general-chat

[fresh timber]

i was right

ur the 5th person to think i got it wrong

[velvet summit]

i thought it was supposed to be dispose

[fresh timber]

lol idk

OK I GOT A QUESTION

[velvet summit]

i was thinking like boeing would frfr

dispose of the evidence

[fresh timber]

my glasses sit on the left side of my face and it touches a part of my head that sometimes makes me feel really dizzy and sometimes it hurts

it that normal?

[velvet summit]

that

seems strange

[tranquil pebble]

Is there any thermal paste/pads designed to last as long as possible?

[rancid juniper]

PTM7950

[fresh timber]

yeahhh

randomly ill be in class and i get this pain and have to take them off

[tranquil pebble]

Reason I ask is that some things are a royal pain to open up to replace paste on

[fresh timber]

luckily i can see my screens and stuff just fine smh

[fresh timber]

get ptm, last longer than the device

ima ptm my gpu if i can figure out how to replace and remove the stripped screws...

[rancid juniper]

its gonna be more of a pain to apply PTM7950 😂

[fresh timber]

also

do yall know how to remove stripped screws

from gpu

rubberband methoid doesnt work

these ones are pooped

i needa figure out how to remove them, so i can repaste my gpu and then put non poop ones in

[velvet summit]

There's also the superglue screwdriver method (you use a lighter to release the screw from the screwdriver, though you don't want to use your good screwdriver for this)

You have to be careful to not accidentally bond the screw to the GPU though lmao

[unreal trail]

dindins

[velvet summit]

You could also do it with interchangeable bits so you can replace the bits as well

[mortal grail]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/SipsTea/comments/1ib7dp2/i_was_not_that_smart/

[fresh timber]

super glue mhh

https://i5.walmartimages.com/seo/6-Pcs-Small-Screws-Screw-Extractor-Stripped-Screws-Removal-Tool-Screw-Remover-and-Extractor_b8f2c26c-acb1-44c9-8f79-e11ac20b93df.fe34cee0fd7fff8af487f95961164c19.jpegmy last resort is and hopping i get the metal off it

no embed

[velvet summit]

Not sure if there even is a screw extractor small enough for m2

[fresh timber]

even something tiny?

o yeah

nah that too big

[velvet summit]

Not enough to bite into, and screw extractors require a pre drill for maximum contact area

Screw is too small for that

[velvet summit]

Likely too small at least

[fresh timber]

ehh ill cope with high hotspot temps until i get a new gpu kek~4

its fine, it only hits 100c if i dont put a power limit on ittt

[nocturne flicker]

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/unitedhealth-confirms-190-million-americans-affected-by-hack-tech-unit-2025-01-24/

[craggy shoal]

I gave my gf a new PC so she gave me this microwave

[rancid juniper]

car

[craggy shoal]

"Close-up M2 isn't real. It can't hurt you"

[mortal grail]

Thank god you didn't say MUSTANG

Oof

Nice microwave btw

[craggy shoal]

Ain't no way somebody looks at a school bus and says "yeah this is a Elkay EZS8L Wall Mount Indoor Refrigerated Drinking Water Fountain"

"Bösendorfer Imperial Concert Grand Piano, Model 290 😭" it's a pencil

[mortal grail]

I'm bored af

[craggy shoal]

Nah that's a Sanyo Denki 8KU-1200-1S-3P-1U high-voltage, pulse-width modulated, adjustable output power supply for industrial use

mf tried coming at me with the Yanmar TD175V diesel generator set 😭

[mortal grail]

You've found a new favourite meme huh 💀

[craggy shoal]

yeah

💀

[fresh timber]

i want to b uild another pc, i can afford it, but i dont wanna be broke rn 😦

i wanna take the rx6600 out my server and into a new build, and overkill on the cpu for potential upgrades

[craggy shoal]

Yeah the 6600 and 2300X was a goofy choice

[fresh timber]

listne

its free

u cant complain abt free

/ super cheap

[craggy shoal]

"I have leftover parts so I'm gonna use them for a server" (I'm making fun of you but yeah I do that too)

[fresh timber]

kek~4

if i had to buy everything i would havE NOT picked a 2300x

id pick a 5600g or something

[craggy shoal]

Literally about to do it in a month or two

[proud jackal]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/graphics-cards/msi-says-that-the-supply-of-its-rtx-5090-cards-will-be-very-tight-due-to-a-limited-supply-of-gpus-from-nvidia/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhtwitter&utm_content=null

[mortal grail]

Have you tried considering Weisshorn Instant Up Camping Tent, 4 Person Easy Setup Dome Tent

[fresh timber]

no

[mortal grail]

Oh

Well ig dying comes next

[icy ore]

Imagine that

Tight supply

[craggy shoal]

I would try this then: Haldex T5-60 CNG (compressed natural gas) transmission for heavy-duty trucks, designed for use in Volvo FH16 tractor units

[icy ore]

Who’d of thunk

[velvet summit]

School bus???

[mortal grail]

*4090 Ti

[craggy shoal]

yeah

y'all fw the Whitworth No. 7 screw-cutting lathe, circa 1882, manufactured by Joseph Whitworth & Company of Manchester, England?

[velvet summit]

Screw lathes are great honestly

[proud jackal]

[velvet summit]

Oh

[mortal grail]

You know I'm right

[velvet summit]

Different type of screw lathe

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screw-cutting_lathe

[mortal grail]

An animator would take one look at that and call it two guns

[velvet summit]

Specifically Swiss made

[mortal grail]

Swiss army guns

[velvet summit]

21 guns?!?n green Day références????

[mortal grail]

I NEVER FOUGHT EM OFFFF

[hoary zodiac]

We should bring back stupid cpus

[mortal grail]

A SEVEN NATION ARMY COULDN'T HOLD ME BACKKK

https://tenor.com/view/strumming-cole-rolland-playing-guitar-guitar-solo-performing-gif-26555501

[mortal grail]

I'M GONNA RIP EM OFFFFF

[velvet summit]

What about smart cpus

[hoary zodiac]

@nvidia

[mortal grail]

AMD but vertical

[craggy shoal]

Dürer-pattern decorated salt-glazed stoneware jug from the workshop of Heinrich Mühlenberg in Nuremberg

Yeah good luck finding one of those

[velvet summit]

Oh wait

[craggy shoal]

💀

[velvet summit]

Did discord give up on the chat summary thing

[craggy shoal]

Chat summary?

[velvet summit]

I just realized that I haven't seen it

[hoary zodiac]

what thing

[fresh timber]

The 5600g used priced are interesting

[craggy shoal]

go new and you won't regret it

[velvet summit]

https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/12926016807575-In-Channel-Conversation-Summaries

[hoary zodiac]

has anyone ever delidded a pentium dual core?

are they two dies?

[craggy shoal]

yeah. not me though. But somebody probably has

[fresh timber]

a 5600 is al il more

i need to convice my self to buy a 5600

[mortal grail]

I've cut the crust off two pies at once if that counts

[velvet summit]

I forgot that Pentium had dual cores

[hoary zodiac]

pentium dual core as in

socket 775

[velvet summit]

Had some cpus with dual core

My Pentium was single core

Very sadge

[mortal grail]

And the quad core license key

[hoary zodiac]

they were literally called that to avoid confusion with pentium 4

[fresh timber]

@craggy shoal aliexpress 5700x3d limited to 65w

?

[craggy shoal]

idk lmao

[velvet summit]

Why didn't they put 4 cores in Pentium 4 frfr

[hoary zodiac]

4GHz

[fresh timber]

i realllyyy wished i had a better motherboard

[hoary zodiac]

😎

[velvet summit]

Also Pentium pricing kinda goes crazy? There was like a Pentium 4 that cost like 1k or something

[hoary zodiac]

they were going to make a pentium that had a rumoured speed of 7GHz

but then they realised it was stupid and canned it

[craggy shoal]

Bokhara-style silk embroidered panel made by the Royal Embroiderer to Sultan Suleiman I of the Ottoman Empire, circa 1520-1530

[velvet summit]

Back in the day I mean, I think it was a 1999 cpu

[hoary zodiac]

late in development

SULEIMAN MENTIONED

[craggy shoal]

💀

[mortal grail]

I just love like

Reading all this shorthand medium tier conversation

[hoary zodiac]

WTF IS A EUROPEAN COALITION

[mortal grail]

Then suddenly Bokhara-style silk embroidered panel made by the Royal Embroiderer to Sultan Suleiman I of the Ottoman Empire, circa 1520-1530

Just a wall of like

[mortal grail]

A party of Europeans duh

[dusk knot]

@fresh nova I fixed the computer

[craggy shoal]

zoomers come up to millennials and be like "yo is this your Nuremberg-made, decorated, and gilded astrolabe by Erasmus Habicht, dated 1492, featuring astronomical tables calculated for the latitude of Nuremberg? 😭" and then show them this

[mortal grail]

YEAH STOP DOING THAT

WE'RE NICE PEOPLE

[proud jackal]

Who's nice

[mortal grail]

Buddha

[craggy shoal]

your mother

[proud jackal]

[craggy shoal]

(she gave me dinner)

https://tenor.com/cPmByU4IZH4.gif

[unreal trail]

[dusk knot]

👀

[mortal grail]

(She kinda nice yeah)

She made it with her George Foreman Indoor Outdoor BBQ Electric Grill [1500cm2 cooking surface, Variable temperature control & viewing gauge, Use with or without stand, Easy clean removable plate, Drip tray] Black

[craggy shoal]

idk man could've been a Roman hypocaust-heated terra cotta tabernae cooking stove, circa 1st century BC

[mortal grail]

Yeah I thought she left that somewhere

[craggy shoal]

"hey bro you forgot your Siemens 4-rope, 200-tonne capacity, single-drum, electrically operated, harbor crane, model SK 250/6"

oh yeah that's my bad thanks for catching that bro

fell out of my pocket my bad bro

[mortal grail]

I remember laughing about things like this when I was 12

💀

[craggy shoal]

underrated joke fr

funny asf idc

[mortal grail]

Hey laugh at what you want man

The world is a canvas of diversity

[craggy shoal]

When you felt your wallet slip out of your pocket but it was actually just your medieval siege engine known as the "Bourges trebuchet designed by the Italian architect and engineer Francesco di Giorgio Martini for King Charles VIII of France, circa 1475-1480, featuring a massive wooden frame with iron reinforcement, standing approximately 12.2 meters (40 feet) tall at its highest point, with an estimated throwing weight capacity of around 500 kilograms (1,100 pounds), and capable of launching stone projectiles over walls up to 10 meters (33 feet) high"

[fresh nova]

So what happened?

I've been waiting

[nocturne flicker]

And the tally is in for the day, my international fund is down .59% and the US fund is down 1.47% for a grand total of...a 1% decline in my portfolio value

[mortal grail]

Did well

[nocturne flicker]

And in other news Nvidia is already up about 3.3% in post market

[mortal grail]

Yeah people will be thinking "buy the dip buy the dip"

[pliant berry]

My portfolio actually went up like 1%

[proud jackal]

Can I borrow a dollar

[pliant berry]

[pliant berry]

Spent all my dollars sorry

[mortal grail]

Oh no he only has $1998 then

How will he afford 4090 Ti

[proud jackal]

[sinful blade]

Can I borrow a dollar from that dollar you borrowed

[cedar compass]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852302171286405201/1329854457432899646/Businessing.gif

[dusk knot]

@fresh nova I had to reseat the CPU and the CPU fans were not connected to the CPU fan header lol. The computer appears to be fully functional now.

[fresh nova]

What did you do JP

Glad you fixed it at least, I wouldn't have guessed that.

[dusk knot]

same.

you and ggood both helped

[mortal grail]

Nice

[fresh nova]

In reality that was an activity check of Techies to see who would help you & all the other Techies are going to be sent to JP's Dungeon.

Don't think I don't know what you're up to JP

[fresh nova]

Fever dream

[rancid juniper]

too bad

[dusk knot]

Sadly. Not all the techies are available

Some should maybe get demoted 😬

[dusk knot]

Carb

[dusk knot]

😆

[icy ore]

What is this?

What game

[rancid juniper]

Nightrunners, its free on steam

goated indie game ngl

[icy ore]

Oh hell yeah, must’ve gotten an update?

I played it when the demo first came out

It was great

[dusk knot]

As AI gets more advanced, I'll wait for the muscular version

[rancid juniper]

only a few patches here and there, still prologue

[icy ore]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2634950/Tokyo_Xtreme_Racer/ you tried this one yet?

Steam

Tokyo Xtreme Racer

"Tokyo Xtreme Racer" is a racing game set in a sealed-off future Tokyo, where you compete for the fastest speed in your customized cars on the highways that weave through the city, aiming to reach the top.Drive real cars on meticulously recreated courses, compete against powerful rivals,slip through other cars, and engage in spirit-wracking batt...

Price

$29.99

Recommendations

4845

▶ Play video

[mortal grail]

Idk he might have

[icy ore]

[rancid juniper]

i just uploaded a video on it an hour ago

xd

[icy ore]

yoooo

what’d you think of t

[mortal grail]

[rancid juniper]

its fun

[icy ore]

gonna go watch the vid now I guess smh

[fresh nova]

NOT ME NOT ME

I help I swear

https://tenor.com/view/dog-nervous-eyes-innocent-scared-gif-11802894372842921173

[mortal grail]

Maybe me

[rancid juniper]

thx

[icy ore]

game has a jammin ass soundtrack

[rancid juniper]

bro i got the dang tune up theme on repeat everytime

if this game implement multiplayer at some point whether its splitscreen or online freeroam sales would fly harder

[dusk knot]

Nicest case I've ever seen.

[tacit quiver]

bro has never seen the Lian Li A4 H2O

[dusk knot]

The what

[dusk knot]

Eeeeeeehhh

[tacit quiver]

best case ever

[tranquil pebble]

The adapter to attach fans to Radeon Instinct MI50 has arrived.

[tacit quiver]

this your new build though?

[tranquil pebble]

6 tflops of fp64 is gonna go brr

[rancid juniper]

huh? I AM THE ADMIN

sus

[mortal grail]

And on this day, frost discovered his 2nd personality

[icy ore]

hacked

[dusk knot]

Not mine. For an uncle.

[tacit quiver]

nice

[rancid juniper]

when i sleep and my alter ego takes over:

[tranquil pebble]

group policy, check there

[mortal grail]

You don't remind me of the usual frost who r u

[rancid juniper]

i am the hacked one

[tranquil pebble]

That message is what you get when Task Manager is disabled by group policy

[rancid juniper]

i see

ill check it

[tranquil pebble]

if you didn't set that policy, it is time for a malware cleaning

[tacit quiver]

or jump ship to linux 🙏

[tranquil pebble]

that is one way to clean the malware

the nuclear option lol

[tacit quiver]

i wish i could run macOS on my desktop without all the hackintosh jank

[tranquil pebble]

Linux is the closest you will get to non janky MacOS on desktop

[rancid juniper]

oh

i have windows 11 home

not pro

[tacit quiver]

unforunately yes 😔

[rancid juniper]

so group policy editor doesn't exist

[tranquil pebble]

malware is the only other option then

[rancid juniper]

im doing a virus scan tho

[tranquil pebble]

and without GPE, you might need a third party tool to reverse the damage

[rancid juniper]

interesting....

ok its fixed

[tranquil pebble]

yep group policies can be configured on any edition of Windows. The editor is what is exclusive to Pro+

As you can see, group policies use the registry

[rancid juniper]

scanning the system rn but it seems that theres nothing sus going on

might be a bug from windows imo

[tacit quiver]

why is edge using half a gb of ram 😭

or wait do you actually use edge

[rancid juniper]

its lightweight on my laptop

[tacit quiver]

oh i use edge too i just thought i was the only one

[rancid juniper]

i use firefox on my main desktop

ah alr

[tacit quiver]

• the way you had your task manager displaying it looked like a background process

edge is configured to start on boot for all windows installations in the background

so it's "faster" to open

[rancid juniper]

You cannot delete EDGE

[tacit quiver]

you can delete windows

ive been meaning to do it for like 2 months now just been busy with school and work

i also cant decide if i wanna do arch or just something simple

[rancid juniper]

im planning on getting into linux around next month

try it out a bit

[tacit quiver]

its a lot of fun to learn imp

imo*

[rancid juniper]

yea, maybe runs better too

[tacit quiver]

do you mean performance or stability

[rancid juniper]

performance

[tacit quiver]

it does have the potential to

[tranquil pebble]

Also Firefox is so fast on Linux like omg

[tacit quiver]

every time i've used linux i always end up using chromium 😔

[tranquil pebble]

graphics wise it performs better than on Windows

[tacit quiver]

if you can get graphics to work lol

thats only half a joke

although nvidia are playing nicer with linux recently, right?

[tranquil pebble]

amd really really cooked with the open source driver

[tranquil pebble]

yes but still not as plug and play as Radeon

[tacit quiver]

unfortunately i have an nvidia card

and im not getting rid of it :(

[tranquil pebble]

The good news for you is that Nvidia has opened up a bit with kernel modules

[pliant berry]

I don't think i've ever actually used used chromium on linux

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[pseudo patrol]

3 more days until 50 series release

i wonder how long itll take for scalpers to upsale the 5090

[nocturne flicker]

Yes you can

[frigid stag]

Can confirm

Trying to delete it bricked my windows

[worn wave]

People are preordering from scalpers on ebay

Sure that's against ebay TOS (selling an item not in your possession) but anyways

[frigid stag]

It’s probably bots

[worn wave]

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=rtx+5090&_sacat=0&LH_Complete=1&LH_Sold=1

[nocturne flicker]

Just uninstall Edge using Revo or something. No issues here

[worn wave]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

Just keep edge and use it as a pdf viewer

[frigid stag]

I tried through registry

Bricked my pc lol

[nocturne flicker]

You shouldn't be manually doing stuff in the registry unless you know what you are doing

[frigid stag]

The place where password screen should be ^

[nocturne flicker]

That is probably from touching something you shouldn't have

[frigid stag]

I knew what I had to do in registry. It was just a simple value change

It somehow messed up my pc so much that even my other os doesn’t work

[tranquil pebble]

I got bored and tracked down the source of why a package suddenly lost most of its file size lol

overlinking moment

[frigid stag]

Lol

I don’t know what half of this means but very cool

[rancid juniper]

☠️

[misty sparrow]

you know i'm right, there's no other explanation

[mortal grail]

[frigid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/error-windows-gif-19842810

my pc when i disabled ms edge 💀

[mortal grail]

You wouldn't have thought MS tried to copy ChromeOS too but ahah you'd be wrong

[misty sparrow]

I had to use ChromeOS and it's probably worse than every time I used a normal Linux distro

at least they didn't copy one quirk with ChromeOS where you basically couldn't do anything offline

[pseudo patrol]

5090 case with 2080 components

[proud jackal]

Few more days

Till scalpers buy all the cards

[misty sparrow]

why not go fight them yourself

go camp out physically

[random osprey]

cause theo doesnt have to worry about that, he just has to wait for the first 5090 giveaway to happen so he can win it 😔

[misty sparrow]

good luck

[random osprey]

theo always wins

how you think he got 2 4090's

[misty sparrow]

the nvidia mafia that resides underground

he appealed to the don

[unreal trail]

heh

[mortal grail]

Don Huang

"'Chu think we run a charity out there, kid?"
"Da more we rob, da more we reap."

[dusk knot]

hello, beautiful life forms

[misty sparrow]

reminds me of this in a way

actually someone should 3d print one of those gpu stilt things in the form of one of these

genius idea

[tranquil pebble]

What Ryzen is that?

[tranquil pebble]

the . is a fail, that just nukes the current working directory

[fresh timber]

idk, not my poto

[tranquil pebble]

definitely AM5 based on the IHS (and lack of pins)

[sweet phoenix]

I think i see ryzen 7 on it

Can't see which tho

[fresh timber]

its obvous its am5

not obvious which one

[tranquil pebble]

CPU abuse

[fresh timber]

i have a broken 3600

BRO

my gym teacher had to miss a day cause her eye was swolen.. now a few days later mines is starting to become red and causing head ach like feeling

[proud jackal]

sleep early or play games

[fresh timber]

play games

duh

[nocturne flicker]

I have a broken 5900x

[proud jackal]

i have a broken 14900k

[misty sparrow]

i am broken

[proud jackal]

[proud jackal]

we all are

[nocturne flicker]

I am broke

[nocturne flicker]

No more

Now I am wealt

[fresh timber]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-guy-my-new-character-gif-2777893510283028272

[nocturne flicker]

And now that I am wealt this is the part where I pull the ladder up yes?

[proud jackal]

@mortal grail you cursed it.

[pseudo patrol]

i wanna see specs of the 5070 ti master

everyone benching the 5090 but not the 5080 or 5070 💀

[tranquil pebble]

probably because the 5090 is the only interesting card in the 5000 series

[icy ore]

https://youtu.be/A86OxLX9KWU?si=jShLVpRNvXdIgeyN

[devout forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46XXFu_578
Okay this could get amazing

[icy ore]

Wild man

[hoary zodiac]

AMD trolling?

ok nvm these are pro laptops

Gonna cost way more than a gaming laptop

[lone mango]

Yeah I saw a hardware canucks video and it was really expensive

Its really good though

[hoary zodiac]

Thanks mods

[wise wigeon]

like its cool but like amd being kinda misleading

nothing new though

I guess they wanted to show off the efficiency

[hoary zodiac]

Ryzen mobile has always been pretty good

[misty sparrow]

oh come on i wanted to earn extra income per month

why

[hoary zodiac]

But like at that price point

You're not buying it for games

So pretty unfair comparison tbh

[wise wigeon]

its just they have this big title about how they beat it but its because the 4070 is power limited to be same wattage

so its a laptop 4070 at like 50w

and they cherrypicked hard

[hoary zodiac]

Wait

Bruh

💀

So it's just clickbait

Smh

[wise wigeon]

because most of the fps deltas are under 15 fps

and thats on a crippled 4070

40 series on laptops was efficient

not like half the usualy tdp efficient

[hoary zodiac]

The efficiency is nice but like

Nobody buys a gaming laptop with that mind

Especially not with that price tag

[hoary zodiac]

(and especially considering that gaming laptops are efficient enough to have decent battery life to be used as normal work laptop these days)

[wise wigeon]

not when 4070 laptops are sub 1k now

so its like winning

but completely different processors

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah AMD's trolling the consumers

[wise wigeon]

and it knecapped the 4070 to like 50 w

[hoary zodiac]

Ofc they used intel too

Which is quite literally the worst platform for mobile

[wise wigeon]

and most performance deltas are under 10-15 fps

[hoary zodiac]

At least in terms of efficiency

[wise wigeon]

efficiency is cool and all

[hoary zodiac]

And thermal design

It's not even a fair fight

Use a ryzen

[wise wigeon]

but 4070 laptops werent power hungry in the first place

[hoary zodiac]

Ofc it's gonna be thermally bottlenecked when it's paired with an intel

The most power hungry one too

[wise wigeon]

iirc 4070 laptop variant is like major diminishing returns past 100w

[hoary zodiac]

That goes with all laptops tbh

Especially higher tdp chips

Like the 4080

Which...

[wise wigeon]

yeah but before 40 series the wattage was pretty important for performance

[hoary zodiac]

You're just buying a compact desktop at that point

[wise wigeon]

like you wanted a 140w 3070 ti and not a 100w

because the 100w would run like a 3060

[hoary zodiac]

I mean is the 3070ti even worth it?

[wise wigeon]

i got a 3070 ti laptop for 1100

[hoary zodiac]

Ok that's real good

That's in the high 3060 range

Free vram

[wise wigeon]

i mean 4070 laptop was equivalent to the 3070 ti

so the only majorn advandtages were frame gen and the tdp

[hoary zodiac]

But over the 4060 tho?

[wise wigeon]

because the 4070 was way more efficient and cooler

[hoary zodiac]

Feels like the 4060 would be a better buy tbh

[wise wigeon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITmbT6reDsw

as you can tell from the title it was not a large uplift

[hoary zodiac]

isn't that just

barely better than a 4060 then

[wise wigeon]

like a 4060 desktop maybe

the 3070 ti laptop is like 3060 ti desktop levels

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpS9mR2UJ9E

not sure how reputable this is but

it doesn't seem to be that significant

[wise wigeon]

i trust jarrod a lot mor

[hoary zodiac]

oh wait there's a 4070 vs 4060

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5drb9Dbe_ag&t=87s

[wise wigeon]

so a more substantial difference

[hoary zodiac]

I still feel like the 4070 should've had more vram

[wise wigeon]

tell nvidia that

[hoary zodiac]

feels like the vram is gimping it

especially with newer titles

like really?

4060 and 4070 both have 8GB?

🤨

[wise wigeon]

maybe if amd wasn't such a non threat wed have better gpus

[hoary zodiac]

I think they just care about consoles tbh

radeon mobile team 😴

[wise wigeon]

i mean

if we're talking console sales

technically nvidia clears

[hoary zodiac]

switch?

[wise wigeon]

switch

and its not particularly close

[hoary zodiac]

damn

that's pathetic

[wise wigeon]

it was basically and android tablet chip

[hoary zodiac]

ps5 is more technically impressive but like

consoles these days are... very mid in value

only thing helping is that the low end pc market (brand new) is practically non existent now

[wise wigeon]

remember when they were flaunting tflops on xbox and ps5

console guys were like omg its a 2080ti

[hoary zodiac]

they've been using that cope since the ps4/xbone days

[misty sparrow]

at least ps4/xbox one had killer apps\

these don't

[hoary zodiac]

ps4 at least had a reason to exist

nowadays...

ehhhhhh

just get a pc

[wise wigeon]

eh ps5 has decent games

xbox genuinely has little reason to exist

[hoary zodiac]

xbox is just

a worse pc

[misty sparrow]

if a console is over a decade old and is still getting new games and support, that's both a testament to how good the system really is and how bad this generation really is

[hoary zodiac]

we have gamepass on pc

👍

[wise wigeon]

like ps5 just pop a gen 4 nvme

xbox lemme buy that $250 1tb expansion card lol

[misty sparrow]

i can probably buy 4TB with $250

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say the ps5 is only good value because of how inflated the pc market is these days

[fresh timber]

Ps5 is good

I’d rather ps5 over cheap pc

[hoary zodiac]

we don't have a mainstream entry level card

[wise wigeon]

yeah its good if you just want a game box

[misty sparrow]

on a discount especially for disc version it's really damn good

[hoary zodiac]

except for the 6500XT which is

dogcrap

[misty sparrow]

i've seen OG disc version hit $300 sometimes

[still sun]

Mmm you do though

[wise wigeon]

i mean ima be real the gpu in current gen is more like a 6600

[still sun]

The 3050 right?

[fresh timber]

Ps5 just works out of box, plays games, out of box experience on a tv is nice, has controller friendly media apps, lets you cast from your phone to it for media, in my opinion better games spider man exclusives and such that drop then there games that are good in console and get poopy ports

[hoary zodiac]

right

gonna check the price

[wise wigeon]

so you can probably build a ps5 tier pc for around 500

[hoary zodiac]

ok that's not too bad

[wise wigeon]

you would just be skimping on things

[fresh timber]

I prefer to use my ps5 on my tv to watch YouTube for example, just way easier than using a pc

[hoary zodiac]

but like

6GB vram

yikes

[fresh timber]

Doesn’t beat ps5 anyways

[hoary zodiac]

actually no this is really bad tbh

[still sun]

Ah

[fresh timber]

Windows will never get close to console expirence

[wise wigeon]

bro what

[hoary zodiac]

the 6500XT had more vram

[wise wigeon]

i would argue a PC is way easier to watch youtube from

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlobQZECwxE

[misty sparrow]

youtube on PS5 feels like it has more frequent and longer ads for some strange reason

[still sun]

You have a phanteks case?

[misty sparrow]

than PC with no adblock

[fresh timber]

My expirence with both

[hoary zodiac]

not presently

[still sun]

Ah

[hoary zodiac]

ok

turns out

[still sun]

I have a P500A that moves all the air

[wise wigeon]

bruh my stuff comes in wednesday except the case

[hoary zodiac]

the 3050 isn't much better than a 1660TI

[fresh timber]

O I notice that too, but I still rather use a controler friendly app that a keyboard mouse optimized browser

[hoary zodiac]

what the hell is this stagnation

[still sun]

Every last inch of air in the universe

[hoary zodiac]

nvidia and amd doing the same slop

[wise wigeon]

well actually i havent bought ram and a cooler yet but

[hoary zodiac]

6500XT and 3050 are the same type of crap

the low end is actually dead

unless you go used

(you can get a used 5700XT/1080ti for the same price as a 3050/6500XT new)

[still sun]

Its a starter GPU for a reason though

[fresh timber]

I do use my ps5 depending on what I’m doing, if I go to my dads I bring my ps5, the size and weight make it like the no brainer for travel

Bringing a pc, haha funny

[hoary zodiac]

starter gpus used to perform better

[wise wigeon]

eh you can still get 6600 for 200 and ocasionally under

[still sun]

The 1080TI is a friggin power hog

[hoary zodiac]

and offered better performance/$

[wise wigeon]

remember 2020

[still sun]

The 1080TI is barely still relevant id argue, its very old, no driver support, and there are more efficient cards out there

[wise wigeon]

when these things were over 500

[still sun]

Yeah

[wise wigeon]

[still sun]

I have a 580

[hoary zodiac]

5700XT is usually cheaper

[still sun]

And newer

I love that people still throw that card on the table though

[wise wigeon]

is a 5700xt faster than the 6600

[fresh timber]

It still has driver updates

[still sun]

They really really want it to be immortal

[hoary zodiac]

?

[still sun]

It does? Tf?

[hoary zodiac]

that's not why

people buy it because it's cheap

[hoary zodiac]

iirc the XT beats it

[sinful blade]

They’re still this much half the time

[hoary zodiac]

well

6600XT > 5700XT iirc

or at least matches it

[still sun]

Yeah i was looking at upgrades and considered it for a second until i found far more efficient options

[sinful blade]

The 5700xt is more power efficient than 1080ti

[fresh timber]

I ❤️ my rx6600 in my server

[hoary zodiac]

it really just depends on the used market

[wise wigeon]

i guess it depends on if you can get a used 5700xt

[fresh timber]

Yeah, idk if a 1080tj is worth powering on anymore

[still sun]

If it can sip the electricity and pump frames and stay cool, thats all i need

[hoary zodiac]

that's why we just throw all the models out there

used markets are not stable

[misty sparrow]

i mean if 3080 is still $300 that's saying something

[wise wigeon]

because the 6600 is close enough that i'd pick it just for more reliablilty

[misty sparrow]

actually no it's more $400

[still sun]

300 dollar 3080s?

[hoary zodiac]

the hell?

[misty sparrow]

i keep seeing 3080 for $400

[hoary zodiac]

what is this inflation and stagnation

this is why consoles are still decent value

this

[misty sparrow]

is $300 a bad price too?

i keep seeing them both in that range for both bids and buy now on ebay

[hoary zodiac]

It's not a bad price in present market conditions

[wise wigeon]

i mean to be fair a 3080 curb stomps

[misty sparrow]

this is 10GB model too

[still sun]

Cause I am looking at RX6800s to replace sad noises my RX580 8 gig

[still sun]

Oh thats why i took it off the table lmao

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if you can find a new 7800XT for cheaper

I don't see many 6000 series out there for cheap

at least anything used

[wise wigeon]

7800xt prob cheaper than a 6800 in some markets

[hoary zodiac]

aside from 6600/6600XT

[still sun]

I found a few for 360-370

[hoary zodiac]

ehhhh

that's kinda mid

[wise wigeon]

i'd take the 3080

over a almost 400 6800

[still sun]

I’m after the VRAM too, i like the idea of keeping my resale value

[fresh timber]

Idk if I’d call it reliable, it’s better than it used to driver wise

[hoary zodiac]

6750XT is $319 new

weaker card but still

brand new

[wise wigeon]

i mean in general the 3080 is still gonna be faster its just the vram

[fresh timber]

2 years ago I had a 6600 in my main rig, driver time out after driver time out, idk why it kept doing that, recently on newer drivers I no longer time out from a simple alt tab, so that’s a plus

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say the 6800XT would be decent if it's under $350

[wise wigeon]

plus dlss4 is backwards compatible

[hoary zodiac]

pretty meh for over

[still sun]

Alright alright i have a few months before I can justify pulling the trigger but ill keep it in minf

[hoary zodiac]

what about used 7800XT?

[wise wigeon]

dlss4 looking kinda juicy ngl

[hoary zodiac]

at that point you might be able to find used 7800/7900XT tbh

from people upgrading

might*

[still sun]

You think they will dip under 400 in the next few months?

[hoary zodiac]

if this generation doesn't end up being a huge stagnation that is...

considering tariffs and the general disappointment of current gen gpus

[sweet phoenix]

I just got here, but 6700xt/6750xt, 6800/xt, 6900xt/6950xt, 3080 12gb/ti, 7700xt/7800xt/4070 is everything in that range i think

[misty sparrow]

-# new profile change? where'd the frog go

[sweet phoenix]

Into the frog bucket

[misty sparrow]

i liked the frog, rip

[still sun]

I’ll definitely have a look at all of these

Lots of time to research

[tranquil pebble]

Cirno froze it

[misty sparrow]

who?

[still sun]

3080 is too expensive lol

4070 is insanely expensive for what you get, jesus

[misty sparrow]

but still what would be a good price for a used 3080

[craggy shoal]

You're gonna have a blast when you learn about Blackwell

[still sun]

Im seeing them for like 500

[still sun]

Oh ive seen lol

[void pendant]

is anyone here good with networking issues?

[craggy shoal]

There's a whole channel for that stuff #networks-security-and-home-servers

[dusk knot]

Hm

[craggy shoal]

Hm

[dusk knot]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-sleepy-head-ikea-bed-bedtime-gif-16576805

[lone mango]

[worn wave]

Shameless plug for my question in #old-monitors-and-tv before I go to bed 👉👈

[lone mango]

What monitor you have

I had an old monitor that would flicker like that

Its like a brightness flicker

Or like a gamma flicker i guess

For me it was an old msi va monitor from 2017

Weirdly enough it started happening after I moved to this crappy old apartment

The power over there was weird

Could be a coincidence but it be like that fr

[worn wave]

Acer nitro xv27uxbiprzzsomethingthwbdkfnsn

[worn wave]

*XZ272U V

[fresh nova]

I did it

2K hours

[lone mango]

So true

[proud jackal]

[chrome mirage]

Found this on Facebook marketplace

[devout forum]

Quite uncomfortable though

[sage sluice]

Sold

[mental yoke]

hi

[icy ore]

Dang I’ve never even played it

Wish it were on gamepass lol

[sage sluice]

Imagine playing a single game for that long i could never

I have a life i swear

[icy ore]

I don’t even know if I have half that many hours in my most played game ever

Which is probably like bo2 or something

[sage sluice]

I play comp so thats my excuse 😔

[icy ore]

Oh yeah, nice

I have a buddy that is obsessed with smash

Play him and beat him up for me

I don’t think I’ve ever beaten him

[hoary zodiac]

I don't need it I don't need it

I'm extremely tempted to get this to make a stupid cluster

[sage sluice]

Shi if youd like some pointers feel free to ask lol

[elfin mural]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/102701/nvidia-teases-dlss-frame-generation-for-geforce-rtx-30-series-owners/index.html

ayo

all? that means.. 20 series too?

for now nvidia only mentions 30

[mortal grail]

Probably means 40 series is later gonna get multi frame gen

Oh god that jumbles my brain

Wtf

Does that mean the new tensors aren't actually 2.5x faster

That's exactly what it'd mean

Wtf

[hoary zodiac]

Based?

Diminishes Blackwell's value even more but I'm all for it

[elfin mural]

Essentially yes lmao

Nvidia is just covering with smoke screens rn

[fresh timber]

Their stock dropped

Nvidia is buns gpu

[elfin mural]

The chinese AI company shook Nvidia's stock

[mortal grail]

LMAO

Ada had a 2x tensor uplift

[elfin mural]

Market cap down 600b btw

[mortal grail]

Does this mean blackwell is horse crap

Am I crazy

[elfin mural]

Probably

[hoary zodiac]

If anyone's cheap enough to buy used hardware it's the Chinese...

[elfin mural]

There's a reason I don't like refreshes

[hoary zodiac]

They're gonna scoop up all the older cards

Now that nvidia practically gave them free performance

[elfin mural]

The chinese company spent only 5% compared to what OpenAI spent

lol

And got a BETTER AI THAN CHATGPT

[hoary zodiac]

It's about national pride to them

[fresh timber]

Legs revolt

[elfin mural]

Their model is also open source

[hoary zodiac]

Based?

[elfin mural]

Anyone can use it for free

[fresh timber]

What I’m hearing is, chat gpt takes it and uses it and calls it chat gpt 5.0

[elfin mural]

lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Chinese innovation be like

wait for the west to make something new

make it better and steamroll the competition

[elfin mural]

Huawei already has their own phones

That are nice

Chinese node

Chinese SOC

[hoary zodiac]

What's their process?

[elfin mural]

7nm

Not cutting edge but good enough

Huawei also started selling SSDs in south korea

[hoary zodiac]

The Chinese have 7nm?

[elfin mural]

With the chinese nand

[hoary zodiac]

👀

[elfin mural]

Ya

They use DUV

[hoary zodiac]

Ahahhaha

[elfin mural]

Struggling to go lower tho

But imagine

[hoary zodiac]

China's catching up stupid fast

[elfin mural]

Making 7nm without EUV

[hoary zodiac]

Weren't we at like

Core 2 levels a couple years ago

[elfin mural]

YMTC is waiting on canon to make the new EUV machine

[hoary zodiac]

Or was that just x86 clones

[elfin mural]

Non american company, so they're set on buying that

[fresh timber]

Chinese gpu suck

They slow

[elfin mural]

Chinese GPUs are still behind

[fresh timber]

Worst drivers than Intel

[elfin mural]

But huawei arm SOCs are not too bad

[hoary zodiac]

How is Chinese nand?

Is it like

Elpida slop memory

[elfin mural]

Cutting edge

[mortal grail]

I'm wrong

The 4090 had 4x better tensors

Over 3090

[elfin mural]

It's actually more advanced than micron and samsung rn

[mortal grail]

And the 5090 has 2x better

So wtf does this mean

If the 3090 can now do frame gen wtf

[hoary zodiac]

Chips Act vs the entirety of China

[mortal grail]

4090 mfg x3 when???

[hoary zodiac]

Fight

[rancid juniper]

Did I hear elpida?

🗿

[hoary zodiac]

Does elpida make anything good

[rancid juniper]

Doubt it

[hoary zodiac]

They're crap even paired with bottom bin cpu/gpus

🥱

[icy ore]

[rancid juniper]

If you have elpida on GPU you know it's going to be garbage

[hoary zodiac]

Recycling bin

Literally

[elfin mural]

https://fpt-semiconductor.com/how-will-canons-release-of-lithographic-printers-in-2024-affect-the-us-china-situation/

[hoary zodiac]

Nobody wants the silicon so some random chinese gpu manufacturer got their hands on the crappy gpu dies and threw them on a pcb with elpida

[elfin mural]

Political post but ignore that

[hoary zodiac]

Wait

Canon?

[elfin mural]

What matters is canon's lithographics printers

[hoary zodiac]

They're into silicon now?

The hell?

[elfin mural]

Will make great strides

Yeah

[rancid juniper]

Canon????

[hoary zodiac]

Funny camera company

They're Japanese tho so would they be that comfortable selling to the Chinese?

[rancid juniper]

This is the same company btw that made criterion games back then

Criterion made renderware, the engine that brought you GTA 3, San Andreas, and vice city to life

Canon be going places

[hoary zodiac]

Canon has better engineering than Intel 🥱

Thanks silicon valley slop corporations

[elfin mural]

Intel was once innovative

[hoary zodiac]

Thanks for nothing

[elfin mural]

Horrible decisions from the CEOs ruined it

[hoary zodiac]

Until bulldozer tbh

[rancid juniper]

Intel: "I used to rule the world"

[fresh timber]

Intel stock is poo

[hoary zodiac]

Intel started trolling the consumers with quad cores since sandy bridge

[elfin mural]

we were supposed to get 10nm by 2014

[hoary zodiac]

Maybe we would've had that 10GHz Pentium

Just saying

[rancid juniper]

I'm calling it, Intel's CPU situation is as bad as FX, probably worse

[hoary zodiac]

Intel's only afloat because of their massive presence in the semiconductor

[rancid juniper]

Yep

[elfin mural]

and companies like lenovo, acer, asus, hp, dell

buying cpus in bulk

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah Intel's been trying to cut AMD out (or any competition) since the 80s

AMD sued them for monopolistic practices

[elfin mural]

became a duopoly

xd

amd+intel

[rancid juniper]

Nvidia x86 CPU

Now $1499

[hoary zodiac]

AMD is surprisingly resilient

[rancid juniper]

8c/16t

[hoary zodiac]

We still use AMD64

[elfin mural]

nvidia is making arm pc cpus

in the future

[hoary zodiac]

AMD just keeps hitting intel on the head every decade

[hoary zodiac]

We really need arm

X86 is so stagnant

[frigid stag]

Amd didn’t make a good cpu till zen 3 ish

[hoary zodiac]

Most important we need compatibility

[rancid juniper]

Their cpus gonna cost an arm and a leg

[hoary zodiac]

Disagree

[rancid juniper]

Zen 2 imo is when things picked up

[fresh timber]

2300x best cpu wdym

[hoary zodiac]

Ryzen was good enough to get intel to start making 6c/12t

[elfin mural]

zen 1 kinda gave intel a wake up call

zen 2 made intel begin to move

[frigid stag]

It just had a ton of cores it was slower than ivy bridge

[hoary zodiac]

Zen 1 was dogcrap in performance yes

[frigid stag]

They didn’t do anything

Just coffee lake 2.0

[hoary zodiac]

But it still kicked intel in the balls

[elfin mural]

ik but intel still needed to add more cores

[frigid stag]

It was 2 and it was unstable

[rancid juniper]

More cores = better

[frigid stag]

Till the ring is unstable

[hoary zodiac]

The performance wasn't great but the consumer recognised that having more than 4 cores is actually a really good idea

[rancid juniper]

Fr

[elfin mural]

that's around the time zen 2 came

[frigid stag]

Reviewers shilled the high end ones by testing games at ultra to show how “close” it is to intel

[fresh timber]

Still good cpus in my opinion with the right use case

[elfin mural]

skylake gave us 4c/8t for top consumer platform

zen 1 was weak but you could get 8 cores

[hoary zodiac]

Want more cores?

[frigid stag]

So did fx

[hoary zodiac]

Pay a stupid amount of money for skylake HEDT!!!

[elfin mural]

or kaby lake rather

[frigid stag]

Skylake hedt was only like 350

For a 6 core

[hoary zodiac]

For just the cpu?

[elfin mural]

but we're talking consumer scope

[frigid stag]

Compared to 7700k wasn’t that expensive

[hoary zodiac]

Individual cpus yes

But when you factor in the motherboards

The price shoots up

[frigid stag]

They only got expensive with the high end CPU’s like 10 and 12 core stuff

[elfin mural]

boards tho

[frigid stag]

There’s some cheap x99’s like for under 200

[elfin mural]

still, during zen 1

when you could get 8 cores for less money

[frigid stag]

Ye but what’s the goal

[elfin mural]

just sheer core count

[frigid stag]

Ye if you’re using it for server or something ig it made sense

Or video editing

[hoary zodiac]

Or streaming

[elfin mural]

yknow most consumers aren't really bright

[frigid stag]

Ye for 2nd pc it’s good

[elfin mural]

see the fx for reference

but it was still enough to make intel move from 6 cores HEDT to 8 cores HEDT

without people buying zen 1 back then we wouldn't have zen 3 and now, zen 5 x3d

if no one bought zen 1 intel would've been so lazy

[hoary zodiac]

FX was never decent

Sandy bridge without hyper threading can kill it with ease

[elfin mural]

all people want were cheap computer parts

FX answered that

(even tho they're weak)

[hoary zodiac]

A fair fight would be sandy bridge with hyper threading

Ryzen was a lot more than bulldozer 2.0

[elfin mural]

back then you could like

spend 100 bucks and get cpu+board

a lil more on some ram, case, psu

[rancid juniper]

Yesterday someone was playing a UE5 game on an FX 8350 + GTX 960

[elfin mural]

and you have a computer

[hoary zodiac]

Unlike bulldozer it didn't have garbage performance

Yes the Ryzen 7 1700x was weak

But so was kaby lake

[elfin mural]

FX cpus, the lower end ones, they went for as low as $50 new

[hoary zodiac]

At least relative to the performance gains we would get later

[elfin mural]

back in around 2011-2012

[hoary zodiac]

I doubt that'd fare as well these days tbh

Coffee lake was the nail in the coffin

Wasn't an immediate death

[rancid juniper]

Coffee was mid

[hoary zodiac]

But once programs started using more cores

Well...

No point

[elfin mural]

i mean zen 2 wasn't great either, but it was a good improvement

[fresh timber]

4 cores is fun

[elfin mural]

and you had platform longevity

you could get 5700X3D

[fresh timber]

Tbh I can survive with 4c4t

[elfin mural]

and never have to swap board or ram

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah yeah yeah don't trust AMD

[elfin mural]

but still get modern performance

[hoary zodiac]

At the time they were shady as hell

[fresh timber]

Pray ur board wasn’t poop

[elfin mural]

ik but you get my point

amd got set straight

but then again most B series boards back in zen 2 were meh

or crap

[fresh timber]

I’ll have my vrms explode

;)))

[elfin mural]

but there's the longevity standpoint

[hoary zodiac]

Wait 2-3 years for 5600 and 5700x to release after Zen 3 launch

I hate AMD

[elfin mural]

intel is good too

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair you wouldn't buy a b350 for an 1800x

[fresh timber]

Wasn’t b550 and all that not really support to support earlier CPUs

[mortal grail]

I hate monopsonies

[elfin mural]

and im talking about zen 2, not zen 1 era boards

[fresh timber]

They have better encoders

Quick sync mogs

[hoary zodiac]

But still b350 vrms are very bad by today's standards

Even b450 standards

[elfin mural]

B350 never got updated to support 5000 cpus anyway

So those aren't in the topic

[hoary zodiac]

I'd say b450 is the sweet spot

[hoary zodiac]

I don't trust those vrms

Unless it's like a 5600x max

[elfin mural]

Then I'm a bit rusty on info

I wouldn't do it tho xd

[hoary zodiac]

At least speaking for the average b350

Imo a R7 is pushing it

[fresh timber]

I think am4 is cool and all, but you really had to pick the right motherboard to get enough from it

[hoary zodiac]

Considering how much slop was on b350 and b450

[fresh timber]

My a320m is not supporting a dam 5800x3d

[hoary zodiac]

Some of those boards are actually dogcrap

I'd rather get an A520

[elfin mural]

If say I built a pc with 3600x and a good B450, I'd be able to upgrade to 5700X3D a couple years later and remain happy

Otherwise, just go zen 5

I mean am5

(pcs make my head hurt sometimes)

[hoary zodiac]

7800X3D is like haswell

9800X3D is like skylake

[fresh timber]

I think around that gen was when the longevity stand point really kicks in

[hoary zodiac]

Doesn't 5700X3D outperform Coffee Lake?

[elfin mural]

yes

It performs neck and neck like 7600

[rancid juniper]

Intel's goal is to make the CPU into the longest rectangle ever with each gen

[elfin mural]

R5 7600, not i5 7600

9900kf is nice if you bought it when it was new

[hoary zodiac]

...by a lot?

[elfin mural]

Upgrading from 8700k to 9900kf is a bit weird

My point exactly

[rancid juniper]

Here I am using 13600k 5.2GHZ with 3000MHZ C14

[hoary zodiac]

9900kf is same msrp as 5700x3d no?