general-chat

[dusk knot]

Everything leads to the SEQUELS

[hoary zodiac]

Eh

[ancient swift]

Its been completely disconnected from all of starwars

[hoary zodiac]

Meanwhile with Star Trek

[ancient swift]

Maybe one character from Mando, but not really.

[dusk knot]

Even more far gone imo

[hoary zodiac]

Lower Decks, the PARODY show is better from Discovery

The PARODY

[dusk knot]

We don't talk about discovery

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair Discovery is weighed down by one single character

It would've been OK otherwise

[ancient swift]

Not a single cameo that's like bragged about in sight. Filloni is learninnggggg

[hoary zodiac]

Or at least not as bad as it is

[dusk knot]

Turning ST into a comedy isn't my thing.

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah it can be farce

But it's more subtle with its reference than Discovery and Picard

At least past season 1

[dusk knot]

Hmm

[hoary zodiac]

Picard is

Ehhh

I don't get the praise with season 3

[dusk knot]

Only season 3 was good

[hoary zodiac]

It's still hot garbage for me

Maybe because they completely wasted my time with season 1-2

Even without that it's just bad to me

Not hot garbage

Just bad

[dusk knot]

It felt more in line with 90s trek, but it still falls short

[hoary zodiac]

That's what lower decks does for me

[dusk knot]

The Orville is the only real trek since Enterprise

[hoary zodiac]

Season 2 onwards is closer to TNG than any official show

[dusk knot]

Idk.....

[misty sparrow]

Honestly tbh DDR4 is DDR4 so it shouldn’t matter too much. Timing is pretty much the same on both

[hoary zodiac]

This applies both to LD and Orville tbh

Orville Season 1 is ok but it's got that family guy humour

2-3 is amazing

Never judge a show by it's first season

[dusk knot]

Really really good stuff

[hoary zodiac]

I like it more than TNG tbh

[dusk knot]

It did. It was gold

[hoary zodiac]

Especially how they handle the prime directive

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/WlND7pFg2pk?si=K7svKB7aQESyA46_

[hoary zodiac]

It's better than how ST handles it

[rancid juniper]

Funniest video from gamersnexus

[hoary zodiac]

I'm desperately hoping for a season 4

[dusk knot]

I don't fully remember if that's true

[random osprey]

hawk fan? like, two of them?

my b

[rancid juniper]

👀

[hoary zodiac]

I guess it's kinda more in that

[dusk knot]

I won't mind walking the Orville again

[hoary zodiac]

TOS way of the prime directive

But with a less

[dusk knot]

hmm

[hoary zodiac]

"cowboy diplomacy" method

[dusk knot]

Oh right

[hoary zodiac]

Kirk just shows up with the Enterprise and tells people to stop fighting

And goes back in time

[dusk knot]

It was a clever blend of the originals and the 90s now that I think of it

[hoary zodiac]

Temporal cops hate him

[dusk knot]

They sure do....

[hoary zodiac]

Kirk was too based

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah it really is

[dusk knot]

All the captains

[hoary zodiac]

You get a lot of the action and excitement from TOS

And more realistic writing and characters

[dusk knot]

And suspense

[hoary zodiac]

It's like a blend between TOS-TNG-DS9 to me

Less DS9

Except the parts when they focus on characters

[dusk knot]

Ds9. My least favorite

[hoary zodiac]

You probably wouldn't like B5 then

[dusk knot]

Why I never bothered

[hoary zodiac]

B5 is very serialised

Like the later seasons of DS9

Which I've heard is what people don't like about the later seasons

[dusk knot]

Hmmm

[hoary zodiac]

B5 started with a 5 season story in mind

If you can get through season 1 it is well worth it

[dusk knot]

I do like stories

[hoary zodiac]

Season 1 starts off slow but if you can get through

It starts paying off in mid season 2

[dusk knot]

I just wasn't much of a fan of the space station

I did find the conflict between the Kardashians and the brajorans to be interesting

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah B5 is mostly set on...well Babylon 5

[dusk knot]

I would guess it wasn't as good as DS9 in your opinion?

[hoary zodiac]

DS9 is better as a drama set in the ST universe than as a ST show

[hoary zodiac]

Better

[dusk knot]

No way

🤔

Maybe I'll give it a watch

How many seasons?

[hoary zodiac]

5

And a bunch of movies

There's a watch order online

Somewhere

[dusk knot]

I'm rewatching older shows and movies now. Today's media sucks

[hoary zodiac]

Babylon 5 is well worth the watch

[dusk knot]

I want to watch anime ..but something I can't explain is stopping me

[hoary zodiac]

But you'll have to think of it as it's own show

Rather than DS9

Season 1 starts off slow

[pliant berry]

I can explain it for you

[hoary zodiac]

But by season 3 you'd be on the edge of your seat

[pliant berry]

[dusk knot]

What is it

[hoary zodiac]

You can't skip anything either or else it ruins the moments in later seasons

[dusk knot]

Ofc. They're two entirely separate universes

[dusk knot]

I never do. I watched every DS9 episode

At least once

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/yuki-smile-roshidere-yuki-suou-gif-1424677412291731173

[dusk knot]

Eventually my brain forgets when your watched Soo much

[hoary zodiac]

I skip the first 2 seasons on rewatches of ST

[dusk knot]

Because no waifu?

I agree

[hoary zodiac]

Except voyager

[dusk knot]

😔

[hoary zodiac]

Voyager is actually fine

I mean the quality is consistently mid so

The first season's just as mid as the rest

[dusk knot]

I LOVE Voyager. My favorite cast

[hoary zodiac]

The doctor is always the highlight for me

[dusk knot]

Out of all the series

[hoary zodiac]

Voyager has great characters

Could've been written better

Great premise

[dusk knot]

Him and Seven

[hoary zodiac]

Yeeee

Tuvok too

[dusk knot]

Those are my top three favorite

[hoary zodiac]

Janeway is a badass but can be inconsistent

[dusk knot]

Loved everyone...maybe not Kes all that much

[hoary zodiac]

Still even the bad seasons of voyager are way way more watchable than season 1-2 TNG

It just doesn't get as good as those two shows get at peak

Still a good show

[dusk knot]

1-2 was almost torture imo. Boring. Gene Roddenberry didn't know what he was doing.

I think.... seasons 3-4 is when it started to get good

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah TNG under him was so bad

I always skip those 2 seasons

Except measure of a man

That's a classic

[dusk knot]

I had to power through all of them to get the achievement of watching everything

I think it was worth it

[dusk knot]

Oh Right...data

Starfleet wanted to disassemble him.

Mmhhmm yes

[hoary zodiac]

That episode makes no sense in picard continuity btw

That episode alone contradicts the entire first season of picard

[dusk knot]

Recap for me why....

[hoary zodiac]

They based the first season on that episode too so

[hoary zodiac]

Android slavery

[dusk knot]

Hmmm....right

[hoary zodiac]

Retroactively makes that episode pointless

[dusk knot]

Didn't they outlaw that?

I forgot

[hoary zodiac]

The data trial should've made it illegal for androids to be enslaved

Like most of picard season 1 should not have happened

[dusk knot]

I hated it

[hoary zodiac]

It's ironic because they based half the plot on that singular episode

They just don't get it

[dusk knot]

Fake fans made the show

[hoary zodiac]

This isn't the federation

[dusk knot]

Some elements I observed would have never happened in the originals

[hoary zodiac]

This isn't even post dominion war federation

This is a dystopia

[dusk knot]

Moderne Media doesn't like the idea of a utopia, they always want to deconstructed to make it look bad

[hoary zodiac]

A lot of DS9 and VOY was about how the federation citizens sticks to their principles despite their circumstances

[dusk knot]

It's all dark and violent now

[hoary zodiac]

That's what the section 31 episodes was DS9 in about

Equinox on Voyager

[dusk knot]

Watch that one last week lol

Both parts

It really puts into question how far people are willing to go in order to go home. Good stuff

Even if it means genocide.

Really makes you think

For me that was one of the scariest Star Trek episodes ever

[hoary zodiac]

it's also a testament of federation values

[dusk knot]

It was....

Janeway had to uphold it

[hoary zodiac]

Janeway was willing to destroy another starfleet vessel that could've helped them immensely to prevent the aliens from being harvested

That's peak ST

[dusk knot]

It was

The captain of the equinox eventually changed his mind last second.....

Poor guy, never to see the alpha quadrant again

[hoary zodiac]

Also evil EMH

Really makes you question what would happen if you just flip his morality switch

Like mirror phlox

[dusk knot]

Seeing an evil doctor was terrifying. He could do anything to you since he has an extensive knowledge of your physiology.

No morals to stop him

[hoary zodiac]

And he started exactly like Voyager's EMH

[dusk knot]

Yeah....

Good thing seven promised to make sure no one tinkers with his subroutines again with extra security

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

Meanwhile the Enterprise's EMH

[dusk knot]

Hardly used

[hoary zodiac]

They used it once to distract the Borg

[dusk knot]

I don't even remember what episode it popped up in

[hoary zodiac]

First Contact

[dusk knot]

Oooh .....from the movie

I remember

That Cameo lol

[hoary zodiac]

We had a Defiant and EMH cameo in the same movie

As least we got Janeway in Nemesis

[dusk knot]

Loved how interconnected things were back then

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah

Made sense too

Not just cheap fan service

Defiant had a reason to be there, EMHs were installed on every modern ship

[dusk knot]

This...

Nowadays...they throw logic out the window

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah like "Ro Laren in Starfleet after committing treason"

[dusk knot]

I don't fully remember that one either

💀

Didn't she join the Maki or something

[hoary zodiac]

Honestly season 3 was heavily weighed down by seasons 1-2

Yeah

[dusk knot]

Ok ok

[hoary zodiac]

Picard could've been a decent fan service show without the bloat of seasons 1-2

[dusk knot]

Smh

Yeah

The people they hired for those two seasons was a big mistake

[hoary zodiac]

The data thing was contrived but I'm forgiving them for it

[dusk knot]

I don't

[hoary zodiac]

Because of season 1's crap

[hoary zodiac]

In season 3

[fresh timber]

Hi

[dusk knot]

Oh right

[fresh timber]

12v rail

[hoary zodiac]

It's stupid but it was only stupid because s1-2

[dusk knot]

It was

Only season 3 happened in my eyes

[hoary zodiac]

The borg was also overdone at that point

So the borg plot was pretty underwhelming to me

The changeling was wasted

[dusk knot]

It was.....

There's no talent left in Hollywood

[hoary zodiac]

Seasons 1-2 wasted the borg

The Enterprise-D is a bit contrived too but not implausible

[dusk knot]

They did .....they did....

[hoary zodiac]

To me it feels like undoing the damage of generations

[dusk knot]

Cringe show imo

[hoary zodiac]

So that also gets a pass from me

But still

Even season 3 at it's best is mid fan service

Without seasons 1-2 it would've been high-mid

[dusk knot]

My second favorite St movie after first contact

[hoary zodiac]

That movie is fine until the part where a bird of prey fired 2 shots and caused a warp core breach

[bitter heart]

hi

[hoary zodiac]

And that neck was THICK

[dusk knot]

Hi....@hoary zodiac want to talk in special chat? Lol

[hoary zodiac]

Oh I have one last thing

Just this last one

In the Wrath of Khan the Reliant practically saw through half of the neck and didn't blow up the ship, and yet in generations the D's core (contained in a way thicker neck) went kaboom for way less damage

Ok I'm done

[dusk knot]

Lol

[dusk knot]

Believe it or not I haven't watched the wrath of khan

💀

I'll watch it tonight

[hoary zodiac]

Watch II III and IV as a trilogy

👍🏻

[dusk knot]

Sure

I think I've seen the others

But ok

Well....back to our regularly scheduled programming

[hoary zodiac]

Something

Nvidia AI

https://youtu.be/WlND7pFg2pk

Someone posted this earlier in the middle of the SW/ST convo

[frigid stag]

I thought military grade meant bare minimum I guess it’s a marketing term now

[hoary zodiac]

Russian military

Hawk fan?

🤨

Hawk t-

[bitter heart]

i'm buying a new AM5 motherboard and i'm really confused which B650 model/manufacture should i go with, cuz i heard some serious problems with gigabyte software (GCC) but at affordable value, so is it really matter if the motherboard software is a little awful? and what you personal recommendation

[hoary zodiac]

Which specific board?

[bitter heart]

B650 AORUS ELITE AX

[hoary zodiac]

That's on the mid range of things

Shouldn't be worse than asus prime

(asus prime is god awful at the low-mid range)

[bitter heart]

why is asus prime has bad reviews

[hoary zodiac]

They're just bad

[bitter heart]

oh it's good to know

[hoary zodiac]

Higher end asus prime are fine

[bitter heart]

okay

[hoary zodiac]

Asrock is usually solid

[bitter heart]

any other commend beside gigabyte?

[hoary zodiac]

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B650M-HDVM.2/

[bitter heart]

oh nice

[hoary zodiac]

This board is ok

I'd not buy based on brand

Buy based on specific boards

All brands have misses

More on the low-mid range

A lot of the lower end boards are god awful

From all brands

[ancient swift]

Did y'all see the Co-play AI thing Nvidia is doing?

[bitter heart]

i don't know what could you consider a bad board based on?

[hoary zodiac]

A lot of things

[ancient swift]

https://youtu.be/wEKUSMqrbzQ?si=MP5v4nu9IGwOJiDF

[hoary zodiac]

Bios, vrms, price, features

People still play PUBG?

I'd ask @potent lion for better board recommendations

[ancient swift]

This would be cool in a CO-OP game, why the heck are they putting it in a pvp game. Like imagine Republic commando with actual teammates

[hoary zodiac]

He's good with rhose

Wait

I pinged the wrong one

[ancient swift]

600k Daily on Steam

[hoary zodiac]

@sweet phoenix

[ancient swift]

oh wow they lost a lot of players on steam in the last few days, wonder if somethin happened

[sinful blade]

Real

[dusty bluff]

So what is the best Motherboard for 7700X also for 7800xt

Should i stick with GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX V2

[hoary zodiac]

Depends on your budget

[graceful loom]

idk the cod hq lost 57% of users across 1.5 months

on steam

[dusty bluff]

230$

[hoary zodiac]

I'd ask in #building-and-recc-chat

I'm not the best when it comes to that price range

[sweet phoenix]

Whats up?

[sweet phoenix]

Well first off, did you order all of the other parts yet and just need a mobo?

[hoary zodiac]

lmao I just redirected him to #building-and-recc-chat

rip

[sweet phoenix]

Nw

[unreal trail]

ok

[fresh timber]

Hi

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674849582861254658/1327834602424766525/bafkreia7o5ov6nfii6dzubkkohnhru7pwxc4ykyxyoxceo2jb4xag5j4ly.jpg?ex=678481d7&is=67833057&hm=8c3d75878c29276c3ce46f815a963144be6ddb94c09c4a60017bde3b94617301&

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-out-gif-21999038

[dusk knot]

Lol..me

[opaque sedge]

Idk what it is but i tend to play games i spent more money on a lot more than heavily discounted ones

[dusk knot]

Same

[opaque sedge]

For example elden ring gow ragnarok ghost of tsushima cyberpunk

But games i got dirt cheap?

Nada

[unreal trail]

lol

[opaque sedge]

And they’re supposed to be great games apparently

Like dmc5

[unreal trail]

happens to me on Switch

[opaque sedge]

I got it for dirt cheap but haven’t played it yet

Talking 8 bucks or smth

[unreal trail]

I wishlist them and get them on sale, and dont really mess with them

[misty sparrow]

Same here, I got mass effect for five bucks and haven’t played

[hoary zodiac]

Are these any good?

Basically

[fresh timber]

no

[hoary zodiac]

I'm looking for something that can connect to the building wifi and then route it into my wireless router

[fresh timber]

what speeds are you trying to get?

i know a thing or two about networking

[hoary zodiac]

Doesn't matter

[fresh timber]

wot

[opaque sedge]

Yeah ig it could be a psychological thing where spending more makes us feel obligated to spend a lot of time on it, ig spending more money can equate to higher levels of commitment sometimes…

[hoary zodiac]

It's nowhere near gigabit

[fresh timber]

and?

what speeds do u want

[opaque sedge]

I didn’t think i was so shallow in nature 😔

[fresh timber]

20mbps? 10mbps? 1kbps?

[hoary zodiac]

~100mbps

Doubt the building wifi would be that good

[fresh timber]

what is your budget

[hoary zodiac]

Sub $50

AUD

[fresh timber]

persoanly, id save of go used

[hoary zodiac]

There aren't any in this market

Not with stupid shipping prices anyways

[fresh timber]

is their like an australian ebay or anything cause for $50 i wouldnt bank on aps being goog

[hoary zodiac]

There is

Shipping kills the price

[fresh timber]

oof

[hoary zodiac]

It's a massive pain

[fresh timber]

your budget is holding you back alot

and being australian.. oof

i got my ap for $60

looking at the austrlain amazon, nothing is good on it

not much id trust to do 100mbps

[hoary zodiac]

eh

The building wifi is going to be ass anyways

Anything good wouldn't matter

[fresh timber]

have u confirmed?

[hoary zodiac]

I don't need to

It will be

[fresh timber]

iv use building wifis that done 100/100 before

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not paying that much rent on it

[fresh timber]

iv been in buildings with 1000/1000

i would test before doing anything

where do austrlains buy tech, and i know its not amazon

[hoary zodiac]

Amazon is cheaper

Retailers are a scam

[fresh timber]

i would recommend something a lil more thanm $50 and install ur own operating system

[fresh timber]

well unfortuntly amazon has nothing

[hoary zodiac]

Is that US?

[fresh timber]

this aint bad if u saev up a lil

[hoary zodiac]

I don't have the money

[fresh timber]

is amazon.com.au australian?

$10 over budget

[hoary zodiac]

oh well

[fresh timber]

just make sure ur getting wifi 5 or better

everything at ur budget is utter trash

[hoary zodiac]

Eh

[fresh timber]

not much value

used would be ur saving grace if ur market is good

also being austrlian doesnt help

[hoary zodiac]

I can't spend money I don't have so

[fresh timber]

yeah

get a job or somethin

kek

[hoary zodiac]

wow

Ok

[fresh timber]

im behing honest

that ap is poo

[slate fractal]

they mustve put a little special something into the skyrim ost

ive been on the starting menu for almost 30 minutes just listening to these heavenly noises

[rancid juniper]

Occt linpack + GPU really sucking up that much on the wall

Testing my ram to see if it can handle all that heat

[fresh timber]

how are u monitoring it?

i want

[rancid juniper]

that + an app called ewelink

[fresh timber]

kewlll

chat, im doing my long term review on thermalright fans, after almost a year of having them, they loud at peak rpm but i never run them past 800rpm so they quiet

[frigid stag]

Buy it soon before they ban tplink

[fresh timber]

too bad what i have now is better

[dusk knot]

hhmmmmmmm

[fresh timber]

i have no need for better wireless gear unfortuntly

[dusk knot]

@rancid juniper want to play rivals tomorrow?

[fresh timber]

rivals

[rancid juniper]

yea once i get hw out of the way 🙂

[dusk knot]

ofc ofc

me too

hahhahaha

[frigid stag]

I just have the stock wifi router that came with the internet

It’s decent ish

[fresh timber]

same

it covers the living room

coervage in my room was bad so i put ap in here

[opaque sedge]

I’m just waiting for this controller to come out man

https://www.reddit.com/r/Controller/s/FjQuf4UA5F

[fresh timber]

its weird

ever sense i did wifi in my room, iv ended up putting all my devices on ethernet k

now i only use wifi on my phone kek

[hoary delta]

Twice today I’m watching something through Firefox, it freezes, bookmark bar hides, can’t open or close any apps or even restart or shutdown without ctrl+atl+delete
When I finally can restart or shut down I get a spinning wheel forever. I have to unplug the psu and turn it on again to work

This is either ram or cpu, what do you guys think?

[fresh timber]

lmfaooo gaming ethernet cable

[hoary delta]

Just cleaned a ton from all my drives, before I did that my pc would crash and would have to “check all files” for ~2 hours before turning back on. Maybe it’s related?

[hoary zodiac]

Download crystaldiskinfo

There might be bad sectors

[fresh nova]

That's not CAT 8

fyi

Ethernet cables are my specialty.

[fresh timber]

is it cat 7 i know cat 7 isnt real

[velvet summit]

Technically half real

Cat 7 exists for one of the 2 standardizing entities

[slate fractal]

i have a signal booster for my room because the router is literally on the exact opposite side of the house, I'm pretty sure i get better connection without the booster

[hoary delta]

So you think it’s memory? I’ll get it and get back to you

[slate fractal]

at&t is fun

[velvet summit]

Cat7 exists in ISO standards, but not EIA standards

So basically only America doesn't have cat 7 standardized

[slate fractal]

@velvet summit love the name

[fresh nova]

It's about cable shielding partly, cable shielding is partly what makes the CAT type difference.

True Cat 6A cables are chunky with aluminum shielding.

[fresh nova]

We use Cat6A, like college campuses & etc...unless they're using fiber optic cabling by now.

[hoary delta]

c and o m.2 drives are good one at 62% one at 99%. my 4tb d drive's health status is "caution c5 current pending sector count: 67"

[velvet summit]

Yeah core infra at my college uses fiber optic pretty much exclusively

Though of course, distribution is still copper

Didn't check what category though cat5e would be enough honestly

At least for the links to the clients I mean

[hoary delta]

damn is there anything i can do for a drive with bad sectors?

[velvet summit]

Buy a new one

Asap

Sign of the drive starting to fail

[hoary delta]

only lasted a few years

[velvet summit]

What drive

[hoary delta]

wd4000fyyz https://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-WD4000FYYZ-ENTERPRISE-internal/dp/B00CVT9UH2?th=1

what should i get as a replacement then? Not wd?

at least i know its not the cpu

[icy ore]

i wanna get rid of my hdd all together

[velvet summit]

Ah HDD (this doesn't change that you'll need to replace it though I assumed that it was a SSD)

[icy ore]

so slow man

[frigid stag]

I used wired for anything other than my phone

[hoary delta]

is it user error? i recently cleared a ton from the drive idk maybe i did something wrong. should not last only 3 years

i ordered almost exactly 3 years ago

[velvet summit]

No, some drives just die earlier

[hoary delta]

oh ok

[velvet summit]

Both SSDs and HDDs do this sometimes

Seagate's 3tb is fairly notorious for being unreliable
Actually, odd numbers are often unreliable for whatever reason from whatever company

Honestly a enterprise drive starting to show signs of failure is pretty unlucky lol

[sweet phoenix]

how much space are you using on it?

do you need the full 4tb?

or would 2tb be enough

[hoary delta]

2.6tb of 3.6 available

[sweet phoenix]

theres $90-100 sata 2tb ssds

[hoary delta]

honestly a lot may be trash i have to comb through everything again

[sweet phoenix]

that is if you dont have an nvme slot available

[hoary delta]

my two nvme slots are used

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DZkj4D/silicon-power-a55-2-tb-25-solid-state-drive-sp002tbss3a55s25

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GdcG3C/teamgroup-qx-4-tb-25-solid-state-drive-t253x74000g0c101

ofc if you need cheaper storage hdds make sense

[fresh nova]

Yes but I had a professor once that wired his entire classroom with the thicc Cat6A it was hilarious.

[hoary zodiac]

Do modern cases come with 2 3.5" bays these days

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[sweet phoenix]

depends on the case, my p360a has space for 2 if not 3

[hoary zodiac]

hmm

[sweet phoenix]

sama q5 has 2

[velvet summit]

Complete opposite here
All the clients are wired with the ultra thin patch cables

And have a Master Lock on them (very secure frfr)

[hoary zodiac]

MASTER LOCK

[fresh nova]

CAT6A is giga chad

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/s5jzHw3lXCQ

[velvet summit]

Overkill though

Limited to gigabit speeds

[fresh timber]

so it doesnt exist cause im american

[velvet summit]

Too american for the lucky 7

[fresh timber]

my cat 6a cables dont look chunky

ummmmm

o no

[fresh nova]

They're prob Cat5e

[fresh timber]

lemmie find the listing

[velvet summit]

Ftp cables are such a pain

[fresh nova]

You've been scammed

[velvet summit]

They are not very flexible

[fresh timber]

i bought from monoprice

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how many cat 6 cables or "cat 7" cables are actually 5e

I mean the general consumer won't notice

[velvet summit]

Monoprice is generally reliable

Though I've never tried their ultra thin patch cables

[hoary zodiac]

I want to get a spool of cables

[velvet summit]

I don't see much benefit asides from it being easier to run

[hoary zodiac]

And just route it through someone's walls

[fresh timber]

re they not 6a

[fresh nova]

Behold true Cat6A

[fresh timber]

why mono price scamming

i must return

[fresh nova]

See in the photo the FTP cable

[velvet summit]

Not even your walls

[fresh timber]

i want 6a

[fresh nova]

Those are the Cat6A cables I make

[fresh timber]

u should see the flat 6a cable i use

[fresh nova]

Very very resistant to interference & individually stranded pairs.

Flat cables are a total scam...unless you're running the cable through somewhere where you need the flat cable like idk through a narrow opening or something.

[fresh timber]

i ❤️ my flat cable cause its better than wifi

[fresh nova]

They allow for SOOO much interference

[fresh nova]

Can't argue that. Nothing compares to Wi-Fi interference.

[hoary delta]

got another 4tb hdd on the way, will be installing it on monday thanks for the help @stray sigil @hoary zodiac

[frigid stag]

Aha I knew it

[pseudo patrol]

lol

[hoary delta]

next one will be an ssd

[hoary zodiac]

👍🏻

[frigid stag]

As soon as I saw them in amazon I knew it had to be a meme

[hoary zodiac]

Glad you caught it before you started losing data

[fresh timber]

speed

[hoary delta]

no kidding

[frigid stag]

Cat 8 bro has that nasa internet💀

[fresh timber]

bro does know nothing does 40gbps over copper right

[pseudo patrol]

cat 9 eth when

[fresh timber]

the equirpment isnt a thing

[velvet summit]

Normally people use it for things like under carpet or like around tight corners

[fresh nova]

Yeah this stuff

[fresh timber]

i hid mines under the floorboards in my room so i dont see it going through my moca adapter

[velvet summit]

Possibly will never exist with the cost of fiber optic going down

[fresh timber]

10gig is already cheap

[fresh nova]

All he needs is a true Cat6A cable. Very tough to bend but highly resistant.

[frigid stag]

Mine goes next to the walls 💀

[frigid stag]

There’s cat 7 too but apparently it’s not a “real standard” like what

[fresh timber]

i only use my flat cable to get internet from xfinity, the rest are those 6a monoprice cables and a single random ahh cat5e cable that cant do more than 800mbps locally

[velvet summit]

It's not a real standard because it doesn't exist in the us therefore it's fake news frfr

[frigid stag]

[fresh timber]

not real in usa

[fresh timber]

alot of people in r/homelab agree its fake

[fresh nova]

Feast your eyes

[fresh timber]

wtf is going on

how does that cable work..

[pseudo patrol]

wire leak

[fresh timber]

My internet

[frigid stag]

Ye in networking sub too

https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeNetworking/comments/rpuwew/its_been_said_before_but_ill_say_it_again_stop/

[velvet summit]

Terminated terribly, the conductors were not trimmed properly, not the correct connector either for a ftp cable lol and the cable sheathing isn't fully inside the connector

[fresh nova]

Yeah I had the wrong ends for that cable so I used Cat5e ends & it was a little too tight...

[frigid stag]

“It’s only available from suppliers”

If only there was a way to test if it’s real

[fresh timber]

byrce like my screenbeam

[velvet summit]

Honestly wouldn't recommend anything more than cat 6 not a
Supports enough bandwidth for any use realistically

And for the use cases that need more, you already know what you need

[fresh timber]

i like cat6a

cheap

why not

10gbase-t supremency

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/lowtiergod-meme-lowtiergod-mods-moderators-gif-6196590610942002814

[fresh nova]

Tell me about it bro, using the wrong tools for the job sucks!

But I wasn't gonna buy a whole case of connectors for one cable, I improvised...

[velvet summit]

Lmao

[fresh nova]

copper make contact = all gucci

In the right order.

🙂

[velvet summit]

I would have electrical taped it so I would never have to see the terrible handiwork again

Sealed away forever

[fresh timber]

10gbase-t

we love how hot it gets

[velvet summit]

Never to see the light of day

[fresh nova]

🙂

[fresh timber]

i dread the day i have to make my own cables

[fresh nova]

It's not hard.

[fresh timber]

o i know

i jsut hate efford

[fresh nova]

Just make sure you get the right connectors, don't be like me & use a cat 5 connector with a Cat 6A F/UTP cable.

[fresh timber]

kek

i dont plan on buying less than 6a in my life

unless im budget

ugh trying to find things to make my setup better

i already need a longer ethernet cable 😦

[pseudo patrol]

i got a 50 ft eth cable coming from downstairs lol

works perfeclt

for lik 4 yrs

[fresh timber]

what changed

[storm narwhal]

CAT 6 is usually good enough for most people

[fresh timber]

i got the ramdom almost midn night urge to clean my setyo

[pseudo patrol]

nothin, i still use it lol

im jus sayin its hella durable

[fresh timber]

o nice

i need a 50 pack of these

mines break so much

[fresh timber]

kek

bro

i need to spend like $40 in cables im sad

[hoary zodiac]

This was a troll

Don't buy a spool of cables

[fresh timber]

lol im trying to figure out which of these are going to sit closer to the desk and fit some of my loose cables

[wraith fern]

Mine goes through my attic

[hoary zodiac]

The cables are in your walls

[wraith fern]

True

[hoary zodiac]

They live in there

They listen to your traffic

They know what you watch at 11pm

[tranquil pebble]

can't wait for my 9800x3d to arrive so I can finally be on an up to date platform

[devout forum]

Congrats

[tranquil pebble]

Going to have a total of 3 GPUs. One integrated l, one 6900 XT and one MI50. The MI50 will be used to offload compute workloads.

[pseudo patrol]

is that on the new gigagbyte 50 series

[hoary zodiac]

Yes

[pseudo patrol]

oo I might hav to get the gigabyte ver instead of nvidia

good reliability

I had em for years

I wonder if the price will be similar

[tranquil pebble]

I might get myself an OLED as my next monitor

[dusk knot]

😏

[regal matrix]

Does anyone know how it works to buy the new gpus when they come out like will I be able to buy one or will they be sold out instantly???

[fresh timber]

TUAH

[hoary zodiac]

There it is

[pseudo patrol]

It depends on the retailers, Nvidia will drop it on their site available during release which is somewhere in Feb. Along with other sites Amazon, BestBuy, etc; but you'd def have to be quick before scalpers and resellers which will inflated the price 20%

[hoary zodiac]

I wouldn't buy anything unless there are confirmed benchmarks

They are not looking good at the moment

[regal matrix]

So what do you guys think the best way to buy would be?

[pseudo patrol]

orders without opening then returns after bad reviews

[lone mango]

[regal matrix]

I’ve had a 1060 since 2018 so its def time for a upgrade 😅

[hoary zodiac]

I'd still wait for reviews

[regal matrix]

they gotta be better than the 40 series at least right?

[hoary zodiac]

You might be able to get a last gen card for cheaper and get more performance

[regal matrix]

And are other companies card versions better than the nvidia version

?

[hoary zodiac]

As I said

[pseudo patrol]

jus wait for reviews to drop once it releases

so u wont regret ur purchase

they're saying AI wont be better than raw performance of the 40 series right now

[hoary zodiac]

Reviews

[pseudo patrol]

so we gotta see the final decision

[regal matrix]

Damn I just had a 4080 super on the way but I canceled it when they announced these😓

[sage sluice]

Right now if you don't care about raytracing and want more raster amd is hard not to recommend at this price point

7900 xtx is 4080 super equivalent with WAY more bang for the buck

Imo at least

If you can grab one for around 800 youre golden

[pseudo patrol]

patience is key in this moment

[regal matrix]

Yea lowkey I just want really good fps in fort

[sage sluice]

I disagree with that, i think buying something before tariffs is the smarter move

[hoary zodiac]

Eh

[tranquil pebble]

There are some games where it trades blows with a 4090 iirc

[hoary zodiac]

I'd still wait for reviews

[pseudo patrol]

i might order and return before 30 days if it goes wrong lol

incase jackpot

[tranquil pebble]

if more people had this we wouldn't have such a scalper problem

[sage sluice]

At this price point fortnite would be the bottleneck with its crummy perf issues, both a 4080 and xtx would do wonders, xtx just for a better price

[sage sluice]

True

[pseudo patrol]

I remember preordering the ps5 when it first dropped and felt so relieved lmao

[hoary zodiac]

ps5 has no games

[sage sluice]

I think becoming the scalper is the only real benefit from buying a card on launch tbh, and that would take chucking your morals

[regal matrix]

Is there like high odds the performance on the 50 series is gonna suck or sum?

[hoary zodiac]

It looks like it

[sage sluice]

Also there are gonna be some nasty bots waiting on preorder

[hoary zodiac]

But again wait for reviews

[lone mango]

Is it repaste time

[pseudo patrol]

true, i mainly played it for the psvr2 and improved updates on gta5

[lone mango]

Idk this could be coincidental because the heating is cracked rn

[sage sluice]

It won't suck at all, just won't have any real value for the money unless you really like glorified software or are in a field where you actually need a Nvidia card

It could be a good surprise tho, who knows

[regal matrix]

I was just thinking this is the last card I buy in a long time so might as well get the best out rn

[pseudo patrol]

for 4090 performance on a below $600 card might be a steal if it's a success

[hoary zodiac]

That is extremely unlikely

[sage sluice]

That'll be more expensive in the long run, just get the best value now tbh

[hoary zodiac]

It's most likely 4090 performance with DLSS and FG

[lone mango]

Not extremely unlikely its not possible

Thats what it is, not likely

[hoary zodiac]

And nvidia is too greedy to sell that for under $600

[lone mango]

Nvidia does it every generation

[pseudo patrol]

maxed out dlss 4.0

heavily used on nvidia app

wont work correctly without it

[lone mango]

Nvidia did the same thing last gen too

[sage sluice]

That's one of the big factors of my doubt

Also seeing linus with the 5090 gives me little hope

[regal matrix]

Do other card versions have anything to do with performance like msi or asus

[pseudo patrol]

also have to rely on games that support dlss 4.0

[hoary zodiac]

Depends on the specific card

[pseudo patrol]

some

[hoary zodiac]

MSI and ASUS both makes slop

[pseudo patrol]

im getting gigabyte ver

[hoary zodiac]

And they both make good cards

[mortal grail]

They said this is specifically "with AI" so it's MFG which is only supported in a handful of games

[pseudo patrol]

never lets me down

[regal matrix]

What’s the best one

[hoary zodiac]

Again

[pseudo patrol]

exactly

[hoary zodiac]

Reviews

There are no numbers at the moment

[sage sluice]

Little variation between cards typically besides some overclocks here and there, different fans and fan quality, better or worse heatsinks, general noise and cooling

[tranquil pebble]

istg DLSS framegen is like a ginmicky version of SLI

[sage sluice]

And no manufacturer is really the best between card generations, kinda just gotta pick which one is best for which

Which is where reviews come in

[regal matrix]

Is the version made from nvidea the worst? Because it looks like it don’t have as much fans as the others

[pseudo patrol]

50 series gonna have a broken RTX super resolution lmao

[hoary zodiac]

You won't know that until reviews

[sage sluice]

Founders edition seems pretty general

Nothing special but functional

[hoary zodiac]

There are cards worse than reference models

[sage sluice]

And better

[mortal grail]

MFG only has some value cos reflex 2 exists to eliminate the extra overhead it* added. Without it it's as bad as the HDR era of TVs 💀

[sage sluice]

Goes both ways

[mortal grail]

It has 3 PCBs

Also liquid metal which always goes wrong

In that way it's special for sure

[sage sluice]

We're all a little special, right guys?

[mortal grail]

I said this with LM in asus laptops

And it happened with LM in ps5s

[sage sluice]

Liquid metal sounds like a sick band

Or genre

[mortal grail]

People are going to be RMAing cards cos "My card don't work for some reason??" [Shows pic of vertical 5090]

They're doomed from the start

[sage sluice]

I see it already

[mortal grail]

You'll get a card from the store, and it's doa cos it was packed vertically

Lmao

[sage sluice]

💀

[mortal grail]

There's no escaping this

There's a whole decade of stories about this from everything else

[sage sluice]

How to make something fragile even moreso

[mortal grail]

LOL

[pseudo patrol]

imagine buying a 5090 then weeks later, "Why is my gpu corrupting"

[mortal grail]

It won't even be corruption

It'll be complete death

[pseudo patrol]

corrupting is the first stage

black out screens

popping in and out

[mortal grail]

LM bridging from leaking is a sure fire kill

[pseudo patrol]

then kill switch

gg

[sage sluice]

It's for people who have to play everything on hard mode, they need that extra challenge and suspense

[mortal grail]

Asus laptops have this issue constantly

[sage sluice]

Who's idea was that honestly

[mortal grail]

Even some of the most careful people with overclocking, they do a perfect application

Then 6 months later

A pool of LM on their motherboard

It always happens

[mortal grail]

Idk but their graphic card is small because of it

[sage sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/viscous-deadlock-viscous-viscous-lore-gif-1982888210221680263

[mortal grail]

The double blowthrough is intelligent

But LM did a lot of that temperature change

[pseudo patrol]

waking up to a LM meltdown overnight

[mortal grail]

Yeah it literally is

Now you need to avoid a 12vhpwr AND LM spill

[sage sluice]

Liquid coolers are already scary enough, now my gpu is constantly under threat of an even easier leak

[mortal grail]

This generation is such a skip lmao

[sage sluice]

It's almost as if fluid adds a bajillion more points of failure

[mortal grail]

You wanna see what it costs in my country

[sage sluice]

Oh lord

Hit me with it

[mortal grail]

They're talking about this

Adding on top of 4039

Meanwhile

[pseudo patrol]

[sage sluice]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-honest-reaction-skull-skeleton-gif-7769318199696770420

[mortal grail]

I paid this in 2022

[pseudo patrol]

surely the 60 series will be better

[mortal grail]

People say it's because of "distribution" bla blah

No

[sage sluice]

Scamming

It's because of scamming

[mortal grail]

They're literally charging some 70% more

It's stores

So like

I take a pretty neutral stance with 50 series rn

But MAN

I will NEVER

Recommend it in Australia

This is the biggest possible ripoff in years lol

[sage sluice]

5000 series looks bland but fine

Here

[mortal grail]

In 2021 peak covid pricing was about $200 more for a 3090 compared to the possible base price of a 5090

Australia is gone for 50 series

[sage sluice]

5090 shortage before they're even released

Now that takes talent

[mortal grail]

I'm sweating bullets man

I'm not sure what the prices will be and tariffs aren't even in place yet 💀

I definitely have 0 interest in new gpus as a result

Maybe a 9070XT if it ends up much less as they're saying

[sage sluice]

Just take a vacation in the us and save 500$

[mortal grail]

If I shopped smart, I probably could do that

[hoary zodiac]

I almost shopped smart

[mortal grail]

Save more money just flying with a suitcase over

[hoary zodiac]

until I spent way too much money on one item

[hoary zodiac]

lol that's why I sold my old desktop and bought a laptop

cheaper and safer

enthoo pro 2 is a pain in the ass to ship

[mortal grail]

I meant come back with a 5090 in it

Lmao

[sage sluice]

Shopping smart is so last year. Actually many years ago, prices are too dumb nowadays

[hoary zodiac]

also

Australian retailers are a scam

I could ship something all the way from the US and it'll still be cheaper than JB HiFi

same with anything else really

amazon is cheaper

[mortal grail]

Jb in general is bad tho

[hoary zodiac]

JB is like

[mortal grail]

Like an outlier type bad

[hoary zodiac]

the apple store

overpriced crap

but more crap

[mortal grail]

Except it sucks

💀

Even the apple store tries with support

Jb are just asses

[hoary zodiac]

$20 for a usb c cable? why don't you go rob a bank

[sage sluice]

Actually would selling a 4090 in australia and buying a 5090 from america to roo land be a net positive? 💀

[pseudo patrol]

we got 5090 bestbuy reviews before release

[mortal grail]

LMAO

Ah man

If that worked

[mortal grail]

Omfg

[hoary zodiac]

meanwhile on amazon

TWO cables

and they're 1M cables

[mortal grail]

Maybe I wait until a 4090 is worth nearly 4 grand

[hoary zodiac]

not 0.5 scam cables

[mortal grail]

[hoary zodiac]

I hate JB

[mortal grail]

Good pick too tbh

Ugreen is awesome

[hoary zodiac]

Ugreen is solid

Chinese pride

[sage sluice]

I miss spare chargers being plentiful

[mortal grail]

Just goated cables no drama

[hoary zodiac]

they're cheap and they don't fall apart too easily

[pseudo patrol]

chinese companies come in clutch

[hoary zodiac]

I like them

[mortal grail]

That 5090 better come with a spare charger here

A spare dodge charger

Cos jfc

I could buy 3 commodores with a 4090 for that 5090 price

[hoary zodiac]

I bought an anker 65w USB pd charger

for convenience sakes

usb pd is the goat

[sage sluice]

Thing better come with some shiny gold flake covering it

[hoary zodiac]

I could game on usb pd*

(less intensive games)*

[wicked oriole]

Dumb question but can cods ram files be managed?

[mortal grail]

Shiny mini jensen jacket

And one of jensens goddamn fingers

[sage sluice]

That is so foul

[mortal grail]

This is a blood oath

[hoary zodiac]

jensen barbie when

[mortal grail]

I stg

[wicked oriole]

Game was running fine, clocking like 16 giga of ram now max it will pull is 8 and keeps crashing

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/beer-gif-3080179580444295005

[mortal grail]

HE'D FIT THAT SO WELL STOP

[wicked oriole]

I'm running a memory test rn

[sage sluice]

Selling feature would be its disco ball mode when you shine a flashlight at it

(Flashlight not included)

[hoary zodiac]

there's a button on him

when you press it he yaps about AI

[mortal grail]

Cod is wild to me. You can benchmark with 16gb vram but then you activate dlss even a little bit and it drops to 4

[sage sluice]

No that features only unlockable with the 4.99 a month subscription

[wicked oriole]

No this is my actual ram usage, my vram is stuck at 12702

[hoary zodiac]

$14.99 for chatgpt integration

[mortal grail]

How much ram you got

[wicked oriole]

32 gigs

[mortal grail]

Odd

Restarting?

[sage sluice]

15.99 and he'll throw in dlss

[hoary zodiac]

activision optimisation strikes again?

[hoary zodiac]

free subscription to GeForce Now lowest tier

[wicked oriole]

Usually w how I have everything set up at mostly max I pull like 16ish w discord on

[mortal grail]

Tried restarting pc?

[hoary zodiac]

1070 performance and no RT... nvidia is not that nice

[wicked oriole]

Was running fine, until I crashed, I turned off my gpu OC still wouldn't load is stuck at the squib games login

[mortal grail]

Low ram usage could be an indicator of ram yeah

Could be a few things tho

[wicked oriole]

Also cod hq near tanks my shii on startup because of the 3 game integration lol

[mortal grail]

Hard to say without more symptoms

[mortal grail]

I've heard that launcher is a nightmare

[wicked oriole]

Cpu utilization gets to like 90% on startup it's actually disgusting

[mortal grail]

Sounds like asset caching

Every time tho would be horrendous

It's only supposed to do it once every so often

[wicked oriole]

Oh 😅

I figured it was because it was trying to load the options of 3 different games

[mortal grail]

Don't worry, no one taught me that either

Lol

[wicked oriole]

So how do I look into that?

Right now I'm running the memory diagnostic tool, although I doubt it's my memory tbh

[mortal grail]

Without any like, really clear hint what's going on, it's kinda hard to say what it is

You could try downclocking ram and cpu if you have a cpu that allows it

That's a pretty straightforward method

[wicked oriole]

That's fair i have a code, but when I Google it they said to turn off my xmp and that doesn't sound right

[mortal grail]

Sfc scan also tells a lot

If you get a nil reading it rules out unstable hardware mostly

If you get a positive reading then conversely it rules in unstable hardware

It's useful

[mortal grail]

It can work

But if it does then you are right to be doing a memory test lol

[wicked oriole]

Too much of a hassle on my end that's why I had to ask

[mortal grail]

https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/

If you want a real mem test

[wicked oriole]

Appreciate it, don't know what I'm doing with that which is why I'm just running the system tool 😅

[mortal grail]

Alr

It has instructions tho if you are struggling to find anything that works

[wicked oriole]

It's gotta be cod cause I feel like my other games would be fine

[mortal grail]

Cod historically is the outlier in many cases in general lol

[wicked oriole]

Imma eat and wait for this to be done, pass 1 is almost done with no problems

[hoary zodiac]

I should game on a nas

[mortal grail]

Nas an alright idea

Ima dip too

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder how eu4 will run

[mortal grail]

Hppefully more prices surface

[hoary zodiac]

2D map games might not run like complete crap

hmmmm

gigabit gaming might actually not be too bad

if I'm playing a stupid map game

[mortal grail]

@rancid juniper https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/558522538700046348/1327901703965773865/MedalTVBeamNGdrive20250109204344-tr-edit.mp4?ex=6784c055&is=67836ed5&hm=4d3001568b078fc115129db28168040c09d70f3195abe1955f8b8968768b3a45&

[opaque sedge]

ngl the new legion go s might not be a good buy over the oled steam deck

the steam 500 buck version is gonna use the z2go

[wicked oriole]

So cod looks like the memory is attempting to read at a memory address it shouldn't be reading at?

[tranquil pebble]

That can be a driver issue

[wicked oriole]

Interesting, will re look at my cpu driver

[tranquil pebble]

GPU driver is honestly the most likely cause

[devout forum]

More 9070 XT stuff https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-9070-xt-tested-at-3dmark-offering-faster-performance-than-rtx-4080-super/

Naturally third party so small pile of salt warning in effect

[random osprey]

give me yeston anime waifu version

so names are getting weird now

wasnt last gpu 7900xt or something and now its 9070

[devout forum]

it sure looks like AMD might be shooting for the 4080/5080 with this one

[fresh timber]

legion go s has a better cpu and gpu so its better

more fps go brrrr

my main complaint wiith the old legion go with z1 extreme, to little power for such a large and high refreshrate display

1440p 144hz? good luck

[devout forum]

3 GHz boost clocks on the 9070 XT might be spicy

[fresh timber]

z2 go is prob goign to be weaker or on par with z1 extreme graphics wise

[fresh timber]

if its 4080 im abonodning all nvidia plans and going to cope with amd a little longer

[hoary zodiac]

Rise of Radeon

would be extremely funny if the 9070 XT comes anywhere near a 5090

[fresh timber]

it wont

[mortal grail]

Don't be silly

[fresh timber]

they did say it was going to be slower than xtx right

[devout forum]

it's on par with a 4080 raster and a 4070 Ti S in RT

[mortal grail]

💀

[hoary zodiac]

oh

9070 isn't the flagship?

[mortal grail]

They said that yet the numbers surfacing show it doing near XTX numbers (grain of salt)

[fresh timber]

didnt amd say they wasnt going for xtx

[devout forum]

which if true over all benchmarks, for 330 watts and less than 600 dollars MSRP sounds really good

[fresh timber]

o intresting

[mortal grail]

Yeah they did lol

[fresh timber]

near xtx for how much money

🤔

[hoary zodiac]

they might be going all in on price competition

[fresh timber]

$500? gotta see how 5070 perfroms

[devout forum]

IIRC 550 is the rumored MSRP

[mortal grail]

Multiple sources suggesting $480-$550 but that could always change

[devout forum]

but again

[hoary zodiac]

imagine XTX performance for $550

that'd be extremely funny

[devout forum]

330 watt TDP, 4080 raster perf, 4070 Ti S RT perf for 550
With Radeon driver development tendencies

Very promising if true

[fresh timber]

4080 raster woulld mean a few % off xtx