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nocturne merlin
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since its hard to replicate

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and yeah i tried ddu

velvet summit
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honestly just send the video you just sent

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i have no idea what you would call this either

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"most of the screen remains static while a small rectangle of it continues updating"

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"tried reinstalling gpu drivers and different cables/displays and issue persisted"

nocturne merlin
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oml just happened again while scrolling once up on discord 😹

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its different shapes too

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sad cause this gpu performs well above in any benchmark and i also got really lucky with overclocking

velvet summit
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i think they'll get the gist, and if they have a file attachment option, upload the video you sent as well- wait overclocking?

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have you tried resetting to factory to see if the issue persists

nocturne merlin
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when the error happens it's default settings, i just meant i can push it to max in adrenalin and its fine

velvet summit
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if your OC is slightly unstable it is reasonable to expect this to happen

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hmm

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you didn't change any voltages right

nocturne merlin
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yeah, maybe a couple of months ago -50mv underclock but rn no

velvet summit
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hm

nocturne merlin
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also idk if its normal for amd gpus since i didnt have a previous one but my vram is always at max clock

velvet summit
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i think that's normal? i dont monitor mine but i dont think i've ever seen it dip down lmao

nocturne merlin
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alr ill just send it and hope they get it lol

safe cape
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cheaper than igpu laptop šŸ’€

rigid sinew
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i think i have decided to finally build my pc

rancid juniper
rigid sinew
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real question, is 50 series worth it

rigid sinew
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imma be using this pc FOR gaming - i dont really need it for anything other than gaming

safe cape
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also it depends on the price

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if its msrp why not

balmy solstice
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50 series seems to be performing worse than the 40 series

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but come new driver updates and stability, that may change

rigid sinew
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i dont really want this pc to be focused on price, not ridiculously expensive, but im more worried about performance

worn wave
safe cape
rigid sinew
balmy solstice
rigid sinew
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im not tech savvy so i dont know why

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but just from what ive heard

balmy solstice
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nvidia also said that their 5070ti is underperforming in games

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same for their 5080 and 5090 gpus

rigid sinew
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im just worried of getting a overly hyped gpu only for it to suck

balmy solstice
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only the 5070 isn't affected

rancid juniper
balmy solstice
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going for a 7900 series or 40 series might be your best bet atm

rigid sinew
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is it better to stay with 40 series ?

rancid juniper
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dont want to deal with blackscreens + missing specs

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yes

balmy solstice
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yes

rancid juniper
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40 series is fine

balmy solstice
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40 series is gonna get dlss 4 anyway

rigid sinew
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cool cool, any other tips

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im planning to get all of my pc parts by end of may

balmy solstice
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use your newegg motion to get carti to drop šŸ™

rigid sinew
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well i also wanna go for asthetic

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and i want this super expensive keyboard that i saw

proud jackal
balmy solstice
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save for the best of what you want

proud jackal
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Which

rigid sinew
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its like 350$

balmy solstice
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?

rancid juniper
# rigid sinew cool cool, any other tips
  • if you're going for a fully modular psu make sure to use only the cords provided, do not mix and match
  • i guess its best to go for zen 5 (Ryzen 5 or 7 is more than enough)
  • 32GB DDR5 6000 CL 30 or 6400CL 32 ram for under $100 if you can find
balmy solstice
rigid sinew
proud jackal
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Ew

rigid sinew
velvet summit
balmy solstice
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does that keyboard pour my water for me

proud jackal
rigid sinew
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thats crazy kekw

proud jackal
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I have a wooting

balmy solstice
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in the crib with a wooting

rigid sinew
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its just so pretty

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and i hate 10 key but im so down for this one

safe cape
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SAVE for a good headphone worth 999 %

rigid sinew
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i have a headset - my brother got me this kitty one for my bday like 2 years ago and i only used it like twice but it was super good

balmy solstice
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or surround speakers

rigid sinew
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that might be good

balmy solstice
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if you like it i love it

rancid juniper
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please don't go for something stupid expensive tho

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lmfao

rigid sinew
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lmaooo nah i wont

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the only thing i really want rn is this keyboard

rancid juniper
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alr

rigid sinew
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everything else, im cool with going cheaper if needed

safe cape
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i mean a good hifi headphone 150$-250$

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just my opinion

balmy solstice
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1 good headset 1 temu headset

rancid juniper
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lol

proud jackal
mortal grail
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Yes I told them to try a different monitor to verify the behaviour

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"Vram or core death"

proud jackal
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@mortal grail you didn't make February ban quota

mortal grail
rancid juniper
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average mod convo

mortal grail
rancid juniper
mortal grail
rancid juniper
mortal grail
proud jackal
mortal grail
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Why does it ask for my bank details?

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This feels odd

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Did you notice anything to do with the bank account when you signed up?

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All I have in mine is 30000 theocoin tho

velvet summit
rigid sinew
verbal minnow
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Lwk the new 9070 series kinda butt

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Think bout it bc amd entices us by performing better than the competition at an affordable price but they’re not performing better than the competition this time

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N this generation there’s barely any jump in performance they’re doing worse than nvidia’s low end

sweet phoenix
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Almost everything is pointing towards 7900xtx performance

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At $600-700 that's far better value than any 50 series gpu, not even including tarrifs and how impossible it is to get one.

Prices could still go higher on 9000 series, who knows. But wait for the official release before passing judgement....

sweet phoenix
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Nvidia doesn't even have a low end yet

elfin mural
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nvidia doesn't even have a low end rn

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anyway

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don't panic, just an analytic video

verbal minnow
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As said by amd themselves

elfin mural
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what matters is the pricing

verbal minnow
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5070 series is basically their low end

elfin mural
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the low end is relative

verbal minnow
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I wouldn’t care lwk if they js dropped another card bc their high end their best of the best isn’t beating the 70 series

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And isn’t touching the 4080

elfin mural
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if your goal is to run all games at ultra settings at 1440p+

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then 5070 is not gonna be sufficient

sweet phoenix
elfin mural
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but if we speak objectively, low end would be 50 tier

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something like a 4050

sweet phoenix
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The 5070 ti is $750 msrp

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And it's nearly impossible to find under $900

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Low end?

elfin mural
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70 series is mid end

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Sorry, tier

verbal minnow
devout forum
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NGL

sweet phoenix
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Everything I've seen shows the 5070 ti<4080

verbal minnow
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ATM it is basically their low end

devout forum
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The 5070 Ti should be evaluated as a firmly high-end card at this point

elfin mural
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And 7900XTX was merely a 4080S competitor

sweet phoenix
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And the xtx is slightly better than a 4080

elfin mural
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The 9070XT is supposed to be a 7900XT replacement

verbal minnow
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All I see is 4080> 5070 ti

sweet phoenix
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Yes

elfin mural
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AMD doesn't wanna fight with the high end of Nvidia

sweet phoenix
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That is what i just said?

elfin mural
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They are aiming for mid-high

verbal minnow
elfin mural
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It doesn't make AMD the bad option

sweet phoenix
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Xtx is a few % better than the 4080 in raw perf

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So the 5070 ti is not better than an xtx

elfin mural
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Look at the graphs AMD pulled up, they're replacing the 7900 GRE with these GPUs for the same supposed MSRP

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9070XT is about 35% faster than the GRE according to the presentation

sweet phoenix
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If 9070xt sells for near msrp, it is 10000% a better choice than any 50 series gpu

verbal minnow
elfin mural
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That is bad for you

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But for most buyers? Nah, this is beneficial

devout forum
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9070 XT IS budget high end

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It's a 4k capable card
Perfect for 1440p high refresh rate

elfin mural
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I don't wanna fully believe companies in their graphs and statistics, but most people buy gpus below 600 bucks

verbal minnow
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Budget compared to the low end currently
But what about the high end options and the higher tiers that aren’t being met tho

devout forum
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And it's 150 dollars less MSRP
And I have some reason to believe you'll actually be able to buy it for that much

verbal minnow
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That’s what I’m saying

elfin mural
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You're thinking 70ti class is low end?

verbal minnow
elfin mural
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Heck nah

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It's far from it

devout forum
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70 Ti is HIGH end

elfin mural
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Like I mentioned

sweet phoenix
devout forum
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In terms of what people pay for a GPU
It's objectively high ebd

sweet phoenix
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Low end is entry level for gaming

elfin mural
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Your standard is distorted by the analogy of that the card must be able to run 1440p ultra settings

sweet phoenix
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The 3060 is considered low end

elfin mural
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Low end is entry level

velvet summit
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huh that's interesting
tractors have a seperate left and right brake pedal

sweet phoenix
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The 4060 ti and 4070 might be considered the high end of low end

devout forum
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My 6700 XT is bordering low end at this point

elfin mural
sweet phoenix
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Imo 4070 is the starting point for mid end

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But 5070 ti? low end? Hell nah

verbal minnow
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It’s the lowest option in nvidia’s arsenal. For this generation id say its like low end

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ATM

devout forum
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Doesn't matter

elfin mural
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that doesn't make it low end..

devout forum
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It's not all nGreedAI

elfin mural
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my brain is hurting

sweet phoenix
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Just because it's their current cheapest gpu doesn't mean it's low end

verbal minnow
devout forum
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It's still objectively wrong th0

sweet phoenix
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You need to define what you mean by "low end"

devout forum
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Nvidia is actively making like 50 dollar GPUs

verbal minnow
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Thats a low end gpu for this market of games now like the 4070 ti being low end isn’t crazy with how games now games are becoming more demanding

devout forum
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They're just NOT advertised because they are awful

sweet phoenix
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A 980 ti can still run almost any game

velvet summit
# elfin mural it allows for easy turning without a big turning radius i'd assume

yes but technically not the actual thing
it apparently is because tractors are more rear heavy (since those are the drive wheels and need to grip the soil) so if you have something more heavy attached to the rear hitch, it may cause there to be not enough weight on the front wheels to be able to steer (especially on soil) so the brakes allow you to turn instead of having the front wheels be turned all the way and you still go straight forwards lmao

sweet phoenix
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The 4070 ti can EASILY run 1440p high-ultra settings

devout forum
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I don't think you have reference to what's what at this point

sweet phoenix
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What are you on about calling it low end

elfin mural
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it isn't

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in what part does a 70ti tier card equal to low end?

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just set your expectations realistic

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i think he's telling us that ultra settings is the minimum

devout forum
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I would consider ANY GPU that can reach 1440p60fps at any setting to be midrange

elfin mural
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that's how im seeing this

devout forum
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Even if it's all lowest settings

sweet phoenix
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1080p 120fps low settings is entry level in my opinion

elfin mural
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yeah

devout forum
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Do we have the copypasta why ultra settings are dumb?

sweet phoenix
elfin mural
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i have a 4050 so that means i got a pure potato of a gpu then

sweet phoenix
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Don't get me wrong, I dont like amd or nvidia as companies

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And there's still 100% a chance the 9070xt is a flop

devout forum
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In my mind
Anything 1440p60fps at maxed out settings is high end

sweet phoenix
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But your standards are absurd

elfin mural
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i also don't like amd or nvidia as companies

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amd could've easily priced it even lower if they wished

verbal minnow
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For the line rn that’s like low end and amd isn’t putting anything out there for real 4K unlike last gen where the 5080 and 5090 and even 4090 and possibly 4080 could still gap the card n I think for that reason the generation is gonna flop lwk

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Bc I js don’t see it giving the other side

devout forum
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Define "real 4k" please

elfin mural
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you kept circling into the same thing again and again

devout forum
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Foxy lemme cook

elfin mural
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so by that logic, the 5080 was a low end gpu because the 5070ti wasn't out yet

verbal minnow
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7900 series was providing that 4K experience at affordable costs while competing w the mid to high end 4080 cards

elfin mural
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because the 5090 and 5080 came out first

verbal minnow
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Wait nvm

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Nvm

elfin mural
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i see the flaw in this lol

devout forum
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@verbal minnow just
Please define "real 4k" for me

elfin mural
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you're even confusing yourself

sweet phoenix
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And the 9070xt will certainly be 4k capable

devout forum
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Guys lemme cook

elfin mural
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to call a 70ti class card low end is silly

verbal minnow
devout forum
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That's verifiably untrue

elfin mural
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Define adequate

sweet phoenix
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You really need to figure out what low end means

elfin mural
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What does it mean to you to run a game adequately on a gpu?

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How many FPS, what settings?

devout forum
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I mean yeah, what Foxy said

icy ore
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3 low

sweet phoenix
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And judging an entire generation of gpus based on 4k performance that you haven't even seen yet is odd

devout forum
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What's "adequate"

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As in framerate and settings of course

verbal minnow
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60 minimum 4K for its price range which that card could do and it was not only that it’s competing with its competitors

devout forum
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7700XT can do 4k60 at medium-high optimized settings

verbal minnow
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AMD is not competing with its competitors at all

elfin mural
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You are dodging our questions

sweet phoenix
verbal minnow
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I js answered wym

sweet phoenix
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If anyone isn't its nvidia

elfin mural
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60 minimum 4k

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Define minimum

devout forum
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You literally just ignored my point

elfin mural
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Low settings?

verbal minnow
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Minimum fps

sweet phoenix
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5070 ti at $750 with it selling for $1200 plus with tarrifs and stock issues puts the 9070xt at $650-750 FAR better than anything nvidia has to offer

elfin mural
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I'll assume you're talking about ultra settings

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Because you referenced to games being wildly heavy to run

verbal minnow
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Low for the price range of that series wasn’t crazy

devout forum
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That a 7700XT can very much do what you talk about (4k 60fps at medium-high optimized settings)

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Because ultra settings are idiotic

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TAA is the perfect example

sweet phoenix
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I like how we're ignoring the fact that nvidia isn't even attempting to fix their shortage

devout forum
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TAA is the "ultra setting" and it's absolutely horrible

elfin mural
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5070ti is easily 1k rn

verbal minnow
sweet phoenix
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Theyre directing 90% of their silicon to the workstation lineup

devout forum
elfin mural
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wha

elfin mural
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Not competing? Just because it's 2% behind?

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Get real

devout forum
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They're withholding GPUs even harder because it being not available makes them more money

sweet phoenix
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The 5070 is going to be slapped around by the 9070xt lmfao

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The 4070 was 30% worse than a 4070 ti

elfin mural
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Let me remind you of something

verbal minnow
elfin mural
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5070 only has a little bit more cuda than 4070

sweet phoenix
devout forum
elfin mural
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The 9070XT will slap it across a field and two

sweet phoenix
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You're saying four conflicting things and ignoring everything being said

elfin mural
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4070 Super has 1k more cudas than the 5070

verbal minnow
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Ray tracing

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Dlsss

devout forum
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The 9070 XT will go Dwayne Johnson on ghe 5070 for value

sweet phoenix
elfin mural
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The AMD also has rt

sweet phoenix
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Moving the goal post and completely inaccurate

devout forum
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FSR 4 is coming with it

elfin mural
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Man this is entertaining

devout forum
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You have zero actual argument it seems

verbal minnow
sweet phoenix
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He just wants a reason to not like 9000 series lmfao

sweet phoenix
verbal minnow
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Their comparison showed it directly doing far worse šŸ˜‚

devout forum
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Which is just sad as it only proves how overpowered nVidia marketing is

elfin mural
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I hate all big companies and I enjoy thrashing them all

sweet phoenix
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So yes you're right, it loses to the 5070 ti in rtx

elfin mural
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So this isn't shilling at all, just to be clear

devout forum
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By what, 4-5%

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IT COSTS 40% LESS

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Do I need to rent a billboard to get you to notice that?

sweet phoenix
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Until nvidias pricing is fixed it's not even a competition, unless amds pricing gets just as bad

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And PLEASE stop glorifying 50 series

sweet phoenix
elfin mural
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Nvidia apologists will find a reason to hate AMD no matter what

devout forum
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@verbal minnow do you want to pay 40% more money for 5% more performance?

sweet phoenix
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And dog crap value compared to previous generations price/perf gains

elfin mural
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It's never enough for them

verbal minnow
elfin mural
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And that's not enough to fall into 5070's territory

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The 5070ti has a lot more cuda cores than the 5070

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And it has more vram too, 16gb vs 12

devout forum
sweet phoenix
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5070 will be 25-30% worse

verbal minnow
elfin mural
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lol

devout forum
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They're not

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Not even effing SLIGHTLY

elfin mural
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So you really are gonna pay 40% more for that slight edge?

sweet phoenix
verbal minnow
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If anything wouldn’t amd’s cards price hike since they’re more affordable and more people would buy them?

devout forum
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Point to me to all 4 MSRP 5070 Ti cards please

verbal minnow
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I’m js saying I’m going off of that

sweet phoenix
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Then don't use msrp

devout forum
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You came with MSRP

elfin mural
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The 9070XT might sell like hot cakes if they don't fumble the supply

craggy shoal
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AMD: 9070 XT and 9070 are in low stock because competitor sucks at making GPUs

devout forum
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So

paper verge
craggy shoal
sweet phoenix
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You're making unfair comparisons and moving the goal post repeatedly

verbal minnow
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You compare with how they’re intended šŸ˜‚

sweet phoenix
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You can not like a card. But stop lying about it lmfao

sweet phoenix
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Aight man

verbal minnow
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They’re intended to be at that price šŸ˜‚

sweet phoenix
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I'm going to smoke you gave me a headache

devout forum
elfin mural
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You can't even say how fast a 5070 will be because Nvidia hasn't given any numbers

sweet phoenix
verbal minnow
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Why would u not compare it at that price range

sweet phoenix
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Nvidia is intentionally ignoring the gaming market

devout forum
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BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE FOR IT

sweet phoenix
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They make some 90% of their money from workstation use and AI

devout forum
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MSRP is MEANINGLESS with nGreedAI

sweet phoenix
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They do not give a single crap about the RTX lineup

elfin mural
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At this point I feel like it's a rage bait

verbal minnow
devout forum
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Like effing completely irrelevant

sweet phoenix
sweet phoenix
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MY GUY

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MY GUY

elfin mural
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I'll pull something up rq

sweet phoenix
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The billion dollar corporation does not need you to defend them

verbal minnow
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You js said it 90% is not even gamers only 10% is

verbal minnow
sweet phoenix
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You are though

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And we've shown and told you how multiple times

devout forum
sweet phoenix
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I'm done with this conversation

devout forum
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Just

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Yes or no

sweet phoenix
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There were triple digit 5080s on launch day across the US

devout forum
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Simplest answer

sweet phoenix
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HUNDREDS of gpus on LAUNCH DAY

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WHICH THEY HAD MONTHS TO PREP FOR

devout forum
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No going around in circles

sweet phoenix
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Absolute insanity

elfin mural
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You were flawed with your points

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And you kept ignoring the questions we ask

devout forum
sweet phoenix
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I'm actually done this time

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Bye

verbal minnow
devout forum
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Nope!

sweet phoenix
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LOL

verbal minnow
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That’s bad tho

elfin mural
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See

verbal minnow
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No I don’t support it šŸ˜‚

devout forum
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It's the exact same discussion tho

elfin mural
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He's doing the same thing I pointed out

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lol

verbal minnow
elfin mural
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No point in engaging, let him have his victory or whatever

sweet phoenix
verbal minnow
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In debating 3 people at the same time gng

devout forum
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This is why 50 series MSRP (that according to you is what it's supposed to be evaluated at) is meaningless

sweet phoenix
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Mkay

elfin mural
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You didn't, my guy

verbal minnow
devout forum
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Like ACCORDING TO YOU the fact Nvidia is intentionally making MSRP nothing but a sales point whome jacking the actual prices up is bad

verbal minnow
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And it’s not doing anything for the 5080

elfin mural
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Alright

devout forum
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It's actually competing with said 4080

sweet phoenix
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You keep believing that

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Anyways

elfin mural
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Have fun with that belief

sweet phoenix
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Foxy, how was your weekend?

verbal minnow
craggy shoal
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Nvidia is a morally worse company than Intel rn lol that's crazy

elfin mural
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It's been good

devout forum
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10% performance differenxe for 80% cheaper

elfin mural
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cough

devout forum
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I think that's pretty much competition

verbal minnow
elfin mural
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Nvidia drivers bricking a few blackwell cards

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Missing ROPs

verbal minnow
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You can’t even get a 4080 nm??

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Wym

elfin mural
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I can go all day long about nvidia's woes

devout forum
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What the actual hell are you rambling on about now?

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Since when is a 3090 Ti beating a 9070 XT?

sweet phoenix
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Nvidia is also competing against themselves

elfin mural
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Yeah

sweet phoenix
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5080 is a whole 10% gain over the 4080 super

verbal minnow
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Nvidia is bad bro they’re not doing any better šŸ˜‚ but I’m js saying why are they trying to compete with a 4080 like you’re saying

devout forum
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How much can you get a 4080 for?

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That's right

elfin mural
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Intel Arc is not a discussion here because it is "low end"

devout forum
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WAY TOO MUCH!

sweet phoenix
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And they were focusing on performance at a good price

elfin mural
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tbh intel still needs to work on drivers big time

sweet phoenix
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If you dont like that, that's fine

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Don't buy it

elfin mural
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But we can't refuse to not talk about it

devout forum
sweet phoenix
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But that doesn't make it a bad generation

sweet phoenix
devout forum
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It's better value than anything Nvidia has put into silicon in the last 6 years

verbal minnow
elfin mural
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A high-midrange gpu is not supposed to compete with Nvidia's high end

elfin mural
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I'll just say that and move on

verbal minnow
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Bc they disabled physx i mean

devout forum
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Cuz the 5090 is the fastest GPU available for games

verbal minnow
sweet phoenix
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Just leave it alone guys

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Its enough

craggy shoal
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Walter

devout forum
verbal minnow
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Do u even read what I’m saying

sweet phoenix
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Wait can I time myself out

devout forum
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Like I'm asking out of legitimate concern at this point

elfin mural
#

This reminds me

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50-series GPUs no longer support 32-bit PhysX, so in certain older games its forced to run on the CPU. This video demonstrates how poorly 32-bit PhysX runs without hardware acceleration that not even a 9800X3D can handle it.

Nvidia Drops 32-Bit PhysX Support For The RTX 50 Series: https://tech4gamers.com/nvidia-removed-32-bit-phsyx-support-rtx...

ā–¶ Play video
verbal minnow
#

I’m saying the 90 series can’t be competed with

verbal minnow
elfin mural
#

The absolute crapshow of physx being removed

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I'm not confirming your point, just posting this funny comparison

devout forum
verbal minnow
#

Since when I said the 90 series u said the 90 this generation

devout forum
#

It's never been about the 90 series
Unless your entire argument is that "it doesn't compete with 90 series hence it's bad"

sweet phoenix
#

Blackhole just leave it pls he isn't going to change his way of thinking

elfin mural
verbal minnow
#

I’m js saying

elfin mural
#

if you really wanna cool down

sweet phoenix
#

I was just curious if I had the perms to lol

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I do not

elfin mural
#

lol fair

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okie

verbal minnow
#

The 5080 has no competitors other than like the 5090

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N any additional 5080 cards have no competitors

elfin mural
#

seeing a modern gpu fail at an older game is kinda silly for me to see

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not kinda, very

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a 980ti annihilates it in any old games utilizing physx

verbal minnow
#

Any superior 70 series cards are outperforming amd’s high end

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AMD is not even competing

elfin mural
#

i enjoy older games so this is just hilarious for me

devout forum
#

LMFAO

sweet phoenix
#

Still ignoring the price difference

elfin mural
#

i'll just avoid nvidia from here on because i play old games

craggy shoal
#

AMD doesn't have high-end lol

devout forum
#

Who let lil bro cook?

sweet phoenix
devout forum
#

This stuff ain't gas it's just ass

sweet phoenix
#

Just a different price bracket of high end

verbal minnow
craggy shoal
sweet phoenix
#

100%

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But still delivering fantastic performance for the price

#

Especially considering you cannot get a 50 series gpu anywhere

devout forum
elfin mural
#

the lack of physx is devastating

#

everyone is saying left and right about these gpus, but im honestly happy with a 4050

#

just enjoy what you have, for real

verbal minnow
devout forum
#

Do they have to?

devout forum
#

They're realizing that 90% of buyers aren't spending more than 600 bucks on a GPU

elfin mural
#

if you don't wanna buy something, don't spread flawed information about it

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just don't pay

devout forum
#

So they made a REALLY good card for that price

elfin mural
#

simple as dat

devout forum
#

And it will sell like hotcakes if stock is present

elfin mural
#

if ur unhappy about something time is your best friend

sweet phoenix
elfin mural
#

wait it out

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see what you like

sweet phoenix
#

The last time that happened was the 3060 ti

verbal minnow
elfin mural
#

this debate has been nothing but a circle of confusion

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and im done with it

sweet phoenix
verbal minnow
#

While the low and high end is js nvidia or intel

elfin mural
#

we should stop lol

verbal minnow
#

Bro y’all not getting what im saying ngl šŸ˜‚

elfin mural
#

like all of us rn

devout forum
elfin mural
#

let him have his tiny victory

craggy shoal
#

I just got home after a two-hour drive, just started having lunch and opened Discord to all of this lol

devout forum
#

The 4060 Ti is the best 600 dollar GPU

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As far as I know

sweet phoenix
#

4070 super was $600

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12gb vram gimped it for 4k

elfin mural
#

4070 super would roast 5070 regardless

devout forum
#

That's not "adequate" because VRAM

elfin mural
#

1k extra cuda is not a joke

devout forum
#

So I don't count it

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Gear me out

#

4060 Ti 16GB

verbal minnow
sweet phoenix
#

4070 ti super and 7900xt are the bare minimum id suggest for 4k

devout forum
#

Best 4k GPU for below 600

verbal minnow
#

Nm the price that’s still bad

elfin mural
#

5700xt shouldn't have existed because it didn't compete with nvidia's 2080

sweet phoenix
#

4060 ti 16gb isn't better than a 4070 super for 4k

elfin mural
#

right guys?

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amd should've gone bankrupt

elfin mural
#

they didn't try more

devout forum
#

4070 is weak cuz runs out of VRAM

#

So
To me

verbal minnow
#

5700 xt was competing with nvidia’s second best options šŸ˜‚ they did it right

elfin mural
#

crazy

sweet phoenix
#

2070 super, 2080, 2080 super, and 2080 ti

craggy shoal
#

Wow

devout forum
#

Because I arbitrarily chose
4060 Ti 16gb is best 600 dollar 4k GPU from team green

verbal minnow
sweet phoenix
#

Where tf do you see 5700xt matching their second best

devout forum
#

Now compare the 4060 To to a 9070 XT

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And you see

verbal minnow
#

Compare a 9080 xt to a 5080 exactly bro

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Nothing there

elfin mural
devout forum
#

nGreedAI loses, so they should've been bankrupt

elfin mural
#

the deflection is real

devout forum
#

Man's ego is HURTING

verbal minnow
devout forum
#

So he must BS

devout forum
elfin mural
#

let me recite it for ya

verbal minnow
#

4080 got beat by the 7900 xtx

devout forum
#

Something that costs 1200 dollars?

velvet summit
verbal minnow
#

7900xt*

devout forum
#

Double price, 10% performance gain

Genius

elfin mural
#

you said 9070xt was bad because it didn't compete with the 5080
now you're saying 5700xt was a good call because it didn't compete with the 2080 but the 2070 and 2070s instead

devout forum
#

The self-contradiction is crazy

elfin mural
#

see the connection here?

verbal minnow
#

šŸ˜‚

elfin mural
#

...

devout forum
#

I'm pretty sure that only happens to people who know they're wrong but try to push anyway

verbal minnow
#

The 2080 was the 90 series

elfin mural
#

okay im

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at a loss

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LMAO

verbal minnow
#

2070 was the 80 series now

#

šŸ˜‚

elfin mural
#

this is comedic

devout forum
#

That's rarted

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Like actually mentally handicapped

velvet summit
#

2090 was the titan rtx

devout forum
#

I'm just effing done.

velvet summit
#

šŸ’€

verbal minnow
#

How do you guys not even get this? šŸ˜‚

elfin mural
#

im moving on from this fr

verbal minnow
#

AMD Alw competed w nvidia’s second best graphics card series that’s js common sense

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That’s what I was saying

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5700 xt competing w 2070 super

elfin mural
#

there's no saving this guy

#

he's far too gone

verbal minnow
#

7900 xtx competing w 4080 super

elfin mural
#

delusion 100

devout forum
#

Your version of "common sense" really ain't as common as you think it is

That's all I'm saying

verbal minnow
#

šŸ’€ check benchmarks bro

#

This is common sense

devout forum
#

šŸ’€ mfers when I go ā˜ ļø

elfin mural
#

benchmarks never lie but you are sputtering nonsense

#

im so done

devout forum
#

Cuz your delusions are toxic

verbal minnow
#

Now amd has nothing to compete w nvidia’s second best or best options

elfin mural
#

there's a 2080ti

verbal minnow
#

Ok?

devout forum
#

And a Titan RTX

craggy shoal
devout forum
#

Titan became the 90 series

verbal minnow
#

That is the 90 series

devout forum
#

Or did nobody tell you that?

elfin mural
#

the 5700xt didn't compete with the 2080 so it's a bad gpu

devout forum
#

The 90s are formerly known as Titan

elfin mural
#

let's move back in time

#

RX 500 series

verbal minnow
devout forum
#

The last Titan card was a 20 series one

elfin mural
#

the RX 590 only competed with the 1070

#

and the next best thing nvidia had to give outside of titan was 1080

devout forum
#

With the 30 series Nvidia killed the Titan branding in favor of the 90 series

elfin mural
#

next to 1080ti

cedar compass
#

so amd's next generation gpus will be gt270 and gt270 xt ? kekw

elfin mural
#

amd never really wanted to compete with nvidia's "next best thing"

devout forum
#

AMD has ALWAYS aimed to cater to people on a limited budget

elfin mural
#

because that's just gonna make the cards cost way too much

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for what budget limited buyers can afford

verbal minnow
elfin mural
#

people are gonna complain about a 1.2k radeon gpu

#

if they dare try to compete with the 5090

verbal minnow
#

AMD giving a cheaper option to compete with amd’s former 70 series- current 80 series was the best thing about them and that’s gone now šŸ˜‚

elfin mural
#

amd just doesn't have the mindshare nvidia does

cedar compass
#

Titans had open course drivers isn't it ? or it was quadro ? thonk

elfin mural
#

if it costs that much no one will like it anyway

devout forum
elfin mural
#

and it'll hurt amd in its bottom end

verbal minnow
#

They were advertised for scientific research

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AI

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Workstations

elfin mural
#

didn't they mention dlss for games

devout forum
#

Did you AT ALL see the marketing???

elfin mural
#

and frame generation

devout forum
#

They've pushed DLSS 4 and multi-framegen SO HARD in the 5090 marketing it was half of it

#

So you're the worst kind of shill

verbal minnow
#

Are y’all talking bout titans or 90 series

elfin mural
devout forum
#

5090

elfin mural
#

not a gaming card

#

you said?

verbal minnow
#

I was talking bout titan wtf

elfin mural
#

"bringing game-changing capabilities to gamers and creators"

devout forum
verbal minnow
#

AMD fanboys alw tryna confuse people

#

šŸ˜‚

elfin mural
#

we're not fanboying

verbal minnow
#

Head ahh

devout forum
elfin mural
#

you're finding an excuse to justify 90 series being terrible

verbal minnow
#

šŸ˜‚

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Y’all tryna change it up now

devout forum
elfin mural
#

this was before nvidia even got into ai craze

devout forum
#

Truly beyond redemption at this point

elfin mural
#

they didn't mention AI on anything

#

if we're talking about the last titan

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to ever exist

devout forum
#

Yeah kid's just failing to have an argument and probably clocked out

cedar compass
#

I had titan x or something and it was amazing card for rendering . then I think I moved to 1080

lone mango
verbal minnow
lone mango
#

Last titan came out in 2018

lone mango
verbal minnow
#

Only 90 series cards are positioned as gaming cards

devout forum
elfin mural
#

no AI mentioned

verbal minnow
#

Not titan series

elfin mural
#

they did not mention AI

verbal minnow
elfin mural
#

😭

verbal minnow
#

šŸ˜‚

devout forum
#

You're LITERALLY posting an AI generated line my man

elfin mural
#

and so is a 5090

verbal minnow
#

Bc they said ai in two of the websites

elfin mural
#

a 5090 is a pc graphics card

#

yeah, underline it please

#

prove me wrong

verbal minnow
elfin mural
#

then a titan rtx can game

devout forum
#

You do see this right @verbal minnow

elfin mural
#

even if it's not marketing for it

lone mango
elfin mural
#

pc graphics card

verbal minnow
elfin mural
#

personal computer graphics card

devout forum
#

They're LITERALLY MARKETING IT as a gaming GPU

elfin mural
#

and a personal computer can be used for all purposes

#

you can game on a quadro even if the drivers aren't made for it

lone mango
verbal minnow
#

Computers are a pc

sinful blade
#

What we talkin bout

#

And why

lone mango
#

Hahahaha

verbal minnow
#

90 series and titan series are positioned as 2 different things

lone mango
verbal minnow
#

90 series are positioned as high end gpu’s for gaming

devout forum
#

That's the TLCBATR

sinful blade
#

Same actual concept

#

It’s pretty basic knowledge

elfin mural
#

^

lone mango
devout forum
#

Leave him be man

#

He's beyond saving

elfin mural
#

just saying

verbal minnow
devout forum
#

He doesn't even want to start getting it

elfin mural
#

a titan was marketed as a gaming gpu

sinful blade
elfin mural
#

back in 900 series days

sinful blade
elfin mural
#

let that sink in

devout forum
#

You have only been right ONCE in this entire half an hour or so

#

And even that was for the wrong reasons

verbal minnow
lone mango
#

Titan was a high end card for gaming and workstation use, so is the 90 card

devout forum
#

But hear me out

#

I'll offer you a bet @verbal minnow

elfin mural
#

counter this

#

kepler titan

devout forum
#

I'll offer a bet

cedar compass
#

it looks like samsung killed note series and mixed it with s20 back then . they killed titan and mixed some of its advantages into 90series

devout forum
#

With 10:1 odds

elfin mural
#

"Experience incredible speed and cool, quiet performance in your favorite games on the highest resolution imaginable"

#

Marketing man, it's powerful

verbal minnow
#

Obviously a gaming card and the high end for pc gaming but positioned as an ai card

elfin mural
devout forum
#

If the 9070 XT won't sell like hotcakes at 600
I'm PayPal-ing you a hundred bucks

But if it does, you owe me 10 bucks

elfin mural
#

take a gander

verbal minnow
#

W the newest rtx one

devout forum
#

Yeah no

sinful blade
#

It was positioned as both

devout forum
#

Actually nevermind that'd be too generous to me

sinful blade
#

A gaming and workstation card

#

Mix of both words

lone mango
devout forum
#

I doubt you even have 10 bucks of your own lol

verbal minnow
#

It can do gaming, but mainly put as a workstation card

sinful blade
#

It can do workstation, and also gaming at a high end

elfin mural
#

it's in rtx lineup, so you can choose game ready drivers

sinful blade
#

Your argument is flawed in its base concept.

elfin mural
#

like 5090, it has studio and game ready drivers

icy ore
#

When does embargo lift on new amd card

elfin mural
#

and just to make it funnier, nvidia even offers studio drivers for all gpus currently supported

elfin mural
lone mango
elfin mural
#

i'd assume

cedar compass
#

I using my 4090 only for work lol I have 4080 for gaming perfection

elfin mural
#

amd announced availability in 5

icy ore
#

day before smh

#

lol

lone mango
#

Been like that

#

Its also positioned to come out just after the 5070 embargo too

#

So people will see how mid it is and then wait for the amd launch

verbal minnow
lone mango
#

5070 on 3/4

elfin mural
#

titan is a prosumer product

verbal minnow
#

It’s mainly put out there for the gamers

sinful blade
#

The issue you’re running into arguing with us is that your thought process stagnates with anything that doesn’t necessarily conflict with our statements, but doesn’t outright deny it.

You then try to paint a picture with cherry picked samples, that with a slight tweak to the search, can yield the same results, but with gaming instead of workstation.

elfin mural
#

so is 5090

#

if you wanna get a full workstation card, quadro is your choice

verbal minnow
lone mango
sinful blade
elfin mural
#

lol

sinful blade
#

Anyways

verbal minnow
sinful blade
#

Who wanna hear about the Taco Bell I just ordered

elfin mural
#

you can't type up an essay and make him understand if the point is not what he believes in

#

imma step down with a mic drop

elfin mural
verbal minnow
#

The rtx 90 series is positioning itself in a more gaming light

sinful blade
elfin mural
devout forum
#

Rare that I block someone as a techie here
But this is a genuinely block-worthy massacre of my brain cells

elfin mural
#

it fizzled out

verbal minnow
#

Ts wasn’t even what we were originally discussing too what šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

elfin mural
#

also aw

#

no food pics

sinful blade
#

Got 3 5 layer burritos without beans, 2 Doritos tacos, 2 soft tacos, and nachos. Should’ve been $30 but got it all for free cuz I’m a whiny baby when something goes wrong

elfin mural
#

nice

sinful blade
#

Me and the wife’s split it

#

Oh wait, she also got a quesadilla

icy ore
#

I was gonna say that’s a food challenge

elfin mural
#

so they gave you a refund

#

or

rigid sinew
sinful blade
#

They messed up my luxe box like 2 weeks ago

verbal minnow
# elfin mural

So not the 90 series šŸ˜‚js a random card where the first mention for its advertising is directly gaming

rigid sinew
#

i wanna post some cool stuff

sinful blade
#

It was $6

#

And I was like, yo, Taco Bell support what’s up

elfin mural
#

bro you wanna keep engaging despite me losing interest

verbal minnow
#

When compared to the titan series where its main mentions are for workstation ai

elfin mural
#

leave me be and find a better hobby

sinful blade
#

They said ā€œhere’s a $30 coupon for your lossā€

verbal minnow
elfin mural
#

im not anymore

verbal minnow
#

Ight

sinful blade
rigid sinew
elfin mural
#

all im asking is for you to not talk about it

sinful blade
#

It’s gonna be bad, but it’s a picture at least

velvet summit
#

inb4 emachines desktop

elfin mural
#

not often someone makes dual core cpu content these days

#

(because there's no good content about em anyway)

craggy shoal
#

Just give me a 12-core Athlon with some goofy TDP like 27W so I can put it in a server

elfin mural
#

volvo gauges in a tech vid

lone mango
elfin mural
#

feels like a weird crossover

#

the 3000G can't even run war thunder without horrible 1% lows

#

11 fps 1% lows

#

with the oc it's doubled

sweet phoenix
#

And to get people to spend that extra $1000

#

Bros doing nvidias marketing for them

verbal minnow
#

šŸ˜‚

#

They repositioned titan as a 90 series and then marketed it as a gaming centric card

fresh timber
#

WANAN KNOW WHATS FUNNY

#

titan was around 4090 price irrc

proud jackal
fresh timber
#

what happened

#

who got blocked

pliant berry
#

First the dodgers x gura collab and now this

#

Mlb is going full weeb

fresh timber
#

bruh

velvet summit
#

AVERAGE ONE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND NINTY ONE THOUSANTHS OF A SECOND OF LATENCY?!

velvet summit
#

why the hell is cloudflare so high latency for you

fresh timber
#

they are doing maintance

velvet summit
#

well damn

#

0ms for 10.0.0.1

#

šŸ’€

fresh timber
velvet summit
#

wait what the hell

#

why did 10.0.0.1 succeed

#

i'm only using 192.168

#

all my vmware adapters are also that

#

i tried accessing the web address but it didnt go through

craggy shoal
#

That's a class A network lol

velvet summit
#

???

lone mango
velvet summit
#

well, it shouldnt have succeeded theoretically

#

because afaik there shouldnt be any devices using 10.0.0.0/8

#

in my house

lone mango
velvet summit
#

im actually so confused now

craggy shoal
#

do an nslookup lol

#

nslookup 10.0.0.1

lone mango
fresh timber
#

And I have no more Internet

dusk knot
#

🤢

tame wave
#

IHERB up to 25% off your cart with code: NFY1553

gleaming sedge
#

Is a Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini Snow White PC Case for 85 with all parts and good condition a good price?

rancid juniper
#

for the proskater fans

rancid juniper
#

cant wait for new amd drivers in a few days

dusk knot
#

But will you be getting a 9070xt, my son?

fresh timber
#

wifi with out antennas is fun

misty sparrow
rancid juniper
dusk knot
rancid juniper
#

yea

misty sparrow
#

what card is it

rancid juniper
#

RX 7800 XT

frigid stag
#

I don’t want to upgrade but I might have to with this dx12 bs

misty sparrow
#

can I borrow 5% of that processing power?

rancid juniper
misty sparrow
#

okay bet

rancid juniper
#

i see alr thanks

misty sparrow
rancid juniper
misty sparrow
#

These stock images are somehow perfect

rancid juniper
#

they thought out everything

#

bro why she smiling like that?

#

what did the fish do LMFAO

misty sparrow
#

gun go boom

pliant berry
#

umm, what

fresh timber
pliant berry
#

perhaps im not

misty sparrow
#

clearly you’ve never started balatro

fresh timber
#

Rn I’m trying to get my 2nd to connect to my hotspot via usb

dusk knot
#

Overkill

safe cape
#

7 x PCIe 5.0 slot(s) (Seven at x16/x16/x16/x16/x16/x8/x16)

velvet summit
unreal trail
hoary zodiac
#

I AM STEVE šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļø

nocturne flicker
#

Hi Steve 747

fresh timber
deep parcel
dense locust
fresh timber
dense locust
tranquil pebble
tranquil pebble
sinful blade
pseudo patrol
#

I recently awaken my pc from sleep mode and the screen glitched and all the screens say no signal then I tried booting it on a diff hdd and this came up

#

It’s weird

craggy shoal
craggy shoal
rigid sinew
#

peeps peeps

icy ore
#

yuh yuh

rigid sinew
#

i lowkey want a new keyboard

craggy shoal
#

This TV is eye candy wtf

rigid sinew
#

but clicky clacky blue switches

icy ore
#

keychron wit da blu

craggy shoal
rigid sinew
#

i have a keychron but its tenkeyless

#

i want it to sound like a typewriter basically

icy ore
#

there ain't no 10 on a keyboard

#

(/s)

rigid sinew
#

took me a minute to get that joke lolol

fresh timber
#

best stream

rigid sinew
#

i like rgb

icy ore
#

i can imagine the circle keys would get really annoying

#

and cleaning it

#

ew

rigid sinew
#

have you seen the transparent keyboards !!! those are so nice

fresh timber
#

the smallest ill ever go for a keyboard is 75%

sweet phoenix
#

Felix knows keebs pretty well

rigid sinew
#

yeah i had a typewriter keyboard back in the day

#

it got old quick

fresh timber
#

APEX PRO TKL IS THE BEST GAMING KEYBOPARD BESIDSE WOOTING

icy ore
#

i love ceramic keys

craggy shoal
#

If I’m going smaller than 80%, it better come with VIA support

craggy shoal
rigid sinew
#

i have a rosewill keyboard rn

fresh timber
pseudo patrol
#

I think my pc is cooked 😭

rigid sinew
#

i dont know which type but i got it off tt shop for like $12 bucks

#

and then i had the redragon k580

#

and i have the keychron as well

icy ore
#

i had a womier for like 2 years and it finally kinda pooped out on me

rigid sinew
#

whats a womier

icy ore
#

actually typically a really reputable brand

rigid sinew
#

ooooh i just googled it

craggy shoal
#

Don't get Epomaker

fresh timber
#

what wrong with them

rigid sinew
#