general-chat

[nocturne flicker]

My father was a geography major with a focus on cartography

[wise wigeon]

wow

[frigid stag]

true. electrician came in for like 2 to 3 hour job and it was like 200 bucks

[nocturne flicker]

They got rid of cartography the year after he graduated

[limber crane]

I'm not too familiar with those, I don't know anything about medical professions. I don't think there's a single field I could get into that's a medical field.

[limber crane]

I had a well technician service my well, 2 hours of work was $800

[pliant berry]

most of the internships here usually pay a bit above minimum wage

[wise wigeon]

post school training programs basically

[frigid stag]

damnn

[limber crane]

car mechanics make bank too, no one wants to do these kinds of jobs anymore

[frigid stag]

ye every mechanic ive talked to had told me “you dont want to be a mechanic but it does pay well”

[wise wigeon]

for doctors residency is required and for professions like pharmacists, or dentist its not required but for specialization

[frigid stag]

What is residency

ive heard that term

[wise wigeon]

basically a paid internship

[sinful blade]

Why do a job that pays like garbage

https://tenor.com/view/your-guess-is-as-good-as-mine-i-dont-know-i-have-no-clue-clueless-no-idea-gif-23793773

[limber crane]

that's the thing, most them dont pay garbage anymore

[frigid stag]

bad decisions i guess with bad advice

[sinful blade]

Maybe around you

[frigid stag]

but mechanic really does pay well

[sinful blade]

Most mechanics here around me(at dealerships) get paid $12-18 an hour

That’s garbage for the work being done

[frigid stag]

i think he means if you open your own shop

[limber crane]

location does play a big factor, but thats for all fields

[misty sparrow]

If they talk rudely to you, you can sabotage their car and they won’t even know

[sinful blade]

I can do that as a cashier

https://tenor.com/view/dont-duck-with-me-gif-12269941050789992714

[misty sparrow]

But their car is more costly

[nocturne flicker]

I do that as a fuel clerk

You annoy me enough I'll quietly shut off your pump for a second or two when you aren't looking so you have to reengage the nozzle

[limber crane]

I just dont work with people lmao

the people i deal with are my coworkers so they cant cross the line without risking repercussions

and they come to us to solve their problems so theyre incentivized to not be a dingus

[misty sparrow]

Quick irrelevant question, if my SSD that I’m putting in my PS5 is rated at 6000MB/s read speed (and crystaldiskmark shows this) then what would be causing the PS5 to list its speed as something far lower? It’s showing 2300MB/s

[dusk knot]

Hhhhhmmmmm

[frigid stag]

did the 5080 arrive

[limber crane]

What gen is the SSD?

[frigid stag]

gen 4 for it to be 6000

[dusk knot]

Talking to me?

[frigid stag]

ye ye

[dusk knot]

Yeah

[frigid stag]

nicee

thats sick

[dusk knot]

It's "only" 1000 points away from a stock 4090 with OC

[frigid stag]

👑 peak

[limber crane]

Could be firmware, could be a type of SSD that doesn't fully saturate PCIe 4. If the SSD runs hot it could be getting throttled. Some SSDs rely on dynamic SLC caching, meaning it could be lower in Sony's read test vs peak numbers in CDM

[dusk knot]

Still might sell it for a 5080ti....but that's just going to be more Vram since the 5080 supposedly already uses the full die.....

I don't know

[misty sparrow]

Gen 4 as per the requirements

You think it could be the lack of a heatsink?

[idle nexus]

no tbh

who's that? lol

[limber crane]

https://www.reddit.com/r/playstation/comments/14r0mil/do_i_need_a_heatsink_for_an_ssd_for_my_ps5/

general consensus is yes

[wraith fern]

My ssd is meant for ps5 and came with a girthy heatsink

[worthy meteor]

What exactly is Sony's read test? Basically everything modern uses pSLC cache and generally won't be saturated by a short read or write test

[misty sparrow]

I mean, what if I install a heatsink and the speeds don’t show improvement

I don’t know what read tests they do on PS5 but for some reason they differ from my crystaldiskmark tests

[limber crane]

test the SSD on a PC if possible to check speeds, try reinstalling and reformatting the drive. Otherwise its firmware or the lack of heatsink

[worthy meteor]

Does it take seconds or minutes to complete

[sinful blade]

Another L for Sony

[limber crane]

Can you send me the model of the SSD please

[misty sparrow]

Seconds

[misty sparrow]

Micron 3400 I think

[worthy meteor]

Can't be running out of pslc then

[limber crane]

https://www.amazon.com/Micron-MTFDKBA1T0TFH-Desktop-Ultrabook-Console/dp/B0B19Z8J85

this?

[dusk knot]

I would guess because of virtually no air circulation

[idle nexus]

usually when RTLs are more than 1 off, memory OC is not gonna be stable. 69/70 64/65 is like close ig

[limber crane]

yeah its trapped in a hotbox basically

[misty sparrow]

Yep, I took it out of the Lenovo prebuilt I got

I’m swapping SSDs

[worthy meteor]

Oh a fun oem drive

[idle nexus]

also Asrock Timing Config is kinda crap for DDR5

[limber crane]

"The Micron 3400 1TB is a PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD, but it's not really optimized for gaming—it’s more of an OEM/workstation drive. That could be why your PS5 is showing a much lower speed than expected (2300MB/s instead of 6000MB/s)."

[worthy meteor]

Should get a heatsink on it if you can, it's a relatively hot drive

[worthy meteor]

Shouldn't matter, this is just a speed test

[limber crane]

its gotta be firmware or heatsink

[misty sparrow]

Especially considering crystaldiskmark reaches those speeds

on PC

[limber crane]

All I can find is what I've provided and "The PS5 doesn’t just check maximum sequential speeds (like CrystalDiskMark does). Instead, it runs its own real-world test, which often results in lower numbers for SSDs that aren’t fully optimized for console gaming."

[worthy meteor]

Likely it's just a slightly longer test per run

3400 is standard e18 b47r iirc

[idle nexus]

lol MemTweakIt on AMD

[limber crane]

but pretty much universally people online say you need a heatsink

[idle nexus]

borrrrrrked

I'm surprised it didn't crash

[limber crane]

heatsinks cant be that expensive, seems like an easy thing to try

[idle nexus]

if you run ZenTimings on Intel, you're gonna have a bad time

[misty sparrow]

Yeah I did find a $6 one so

[idle nexus]

Sabrent has one designed for PS5 but I have no clue if it's any better than any other one ngl https://www.amazon.com/SABRENT-Heatsink-PS5-Console-SB-PSHS/dp/B09HSQQWCL?

[misty sparrow]

Essentially two 20oz sodas

[limber crane]

May I ask what this test is showing/highlighting? And what its purpose is? I am trying to learn more about memory stuff.

[worthy meteor]

It's a (attempted) readout of the memory timings

[idle nexus]

lol honestly, it's showing almost nothing because that program isn't designed to read AMD memory timings (only Intel)

[limber crane]

sucks you may have to wait till it arrives, but better than having to get a new drive or bricking the drive

[misty sparrow]

It probably won’t be that long

[worthy meteor]

I did try zentimings on Intel, it just didn't show anything lol

[limber crane]

ahh ok. I am going to try doing a test like this with my new build, but will be AMD/Expo

[idle nexus]

it crashed the PC for me on 12900K/Z690 Dark lol

[worthy meteor]

Did nothing on 13600k/z790i edge

I ended up using dragon ball lol

ASRock timing also didn't show anything for some reason

[idle nexus]

this is probably best way to read timings on AMD https://www.techpowerup.com/download/amd-ryzen-zen-timings/

[limber crane]

Speaking of which, I have MSI Aida64-extreme, CoreTemp, CPUZ, HWMonitor and MSI Center/afterburner. Any other software I should get for performance/timing type stuff? I will add ZenTimings now as well

[idle nexus]

Asrock timings don't do too well on DDR5 afik

[worthy meteor]

Hwinfo64 does 90% of all of those combined

And I wouldn't use MSI center, or any other similar Mobo software

[idle nexus]

heck I actually don't have MSI Dragon Ball or Dragon Power for AMD iirc

[limber crane]

Ok, I have Hwinfo64 added to my install drive, what should I get rid of?

[worthy meteor]

Shouldn't need coretemp or hwmonitor

I wouldn't use MSI center either

Afterburner, Aida64, and CPUz are good

[limber crane]

what exactly is Aida used for?

[idle nexus]

it gives you a lot of system information

also has benchmarks

& stress tests

I think it's most used feature is measuring memory latency

[worthy meteor]

Yea hwinfo64 gives the same amount of system information, but Aida64 is useful for the benchmarks and some stress tests

[idle nexus]

what's latest Dragon Ball/Dragon Power versions you have?

[limber crane]

ok cool, i believe someone here suggested 'OpenRGB' for RGB management, I will try that out as well with MSI Center being a no go

[worthy meteor]

Not at my PC right now so I'm not sure

[worthy meteor]

Yea I'd recommend doing that for RGB

MSI mystic light or whatever they call it now is really buggy

[idle nexus]

really all dragon center does for you is make it easy to install chipset & other drivers

[limber crane]

so much of this info in HWinfo I dont even know what it means 😄

[idle nexus]

but if you go to your motherboard's website, you can download them manually there

[limber crane]

I have all the drivers and stuff downloaded from the mobo page for day 1 installs

[idle nexus]

& for chipset drivers, use AMD's website cuz it'll have latest

[limber crane]

Might be a silly question but does GPU core clock only raise during heavy use?

[worthy meteor]

It's more like it'll drop when idle

[limber crane]

ok so its normal to show 200mhz

[worthy meteor]

While idling yea

[limber crane]

What are these temps?

[idle nexus]

individual memory chips & power stages I think

like multiple sensor read-outs across the whole GPU

[limber crane]

i havent looked at these stats in ages, i want to get more awareness of them for the new build

think the last time i looked was when i was using my card to mine when not gaming

[idle nexus]

ah those were the days

[limber crane]

yeah

I went pretty hard

Was still making pennies compared to people who had major setups, but it was a wild year

[misty sparrow]

Why does the setup look like a closet of clothes

[limber crane]

i remember being in the crypto mining discords and people would post pics of their estimated per hour earnings and people were doing like severeal hundred thousand per hour, while running off solar and just printing money essentially

[limber crane]

cheap, free airflow and cooling. it was also in my basement which is unframed and uninsulated, so it was cold like a server room

the goal was to spend as little as possible to get as many cards running as possible

[misty sparrow]

Cool

[limber crane]

but I only did it for like ~8 months then ETH stopped being mineable and I sold the cards and parts at cost

I basically broke even, and now I am sitting on what I mined hoping it actually becomes valuable again one day (mega cope)

was quite a learning experience, also the last time i really used linux of any form

[nocturne flicker]

Don't worry, the gov't is going to waste a couple hundred million on a crypto reserve designed solely to pump up the value so that all the people in the admin can buy leveraged longs and make money using illegal info

[frigid stag]

i shouldve mined it at the time

[limber crane]

its a great talking point for job interviews as well

[frigid stag]

wouldve paid off a whole gpu

[fresh timber]

Huh

Rip WiFi

[frigid stag]

my friend paid off his

[limber crane]

yeah i bought 10 3X cards I think, mined with them and then sold them for the same price i paid

my 3080 in my gaming machine i used at like 50-60% power to mine while not gaming or working on stuff

realistically i joined too late

the 3X launch blew up mining and made it too widespread, the profit/hr tanked hard within 3 months of 3X launching

the guys who were mining ETH from day 1 made out like bandits

obviously same story as bitcoin but ETH never required asics to mine

[sweet phoenix]

I made abt 1200 from my 3060 ti mining eth

[fresh timber]

Ooo

[sweet phoenix]

Issue was i overpaid for a lot of mediocre parts when I rebuilt the $1200 pre built it came in

[fresh timber]

I used to mine on a 1660super, made $1 a day

[sweet phoenix]

So it mostly just paid for itself

[frigid stag]

how long

[limber crane]

i shouldve sold my ETH when it was worth like $5k/coin, but those days are long gone

[sweet phoenix]

Year and a half ish?

[frigid stag]

thats not bad basically a free pc

[storm umbra]

what do yall think of my wifi that i use https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B3SQK74L?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1

[limber crane]

next youll be asking for underwear advice

[storm umbra]

was just abt to acutally

i already own this

im just wondering what is everyones opinion

[limber crane]

at least its not a netgear

thats about all i got

moving to a tp-link solved a lot of my issues

[storm umbra]

tp-link just knows gaming tbh

[limber crane]

but mine is a spaceship

[storm umbra]

they are good at what they do

OOH

i was gonna get that one but it was too overkill for me

the one i use is a pretty popular model for the price

at least it wasnt this

wtf even is this

halo ahh router

[storm umbra]

dude their is a person in another server with the same pfp as u

his ign is madden_64889 on discord lol i thought it was u for a hot second

[limber crane]

its just a stock google image

[sinful blade]

Imagine using a stock google image

Couldn’t be me

[frigid stag]

Looks dope

[wise wigeon]

when it doesnt meet sony's standards it gets pissy

[worthy meteor]

I'm talking about cdm versus Sony test

[limber crane]

i dont care how it looks lmao, its in my basement as is never seen

[storm umbra]

mine sits above my quest 3 dock on a shelf

[honest birch]

Look him up. He has a discord too.

[honest birch]

That's not the only issue

[idle nexus]

tRAS 59? the heck? lol

[honest birch]

He can't tune

He thinks he can

I've had like 5 peoples pcs I've had to fix

That paid for his tune

[idle nexus]

& he charges $500?

[frigid stag]

He wrapped his pc in copper too

[idle nexus]

how do you claim XOC but this is your hwbot profile? https://hwbot.org/users/jerryxoc

either that or he's not even on hwbot

dunno how you can be known for OCing without being on hwbot but maybe I have a misconception or something

[frigid stag]

I don’t think he’s on hwbot

[frigid stag]

He’s more of a max fps kinda guy

Gaming performance> hwbot points

[limber crane]

Anyone have opinions on cablemod vs moddiy cables?

[honest birch]

And he sucks at it

Framechasers (Jufes) is better at it than him

And even he is clowned on

[frigid stag]

Idk I’ve never got tweaks from anyone I just watched videos and read some guides and learned some stuff

[lone mango]

Open panel gaming

[frigid stag]

Most of the things people make fun of framechasers for is his attitude though imo

Some people don’t like the bro talk vibe

Since he’s never shared his overclocks so can’t really criticize that

[idle nexus]

that's not what XOC is at all lol

[idle nexus]

I can't stand those clowns. They're almost as bad as JayzTwoCents

this poor HD7970

GPU core should be getting at least 1.4v rn lol

Framechasers always seem to be on a crusade against AMD

which is almost as bad as JayzTwoCents explaining how you don't need fast DDR5 cuz it doesn't help his Port Royal or Cinebench scores

[frigid stag]

Yea I’m not sure, I think it just means max oc/ max fps how he’s using it 🤔

[idle nexus]

XOC is extreme overclocking

i.e., dry ice, LN2, or LHe

[frigid stag]

I guess Jerry oc doesn’t sound as cool

[idle nexus]

sometimes I want to start streaming when I see how easy it is to get people to believe nonsense lol

[sinful blade]

Xqc, asmongold, and Joe Rogan exist so it can’t be that hard

[idle nexus]

I think I found my new benchmarking desktop wallpaper

[acoustic palm]

nice

i needa get wallpaper engine

[idle nexus]

I have that but I never bother installing it lol

[acoustic palm]

😭

[idle nexus]

too much background crap going on

[acoustic palm]

how do ppl spend money for smth then never actually use it

[pliant berry]

ummm

[idle nexus]

I used it for a couple days

[pliant berry]

you probably just didn't find the anime wallpaper that speaks to you

[idle nexus]

lol I checked the box to exclude anime

[pliant berry]

ahh so there were probably less than 50 results

[acoustic palm]

how do i see how long shipping is on newegg again

[pliant berry]

wallpaper engine land of the weebs

[idle nexus]

ya I didn't get the memo on that until after I bought it lmao

[acoustic palm]

nvm

so thats wednesday

[pliant berry]

there are some cool stuff though. I thought of making some of my own animated wallpapers

[acoustic palm]

and aio is 23rd

same with fans

do i order now

[pliant berry]

if you need it i suppose

[acoustic palm]

i go up to microcenter the 29th

then ill have everything

[mystic ruin]

just make your own router lol

[acoustic palm]

so idk if i get now

[frigid stag]

Xqc just started from streaming his games and he was in Owl

[fresh timber]

I think it’s bad

[frigid stag]

Many people do just that. Streaming their game and talking

[fresh timber]

The reason I think it’s bad because I’d rather get a nice used access point, a optiplex and a network card, but that’s just my opinion

Don’t call me that

[acoustic palm]

myb

[sinful blade]

I couldn’t care any less about what any of those 3 are doing

[fresh timber]

I’m bored

[fresh timber]

That’s dope

What ru using

[pliant berry]

what is this

[mystic ruin]

My router

[fresh timber]

A bit.. fast

[pliant berry]

may I ask why the hell you have a i9 for a router

[mystic ruin]

Why not

It's a non k

[pliant berry]

bruh, you know often an atom or celeron is plenty for routing

[mystic ruin]

Ummm it uses at least 6 cores when I saturate my network speed

And it's 1.5gpbs up n down

[pliant berry]

what the hell is your speed? 100gig

[fresh timber]

A optiplex can Handel that

A n100 probably could

[mystic ruin]

I like the headroom lol

[pliant berry]

lol I don't want to sound condescending but imo it's just a waste of resources. You can put a cpu like that to much better use

[fresh timber]

What headroom do u possibly need

😭😭😭

[fresh timber]

Atleast do something els with it besides only routing

Idk run stress test 24/7 for fun 😭😭

[pliant berry]

I was gonna say hypervisor but I wouldn't want to run my router on a hypervisor either

[frigid stag]

Degradation time

[mystic ruin]

Would you prefer me using an i9-9900k

[frigid stag]

I’ve legit seen CPU’s degrade from prime 95

Too high voltage i guess

[mystic ruin]

I just had a lot of spare parts I had no real use for a 10900

[frigid stag]

It’s about the same

[dusk knot]

I remember when the 9900k was awesome

[frigid stag]

Still is

[idle nexus]

my pihole is a 10700KF

[fresh timber]

Arnt you planning on doing other stuff with it tho

[pliant berry]

For custom home routers I've used junked office pcs in the past. If it was me I'd use that system for homelab. like a nas, or game server or something

[pliant berry]

if you want to play around pihole can be run in a docker container and try out more server apps like that

[idle nexus]

I, uh, have an HDD on it that I connect to with other computers for storage stuff

[fresh timber]

Yeah it’s your nas too

Your fine, nas can be cpu heavy depending on how you set it up

[storm umbra]

https://a.co/d/gc3ELRv

Msrp

[idle nexus]

I have a 10900K I could use instead? lol

[fresh timber]

Doo for funny

[storm umbra]

And its gone

[idle nexus]

10700KF/Z590 Unify-X/2x16gb 4266c19 necessary ya

[pliant berry]

too long to post the link smh

[fresh timber]

I love chat gpt

[mystic ruin]

Are these too much??

Lol

Also @pliant berry

[pliant berry]

self hosted app can be fun

[idle nexus]

I disabled DHCP on AT&T's stupid gateway; added an Asus router; & I think that does DHCP... the Pihole PC could do it I think? I dunno it was annoying & complicated but it works

[pliant berry]

nas use little to no resources on idle

[idle nexus]

I could use 12100F or G7400 for Pihole PC but then I gotta waste a Z6/790 on it lol

[mystic ruin]

I was able to fully saturate a 2.5gb port lol when transferring files

[fresh timber]

Personally I’d swap the server and nas

[fresh timber]

Depends on how you setup your nas

[pliant berry]

that's my current issue. most of my network is only 1gig so I just end up maxing the network when copying files

[fresh timber]

Real

I don’t have a active nas right now so I just use SLOW usb drives to transfer

[mystic ruin]

My rig is ready for 10gb I have a 10gb nic in it and the Nas has a 2.5gb nic in it

[idle nexus]

11th out of 120 lol

[pliant berry]

but are you direct connecting and if not does your router and/or switch have 10g

[mystic ruin]

I need a 10gb switch

They're just 2.5gb right now but the rig shows as 10gb link

[pliant berry]

that can be expensive

[velvet summit]

the hannah montana pc

[pliant berry]

but some 10g hardware has gone down in price lately

[fresh timber]

Sfp+ is cheap

[mystic ruin]

20 to 30$ a connector

I have that on my rig

[fresh timber]

guess what

when i go to my dads house it gets a entirely new ip

[idle nexus]

oh that reminds me

you know the default settings on ethernet adapters kinda suck

[fresh timber]

Wdym

[idle nexus]

like the EEE & other power saver crap

lol

[fresh timber]

Oh

I just leave default

Works fine for me

[mystic ruin]

aw

[idle nexus]

I had to set speed & duplex cuz it kept going to 100mbps

I hate how Windows checks this box for basically everything by default

I'll turn off my computer when I'm not using it okay Windows?

[fresh timber]

It will turn the nic off

This AP is satisfactory for dads house

[idle nexus]

I love how setting this to manual makes it ignore you & start doing crap while you're in-game anyway

[fresh timber]

I um

I just use wol

That’s about

[mystic ruin]

what are you trying to do exactly

[idle nexus]

lol make Windows update only run when I click on it

not that important really

[mystic ruin]

oooo

[idle nexus]

I could set it to not check for like a bunch of days but meh

er pause windows update I mean

[mystic ruin]

i was gaming while trying to show you guys my stuff

[idle nexus]

it just annoys me that in Event Viewer sometimes you can see where in the middle of a game it's like, "oh this would be a perfect time to download an update derp"

like honestly

wth is the point of "Game Mode"

if it doesn't even stop crap like that from happening

[mystic ruin]

@pliant berry peak 6 cores

[idle nexus]

like Windows updates are such an incredibly important thing that they can't wait a few hours

[limber crane]

Come at me bro

[mystic ruin]

lmao

[limber crane]

$90/month btw

[mystic ruin]

i never really had that issue lol

[mystic ruin]

oml

i pay 77$

[limber crane]

It's this or starlink and I don't trust satellites

[mystic ruin]

oof

[limber crane]

It was half this speed a few years ago, for the same price

[mystic ruin]

i just got fiber in my area

xfinity was ripping me off

[fresh timber]

I can show you faster

[fresh timber]

I’m using Xfinity rn lol

[limber crane]

Big patch days and digital games are full day downloads for me

[idle nexus]

I kinda wanna try ghost-spectre for daily

I installed it on 13600K/2x1080ti system for the heck of it

[limber crane]

I've seen faster, I'm just showing people some perspective

[idle nexus]

it's kinda nice ngl

[fresh timber]

They are a 10min thing for me lollllll

[mystic ruin]

120$ for 2gbps down and 300mpbs up

[fresh timber]

wtf

[mystic ruin]

yea

[fresh timber]

I get 700/40 for $100+ mom pays for it

I wish I had your speeds

[mystic ruin]

my current speeds are 1.5gbps up n down

[limber crane]

Happy for you 😌

[fresh timber]

Can I come over

@idle nexus ima see if my dad will order me ram Tommrow kek

[mystic ruin]

wanna pay rent for a studio and live with a cat on the floor?

[fresh timber]

Can I bring a desk and a bed

[mystic ruin]

cause i aint giving up my bed

theres no space

[limber crane]

See that's where I have the advantage, 6 acres and 3k sq feet and no rent 😜

[fresh timber]

Is your desk big enough for two?

[idle nexus]

for which CPU?

[mystic ruin]

can we move in lol

[fresh timber]

Idk yet lmfaooooooo

[mystic ruin]

ima build my dream house

[fresh timber]

I could put it in my 13600kf system but I’ll just be going to using two sticks instead of 4, or I can put it in my 5500 system and get 32gb ram

Then I’ll have two extra sticks lying around for 3rd system

[mystic ruin]

ima make tony starks malibu mansion look like a play doll house in comparison

[idle nexus]

try to get a ddr5 board for 13600KF lol

[fresh timber]

My budget doesn’t fit that quite yet

[limber crane]

Lol, I don't think my wife would approve of letting you move in over her daughter 🤣

[fresh timber]

I have to have for a laptop lmfao

[mystic ruin]

bro code

XD jk jk

[fresh timber]

Lmfaooooo

[limber crane]

Lmao

[fresh timber]

Bros before nice women

[limber crane]

Bros before not my kiddos

[fresh timber]

I doubt jokers wife is a “hoe”

[tranquil pebble]

Imagine an i3/u3 KS

[mystic ruin]

im a single pringle

[fresh timber]

14100ks

[frigid stag]

8350K

Closest we got

[fresh timber]

How’s your internet service

[idle nexus]

I mean 12100F will bclk really well

[tranquil pebble]

Haswell refresh gave us an unlocked Pentium lol

[frigid stag]

They wanted to make an xtreme i3 but never happened

[fresh timber]

Any isp in your area, I’ll happily upgrade your internet :))

[idle nexus]

I think they locked that out on 13th+

[frigid stag]

X99 i3

[tranquil pebble]

sad that we cant oc celerons anymore then

[mystic ruin]

i loved you guys were fixated on the i9 10900 and didnt question the 64gb of ram my router has lol

[idle nexus]

my 12100F bin sucks

[limber crane]

I just showed you lol

[idle nexus]

it did 5.5ghz but memory >7200 was a chore

[fresh timber]

Any better ISPs?

@idle nexus watch my video 😦

[limber crane]

Only starlink

[fresh timber]

I will dig my fiber then

[limber crane]

Lol

[mystic ruin]

well all chip for the best internet and ill bring my router for extra power XD

only if we move in

[limber crane]

You'll be digging for like 10 miles lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Do y'all pronunce it BMW or BMV

[limber crane]

After 10 years or so you get used to the slow speeds. You just accept not playing patches or games on launch day

[mystic ruin]

i pronouce it like check engine light constantly on

[fresh timber]

Gsjill is taunting me

[idle nexus]

bdie timee

[limber crane]

I'm too poor to pronounce those

[fresh timber]

My dad has 50/10 speeds, I’m redownloading everything in my moms internet before I go to dads 😭😭

[limber crane]

When I visit my parents i use their fiber to download all kinds of stuff

[fresh timber]

lol, either way my 2nd rig only has 2 slots

[limber crane]

Even the wifi at my work is faster

[fresh timber]

Bring a usb nvme lmfaooooo

[idle nexus]

DDR4 prices are willlld

like wth is this

[limber crane]

Even Verizon won't do coverage here for their Internet

[fresh timber]

I should make a portable steam cache

[mystic ruin]

i paid 50$ for 64gb of drr4 of ram

so yea

[fresh timber]

What’s your mobile 5g speeds

[fresh timber]

Rgb?

[mystic ruin]

nah normal corsair vengence

[fresh timber]

Oh

Do I neeeeeeex 64gb

[mystic ruin]

rgb=optional for a router lol

[fresh timber]

Oh yeahh

But so I neeeeeeeeeee it

I kind wantrrrr it

[idle nexus]

jI've kinda always wanted this RAM not sure why https://www.newegg.com/hp-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/0RN-000Z-00P46

[mystic ruin]

my main rig is ddr5 and i paid 50$ for the kit of 32gb

[idle nexus]

$50 & it's 3200c14-14-14-34

[fresh timber]

I would upgrade my system to ddr5 and more ram but I need to afford a laptop

[mystic ruin]

50$

[fresh timber]

I sniff an Intel system

Peaktel

[limber crane]

Where's that Intel shill

[idle nexus]

with 3200c14 bdie, it'll probably run as high as 4800

[fresh timber]

I’m at the point I just want ram capacity

[idle nexus]

DDR4 or 5? cuz Klev 5600c46 16gb sticks are only $76

[acoustic palm]

bro how did my internet speed halve randomly

😭

[idle nexus]

I use two of those for daily at 6200c28

[fresh timber]

Idk

I should stop yapping and redo my ram

[mystic ruin]

Tarrifs XD jk

[fresh timber]

Oh yeah

I techncily downgrade my 2nd ram

[idle nexus]

that HP RAM may look questionable, but it's what's under the hood heatspreader that matters lol

[fresh timber]

Idfk how you overclock on am4 so my Corsair that can run 4000 is running 3200 while old ram does 3733 but no rgb

[idle nexus]

they even tell you it's bdie

[tranquil pebble]

speaking of heat spreaders, I read that one of the cheaper Ryzen 5s uses thermal paste under the IHS resulting in very poor cooling performance unless delided.

[idle nexus]

3200c14 is sleeping bdie

[tranquil pebble]

idk how true that is but interesting

[idle nexus]

you can borrow my delidding tool if you need to lol

[idle nexus]

two DIMM board generally overclock memory better anyway

[fresh timber]

Idk if this one can, I don’t even know where to start for a 5500

[idle nexus]

lol you underestimate that 5500

it's monolithic die

[fresh timber]

I know it’s that good

It’s a 5600g

I just don’t know how.. u ryzen oc

Lmfao

[mystic ruin]

old memory unlocked

[fresh timber]

And my bios sucks

[tranquil pebble]

I only have Ryzen 7s so I am not affected lol

anyways, this cursed unit

[idle nexus]

4600 daily stable on 5600g

[fresh timber]

If I can do that with 32gb I’m in

[idle nexus]

4933 synced FCLK POSTed lol

[fresh timber]

I kinda wanna know how that gskill kit runs

[idle nexus]

this was on a B550 Strix board that drove me nuts

[mystic ruin]

@fresh timber an older picture of my build

[fresh timber]

My motherboard doesn’t claim to support that fast of ram

[fresh timber]

Wow

So.. old

[idle nexus]

lol they never do

[idle nexus]

Crucial Ballistix on 5600g = fun time

[lone mango]

Bro its not even covering the whole iod

[fresh timber]

My z790 claims it can do 5333 ram

[idle nexus]

it probably can ya

gear 2 but still

4000 in gear 1 is still faster than 5333 in gear 2

[mystic ruin]

Old meme

[lone mango]

Oh because it switches to 2:1 right

[tranquil pebble]

how much does gear 2 reduce performance at the same freq and timings?

[fresh timber]

How fast of gear 2 do I need to beat gear 1 4000

[idle nexus]

not sure offhand but your IMC is running at half the frequency

[idle nexus]

lol I dunno the conversion like that

& it depends too

some use cases prefer the higher frequency

[fresh timber]

Should attempt 4100 or what ever it is

[idle nexus]

might as well lol

[fresh timber]

lil bet

I’m in the floor

[idle nexus]

inside the PC, cable manage. Outside, mess for me lol

[fresh timber]

Bro

It’s soo hard once you get more than the absolute basics

I have too much stuff

Ima buy rgb fans for the pc and a Argb controller later cause fun

@idle nexus old ram back in, shall I attempt PBO

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5060-ti-final-specs-confirmed-gb206-gpu-16-8gb-gddr7-and-2-57-ghz-boost

[honest birch]

Waste

[acoustic palm]

i like it

[honest birch]

U dont even see ur wallpaper 90% of the time

[acoustic palm]

ok

[honest birch]

Id rather have one less background task

[acoustic palm]

ok

[misty sparrow]

8GB? Still?

[honest birch]

Thermal throttles

[misty sparrow]

they never learn

[rancid juniper]

yuh

YOU'LL LIKE IT

[fresh timber]

OMG IT DOES

[lone mango]

A whole 97 mhz faster

[fresh timber]

Which one @honest birch @idle nexus

[rancid juniper]

3733 CL18 run

pls

[fresh timber]

It does run

I did for a month just fine

[rancid juniper]

and then?

[fresh timber]

I just ser to auto

[fresh timber]

Nothing

[rancid juniper]

ok

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/rtx-5090-jensen-huang-oven-gif-8136587731387362568

[fresh timber]

The order of the ram sticks determines which Xmp profile gets read

[rancid juniper]

no its just air

Ai generated the rest of the gpu

[lone mango]

Bro just use dlss 4 and now 8gb is like 16

[honest birch]

Advanced

[acoustic palm]

me with a 64gb macbook

that means its 128gb 🤤

[lone mango]

Also means you are in overdraft

[nocturne flicker]

I prefer underdrafts myself

They are nice

[misty sparrow]

If you placed your balance in an Apple Card it’s analogous to a normal balance

[fresh timber]

i added 50mhz cause i dont feel like testing stability, and i cant use ryzen mater to even check what my best and worst core is to a voltage curve thingy kek

[nocturne flicker]

If you have an apple card, stop making cards out of apples that is weird bro

Ryzen Mater

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-get-an-iphone-they-are-so-good-iphone-iphones-iphone-break-jerryrigeverything-gif-7633997654041015866

[acoustic palm]

just dont bend it

[random osprey]

iphone 6 incident

[nocturne flicker]

Just don't waste money on an iPhone

[acoustic palm]

i get it for free

[nocturne flicker]

Do tell, I am intrigued

[acoustic palm]

my dad

[frigid stag]

Just waste the same amount of money or realistically more on a Samsung

[nocturne flicker]

Yeah. Ha ha, imagine doing that. He says as he uses his S22

[lone mango]

Thats weird it should show which cores are good when opening

[fresh timber]

100% good

[fresh timber]

Ryzen master doesn’t even open or install for me, it just stops installing

[lone mango]

But you can also let it do the auto function

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

Yeah..

[lone mango]

The hell

[fresh timber]

I can’t even use it to check cores real fast

That’s all I need

[lone mango]

Well then try all core

[fresh timber]

It’s fine at +50 I’m happy

[lone mango]

Obviously worse than doing each core but is almost as good

[lone mango]

I mean thats nothing might as well leave stock

And just lower the curve

[fresh timber]

That’s boring

[lone mango]

+200 or nothing

[fresh timber]

In a second

I have to clean room

perfectly balanced

[turbid violet]

Does anyone know if your suppose to put a the metal piece back on top of a SSD? Like is it a heat shield?

[mystic ruin]

hexos is more stable than i thought

[safe cape]

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[fresh timber]

What about it

Don’t worry about that

Or why the gpu isn’t scrwwed in

Temporary

[acoustic palm]

@sweet phoenix any good gpu deals for like

800$ ish

for my friend

[storm umbra]

WHY SO MUCH RAM

[turbid violet]

Does anyone know which screws are used to screw in the mobo to the case? And how many do I need to use???

[fresh timber]

Is that a bad thing to have ram?

[sinful blade]

Standard is 4

[dusk knot]

Empty slots

[sinful blade]

And screws depend on the motherboard

[storm umbra]

ive heard having more than 2 slots filled on certain cpu's can bottleneck

but idk thats just what ive heard

[fresh timber]

I run just fine

[turbid violet]

I got like 4 different screw bags with 1 beg and a whole bunch of washers

[fresh timber]

Infact I’m overclocked lmfao

[storm umbra]

thats good

idk then i was prob fed missinfo

[sinful blade]

Check #building-and-recc-chat

[turbid violet]

Thanks

[storm umbra]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C72D7Y3H/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2PLY15784G1JK&th=1 is this a worth while buy?

i know i dont need an aio

but i want one

and it has lcd

for only 120

[dusk knot]

drives back home from work to 5080 at top speed

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[fresh timber]

the 13600kf is soo omuch better thn the 5500 in terms of running servers lmfao

mf doesnt even realsie the server is on

then again this is the superrior pc in terms of ram and cpu kek

[honest birch]

No

Thermalright

[storm umbra]

i was just looking at their lcd aio but its highly returned

[fresh timber]

I want lcdnaio now

The sag 😭😭😭

I’m looking for a box that can fit perfectly

[dusk knot]

Oof

Use a crayon

[storm umbra]

whats ur budget

i know a nice case

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DQPQDCLB/ref=ewc_pr_img_4?smid=A2Y7PYT7XZVQ53&psc=1

[fresh timber]

What

[storm umbra]

okinos makes really cool cases for not expensive

[fresh timber]

I’m not buying a new case kek, let alone a big one

I have a big case, never again

Oo I can fix sag doing this

Sag fix

[acoustic palm]

my case has built in sag protection

[fresh timber]

I only have one case with sag

[acoustic palm]

gg

[storm narwhal]

Wipe ya damn phone

[limber crane]

for real

looks like a phone from the early 00s

[storm narwhal]

The grease on your camera bro

[dense locust]

Looks like a game with too much bloom

[fresh timber]

he;[

cpu bottleneck

guess the task

[dense locust]

5500

That exists?

[fresh timber]

what about it

it was $80

[dense locust]

[fresh timber]

5500 suckls

im not even saturating my intenet

[storm umbra]

https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Frozen-Vision-360-Black-Liquid/dp/B0D1KPGWQS/ref=sr_1_1?

[rancid juniper]

can you OC your 5500?

[storm umbra]

Is this the one ur talking abt?

[fresh timber]

yup

this bad boy is on a b450

[fresh timber]

is their a 240mm vr

[storm umbra]

i cant find one :((

[rancid juniper]

👍

[fresh timber]

My internet just flippin died

...

WHY

[storm umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-gif-10353676990730864957

[fresh timber]

@honest birch how tf is the kingston a400 better than boot nvme

mf does not drop in speed

[rancid juniper]

After tweaking the 13600k for well over a damn year i finally have something stable to daily

The crew

[storm narwhal]

Call of doody

[rancid juniper]

Call of mid

[storm narwhal]

Real

Its only consistently fun if you're bad at the game

[dense locust]

Call of duty is the sports game of the shooter genre

[rancid juniper]

Very true

Cod imo represents gamers who don't play any other game outside their scope

Heh, scope

[fresh timber]

well tommrow ima be playing mostly at 4k so i dont feel the cpu bottleneck

so i downloaded games i wanna play

[rancid juniper]

Like the group motorfest

[fresh timber]

dad house has poo slow wifi so it will take hours over their to download anything

[fresh timber]

yup

[rancid juniper]

I only have crew 2

I'll get motorfest when it's around $10

[fresh timber]

i got it for $20

funna be fun seeing if i can do 4k 60

is it normal for steam to use.. so much

mf cpu is a bottleneck if u have fast internet

[rancid juniper]

I mean when you have Fast Internet transfer+ drives it's gonna require a lot from the CPU

[fresh timber]

i guess i nevr notice this with my intel

14 cores really hides alot

[rancid juniper]

Yep + high clockspeed

But cores definitely

[fresh timber]

clock speed doesnt matter, its the IPC

1ghz cpu with ipc of a 5ghz 7700x when

[rancid juniper]

World's strongest IPC rn is probably apple's highest end chip

[fresh timber]

yeah

[rancid juniper]

I'm glad Mac is slowly getting more into gaming

[fresh timber]

ill get a 5700x3d for this system later smh, 5700x3d is like a 13600kf anyways in gaming atleast

and my intenet died again

i swapped cables

Omg

[dusk knot]

Idk but.....I think I'm getting a bit of motion sickness if you can call that from the MFG 2X

Feels uncanny

Max settings playing Indiana Jones

Already, almost 15gb of Vram.....

[unreal trail]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/880841351107866685/1352836351707316335/Screenshot_20250321-215915.jpg?ex=67df7688&is=67de2508&hm=f0e1ff0ae8ff3374d0eed9e2738dae663bd0eec27b853be90db9a9aea0ee16bd&=&format=webp&width=876&height=1944

[dusk knot]

And now I see 16gb....

[proud jackal]

[dusk knot]

Jk ..15

I was reading system ram lol

You know what, I don't care about fake frames

As long as the latency is tolerable and I don't notice any visual issues, idc

[fresh timber]

It’s been doing this for about 6 mins now

[mystic ruin]

I can print you a holder for the card

[fresh timber]

windows installing a 2017 driver wasnt helping.. so 2025 one it is

[fresh timber]

im good, the 7700xt wont last in the saggy build for more than a week anyways

@mystic ruin how the hell is a 5500 only getting like 50 fps less than a 13600kf in fornite 1440p low

13600kf can get 300-350, 5500 getting 250-300

[wise wigeon]

you got it already?

[fresh timber]

checks out

500mhz and 100c

yup

oh..

[mystic ruin]

How am I supposed to know lol

[fresh timber]

umm this case is a MF HOTBOX

WAIt

WHY ARE THE FANS NOT SPINNING

[lone mango]

My friend got a 6000 mhz kit and it wont post

[mystic ruin]

I'm rocking 7600mhz lol

[lone mango]

I just found out that the motherboard on it goes up to 5200

[fresh timber]

The pc shut down

[lone mango]

Like what the hell

[fresh timber]

Why tf is the gpu cooking it self damn

it was littrely JUST fine

[mystic ruin]

What were the temps

[fresh timber]

100+c

idfk what went wrong

[mystic ruin]

Oof

What GPU?

[fresh timber]

7700xt

ima um.. shut down

figure out why the fan no spin

[mystic ruin]

She's toasty and the fan connectors got disconnected huh

[fresh timber]

Ummm

Soooook

It littelry burns to touch

Like my skin burns

😭😭

Ok it’s just the backplate

So heat is getting transferred but fans no do stuff

A lot got transferred to ssd and AIO too

[rancid juniper]

wtf

[fresh timber]

Bro it burns to touch

I can’t even uninstall it

[rancid juniper]

let it cool, why your fans aint working?

[fresh timber]

that’s why I’m uninstalling it rn

Fans not working and I just noticed

[wraith fern]

interesting

[rancid juniper]

wow ngl this is the first time ive seen a gpu exceed those temps without a thermal shutdown

especially for RDNA

[fresh timber]

Oh it shut down

[rancid juniper]

oh

[dusk knot]

Yeah.. I can finally see PT with my two own eyes

[fresh timber]

Sensor maxes at 114 or 113 I forgot and it shut down after

But it sat their hot for a second

[rancid juniper]

🔥

[wraith fern]

i was surprised too

[rancid juniper]

he hit it just 1c further

[proud jackal]

rip george foreman

[wraith fern]

oop

[fresh timber]

Fans are.. normal

[wraith fern]

is left connector fully plugged in

doesnt look 100%

[fresh timber]

It’s -00%

It was working.. not even 4 hours ago

[mystic ruin]

I'm pretty sure you can cook steak on it for how how that card is

[fresh timber]

The metal back plate littelry burns my skin

It can melt ice reality quickly

[wraith fern]

you can cook steak on any gpu really

[mystic ruin]

Yeah but with his it's quicker I'm hungry lol

[wraith fern]

true!

[fresh timber]

Should I attempt again

Try getting fan spin

I’m in no mood to rma

😭😭😭

Thank fod

SHE IS NOT HAPPY

My displays arnt working right tho. 😭😭

:))

[icy ore]

[fresh timber]

5500 is an alright cpu, def my bottleneck in forntite tho

fortnite loves cpu

this cpu does not like minecraft holy

[storm umbra]

just found a nice low price keyboard

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZGDPT4M/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

i love steelseries ❤️

im using a mouse from them, they are so good at making good products under $100

[fresh timber]

i have apex pro tkl

nice keeb

[storm umbra]

Also using this

https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Rival-Quantum-Wireless-Gaming/dp/B07HCXFQ8P/

but its the non wireless version

i prefer wires

https://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-PrismSync-Lighting-Programmable-Buttons/dp/B0999TTGYS/

its this one

[wraith fern]

Isn’t the name arab Jesus redundant? Like wasn’t Jesus already arab?

Also why do you prefer wireless mice 😰

[dusk knot]

I think my room will never be hot again

[hoary zodiac]

uh no

[wraith fern]

?

[hoary zodiac]

Jesus wasn't arab

What led you to that conclusion

[fresh timber]

5500 runs nice until it freezes randomly in the game

[wraith fern]

probably the fact he was born in the arabian peninsula

shocker i know

[hoary zodiac]

No he was born in the Levant

[wraith fern]

oh ffs

close enough

lmao

[hoary zodiac]

By that logic you can call jewish people arabic

[wraith fern]

well thats its whole own separate issue

im not going to get into that

[hoary zodiac]

There are many ethnicities in that region

[wraith fern]

ya

thats what imperialism does to a region

[hoary zodiac]

It didn't become widely populated by Arabs up until hundreds of years after Jesus supposedly died

[wraith fern]

when did he die, 35ad?

[hoary zodiac]

The ethnicity of the middle east around that time was very different

[wraith fern]

well yeah

are you in college?

[hoary zodiac]

Is that relevant?

[wraith fern]

its merely a question

i dont see why you need to get defensive

[storm narwhal]

Now if your next question is something like "what college do you go to"

[wraith fern]

lmao

[fresh timber]

what colleg do u go to

[wraith fern]

nah i was just wondering

[wraith fern]

husters university

😮‍💨

[misty sparrow]

You mean “hustler’s” university?

That isn’t a joke by the way, it just showed me the Andrew Tate university

Never knew he made one

[storm narwhal]

Oh yeah that's the one you definitely want to avoid lmao

[misty sparrow]

It’s probably a Boys-Only university anyway

[storm narwhal]

Students would probably just get murdered if it wasn't

[misty sparrow]

Free outdoor cooling

[dusk knot]

My room didn't heat up from gaming. Feels good

[wraith fern]

oh yeah did i forget an l

whoops typo

[misty sparrow]

There’s some strange plastic-like SSD cover that slid off my prebuilt’s SSD and I have no idea what it could be

doesn’t look like a heatsink because you could easily fit another SSD inside of it by just sliding it in

[storm umbra]

i dont

[wraith fern]

i meant wired

lol

[storm umbra]

no batteries

and cheaper

[wraith fern]

wires dont get in the way for you?

[storm umbra]

steelseries makes amazing mice and keyboards

not really no

[wraith fern]

oh

ok

[storm umbra]

just copped a great deal

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.4770068&_gl=1

got a nice priced oled and a extremely close to msrp 9070xt

[wise wigeon]

a great deal is subjective

[icy ore]

Nice, hope you enjoy

[wise wigeon]

but if you were looking for both then thats good

[storm umbra]

i was :))

100+ ppl had it in their cart

im just glad i clicked buy now

[dusk knot]

I mean. I see this as a win

[misty sparrow]

Because of the OLED?

[dusk knot]

Yes

[fresh timber]

unorincily i would totally put my pc in the basement

when i go to mydads house im putting my pc in the big living room so i wont even notice the heat

[dusk knot]

Compared to years ago, you're saving $500

[fresh timber]

$550 on monitor and $674 on the gpu

sounds like a deal seeing 9070xt is also white

[dusk knot]

A Great deal

[wraith fern]

seems nice thinking about it heat wise but every cable would need to be super long and if you had an issue i feel like it would be a pain

[fresh timber]

if i had ethernet id just game over network

[wraith fern]

?

[fresh timber]

moonlight

game streaming

stuff like that

[wraith fern]

wha

[fresh timber]

https://moonlight-stream.org/

[wraith fern]

but what does that have to do with needing long cables since your pc would be far away

[fresh timber]

that solves the cable problem

u dont need them

[wraith fern]

i wouldnt trust that

[fresh timber]

??

[wraith fern]

it works well?

[fresh timber]

how

yes?????

its moonlight/sunshine bro

of coures its good

[wraith fern]

bro

you expect me to know what this random application is?

[fresh timber]

idk it seems pretty popular in the communitys im in

[wraith fern]

lmao

ok

seems like its sorta limited with usecase

especially with usage of special hardware which i use a lot of

[fresh timber]

???

if u can do it at the computer physically, you can do it with moonlight.. unless ur un bios or something where the program doesnt run

[wraith fern]

thats not what their faq says

[fresh timber]

read under

[wraith fern]

right

i did

why would i pay

but im confused on the use for this, it's basically a remote desktop? so you're running it on another pc?

[fresh timber]

yeah, use ur laptop or something in ur room

boom, no more pc heat in room

[wraith fern]

ah cool

[misty sparrow]

I use Moonlight on my television

[fresh timber]

same

i use sunshine as the host and moonlight as the client

[storm narwhal]

So basically, pc in basement as host, connect to device (tablet) over network

[wraith fern]

right

just a remote desktop

[storm narwhal]

yup

[fresh timber]

tablet, phone, any computer basicly works