general-chat

[fresh timber]

Theirs a difference

[storm narwhal]

There's a handheld for everything

[fresh timber]

Iv made windows handhelds a steam deck

[storm narwhal]

Nothing is a one size fit all

[fresh timber]

It’s fun

The extra poneys is fun

[devout forum]

Realistically having Windows on a handheld solves a lot of my problems

cuz then I don't need a separate laptop

[fresh timber]

Windows solved my anti cheat problem

[storm narwhal]

Yeah it'll def solve those issues

[fresh timber]

I don’t even think steam deck on windows can run some of my games kek

[storm narwhal]

Windows just on a controller is a little bit of an oof

[fresh timber]

It barley ran in the legion go

[fresh timber]

Once again, theirs handhelds with touchpads that aren’t the steam deck

[storm narwhal]

The legion ones are dinky tho

[devout forum]

cuz honestly the alternative is a 2in1 laptop

[fresh timber]

It’s serviceable

[storm narwhal]

Fair

[storm narwhal]

But dinky

[fresh timber]

Ooo

[devout forum]

And ngl the size difference isn't even that big

[storm narwhal]

Oh look at that

[fresh timber]

How will you play

Wireless controller?

[storm narwhal]

Minisforum makes a 2in1 for gaming

[fresh timber]

Peak

[devout forum]

Ayo?

[storm narwhal]

Then yeah maybe wireless controller

Yup

[devout forum]

link maybe?

You peaked my interest

[storm narwhal]

Or something really stupid

Get a mini PC mount it

Oh link yeah one sec

[devout forum]

okay so it's either something like the Ally X
Or a 2in1 with a 155H

[fresh timber]

Ally x has the best battery life

155h is mid

Look at the Msi claw 😭😭

[storm narwhal]

https://store.minisforum.com/products/minisforum-v3

[fresh timber]

They screen is going to be rough to run at full res

[storm narwhal]

I think there's a different one

[fresh timber]

Just wait for z2 extreme

[devout forum]

it's 1080p

780M MIGHT be able to do it

MIGHT

[dusk knot]

@rancid juniper the rumors were right. They announced the switch 2 today

[devout forum]

What is undeniably rough is the 16 gigs of soldered RAM

so it kinda feels like a no-go

[storm narwhal]

Yeah there's the v3 and the v3 SE I linked

[fresh timber]

Might, iv had fiddles with games at 1080p in some

[devout forum]

It's cool, but it's nowhere near powerful enough

[fresh timber]

720p go brrr

[rancid juniper]

Fr, they tripled down

[devout forum]

Buuuuut

a 1650 equivalent can do 1080p kind of

[dusk knot]

It doesn't look like a toy anymore

[devout forum]

Yeah no the same problem remains

[storm narwhal]

A laptop 780m can do 1080 but yuh

[devout forum]

Maybe Z2 Extreme can do it when it's out?

Either way

I guess the solution would be an eGPU setup at the rest room

and just keep it there for gaming

[fresh timber]

I was going to do egpu setup

Arc b580 would be fire if overhead not a problem

[storm narwhal]

Minipc with egpu dock

[devout forum]

where screen and battery

[storm narwhal]

mounted behind a monitor with the egpu laying somewhere

[devout forum]

Like the issue with mini-PCs in general is

Laptop hardware
Desktop power source
Desktop screen

Yes there are exceptions, no they don't count if they cost more than a 4080 laptop

so yeah I might just need to get a 2in1 and just deal with it

[fresh timber]

Gaming while somebody’s flat lining

[devout forum]

To be fair
Dang son

[devout forum]

nah it's for when we waiting for transports

(It's a private patient transport + emergency services company)

Most of the time we transporting people to and from hospitals

Technically we COULD be called for actual emergencies, but that's unlikely as the state paramedics do those jobs

On like a 3 hour long drive, having a handheld or an ultrabook with me would be really useful

I'd obviously get a big-ass battery bank and a good cable to charge on the go tho

3m Club3D cable will be more than enough to charge it at full juice
Same with a laptop

[fresh timber]

Hookup to the alternator

[devout forum]

There are 240v outlets in the back...

[fresh timber]

240v rated battery bank!!

[devout forum]

but I don't think my boss would approve draining the work battery of the ambulance charging that thing

[fresh timber]

lol

Yeah

[devout forum]

ultimately, the dilemma remains

handheld or 14" ultrabook

[fresh timber]

A glance

I’d go ultrabook

Handhelds get boring real fast

Didn’t even have mines for a week

[devout forum]

it's also a 2in1

so like

it's more utility

bigger screen too

[fresh timber]

Theirs tiny 780m computers

https://c4.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_fill,g_auto,q_auto,f_auto,h_460,w_695/eh9yb5yoxxrcsulj9ngy

Also has this

[devout forum]

Yeah, I guess ultrabook it is

Even if it costs twice as much

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/sakurasou-sakurasou-no-pet-wake-up-shiino-gif-21364131

[fresh timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1264792373515255819/1266597733083512833/attachment.gif

[sweet phoenix]

Any word on what gpu is in it?

Forever ago we were told nvidia offered them a 1080 equivelant for it

The switch 2 is the only console id consider buying

[dusk knot]

No. But it will be twice as fast.

It's another tegra chip

[sweet phoenix]

Twice as fast is still embarrassing lmao

[dusk knot]

And DlSS Will be used

[sweet phoenix]

That'll still be worse than an Xbox series s

Miles worse if I'm remembering right

[dusk knot]

It will be.....

[sweet phoenix]

The switch is roughly equivelant to an r7 240

Lmfao

Wait no

It's about half the performance of a GT 730

So now it'll be about the performance of a 730 WOOOO

[velvet summit]

when you cant even say 🗣️
my name

[devout forum]

Bacca

[sweet phoenix]

Oh

The switch 2 is 3.1 teraflops

Were fine

[devout forum]

imagine 10 years ago someone telling you that Intel one day will make a CPU line so bad it causes a shortage of AMD chips

[sweet phoenix]

Thats the upwards limit of it ig

And that's when docked

[sweet phoenix]

Lol

10 years ago I was 9 though, so....

[velvet summit]

do you know what the switch was

around 400 it seems

giga flops

ok so it is a huge jump from the original switch, but still underpowered compared to the rest of the industry

so nintendo hasnt done anything unexpected

or actually

oh it is higher than the steam deck apparently

hmm

[sweet phoenix]

I'm not 100% sure it's that high

It could be worse

[mental yoke]

Which gpu

[sinful blade]

My igpu is better than this

[devout forum]

4080

it's come down in price when used to the point of potentially being available

brand new it starts at 475k HUF, lowest used price is roughly 370k

[mental yoke]

Holy crap 😭

It's 900 usd here

[agile kayak]

I want to buy high spped , desktop for sqlserver 2022 with 2 remote desktop connectivity can you recommend desktop sepcs and server licence please. i am looking for 256 / 128 GB ram and 2 /4 TB hard disk

[devout forum]

923 here

for the cheapest used one

[sweet phoenix]

Look at tech deals rq

[mental yoke]

Well 959 to be accurate, but still you saved a lot

16gb too?

[devout forum]

ofc

all 4080s are

but I didn't buy it yet

hoping prices drop a little more before I do

[dusk knot]

Hm

[mental yoke]

Oh never knew that

Sorry still kinda new to the tech scene

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/256207996005122050/1329503923060609034/image.png?ex=678a9484&is=67894304&hm=a008b9a398be3dfaa7a084c33346901763c4130cf3b518fdf567cc8d27eceeea&

[tranquil pebble]

tfw the card I ordered has more fp64 than that has fp16

[safe cape]

https://www.techpowerup.com/331180/montech-unveils-new-heritage-pc-case-series-combining-leather-and-metal @mortal grail @opaque sedge MICRO ATX / ATX PSU

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-3851471549750385303

[fresh timber]

hi

hi wyd chat

[frigid stag]

💀 that’s....not bad

[velvet summit]

unironically kinda worth it if you need a netbook?

[nocturne flicker]

Aha, I think I found what was causing the tint change

[heavy dew]

@velvet summit so the workstation has dual Xenon E5-2670s and the machine had 128 GB of ram and not 96 as I’ve said before

[nocturne flicker]

I had shadow boost off on my monitor and moving around on a black or mostly black screen caused the shadow boost to trigger

For some reason

[elfin mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9uK4D35FlM

not bad, not bad

[fresh timber]

TLDR

Plz

[elfin mural]

a valid 4060 competitor

[fresh timber]

Mama I’m chasing a ghost

[elfin mural]

with more vram

[fresh timber]

Ooo

Overhead problems?

[elfin mural]

drivers might improve it

but yeah, drivers need some further work

no crashes

[velvet summit]

rip david lynch

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/256207996005122050/1329505574823661658/IMG_2330.jpg?ex=678a960e&is=6789448e&hm=ecffde29d296efd4c5713f6b11ebaec484f3f27c6ef1655c518d4f10321ccee2&

[heavy dew]

Hey look a box

[heavy dew]

Wait a minute I’m selling one of these

I think

[unreal trail]

lol

I stole thebox from Best Buy dumpster and posted online for clout 🧌

[proud jackal]

[rancid juniper]

Anyboy bought assetto corsa evo?

[lone mango]

https://youtu.be/U22zM_tr-CU

[dusk knot]

My brother

Seems you're the only person here who likes racing

Lol

[rancid juniper]

e

[icy ore]

Is it good

[rancid juniper]

i haven't bought it

"yet"

[dusk knot]

The time is now

[icy ore]

Hmmm

[dusk knot]

Hmm yes

[icy ore]

I want a racing game with an open world mode but not forza

[dusk knot]

Well this is a racing sim

Not a "game"

[icy ore]

Yeah unfortunately

[dusk knot]

You guys better have a racing setup, not a Xbox controller

😬

[rancid juniper]

sounds like Need for Speed

or The Crew

[icy ore]

I tried a wheel and didn’t like it too much

[lone mango]

Kinda is, they now have events and will add tuning

You can still have a sim with game stuff

[craggy shoal]

This is a sad thing to open Discord to :/

[dusk knot]

What type of wheel?

[lone mango]

[icy ore]

G920

[dusk knot]

Logitech? Lol

That's why

[icy ore]

Yeah exactly

[lone mango]

The g pro is actually pretty good

[dusk knot]

You need a wheel from fanatec

[craggy shoal]

Rip Fanatec

Thrustmaster is good if you're on a budget

[rancid juniper]

ah this one is slightly cheaper than steam (from fanatical)

[lone mango]

Nah man just get the introductory offer on steam

[rancid juniper]

what

[lone mango]

They def need support

Its $34 on steam

I never used that site but it might have charges on top of that 26 like how some other sites do

[rancid juniper]

ngl its early access, i'd rather pay cheaper

[lone mango]

But you get the full release for free, its worth paying a little more to them rather than a reseller

Like with bungie dlcs i get it

Bungie doesnt deserve money but kunos does

I dont play assetto, im a gt fanboy but I respect kunos because they are way smaller than polyphony

They dont have a ton of content but they do honest work. they grind

If you dont want it now maybe wait until the first content drop to get it or smth

Or get it now on sale and wait to play it for bugs to be ironed out

[rancid juniper]

bruh

[lone mango]

Hot take ik but it feels dirty to give the money to key stealers instead of companies that deserve it. My friend gifted me helldivers 2 from a key website but it was only slightly cheaper than getting it on steam. Felt a little bad because arrowhead does good work

[rancid juniper]

i guess but most of the games i enjoyed were through discounts alone

[frigid stag]

Tbh I’d only buy from one of those if the game was delisted

Other than that I’d just wait for sale

[rancid juniper]

i think if you really don't want to feel that ick but get a discount on games is probably green man gaming

[lone mango]

Its $5

[rancid juniper]

5?

[lone mango]

Difference yeah

[rancid juniper]

are you talking about assetto corsa or AC EVO?

oh

[lone mango]

I thought it was $34 but its 31.99

[rancid juniper]

a discount is a discount

[lone mango]

I would say to do it on steam but its your call

[rancid juniper]

ill just wait until its under $20

[fresh timber]

Peak

[lone mango]

Brainrot will continue

[rancid juniper]

so true 💀

[nocturne flicker]

Haha, TikTok ban funni because TikTok bad, just ignore that the government can declare a website to be a foreign puppet and ban it until sold

[rancid juniper]

America: Ah foreign spyware bad!!!
Also America:

🗿

[velvet summit]

foreign spyware bad
local spyware good

[rancid juniper]

let's be real, google knows about you and your mum way more than any other data craving company

[velvet summit]

[nocturne flicker]

Why should I care if a Chinese owned company collects my data if they can just buy it from an American company anyways

[rancid juniper]

kick buying chinese spyware to get extra money ✅

[pliant berry]

do many people still use kick?

[rancid juniper]

doubt it

[pliant berry]

besides gamblers

[nocturne flicker]

I don't kick much nowadays, I avoid hitting things

[rancid juniper]

lol

[pliant berry]

fair enough

[dusk knot]

Hm

[frigid stag]

[dusk knot]

Kik?

[frigid stag]

Imagine using google logged in

[dusk knot]

Me

[rancid juniper]

yea we're cooked

[frigid stag]

I haven’t since they started forcing that ai bs

[dusk knot]

Let them take everything

Idc

[frigid stag]

I don’t want to see ai overview when I search something

[dusk knot]

Why not

It can be helpful

[frigid stag]

It’s like chat gpt but worse

[dusk knot]

Oh right this ...💀

Reddit lol

[fresh timber]

i want a b570

replace the rx6600

[idle nexus]

so Switch 2 is basically running a 1660ti with lower clocks...?

GTX1660ti has 1536 CUDA Cores. Switch has 1534

Switch 2 GPU clock is lower ig

[sweet phoenix]

Better than I expected

[rancid juniper]

price better be good

[sweet phoenix]

LMAO

It's Nintendo

[idle nexus]

GTX1660ti runs 1.5ghz & boosts to 1.7ghz. Switch 2 hits 1.1ghz

[rancid juniper]

hopefully around $400

[rancid juniper]

ik lol

[idle nexus]

but ehh

[rancid juniper]

overclocking mods

🤔

i wonder if someone will attempt to jailbreak the switch 2 day one

[idle nexus]

GTX1660ti has 288GB/s memory bandwidth. Switch 2 only 102.4

[rancid juniper]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[rancid juniper]

still a big leap over its weak ah predecessor

[idle nexus]

it says 12gb LPDDR5. Would that be shared with GPU & CPU?

[rancid juniper]

XSX had a refresh?

[idle nexus]

hmm

[rancid juniper]

went from 7nm > 6nm

should've been 5 atleast

[idle nexus]

it looks more like it's using GTX1660ti max-q which is for mobile

makes more sense since the max-q version runs 1.14ghz

what's definitely different tho is that the Switch has 2 RTX cores

lol 1660ti max-q with ray tracing

you know this thing is gonna be upscaling for sure

render resolution: 800x600 lol

(guessing that's not said anywhere afik)

[fresh timber]

wait.. switch 2 wont be slow??

???

did nintendo finally make a good console???

[idle nexus]

buuuttt gtx1660ti max-q memory bandwidth is 281gb/s v. Switch 2 102.4 (docked)

[fresh timber]

ehh still better than before

[idle nexus]

ehhh tba

the bar wasn't very high

[fresh timber]

mf could barley run its own games

[idle nexus]

TURN-BASED Pokemon Sword was like barely running 30fps when I played lol

[fresh timber]

🤮

poo

im pc masterrace, i take no less than 60

[craggy shoal]

PCMR ahh

[idle nexus]

lol I've already been warned for comments regarding their choice of name so I won't go there

[sweet phoenix]

Oh so it isnt just me

[idle nexus]

lol uh

I imagine there were times since but

[sweet phoenix]

Any time the words "master race" have been used throughout history it hasn't been good

[idle nexus]

last time I'm aware of that the name was used, it wasn't associated with positive things

[idle nexus]

well said lol

[rancid juniper]

LMFAO WTF

this guy crashing out for nothing

[idle nexus]

lol definitely a proportional response

[sweet phoenix]

Where's Luigi when you need him

I mean what

[pliant berry]

why be upset about it, didn't nothing really change?

[idle nexus]

who cares if info leaked? how will that impact sales?

[sweet phoenix]

Literally EVERYTHING gets leaked regarding tech

[idle nexus]

or anything for that matter

[sweet phoenix]

Phones, pc parts, consoles, TVs, monitors

[rancid juniper]

i mean be mad at nintendo here for not presenting their product earlier, not the people eager to speculate

[idle nexus]

lol how ridiculous

[sweet phoenix]

Nintendo needs to realize they're not exclusive like they were 20 years ago

[rancid juniper]

that guy definity is a corporate bootlicker

[sweet phoenix]

They don't have the near monopoly they used to have, nor the popularity

[pliant berry]

ye we got other handhelds that can emulate all of their games

i mean whaaat

[sweet phoenix]

I'm about to build a whole pc to emulate their games because their consoles are just ridiculous

Why would I buy a wii when a 3400g outperforms it

By miles

Hell a 3400g beats the switch

[pliant berry]

what doesn't beat the switch now

[sweet phoenix]

Responsible switch owners

[pliant berry]

lol

[fresh timber]

wdym my pc can out perform a switch>??

wdym i can run the game at 4k 60 and still get better fps

[rancid juniper]

bro thought the leaks killed the hype of the console or something when it did the exact opposite

like i won't lie, they have gotten annoying and felt relieved when nintendo FINALLY confirms that its real

for sure

[frigid stag]

If he wants to not spoil it then just don’t look at them. The titles don’t say much anyway

[rancid juniper]

yea its nothing groundbreaking

[frigid stag]

It’s usually click baity and you have to read the whole thing to see

People on Twitter also get mad when u use emulators so

[frigid stag]

That’s a loaf or whatever you call it

[rancid juniper]

LeChonkus Catto

[frigid stag]

Lol

[long pier]

Can somebody hop In build chat and help a brotha out

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/m9uK4D35FlM

Intel is saving the low end

[fresh timber]

I’m hungry

Feed me

[dusk knot]

Hmm

[sweet phoenix]

$220 on wegg rn

in stock

[hoary zodiac]

There really should be commercial solutions for usb c - dc adapter cables

[hoary zodiac]

WAIT REALLY?

[sweet phoenix]

ye

[hoary zodiac]

Return of the 1660ti tier card

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.newegg.com/asrock-challenger-b570-cl-12go-intel-arc-b570-10gb-gddr6/p/N82E16814930134?Item=N82E16814930134

It's actually decent

Less than 15% worse than the b580

[hoary zodiac]

Now we just need a sub-$200 card

[sweet phoenix]

and it still has 10gb which is nice

[hoary zodiac]

This is great news for someone who grew up on the low end

[sweet phoenix]

8gb wouldnt be bad on that tier of card tho

id trade 2gb of vram for some more perf

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah for sub-$200 it's fine honestly

[sweet phoenix]

i mean on the 570 too

[hoary zodiac]

It's kinda in the "better value to go used/upgrade in a couple years" category

[sweet phoenix]

wouldve been cool if they launched a b580 with half the vram (its 16gb right?) for like $50 cheaper

[hoary zodiac]

I'm honestly excited to see if intel's going to launch a sub-$200 card

That'd do wonders for budget gaming

[sweet phoenix]

i expect it

I'm hoping for a card or two below the b570, and a card above the b580

im really hoping for 3070-3080ish performance from intel soon

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah then they'll be competing on the mid range as well

Which in term will make radeon more competitive

Which in turn will make nvidia more competitive

Consumer victory

[hoary zodiac]

Apparently the B580 overhead issue is more apparent on low gpu loads rather than low end

[dusk knot]

Intel

😴

[fresh timber]

how do these mfs get interviews but i cant

[fresh timber]

i want a 7700xt killer

[fresh timber]

low gpu loads because cpu cant keep up or just low in general

[hoary zodiac]

oooo

new testing methodology

[ancient swift]

Kinda crazy since it's RDNA 2

[fresh timber]

legion go s should have a cheaper apu too

[ancient swift]

I wanna see the lower wattage

[fresh timber]

z2 go keeping up with a z1 extreme is good, the cpu is a 4c tho

[ancient swift]

Yeah, personally I don't understand the price though.

[fresh timber]

whats the z2 go price

[ancient swift]

729.99 for the Windows version with 32gb ddr5.

But the steamos version starts at 499$

[fresh timber]

what specs does steamos verson have

[ancient swift]

Only with 16gb ddr5 though

[fresh timber]

sam cpu?

[ancient swift]

Ye

[fresh timber]

idea, get 16gb one and install windows ur self

[ancient swift]

Besides storage and ram it's the same

[fresh timber]

the ram is a benfit

technicly the apu can have more vram than a 4090

z2 go really is a steamdeck compeititor

dont get the windows one

get a z1 extreme legion go and benfit from a 8 core cpu 🙂

[ancient swift]

512gb ssd, 16gb Ram, 120hz 1200p IPS screen. 55whr battery. For 499.

Not terrible if your streaming but the steam deck still has OLED as a reason to pick it.

[fresh timber]

im bias so im going legion

im a d1 steamdeck hater

[ancient swift]

I have the legion go and a steam deck OLED. I love both. Hardcore steam deck fans are crazy though.

[fresh timber]

yeah i hate it

its a cult

i mainly returned legion go for lack of power couldnt really psh good framerates in the one game i wanted even at 720p

[pliant berry]

STEAM DECK ALL THE WAYYY

[ancient swift]

PC gamers, hardcore valve fanboys and Linux nerds joined together to form a steam deck cult

[fresh timber]

soo i ended up going o nmy pc to play

[fresh timber]

me who knows how to install linux on any handheld :))

[ancient swift]

Steam deck 2 might be what you're waiting for. Potentially.

[velvet summit]

sell sell sell

[ancient swift]

But it's gonna be pricey 😭

[velvet summit]

the man has spoken

[fresh timber]

if it gives me morefps than a z1 extreme

i loved the cpu part of the z1 extreme, a very good 8 cores chip

very snappy

i had a hard time telling between the z1e and my 13600kf

[ancient swift]

Z2 extreme will have the 890m which is a decent amount better than the 780m in the Z1 extreme.

[fresh timber]

do we know how uch

[ancient swift]

Also VRR on a 1600p OLED display has me drooling

No

[fresh timber]

the 1600p dispay was already too mcuh for the legion go

[ancient swift]

Honestly with the legion go s at 729$ I'd expect closer to 899

[fresh timber]

unless it has battery life advantage id go z1 extreme legion go

[ancient swift]

Use integer scaling up from 800p. It looks great

[fresh timber]

id rather have the 4 more cores

[fresh timber]

on bazzite it was nice, but for the windows games 🤮

tried framegen with lossless scaling, it was just ew

[ancient swift]

Ew framegen

Integer scaling with AMD adrenaline is much smoother for me. No frame gen.

[worn wave]

Well yeah cause it's 1/4 the rendered pixels lol

[hoary zodiac]

Overhead on full demonstration

Especially for the 5600x

[fresh timber]

ima prob try gaming on a mac

mac book pro gaming? peak

[lone mango]

Wow even at 1440p

I get that baldurs gate is really heavy but still

[fresh timber]

bro

my friend just needs a gpu that doesnt suck intel fumbled for the lower end gang

[hoary zodiac]

tl;dr the overhead issue depends on the game and the card

[lone mango]

Used rx 7600 is basically the same price

[hoary zodiac]

It's actually not that bad

It really just depends on how the card it utilised

It is an issue but depending on use case it can be either around 7600 performance or near 7700 XT

[fresh timber]

oi

if u get close to my gpu ima crash out

[hoary zodiac]

It's not that black and white

It depends on the game and cpu

[fresh timber]

thats it

5080 it is

[fresh timber]

i need to see fortnite perforance

[hoary zodiac]

exactly

It depends on the game

Starfield absolutely hammers battlemage

[fresh timber]

irrelivant game anyways

[hoary zodiac]

Cyberpunk very much favours battlemage

hmm

...unless you're on 1080p

[viral heron]

any tips on how to flatten my mousepad

its been like 3 weeks ive had books on it overnight and its still curled on the side

[worthy meteor]

Best if you can get some heat on it

[hoary zodiac]

same story here

Might be a nice budget 1440p card

RT performance seems decent on average

damn some of these figures are really good

Looks like despite the driver overhead issues battlemage is still VERY competitive

[fresh timber]

so what i hear is if u have 1080p monitor u should get 1440p display with ur gpu

[hoary zodiac]

That is not what I said

[fresh timber]

not what u said, its what i siad

1080p suffers

[hoary zodiac]

Watch the video

And make your own conclusion

[proud jackal]

Is 5090 out yet

[hoary zodiac]

Yes

Do you want a link to the benchmarks?

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

[fresh timber]

i watched it early lol

[fresh timber]

jokes on you i have autoplay disabled

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXGTu0EQMoA

[pseudo patrol]

can’t wait to see the 50 series stats when it drops

[pseudo patrol]

I might cop the aorus 5070 ti master

2 more weeks until 50 series release

[velvet summit]

Real ones recognize the link

When you get rickrolled so much that you recognize the link

[fresh timber]

l

[velvet summit]

That was like 10 years ago at this point

[hoary zodiac]

I know it by heart

[velvet summit]

Back when rickrolling was alot more common

Nowadays you don't have as many rickroll landmines

[hoary zodiac]

dQw4w9WgXcQ

[velvet summit]

Unironically rickrolls helped me be more vigilant against malware

Because I always check the link before clicking

Of course, this doesn't protect me from videos and images sent

https://tenor.com/view/things-that-you-shouldnt-stare-at-for-too-long-the-sun-winnie-the-pooh-rickroll-rick-astley-gif-16585085

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/sYXh0AdBw-I

Ryzen mobile strikes again

[velvet summit]

Or rather

"Linus discovers his setup is wildly overkill"

[hoary zodiac]

More like

Not cost effective at all

You can be overkill without breaking the bank

[velvet summit]

wildly overkill

[fresh timber]

If I was rich I’d prob have a overkill server cause it’s my version of sports car

[velvet summit]

I would probably get into cars a bit more if I was rich

[fresh timber]

I’d have cars and fun servers lollll

[velvet summit]

I would setup a homelab first of course

I think I'll have one car
Well, 2

One project car, one for driving

[fresh timber]

You spend more time with lab than car

Unless your never home

[velvet summit]

I just like to tinker

[hoary zodiac]

Get a Porsche Tiger

[velvet summit]

When I get tired or run out of things to do with the homelab, I'd tinker with a project car

[velvet summit]

Honestly
I'm not a car guy in the sense that I like supercars and such

I want to buy a beat down car and attempt to restormod it

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

[fresh timber]

Ima get fast asf fiber to my house, fastest I can get aka 8gbps prob, overkill router for no reason, but to have 32 cores in my router, 100gig networking between my main pc, nas, and my few servers in a cluster, 10 gig networking to access points random things, then gigabit for litterlry anything els

[hoary zodiac]

The Porsche Tiger is vintage

[velvet summit]

Oh

[velvet summit]

You could also get a dedicated line run since you would be "rich"

[fresh timber]

Yes officer I need 1GBps
Download speed from my ssd nas

[hoary zodiac]

not the most reliable

[velvet summit]

Have a business class connection

[safe cape]

did you like it ?

[fresh timber]

If I’m that rich yes

[hoary zodiac]

But more to tinker with

[hoary zodiac]

What aspects of it?

The form factor? Yes?

[fresh timber]

If in Elon rich I’m having 100 gig ran to my home

[velvet summit]

I wouldn't tbh

[fresh timber]

Why? Why not

[velvet summit]

I wouldn't be dumb rich, I'll get overkill but at least to the point that it makes sense

[safe cape]

and speeds ? it can do everything for a server ?

[pliant berry]

doesn't linus have like a 10gig direct line?

[velvet summit]

10g is far more than enough for running a few servers

[fresh timber]

To his office yes

[hoary zodiac]

They're using it as a portable workstation/server

[safe cape]

yeah

for editing okey

[fresh timber]

Duh but that isn’t screaming im super rich and have money to waste cause im Elon musk

[hoary zodiac]

It's a way more practical setup than what he had before

• get a beryl ax/openwrt one

And a network switch

[pliant berry]

I wonder if they ever get even near saturation

[hoary zodiac]

Boom

Portable server

[fresh timber]

If I’m being practical rich I’m going 10 gig everything

[safe cape]

we need more smaller

[hoary zodiac]

Very practical

[velvet summit]

If I were Elon Musk rich I wouldn't be doing Elon Musk things (probably)

[hoary zodiac]

You can fit an entire homelab in your backpack

[fresh timber]

Lmfao

[fresh timber]

I can fit one server barley in my bag

lol

[velvet summit]

I want to be stupid rich, but not stupid

Ykyk

[fresh timber]

I realistically want two separate 10
Gig lines to my house

10 gig ubuquti gear and I’m happy

[long pier]

Chat I think my pc is tripping

[velvet summit]

Yeah, redundancy is important for a homelab

Er

Production environments

[fresh timber]

And you can load balance on them, so in theory you could do 20gbps across multiply clients

[long pier]

Why does my pc identify my keyboard as a mouse ?

[velvet summit]

Homelabs don't matter quite as much in terms of reliability for most people

[fresh timber]

It’s as reliable as you need it

Glory of homelab

[velvet summit]

Or as you can afford

Well, this goes for business applications as well

[hoary zodiac]

That's the whole point of a homelab really

[fresh timber]

Persoanly I’d get a big ass ups system that shuts everything non critical down at a certain point

[hoary zodiac]

It's a home lab

[velvet summit]

The penny pinchers will determine how much risk and money they want to take and spend

[fresh timber]

Ima tell you this now, 80% of homelabbers don’t need all that

[hoary zodiac]

Yes that's what I said

[fresh timber]

They are running and doing things for the fun

[velvet summit]

Less for fun and more for learning for most people

[fresh timber]

I don’t need pi hole, I want it, I don’t need an access point in my room, I want it

[hoary zodiac]

Ok to be fair pi hole is legitimate useful

[fresh timber]

Next want is 10 gig networking and 20tb of hdds

[velvet summit]

I have a few friends that are sysadmins basically that run a homelab to test software before deciding on deploying it on company stuff or such

[fresh timber]

Not really, I have ad block extension kek

I can live with out

Isjust convient for when I don’t have Adblock installed like my phone

[hoary zodiac]

I'm speaking generally

[pliant berry]

pihole is nice for whole home devices, if you only ever use 1 or 2 devices than sure

also besides blocking pihole is often used as a local dns server

[fresh timber]

My poopy isp router won’t let me change dns so it’s only devices I set to use it, or anything in my tailnet lmfao

[velvet summit]

Actually, don't you have proxmox setup

Oh

Router issue I see

[pliant berry]

really?

[fresh timber]

Router problem

[pliant berry]

I feel like it's really rare to find a router that doesn't let you change dns

[hoary zodiac]

I use adguard home because it comes with my router

Great solution

[velvet summit]

Some ISP routers are like that, though some have it but really hidden in like the advanced advanced settings

[hoary zodiac]

Great router

[fresh timber]

It’s also a reliability problem

[pliant berry]

my router has ad blocking but I think that also screws with google

[fresh timber]

If I turn my server off or it has problems my entire house looses internet essentially

[velvet summit]

Secondary dns

[fresh timber]

I can’t access any store page Google advertises, I fixed the YouTube problem tho

[pliant berry]

anytime I've tried those kinds of solutions or anything that changes network config google stops working lol

[hoary zodiac]

💀

[fresh timber]

Ima make a 2nd Pihole before I replace the router lmfaoooo

[hoary zodiac]

Is it google.com

Or google services

Youtube still works for me

[fresh timber]

Google services is blocked

[pliant berry]

anything google related

[hoary zodiac]

oh interesting

[fresh timber]

I had to whitelist a domain for YouTube and it worked again

[velvet summit]

You can set primary DNS to pihole, secondary to like adguard home dns

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if it's worth running a docker container for pi hole

Just to have another dns sink

[velvet summit]

Yes

[pliant berry]

I never really looked into it much. interestingly enough it even stops working when I enable split tunnel vpn. I thought it was the vpn app bugging but then realized it was only google that stopped working

[hoary zodiac]

alright

[velvet summit]

Pihole filters can be more extensive than adguard

[fresh timber]

Lowkey should put that on a n100 machine ngl

[pliant berry]

ye i mean if you have one always on server already than why not

[hoary zodiac]

I have a lil setup

[fresh timber]

I can have a n100 machine that sits in living room and never does anything but serve dns

[hoary zodiac]

Really compact

[pliant berry]

cute router

[hoary zodiac]

I could add another couple mini pcs and it'll still be miniature

[fresh timber]

I love his router

[hoary zodiac]

Very powerful router too

[pliant berry]

the new version of that router looks really interesting

[hoary zodiac]

It's the same size as my switch too

Although I might have to upgrade it in the future

[velvet summit]

which one?

[pliant berry]

the wifi 7 one

[hoary zodiac]

Might get a managed desktop switch to play around with

[pliant berry]

I don't think there is much info online about it yet but they had it at ces

[velvet summit]

I don't see a wifi 7 one on their site

Oh

Unreleased

Makes sense then lmao

[pliant berry]

yeah lol

[fresh timber]

WiFi 7 lowkey useless

[pliant berry]

well its not sosmething I would upgrade to just because

[velvet summit]

i wouldn't say useless

lots of useful features... maybe not at home

but for enterprise for hundreds of clients

[craggy shoal]

"It's useless. Impossible to use" -Most people who want to "switch to Linux for good" because "Windows is an evil corporation"

[velvet summit]

damn gotta hate the windows corporation

[fresh timber]

im back

[fresh timber]

im still going to buy it

if i get this mac i want to have full speed wireless brr

[dusk knot]

Hhhhhmmmmmmmm

[fresh timber]

apple does not list their wifi verson here, loll

found it, damn no 7 tho

good enough kek

[proud jackal]

[dusk knot]

☕ 😮

[fresh timber]

whats the difrence between wireless web and video streaming

[pliant berry]

general web browsing probably

[spark halo]

16 hour hotspot wireless web without needing wifi

[fresh timber]

how can u browse the web with out...

[pliant berry]

they put different estimates since it is fairly easy to optimize power usage for video where you don't interact with the machine much

[spark halo]

24 hours video streaming meaning possible caps after?

[fresh timber]

both seem super good

charge mf at night call it a day

[spark halo]

https://tenor.com/view/emilgj-rarepepe-quantum-pepe-ultra-rare-pepe-shiny-pepe-gif-13730698

[fresh timber]

what appeals to me about mac is u can run a real load on them and the battery doesnt combusts

[spark halo]

I mean macs if you run into any issue for hardware…

You cant fix it yourself

[fresh timber]

rma

[spark halo]

Even with rma if your not warrantied with apple you basically screw yourself

[pliant berry]

depends on the kind of damage but ye

[nocturne flicker]

It is done, I can into mones

Sold all the mutual funds. I shall be debt free within a week

Man who knew confidently being able to say I don't have to worry about not being able to buy food would improve your mood 🙃

[long pier]

Bro

I updated every driver

Downloaded *

And it still won’t connect to my home WiFi but it would connect to my hotspot

[fresh timber]

that can happen with a lot of devices that arnt apple

idk why its in a weird currecny

[spark halo]

But outside of apple usually you have right to repair

[fresh timber]

cool

[spark halo]

Which apple is heavily against

[fresh timber]

their opening up a bit

persoanlly i wouldnt want to open my mac up and try working on it my self

rather go to a shop to do it so if something breaks it aint my fault

[worn wave]

Ever since they realized 'repairs = environment friendly' advertising they've been leaning into repairability more

It still ain't great but a lot better than it used to be

[fresh timber]

only thing i dont like is the soddered ssd but o well

prob will outlive the use of the laptop anyways

[dusk knot]

Hm.

[tranquil pebble]

they also hate poor people

[dusk knot]

Imagine

If they hate poor people so much, help them not be poor

[nocturne flicker]

How dare you! A company?!? Help poor people?!?!?! That's the kind of talk that gets you in jail bucko

[fresh timber]

da:kek

chat

yall think the price jump is justified 512gb o 1tb

oo i wonder if they do student discounts

[pliant berry]

they do but its not much

[fresh timber]

a discount is a discount

[nocturne flicker]

$200 for doubled storage? Ew

What, is it soldered on?

[fresh timber]

yes

lol

[nocturne flicker]

Omega Ew

[fresh timber]

so ur locked in

i as either going to go external drive or dump everything to nas when i dont need it on it anymore, great thing i have till college to buy one and see how prices are then

[nocturne flicker]

Rather buy a M.2 enclosure. $200 for that is literally theft

[fresh timber]

yuh

2tb mp44l or something and call it a day

i think n.2 encolsures are fat enough to edit off of and such

and then the one that im telling my self ew bad dont get

[storm narwhal]

2 grand

[fresh timber]

yup

[storm narwhal]

Good god

[fresh timber]

thts just, ew u dont need the extra 8gb ram

[storm narwhal]

Its not even 32gb ram

Its 24

[fresh timber]

to be fair

on mac 16-24 is more than enough prob

[storm narwhal]

32 wouldn't even cost them much more??

[fresh timber]

its unified

its built into the chip

[storm narwhal]

Oh yeah

[fresh timber]

it prob does cost them a bit

[storm narwhal]

Other ram is still soldered

[nocturne flicker]

What is stopping them from having on chip and off chip ram

[fresh timber]

speed

its ALOT faster to be in the chip

[storm narwhal]

Distance does matter

[nocturne flicker]

So? Have on chip and back up off chip for more intense applications

[fresh timber]

its not just normal "ram

[storm narwhal]

But also chips released this gen might beat them

[fresh timber]

i mean they could prob do that but why would they

[storm narwhal]

Actually a good idea

But yeah tbf its not like most of their users would care

[fresh timber]

i do like the idea, sense apple makes the os and hardware it wont be difficult to implement into mac os

their major advantage compared to windows devices

[storm narwhal]

That is honestly their stability in adobe

And other apps

[nocturne flicker]

Literally just what a dgpu does if it doesn't have enough VRAM, it can dip into slower system RAM so applications aren't as bottlenecked by the VRAM amounts

[fresh timber]

yuh

handhelds do similar ish

autovram on handhelds give the cpu all the ram, dedicated like 512mb to the gpu and windows reconises the rest as shared memory

similar consept to what where discussing

[storm narwhal]

Wish apple would be good to their consumers

Not overcharge then for simple upgrades

[fresh timber]

ral

real

too bad its one of the best laptops for wht it is 😭

[storm narwhal]

Its pretty nice

[fresh timber]

funna cop the cheapest mac pro as my self graduation gift and college laptop

[nocturne flicker]

I am graduating from myself

[fresh timber]

lmfao

[storm narwhal]

I might consider the base mc mini for that

mac mini

[fresh timber]

im saving my money up

i might be able to afford it in a few months

[storm narwhal]

Nice

[nocturne flicker]

Make sure to keep saving it even after the purchase. Bills are pain

[storm narwhal]

Invest too

Stonks or something

[nocturne flicker]

Index funds

[fresh timber]

alr do that lel

[nocturne flicker]

Bogle portfolio go brrrr

[storm narwhal]

Noice

[fresh timber]

i can prob save up a few thousand

wallet will prob be able to afford the $2000 mac if i wanted but its not needed

[storm narwhal]

Nah it'd probably just be the everyday laptop

[nocturne flicker]

Keep in mind the taxes that come with investments and certain actions involving them tho

[storm narwhal]

Not worth 2000 for a word processing/browsing laptop

At least that'd how I'd use one

[nocturne flicker]

Don't want to wake up one morning to a letter from the IRS saying you forgot to declare your dividends on your tax return

[storm narwhal]

IRS really be like

"We know how much money you make but you tell us how much money you make"

But don't make a mistake or you're going to jail

[fresh timber]

real

if my life goes how i plan, it goin be for video editing, then everything you said

[storm narwhal]

Also valid

[fresh timber]

doing digtial media in college hopefully

[nocturne flicker]

It is more like we have a general idea of how much you make but if we feel like something is off in what you confirm for us we'll spend a little money to make you regret it

[fresh timber]

learning how to make and edit tikatks

sounsd dope

[storm narwhal]

Maybe have an external drive

[fresh timber]

plan,

goin have it sync my files to my nas too

funna abuse college internet so my pc, laptop, and nas always has a copy of the files, and ill take backups too hopefully

exggerating the abuse part

when no longer needed on laptop slide on nas where it can be retrived when ever needed

[storm narwhal]

Yeah that's good

[fresh timber]

got a feeling 90% of the files re going to be large video files, and 10% essays and what ever

ima record highres high bitrate for the meer fact tht i can

[storm narwhal]

High bitrate tiktok

[fresh timber]

gotta standout in class somehow

high quality ad bitrate tiktak video peak

hold on professor, my projects going to take a while to upload its 200GB

[north crescent]

If you're trying to do file syncing kinda like Onedrive, Syncthing is decent at that

[fresh timber]

yeah thats what i use

pc to other computer

[icy ore]

[fresh timber]

i change dmy mind

[craggy shoal]

change dmy

[fresh timber]

ill have a directory that backups the sythings folder every 24 hours or so, then a sythning folder that syncs laptop and pc to nas

ezzzzz

wonder of sythings, your editing off ur native storage, downside, your using ur storage

[storm narwhal]

Good thing you can get a 4tb nvme-

[fresh timber]

lol

[craggy shoal]

sythning

[fresh timber]

if i ever get strapped for storage ill just stop syncing

[craggy shoal]

I want a couple of 22TB tbh and I don't even think that's enough lol

[fresh timber]

i wanna buy two 24tb storage servers

[craggy shoal]

(actually that's a joke. I think at least 14TB per drive is enough, for a two-bay DAS that I would put in RAID 1)

[fresh timber]

one my NAS, mainly running synthings and doing my other nas things like random fles i upload to it

im only going to sync videos and photos

then another nas that take a compete backup of the first every 24h

[craggy shoal]

hmmmmm
https://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-3-5-Inch-Internal-WD2002FFSX/dp/B08K3TFM92

[storm narwhal]

Dayum

[craggy shoal]

need

(Seagate IronWolf also exists)

[fresh timber]

im buying used drives

[fresh timber]

ew

dont

[craggy shoal]

why not?

Isn't that their server-grade series?

[fresh timber]

get recert drives

[fresh timber]

not recommended in r/homelab unless exos is what im gathering

all segate go kaboom

besies exos

i wanna get like4 of these

[craggy shoal]

yeah idk about used storage

[worn wave]

Esp hard drives

[craggy shoal]

maybe if it's server parts deals but not from eBay

[fresh timber]

depends on which one

[worn wave]

Used SSD probably fine, but hdds have so much less life in them

[fresh timber]

buy used enterprise, i just picked the first one i saw

the homelabbers buy these

their recertified hdds *dont buy right now, they normally go for $80

[craggy shoal]

hmmmmm
https://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Ultrastar-HC550-Drive/dp/B08H1T666Y

[worn wave]

Recertified hdd = we used these nearly to their reliable limit

[fresh timber]

u clearly dont know anythign then, ok

[craggy shoal]

idk I'd only use Server Parts Deals if I went used

[fresh timber]

their a wonderful way to get cheap reliable storage

[fresh timber]

their on ebay too

[craggy shoal]

oh bruh

well then 💀

[fresh timber]

yeah.

im waiting for their prices to drop before i cop

prob low stock right now

[craggy shoal]

this gift card is carrying the bill rn

[fresh timber]

their selling hdds with problems

some people like them

if ur making a erver with hella hdds its prob fine, keep cold spare

[craggy shoal]

👀

[fresh timber]

16tb hhdd

[craggy shoal]

(yeah 16TB. should be enough until I get a proper NAS)

yeah

[fresh timber]

real

[craggy shoal]

two of them, putting them in RAID 1

[fresh timber]

im putting all the storage i can in my pc until i build a nas for college

i refuse to use the 1tb onedrive

[craggy shoal]

Oh just wait lmao. imma be storage maxxing in the coming months

[fresh timber]

lmfaoo

[craggy shoal]

💀

[fresh timber]

i need a offsite backup

[craggy shoal]

same

[fresh timber]

i only have 20mbps upload tho

i wonder if i can compess, upload, decompress

[icy ore]

[fresh timber]

wanna put a nas and ups in my dads house but they have 50mbps download and 10mbps upload

quicker to turn a nas off, bring it to dads house, copy data from nas a to nas b, go home, than it is to upload over the net

[craggy shoal]

Man I remember when 20 Mbps was a massive upgrade for us

[fresh timber]

same

idk if offsite is fesiable for me rn

if i had 50 upload i would

upladoing like 1tb would take lets see

...

yeahhhhhh im not going to bother with offsite

[craggy shoal]

bruh

[fresh timber]

1tb/24tb would take me 111 hours

if i filled it up

now to see how long it take me to download 24tb

only 95hours

if it was a backup id have to do it ike monthly and warn everyone tht for the next 2000 hours the internet will feel like poop

[craggy turret]

14 days left until 5090

[fresh timber]

i wonder who runs the NEW egg discord account

new egg ceo is new egg??

[opaque sedge]

Well damn asus not bad not bad not bad at all

[craggy turret]

Yes def

[fresh timber]

i wonder what "comapny" discords do besides do annoucments and such

[nocturne flicker]

They shunt customer support to the random users

For game companies they even use the Discords for bug finding and fixing

[cursive oasis]

What would a good GPU for an AMD ryzen 2400g be?

[craggy shoal]

5090

[hoary zodiac]

Budget?

[cursive oasis]

Bruhhh

[craggy shoal]

Bruh* not uhhh tf. you're the Ambassador of Bruh

better

6600 XT

[cursive oasis]

I just need a good Mini ITX motherboard that can take a GPU, and is compatible with AMD cpus (preferably for the 2400g)

[craggy shoal]

6600 XT

[hoary zodiac]

what is... the budget

[cursive oasis]

$150

[hoary zodiac]

Used 1080ti

[cursive oasis]

If it goes a little over that's fine

[hoary zodiac]

Or 5700XT

[fresh timber]

Does 2400g beat 2300x

[craggy shoal]

more threads so probably but not by much

just get a 5600G

[fresh timber]

Cause if their the same I’m cpu limited with a rx6600 lmfao

[hoary zodiac]

@cursive oasis #building-and-recc-chat if you need more help

[craggy turret]

Lowest price 5090 not from nvidia is the PNY 5090 for a chill $3,100+ (21% vat)

[fresh timber]

2300x manages to hit 100% before the 6600 can even hit it on gpu games

Lolllll

Just Remote Desktop can stress it lolll

[craggy shoal]

Upgrade that CPU wtf

2300X can't even support RDP? 😭

[fresh timber]

A Minecraft server stresses it lmfao

[craggy shoal]

bruh

[fresh timber]

Doing all at once.. o no

[craggy shoal]

Running Proxmox on four cores is wild to me

[fresh timber]

Yes

I do indeed run proxmox with 4 cores and I do make it work

[craggy shoal]

It doesn't even feel right on a 12650H (what I'm using

[fresh timber]

Do you have e cores

E cores and proxmox isn’t very good

But it’s faster than my 2300x

[craggy shoal]

like 4 e cores

[fresh timber]

Ima use my 13600kf in a server when I get upgrades lol.may disable ecores, may not

[craggy shoal]

I want a new Proxmox machine already (I just got this thing for Christmas lol)

[fresh timber]

lol

What I want is is a 5950x server but that ain’t happening

https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/performance-cores-vs-efficient-cores.141900/

Nhhh

What I’m gathering is

It’s smart and figured it out for you, but if you have problems just pin cores to the vm

[craggy shoal]

I just want that MS-A2 that releases later this year

idk if I'll be patient enough lol

basically my endgame server (for a couple years)

@pseudo patrol you're typing. If you're asking for help, go to #building-and-recc-chat