general-chat

[dense locust]

i got the game for free

i doubt ill install it in its current state

[rancid juniper]

man i wanna play

but i gotta wait for sale

[fresh timber]

i should buy this system more storage

[rancid juniper]

add one COD and see what happens

then you'll know

[fresh timber]

bro i just uninstall gta5 legacy 😢

[rancid juniper]

🗿

[fresh timber]

girlfriend funa enjoy the enchanced graphcis when playing her campain world

[wise wigeon]

That's a bit of a high bar, any frame drops?

[fresh timber]

y e s

its a pollygon game

[wise wigeon]

Guess you gotta quit minecraft

[fresh timber]

it looks blurry asf when i play too for osme reason

[fresh timber]

minecraft is designed around blocks, not monster

[rancid juniper]

WAT!??~~?~?~?~?~?~?~?~

[wise wigeon]

Honestly the performance seems hella variable

Because my brother was chillin in the beta

[fair onyx]

@hoary zodiac @pliant berry holy CRAP this thing is built like a damn tank. Good Lord, it's gonna last a lifetime lmao

[wise wigeon]

Because I have a friend with no complaints on a 4060 and a friend with issues on a 4070

[devout forum]

Damn

[wary fjord]

GTA V enhance kinda useless without rt card sad

[devout forum]

The fear came true

9070 XT is gonna be around 1100 euros

[wise wigeon]

Figured it'd be higher than people expected

[devout forum]

At that point
The value is dead

[wise wigeon]

At least in EU

[pliant berry]

backpack?

[rancid juniper]

facts

[hoary zodiac]

I'm still waiting for mine

International shipping

[devout forum]

On the flip side
That's for a bumheck nowhere Eastern European country

[hoary zodiac]

not LTT issue tho

[fair onyx]

Mine got delivered to the wrong house 😭

[hoary zodiac]

magyarland?

[devout forum]

Ye

[fair onyx]

Mom took me over to our other house, thankfully

And the hoodie is also extremely well made. I love it

But this backpack is built like a damn tank

[devout forum]

I do think that price is more real for most of Europe tbf

[wise wigeon]

Sytan went from cursing the shipping to ih wow this is really nice

[misty sparrow]

oh, Gameloft

instant pass

[rancid juniper]

oh

☠️

[wary fjord]

730 usd here

[rancid juniper]

street price go crazy

GPU when not U.S.A be like:

[wise wigeon]

Fr

[devout forum]

Seems like it's gonna be a "5070 Ti performance for 200 dollars cheaper" situation

For the XT

[wise wigeon]

We shall see tomorrow

[devout forum]

Like in terms of street price

[wise wigeon]

Pray there isn't major early adopter issues

[devout forum]

Today for me

It's already the 5th here

[wraith fern]

ew league!

[nocturne flicker]

Alright T minus 28 minutes

[wise wigeon]

For the embargo I mean

[devout forum]

What's the lift time again?

[wise wigeon]

Probably 8 or 9 am est

[devout forum]

So in about 10-12 hours?

[rancid juniper]

nice

[wary fjord]

not really the nvidia 5090 here is 3.2 grand

[rancid juniper]

hopefully i see em smiling or something

lmfao

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-throw-angry-smash-gif-15838617

[wary fjord]

3.2 grand u can buy used car on that

[wise wigeon]

With HUB Steve be standing or sitting we shall see

[misty sparrow]

a really crappy one though

[rancid juniper]

hope he's sitting

[misty sparrow]

it's still cheaper than having a girlfriend though i will give them that

i'd rather buy a GPU than get one

[rancid juniper]

a GOOD one at that

[fair onyx]

The shipping was an absolute insane dumpster fire nightmare. No updates, they said it had shipped when it hadn't. They said it was supposed to be delivered at 10AM, then 11AM, then 1PM, then 3PM, then 7PM

Then it was delivered to the wrong address. I have no idea how, I haven't lived at that house in 3 years, and I don't have that address saved anywhere, and my shipping address I put in was the current one. I have no idea, but thankfully we own the old house still

[misty sparrow]

where the hell are you looking for cars that have decent used cars at 3.2 grand?

[wise wigeon]

Better used market?

[craggy shoal]

Not really 💀

[misty sparrow]

yeah that's my point

**w h e r e **

[rancid juniper]

shhhhhhhhhh

[fair onyx]

It was worth it tho, I have no doubt in my mind this bag will last a lifetime

[misty sparrow]

I want in, I don't care if there's Fight Club-like rules

[wise wigeon]

Also define good

[fair onyx]

My lowepro backpack I daily used for 3 years in highschool and I've had it for 6, and it has basically no wear, and that backpack isn't even 1/4th and built as this one

[wary fjord]

5070 ti is double the price of 9070xt here @rancid juniper

[rancid juniper]

the more you buy the more you ai

[wise wigeon]

My dad is pretty good at finding used cars and you would be hard pressed to find a 2015+ car with less than 100k miles for under like 6k

[safe cape]

give it to the next person

[wary fjord]

they probably gonna just emulate gpu using ai one day

no more rops just tops

[rancid juniper]

sends you a $3500 usb stick to plug into your PC and your GPU is fully ai cloud based + dlss + MFG x24

can beat 4090

[rancid juniper]

can't top these problems tho

[nocturne flicker]

The power ceases

https://tenor.com/view/omg-hell-gif-13171534

[next knoll]

Fr, I'd get a bike

[nocturne flicker]

Very windy tonight so power went out. Gonna be 20-30mph all of tomorrow

Gusts potentially up to 55mph

[next knoll]

Where you at

[nocturne flicker]

Tn

[next knoll]

Take care buddy

[gentle canyon]

tennessee i think

[nocturne flicker]

No LotRO for me tonight

[gentle canyon]

any chance you like Tennessee college football

[nocturne flicker]

I don't watch sports and I do not pay attention to the Volunteers, no

[devout forum]

That's why you should have a sizable UPS

3 hours battery backup would do it

[nocturne flicker]

The only attention I pay is putting up with 8/10 people wearing something with a UT logo

[gentle canyon]

only reason I asked is cause im in OH lol

[nocturne flicker]

Something something the people hate Kentucky and Alabama

[gentle canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/ohio-state-football-2025-national-championship-raising-trophy-ohio-state-ohio-state-trophy-ryan-day-gif-8360091529114945889

[nocturne flicker]

I dunno I'm not a local

I know more about NY baseball

And even then that is not much

[gentle canyon]

all the southern teams hate each other

[hoary zodiac]

we should see a showdown

between american and japanese baseball teams

[mental yoke]

throw korean in there too

[nocturne flicker]

The New York teams'll be too busy trying to beat eachother to focus on beating Japanese teams

[fresh timber]

I wanan see American vs Japanese basketball

I wanna see LeBron Luka and curry just destroy them

[wise wigeon]

you mean 2023

[slate fractal]

what jolly rancher flavor is your favorite chat

[nocturne flicker]

Jollyranchers? What am I, 70?

Blue raspberry

[wise wigeon]

basic

[slate fractal]

whats yours

[wise wigeon]

sour apple

[nocturne flicker]

Sour apple is 2nd for me

[slate fractal]

i love sour apple

it tastes like toxic acid

in a good way

[nocturne flicker]

These are chemically flavored pieces of unaturally colored sugar, they all taste like toxic acid

[slate fractal]

not wrong

but apple is nice

[nocturne flicker]

The powah returns

\o/

[nocturne flicker]

Pan more like pain

[slate fractal]

i hate Tennessee

[nocturne flicker]

So do I

I just live here man

I don't have to like it

[slate fractal]

ohh were neighbors

nc

[slate fractal]

helene hit you bad?

[nocturne flicker]

Nah, I'm west of the bad stuff

Newport was flooded for ages tho

[slate fractal]

real here in charlotte it just rained for 2 days straight for helene

my friend further west into the mountains of NC his house floated away

my grandparents in the mountains their house was totaled and their shed washed away, abt 7k worth of stuff in that shed lmao

[nocturne flicker]

We just had rain. Honestly the tornado cell we had go through recently was worse than what we got

[slate fractal]

yeah theres supposed to be some bad storms through Mississippi and Louisiana and Alabama, hope it doesnt come up here

but they already closed schools for tomorrow here

[hoary zodiac]

New printer

[misty sparrow]

Boeing's new printer is now canon

[hoary zodiac]

I have a nikon camera so

double dipping

[nocturne flicker]

Boeing canon

Need more lore

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if they're good at printing photos

I could probably sell some of my prints

[lone mango]

Normies dont care they just want “the fricken killer gaming pc”

I think optimization is dead

[fresh timber]

What happens when the killer gaming pc can’t run the game

[hoary zodiac]

tfw printer drivers are a pain

[craggy shoal]

Reddit in a nutshell

[dense locust]

what are the downsides of Linux
Linux

[velvet summit]

It's as easy as just installing them... As long as you're on windows
I wonder if cups has the driver

[dense locust]

Didn’t printers have kernel level access at one point

[fresh timber]

Non

Linux, more stable, more capable, doesn’t eat ram

Thanks for listing to my Ted talk

[dense locust]

Less user friendly

[wary fjord]

its harder to reverse a f around and f out in linux than windows. other than that nothing.

[fresh timber]

Idk man, seems very friendly to me

[fresh timber]

If windows breaks you reinstall

[dense locust]

Sure man
I’m sure the other 3% agree with you

[fresh timber]

If Linux breaks you have hope

[fresh timber]

I mean what’s wrong with using it to web browse

[wary fjord]

depends never broke a windows like that

[fresh timber]

Say that to the thousands of steam deck users :))

They also use Linux

[dense locust]

The fact there are like 1000 Linux distribution doesn’t help

[fresh timber]

Nobody uses more than the top 10 anyways

Theirs 1000 versions of windows

23h2 24h2, etc et. All with their own bugs and problems

[wary fjord]

stay away on non production ready linux distro

security risk

[dense locust]

If you think that’s windows I can see Linux as terminal hell

[fresh timber]

I’m a fan of Debian and Ubuntu

[wary fjord]

yeah they look pretty

[fresh timber]

Iv had more issues on my windows machine than my Linux one

[dense locust]

Gaming performance is pretty good tho

After a few hours of trying to install games

[fresh timber]

Can’t keep my windows pc on for more than a week with out issues, Linux can be turned on for a month

[fresh timber]

You did something wrong

Check protondb

[ancient swift]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/103651/amds-next-gen-medusa-halo-apu-leaks-zen-6-chip-rumored-with-rtx-5070-ti-levels-of-gaming-perf/index.html

No way

[fresh timber]

The most I had to do was install a diffrent version of proton for marvel rivals

[dense locust]

Not everyone just plays games on steam

[fresh timber]

Theirs other stores to use

[ancient swift]

5070 ti level performance for an APU is a high mark. Would be shocking.

[wary fjord]

mobile*

[dense locust]

If true Nvidia is doing what intel did and stopping innovation while amd catches up fast

[fresh timber]

You got heroic game launcher, gog, steam

[dense locust]

I tried manjaro because someone told me to try it

[ancient swift]

The article isn't claiming mobile performance.

[fresh timber]

Peak

[dense locust]

Too much terminal usage

[fresh timber]

Linux, just type things

[fresh timber]

Terminal is lowkey faster

I’m starting to prefer it

[dense locust]

Which is a reason Linux is not mainstream

[fresh timber]

Wait till you hear what the discord servers run

[wary fjord]

yeah its exagerating

[wise wigeon]

they're stagnating on the hardware side for sure at least this gen, pretty sure next gen is a node shrink so we will see

[fresh timber]

Also I think Linux is becoming more and more mainstream with the rise of steamOS

[fresh timber]

So usage was all wrong 😭😭

[wise wigeon]

in terms of more users because of the steam deck and steam os yes

but steam os is pretty dumbed down

[fresh timber]

Still Linux so I count it

[dense locust]

1%->3%
A tripling!

[fresh timber]

Theirs always desktop mode too

[fresh timber]

That’s progress

[dense locust]

Trust me guys this year is the year of Linux

[ancient swift]

They are saying 30% to 50% over the Strix Halo.

Strix Halo was around the 6700 and the 5070 ti is 66% over that. So 5070 to 5070 ti perf would be in reach for some games probably if that was true.

[fresh timber]

It is

The best is

Windows is trash

[wise wigeon]

I mean do you count android as linux because it was linux based

[fresh timber]

Yes

I do

Techncily a Linux distro

[dense locust]

Doesn’t android no longer have any code in common with Linux?

[wise wigeon]

strix halo is barely a gimped 4060 i thought

[fresh timber]

Idk I stopped keeping up after 10

[hoary zodiac]

what's all the linux talk about

I was setting up my printer

[fresh timber]

iOS is superior anyway

[wary fjord]

what u mean? still uses linux kernel

[mortal grail]

Ah look you said it three times and now he's been summoned

[ancient swift]

It's a smidge below the 6700 yeah.

[fresh timber]

Linux enough for me

[wary fjord]

also congrats joining red team

[fresh timber]

Isn’t the ps4 tech icky Linux

[wary fjord]

i only main linux at work not on my house

its too fragile

to keep

[fresh timber]

If broken wayy more windows installs than Linux, windows decided to combust if you look at it wrong

[wary fjord]

been windows user since 2005 i can handle my windows

[mortal grail]

Thanks

[dense locust]

Tf you doing to windows

[fresh timber]

Littelry using it

[ancient swift]

I've been team red for CPU's since am4. And I wanna get the 9070xt eventually lol

[dense locust]

I’ve broke my pi os twice

[hoary zodiac]

that's pretty much my windows experience

[fresh timber]

Last install decided it likes to not run explorer correctly

[hoary zodiac]

it kills itself without my intervention

[wise wigeon]

lets hope thursday is good for you and me

[mortal grail]

I've been a windows user since I was born

I remember the first windows experience

[wise wigeon]

well lets hope reviews prove amd right and not wrong

[mortal grail]

At the birth ward

[ancient swift]

Not that soon

[mortal grail]

Nurse came over

[hoary zodiac]

I'd still be using windows if microsoft wasn't so keen on their stupid updates that keep breaking everything

[mortal grail]

Opened one up

[fresh timber]

I grew up with windows 7

[wary fjord]

what handed u a lincense key?

with kaspersky 3 years freebies

[mortal grail]

No she had the keys on her belt for all the windows

[wise wigeon]

I still remembert playing pinball on my dad's computer with xp

[fresh timber]

I’m weird now, I only use windows on my gaming rigs everything els is Linux

[mortal grail]

Fr

[wary fjord]

bet u dint see pinball 64 bit version

[dense locust]

Honestly with a few changes to windows nobody would use Linux
They are big changes tho

[mortal grail]

I had like a 3 mill high score

Lol

[wise wigeon]

i mean really i was using xp into my middle school years

[wary fjord]

200mb ram usage

[hoary zodiac]

windows 7 was peak

[wise wigeon]

it had its issues

[mortal grail]

Eventually you get to the point where you hit the bumpers in order and you unlock new parts of the pinball machine

[hoary zodiac]

compared to 10 and 11

[wise wigeon]

or vista

[hoary zodiac]

it was like gold

[fresh timber]

Fix stability, stop eating my ram, and stop forcing Microsoft updates

[wary fjord]

7 sp3 ❤️

[hoary zodiac]

10 and vista are tolerable

[wise wigeon]

i swapped between vista and xp often on this craptop i got from my uncle

[wary fjord]

jk 7 end in sp2 i think

[hoary zodiac]

11 makes me want to die

[fresh timber]

Unironically windows hyperv is nice

[wise wigeon]

thought it did have a sp3 or was that xp

[dense locust]

Windows is really stable it’s the drivers that are the issue
At least that’s according to some Microsoft dev YouTube channel

[hoary zodiac]

that is absolutely not true

[wise wigeon]

i mean in general I dont have that many windows issues

[fresh timber]

But Linux also has drivers

[hoary zodiac]

Windows 11 24H2 is proof

[fresh timber]

:0

[dense locust]

Has safe mode ever let you down

[wise wigeon]

but when it borks it borks

[wary fjord]

that was exp

[pseudo patrol]

dayum they selling 4060 cheaper than my 3070ti

at best buy

[dense locust]

Ah yeah 8gb if vram

Love to see it

[fresh timber]

After 10 days my server has speed and stability problems on windows, on Linux on same hardware, doing the same task, it took 30days

[pseudo patrol]

[wary fjord]

i dont understand people who uses windows as server

[fresh timber]

I just played on a 8gb card, it really isn’t bad

[hoary zodiac]

that's the main issue really

[fresh timber]

I got lazy ngl and didn’t feel like reinstalling proxmox lol

[hoary zodiac]

if microsoft would keep their hands off

or actually test their updates

[pseudo patrol]

ye my card is a 8gb card its not bad if you run high graphic games at mid/low

[wary fjord]

maybe if they host asp website i can deal with windows server

[hoary zodiac]

it'd be a lot better

[wary fjord]

but node and php on windows server

is weird

[mortal grail]

The bigger problem is it costs more than the all way superior 6700XT

[hoary zodiac]

like the Windows NT kernel is solid

[pseudo patrol]

but vram is important on new games

[hoary zodiac]

the foundation is solid

[mortal grail]

Big sadge

[dense locust]

Only 4gb off from 4090 performance

[hoary zodiac]

but what microsoft is doing with it is annoying as hell

[mortal grail]

Frame gen really came in clutch there

[wise wigeon]

@mortal grail think i'm good to pretty much follow this for my 9800x3d? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOYYHNGlLs&list=LL&index=8&t=354s

[fresh timber]

Name a big new game, I bet I can make gpu raster a problem before vram

[mortal grail]

Lmfao

[mortal grail]

Somewhat

[wary fjord]

5070 looks accurate the leaf now so realistic it block the lense of the camera

[mortal grail]

A quick and dirty pbo2 sure

[devout forum]

That was to be expected

[mortal grail]

Full on pbo2 you'd wanna talk in #overclocking

[devout forum]

Anything over 750 and it's just a bad product

[wary fjord]

bots script: "if on stock then buy else refresh"

[devout forum]

Even at 750 the value proposition is questionable

[fresh timber]

Pbo made my system shut off until I swapped psu lolllll

[wise wigeon]

eh

[mortal grail]

Find it funny that multiple times brands have been caught sneaking the prices up of msrp models

Msrp is a myth in nvidialand now

[pseudo patrol]

they better keep this price the same

[mortal grail]

They won't lol

[pseudo patrol]

only price along the algorithm

[wise wigeon]

not with the new tarriffs

[devout forum]

No shot

[fresh timber]

Why do people buy this trash

[dense locust]

It’s the tariffs guys don’t worry! It’s not their fault!/j

[devout forum]

They're gonna jack it by like a hundred anyway

Because they believe they will get away with it

[mortal grail]

Cos mr jensen said it's a 4090

[pseudo patrol]

thats why im waiting for 60 series lol

[devout forum]

And likely
They will actually get away with it

[mortal grail]

See look, 4090 fps

[lone mango]

More money on the rgb slop killer gaming pc

[mortal grail]

😂

[wary fjord]

haha i love when they chanting about tarrif is being a good thing haha then it turns out its a friendly fire

[devout forum]

Might I introduce you to the 9070 XT?

[fresh timber]

It’s not killer when it’s the same performance as last gen 😭😭

[lone mango]

Must buy new nvidia

[pseudo patrol]

but Ima miss the Rtx video enhance

[wise wigeon]

bro the amount of people in the US that dont know how tarriffs work is staggering

[fresh timber]

Stupidity

[fresh timber]

The company’s pay for it wdym??

[devout forum]

Then might I introduce you to the 4070 Ti Super?

[dense locust]

Companies gunna be charging $2k for 5070 pc

[wary fjord]

ikr i was speechless when someone so sure that the other country paying for it instead of them

[lone mango]

All 5070ti is sold out at my micro center

[devout forum]

Just
There's no sane reason to buy any 50 series cards

[lone mango]

You back

[pseudo patrol]

Now you're talkin

[mortal grail]

Are you sure it's not just non-existent

[dense locust]

I came from 10 series I have an excuse

[pseudo patrol]

i need it

[fresh timber]

Lmfao in another server some dude was having problems with his and my advice was to return that poop gpu and buy something with good drivrtd

[wise wigeon]

just like they thought someone else was paying for the fence i mean wall

[devout forum]

The 5090 is a fire hazard, has gimped perf cuz nGreedAI
5080 is overpriced, rest is trash

[lone mango]

There wre a couple in stock last time I checked

[devout forum]

AMD is the better upgrade path then lol

[lone mango]

So people did buy them

[dense locust]

Too late

[mortal grail]

Those were ai generated

It was really just one

[lone mango]

[fresh timber]

Because they are not educated

[devout forum]

I'm sorry for you Mahiro

[dense locust]

5080 is a good card just overpriced

[fresh timber]

Tbh, slime girls are cute

[pseudo patrol]

I'll wait til 4th july prices

[dense locust]

You know what Linux is good

[fresh timber]

5600x+5080 perfect combo

[fresh timber]

Thank you for agreeing

[devout forum]

Buy used lol

[wise wigeon]

same for the 5070 ti, if it was 650 to 700 amd would have like no ground

[fresh timber]

I’m bored, I want slime girl pfp now

[lone mango]

Did you crank the core slider

[wary fjord]

tarrif on their mind is like protection money you ask on the vendor if they want to sell on your turf or something

[fresh timber]

Byeeeeee

[devout forum]

New pricing sucks

[dense locust]

No cpu bottleneck at all

[fresh timber]

I want that sticker

[wise wigeon]

better be playing 4k lol

[pseudo patrol]

ah true they be upcharging like crazy on the sites

[fresh timber]

Waste

1440p the goat

[dense locust]

I play at 480i

[wise wigeon]

more to minimize the reliance on the cpu

[pseudo patrol]

imagine the person that bought a 5070ti for 1k

[dense locust]

But you get an msi figure! Worth

[wise wigeon]

you forget the multiple people who bought the rog bucket

[fresh timber]

Ngl I’d rather a 5800x3d over a 4k monitor if I was them

[lone mango]

Dang even at the micro center further away from me they all sold ouy

Must purchase nvidia product

[dense locust]

I’d rather upgrade platforms and get a better cpu

[dense locust]

Dunno what cpu to get 9800x3d is nice but I want to do productivity too

[wise wigeon]

am5 is a safe bet for another gen or so

[mortal grail]

My internet goin crazy

I sent that pic like 2 minutes ago

[lone mango]

It can do productivity

[fresh timber]

9950x

Ez

[wise wigeon]

i mean its not bad at productivity, its just worse than its non x3d variant

[devout forum]

5070 Ti can't do 4080 perf right?

At least without MFG

[dense locust]

[fresh timber]

I swore they fixed those issues that made x3d slower in non gaming 😭

[lone mango]

Its just around there

[fresh timber]

Can’t the x3d CPUs run good clock speed now

[wise wigeon]

how do you fix overall lower clock speeds lol

[wise wigeon]

?

[wary fjord]

u can do this then

[mortal grail]

It's pretty close without

[lone mango]

I think its right under thr 4080

[fresh timber]

Static oc like @honest birch

[lone mango]

Couple %

[wise wigeon]

no the 5070ti is basically a 4080/S

[devout forum]

Ah
Too bad they cost 1500 here lol

If they're in stock that is

[mortal grail]

The annoying thing is like, nvidia has like 11 cards in that performance bracket

[wise wigeon]

wins in some scenarios loses in others but its by like 1-3%

[mortal grail]

The 5070Ti is a few % off a 4080

[dense locust]

Can’t do this on Linux natively take that Linux nerds

[mortal grail]

Which is basically there

[wise wigeon]

not much that you can actually buy

[lone mango]

5070ti 4080 and 4080s all in like 5% of each other

[wary fjord]

+1 on windows built in dlss

[lone mango]

Really tight bracket

[mortal grail]

Yeah but it makes remembering which is close to what really annoying

[fresh timber]

I’d rather install the bloat my self ngl

Ima go to sleep

Bye

[devout forum]

Did I say 1500? Scratch that it's more like 2200

[dense locust]

Meanwhile 5070 and 4070 súper are 0% of each other

[fresh timber]

Also do this windows

[wise wigeon]

hungary prices are wack

[lone mango]

Yeah its pretty bad

[fresh timber]

Stop being hungry

[lone mango]

At least like be a few percent faster

[mortal grail]

I reckon they changed drivers around btw, cos spec wise the 5080 is a good notch above the 5070Ti yet somehow they're closer than predicted

[devout forum]

Okay TECHNICALLY the cheapest is available for 1500

[dense locust]

If the trend of being closer and closer continues the 5060 will be worse than the 4060

[mortal grail]

Something they did to yeet the 5070Ti a bit

5070 as well

They both slotted just a little higher than expected

Going off paper spec

[devout forum]

But still

[wise wigeon]

i mean not like spec bumps are linear

[lone mango]

Its gonna be like a 4060 over the 3060 so not a lot at all

[devout forum]

I can get a 4080 for a grand

[lone mango]

Amd will do good in that bracket

[devout forum]

So what's the merit of the 5070 Ti?

[pseudo patrol]

they just copy and pasted the 4070super onto new body for more profits

[dense locust]

You can?

[wise wigeon]

if you get it at an ok price its still decent

[mortal grail]

They aren't, but the refresh nature of the arch makes it very much of that behaviour

[lone mango]

New product

[mortal grail]

I'd need to look at power

[dense locust]

5070ti msrp or nothing

[lone mango]

Nothing

[mortal grail]

I feel like they are running less conservative on the 70 cards

[pseudo patrol]

[dense locust]

Does that 1 star mean someone bought it

[devout forum]

But yeah

[wise wigeon]

its gonna depend on street price of the 9070xt

[devout forum]

At this point, I cannot afford any new nGreedAI cards anymore

So I'm team AMD all the way

[pseudo patrol]

prolly lol

[dense locust]

Amd can still botch the launch

[devout forum]

Thankfully the used market exists

[mortal grail]

Yeah I think I'm right. 7168 vs 6144, yet the 4070S (7168) is virtually the same

[pseudo patrol]

why cant nvidia ever have enough product that'll last past a day

[mortal grail]

The 4070S is much more efficient

[devout forum]

So I COULD get a 4080 for almost reasonable prices

[mortal grail]

Which means the 5070 is just using more than the 30W tdp difference

[wise wigeon]

40 series built different

[devout forum]

To be fair, the 1000 dollar mark is my mental limit on any PC stuff

[mortal grail]

It's likely just using the full tdp

[pseudo patrol]

every single release from Nvidia is like the ps5 launch

[hoary zodiac]

tfw network printing always work

[mortal grail]

So they threw efficiency out the window

[dense locust]

How is 40 series more efficient they use the same node???

[mortal grail]

And gddr7 helped with some bandwidth bottlenecks

[mortal grail]

Cos they didn't yeet the voltage/power

[hoary zodiac]

what should I try printing

hmm

should I try printing a photo

[mortal grail]

In a straight head to head they'd behave the same

[lone mango]

Hahahaha

[dense locust]

Slime girl

[wise wigeon]

dunno how they got the 50 series to have good OCs though that was a surprise

[devout forum]

At this point, node shrinks are going to be less and less awesome

[hoary zodiac]

I don't wanna search that up

[mortal grail]

But irl behaviour the 5070/Ti are being more aggressive with power

[devout forum]

Going from 4N to 3N is gonna yield little benefit more than likely

[mortal grail]

Just better tolerances on the same node

Better signalling

[devout forum]

Considering how advanced a node 4nm already is

[mortal grail]

They had 2 years to rerelease the same arch just rearranged lmao

[dense locust]

I wonder what the actual size of the nodes are

[devout forum]

I'm not sure if we'll ever see large jumps again with a node shrink

[wise wigeon]

i mean...no

[mortal grail]

N4 and N4P are really just the same thing

[devout forum]

At this point
Each transistor is smaller than a virus

[lone mango]

Attention all 5080 owners crank up that core slider

[dense locust]

Nm are a measurement damnit why did you change the definition

[devout forum]

And virus are already super tiny

[hoary zodiac]

Daily linux tip: it's easier to setup your printer as a network printer than trying to install drivers

[wise wigeon]

also like how much are these node shrinks gonna cost is another issue

[hoary zodiac]

it's practically a marketing thing nowadays

[mortal grail]

Interesting thought

[lone mango]

Even not long ago before the change up it was basically a number to show an improvement over the last one

[hoary zodiac]

like intel 14nm+++ is practically the same size as tsmc 7nm iirc

[mortal grail]

If you bought a 2025 manufactured 4070S

Would it clock like a 5070

[devout forum]

Probs not

[dense locust]

But intel bad!

[devout forum]

Cuz the arch is TECHNICALLY different

[mortal grail]

Would likely go above 3GHz tho

Indirect benefit

[devout forum]

P sure Blackwell has tighter tolerances for failures

So no

Unless you get like a PERFECT chip in that 4070S

[lone mango]

Yeah even at that time it was just a number to show an improvement over the thing before it but they made it simpler which i dont mind

[dense locust]

If cpu nm aren’t comparable are cpu clocks even comparable across different manufacturers

[mortal grail]

Heh, sorry, we missed the part were the rops weren't there

[mortal grail]

No

[devout forum]

It's a happy accident /s

[lone mango]

No because of differences in architecture

[dense locust]

Is anything comparable

[mortal grail]

Cos translation code is entirely different

This is why testing is essential

[hoary zodiac]

clock speed is a terrible metric tbh

at least by itself

[mortal grail]

Cos it's easier to see "It does this" instead of a 1 to 1 with too many theoreticals

X86 is a shared agreement but that doesn't mean amd and intel process the same

Nor nvidia for that matter

[dense locust]

Y’all think intel can make a comeback

[hoary zodiac]

yes

core ultra is looking a lot better

[devout forum]

But they'd need to start doing better

[dense locust]

Good because I’d hate for AMD to be the only choice

[hoary zodiac]

it's just mediocre performance wise

[mortal grail]

They have a lot riding on 18A

[devout forum]

Especially on pricing

[hoary zodiac]

like it's good on paper

however 14th gen is cheaper

for practically the same perf

[devout forum]

Like Intel priced Core Ultra like they were still dominating like in the old times

[mortal grail]

Me too tbh, AMD are the quickest of the 3 to jack prices when they know they've won

[lone mango]

Overclock cope goes pretty hard with core ultra

[devout forum]

But they are not
Not even close

[hoary zodiac]

ram cope too

[dense locust]

Haven’t they already

[devout forum]

Arguably they already won

[hoary zodiac]

meanwhile ryzen with 6000mhz still beat them

[lone mango]

Oc cope is huge tho

Ram is like an actual cope

[devout forum]

Zen 5 might have been a bit of a bust

[dense locust]

Intel still wins in productivity don’t they?

[hoary zodiac]

depends

9950x is up there

[devout forum]

But at least it beat Zen 4 which was already ripping Intel a new one

[lone mango]

Ultra 9 wins but not by a whole lot

[devout forum]

The high-end Core Ultra often lost to the 14900K tho

It was a tossup

The main gain was power use decrease

But again
The pricing ruined it all

[lone mango]

Would still do 9950x because it does both really well

[hoary zodiac]

core ultra is a more efficient design

i'm actually pretty impressed by how good it is

that is, until i saw the price tag

like it's a good product

but the price 💀

[dense locust]

My laptop uses a core 7 150u whatever that is

[lone mango]

Oh yeah i never learned their mobile chips yet

Amds mobile naming takes up too much space in my head

[devout forum]

I looked at the price tag and lost all interest tbh

[lone mango]

I didn’t even think about ultra mobile

[devout forum]

155h is still a really good CPU

iGPU is weak tho

Like

A 155H Ultrabook with an EGPU would be a REALLY damn good setup if you want to both work and game

I'd 100% consider it

[lone mango]

I should go to micro center and see 5070 stock but its about to be 2:30

My ass is not being there at 9

[devout forum]

I can just take the laptop for class
Have the eGPU and a nice monitor at work
Plug it in and play whole waiting for deployment

With a desktop at home for off time

[dense locust]

I fully expect the 4071 to sell out in under an hour

[wise wigeon]

jesus the wilds speedruns are crazy already

[dense locust]

Samsung laptop

Hella overpriced

Good thing I got it for cheap

[mortal grail]

Smasnog

[lone mango]

990 evo

[mortal grail]

909 eov

[lone mango]

099 slup voe

Slup

[mortal grail]

Samasonga

[lone mango]

Host memory bugger

Buffer

[jolly warren]

Guys I'm playing cs2 in GTX 1650 Ryzen 5 3550h with 16gb ram hp pavilion but I only get max of 50 fps in game , while other youtubers and other people getting 75-80 fps

Also in GTA V I'm getting 45-50 fps

[dense locust]

https://x.com/SAPPHIRE_Adrian/status/1896973507013304450

Adrian Thompson (@SAPPHIRE_Adrian) on X

Ready to ship to happy customers

X · Mar 4, 2025, 5:18 PM

[elfin mural]

pile of stuff

[hoary zodiac]

lol

Ready to ship to happy customers

Sapphire is probably one of the only vendors that can say that

There's probably more gpus here than there are 5090s

[mortal grail]

Hopefully one of those is mine

[hoary zodiac]

Alfred's gonna steal your gpu

[wise wigeon]

going for the nitro then?

or just a pulse

hmmm wish pulse was 3 8pin

[pseudo raven]

anyone have experience with best buy?

they still do drops like they used to?

[gray kelp]

I suppose its better to wait for AMD Gpus coming out this week than for gtx 50xx?

[lone mango]

[lone mango]

Yea

5060 and 70 doa

[icy ore]

[still sun]

100%

50 series has been the worst launch in their history

[gray kelp]

oh haha

also 50s supply is like nonexistent

[hoary zodiac]

There is a little bit of supply... Which was promptly eliminated by wandering scalpers

[mortal grail]

Thinking about it

[tranquil pebble]

GeForce FX 2.0

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slABqBmoQ9A

steve boldly showing 9070 box

"it's tomorrow"

[mortal grail]

I believe the 9070 XT is in 15 minutes

[elfin mural]

amd is so confident

that they are so brave about edging us all

goddammit amd

[mortal grail]

I am predicting about 949

Which I will preorder if I see that

Then sell the 6900XT for a handy chunk

Use my itx build commission on the 9070 XT

Pay basically nothing

[elfin mural]

free radeon gpu

[mortal grail]

Free gpy

[elfin mural]

shush

[mortal grail]

No u

[elfin mural]

cmon

i wanna watch reviews

why am i so excited lol

[hoary zodiac]

Radians

[elfin mural]

we're in a time where active cooling is needed for a power connector

[mortal grail]

Man

Come onnn

REVIEWS

[dusk knot]

https://youtu.be/qPGDVh_cQb0?si=RwGXErjI1_SStSky

He's on the roof lmao

Thats bad

NgreedAi has officially made the worse gen in history

[elfin mural]

if he gets on the roof

that ain't good

[dusk knot]

I fear for the 60 series

He might have to do a review on a plane

[elfin mural]

lol

wow

the 5070 loses to 4070 super in some cases

what the heck

but it's also just a tad faster than 4070s

[elfin mural]

yeah im anticipating the 5070 to be roasted by the 9070

[dusk knot]

Holy crap.... Just today I have time to go on YouTube but oh my God

[elfin mural]

see

LOL

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-i-am-losing-my-mind-speechless-blank-stare-gif-14377098

[elfin mural]

my educated guess was right

4070 super has 1000 more cudas

so the 5070 can't really beat it

[dusk knot]

Fourteen forty PEE

NgreedAi. You goofy goof

[elfin mural]

5070 is a joke

[dusk knot]

They did give a single whatever this gen

[elfin mural]

a joke people will buy

in large quantities

oh boy

[mortal grail]

Where review

Dammit

I was waiting

[mortal grail]

[elfin mural]

out of stock everywhere

where's the supply, nvidia?

[dusk knot]

One comment said that this card is not even "present proof"

[mortal grail]

I GOTTA WAIT 2 MORE HOURS AAAAAAA

[elfin mural]

2 hours

i'll try my best to distract myself

[mortal grail]

You should watch daniel Owen's vid of the 5070

He showed the "4090 performance"

LMFAO

[dusk knot]

Noooo....

[mortal grail]

Do itttt

[dusk knot]

I'm scared

[mortal grail]

LMAO

[elfin mural]

imma watch it

it's gonna be a bloodbath

[dusk knot]

I think as mods and techies we should all convince newcomers to the server to stay away from the 50 series

[elfin mural]

BAHAHA

DEAD

[dusk knot]

😂

[icy ore]

💀

[dusk knot]

Dead!!!!

How much Vram btw?????

[elfin mural]

out of memory

it only has 12

HALF of 4090

[mortal grail]

I've been saying this just about completely

[dusk knot]

AAAAAaaaaGHGH!!!!!!

[icy ore]

If it isn’t missing ROPs too

[elfin mural]

if it's missing ROPs

the 4070 super will lead it

[mortal grail]

I love how you can see like, 10% of the picture though as it TRIES

[elfin mural]

easily

[mortal grail]

LMFAO

[elfin mural]

no questions asked

[elfin mural]

it tries to pretend to be a 4090

[dusk knot]

I can't even

[icy ore]

9070 embargo lift today?

[mortal grail]

It just looks like a windows 98 screensaver

[elfin mural]

yeah

lifting in 2 hours

[mortal grail]

[icy ore]

Nice

[storm narwhal]

Reviews when

[elfin mural]

nvidia

[mortal grail]

2 hours

[icy ore]

🤞 no fire pls

[elfin mural]

please don't stop giving us comedy

[storm narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/mask-on-optimus-prime-transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-let-them-come-determined-gif-18191502311388634832

[elfin mural]

say 6070 is as fast as 5090

[dusk knot]

9070xt tomorrow?

[mortal grail]

We

[dusk knot]

Today?

[mortal grail]

We just said

JP

[dusk knot]

Oh goodie

[elfin mural]

😭

im dead

[mortal grail]

[elfin mural]

im so dead

[icy ore]

So is it

[elfin mural]

this is beyond hilarious

[dusk knot]

I'm busy, my dude

[elfin mural]

so true

[dusk knot]

Autocorrect

[elfin mural]

ayo that autocorrect was sus for a sec

[dusk knot]

Lol

[mortal grail]

Man good thing we're all mods and no kids are in chat

That was a close one JP

Phew

Crisis averted

[elfin mural]

5070 is DOA

[mortal grail]

Let's all go home

[elfin mural]

if you have half a functioning brain

[mortal grail]

[elfin mural]

you'll see that it's trash

[storm narwhal]

Remeber it was supposed to be 4090 performance?

[elfin mural]

yeah

it dies

dead

[mortal grail]

Every reviewer brought it up LOL

[elfin mural]

100%

[storm narwhal]

3 fps faster than 4070 on great circle

[elfin mural]

nvidia's reputation is being decimated

thank you jensen for the horrible PR

[mortal grail]

Come on AMD

DON'T STUFF THIS UP

I STG

[elfin mural]

amd has NO room to stuff this up

[mortal grail]

THIS IS THE FREE LUNCH

YOU HAVE ONE JOB

[elfin mural]

literally free lunch

[mortal grail]

JUST BE STABLE

[elfin mural]

im gonna laugh

if someone bought a 5070 and complained about

it not being able to max games out

cuz jensen claimed it's a 4090

[mortal grail]

Guarantee there will be reddit posts like this

Rofl

[elfin mural]

oh definitely

[dusk knot]

My phone was trying to frame me.

[elfin mural]

"why my 5070 so slow"

"my 5070 is not running 4k ultra graphics"

then they will hate nvidia

for lying to them

once people feed em the truth

or crash out and get mad

dlss off, but game still crashes

wild

4090 decimates it by 413% in 1% lows

4k supreme settings without dlss and rt in that indiana jones game

1440p now

[dusk knot]

Disgusting

[elfin mural]

bruh, it doesn't even match the 4090 with MFG at 4x

what the hell

this is cyberpunk btw

4k rt overdrive with dlss transformer model at perf preset

on both gpus, except the 4090 is using 2x

[devout forum]

0% chance that happens

[dusk knot]

Wth....frame gen is useless!!!

[devout forum]

It's just gonna be them gobbling up the gaslighting that WILL come from nVidia PR

[dusk knot]

Jensen.....lied?

[elfin mural]

yes

[elfin mural]

straight to our faces

[mortal grail]

He mentioned a really important point at this clip, he brought up that the 5070 has 77ms of latency vs the 52 odd from the 4090

[elfin mural]

it can't even match the freaking 4090

[elfin mural]

LMAO

[mortal grail]

77ms is AWFUL

[devout forum]

"Oh no, you're just playing a game that is blatantly favoring the other manufacturer in these settings!"

[elfin mural]

LOWER FPS AND HIGHER LATENCY

77ms is freaking awful

[devout forum]

Isn't 52 already bad?

[mortal grail]

77ms is noticeable in multiplayer games

[mortal grail]

52 is high but pretty typical

But 77 end to end you feel lag in your game input

[devout forum]

I mean who am I kidding I have ~125ms latency in COD MW3

[mortal grail]

It's like right there

[devout forum]

No wonder I can't get kills

[mortal grail]

That's net lag on top of your pc lag

[devout forum]

It's quite bad

[mortal grail]

Ya ik

I have 200+ regularly

Don't come to aus

Lol

[devout forum]

Tbf net lag averages around ~35-40 normally

So that'd mean like

[mortal grail]

Any games we have are like 10 or less

[devout forum]

90ms PC lag?

That makes no sense tho

[mortal grail]

But any overseas servers we have like 250ms+

[mortal grail]

90ms total

[devout forum]

The game says an average of about 120

And my net averages around 40 at the worst times

So that'd leave 80ms unaccounted for

But I dunno how accurate that is

[dusk knot]

Lmao...........

[mortal grail]

Some 10 for monitor, a few ms for keyboard and mouse

50-60 pc

Probably 10 left cos you have something like an auto dns setting on your net

[devout forum]

But ye 120ms is really not fun

[elfin mural]

i didn't even have to hate on nvidia to wake some people up

this time

[devout forum]

Regularly lose firefights even in spite of getting the drop on them

Now yes
I am rather bad at the game

But there were times when bullets just phased through the enemy when I hit them and they immediately gunned me down

[storm narwhal]

Wait until the game intentionally makes your hitbox bigger cause of how good you are

Oh, wait that's just cod

[elfin mural]

amd

just please make stable drivers

don't fumble it

that's all i hope

[storm narwhal]

They have the chance for a comeback of history

[elfin mural]

yeah

hit nvidia while it's down

literally gonna make amd literal bank if they manage it

[dusk knot]

It is a real shame the 9700xt wouldn't be a real upgrade for me

RIP

Is this the end of PC gaming?

[mortal grail]

Looking like a 40-50% uplift

Vs 3080Ti

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

Not bad

But what about mah RT?

[devout forum]

9070 XT looking damn fine there too

Very much capable of RT to a non-crap level

[dusk knot]

Hmm

[storm narwhal]

I'd love if RT just wasn't a mandate

I liked it more when it was a gimmick you could enable

[fresh timber]

Ngl should be, they mastered rdna for sure

[elfin mural]

we'll see during the embargo

and reviews from buyers

[dusk knot]

New rule…no 5070 in Newegg server

You will have to wear the cone of shame

[elfin mural]

with the 5070 being so mediocre

the laptop version will probably be even worse

[mental yoke]

5069 would be better anyway

[fresh timber]

How much do I have to buy a 5070 for to make it good

Free 99?

[hoary zodiac]

9800GX2

[elfin mural]

for 300 bucks

ig

[hoary zodiac]

👍🏻

[elfin mural]

then it'll look good

or brand it down to 5060ti

[fresh timber]

What if 5070tk was 5070

And the 5070 was 5060

How happy would yall be

[mortal grail]

Like

"This is the best release ever"

[elfin mural]

^

[mortal grail]

Would slip my mouth instead of green barf

[elfin mural]

we'll be telling everyone to buy em

[mortal grail]

It was like that back in 30 series

We were recommending nvidia all the time

[elfin mural]

3060ti was that pipe dream gpu

stock was non existent

[fresh timber]

Back when I was looking for an upgrade I almost got one but 8gb vram? Ew

[elfin mural]

i mean at that time it was enough for all things

but ofc that aged like milk

[mortal grail]

People weren't worried about vram like that at the time lol

[fresh timber]

Somehow I was

I guess I had some brain cells

[elfin mural]

no one expected games to suddenly be this hopelessly badly made

[mortal grail]

Back then the 3080 10gb could do a lot at 4K

[fresh timber]

I used my logic, why does 3060 have more? That’s stupid I’ll just buy another AMD gpu

[mortal grail]

Pretty huge difference

[balmy solstice]

I wish games were just pause and resume like they used to be

[mortal grail]

Bois is pcpp down for anyone else

I think this launch is about to go insane

Cloudflare giving me messages that pcpp is completely down

[craggy shoal]

One sec Felix I just woke up

I got you bro

PC booting up rn

Stay hyped bro

[tight agate]

Fr, got all my computers on

[mortal grail]

Ohp it came back

[craggy shoal]

Not here in South US

[mortal grail]

U missed it

Slowpoke

[tight agate]

Getting this rx 9070 xt nitro+

[mortal grail]

(thx for checking)

[craggy shoal]

Listen here Australian

(You're welcome)

[mortal grail]

16pin I would suggest a different one

[tight agate]

Listening

[mortal grail]

I'll see you out back

(I bought you a present for your bday)

[mortal grail]

Any not taichi, nitro+ or challenger

16pin is big red flag rn

[tight agate]

Ok

[craggy shoal]

Yeah we'll settle this

(I can't wait to see this gift :)

[mortal grail]

Challenger is not 16 pin but it's the lowest end

[mortal grail]

TASTE MY KNIFE BURYARHHH

[craggy shoal]

:(

[mortal grail]

(I got you this knife set)

(I know you love cooking)

[hoary zodiac]

Sore would like a word

[elfin mural]

apple launched 11th gen ipad

let's see what it's all about