on the installer

[dense locust]

imagine install the cpu and its doa

i just jinxed myself didnt i

[lone mango]

Never used flashback before. Can you update it without the cpu in or does a cpu have to be in even if unsupported for example

[worthy meteor]

don't need a CPU in

[lone mango]

So you just plug in the drive and press the button

[dense locust]

install usb press button wait for light

[worthy meteor]

all you need is the motherboard, power plugged in, and the usb drive

check manual for details

may need to rename file, may have a specific USB port you need to use

[lone mango]

Yeah probably differs per board

[dense locust]

my am4 motherboard doesnt have flashback

so without an older cpu to update it you're pretty much sol

[worthy meteor]

MSI was the only company that liked to put flashback on everything on am4

[lone mango]

My old one didn’t either until I got this asrock b550

[worthy meteor]

and Gigabyte by b550

[dense locust]

my motherboard is msi

[lone mango]

But I never needed to update this b550 so I never used the feature

[worthy meteor]

what board? most MSI b450/b550/x470/x570 boards got flashback

[dense locust]

oh nvm

it has it

[worthy meteor]

not sure about a320 and a520 though

[dense locust]

its on the corner

[worthy meteor]

lol

[dense locust]

my god

[worthy meteor]

sometimes it's not on the back, like gigabyte put them on the board itself next to the front panel io headers sometimes

can't reach it without opening the case lol

[lone mango]

Bro what

The hell is that design choice

[dense locust]

My god I need to clean back here

its also bios flashback + whatever that is

[lone mango]

Sand ports

[devout forum]

IIRC that's like an automatic flashback

if the mobo detects a BIOS only USB stick

it MIGHT just update itself

[worthy meteor]

I think it's just naming scheme things lol

Think MSI just calls it flashback+ like how Gigabyte calls it Q-Flash Plus

[fresh nova]

If anyone wants in on the League games let me know.

Space for 2.

[fresh timber]

Sorry, I’m in the shower

[young pulsar]

Bros upgrading to a 6900XT

[fresh timber]

Considering

[young pulsar]

What is your gpu budget

[fresh timber]

Idk

Cheap as possible while being decent upgrade, all considering

[young pulsar]

Get a 9070

https://www.bitworks.io/product/sapphire-pulse-amd-radeon-rx-9070-gaming-graphics-card-with-16gb-gddr6?srsltid=AfmBOoqLh-0gXtejmLFpOtYn-IOMC-uXUmNcB23JRmGWO2CvXNqJtrJxVIc&gQT=2

[fresh timber]

Gg, have fun with the stock

I’ll consider those when stock is plentiful

[dense locust]

oh yeah i love paying +$150 more

[young pulsar]

Bitworks has them

[tidal gazelle]

I've been playing Switch lately and my arms are a little sore, any product recommendations?

[velvet summit]

Brain control chip

[fresh timber]

Lmfaooo no thanks

[dense locust]

I mean it would be msrp

If it was an xt

Wait that’s 699

So even if it was an xt it would be $100 more

[fresh timber]

Worth frfr