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huh, well im used to playing with people in uk so i didnt think twice
Bad
ryzen 5 7400f
kek, toasty bros just said its a good cpu lmfaoooo

have you seen the 7600xt lol
beefy cooler
do you also enjoy fitting into tight jeans, just a random question
you sound like the type of person that enjoys things in tight spaces, or cave diving
No
I’m slowly becoming a MATX enthusiast
Desk was creaking everytime i put pressure on a certain spot so i unscrewed the top, cut a rubber band in half and lined it up along the support and now the creak is gone ✨
Also dont mind cable management hell in the back
Entire RX 9070 Gaming PCs will cost less than a single RTX 5090 GPU First of the first offers. The Radeon RX 9070 series is to be formally announced this Friday, but larger retailers have been preparing for this launch for a long time. AMD themselves confirmed that they have been shipping RDNA4 cards to […]
just bad market rn
just bad market rn
just bad market rn
Amd never fails to disappoint
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/johndamilkman/saved/VqQgzy is this good enough to run jedi survivor??
the cool machine - Intel Pentium E2220, Linkworld 617-03-c2228U MicroATX Slim w/400 W Power Supply
just bad market rn
just bad market rn
PLEASEE
I jUST WANT A GOOD $500 GPU THTS A UPGRADE REEEE
what do you have right now
7700xt'
between 4060ti/4070
yeahh nothing much better than that for 500 or less sadly
what cpu you got it paired with
13600kf
3080 ti
Or 6900xt/6950xt
Surely the 9070xt won't shoot up in price once they are on the market looks at the camera
Lmfao
They seem to have some of the best and worst takes on stuff
I don’t really use them as a reliable source of info

Well their 7800 xt prebuilt is 1749
lol I just watched a video where they compared a 7600 and b580 in streaming, and the cpu used was 7400f
They prob get them at a price that makes them good
just a bad time to buy pcs ig
I’d rather just use a more trusted source such as LTT or GN, or even Tom’s hardware.
Wasn't 7800XTs at $400 something earlier
Now they're at like
Pfff
$500 something
Not saying there isn’t more; but those are good examples
When people get techie they change
7800xt base price was $500 supposed to drop now
$440 i think was the lowest
I wonder how much they buy 7400f for
$480-500 is a pretty normal price
I bet it’s like $120
Now they're pretty much always $540 or higher
And its also cheaper than this
Yeah I was in a bit of a shock when I made a parts list yesterday
Specs arent listed for ibp so not really accurate
A $1K budget build turned into $1.2K
I think cheaper
🗿
$100?
That would make sense why it’s a good cpu to them
Its oos on aliexpress now but I think it was $110
Hopium administered

O.. yeah it sounds like a good cpu for the price
Lmfao
Didn’t we both see one for $110? @sweet phoenix
Is 9700X decent value now?
Or was that myself
Probably
Its abt 5% better than the 7700/x for games so depends on the price diff
Rip
Go get pantry safe milk
Time to cry over spoiled milk
Does anyone know how to keep milk in a crappy fridge
.
5% more for 5% performance?
Actually I wonder
I just started using pantry safe milk
Can you keep pantry milk in the fridge and then put it out?
And I’m never going back
You can keep it out until you open it
Then it takes 2 weeks to go bad
It won't go bad even with a crappy fridge tho?
My fridge sucks
So yeah
ayo
Oh I just realized that the ibp 9070 xt has a 9900x which means its about $350 cheaper than the same system with a 7900 xt
HOPE INCREASES
why is everyone getting techie?
Role changes
I have been trying to get java server to run on linux and it cant read the java_arg file literally next to it
Demotions, promotions, etc.
I'm techie now
smh i know my hardware
I wanna be techie 😦 just not today
nah i can earn it without asking
Based

Who wants unsolicited tech advice
Naht goes through your chat history
If you earned it, you’ll probably get it
Pog, Ron Wilson, Techie
real
Im cooked
See you can troll a bit
I type java --version and get could not create java virtual machine
Yeah, idk how I got it, I’m an idiot
10.0.0.152:8100
If you know your stuff and you're helpful then you might qualify
sheer skill
I don’t believe this

🙉
filled with dr pepper
im sorry we dont have dr pepper is mr pibb ok?
Mr Clean
why no dr pepper????
cuz dr pepper is trash
what is wrong with you
should be asking that about urself
dr pepper is the best soda ever created
no ifs , ands or buts
choose one
dr bob
dr pepper
yoink all of these in the trash can and go buy sprite/7up at the nearest gas staion
mr pibb is the only acceptable replacement if dr pepper is not available
EW THATS UR OPTION ?!
there is a reason why nobody outside americas drinks dr pepper
ur not in usa?
canadian but i'd rather die than drinkg dr p
How did Dr Pepper get his PhD
thats the brits
Beans on toast is good
oh yall do something weird i know that lol
BEANS ON TOAST SHOULD BE BANNED INTERNATIONALLY
Naht
the only bread beans are allowed to be on are tortillas
Have you seen aussie cuisine
oh then what are you
bro toast and beans are godly combo
and no whats aussie cuisine
EWWW WHAT IS THAT
It's a snag

I might have to time you out for that
raw
lmao
ew
On my mood
avocado is soo good
If I'm feeling asian
it literally doesnt taste like anything
I might make noodles or macaroni in soup
avocado on toast with some prosciutto
Hear me out
ngl the best breakfast is by far fluffy pancakes with nutella
with strawberries
And rich in energy
aint no way im having this in the morning
This is a Hong Kong staple breakfast dish
They love soups in the morning
Usually with macaroni
cream of wheat with sugar, butter and buttered toast in the AM is sooooooo good
ooooo what's that
menudo
bro tell me
you wake in 6am
and are like
ive never had green menudo before
its called white menudo
yeah
you wildin homie
I mean
id rather have preworkout in the morning than soup
every store usually sells red menudo for some reason
maybe bc of the flavor
What does it taste like?
ive never eaten white menudo
yall ever wake up
pour cereal and the milk then decide that 200g of sugar will do it for the day
ooh i love albondigas
now thats what i call a dish
Bok choy and fish cake/balls soup
whats this lame watery soup stuff
ryan why are you so angry
its 2 am and im doing physics homework 😭
funny how i used the same bowl for two different soups
i love tteokbokki with fish cakes
2 am in Canada ?! and physics ?!
Fish cakes go hard in soups
makes soup
is watery
you:
ugh pm i mean but yeah physics
I use ice instead of water to make soup
ahh in vancouver i see
Ice is water
That’s why I confused reacted
It's water in a different chemical state
I drink molten ice
pepe
does anyone know how to self crack a back but like a specific area
sounds like a good way to injure yourself
I usually just smack my back
Not like crack it
Just give it a nudge to massage it
i just get next to a chair and hit one of those cat yawns
the pain is right here
I should get a massage gun
My muscles are super tense
I walk at uhh
An above average walking speed
crunchy
I get where I need to go quick but I strain my muscles
not much lately but I'll probably get back to messing with my Orange Pi 5
👀
I should probably do something funny with my esp32
thats cool i wanted to get an op5 decided to for a banana pi 5 though
I kinda wanna get a real SBC to play around with
I'm mostly limited to my homelab setup and my microcontrollers
True
like get into STMS with the 16kb of ram
ESP32s are like arduinos for big bois
and then you'll get what actual embedded feels like
what do ya got in ur homelab?
Was joking since he said the soup is watery
Oh lmao
The first comment describes my disappointment well
You can’t say under 700 and just do 699 AMD
5700XT had a msrp of $399 btw
AMD loves money more than their consumers
I haven't trusted AMD since uhh
Zen 2 bios shenanigans
Basically they were not going to support it
Microcenter leaks pretty legit right?
Well
Let’s hope these are still placeholders
Because
Idk man
No way were they actually gonna try $650 for the 9070 surely
Surely these are placeholders with the available on 02/28 right?
I have an Arduino ESP32 lol
I still want a Honda CRV table
Pog
I want salary with no job
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THERES TOO MANY CABLES
How
What PSU is it, and do you have any hard drives or SSDs?
I can hop on one momentarily
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General 1
@real zenith comin?
you don't like Nano ESP32?
arduino nano or the sparkfun nano
Arduino
its too expensive lol
its an official Arduino ESP32 lol
id never buy it
I use official ones for prototype stuff
i would never buy anything arduino official ngl
I do it because they are worth supporting IMO
They have empowered hobbyists around the world so yeah
heck thats how i got into embedded like 3 years ago
but i aint paying 60 buckos for an arduino duo when i can get an actual sbc for that price
I have an Arduino Uno R4 too (I might be the first person to have played Bad Apple on it lol)
heard the r4 is pretty dope
@real zenith lmk how it ends up
It is but the R3 is still better for newbies
the only sbc i want is the nvidia jetson nano (the new one)
when i get that i'll prob never get an sbc ever again
R3 has higher current limits on the pins
ESP32 mentioned?
i always prefer to use some external power source on arduinos ngl
aren't those like $2000?
yes one of the most based MCUs ever
like the base is 200$ and the chip is 600$ i think
but if you get the upgraded ones its 2000
Teensy 4.1 however is even more of a powerhouse
orange pi and banana pi both beat it
The price to performance and features goes crazy.
Those are SBCs not MCUs
oh mb i thought you was talking about the google ones
what was their name (the coral one)
Teensy 4.1 is like an Arduino Nano... on steroids
aii
this shi mad confusing props to whoever built they pcs
600 MHz ARM microcontroller
and production tested
Yup
i dont really know my stance on arduinos
the only one i use is my duo and thats cause i got like a solid 70 pins on it
but other than that i'd either go for an STM or just get an SBC
I have also a Arduino Giga R1 Wifi
pretty much the exact same ports as the duo i think
It has an aux port too
you got any Portenta series ?
ASRock the only one not scalping 😔
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Asus and Powercolor can go away smh for sure.
Some scalper actually bought that bucket of 💩 Can't blame NewEgg, if there's suckers willing to pay might as well make a $10k bucket
pina coladas are fire tbh
ASRock's a real homie.
At killing 9800x3d
Allegedly
that has to be the worst case ive ever seen ong
Vsoc 1.85 aint allegedly 🤣
AMD hasn't confirmed what's going on yet. And MSI boards have also killed 9800x3ds.
Yeah its an eyesore
Could just end up being more ASRock boards because more people are using them. They have the best mid priced options right now.
I wouldn't touch asrock with a 10ft pole
Just remember which side goes into the PSU, it’ll all click into place.
Ignore those wires I told you about.
Literally the tweet in the article they are referencing

So again. ASRock and AMD have NOT said what's breaking them or that it's on ASrocks end specifically.
They are aware there is an issue and they are taking the blame for the issue are two entirely different things.
Memory config errors lmao. Dude the mem controller is frying on these cpus because of the run away vsoc. They can call it an error etc but if that was the case, ppl wouldn't have fried cpus. I've got a crosshair x870-e and it correctly reads my vsoc and by default had it at a safe 1.3v not 1.815v
And mine on an ASRock motherboard is also defaulting correctly :0 crazy
Are you on x870?
B850m steel legend
yeah i have idk where to connect the wired to the motherboard tho
im acc confused asf
Ok so then this doesn't apply
In/around each motherboard connector, will show what’s supposed to go there
Things will also often line up with pins/sizes.
Forget that, just jam it in
Real
Also an AMD employee said that the voltage going to 1.8 is likely a read error.
https://youtu.be/VaVetNsGHRo?feature=shared
https://youtu.be/7SjQo7wrWq4?feature=shared
watch the second video first @real zenith
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I got an idea
Read the mf manual
It tells you where to plug things in
Cars have them too
The cylinder, semi-circle, arch, and triangle all fit in the square hole, so…
But the squares don't fit in the other holes
imagine reading manuals in 2025
He's saying the cpu won't go above the fused limit unless its set externally. Most of these cpu deaths happened with asrock and those guys noticed abnormal vsoc reads. Yah 1.815v would probably fry it instantly so it might be an hwinfo read error but that doesnt rule out a voltage spike happening. I bet there's going to be more asrock users coming forward
no
Agesa moment
Lmfao
Gonna be glad when it finally retires
Not with that attitude
1.8v sounds like someone missed inputting like the 1.8v rail setting instead of vSOC lmfao
Considering how quickly the patch went out I wouldn't be surprised 😂
I get PDFs of them to refer to sometimes
what happened to felix? heard he left
@mortal grail you left?
bet
Rip Felix
Who are you again?
I am build boi
Can't believe a random got mod 💀
I was overqualified
Fr
What took me 2 years, he did it in 1 day
I remember when you first arrived here
He just had that style ya know
I got bored
I remember JP's first words like it was yesterday
Had a good vibe
lol
lmfaooooooooo
This server used to be smaller and then Linus blew it up with a giveaway. Theo used to win all the time
"I am gonna buy this pc. I like this pc too! Felix what do you think of this pc?"

It was destiny
remember when linus too was smaller
This is probably right
Really?
Man he was like 4ft tall back then
and now hes 4'2
It was the dr scholls inserts, raised his height
nah i think it was the dad thing
He steps on his children?
Until relatively recently, I was told Linus was a terrible person and if I watched him, I was supporting a POS
The humanity…


And the world keeps spinning
My response to people who insert useless drama and their opinions with out a reason
assuming you mean LTT Linus lol
I’m assuming to
It’s crazy how I can ignore the drama and go back to watching his content
I didn’t even know who he was until last year lmao
Lmfao
People just think drama matters to everyone
LTT is that famous guy that drops video cards
Ignore them and go back to enjoying what y like
Unless they’re a pedophile
Mad facts
@tranquil pebble sir may you please buy a NVIDIA Jetson Orin Nano Developer Kit 945-13766-0000-000 and ship it directly to my house?
uh no
What about my house?
I used to love miniladd, then all that stuff came out
Then I never watched him again
wanna know its funny
when they get cought talking to 17 year olds and i just peep at my states Age of consent lawws and go.. uh okay??
also whos minilad
I’ll let you dive that rabbit hole yourself
ill assume a kris tyson
lmfao
Worse
edp?
Unsure who that is
ed that *** 445
youtuber cought trying to meat a minor, running joke across the entire intenet
he went to get a cupcake
then cought talking to a minor again..
then again but with proof
lmfao
a real minor
I don’t care for drama channels
But this seems to be the most concise https://youtu.be/SD64lBx7r1s?feature=shared
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Real
There was also multiple
Mini ladd likes a mini lass
I still feel a little disgust when I remember I did watch him for a while before the accusations started
I used to watch uhh
i talk to minors all the time im in highschool
Certain Minecraft Youtubers

im done imma show u finishing product friday my gpu coming in i jus decided to finish everything but gpu
I’m sad popularmmos just went crazy
So i can play right away when gpu comes
At least I'm not the dreamsmp generation
Like that whole situation is so messed up
And cable management i could care less
tbh i feel bad for him
as long as case closes 😛
The only good thing to come out pf that
Is jschlatt mass banning all the dream stans
lmfao its funny how tommyinit was known as the immature child, then years later hes the most mature out of all of them
You know who’s stayed OUT of controversy still?
I've been in this chat so long
Captain sparklez
Stampy
Hermitcraft is also chill
I like this, it's a fresh experience changing them all around
Social revolution
I don’t accept any friend requests tbh
Total switch up overnight
I don't accept dms
👍🏻
That has to be intentional
I clear stuff out too fast a lot
My body goes faster than my brain
Oh I have you friended
Sweet
Wait no
Nvm
It's just mutual friends
Lmao
Yeah I was like
"I don't remember getting a friend request from roomba"
I try to stop myself from readding people over and over again by just having my dms open to fellow server members
d2y/dx2 server
what the FLIP is this
I leave my DMS open to random, though I don't always reply
Makes it easier if they're too new and can't post images yet
what does back order mean
It means the retailer doesn't have stock
But will
So you're putting in an order
Yeah I kinda wanna do that
But it also opens the gates to people just dming it for help
sooo
ah so will i get it later than the other parts?
TBF with my denying techie it probably helps 
It's a bit of a hassle for the end user but
No randos DM me usually
Will u be my techie
I get random dms asking for help

And usually during my off hours
No
Your problems are too obscure

I mostly just don't respond to dms because #building-and-recc-chat is generally a better place to ask for help anyways
Nuh uh
Many voices better than one
the free 1tb ssd that comes with the ryzen 5 7600x, is the ssd any good?
Context?
Free is free
the 7600x
Interesting
it comes with an ssd
It is LITERALLY a free ssd
is it good
Not a bundle?
I mean free is free
I mean we don't have enough context
Without which specific ssd it is
We won't know if it's good
too many new colors
Hmm
It's up to you really
If it's a mid ssd
Worst case scenario
You use it as a storage drive
What is the price difference between the 7600x and non x
Corsair MP600 CORE XT
eh
True
Get rid of theo
That's not bad right?
One less colour
a whopping ~44$

At least it's a ssd
does a 0.4 ghz core clock difference even matter?
Not really
For me discord doesnt even make a system notification when smeone sends a dm
actually no its not 0.4
So idc
0.9 ghz diff
Mp44L is $58.99
You can also overclock the non x
Newegg tends to put ok ones in, you should be able to see it by checkout
bascialyl 1ghz is kinda big
IMO I'd just get a 7600 non x
I'm guessing mp44L
From the ssd tier list it's very mid
Mp44L is good
Apparently it's a MP600 Core XT
Qlc
MP44L is $58.99 so

It depends
Bleh QLC I take it back
I'd just pay the $15 price difference for a MP44L + 7600
Personally I would get an AliExpress 7500F and buy SSD seperate. Cras c910 is TLC and ~$50 for 1tb
But $44 for free is free
If you're comparing two different generations cpus its not relevant
I have a good qlc drive, works fine if it's under 70% full
I mean it's a decent storage drive
And its much worse
Go am5 if you can man
About 20% worse
Around the same perf in some cases
Worse in others
Bro became numbers
Wait
Someone sold me a 5600x for $50
Lol
i thought bigger number = better
I'm stupid
Lmao I clicked the wrong keyboard
Yeah 7000 is considerably faster than 5000
7600/X is a good bit better than a 5700X
buy a 7800x3d oem
so i should get ryzen 5 7600
Yes
building techie boeing
at least its gonna be better than the i3 thats in my mac 💀
Significantly worse
dont fall apart
imo the $44 diff isn't worth it
I can't type today
What was the budget for your build, or did I alr make you a list?
Two reasons why.
- New platform is ALWAYS better if you can afford it for next to nothing
- 7600/X has total performance equivalent to a 5700X3D/5800X3D
this is why you wont be techie
Also if you want to save money

oop
Just buy a 7500f off aliexpress, or this
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126120428861
DAMN
$139 7500F
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mt2voiJ
$51 c910 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBSSC21F?
7000 mobo also has 9000 series compatibility
5000 series is all you getting forever
Pretty much
Yeah if you get the 5700 and then want to upgrade, you have to get a new cpu, mobo and ram
Quite costly
Bit cheaper 7500f
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008073076500.html
The boat for 5000 series has left the port
Only people stuck on 3000 series make sense with it now
I upgraded from 2700x to 5600x
By upgrade I mean I broke the cpu accidentally and had to get a replacement

Sensible upgrade
That's a leap tbh
Im on a +200 oc 5600
Zen+ ipc is not great
Pretty normal lol
Did discord desktop go down
Basically a 5600X 
im on discord desktop right now
i dont think so
Thought of getting a 5700x3d but I might as well go am5
Must be the aus internet mate
Clearly a Linux issue/j

If you see an a620i lightning ever appear again for 130-ish grab it immediately, they're not coming back
Best itx board in a while
Took the blackpill and accepted the b series wifi lighting pricing
let me get a techie for you 
They should drop the price of the b650 already
takes linux role away

Inb4 boeing figures it out becomes network techie
Well… at least it’s in stock
i could be bomb techie
CHILLLLLLLLLL
nah it's some config bug I've been too lazy to fix
i mean they sell gigaby-
all mine
Oh amd you you shouldn’t have
You really shouldn’t have 
i think we have like 3 new techies rn no ?
Yeah 3 i think
turns out something is killing the wifi radio
whats better 4070 or 7700xt
price of both?

Too much
stats bro stats
There's no bad products only bad prices mate
5090
4060 is a bad product and has a bad price
Spend $5k now
Because it's a bad price yea
spend $5K for a chance to burn your house down
If a 4060 was $100 everyone would buy it
7700 is 539
Market
hell nah
every day it gets worse
Covid prices
I'm certain the 7800XT is still at $550
😔
if it gone up in a day...
Kinda bleh but the 4070 price is how much
Nope
it says 4070 is 800
watch it bud

Yeah no way
sorry 🥀
you might actually want to get it soon
but inflation is crazy
lowk ima be honest
ima buy a pc in may
for my bday
im js researching round rn
for good builds
you will want to do your research then
not now
the market changes a lot in a week
much more in several months
Researching months in advance the whole market will do like 3 180s in that time man
Little you learn now will do anything sadly
Just watch reviews
Go watch gamers nexus
Hardware unboxed
watch GN rant about rtx 50 series
Zach's tech turf
zach's computer is slow
Maybe ltt
AHAHHA
fire bot
where did this zach thing come from
zach's computer is slow
🔥
Get some info under your belt
zach
zach's computer is slow
W
im catchin strays
anyway how yall get the pfp icons
Roles
I have no idea what's going on here but I assume naht is roasting him
like the money chain
Oh yeah dosh helps
we got promoted
THEO department when
i dont roast anyone 😦 im too nice
but i will demote bc i am big boss
lmao
im about to start singing its closing time
cant close yet, i still havent gotten my 5090
wow so many new positions today
They gave me squeaky hammer
can finally destroy more incoming trolls
HOW CAN I GET YOU A 5090
kindly ask jensen!
My Mjolnir
ooooh ez pz
Yeah nat just ask him at lunch today
Walk up to his house and greet!
buy a RTX 5080 and generate a 5090 with AI
ez work
i was given 5000 5090s but unfortunately i have to keep them for myself
Buy 2 rtx 5080s and glue em together
bribe jensen with a leather jacket
Speaking of rtx 5080
that leather jacket go crazy
we gaming boys No “extremely rare” hardware “fault” I probably wasn’t going to get anyways
lucky
I cloned my windows installation from a 128 gb ssd to a 1 tb, to an external drive, then to a 2 tb ssd
Gpu z just yelled at me for taking a screenshot because they have their own screenshot thing apparently
Ok you got me
This thing needs a break
God dammit
lmao
LOL
Good, you have the full version
no DLC scam
that looks like a dyson bike
lol
12vhpwr
does that thing actually work?
Sell it to me for a dollar and I'd take it
looks like a ring light but just bigger
are they even made by girl scouts
or are they just made in a factory
'Tis the burning ring of fire
😲
Oh also another reason for going to am5 is the second m.2
I only have 1
Here to burn your house down because you forgot to unplug it when going out
So one nvme and 2 sata
Does it taste like the salt water that came off their canoe
i ate the whole box and literally did not enjoy one
Brutal cables
find fanless fan
look inside
fan
thin mints were pretty good when I used to buy some
dunno if they became bad or smth
Also my 4tb arrived today
The hardest part of making a prepetual motion machine is finding where to hide the batteries
I go home now - everyone enjoy your day !!
I remember someone made a working one of this by putting a battery operated magnet or something
UPS took 4 days to hand the package over to USPS, which meant it couldn't be delivered when it was supposed it. The package got delayed to tomorrow but came today 
Ugh i hate that - it’s ups surepost huh
it's free in the sense that it's a giant ball of energy
it's emitting all that whether we like it or not
might as well use it
wait...
hmm
aren't hydro power plants technically indirectly powered by the sun?
If they are going to transfer to USPS half of the way through the delivery what is the point of using UPS 
if there are no rain hydro plants won't work at all right?
Yes it does it’s just enthalpy minus temperature multipled by entropy
They do it to save time
They do that to save money





