#general-chat

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sinful blade
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Doesn’t AMD have free sync?

velvet summit
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iirc

balmy solstice
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yes

velvet summit
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yes

proud jackal
chrome mirage
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I reassembled my car with multiple extra nuts and bolts

brazen dome
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So is 600 bucks for 9070 xt a good price?

balmy solstice
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you tell me

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its your wallet

dusk knot
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Yes

opaque sedge
balmy solstice
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im still hoping for a pny 5080 but if i can find an msrp 9070xt then imma go for it

cedar compass
balmy solstice
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🐴

cedar compass
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it's benz so there's not much to do anyways

brazen dome
balmy solstice
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it seems like everyone is buying for their friends

brazen dome
chrome mirage
opaque sedge
chrome mirage
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I drove mine without an engine mount for 3 years and without oil for 20 minutes

brazen dome
opaque sedge
frigid stag
balmy solstice
brazen dome
opaque sedge
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Ngl if the 9070xt is great i hope my 4070super borks and i get to cash in my microcenter warranty (DISCLAIMER FOR OBVIOUS REASONS WHY I’M WHOLEHEARTEDLY JOKING)

opaque sedge
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that would be warranty fraud

balmy solstice
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i would

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not illegal if im not caught

brazen dome
opaque sedge
brazen dome
opaque sedge
brazen dome
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The more you buy the more you save!

opaque sedge
opaque sedge
frigid stag
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Enjoy beta testing amd drivers for a few months

brazen dome
opaque sedge
sweet phoenix
frigid stag
sweet phoenix
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Hell 40 series wasn't good either

frigid stag
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Don’t buy on day 1

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Or the first couple months

brazen dome
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So how come amd drives so bad? Are their drivers software dep incompetent or just a skeleton crew?

sweet phoenix
opaque sedge
opaque sedge
frigid stag
sweet phoenix
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Literally every gpu brand has driver issues

brazen dome
opaque sedge
frigid stag
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And I’m sure amd will be able to top nvidia’s mistakes and bs

sweet phoenix
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Rx 500 series and older had major driver issues. 5000 series to a lesser extent

brazen dome
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Yeah but one more than others

frigid stag
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5000 series was the biggest crap show

sweet phoenix
frigid stag
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Polaris was actually usable

sweet phoenix
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40/50 series catch/caught fire

frigid stag
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But rdna 1 complete dogshi

sweet phoenix
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Driver issues killing gpus on 30-50 series

brazen dome
sweet phoenix
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And there's been countless faulty nvidia drivers in the last few years

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I don't love amd

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But nvidia is no better

brazen dome
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So where does amd get their bad rep?

frigid stag
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It is way better

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In comparison

sweet phoenix
opaque sedge
worthy meteor
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5700xt on launch was terrible driver wise

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Constant black screen

frigid stag
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Nvidia messes up occasionally but wow amd makes them look like they’re golden

sweet phoenix
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7000 series had some issues but nowhere near as major as 40 series did around launch

sweet phoenix
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LOLOLOL

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One brand has burning gpus

frigid stag
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Ye like the vapor chamber xtx meme kekw

sweet phoenix
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Figure it out

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This is the "4060 is miles better than a 7600" argument all over again

opaque sedge
# brazen dome So where does amd get their bad rep?

Its really hard to change reputation for a product as expensive as gpus cuz realistically how many people constantly change their cards every generation not a lot i imagine sound minded consumers tend to skip 2-3 generations

worthy meteor
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Hey tbf iirc rx470s or 480s had some issues where they were pulling double what the spec was from the pcie slot lol

brazen dome
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So the gpus get vaporizer? As advertised tho? kekw

frigid stag
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Burn your card or deal with fiverr level software

sweet phoenix
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Lmfao

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Cope

frigid stag
sweet phoenix
frigid stag
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4060 is now where near mid lmaoo

opaque sedge
frigid stag
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Low end garbage

sweet phoenix
worthy meteor
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Anyways now we will have to see how much stock is there for these cards

frigid stag
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50 tier card that’s renamed

sweet phoenix
opaque sedge
sweet phoenix
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So im hoprful

frigid stag
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Mid range is a 7700xt or a 3070

worthy meteor
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Yea hopeful but we'll have to see

balmy solstice
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mideocrity

sweet phoenix
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7700xt is also a good bit better than 3070

frigid stag
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Ye and 4060 isn’t on it

opaque sedge
frigid stag
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It’s low end

brazen dome
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All I can say is i am happy with my 7900 xtx

sweet phoenix
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Oh so the 1080 and 2060 super tier gpus are just garbage right?

opaque sedge
brazen dome
sweet phoenix
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Low end is entry level for 108060fps gaming

opaque sedge
sweet phoenix
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The 4060 is not low end

brazen dome
frigid stag
sweet phoenix
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Aight man

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You keep believing that

worthy meteor
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2060ko was pretty cool, that's about it

frigid stag
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It literally has 0 effect on me. I don’t own any of these cards

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Nor would I buy one

muted stump
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ok, chatgpt says it's good for 1080 streaming

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thanx!

frigid stag
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Chat gpt xD

velvet summit
balmy solstice
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chadgpt fr

opaque sedge
balmy solstice
devout forum
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I'm kinda starting to believe
Maybe this launch won't suck

balmy solstice
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pulse is worth the extra price

frigid stag
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Somehow calling an 8 year old gpu low end is weird

balmy solstice
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except they dont charge extra for their cards mostly so

brazen dome
opaque sedge
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Cuz yk he’s a compooper destructionist

balmy solstice
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sore eggs

frigid stag
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Lol inb4 it’s just an XOC’d 7900gre

balmy solstice
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doesnt even have the vram compression thing that amd was teasing last year

frigid stag
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Give it a few .....months or years it’ll come out

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Probably like a year or so after nvidia releases theirs

balmy solstice
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didnt they already

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their NTC

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and amd has NTD

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and amd's is supposedly supposed to surpass AMD's neural texture compression

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not this decade

devout forum
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I really just want to make a PC build I can use for 1440p for many years to come (and one that I feel happy with)

frigid stag
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Buy high end then

devout forum
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And I'm going autismo over it lol

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I'm trying the impossible of making the high-end horsepower fit into a reasonable budget

frigid stag
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I bought the high end gpu a while ago. Haven’t had any issue playing any game at max settings, and so do most people that bought it

devout forum
frigid stag
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5 years later still balling kekw

devout forum
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Jokes aside

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Probably gonna end up around 2500-3000

frigid stag
devout forum
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9800X3D+4080 ITX build is the goal

frigid stag
opaque sedge
devout forum
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And it's almost achieveable

frigid stag
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Might take you a while to find one in stock

devout forum
frigid stag
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Maybe a bigger psu

devout forum
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I'd prefer not burning my house down

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And SFX kinda doesn't have good price to perf above 850

frigid stag
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It won’t, it’s an overblown YouTube clickbait bs

devout forum
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Even the 850s are pushing it

devout forum
frigid stag
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You can with most gpu’s if you try hard enough

devout forum
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Individual wires of the 12V2×6 go up to like 130 degrees Celsius

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In basically random distribution cases

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And you don't even have to try

frigid stag
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Yeah needs thermalpad on those cables kekw

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Or some kind of cooling

balmy solstice
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blow on it

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that always works

devout forum
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Or maybe just a not fire hazard connector spec?

frigid stag
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5080s fine too

devout forum
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Nope!

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Already melted

frigid stag
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Even more overblown

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Besides theres no other high end gpu for a 3k budget

devout forum
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I mean 50 series is just
Every possible screwup rolled into one

frigid stag
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Unless you overspend on a 5070 ti

devout forum
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Hard skip irregardless of how "overblown clickbait BS" you consider it

sweet phoenix
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The 50 series cable fiasco is completely on nvidia for not making load balancing a thing and just pushing 600w through whatever parts of the cable it decides to go through

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And no, It is not overblown

frigid stag
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I know a guy who has a 4090 and he’s seen 750w power spikes

sweet phoenix
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Even moreso nvidia PROMISED this wouldn't be an issue like with 40 series launch.

frigid stag
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Still works fine

devout forum
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That's not the point???

frigid stag
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2 years later

sweet phoenix
devout forum
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The power spikes isn't the freaking problem

frigid stag
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500w shouldn’t be an issue

sweet phoenix
devout forum
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The problem is that the SPEC ITSELF is fundamentally and irredeemably awful

sweet phoenix
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When it should be balancing the load across the whole cable

frigid stag
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How different is it from the 4090 cable?

devout forum
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12VHPWR and 12V2×6 is just irredeemable

sweet phoenix
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No clue but I know it's not the same issue 40 series had early on

devout forum
worthy meteor
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4090 is more balanced than 5090

sweet phoenix
devout forum
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And even GOOD cables that were considered to not have any issues have already melted

frigid stag
sweet phoenix
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Dude

devout forum
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Yeah when you spend 2 grand on a GPU

sweet phoenix
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How do you shill nvidia so hard you ignore burning gpus

devout forum
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Even a CHANCE of melting my GPU is just inexcusable

sweet phoenix
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Crazy

frigid stag
sweet phoenix
devout forum
frigid stag
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not my fault Amd can’t get their crap together

devout forum
frigid stag
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Nvidia messes up, amd doesn’t miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity

sweet phoenix
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Still ignoring all of the issues nvidia has had

devout forum
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Like WTF kinda announcement did you watch?

worthy meteor
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from ahoc

sweet phoenix
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Absolutely insane

sweet phoenix
frigid stag
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They’re there. It’s just not as big as people are making it out to be

sweet phoenix
worthy meteor
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unless AMD doesn't have stock, AMD is slated to just be winning this generation

frigid stag
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5080 of all cards is way less of an issue

sweet phoenix
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Nope

devout forum
sweet phoenix
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Still burning

devout forum
gentle canyon
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RADEON IS SO BACK

frigid stag
devout forum
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Like

frigid stag
sweet phoenix
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5070 tis are shipping with 5% lower performance than a normal 5070 ti

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Because nvidia has horrible quality control

frigid stag
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What’s the % of 5080s melting?

devout forum
sweet phoenix
worthy meteor
devout forum
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This is an UNACCEPTABLE thing for the sort of prices we are at

sweet phoenix
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Nvidia uses scummy marketing tactics and consistently under delivers

devout forum
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Like just

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Outright inexcusable

sweet phoenix
frigid stag
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Every product has failures. You can’t get 100%. Then again they haven’t messed up that badly in a while since the Evga cards bricking themselves in new world

sweet phoenix
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Remember when they claimed 4090 was 3x a 3090? Or 3060 ti would be far better than a 2080 ti?

frigid stag
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Yea frame gen meme

frigid stag
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Who believes marketing?

devout forum
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You lmfao

sweet phoenix
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My guy

devout forum
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Like actually just

frigid stag
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You’d have to be an actual npc to blindly believe marketing of any company

sweet phoenix
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You can't keep moving the goal post

worthy meteor
devout forum
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This is giving me a headache and pushing me close to moving to like words that shouldn't be used by someone with standing

frigid stag
devout forum
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I really should disengage before I do something monumentally stupid

frigid stag
sweet phoenix
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No gpus design should allow for or to catch fire and or melt

gentle canyon
sweet phoenix
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No amount of user error with a cable should cause that

worthy meteor
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The first spec itself was terrible, the mechanism itself being able to pull power while not correctly plugged in is an design error

devout forum
frigid stag
gentle canyon
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I don't plan on buying an nvidia gpu either

devout forum
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Cuz 12VHPWR has a safety margin of like 1.1

frigid stag
devout forum
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Anything under 2 safety margin is illegal to sell in electronics I'm pretty sure

worthy meteor
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There's also a reviewer that noticed their 4090 connector melted while completely plugged in recently

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forgot who it was

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it keeps working despite the connector melting

devout forum
sweet phoenix
frigid stag
elfin mural
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im waiting for radeon 90 series to get reviewed

gentle canyon
frigid stag
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You’d have to be a brainlet to believe blindly what either company says without third party benchmarks

devout forum
frigid stag
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Wasn’t talking about you

sweet phoenix
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That doesn't change marketing on lies is insane

frigid stag
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Meant the gif

sweet phoenix
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And a crappy marketing tactic

frigid stag
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Most companies do it

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Wasn’t xtx supposed to compete with the 4090.

velvet summit
gentle canyon
elfin mural
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yes but not really

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amd changed course

frigid stag
sweet phoenix
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Not amd

devout forum
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It doesn't matter whether you believe the thing being said in marketing

The thing being said ending up being verifiably false advertising is still false advertising

elfin mural
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9070xt is 5070ti's competitor

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amd claimed that

sweet phoenix
velvet summit
worthy meteor
devout forum
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So
Like
Where's your showing of not being a shill of nGreedAI by making a passing mention of the scummy false advertising and acting like a reasonable adult and taking the easy win of going "Yeah both are bad but we need competition to have any change"

frigid stag
devout forum
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Doesn't matter lmfao

frigid stag
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And yeah like most things it’s overblown, it’s a tiny % of card

devout forum
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You can't even move the goalposts right

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Man this totally sucks

sweet phoenix
frigid stag
elfin mural
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but people really need a 90 tier class perf for games apparently

frigid stag
elfin mural
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nvidia drivers aren't that good recently

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black screens

devout forum
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50 series bricks itself from official Nvidia drivers, your point?

gentle canyon
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atleast they didnt burn themselves to death

elfin mural
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needing ddu every time you update

devout forum
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Man you really have no arguments

opaque sedge
balmy solstice
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blackwell = black screen

worthy meteor
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7900xtx drivers had 0 real issues, vapor chamber issues didn't even do any damage to the cards

devout forum
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Total NPC behavior (which is ironic after your own statement about how people who have faith in PC parts are NPCs or something like that)

worthy meteor
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it was just throttling and they fixed it later on and offered replacements

cedar compass
frigid stag
elfin mural
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meanwhile 5080 melts its own power connector

opaque sedge
sweet phoenix
elfin mural
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and 5070ti is considered at risk

frigid stag
elfin mural
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oh and don't forget missing ROPs

devout forum
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The issue is that your "opinions" (that you 100% unironically presented as facts) are complete trash and it's painful

balmy solstice
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endangered 5070ti???

opaque sedge
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Barely a perf uplift

devout forum
opaque sedge
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There’s no end

devout forum
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The minefield of "Oh boy, I wonder which of the long list of issues is my card affected by!"

frigid stag
elfin mural
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if 90 series turns out great like amd claims

sweet phoenix
elfin mural
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it'd be a tough recc for nvidia for me

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ROPs missing is a big deal

sweet phoenix
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Your friend could be fine today and have a dead gpu tomorrow

devout forum
frigid stag
devout forum
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I'm sorry you're so much of an NPC (by your own words) that you don't notice it

sweet phoenix
elfin mural
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and the ROPs stop disappearing

devout forum
frigid stag
elfin mural
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that's when i'll start looking at nvidia as a recc

sweet phoenix
opaque sedge
worthy meteor
devout forum
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That's so effing perfect Figer

sweet phoenix
frigid stag
devout forum
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OMG

sweet phoenix
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Youre tripping

devout forum
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He's about to say it guys!

opaque sedge
elfin mural
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this guy really is tripping

devout forum
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He's about to do it

elfin mural
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i didn't shill amd even once here

frigid stag
sweet phoenix
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I haven't either

elfin mural
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ik

sweet phoenix
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I've just said nvidia isn't better than amd

frigid stag
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Idk why people think I’m specifically targeting an individual 😭

devout forum
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@frigid stag Several people on this server can attest that I was entirely convinced that AMD would fumble this launch so hard Radeon dies

opaque sedge
sweet phoenix
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And that their gpus are catching fire while amd has not had major issues like that in quite a while

worthy meteor
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idk man if I'm a shill for taking the option that gives more performance for the price then I'm fine with being a shill

sweet phoenix
devout forum
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I'm not an "AMD Reddit shill" or whatever you tried to go to

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I'm a shill for MYSELF

frigid stag
elfin mural
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house fire is extreme but melted gpu power connector is no fun

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god forbid if you buy an asus card

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and it melts

opaque sedge
frigid stag
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Forgetting 9800x3d’s failing?

devout forum
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I want competition that drives down price and drives up performance
Preferably without money sink issues

sweet phoenix
elfin mural
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9800x3d's failure?

sweet phoenix
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Thats what this boils down to lmfao

balmy solstice
elfin mural
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that's not even a known case

devout forum
sweet phoenix
frigid stag
elfin mural
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asrock screwed up

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not even amd's fault

frigid stag
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Not “only on asrock”

elfin mural
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how about intel then?

devout forum
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There was about 40 documented failures
36 was ASRock

elfin mural
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disintregating cpus

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oxidation in the die

sweet phoenix
opaque sedge
frigid stag
worthy meteor
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anyways with the 9800x3d situation there isn't enough info for anything

elfin mural
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you didn't mention more common on asrock

worthy meteor
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can't know if it's mobo issue or not rn

sweet phoenix
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Did you forget about 13th/14th gen?

elfin mural
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all you said before was "9800x3d failures"

balmy solstice
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nvidia cpu? in this day and age???

devout forum
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He definitely already did @sweet phoenix

sweet phoenix
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Which was also much, much more widespread than 9800x3d failure is

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But you do you boo

frigid stag
devout forum
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Shills have a very short memory when it's their preferred brand screwing up
And a very long one if the other one does

elfin mural
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no one here is shilling amd 😭

frigid stag
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Also new bios fixes it for normies who can’t undervolt.

sweet phoenix
frigid stag
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Cool?

worthy meteor
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oh quite fun

elfin mural
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not a lot of people run oc

devout forum
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It's almost like 98% of users don't even enable XMP

frigid stag
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I don’t even run 13th gen

opaque sedge
devout forum
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(in all PCs)

sweet phoenix
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"2060 super is better than a 4060 with ocing"

worthy meteor
elfin mural
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normies don't even know how to turn on xmp

frigid stag
sweet phoenix
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"2080 ti is better than a 3080 with ocing"

wary fjord
frigid stag
devout forum
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I mean you're
A single dude

worthy meteor
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lol

sweet phoenix
opaque sedge
elfin mural
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i noticed you saying amd is trash because your intel cpu when oc'd is faster than it

balmy solstice
elfin mural
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which while true

devout forum
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There's like 7999999999 other people

elfin mural
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is not universally true

devout forum
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Literally accidental diss

sweet phoenix
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Shhhh

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Let it go unnoticed

worthy meteor
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I'm currently using Intel + Nvidia and currently wishing that I didn't get this lol

cedar compass
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what we arguiung ? which company is more sux or something ? kekw

devout forum
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I'm a god tonight

velvet summit
frigid stag
worthy meteor
frigid stag
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17k time spy

sinful blade
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IS BACK

sweet phoenix
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It doesnt change that a 3080 is still better than a 2080 ti

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A 3080 can overclock too lmfao

cedar compass
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all corpos sux . Johny silverhand were always right kekw

elfin mural
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if you oc a 3080 the lead is maintained

sweet phoenix
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Your 2080 ti beating a stock 3080 doesn't mean 2080 ti>3080 like you claimed that day

elfin mural
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it's a moot point

devout forum
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Jeez

balmy solstice
sweet phoenix
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2060s ocing to beat a stock 4060 doesn't mean 2060s>4060

devout forum
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This is giving me a headache

elfin mural
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claiming something oc'd is better than something else that's stock is never a good point

sweet phoenix
devout forum
elfin mural
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it's to make your specific case look special

frigid stag
elfin mural
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but it doesn't make the 2080ti any better than 3080

worthy meteor
sweet phoenix
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Cope

frigid stag
velvet summit
sweet phoenix
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Copium as hell

opaque sedge
elfin mural
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pit them against anything other than non rt gaming

elfin mural
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this is just copium

sweet phoenix
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Doesn't change its better than a 2060 super

opaque sedge
sweet phoenix
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Your opinion of a card is irrelevant to its performance

opaque sedge
cedar compass
velvet summit
opaque sedge
cedar compass
opaque sedge
worthy meteor
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my guy that's total score including CPU, not GPU score, and that's not XOC, that's stock cooler

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XOC gets way better scores on 3080

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I purposefully grabbed a stock cooler score

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XOC is anything non-stock cooler

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can be dice can be normal ice

elfin mural
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this is just silly now

worthy meteor
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I'm using hwbot definitions

elfin mural
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my brain cells are fading

balmy solstice
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im losing the plot

sweet phoenix
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Thats why we were arguing with him

worthy meteor
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hwbot counts dice, ice, phase change, ln2, lhe, etc

devout forum
elfin mural
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you're going around making new points

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im done fr

balmy solstice
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gol d nvidia king of the scalpers

elfin mural
devout forum
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Good for you, can I borrow some?

frigid stag
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That tracks

elfin mural
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well small issue

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they all died

balmy solstice
sinful blade
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OI, goose, chill out

devout forum
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I mean you killed the last one I had so I gotta get supply

sinful blade
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No need to be mean

devout forum
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:3

sweet phoenix
elfin mural
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true

devout forum
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That was not nice Goose

cedar compass
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I love that "which company is more sux" kind of arguing kekw

sinful blade
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Then all of you be nice, smh
I’ll give you all a cookie if you give each other a hug

devout forum
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I'm out of hugs

elfin mural
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weird comebacks

balmy solstice
devout forum
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Spent them all earlier today

worthy meteor
devout forum
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I'm flat effing broke emotionally for the remaining (for me) ~5 hours of the month

sinful blade
devout forum
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How about we ban everyone

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Just /ban all

elfin mural
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watch amd fumble and it'll get roasted by everyone

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but not nvidia

devout forum
frigid stag
elfin mural
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i have nothing to say

frigid stag
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Idk if most people are even shopping at 600$ Mark

elfin mural
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it means you're accepting 750 bucks 5070ti

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ngl

frigid stag
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They need cheaper cards to truly compete

devout forum
frigid stag
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I wouldn’t buy one at all

elfin mural
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there, finally

frigid stag
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I’m just waiting it out to see what’s better

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Than a 5070 ti

worthy meteor
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It should be fun to see what they end up doing with 9070

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seems weird to price to just $50 below

devout forum
elfin mural
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i feel it's an upsell to xt

devout forum
elfin mural
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ya

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usual amd move

cedar compass
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yeah non xt price sux and probably will drop 20% of it's price like 7900xt

worthy meteor
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It might be but I don't know if their intention is to price the 9070xt higher later or price the 9070 lower later

devout forum
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Two for one wombo combo

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Honestly

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I want them to lower the 9070
But my feeling is increasing XT later

worthy meteor
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tbh it might just be for a 1:1 comparison to 5070 when that finally comes out lol

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just so they have something that's exactly 550 msrp

cedar compass
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yeah we learned " don't trust calims and internal tests " for long ago

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amd even claimed 7600x is better than 12900k back then too

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ended up it's not even half of it

worthy meteor
elfin mural
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yeah

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it indeed ended up winning

worthy meteor
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it was just a bit misleading showing 1 neutral bench 1 bench where it loses and the rest positive benches

elfin mural
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7600x is that fast

worthy meteor
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real performance ended up with more neutral benches and more in favor of 12900k

nocturne merlin
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if i bought 2x16 sticks 4000 mhz cl20 could I use them as 3600mhz cl16 on r5 5600x? I don't know much about ram

worthy meteor
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but it still did have the 10% uplift in some games

elfin mural
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12900k has more cores ofc

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so it wins in real world

velvet summit
worthy meteor
nocturne merlin
cedar compass
mortal grail
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Sounds like that ass patriot bin that's like garbage b die

velvet summit
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i'd probably just buy the 3600

mortal grail
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Hello I am back

elfin mural
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seeing red felix is odd

velvet summit
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hello back

nocturne merlin
worthy meteor
elfin mural
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i gotta get used to it

mortal grail
cedar compass
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5070ti won over 4090 too .( when you enable 4x upslace ) crap is same lol . 7600x is better than 12900 ( only at few games )

mortal grail
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Look in the sub 50 range if you need new

worthy meteor
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It averages ~5% behind 12900k instead of 5% ahead, but there were really those benches where it is actually ahead by 10%

elfin mural
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amd admitting the 9070xt is slower than 5070ti is a thing nvidia would never do

worthy meteor
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but at least AMD did show it actually losing in gtav

nocturne merlin
mortal grail
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3200 c16/3600 c18 will perform basically the same as 3600 c16

mortal grail
velvet summit
mortal grail
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Cheapest you find

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Used would be way better yeah

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cedar compass
nocturne merlin
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def would follow that advice if only the used marked wasn't bum here, most people just keep old stuff or sells them for the price of new

worthy meteor
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My main thing is that AMD is willing to show where it loses, Nvidia doesn't

elfin mural
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yeah

nocturne merlin
elfin mural
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amd showed where it lost to nvidia

velvet summit
devout forum
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Like there are a fair few cases (mostly in raster) where it wins
And even if it loses more times in RT it is no longer a crushing defeat, but an actually close fight

mortal grail
elfin mural
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that's making me feel faithful

mortal grail
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Like anything

worthy meteor
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you can end up piecing together an accurate picture with the data AMD gives you

elfin mural
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yeah

mortal grail
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Lol

elfin mural
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the loss in rt amd showed

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is just a loss

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not a crushing loss

dusk knot
velvet summit
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oh

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it's an impact railway wrench

dusk knot
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or untouchable

velvet summit
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💀

devout forum
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It's a loss you'd be proud at the end cuz you were actually in the fight

nocturne merlin
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I was hoping to just get the timings lower

devout forum
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There could be an actual shift for Radeon if they keep rolling like this

mortal grail
sweet phoenix
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4000c20 isn't a good die

devout forum
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Still not perfect but it's at least not missing an opportunity

sweet phoenix
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You'd want 3600c16

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Or 3200c14

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Or a crucial ballistix kit

mortal grail
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But if it's a new pc I wouldn't be too enticed by this

cedar compass
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anyways we still can agree all corpos sux lol and we don't belive before release claims and internal tests ( for a reason ofc )

mortal grail
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I would try get ddr5 if possible

nocturne merlin
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I mean I'm on 2666 cl16 rn so anything would be better lmao, I'm primary getting it just for the 32gb upgrade

nocturne merlin
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16

mortal grail
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Tbh

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You could get away with that

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Lol

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Unless you're playing something that desperately needs 32, we have a debloat script that'll give you a buttload of ram back in #windows-ios

nocturne merlin
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recently I found that I just need more ram, windows uses 10 gb and seems like it's not even headroom since it stays like that in games too

mortal grail
sweet phoenix
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That ain't normal

cedar compass
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idk if it's just me but games using more than 16gb nowadays ? I gaming at 2k and most games using like 18-20gb ram hmm

mortal grail
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10 is way too much

nocturne merlin
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pretty fresh install too lol

worthy meteor
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just windows is taking 10gb?

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sounds suspicious

sweet phoenix
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Debloat windows PLEASE

mortal grail
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It should be 6 or less

sweet phoenix
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Even non debloated 10gb is way too much

mortal grail
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Run the debloat script

worthy meteor
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should be at like ~5gb or so idling

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btw do you have any third party antivirus installed?

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mcafee and such?

nocturne merlin
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alright I'll try that, but wouldn't getting 3600 cl16 still be an upgrade for speed?

mortal grail
nocturne merlin
nocturne merlin
cedar compass
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yeah 10gb is too much . even with discord + and like 7 chrome tabs im at 9gb

worthy meteor
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5600x should see some gains from 2666 to 3600

frigid stag
mortal grail
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Debloat debloat debloat

mortal grail
cedar compass
worthy meteor
frigid stag
cedar compass
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windows sux lol

sweet phoenix
mortal grail
frigid stag
nocturne merlin
sweet phoenix
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Oh I'm blind then

mortal grail
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Lol

opaque sedge
mortal grail
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All good

sweet phoenix
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Id just grab that

sweet phoenix
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Or a cheaper used option

worthy meteor
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yea I would say it's not a bad idea for the platform if you're not going to be doing any other upgrades to it

mortal grail
frigid stag
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2666 is slow af for ryzen

sweet phoenix
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Ah

cedar compass
frigid stag
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That inf fabric wants some fast ram

mortal grail
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Y'all

cedar compass
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win11 really sux

opaque sedge
mortal grail
nocturne merlin
frigid stag
mortal grail
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No point in 60 for new ddr4

sweet phoenix
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But still high

frigid stag
mortal grail
opaque sedge
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Lemme try restarting haven’t shut the thing down in days

frigid stag
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Unless you have a g0d tier imc

mortal grail
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If he's gonna get new ram he may as well go am5

sweet phoenix
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No 5600x can handle 4000mhz synced

frigid stag
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A few can

mortal grail
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7500f is cheap

sweet phoenix
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Mhm

cedar compass
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maybe my igpu eating much idk

opaque sedge
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@mortal grail should i update to 572.xx drivers… (jk i wont)

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worthy meteor
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depends on how much they're spending, it's like $250 for new cpu mobo ram

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$60 for ram

sinful blade
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Imagine

frigid stag
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Where?

cedar compass
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too much for only discord and apple music ?

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maybe igpu eating some ram too idk

elfin mural
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i forgot feb only has 28 days

velvet summit
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moderate use

frigid stag
opaque sedge
elfin mural
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it's already march

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wth

mortal grail
cedar compass
frigid stag
nocturne merlin
velvet summit
opaque sedge
velvet summit
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😔

worthy meteor
frigid stag
unreal trail
mortal grail
misty sparrow
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It 100% is because the 5070ti is using ray tracing and the 9070xt isn’t according to the chart

frigid stag
velvet summit
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beamng with mods will crash from OOM even with nothing else running

mortal grail
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It almost always works out

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It's very rare it's over 50

frigid stag
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You’re only getting 4000mts to work on single ccd ryzen

worthy meteor
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not always doable to sell at a reasonable price

cedar compass
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newegg had 300$ 7600x mobo ram ssd bundle back then

frigid stag
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Dual ccd and 4000mts is almost impossible

sweet phoenix
worthy meteor
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and that still involves needing capital for the purchase

mortal grail
nocturne merlin
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am4 mobo prices are so ridiculous here my b550 was more than my 5600x when I bought them lol

mortal grail
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Lol

opaque sedge
frigid stag
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5900x, 5950x etc id give u a prize if you got 4000mts synced

mortal grail
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It's often very doable if they can lament a pc for a week

frigid stag
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(The prize is a gt210) 💀

devout forum
mortal grail
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I've done this math like 10 thousand times

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It's almost always worth it

devout forum
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Cuz then I guess I have a reason to go 64
Or hell even 96

worthy meteor
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I mean personally I still have a 5900x I couldn't sell lol

opaque sedge
worthy meteor
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it's just that I live in the middle of nowhere

mortal grail
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I still have mine

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Lmao

worthy meteor
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fair lmao

frigid stag
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3800 works on zen 2 🗿

mortal grail
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We bought 6 core ccd's and THEN we doubled it like idiots

worthy meteor
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quite unfortunate

mortal grail
velvet summit
opaque sedge
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@mortal grail pcmr seems really hurt this time 💀

mortal grail
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Beam english drive

devout forum
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I need certainty

velvet summit
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it's mainly an issue on larger maps

devout forum
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So 96 it is

mortal grail
opaque sedge
devout forum
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Omw to sell my third kidney brb

balmy solstice
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phone on -0%

frigid stag
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“You deserve to be treated worse for not buying from my favourite billion dollar brand”

frigid stag
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He is. Hate the game not the player

mortal grail
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Too many people say "Buy AMD" then buy themselves nvidia

devout forum
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Except the game is made by the player

mortal grail
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The pc gamers made this bed

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They must lay in the bed

frigid stag
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Buy whatever you want it’s not that serious

balmy solstice
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amd has yet to fulfil the prophecy

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it is not yet their time

frigid stag
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For most people it comes down to price anyway

devout forum
sage sluice
mortal grail
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Lmfao

opaque sedge
mortal grail
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The monopsony is created by people who buy into a monopoly

sage sluice
mortal grail
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They will make the same product again and you will buy it

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Nvidia

dusk knot
frigid stag
proud jackal
devout forum
sage sluice
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Nvidia already has too much marketshare for amd to even win it rn ngl

devout forum
dusk knot
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NgreedAi needs to make sacrifices

devout forum
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And I don't mean you personally

proud jackal
frigid stag
mortal grail
frigid stag
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That’s how a free market works

devout forum
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I mean the person that preaches AMD and then turns around and góes NPC mode

proud jackal
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Let's settle down

frigid stag
proud jackal
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All gpus suck

cedar compass
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all that arguing is good but I'd say wait till real release of amd cards before claim amd is better tho lol

proud jackal
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Long live intel

frigid stag
proud jackal
mortal grail
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Oops

dusk knot
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Intel doesn't matter atm

mortal grail
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Silly jensen lmao

opaque sedge
cedar compass
proud jackal
sage sluice
devout forum
frigid stag
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The ceos are literally cousins no? kekw

mortal grail
balmy solstice
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if only laptops had a good use other than portability

proud jackal
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Guys pls stop fighting derpyBlob

opaque sedge
misty sparrow
opaque sedge
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😭

opaque sedge
balmy solstice
sage sluice
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I think if like the overpriced gpu with some cool features, you should be able to buy it. And vice versa

misty sparrow
mortal grail
sage sluice
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Its called a free market

proud jackal
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What's the point of gpus if cloud gaming is the FUTURE

devout forum
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Would y'all consider a 2000D actually portable?

cedar compass
frigid stag
misty sparrow
devout forum
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Like take it in a backpack and bring it along

mortal grail
sage sluice
mortal grail
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Not a backpack

balmy solstice
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stop fighting, its what nvidia wants us to do. they want to split us up and pick us off one by one

mortal grail
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Suitcase yeah

devout forum
frigid stag
sage sluice
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Just give me a fat big box, dont give me this skeletor ass transformer bs

misty sparrow
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100%

devout forum
mortal grail
devout forum
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Just glued to the mesh side

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The ultimate desktop replacement laptop™️

sage sluice
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Gimme a new snapdragon chip and im a happy customer

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Maybe an oled screen

devout forum
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It's portable

frigid stag
balmy solstice
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assus will rue the day their support refused me service on my motherboard

frigid stag
sage sluice
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If i can play dark souls 1 on my laptop thats more than enough for me kekw

balmy solstice
cedar compass
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I using 400$ crapbox laptop with ipgu lol I only need chrome and excel anyways

mortal grail
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Hello Steve when is the fan testing video releasing

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I need to see some fan tests please

sage sluice
opaque sedge
# devout forum Imagine that With like a 16" 1440p portable display

Reminds me those new ryzen apu pricing man… they’re expensive enough to be out of reach for regular consumers looking for a portable form gaming device but cheap enough for people making ml farming rigs (i’ve been on this for days… it sucks to know that individual consumers aren’t gonna be the target for tech now its gonna be for businesses who can drop big bucks)

balmy solstice
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holy generational debt

cedar compass
misty sparrow
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It’s still accurate

devout forum
sage sluice
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I would rather just, afford stuff and not be in debt

devout forum
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Gimme an 8 core APU with 40 CUs

craggy shoal
opaque sedge
mortal grail
#

Truly the pc brain ROT

craggy shoal
#

ROT

mortal grail
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Republic Of Taxes

craggy shoal
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ROG tax for the military tax

craggy shoal
#

Military++

opaque sedge
misty sparrow
opaque sedge
#

Developing countries catching a lot of strays today

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😭

misty sparrow
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Why do you think there’s “Developing” in the phrase “Developing countries”?

craggy shoal
#

Ngl I’ve only had my Asus laptop be the only Asus product that’s failed on me

sage sluice
#

I miss Raspberry PIs being affordable

misty sparrow
mortal grail
craggy shoal
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Nah wait these are dudes not cat girls 😭

frigid stag
frigid stag
pliant berry
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I don’t like that

mortal grail
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Whole workstations

balmy solstice
sage sluice
frigid stag
sage sluice
craggy shoal
velvet summit
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the original video made was kinda crazy (Though it wasnt what the meme was

opaque sedge
mortal grail
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You want expensive tech freebie crap? Go work in a uni tech support

velvet summit
#

it was literally just regular cows's milk carbonated

balmy solstice
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i never had that kinda milk so i wouldnt know

misty sparrow
mortal grail
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Literal workstations given away

velvet summit
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it ruined his soda stream and also made sour milk

velvet summit
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💀

frigid stag
dusk knot
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Carbonated milk?????

balmy solstice
misty sparrow
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at least it’s better than pilk

velvet summit
opaque sedge
dusk knot
#

Ewww

sage sluice
#

Men

dusk knot
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Come on you don't do that

velvet summit
#

i watched this video when it came out

mortal grail
misty sparrow
craggy shoal
frigid stag
#

Idk how to respond to that

dusk knot
#

You. Stop right there

velvet summit
#

it wasnt even regular milk

sage sluice
opaque sedge
# sage sluice Men

Resisting the urge to make a diabolical possibly a ban worthy your mom joke

velvet summit
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it was lactose free milk

fresh nova
#

Guys

velvet summit
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💀

misty sparrow
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I shouldn’t be asking these questions

frigid stag
#

It’s a Chad move to get banned for that

craggy shoal
#

Guys

dusk knot
sage sluice
#

Mb jp