general-chat

[wise wigeon]

those are the available ones

[opaque sedge]

That better be bundled with smth

[wise wigeon]

9800x3d

[opaque sedge]

Oh damn

[balmy solstice]

the first one doesnt have the 9800x3d

[wise wigeon]

and a spatium 2 tb ssd for $75

even as a game drive thats cheap

[opaque sedge]

Oh damn

[wise wigeon]

yeah wish these deals were running when i was trying to get an x3d

[wise wigeon]

aint no way it doesnt

[balmy solstice]

just looked

[wise wigeon]

hold up its loading for me

just 5 more minutes

[balmy solstice]

10 minutes later

[wise wigeon]

third party reviews first

[wise wigeon]

weird hmm

think the site is cooked rn because it wont update pries either

ooh god the x670e is ugly

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/X670E-GAMING-PLUS-WIFI

pretty standard looking board for the price

but yeah you get gen 5 pcie

you're basically getting a 180ish board for $110

i probably wouldn't pay 180 for it because its ugly but

at that bundle price

[balmy solstice]

4 ssd slots

[wise wigeon]

aww looks like they removed x3ds

[balmy solstice]

its 110???

[wise wigeon]

it was def there yesterday

but now its only up to 9900x

[wise wigeon]

assuming you got the 9800x3d with it

still a decent price for a 9900x

[wise wigeon]

has like 11 usb too

it was a good price while it lasted

bundles are still a decent deal if you dont have a MC near you

[balmy solstice]

these are still in stock at mc but no mo bundles :<

[wise wigeon]

getting a mobo + a 9900x for the price of a 9800x3d is a win imo

especially if you're also a productivity person

[opaque sedge]

They still have 7800x3d inventory and are trying to sell those more with bundles since the early 9800x3d bundles sold too quickly

They were afraid of their own power

[wise wigeon]

not that the 7800x3d lags behind

plus is draws way less power

[hoary zodiac]

X3Deez

[opaque sedge]

…bro’s become possessed by felix

[balmy solstice]

already got it unfortunately

[wise wigeon]

@opaque sedge but uh yeah i'll have to see the third party numbers and if i can get one sub 750 or 800 i'll go for it

[opaque sedge]

Taking the cake for becoming the silliest techie

[wise wigeon]

but that 800 better be a nice model

and not a bloody tuf card

[opaque sedge]

Sapphire’s pulse has the dreaded 16pin connector

[wise wigeon]

ik

[opaque sedge]

The one very likely to be 8 hundies

[wise wigeon]

i'd argue it scares me more than 50 series

[opaque sedge]

Honestly i’m looking forward to powercolor and xfx more

[wise wigeon]

having it sit in the middle of the heatsink with a 90 degree bend

[hoary zodiac]

you know what would be really funny tho

if it just works perfectly on radeons

[wise wigeon]

you know what they coulda done if they didnt want us to see it

have it on the bottom instead

[hoary zodiac]

imagine if 12vhpwr just works

[balmy solstice]

16 pins of power

[wise wigeon]

i mean the likelyhood is high its a 304w card

[hoary zodiac]

that would be the biggest troll of the century

[opaque sedge]

Making me want to study electrical engineering ngl

[hoary zodiac]

that wold be a massive middle finger to nvidia

[hoary zodiac]

same tbh

I'm doing computer & software engineering which

[wise wigeon]

we only saw the one 5080 melt and it probably draws less than the 9070xt in real setting

[hoary zodiac]

has... electronics but not ya know

[opaque sedge]

Didn’t the rumors state oc models are over 350

[hoary zodiac]

not as in depth as an actual electric engineering course

[opaque sedge]

Man i dont even know what to study

[hoary zodiac]

are you first year?

[opaque sedge]

Have so much to juggle thru rn

[hoary zodiac]

or second

[wise wigeon]

and that one 5080 with a sample that small we cant rule out user error

[hoary zodiac]

since you were talking about switching majors

[opaque sedge]

First year level sure…

[hoary zodiac]

oh 💀

[wise wigeon]

especially since people arent gonna say its their fault

[hoary zodiac]

I'm first year first sem

I'm probably the youngest techie

[opaque sedge]

Bro understood immediately

[wise wigeon]

lil baby

https://tenor.com/view/goochi-goochi-goo-cockroach-roach-tickle-gif-18010440422368385365

[tranquil pebble]

feed it some radiation

[wise wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-cringe-gif-17778800

i dont even read the news and somehow i get it

and it makes me sad

[balmy solstice]

its okay

[opaque sedge]

Not even sure what my life is gonna look like dont know the right major, no peace at home, parents are basically insane, mom somehow magically expects me to change her sucky life somehow cuz she’s seen other parents get better lives thru their children apparently extremely stupid take

[balmy solstice]

the world doesnt always have to make us change

[hoary zodiac]

that really sucks

pushing your own skill issue onto your children is really messed up

[median kelp]

uhm what

[balmy solstice]

close and reopen

[median kelp]

it literally is refusing to close

[balmy solstice]

then gimme a cookie

[median kelp]

it's hilarious

[hoary zodiac]

ladies and gentlemen

microsoft windows

[median kelp]

I can't just kill it because I don't have task manager

[balmy solstice]

enable end task with right click

[hoary zodiac]

the os they all said "just works"

[median kelp]

uhhhh is my install broken?

"Microsoft windows is not responding" that is OMINOUS HELLO

[balmy solstice]

go to settings, click "privacy and security" then click "developer settings" then click "end task on right click"

or something similar

[hoary zodiac]

I usually just reboot at that point

[balmy solstice]

beboot

[median kelp]

I legit

in all my years

did not know this was a thing

[hoary zodiac]

windows breaks itself so often these days it's actually really annoying

[median kelp]

I ended the microsoft windows

and nothing happened

[balmy solstice]

its a lot more simple than restarting

[hoary zodiac]

yes but it doesn't work

[median kelp]

I was hoping it would just delete my computer out of its misery or something

[hoary zodiac]

the thing with ending a frozen task

[balmy solstice]

🥔

[hoary zodiac]

sometimes it just doesn't end

no matter how many times you click the end task button

[median kelp]

"Microsoft Windows: The application is not responding. The program may respond again if you wait. Do you want to end this process" and I hit end process and it didn't end windows worldwide

[balmy solstice]

hung programs

yeah atp if its not closing from end task, restart

[balmy solstice]

lies

[wise wigeon]

amd needs to be a lil more conservative

[tranquil pebble]

I have seen the Windows kernel itself hang

[wise wigeon]

i hope the top is true

[opaque sedge]

Huh are the last two japanese brands?

[wise wigeon]

yeston is the anime girl one

[errant swan]

PXYUWG alright

among us time

[opaque sedge]

So either japanese or chinese

[balmy solstice]

flip that psu switch

is that a roomba

[wise wigeon]

chinese iirc

[sinful blade]

That last brand makes the only pink gpus I’ve ever seen

[tranquil pebble]

Bocchi the GPU

[balmy solstice]

the one below pulse?

[sinful blade]

Ye

Good example is their rx580

[tranquil pebble]

fumo transport device

[opaque sedge]

Huh interesting did they partner with them in previous generations

[fresh timber]

I’m doing 1440p 240fps gaming max settings.. on Minecraft

Aaa title btw

[tranquil pebble]

did he died?

[hoary zodiac]

I'm chilling right now in the first week of first sem

but I can't help but feel that I'm gonna get screwed in the rear end in a couple weeks

[wise wigeon]

yes

the glazing is unreal

[deep parcel]

?? what the heck is this lol

[wise wigeon]

thats just the regular prime cooler

its really nothing new

[tranquil pebble]

glazing is only good when it is on donuts

[worthy meteor]

Ngl that card looks like crap

[mortal grail]

Ask it something

[deep parcel]

there is nowhere to type anything lol

[mortal grail]

Lol

Ask it where to type 💀

[deep parcel]

lol

[safe cape]

sometimes i type and the keys doesnt register on my mech keyboard

how to fix this ?

[frigid stag]

Get a better keyboard

[deep parcel]

new keyboard

[worthy meteor]

Not fully actuating or what

[deep parcel]

its probably dust tbh

give your keeb a good blow

[safe cape]

no i click 2-3 times doesnt work

[safe cape]

6 month dust ??? its new

[worthy meteor]

6 months is plenty for dust lol

[wise wigeon]

it looks exactly like their other prime models this gen idk why this guy is glazing it up

[deep parcel]

if you live in a dusty house then ye

[safe cape]

or its just with random brand keyboards ?

i just want to know the cause

[deep parcel]

what brand keyboard is it lol

[safe cape]

g lab

[deep parcel]

could just be bad quality control if its a random brand from amazon

pcb on it could be wack

[safe cape]

otemu switch

[worthy meteor]

Open it up and take a look

[frigid stag]

HE?

[wise wigeon]

huh isnt that like a pretty damn good price in eu?

[frigid stag]

Yea

[safe cape]

?

[opaque sedge]

The 642 is the final total right?

[frigid stag]

Hall effect

[opaque sedge]

If so its a goddamn steal

[wise wigeon]

i assume so

[worthy meteor]

It's decent, prices are prob gonna be good since people are waiting for 9070s

[wise wigeon]

its why they started the game bundles too

[safe cape]

otemu red switch

[frigid stag]

No just gpu shortage hadn’t caught up to eu yet

[deep parcel]

I legit couldnt find anything on this on the internet... I have no clue what happened here

[worthy meteor]

It has been for ages lol

[opaque sedge]

Tmrs are the next big thing rn, he sticks are gonna be more prevalent in controllers under 30 bucks

[worthy meteor]

Prices were higher in UK than US for the longest time

[frigid stag]

Not in eu really

[worthy meteor]

Not even with currency conversion

[frigid stag]

That’s not because of shortage that’s just the default

[worthy meteor]

Straight up more expensive in gbp than usd

[frigid stag]

Also tax is included in prices

[wise wigeon]

I have been seeing people apparently gettting xtx for 900 including VAT

[frigid stag]

Add tax to usd and then compare

[worthy meteor]

Yea stock is getting better

[wise wigeon]

and VAT is way more than US sales tax

[frigid stag]

It’s not it just hasn’t caught up there

[frigid stag]

Ye

[wise wigeon]

like florida has a 6.5%

[worthy meteor]

VAT incl prices were still higher than US post sales tax prices

Prices are good now

[wise wigeon]

I honestly can find a single xtx ubder 930 in the US if you can find one there

the mercs are 1100 now

[worthy meteor]

Yea US stock is still all gone

[wise wigeon]

well no BB i get a lot of notifications

[opaque sedge]

Still a lot of inventory of 7800xts it seems

[wise wigeon]

its just all 1100 XTXs

[worthy meteor]

All the <$1000 xtx restocks sell out pretty quickly afaik

[opaque sedge]

If they dont sell out likely to drop after 9070xt becomes available

[wise wigeon]

thats assuming stock is good

[worthy meteor]

I'm not too optimistic about 9070xt launch stock

[wise wigeon]

if they all get scalped people are gonna panik buy xtx

[wise wigeon]

especially at msrp

[worthy meteor]

Yea

[wise wigeon]

thats why i dont like that "widely available" slide

it better be or you're just making yourself look bad

[worthy meteor]

Too early to tell, my guess is it'll be higher demand than expected again lol

[lone mango]

Would be better without the white lines

[wise wigeon]

i swear if azor makes another bet

[worthy meteor]

I can't wait for another "we didn't know our competitor made a terrible product" excuse

[wise wigeon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/MonsterHunter/comments/1j038cj/this_game_is_destroying_my_pc_xd/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[lone mango]

$15 vs $30
https://a.co/d/4l4ZQ5a
https://a.co/d/efYg8Zv

The $30 enclosure has no a-c adapter but the one half the price does

[balmy solstice]

slot me a slot and call me an m.2

[unreal trail]

💀

[lone mango]

This is crazy

[frigid stag]

No thank u

[lone mango]

Sorry sabrent but I might go with the chinese one

[sour falcon]

HELLO POOKIES

[balmy solstice]

????

[wise wigeon]

ugh i wanna play

[balmy solstice]

watchu wanna play

[dusk knot]

Hnmmmmm

[wise wigeon]

but AMAZON edcided lets just hold this dude's card for 24 hours

[balmy solstice]

get on destiny.....

[wise wigeon]

its just sitting in a distribution center 50 minutes away from me

[lone mango]

Wow thats sad

[frigid stag]

Wtf are these ads

[lone mango]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-dbz-dragonball-dragonball-z-afk-gif-5428789

[hoary zodiac]

test

[wise wigeon]

im tweaking bro

[opaque sedge]

Mr satan was built af for a human ngl

[balmy solstice]

"i likes ya and i wants ya" type ads

[icy ore]

He was

lol

[wise wigeon]

i'm this close to going to walmart an getting a copy of mh wilds

[hoary zodiac]

god damns

[wise wigeon]

for my ps5

[hoary zodiac]

screencap is offset

sjfsjf

[opaque sedge]

Bro was without a doubt downing trenbologne sandwiches

[lone mango]

Bro is replying to my blocked messages

[hoary zodiac]

hello???? discord???

[lone mango]

[opaque sedge]

What bro?

[hoary zodiac]

the screencap is offset

I was trying to cap the time

discord says 2:30am

my system clock says 12:31pm

[wise wigeon]

ngl if i can get a $600 xt

might just buy a new pphone

pixel 8 is 399 at BB new

[dusk knot]

Lol. Regarding the 9000 series

[lone mango]

So you know how people use answer files to debloat windows 11 installs

Could I do this via upgrading or nah

[mortal grail]

Wtf

A snapdragon 8 elite runs as well as a steam deck???

[hoary zodiac]

?

what

[lone mango]

Like if I do the upgrade option can answer files still run or is that only for clean installs

[hoary zodiac]

what is an answer file

is this a windows thing

[lone mango]

Yeah

[balmy solstice]

snapdragon is coming up

[lone mango]

It runs during an installation

[frigid stag]

Exactly idk why people are worried about the 5080 too

[hoary zodiac]

what do you want to do exactly

you can probably just remove the package with your package manager

[balmy solstice]

big qualcom

[hoary zodiac]

see linux lets you delete any package

[wise wigeon]

yeah there was a single 5080 reported to date though

[lone mango]

Basically this guy made a video going over his method and how you can really get rid of anything you want with the file, but it was shown being used during a new installation and not an upgrade

[frigid stag]

Probably user error

[mortal grail]

Holy wtf

It actually does beat a steam deck

WTF

YO

[lone mango]

Yeah true

[wise wigeon]

in this case I agree

[mortal grail]

Ok skipping a steam deck

[wise wigeon]

if its the only one

[lone mango]

Guess I have some more research to do with this answer file stuff

[balmy solstice]

water deck

[frigid stag]

Isn’t there like 5 5090s too

Lol

[balmy solstice]

4

one just sold on ebay for 10k

[frigid stag]

XDDDDDD

[lone mango]

Oh wait what about doing the upgrade with the ltsc iso

That also probably has to be a fresh install too right

[wise wigeon]

is this a surprise

[mortal grail]

Damage shows full insertion:

[hoary zodiac]

hm?

[dusk knot]

Just the ROPs missing should be the only real concern

[mortal grail]

Yes, one is much smaller as a chip than the other

[lone mango]

Yeah because its an arm soc

[hoary zodiac]

I think a windows techie would be able to answer your question better

[frigid stag]

Probably a cable issue idk

[mortal grail]

It's got more multicore than my 6800H

[hoary zodiac]

I haven't used windows in ages

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

Next you'll say "maybe a psu issue" lmfao

[frigid stag]

Wait wasn’t it that guy who melted it on purpose to karma farm

[wise wigeon]

felix....they've had my xtx sitting in a distro an hour away for 24 hours

i'm about to go feral

[frigid stag]

Someone has a list for that btw

[mortal grail]

Who tf would waste money like that

[frigid stag]

Now that you mention it

[opaque sedge]

What does?

[wise wigeon]

you would be surprised

[lone mango]

Or I dont need to do anything if I can fully be on linux by the time 10 goes out

[frigid stag]

Can’t remember

100% sure one guy did it though. He got roasted

[wise wigeon]

remember some people have more money than sense

[frigid stag]

Like the cable

[lone mango]

If the nt sync emulator driver gives me the perf I am looking for then windows is done

[wise wigeon]

oh

i know what you're talking about

[mortal grail]

Oh I know which one you're talking about and it's a 5090 that was hooked up like it was babies first pc

[wise wigeon]

the guy using corsair cables on a evga psu?

[frigid stag]

They’d rather get attention from 1000s of strangers compared to losing money

[mortal grail]

Not this one

[mortal grail]

Snapdragon 8 elite

Like

[frigid stag]

[mortal grail]

Completely

[opaque sedge]

Well duck i told yall my luck with electronics was bad i buy one device and immediately after i do a better option comes out

[frigid stag]

Idk the facts but I think the guy used a lighter or something or damaged it very obviously on purpose so idk if it’s that one

[mortal grail]

Ima get an 8 elite and run emus

[mortal grail]

Did not

[opaque sedge]

I just got the steam deck

[mortal grail]

He mixed psu cables

[wise wigeon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1io6e39/update_heres_another_one/

this guy lel?

what a kneeslapper

[balmy solstice]

holy speed

[mortal grail]

@frigid stag this one right

Mixed cables

5090

[frigid stag]

I think that’s the 5090

[balmy solstice]

room temperature water deck

[wise wigeon]

i mean its fine

[opaque sedge]

I just got it like a couple weeks ago

😭

[wise wigeon]

ik

[opaque sedge]

This always effing happens to me

[mortal grail]

Yea the 5080 on the left was seated correctly

[opaque sedge]

I buy smth and something new and better pops up immediately

[frigid stag]

Who would’ve thought running over 600w wasn’t safe

[lone mango]

I think the snapdragon is only so good because of the node its on

[mortal grail]

Did I say the steam deck was bad no

I said the 8 elite is better

[hoary zodiac]

snapdragondeez

[frigid stag]

It’s kinda funny cause I know someone with a 4090 who said it reaches 750w

[mortal grail]

Very stark difference

[wise wigeon]

but like what are you gonna do buy a spandragon elite phone for over $600?

[frigid stag]

No melted cable though somehow...

[lone mango]

Imagine a 3nm steam deck chip

[opaque sedge]

Extra salt on the wound huh

[mortal grail]

Mine hits 750

750 is the power rail spike reports

[lone mango]

Then the snapdragon gets put back in its place

[mortal grail]

It blips transients sometimes

[hoary zodiac]

i can't stop it now

it's like an infectious disease

I've got a case of deez nuts

[lone mango]

[opaque sedge]

Well ig its kinda on me for getting a near ooutdated device at the start of the year

[mortal grail]

But kinda insane that it's in a phone

I really want one lmao

[wise wigeon]

honestly i just find it weird that the gpu is fine

[opaque sedge]

I’m pinging naht…

[mortal grail]

Cos the problem is the connector

Native 12vhpwr I've said 10 million times is worse

[lone mango]

Oh this is a phone soc I thought this was for laptops

[mortal grail]

The adapters are better

[opaque sedge]

Jk wont

[lone mango]

Nvm thats crazy then

[mortal grail]

Less failing connectors

[wise wigeon]

oh an old psu

[opaque sedge]

Enjoy your nuts boeing

[wise wigeon]

no 12v2x6 native i guess

[mortal grail]

Avoid native as much as possible

[frigid stag]

Wow he got up to 890w on it

[mortal grail]

The less you have of 12vhpwr the better

[frigid stag]

91c damn

[opaque sedge]

What do u think of sapphire adopting the 16 pin for their higher end card

[mortal grail]

I would believe it but as a rail blip otherwise that card won't last

[lone mango]

Thats a good idea

[wise wigeon]

its really on how they implement it

[mortal grail]

Won't last

[frigid stag]

It is water cooled fwiw

[opaque sedge]

I’m more of asking abt the possible reasoning

[wise wigeon]

people already looking to xfx instead because of it

[frigid stag]

And Kryosheet

[opaque sedge]

Like was it to appeal to more consumers or could it be they’re hoping for a nvidia partnership

[hoary zodiac]

I have a sudden urge for snags

[wise wigeon]

i mean who knows, why did asrock make a blower card with a 16 pin

[hoary zodiac]

and burgers

[mortal grail]

That's not the issue

The issue is degrading risk over 1.07v

[balmy solstice]

kryosheet any good?

[mortal grail]

Whether it's subzero or 90C it doesn't matter

You get dielectric migration

[opaque sedge]

Guys is it possible sapphire is hoping for a nvidia partnership?

[frigid stag]

Well he’s wanting a 5090 soon so it probably won’t matter

[wise wigeon]

this, this thing is so cursed

[mortal grail]

Bro is nvidiapilled

[frigid stag]

Next owner’s problem

[mortal grail]

There won't be a next owner if it won't run

Lmfao

[frigid stag]

Lol

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

[wise wigeon]

anyway

[hoary zodiac]

Here's the thing tho

The 9070XT probably won't melt with 12vhpwr

[sour falcon]

Hello (again)

[wise wigeon]

we got any pixel 8 owners here?

[hoary zodiac]

Simply because there's just not that much power going through it

[wise wigeon]

i mean people said that same about the 5080

but there is that 1 isolated case

[worthy meteor]

we shall see how they do load balancing

[hoary zodiac]

I mean it's less likely with a 5080 than a 90

[opaque sedge]

I’m more curious abt why a company in their right mind would adopt that dumpster fire of tech

[nocturne flicker]

Blower cards shall rise again

[wise wigeon]

see i just dont like how its a 90 degree bend on the cable and having it surrounded by heatsink

[hoary zodiac]

I think the problem is how it is used

[mortal grail]

Doubt

[nocturne flicker]

Be prepared for the age of the jet engine gpu

[frigid stag]

Buy one and test it

[sour falcon]

Muahahahahahah

[mortal grail]

Unless they have properly built the balancing on those, it's at risk

[hoary zodiac]

And how the standard is manufactured

[mortal grail]

I'm buying one but not a 12vhpwr one

Screw that

[frigid stag]

Oh you are

[wise wigeon]

yeah sapp lost some customers on this one

[frigid stag]

No sapphire for you then

[mortal grail]

You think I want a second card with 12vhpwr? After all the anxiety the FIRST ONE GAVE ME??

[wise wigeon]

well pulse still exists

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair it's right to be cautious

Even from sapphire

Especially with 12vhpwr

[wise wigeon]

at a 90 degree bend

[frigid stag]

Get a 9000d case

No need for bend

[mortal grail]

I bent mine at the plug 180 degrees man the bend was no issue if you knew to check the pins were seated

But I'm not going through another cablegate

[lone mango]

What which sapphire has a 12vh

[mortal grail]

Screw that crap

[lone mango]

Why would they do that

[mortal grail]

Nutro

Taichi also

[hoary zodiac]

They better be confident

[sour falcon]

Is ur pfp a beamer

[opaque sedge]

I’ve been dying to know

[frigid stag]

Yes sir

[mortal grail]

Ima get a gigabyte 3x8 and call it a day lmao

[opaque sedge]

Goddammit asrock you finally became good

[sour falcon]

I KNEW IT

[wise wigeon]

not as bad as i imagined

still not a fan

[frigid stag]

M3

[sour falcon]

I was gonna say M2 but i-

[hoary zodiac]

They better have tested it extensively

Or else I'd be disappointed

[lone mango]

Oh it comes out that side thats right

We looked at that card a couple days ago

[wise wigeon]

we did

[sour falcon]

E90?

[frigid stag]

Cheese grater

[frigid stag]

F80

[nocturne flicker]

Well yes it isn't a fan. That is the back of the gpu

[sour falcon]

Ah

[lone mango]

Well if it has 3 power rails then it doesnt matter

[wise wigeon]

we'll see

[mortal grail]

Even if they do it correctly I still am not touching it

[wise wigeon]

better safe than sorry

[mortal grail]

3090 Ti, despite done correctly still had melting cases

[wise wigeon]

especially when its ugly this generation

[frigid stag]

??

[mortal grail]

Could care less if it's user error I am taking 8 pin

[frigid stag]

When

[storm narwhal]

You didn't hear?

Where have you been dude

[mortal grail]

Earliest reports that came out of pci sig were 3090 Ti

[frigid stag]

No melting 3090 tis afaik

[mortal grail]

That was before 40 series even launched mate

They existed

Very very few of them

[storm narwhal]

Gn reported on it

But that was already the writing on the wall

That 12vhpwr is not great

[mortal grail]

It was like 3 months before 40 series dropped

[frigid stag]

No melting 3090 tis

[lone mango]

Nah it was just very rare

[storm narwhal]

Ah yes one random youtuber no one knows said it

[wise wigeon]

not sure how i feel yet

[balmy solstice]

hmmm my psu cant run a 9070

[mortal grail]

That's just a thumbnail and you missed everything I just said

[lone mango]

Ewww its glossy

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-a-nice-argument-senator-why-dont-you-back-it-up-with-a-source-gif-26196944

[lone mango]

My ass is not buying a piano black graphics card

[wise wigeon]

i dont like the 8 pins being so deep in

[balmy solstice]

[frigid stag]

Show link where it says they melted

Or some kind of proof

I mean there was this but it’s not 12vvhpwr

[mortal grail]

@frigid stag
https://youtu.be/p48T1Mo9D3Q?si=LRkYCuUk8YTIjpxv

40 series dropped november, this was reported september

3090 Ti did melt.

[lone mango]

Damn dude steve looks a lot different now

Bro needs some sleep

[frigid stag]

Alr let me see the video give me a minute

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-black-funny-i-am-steve-minecraft-movie-minecraft-gif-5160011517617965793

[lone mango]

Let me catch my son watching this

[mortal grail]

💀

[worthy meteor]

found the article I was thinking of
https://wccftech.com/atx-3-0-12vhpwr-gen-5-connector-major-safety-risk-using-adapter-confirms-pci-sig/

but yea, again, this is ~2 weeks before 4090 launch

[mortal grail]

People really forgot that the plugs were reported to have these issues before 40 series??

[hoary zodiac]

selective memory

[mortal grail]

You have to understand my reasoning here. At the time, "user error" wasn't a concept. And my choice is based on that I don't even want user error involved

I want nothing to do with 12vhpwr

As much as possible

[worthy meteor]

also funnily enough load balancing was already an issue they were looking at lmao

[mortal grail]

Yup

[hoary zodiac]

It's funny how with all the hindsight

they still managed to screw up the 50 series

[mortal grail]

The plug is fundamentally mechanically flawed.

Igor's lab has an excellent article on this

[lone mango]

Because they intentionally flawed the design

[wise wigeon]

wilds creator at least is good

[lone mango]

They went from 3 power rails all the way down to 1

[hoary zodiac]

see

[lone mango]

3 to 2 to 1

[hoary zodiac]

here's a better idea

[mortal grail]

It gets worse that they also pushed that envelope to the limit

[mortal grail]

3 years after known issue

[wise wigeon]

the intel pump more power strat

[frigid stag]

Yeah it was an email that they did testing and found under extreme bending or over 40 connection cycles there can be risk of melting

[dense locust]

plug is fine clearly its the users who are at fault

[mortal grail]

Exactly. They went beyond spec with no recourse

[mortal grail]

Yes and the examples used evga 3090 tis

[frigid stag]

No melting 3090tis with consumers somehow though

[mortal grail]

I remember it very well

[opaque sedge]

Bro wtf is this

[hoary zodiac]

if they tested it

and they found a risk

then it is entirely possible that it would happen in a consumer sense

[mortal grail]

They didn't even have working 40 series samples until the last minute

[lone mango]

Yeah its like twofold they increased power draw and reduced power stages

[mortal grail]

There's no way they did that testing without a 3090 ti

[wise wigeon]

people made their palicos look like racoons

[lone mango]

Goes to show that they intentionally did this

[mortal grail]

Like fundamentally impossible

[proud jackal]

https://x.com/monsterhunter/status/1891233707467444628?t=undTgciGBPSdvKZFm1oa0A&s=19&fbclid=IwY2xjawIvWEdleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHVY49zGLbBT7oUSn5UZgbD8E2FqnS2tknbB8K5MU77fEEuwGrooDLAjWuA_aem_GjF5dakWVO-ieOl7m-NV3w

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[frigid stag]

He literally says “in extreme testing conditions” they melted the connector in the testing labs. No melting 3090 tis in the wild though somehow

[frigid stag]

3090 ti has the same power draw as a 4090

[mortal grail]

Doesn't

*5090

[lone mango]

Look Im not tryna defend the 9070 xt 12 pin but I think if they add more power rails its gonna be fine

[mortal grail]

The power behaviour is perfcap power not vrel on 3090 ti

[lone mango]

I still wont buy one

[mortal grail]

Most draw 550+

[wise wigeon]

it doesn't completely remove the risk

[lone mango]

But if someone does it should be ok

[hoary zodiac]

isn't that what the spec is for

to ensure that it can actually handle the load + a bit more

[mortal grail]

The spec is flawed. There's no FoS

[frigid stag]

This is what tpu shows for maximum

[mortal grail]

FE

Not FTW

strix

Tons of them using more

4090 also bounces between 600 and 350W

[wise wigeon]

ftw 3080 had a 450w bios by default

[mortal grail]

Depending on load

[lone mango]

Yeah it does because at most it will draw half of its spec. But the standard is not really much of a standard, still sketchy spec regardless

[dense locust]

i reminded myself of this meme so i made it

[frigid stag]

There’s a 1000w hof bios too

[wise wigeon]

i can only imagine the 3090ti

[mortal grail]

It's closer to a 5090

[lone mango]

Lets see what buildzoid says

If he shows more power rails then we good

[wise wigeon]

eh still dodgy

i would personally prefer 8 pins but you really cant avoid em now with nvidia using em

[lone mango]

Im making an exception (assuming there are more rails) but if its the same thing with amd too then this connector should be avoided at all costs

[mortal grail]

Boop

Not even overclocked

Just factory

[wise wigeon]

I mean my brothers sfx psu didn't have like 4 + cpu/pcie it had like 3 and then a 16 pin to 2x 8 pin

[opaque sedge]

Only to be beaten by the upper mid range next gen

[mortal grail]

Boop

Lol

[frigid stag]

They made sure

[mortal grail]

Used by all of like the 20 people that could get them sure

They were out of stock for AGES

Discontinued very quickly as well

[frigid stag]

Ik like 2 people that have that card. One is ftw

[mortal grail]

I mean you can't write a sitcom any better. 12vhpwr from even before 40 series was a reality, completely busted spec

Zero redundancy then they pull an intel and push that limit harder by removing load balancing

These are the reasons 50 series is catastrophic

[balmy solstice]

i can taste the dust

[mortal grail]

It's mechanically flawed

[lone mango]

@hoary zodiac Not sure what this is

[mortal grail]

No FoS whatsoever

[frigid stag]

Don’t matter only performance does

[hoary zodiac]

what the hell is a inotify

[balmy solstice]

if you say so

[lone mango]

No clue and looking this up isnt giving me anything useful

[hoary zodiac]

KDE bloat moment

[frigid stag]

It’s not my build so i don’t really mind

[mortal grail]

💀

[lone mango]

[frigid stag]

Mines even dustier ironically cause I haven’t cleaned it in a long time

[wise wigeon]

what is it with people and not pluggin their stuff in

[mortal grail]

Repair shops have been saying 12vhpwr has been busted for years, even after the user error bs

[frigid stag]

You don’t want to see the rest of the room 😭

[mortal grail]

This is why 8 pin was so good it was idiot proof

[lone mango]

Man I remember the cages

Such a crazy cope

[hoary zodiac]

that's what the corsair fan and heatsinks on the gpu reminds me of

[mortal grail]

Even MOLEX of all things is built with better redundancy than 12vhpwr

[hoary zodiac]

russian engineering

[balmy solstice]

not all my cpu cable prongs are plugged into my mobo

[lone mango]

[wise wigeon]

why do i get recced some cursed stuff man

[balmy solstice]

???????

32

wait

[wise wigeon]

yeeeaaaah

[hoary zodiac]

70 and 86

[wise wigeon]

great great great grandma aint far off either

[lone mango]

[opaque sedge]

Only one somewhat sensible generation in there

[hoary zodiac]

wait

HOLD UP

17 and 3 days

[wise wigeon]

and it was still at 20

[hoary zodiac]

damn

[balmy solstice]

reminds me of this

[hoary zodiac]

the real question is

[balmy solstice]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3vtd0XS7pe/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[opaque sedge]

Which is why i said somewhat

[hoary zodiac]

was it intentional

[wise wigeon]

i mean you also gotta factor in the extra 9 months

[unreal trail]

[opaque sedge]

Tbh tho in that lady’s time it was prolly financially easy raising a family without high tax bracket wage

[hoary zodiac]

easier

not easy

[frigid stag]

Yes

[hoary zodiac]

although

[lone mango]

Well yeah its a 4060

[hoary zodiac]

86 years would put her around

the post war economic boom

and baby boom

at least when the baby was born

[lone mango]

In fact a 4060 getting that is actually good

[wise wigeon]

well it has a 9800x3d backing it up

[balmy solstice]

wait are they a whole family????

[wise wigeon]

you just noticed?

[lone mango]

At that frame rate not sure if it matters

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/theres-always-room-for-family-family-first-family-is-important-theres-always-time-for-family-household-gif-16055741

[balmy solstice]

yeah, i thought they were just a bunch of random white people who decided to circle a 17yo and her baby

[wise wigeon]

i mean for a 4060 i'd def be a 1080p gamer

[opaque sedge]

Dude look at this crap upscaling on balanced not even quality and still below 60 frames on a mfing 4070super

[lone mango]

Thats why I said it getting about 60 at 1440p on that game is actually nice

Should be 1080p but is actually carrying its own in 1440p

[frigid stag]

It uses over 16gb ram xD

[lone mango]

At least in that example

Surprisingly

Idk maybe you are right about the cpu then

[wise wigeon]

capcom def has a weird diconnect with current fps expectations

its clear they were aiming for a 30 fps target and just let the rest go

[lone mango]

Actually you did say the game is cpu heavy so I think you are right

[opaque sedge]

It aint carrying crap

[dense locust]

is this monster hunter mild?

[dense condor]

If someone would be so kind and check out #windows-ios to help me if possible, id appreciate it

[topaz crown]

Hello @dense condor! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[lone mango]

Do you think 12vh would not have as many problems if the wires were a little thicker

[frigid stag]

Lol so it’s like 2 5090s that melted

[lone mango]

Well like 20 exist worldwide so thats not good

[frigid stag]

At least as of 15th February when this article is from

[opaque sedge]

Indeed with very wild fans defending this crap

“Runs fine for me”

[lone mango]

Itll get worse over time

[dense locust]

there was that one asus one where the pd exploded

[opaque sedge]

“Upgrade ur pc brokie”

[lone mango]

Northridge didnt get a load of 4090s when it first launched

[frigid stag]

Throwback

[opaque sedge]

“Its the beta build release is gonna be better”

Effing fanboys

[lone mango]

He was making all of those videos later on in the 4090s production

[wise wigeon]

people quickly forget how bad world was at launch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDPjcJ50MX0

[dense locust]

monster hunter mild is the most cpu bounded game i have ever played i tried the benchmark

[wise wigeon]

that poor xbone

[frigid stag]

Your cpu is only 4.5ghz?

[wise wigeon]

christ

[wise wigeon]

theyre using a 5600x temporarily

[balmy solstice]

wifi 3????

[frigid stag]

Ah

Is that with hyperthreading on?

[dense locust]

look its an old pc

ok

[opaque sedge]

Ok looks like the fans have always been stupid

[balmy solstice]

uh huh

[lone mango]

Yes you can have more than one, lets say you have a vpn or hamachi or virtual box

Those add virtual adapters

[wise wigeon]

me I expected much of the same, i wish it were better but if i can get it playable then fine

[balmy solstice]

yes i know

[dense locust]

still it is cpu bottlenecked even on a 9800x3d

[balmy solstice]

[frigid stag]

Tf is a ti 84

[lone mango]

Calculator

[wise wigeon]

hmm in the benchmark it went up to 50% in gameplay section

[opaque sedge]

I feel ashamed to know i share DNA with these turds

[balmy solstice]

monkeys all the same

[opaque sedge]

Ok lets not go there 💀

Especially in 2025

[frigid stag]

Yeah

[dense locust]

minecraft can utilize 100% of my 5080

[wise wigeon]

i mean i bought a 3ds xl for MH4U

i'm not much better

[balmy solstice]

valid purchase

valid for valid, i see no cause for concern

[wise wigeon]

though i've heard they got pretendo working on MH4U

[dense locust]

games are releasing with such bad optimization these days even youtubers are starting to notice

[wise wigeon]

so multiplayer is back in play for that at least

i'm excited to see actual prices

a good aib card for sub 700 would be nice

we shall see

[dense locust]

for the 9070xt?

[balmy solstice]

hopefully

[wise wigeon]

if a good looking abd performing xfx or gigabyte model is 700 or under and in stock

i'm down

if it gets to 800 for a nice model then I might just wait for 70 ti to get back

well there is an inoffensive 70 ti

bundle

but still overpaying for that psu

[frigid stag]

You returned xtx?

[wise wigeon]

the xfx yes

the bloody nitro plus is an hour away from me

[frigid stag]

Maybe try go for that

[wise wigeon]

its been sitting there since 10pm yesterday

well unlike the xfx from bestbuy

i do have more time with amazon

well see what i can so in that time

if it is also unobtanium then i'll either stick to the xtx

or get a ti bundle

at least for the price of the xtx i get a spare decent psu

if i cant get a $600 or 700 xt great

i save money that I can either use elsewhere or just keep

this do be enticing though https://www.bestbuy.com/site/google-pixel-8-128gb-unlocked-obsidian/6559236.p?skuId=6559236

but from what i hear the 9 is just better in like every way

[balmy solstice]

expensive

[wise wigeon]

399?

[balmy solstice]

nah the 9

[wise wigeon]

think I saw it for like 600 or 650 but yeah significant jump in price

[balmy solstice]

still less than a samsung phone

(mine was 1k)

[wise wigeon]

the new gimped iphone is 600 too

ugh i wanna play mh so bad

no gpu sucks

[balmy solstice]

you can use my pc

[wise wigeon]

btw anyone playing wilds

make sure you do your brightness calibration correctly

like it completely changes the look in terms of color

[balmy solstice]

especially on an amd gpu

with the wider color ranges

[median kelp]

I'm losing my mind

I updated my GPU driver and now I have coil whine so bad I can hear it in the next room over

Have never had an issue with this GPU before

Maybe it's the power supply? Either way this is some of the loudest coil whine I've ever heard I'm so confused

Like it makes me uncomfortable being in the same room it's like a dog whistle

It stops if I power limit my GPU to 30% power limit. 31% and above it is atrocious

[dense locust]

[balmy solstice]

i might swerve bend that corner woooooah

[median kelp]

I don't know what to do I literally can not play MH wilds like this it's making me go crazy

[dense locust]

what gpu is it

[median kelp]

4090

Zotac Trinity model

I even tried using the lower power bios, nothing

[balmy solstice]

i'd say revert your gpu from a restore point

one from a previous day or few days

[dense locust]

maybe try downgrading the drivers to before the 50 series released

[balmy solstice]

see if that works

[median kelp]

Anyone know how to pull old Nvidia drivers?

I use the Nvidia app usually

[dense locust]

you look for them on the nvidia site

[balmy solstice]

or

restore point

it'll revert your drivers

unless it wasnt done recently

its less risky than doing a driver revert thru nvidia imo

[dense locust]

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/drivers/results/237719/
this should be the last one before 50 series if you cant restore

[balmy solstice]

^

[dense locust]

dec 5

[balmy solstice]

listen to the slime eater

[worthy meteor]

TPU has most of them kept on their site

[median kelp]

Nvidia seems to keep the last 10 on their site

[worthy meteor]

TPU has up to like 2017 lol
https://www.techpowerup.com/download/nvidia-geforce-graphics-drivers/

[median kelp]

I've had my fair share of coil whine over the years

But dog whistle level is crazy

Makes me nauseous running a game

I tried recording it but my phone isn't picking it up

[dense locust]

but you cant hear a dog whistle right?

[median kelp]

My sister even asked what that sound was

[median kelp]

Well no but you get what I mean

[dense locust]

[balmy solstice]

supersonic causes confusion, so makes sense

[median kelp]

I managed to get it on video it's so piercing

New driver didn't fix it

Must just be spontaneous coil whine super bad

[balmy solstice]

is it still within warranty

[median kelp]

It's so bad it makes me want to downgrade to the 1660Ti in my closet

I bought it second hand like 4 days after launch and original buyer ghosted me about receipt

But I've had it installed since November of 2022

Same PSU and everything

[balmy solstice]

interesting

[median kelp]

Yeah nothing has changed

And it only happens when the card is above 85ish watts

You can kinda hear it on camera but it's not conveying how absurd it is

[balmy solstice]

im not listening to that

but i shall imagine it

like a fork on a chalkboard

[dense locust]

i would think my ears are ringing at this point

[median kelp]

It's so insane like I've never seen coil whine like it

I might have to literally throw away my 4090

Go back to my spare 1660Ti

[dense locust]

ill take it

[median kelp]

New driver isn't helping I'm so upset rn

I just wanted to play MH wilds but the coil whine is so bad I can hear it through my headphones at max volume

Is it normal for coil whine to be that loud?

[dense locust]

i guess you were just unlucky

[median kelp]

But I've never heard of GPUs developing coil whine spontaneously after 2+ years???

It wasn't gradual just today bam it's there after driver update

[dense locust]

[median kelp]

Went from 0 to whatever the hell that sound is

[balmy solstice]

hmmm

so you didnt make any changes other than the driver update?

[median kelp]

Nope I just restarted the computer that's it

Now it's doing it on idle without anything open after restarting again

It's so bad my computer is literally ewaste rn

[dense locust]

i mean itll still work

just with an annoying noise

[lone mango]

Bro what

12vh is 16 awg

Damn what a flawed standard

[balmy solstice]

before you do anything too drastic, i'd turn your pc off, unplug the psu and take out your mobo battery, wait 3 minutes, then put it back in

[median kelp]

It's making me literally nauseous to have it on

[balmy solstice]

that'll reset your bios settings

[median kelp]

That sounds like a nightmare

[balmy solstice]

just in case something went amiss with the update

[lone mango]

Just take out the battery and put it back in

[median kelp]

I'd have to literally redo all my under volt settings it'll take hours

[lone mango]

That enough will do it

[dense locust]

oh thats wire gage
why does 12v have 2 pins that do nothing anyways

[balmy solstice]

wait what kinda psu you got

[lone mango]

Nah they all work

6 12v and 6 ground

[dense locust]

no i mean the 4 small wires

2 dont do anything

[lone mango]

Well it used to be useful but now the sense pins are useless

Since there is only one power rail to balance current

[dense locust]

i guess you could say... it doesnt make sense

[median kelp]

https://a.co/d/2zZSE4j

[balmy solstice]

you should have a 1000 watt

850 is for the FE

[dense locust]

[median kelp]

This is what was recommended to me here when I got the 4090

[sweet phoenix]

what gpu is this for?

[balmy solstice]

zotac 4090

[sweet phoenix]

an 850 is fine for a 4090/9800x3d or 13700k build

[dense locust]

they said they undervolt anyways so it prob should be fine

[sweet phoenix]

its definitely fine

[median kelp]

To catch you up my GPU today started coil whining so loudly that my family is complaining from other rooms

[sweet phoenix]

4090/9800x3d is fine on a good quality 750w

ew

[median kelp]

It's never coil whined even slightly before

[balmy solstice]

[median kelp]

And now it's suddenly doing it so loud it's like a human dog whistle

I can legitimately hear it from the floor under me

Idk what to do about it anymore

[dense locust]

Be that guy running a 4090 on a 650w

[median kelp]

I'mma just take the GPU out and pray it's the PSU?

Wait lemme see if it whines if I remove underclock/volt on CPU with XTU

And run prime 95

OH MY GOD

GUYS

ITS THE PSU IT HAS TO BE

Okay wait gimme a second lemme unplug the GPU and try p95 again

But it's whining like this with p95 and GPU at 11% tdp

[opaque sedge]

Found this oldie in photo album kinda wanna replay elden ring again

[median kelp]

My PSU is definitely dying

Okay we don't know for sure let me unplug GPU and run off of integrated

[balmy solstice]

[median kelp]

Why did it wait until I updated my driver it literally tricked me

[balmy solstice]

i knew that psu was sussy

[opaque sedge]

A psu can be dying? I thought its either working or dead

[median kelp]

Also tell me why the 13700K pulls 340 watts without undervolt?

[opaque sedge]

Jesus

[median kelp]

I was always taught PSUs coil whine when they're starting to struggle

[opaque sedge]

Oh interesting

[median kelp]

With undervolt underclock p95 pulls 230 watts

[wise wigeon]

[dense locust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1045452895434321930/1338024020318224425/image0.jpg?ex=67c348b9&is=67c1f739&hm=0fbce8b044305eb669098cf4dd05a10aa45d96d90b66e9146b5fb4f19568848d&=&format=webp&width=1431&height=1365

it was 600

i wasnt even right

[balmy solstice]

pff

[proud jackal]

[wise wigeon]

I mean the Enermax df is an older psu that is multi rail

Ive def had it trip from my 3080

[elfin mural]

better safe than sorry, and bro threw that out of the window

[wise wigeon]

It’s a good psu

But it’s not got the tighter spec recs of new psu

[elfin mural]

it's good to be risk averse

[dense locust]

someone told me to get a rm1000x for my 5080 so thats what i got

[wise wigeon]

I got a rm850x expecting a 5080 but here I am

5080less

[elfin mural]

yeah transients

you gotta account for it

[wise wigeon]

New atx spec accounts for that

[elfin mural]

ofc

[wise wigeon]

Accounts for 200%

[elfin mural]

but i don't feel safe about 600w with a 4090

[wise wigeon]

Oh for sure

850W at least imo

[dense locust]

buy 2 600w psu for your pc build cant be too safe

[wise wigeon]

But there are 750w people

[worn wave]

I agree, but I also think people in this server tend to be a bit too conservative with PSUs

[elfin mural]

850w would be good enough

9800x3d with 5090 is fine

[balmy solstice]

but 600+600=1200

[wise wigeon]

But that 750w is usually a good sfx Corsair

[elfin mural]

if you pair em with 850

[proud jackal]

[elfin mural]

750w is enough but a bit too close for my comfort

[wise wigeon]

And Corsair’s sfx are like apparently crazy

Like crazy good

I mean at least they have 3 8 to 6+2 on their 850w

My brothers psu has 1 pcie 6+2

And a 16 pin to 2x 6+2

[balmy solstice]

the HX1000i is definitely looking tasty

[wise wigeon]

Ngl I debated that 5080 bundle yesterday

[balmy solstice]

i'd nab it

where was it

[wise wigeon]

Wegg

But $260 for a hx1000i still a lil crazy

Even if that’s regular price

[balmy solstice]

theres this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/135587916861?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=711-53200-19255-0&campid=5339052597&toolid=10001&customid=efbaebff24484da696c7d465b33c0d6b

[wise wigeon]

There was a rm850e bundle too

[balmy solstice]

seller has good reviews

[wise wigeon]

At 1100

[wise wigeon]

Nah I’m good

Now that the return period paranoia is gone

I’m content

Rm850x is plenty good