general-chat

[hoary zodiac]

sort of not

[safe cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb4_4I5wuUA

[mortal grail]

It wasn't an easy fix it took a destroy company 80 billion dollars in value and 2 years

[safe cape]

cool pc

[nocturne flicker]

Also, a lot of people are in the get burned once and never come back crowd

[mortal grail]

Stop. It's fixed.

[hoary zodiac]

is it?

[mortal grail]

If it wasn't I'd have two broken PC's rn

Any current degrading issues are old chips previously affected or affected without the user knowing

[hoary zodiac]

I swear I heard GN still being skeptical

[mortal grail]

The reported issues fell right off

[hoary zodiac]

must've been an older report

[fresh timber]

true true

[mortal grail]

I was scanning every forum like daily for months

[fresh timber]

true

[mortal grail]

I'd know before GN

[lone mango]

But what if you buy it and it has the old versions

[safe cape]

this with a 5070sff

[mortal grail]

You update

[fresh timber]

oo

[mortal grail]

Immediately

[lone mango]

Thats probably why he was still skeptical then if that was actually true

[fresh timber]

i have a atx and matx pc, do i make itx next

[safe cape]

do e atx

[fresh timber]

NO

[safe cape]

YES

[fresh timber]

my atx is already too mf big

[mortal grail]

Htpc 5070

[lone mango]

here is a pretty cheap build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GHQqdb

[nocturne flicker]

Atx too big?

[fresh timber]

if i got a 5070 its going in my main rig

[hoary zodiac]

why stop at eatx

[fresh timber]

YSE

[hoary zodiac]

have two pcs in your case

[nocturne flicker]

Why

[lone mango]

Maybe

[hoary zodiac]

stupid clipboard

[nocturne flicker]

ATX good size

[fresh timber]

the case i wanted almost did

[fresh timber]

not mines

i use a nv5

[nocturne flicker]

ATX is a standard form factor

[safe cape]

3400G IN 2024

NOO

[nocturne flicker]

There is no one board is bigger if they are both ATX

[fresh timber]

i almost got ths case for $100

[lone mango]

Unc is using the web browser its perfectly ok

[hoary zodiac]

I like cloud's the only person considering perf/$

[mortal grail]

Clone #47201

[fresh timber]

lol

its a nice case

LOOK AT IT

[nocturne flicker]

Buy Haswell and put LF2 on it

[hoary zodiac]

meh

[mortal grail]

OH GOD GLASS FRONT

[hoary zodiac]

O11D clone

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

🥱

[fresh timber]

i wanted it

[hoary zodiac]

generic

[fresh timber]

but it was out of stock

so i got nv5

[safe cape]

4C/4T NO THANKS

[fresh timber]

i almost got the y40 but it cost too much

[hoary zodiac]

it just looks like every other O11D clone

[hoary zodiac]

you don't get it

youtube.com is the most intensive thing that will run

[mortal grail]

I was rejected for perf/$ so now I am going overkill to infinite

[hoary zodiac]

same

[lone mango]

The 3400g has smt

[hoary zodiac]

stupid people get stupid lists

[lone mango]

So 8t

[fresh timber]

do the other clones have dual pc support

if i had that case my server and pc would be in the same build

[lone mango]

The ryzen 3 has no smt

[mortal grail]

Inb4 o11 dual pc mod

[frigid stag]

It has smt

[mortal grail]

Atx poking out the top

[frigid stag]

I’m pretty sure they’re all 4c 8t

[fresh timber]

4c4t

2300x

[hoary zodiac]

3200g is 4c/4t

[nocturne flicker]

Wait a minute you think a mid tower is too big?

[fresh timber]

yes

[hoary zodiac]

remember this is when kaby lake was mainstream

[fresh timber]

it is

[nocturne flicker]

You ain't seen nothing yet

[hoary zodiac]

kaby lake

[lone mango]

They need to make 3s again

[fresh timber]

i have a small desk and oversized monitors

[nocturne flicker]

Full tower go brrrrrrr

[fresh timber]

iv seen the nv9, i think its TOOOOO big

[mortal grail]

Give me enough taco bell and I'll make 3s

[lone mango]

4 core zen 5 that isnt epyc

[hoary zodiac]

you know what's the funniest thing

we could build an actual good value gaming pc for the same price

[nocturne flicker]

I have my Lancool 2 Mesh on a nightstand

[hoary zodiac]

we do have the budget for a 6750xt build

[mortal grail]

I could destroy all these lists but JP said no

😤

[hoary zodiac]

nah

JP just taking orders

[fresh timber]

6750xt has good drivers can confirm no isseues with one really

[lone mango]

Does linux really not have a gui uninstaller like how windows has control panel for uninstalling

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-just-following-orders-nami-emily-rudd-one-piece-i'm-just-obeying-orders-gif-15958269097224344109

[mortal grail]

Windows ruined this

[hoary zodiac]

what the hell is a gui uninstaller

[lone mango]

My ass really gotta scroll through all these programs in the terminal

[pliant berry]

its called a package manager, the superior way to manage applications

[mortal grail]

Windows has like 4 places they want you to uninstall from now

[hoary zodiac]

cloud

[mortal grail]

It used to JUST BE control panel

[fresh timber]

i uninstall from the file manager

[hoary zodiac]

just uninstall it with the package manager

what are you trying to uninstall?

[fresh timber]

why do i always fill my c drive

[frigid stag]

That’s a big desk

[pliant berry]

bad storage management

smh

[hoary zodiac]

also fun fact about Nobara: It's made by the same person who develop the Proton-GE github builds

[fresh timber]

not big enough for a pc

[hoary zodiac]

you'd get solid support from this guy

[lone mango]

I already got rid of it but it wasnt installed with flatpak

[hoary zodiac]

wait

is it ubuntu based?

oh fedora

use dnf

[lone mango]

Yeah I forgot his name but he is the gaming chad

[lone mango]

Correct

[hoary zodiac]

sudo dnf remove [x]

[fresh timber]

remove desktop, embrace cli

[nocturne flicker]

No it isn't

[mortal grail]

Are you ready for big brain

[lone mango]

Is that bottom intake even doing anything

[hoary zodiac]

I'll remove you in a minute

[mortal grail]

Rotate pc ccw 90 degrees, move to left side

Move everything else to the right

[hoary zodiac]

Poor JP's getting all the heat for his uncle's pc build

F in the chat for JP

[mortal grail]

JP WANTED OVER

KILL

Wow i brain farted

[fresh timber]

crampt asf now

[hoary zodiac]

I think we can all agree that JP did the opposite of killing chat this time

[fresh timber]

if it wasnt for my monitor arm both my screens wouldnt fit

[frigid stag]

https://tenor.com/view/revive-chat-gif-23218952

[nocturne flicker]

I've used smaller spaces with a monitor, PS3, a full size tower, a PS2 and some clutter on the desk

[mortal grail]

Swap arm to other side

[lone mango]

I love nobara so much it looks amazing

[fresh timber]

i serously doubt my pc would fit in any config that doesnt involve removing stuff

[hoary zodiac]

Nobara with KDE should be good

KDE plasma has a lot of customisation options

[frigid stag]

Mount the monitor arm on the wall

[lone mango]

Yeah

[hoary zodiac]

you can avoid the terminal as well

although I'd still use the terminal for package management

[fresh timber]

ask the landlord to change my lease to allow that plz

[mortal grail]

Try using your legs as the monitor mount

[lone mango]

I did the official release which is kde but with some different colors

[dusk knot]

I'll make an Intel build this time

[lone mango]

Thats what Im realizing

[fresh timber]

i never thoguht abt that

[hoary zodiac]

IMO KDE is bloated but it's GREAT in terms of features

[nocturne flicker]

Maybe try having less monitors

[lone mango]

its not had to do

[mortal grail]

This is why I'm techie dude

[fresh timber]

two is still too little 😦

[hoary zodiac]

I'm calling KDE bloated but

[lone mango]

Even then its still better than windows so idc

[hoary zodiac]

look at its resource usage

[nocturne flicker]

Two is too many

[lone mango]

fr

[hoary zodiac]

it's really really not bad at all

it's really good

[nocturne flicker]

Alt tab is frend

[frigid stag]

Or could mount it to the side of the desk

[hoary zodiac]

KDE shows that you can be bloated AND perform well

[fresh timber]

mid

[hoary zodiac]

and the bloat usually actually serve a purpose

[fresh timber]

why alt tab when u ccan have a monitor dedicated for each task

[hoary zodiac]

so it's not like wincrap bloat

[fresh timber]

Ugh

[lone mango]

its not bloated like windows tho

I dont think its enough to make a difference

[hoary zodiac]

It's the good kind of bloat

[nocturne flicker]

I'm not deep enough in my ADHD to have more than one monitor. If I really really need to have more than one thing open I just use my phone

[hoary zodiac]

you don't need a lot of the packages but they do add to the experience when you do

[lone mango]

Bloat thats not bloat

[mortal grail]

Why have window for each task when tv big enough for 4 24" window

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

It will annoying a linux minimalist like me but

[fresh timber]

refreshrates

[hoary zodiac]

for the average user KDE is AMAZING

[fresh timber]

pixel density

[hoary zodiac]

I've mentioned the customisation already but

[mortal grail]

I am 120 ps6 ready

[mortal grail]

Sit further back

[fresh timber]

oo

[hoary zodiac]

you can do A LOT with plasma

[fresh timber]

mhh

[mortal grail]

Mhh hhh indeed

[lone mango]

The animations are so smooth

[fresh timber]

is it weid that my chair hits my bed

[hoary zodiac]

you can customise the tiling

[lone mango]

Like it just looks amazing

[hoary zodiac]

you can customise the toolbars, the themes

all without using the terminal

[lone mango]

Yeah

[nocturne flicker]

Like sometimes I keep discord open on my phone when I am playing for Elite Dangerous or something. Because ED has a fair amount of wasted time

[mortal grail]

You should call bed support

No one deserves to be hit

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/not-tommy-gif-25378561

[fresh timber]

peak

[nocturne flicker]

Turn bed into desk, then chair won't hit bed

[mortal grail]

Ok I didn't even smile at that one I think Ima head out

Lmao

[lone mango]

I also like how it shows what is on my clipboard next to the audio

[hoary zodiac]

did we bully you into using obs

lmao

[fresh timber]

no i just record

i recored some hell let loose earlier

[lone mango]

Can also easily adjust monitor settings too

[wanton halo]

The 5090 is future proof for the future no bap

[hoary zodiac]

it's future proof until the next gen out and destroys it for half the price

[lone mango]

[hoary zodiac]

if not next gen, the gen after

[fresh timber]

4mins of recording 2GB, so happy i record to my nas

[hoary zodiac]

what bitrate are you using?

jesus

[lone mango]

is bro really recording uncomressed video

[fresh timber]

unforntuly my recordings are cooked cause my encoder overloaded

[hoary zodiac]

radeon?

[fresh timber]

i use amd gpu yes

[hoary zodiac]

what codec are you using?

[fresh timber]

AV1

[hoary zodiac]

yeah no shot

[fresh timber]

space isnt a issue for me

[lone mango]

What av1 quality setting is it

[hoary zodiac]

crank the bitrate down

[lone mango]

Is it the highest

[fresh timber]

why? space isnt an issue for me

[hoary zodiac]

also just use h264

[lone mango]

Nah

[fresh timber]

ew wtf

[hoary zodiac]

the gpu will have an easier time with it

[fresh timber]

h264 🤮

[lone mango]

7000 h264 is not good

You can do av1 but turn down the quality

[fresh timber]

iv been running balanced

balanced doesnt lag

[hoary zodiac]

my question is how is av1 this inefficient

[lone mango]

How is cqp 15 doing half a gig every minute

[fresh timber]

its not, i just choose to require better quality

[hoary zodiac]

this sounds like a skill issue

have you heard of the concept of diminishing return?

[lone mango]

Wait are you recording 1440p

[fresh timber]

i never said i had a problem with the high data usage????

[fresh timber]

yeah

[lone mango]

Oh ok

[fresh timber]

reminder, im not complaining

[lone mango]

Thats why

Nah I was just wondering

[fresh timber]

how tf do u crash

i was funan show the details

[hoary zodiac]

you could also try lowering the bitrate a bit

and then compare the results

[fresh timber]

no

i dont really care

i dont really mind the data usage

im recording to 1tb dedicated for recording

[hoary zodiac]

it's more like the radeon encoder's not that efficient but

alright

[fresh timber]

i tuned it to run at the bitrate that doesnt have the recording freeze randomly ¯_(ツ)_/¯

im using balanced preset not bitrate btw, its dynamic saves more space than recording lets say 60mbps constantly

but at burst it will do like 200mbps if theirs alot going on

[hoary zodiac]

I'm more curious about the the efficiency of the radeon hw encoder

[fresh timber]

mhh forgot mkv doesnt report this stuff

remux time

[pliant berry]

that is a lot of video bitrate for a computer recording

[hoary zodiac]

like how much processing power is going to waste for no returns

[fresh timber]

WHOOO remuxing

i wonder whts capping me to 600mbps

[hoary zodiac]

AV1 is lossy no?

[pliant berry]

oh uhhh I wouldn't record high bitrate with av1

[fresh timber]

according to microsoft gng

[hoary zodiac]

surely it's more efficient to record with lossless h265 and then transcode it to av1 for archive

you'd get better quality

[pliant berry]

av1 definitely has a point of diminishing returns

[fresh timber]

transcoding is fun

took me a long time to transcode 30GB recording

a310 would run laps around me

[hoary zodiac]

here's an idea

try h265 lossless

that'd probably increase the quality of your recording

[fresh timber]

more quality

av1 gotta do something for my ego, what to make it do

[runic jolt]

@pliant berry hi

[fresh timber]

twitch needs av1 support alr

[hoary zodiac]

you use av1 to compress the video after it's recorded

[fresh timber]

.. yeah imgood on that

[hoary zodiac]

for archive/upload

[fresh timber]

av1 takes me way to flippin long to transcode

[hoary zodiac]

you're not going to keep all of the files you use

[sweet phoenix]

pretty sure it was added at the beginning of 2024

[fresh timber]

wot

[sweet phoenix]

i could be wrong

[fresh timber]

also twitch enhanched broadcast sucks, it limits me to 480p

atleast on my end twitch only does h264 and cpu

i know youtube does av1

[hoary zodiac]

youtube still compresses it no?

[fresh timber]

not sure if they compress live streams

[hoary zodiac]

they should

[fresh timber]

i know they compress video on av1

[hoary zodiac]

they're not going to send all that data

[fresh timber]

twitch lets me do the compression and stuff for them

[hoary zodiac]

av1 at the moment is better for compression

unless you throw an absurd amount of processing power

[fresh timber]

it can do lower bitrate and higher quality

perfect for streaming

plz twitch, im tired of streaming 6000mbps 720p

[hoary zodiac]

maybe try lowering the bitrate

[fresh timber]

ill think abt it

[hoary zodiac]

if twich is going to cap you

you have no choice

[fresh timber]

o twitch

they only do 6000mbps h264

[hoary zodiac]

they're not going to want you to use up all that bandwidth

[fresh timber]

so its poop

[sweet phoenix]

https://blog.twitch.tv/en/2024/01/08/introducing-the-enhanced-broadcasting-beta/

[fresh timber]

bro i tried that

it does 480p max for me

[hoary zodiac]

I think you're just pushing through too much data

into the twitch network

[fresh timber]

im doing the limit

they wont let u push more than 6000

or whqt even the beta allows u

[hoary zodiac]

6000 at what resolution

[fresh timber]

i stream 6000 720p

[hoary zodiac]

what about a lower bitrate at 1080p?

or do they literally don't allow that

[fresh timber]

it would look bad

obs devs told me 720p is the best for the twitch bitrate

downscaling 1440p to 720p for bit

[wooden marten]

our society is devolving

Im glad to see the supreme court tackling the biggest issues

[hoary zodiac]

that is literally the definition of fraud

[fresh timber]

does twitch really not list its enhanced broadcast bitrate ;kek

[hoary zodiac]

wait

politics

oops

[fresh timber]

flip it, auto mode exist

[sturdy iris]

Hi

[hoary zodiac]

interesting username you got that

not sure the mods are going to like that

[wooden marten]

no ones starting a controversy over this

[sturdy iris]

Haha thanks

[dusk knot]

@sweet phoenix know any good 600w or less PSUs in white?

[fresh timber]

enhanced broadcast is poop

480p 30 🤮

[hoary zodiac]

480p 30 is good

on a phone screen

[fresh timber]

not a pc screen

[hoary zodiac]

that is the joke

[fresh timber]

720p 30 shines

[fresh timber]

ahh i get it now

how hard is for it for people to decode 6000mbps 720p

[hoary zodiac]

it's more that

[sweet phoenix]

check sama psus on newegg

[fresh timber]

partners have 8000mbps bitrate

[hoary zodiac]

twitch doesn't want to waste all that bandwidth

on random streamers

[fresh timber]

yeah but its about the people watching it

[hoary zodiac]

twitch is massive

[fresh timber]

peoeple transcode for a reason

[hoary zodiac]

they have to think about operating costs

[wooden marten]

massive?

[fresh timber]

enchanced broadcast is so you can transcode for twitch saving them processing power

[hoary zodiac]

twitch is also notorious for not favouring their streamers

[wooden marten]

you know what else is massive?

[slate fractal]

its actually a MASSIVE problem, and its not gonna FADE unless they do something about it

[wooden marten]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-fortnite-reaction-ninja-low-taper-fade-gif-1784137995500051652

[hoary zodiac]

what is massive

[fresh timber]

enchanced broadcast seems ot be for smaller streamers to transcode for their audicence who somehow have trouble with the 6000kbps max bitrate for some reason

[hoary zodiac]

I'm falling right into it but I'm curious

[fresh timber]

THIS LOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW TAPERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR FADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[hoary zodiac]

there is a reason streamers are moving to youtube

[fresh timber]

i tried youtube streamer, i got more engagment on twitch unfortuntly

[slate fractal]

LOWWW

TAAAPERRR

FAADDEEE

[hoary zodiac]

what is massive??????

[fresh timber]

bout to post on youtube, just gotta edit a few helllet lose funny moments toghter for like a 10min video and im done

[slate fractal]

a ford f150

[fresh timber]

funna make a streaming schedual too

[hoary zodiac]

child destroyer

[fresh timber]

chat when should i stream, im thinking every weekend for like 2 hours

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/hunter-x-hunter-gif-1385292026447264066

[fresh timber]

i should pickup a webcam 🤔

BOEING

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/ensemble-stars-enstars-hokuto-hidaka-gif-15785290885577198879

[fresh timber]

what webcam do i get

for cheap

[hoary zodiac]

define cheap

[fresh timber]

under $50

[hoary zodiac]

oh good luck

[fresh timber]

i dont need anything good

just capture my face and not look like complete poo

[hoary zodiac]

I was going to say this but

[fresh timber]

id be fine with quality like this

[hoary zodiac]

anything

literally anything

[fresh timber]

funna be small window anyways

[hoary zodiac]

they're all crap for that budget

in fact most webcams are really meh

when you're upgrading

[fresh timber]

funna do something like that

[sweet phoenix]

there's some decent 1080p webcames under $60

[hoary zodiac]

consider getting a used mirrorless camera

if you want professional quality

[fresh timber]

if i get more money im going for a real camera with a camlink and fake battery mod

[sweet phoenix]

especially when it's a small window like this

[fresh timber]

i finally got my lighting down

[hoary zodiac]

make sure you get a MIRRORLESS

not a DSLR

mirrorless is way better for recordings

[mortal grail]

Oh no dlss

[fresh timber]

my light bulbs get bright asf and my led strip get bright and lights up left side of my face

[fresh timber]

which

[mortal grail]

No step dlss what r u doing

[fresh timber]

dont poo over my girlfriends face

[mortal grail]

Oh is that not you

Oops lol

[hoary zodiac]

I'm saving that

[fresh timber]

no

my hair is not as pretty as her

im jealous of her hair

[hoary zodiac]

she looks like a he

[peak heart]

Her who

[hoary zodiac]

oh no

it's homelander

[fresh timber]

i wish i could cus you out right now

[fresh timber]

your not atrain calm down

[hoary zodiac]

get rule 2'd

[mortal grail]

In my defence I haven't even looked closely at the pic

[hoary zodiac]

same

[fresh timber]

in my defense its a bad photo

she banned me from using the other one i had

[peak heart]

Yall should be thanking christ

[nocturne flicker]

Some people are into that

[mortal grail]

Is this better

[nocturne flicker]

Don't shame

[mortal grail]

I felt this was more appropriate to the emoji usage

[peak heart]

Mfs after meat remedy

[nocturne flicker]

Eck, I just had 15 messages load in at once

[fresh timber]

my old webcam used to be my school chromebook and ninja webcam website, but the cam was too bad to even be worth using and it didnt fit in my desk

[nocturne flicker]

Discord mobile why

[fresh timber]

i used to use my phone but then people would text me

[hoary zodiac]

ok maybe we don't have sus convos

[dusk knot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b9zNpK well ig this will do

[fresh timber]

man i use too much ram

[hoary zodiac]

nah that's just windows

something something dynamic ram usage

[fresh timber]

my window it self uses 6gb ram

start opening things i get high

[hoary zodiac]

windows like to scale up and eat ram

[nocturne flicker]

Just use a clear ram script

[mortal grail]

That transformed but ig it's ok. I think the board sucks tho iirc

[fresh timber]

great thing i bought 32gb so idc

[hoary zodiac]

it doesn't affect performance that much

but it's annoying

to be fair 32GB is the standard now

[fresh timber]

its annoying when i fill up all 32gb trying to run servers on my pc for 0 reason

[hoary zodiac]

16GB is... fine?

[fresh timber]

16gb is fine

[hoary zodiac]

for lower end usages

[dusk knot]

i can not find any other moherboard unless I go straight to MC

[peak heart]

Remove one stick

[fresh timber]

my friends still use 16gb on their gaming rigs

perfectly fine for game, web and discord

[hoary zodiac]

it's just fine

but not ideal these days

[fresh timber]

yeah i said fine

depends on what u play

[hoary zodiac]

Far Cry 5 could scale above 16GB on 1440P ultra

[fresh timber]

my friends play rivals and fortnite so they dont really care

[hoary zodiac]

fair

[fresh timber]

if your the type to play 1440p maxed settings aaa titles, yeah too little

[hoary zodiac]

well

even AAA from 2020 can scale up above 16GB

[fresh timber]

or modded minecraft

[hoary zodiac]

but it wasn't too much of an issue back then

[fresh timber]

holy flip id be using 32/32gb ram on modded mc

[nocturne flicker]

Need 32gb for AAA game from 2008, hold up guys

[fresh timber]

32gb was NOt enough

[hoary zodiac]

the overhead is more neccesary now

[misty sparrow]

-# to be fair whos gonna be playing modern Ubisoft games in 2025

[hoary zodiac]

far cry 5 isn't modern

wait

2018???

[misty sparrow]

yeah it is

[hoary zodiac]

jesus

that's OLD

[misty sparrow]

fairly modern for Ubisoft

[fresh timber]

the 2nd ubisoft game i like

[misty sparrow]

thats like

[hoary zodiac]

well I mean

[misty sparrow]

it released during the time when ubisoft was bad

[hoary zodiac]

It'd actually run decently on a modern pc

[misty sparrow]

and still is bad

[hoary zodiac]

so it doesn't fit the requirement of "runs like utter dogcrap"

[fresh timber]

shall be this the webcam i get chat

also overnight shipping damn

[nocturne flicker]

Ubisoft has always been bad. We just hadn't gotten tired with their spammed formulas yet

[fresh timber]

only thing that pisses me off about their games is the 60fps lock

but i got over it

[pliant berry]

god sometimes I hate usb c

[worn wave]

What are you using it for

[fresh timber]

nothing in my gaming setup uses usbc

[fresh timber]

streaming

online meetings maybe

mostly streaming

[mortal grail]

I'm wrong I was thinking of another prime

Looks fine

He won't need anything else for 10 years lmao

[worn wave]

Idk about streaming but for stuff like Zoom and discord the bandwidth is so low that webcam doesn't matter much lol

[dusk knot]

hmmm

[mortal grail]

Extremely dumb overkill but it's what he wants

[hoary zodiac]

amazon reviews

meh

[nocturne flicker]

As someone who didn't play the OG Assassin's Creeds when they were still relevant, you can plainly see that they were just the same game copy and pasted with a new mechanic or two and better graphics

[fresh timber]

for straming its perfectly fine

i get 5 viewers max

if i start getting more ill invest in mirrorless

[mortal grail]

Wait wtf the pic is different

[hoary zodiac]

I'd only get a mirrorless if you get a couple thousand or tens of thousands

[mortal grail]

Oh

[fresh timber]

id do it when it makes me money

[mortal grail]

WHOA

Wtffff

[velvet summit]

oh hey we've past the 12 million mark

[mortal grail]

The prime has two versions

The new one sucks

[hoary zodiac]

that's a good idea

[mortal grail]

@dusk knot nvm asus lied to me

[hoary zodiac]

you'd be able to find better models for cheaper by then

[fresh timber]

theirs streamers who aveage 100 viewers on tiktok and they be getting enough to quit their jobs and stuff, decent house., amazing setup, spoils the wife

all from being sponosred on twitch

[dusk knot]

so do you believe this mobo can take a 12700k?

[hoary zodiac]

a mirorless camera also doubles as a video camera

for vlogs

great investment if you make a profit from streaming

[fresh timber]

tbh id prob get a camera with a gimble

[fresh nova]

Hmm

[fresh timber]

i do wanna do irl streaming

after highschool

[fresh nova]

Maybe I should flip my PC back horazontal

[nocturne flicker]

What is irl streaming

[fresh timber]

i just gotta figure out the internet, how ima stream, and how ima control the scenes and such

[velvet summit]

dlsr can do video as well
just not as ideal

[nocturne flicker]

Are you simulating streaming

[hoary zodiac]

DSLR is

ehhhhh

[fresh timber]

go outside, turn camera on, walk around

[hoary zodiac]

the video quality is not that good

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-cat-cute-birthday-cake-second-birthday-gif-17210152400907695880

@sage sluice

[pliant berry]

gimbals are actually pretty cheap nowadays

[hoary zodiac]

lower end mirrorless cameras can be found for a reasonable price

[velvet summit]

gimballs

[fresh timber]

ill prob get a good hotspot, and a nice iphone or something, and mic that clips onto my shirt and call it a day

[hoary zodiac]

yeah just make sure you get one that can support the weight of the camera and won't fall apart

[fresh nova]

Guys it's our boi Balou birthday let's give this man the song of birthday's.

[pliant berry]

yeah

[hoary zodiac]

mirrorless also helps with that since DSLRS are heavy and bulky

[nocturne flicker]

You mean vlogging then

[hoary zodiac]

at least the ones worth getting are

[dusk knot]

@mortal grail https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D54QJ9CJ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

[mortal grail]

Not at all

[pliant berry]

also why do people spell it as gimble?

[hoary zodiac]

it's spelled gimbal no?

[fresh timber]

my goal is to have the gimble be able to be hand held and mount to an eletric bike

[sweet phoenix]

riptide wifi

[mortal grail]

I especially don't trust these. All versions I've seen have even worse quality than primes

[fresh timber]

no irl streaming is what they call it

[velvet summit]

f it we ball

[dusk knot]

SIGH.........

[pliant berry]

it is definitely supposed to be gimbal but I have even run into some photo/video people that spell it wrong

[hoary zodiac]

probably the same reason y'all write color instead of colour (the correct spelling)

[velvet summit]

real

[hoary zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/united-kingdom-united-kingdom-flag-flag-waving-gif-26877309

[velvet summit]

also i dont think i;ve ever seen gimble

[hoary zodiac]

that's the beauty of the english language

[pliant berry]

RIGHT, I feel like I am the only one spelling it as gimbal. don't make me go crazy man

[hoary zodiac]

you can figure out spellings with just phonetics

[pliant berry]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-facepalm-table-upset-mad-gif-24677138

[hoary zodiac]

but like a game of chinese whispers

[fresh timber]

my dad asked me for a laptop and camera for $1000 budget, i dont even know where to start lmfao, i just said, u can buy my extra pc for $500 and ill find u a used camera

[hoary zodiac]

some people have a different understanding of the english language

so you end up with misspellings

[velvet summit]

looking at wikipedia

it doesnt say any alternative spellings

[fresh timber]

im just stupid

[velvet summit]

in conclusion gimble isnt real

[hoary zodiac]

do you want a grammar checker

[dusk knot]

I need a fully functional front I/O....

[fresh timber]

corsair

[fresh timber]

no

[hoary zodiac]

yes?

ok

[fresh timber]

corsair

:0

the bot replys

[velvet summit]

laptop AND camera? that's crazy for 1k

[fresh timber]

he wants to EDIT on the laptop so its even worst

[hoary zodiac]

what type of camera?

[nocturne flicker]

Like Aluminium

[hoary zodiac]

video camera?

[fresh timber]

YES

he wants to vlog

[hoary zodiac]

ALUMINIUM IS THE CORRECT SPELLING

[velvet summit]

you can get a laptop for 1k

[nocturne flicker]

Not according to the guy who named it

[hoary zodiac]

endorsed by the EU

[velvet summit]

you can get a camera for 1k

[fresh timber]

i told bro straight up, you need more

[velvet summit]

[fresh timber]

ur either getting a good laptop and bad camera, or bad camera and good laptop

[hoary zodiac]

you can get a used DSLR for way less than 1K

not DSLR

mirrorless

[velvet summit]

true

[hoary zodiac]

It's possible for 1K

[fresh timber]

how many suport camlink and let you remove the battery

[velvet summit]

but you still need lenses

[nocturne flicker]

He named it aluminum to match with the spelling of platinum but some other scholars said that is too low class and changed it to aluminium

[hoary zodiac]

laptop will have to compromise a bit

[hoary zodiac]

like all of them?

[fresh timber]

i told bro, just send me the footage

my pc can edit it

[hoary zodiac]

I'd be surprised if a mirrorless doesn't let you remove the battery

[fresh timber]

mhhh

if i got mirrorless for pc cam id remove batetry and power it off my pcs usb then camlink that mf

[hoary zodiac]

you can

people use DSLRs and Mirrorless as webcams like that

[fresh timber]

peak

i swore some brand had camera where u needed a fake one

[hoary zodiac]

you can get mirrorless cameras for fairly reasonable prices

[hoary zodiac]

eh don't

they have crappy sensors

[velvet summit]

why would you pay for a camlink when you could like
grab practically any other capture card for like half the price

[hoary zodiac]

not much better than webcams

[fresh timber]

l

[heady nacelle]

Ello my budget is kinda tight but im trying to build my first pc, should i buy the AMD Ryzen 5 5500 3.6 GHz 19MB or the AMD Ryzen 5 5500GT 3.6 GHz 19MB???

[fresh timber]

i swore it was sony or something

[hoary zodiac]

budget?

we'll give you a parts list

[fresh timber]

do u need hte igpu

[fresh timber]

all the pros use it thats why

[velvet summit]

"the pros"

[fresh timber]

if im making money off this id want good stuff

[hoary zodiac]

"the pros"

[velvet summit]

the pros use SDI

[hoary zodiac]

that capture card

is cheap plastic crap appealing to "gamers"

[nocturne flicker]

To think, we could live in the reality in which Humphry Davy chose to name it Alumium

[velvet summit]

use blackmagic design if you want what the pros use lol

[heady nacelle]

Ohh my budget is MAX 700 euro, including operating system and 32gb ram

[hoary zodiac]

what country?

[heady nacelle]

Sweden

[nocturne flicker]

Then we'd be fighting over alumium and aluminium

[fresh timber]

i love ikea

[heady nacelle]

Its the best

[hoary zodiac]

budget in swedish krona?

[heady nacelle]

7000kr

[cursive oasis]

does anyone here with an AMD GPU own Helldivers 2? If so, have they improved the experience with having an AMD GPU? I remember owning the game about a year ago and it would crash a lot on my computer. I have an AMD Radeon 7800 XT if that helps

[pliant berry]

bruh how can anyone afford to record this, it takes up 10GB/per min

[fresh timber]

i know people with 300TB+ worth of storage

so alot

[heady nacelle]

Wow

[fresh timber]

go to r/homelab

people casualy with petabyte worth of storage

[pliant berry]

with the storage to record it costs like 70usd per 10 minutes or something

[hoary zodiac]

7K krona max right?

not flexible?

[fresh timber]

wheer are you getting ur hdds

[heady nacelle]

Can be a bit over but not much

[hoary zodiac]

yeah ok

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/J7zNpK

[fresh timber]

6-7% per tb is the best value u can reasonably get

[hoary zodiac]

this is a VERY rough first draft

will shrink the budget

would you consider getting a used graphics card?

[heady nacelle]

Ill check

[fresh timber]

so if ur recording at 10gb per min and have a 12tb hdd worth $84 you would be spending lets see

[hoary zodiac]

https://se.pcpartpicker.com/list/yxXvRV

[fresh timber]

im not good at math

[hoary zodiac]

this does meet the budget

[hoary zodiac]

you have to find the instantneous rate of change

[heady nacelle]

Ok

[fresh timber]

i just know its not the number he said using homelab numbers

[velvet summit]

i assume this is the cost of the storage for drive on the camera???

[fresh timber]

i ❤️ recertified drives

[fresh timber]

o, id didnt think about this

it looks like an iphone

[velvet summit]

ghosty does professional photography

[fresh timber]

woudlnt you just dump your phone or external drive to your nas anyways after recording

[hoary zodiac]

a pc has a power curve of y = e^3x , where y = $10 and x = watt, what's the rate of change when x = 500w

[fresh timber]

then your backup

@pliant berry what do u do

u make money off this

[hoary zodiac]

ehhh

[velvet summit]

i mean, you could, but you'll also need several memory cards for each shoot at that rate

[pliant berry]

it's too high bitrate for hdd you need at least sata with consistent writes of 400MB/s or something

[velvet summit]

[sage sluice]

Still waiting on my birthday song

[heady nacelle]

Why does it say some part are or may not be compatible

[sage sluice]

[fresh timber]

if you put them into raid with multiply you can reach that speed

[hoary zodiac]

oh mb

[heady nacelle]

@hoary zodiac

[hoary zodiac]

lemme check if it has flashback

[fresh timber]

which you should if u wanna keep your data safe along with backups

[hoary zodiac]

ok it has bios flashback

you can flash it with a usb stick

[velvet summit]

multiply??? you mean striping lmao?

[pliant berry]

some formats don't support internal recording. this is true for phones and some cameras even

[fresh timber]

depends on the raid config, some stripe, some mirror, some do both

[fresh timber]

pro res right?

[heady nacelle]

Heh? Talk English? Im new to this 😅

[hoary zodiac]

basically

[velvet summit]

mirroring only helps with read speeds and not write

[pliant berry]

ye

[fresh timber]

i see people pluggin those fancy usbc drives to their iphones

[fresh timber]

something like raid 10 is stripped and mirrored irrc

[hoary zodiac]

bios flashback is a feature that allows you to flash the bios with a usb stick

without a cpu

imagine using raid instead of zfs

🥱

[pliant berry]

someone told me last minute they needed prores so I borrowed my cameras cfexpress card to record to but it was only able to hold like 9 minutes of footage

[fresh timber]

zfs on top

[velvet summit]

well, technically raid 10 is 2 raids, raid 1, mirroring, and raid 0, striping

[fresh timber]

yup

thats where the 10 comes from

[heady nacelle]

Im not coming along🫣🥲

[hoary zodiac]

oh sorry

that's a different conversation

[heady nacelle]

What is zfs?

[fresh timber]

where geeking out over storage stuff right now

[heady nacelle]

Ahh

[hoary zodiac]

would you mind moving to #building-and-recc-chat

[pliant berry]

zfs is epic

[hoary zodiac]

It'll get confusing with 2 conversations at the same time

[fresh timber]

its a enterprise file system that banks on never trusting the hardware its connected too

[hoary zodiac]

It's more than a file system

it's also a volume manager

[fresh timber]

but they gave it to us normies

so we happy ❤️

[velvet summit]

tbh i never trust the hardware my brain is attached to as well

[fresh timber]

frfr

[velvet summit]

why finger move

[fresh timber]

thats why zfs rules

it doesnt even trust its own computer its running on

you could randomly cut power and your data is prob okay with zfs so nice

also have backups just incase it doesnt

ALWAYS HAVE BACKUPS GHOSTY ALWAYS

[hoary zodiac]

not just a backup

3-2-1 backup procedure

[fresh timber]

3, 2 1

yup

[pliant berry]

https://i.imgur.com/0twNsUM.png

[fresh timber]

The 3-2-1 Backup Strategy
3 - Copies of important data; backed up to at least,
2 - different storage mediums,
1 - of which is off-site.

[velvet summit]

in the homelab, straight up forking it
and by it, i mean... my repos

[pliant berry]

I also have an encrypted backup of this to backblaze

[fresh timber]

ghosty knows is s word

rn i dont have backups or raid until i buy a HBA and these cheap ahh hdds i found

[nocturne flicker]

3(e^1500)/10

[hoary zodiac]

pog

[pliant berry]

I thought about adding a cache drive but idk. might make more sense to upgrade the network first

[hoary zodiac]

ram cache

[fresh timber]

what config u runnin? gigabit? meme gig? 2.5gig 10gig?

[nocturne flicker]

Is that right? I had to dig through my brain to find the calculus

[hoary zodiac]

hold up

[pliant berry]

gigabit, but the NAS is on a 3 port aggregation to keep up with multiple clients

[fresh timber]

let me put you on, https://www.fs.com/products/11552.html?now_cid=1113 https://mikrotik.com/product/crs312_4c_8xg_rm

dont buy that switch, i ment to send the site

[pliant berry]

actually I thought about getting a sfp interface since I have 2 10gig ports free on my router

[hoary zodiac]

d/dx e^3x = 3e^3x
y = 3e^3(500)

wait

[fresh timber]

when u need transcivers get them from fs.com and make sure they line up with the vender you use

[hoary zodiac]

I think my math is stupid

I think I phrased the question really poorly

[fresh timber]

mikrotik accepts all recivers, cisco only cisco, intel only intel, ect

[nocturne flicker]

It was a little

[hoary zodiac]

yeah crappy math question

[pliant berry]

I should probably read up about that stuff first, I'm not too familiar with the interface

[hoary zodiac]

😦

[nocturne flicker]

I had to assume that x could be used as a stand in but y had to be changed to 10

[pliant berry]

but I have heard of those limitations

[nocturne flicker]

So I didn't have dy

[hoary zodiac]

yeah ignore that y = 10 part

crappy question

[fresh timber]

sfp+ is really what you want for 10gig, 10gig base t unironicly cost more

[hoary zodiac]

I'm rusty

[pliant berry]

yeah I meant to say sfp+

[fresh timber]

and 10gbase-t is worst more unstable, and gets hotter

[nocturne flicker]

Wait a minute

[velvet summit]

i hate that my isp router only has 10gbaset

the i have a 10gbaset transcever to change it back to sfp+

[fresh timber]

run 10gbase-t from router to your switch

sfp+ to rj45 exist

[velvet summit]

yeah that's what i have

[fresh timber]

when my mom buys a house im prob going to run fiber to every room and have a tiny adapte or somethign to convert to rj45 for the devices that need it

if not every room, just my room

funna run homelab in basment

[velvet summit]

cheapest one i found was 10gtek rj45 10gbaset to sfp+ module and it works well enough
honestly only needed 2.5g speeds though lmao since i dont have any hardware that can handle more than 2.5g

[fresh timber]

meme gig

ew

unironicly 10gig cost less than 2.5gig unless ur motherboard alr has it

[pliant berry]

just don't let your parents see the electric bill

[velvet summit]

isp provides 3gb speeds so i dont want to splurge on 10g networking stuff

5g networking is too rare

and 2.5g is under the speed

ended up just getting 2.5 since that was common enough to be still cheap

[nocturne flicker]

I forgot that taking a derivative creates a dx, I was doing weird stuff, so it'd be 3e^3x and the y=10 is useless and then the answer would be 3e^1500 which is basically a uselessly large number

[fresh timber]

man ima just run a switch, to connect to the router to all the internet boxes, a router, and maybe a home mad ryzen server

[velvet summit]

not like i actually need more than 2.5g at home

[fresh timber]

yes mom we need 10gig to your laptop

*i will wire the aps up for 10gig if i can afford it

[wraith fern]

i get 1g and call it a day

[weak cedar]

Solar power and wind

[wraith fern]

i dont think we have fiber optic yet though

buhh

[fresh timber]

if she let me i totaly would

[velvet summit]

just live somewhere with dirt cheap power

[fresh timber]

out here its 14ckwh

[velvet summit]

i leave my pc on 24/7 with only like a $3 increase on the bill

[fresh timber]

yeah

[velvet summit]

per month

[fresh timber]

we have eletric heating

+50 a month 😢

[velvet summit]

electric heating kinda crazy tbh

[fresh timber]

no ac in my room so its painful in the summer

[pliant berry]

https://youtu.be/5eseHTwEKnQ?t=7

[velvet summit]

sure, it's 100% efficent

[fresh timber]

appartment man

[velvet summit]

oh, less crazy in apartments

it's crazy in detached homes though

[weak cedar]

My dad wants to go wood burning instead of gas

[velvet summit]

too much heat loss

[fresh timber]

rn its cheaper for me to turn my heat off and have my pc and server run

[hoary zodiac]

x265 transcode go brr

[velvet summit]

i remember people running crypto farms and actually earning money to heat the house from the profits

[pliant berry]

wood burning can actually be really nice, but not when you run out of wood when everyone sleeping

[fresh timber]

[nocturne flicker]

My electric bill went up 30% with half the home not having heating on

[hoary zodiac]

x265 is blazing fast on a ryzen

[fresh timber]

dont wake up

[weak cedar]

We live by forest but as I can see it, bye bye forest

[fresh timber]

if my mom gets a house ima be pissed if i dont get ethernet

[velvet summit]

wood fireplace is far superior to a gas fireplace though

[nocturne flicker]

Also the gas bill tripled

We have both electric and gas

[fresh timber]

i am NOT going back to wifi

mostlikley a coax isp so please coax in my room to use moca

[fresh timber]

same, but its protected 😦 nothing stopping me from chopping up the fallen trees

[weak cedar]

We have like a south setup with both like it's eletric but gas kicks on if the eletric can't keep up

It's something I guess you see more in south states do

[velvet summit]

blame the beavers

[weak cedar]

Our area killed them all in or around 1900s

[fresh timber]

im hungry

what do i eat

samwich or nothing

[velvet summit]

"what do i eat"
gives one option that satiates

eat a bowl of cereal or smth

[nocturne flicker]

We have a heat pump and then gas. An air heat pump so it is bleh below freezing

[velvet summit]

i mean

[fresh timber]

lol

im lazy

omg im making ramen

brb

[velvet summit]

they tend to work up to like -20 or smth

slowly decreasing in efficiency

[nocturne flicker]

Ours doesn't, it struggles. I assume because the people who put it in were boneheads and didn't know what they were doing

Afterall, the AC does cause flooding in the basement when not drained

[fresh timber]

Good

Food

[nocturne flicker]

Also the AC blows out a circuit if ran enough

[unreal trail]

too much on one breaker

[full shoal]

@dusk knot

The 5090 is out

[velvet summit]

no way

[dusk knot]

Huh?

[nocturne flicker]

No I mean a circuit on the heat pump literally goes

[hoary zodiac]

https://youtu.be/lyliMCnrANI

[velvet summit]

WHAT

wait, in cooling mode? or heating mode

cooling mode could either mean the drainpan is clogged

or the drainpipe is clogged

which can happen when a spider decides to build a nest in the hose

[nocturne flicker]

In cooling mode. We checked the drainpan, it was wasn't clogged the last time it happened

[pliant berry]

what the hell did I just watch

[nocturne flicker]

They just set the drainpan up incorrectly so it doesn't...drain

[shut crystal]

I’ve heard a lot of EBay scammers and scalpers making things overpriced and what’s delivered to the buyer isn’t what was depicted in the picture

So I’m never gonna buy a single Computer component from Ebay

I don’t think you can trust eBay sellers at all

[velvet summit]

what mars feels like

[hoary zodiac]

Ebay has pretty strong buyer protection

You just have to be careful

Like on every other platform

Amazon is full of scams too

They don't vet them

[velvet summit]

you dont even have to be careful per se
just dont be dumb

[fresh timber]

If the seller is named jsfjvotoeovivotojehxcir don’t buy from them

[shut crystal]

Well how come these eBay sellers still get away with this then?

[velvet summit]

the scammers like 8 times out of 10 are blatently obvious when you know where to look

[shut crystal]

Plus if you buy an item and it’s a scam most eBay sellers won’t let you return it so you’ll probably be screwed

[hoary zodiac]

?

[fresh timber]

If you see a 4090 for $500 it’s broken or a scam

[shut crystal]

Don’t be so naive about eBay its a website that’s full of lies

[fresh timber]

Use common sense

[hoary zodiac]

Ebay has money back guarantee

[fresh timber]

Yup

You must receive Excatly what you ordered

[north crescent]

mgs-1

[velvet summit]

i sell things occasionally myself on ebay lmao

[hoary zodiac]

In fact you can be screwed over by buyers

[shut crystal]

How are you supposed to return the item if the seller on eBay doesn’t let you?

[hoary zodiac]

You don't

You get your money back

[fresh timber]

And you keep it

lol

[hoary zodiac]

That's how you get scammed as a seller

[fresh timber]

some sellers will accept returns

u know, the ones who ar erepetable and such

[hoary zodiac]

it's easier to be scammed as a seller than as a buyer

[shut crystal]

Yeah this was just about the 5090 that’s coming

[fresh timber]

stop giving me ideas with my low morals

[hoary zodiac]

I'm not

[shut crystal]

I’m definitely gonna wait to buy it from an actual company or a more official website like Amazon

[velvet summit]

why are you thinking of buying the 5090 on ebay when it's not even out yet

ebay is mainly used for scalped or used stuff,

[pliant berry]

that also isn't specific to ebay. there are scammers trying to pull things like that on literally every marketplace (amazon in particular)

[fresh timber]

if u buy a ebay 5090 its going to be like $4000 cause scalp

[hoary zodiac]

Yeah you are knowingly paying for a scam

[velvet summit]

if you're buying new then it's 100% scalped

[hoary zodiac]

Or scalped

[shut crystal]

And that’s another reason this is probably a scam

[fresh timber]

amazon scammed makes no sense to me o no u scammed me gets money back

[velvet summit]

i dont think anybody with half a brain is going on ebay to buy current gen new hardware

bruh

[fresh timber]

yeah

buy the 4090s people throw out for the 5090

[velvet summit]

people are going on ebay to buy like a 2080 or some crap like that

lol

[hoary zodiac]

I'd buy retail for gpus

Where I get a warranty

[fresh timber]

u can get a reall good used deal for like an 7900xtx and 4080s

[shut crystal]

Yeah well some people might be highly gullible so probably should warn them anyway so they know

[hoary zodiac]

7900xtx is not 5090 level

[fresh timber]

the used prices on xtx dont look too hot right now

[hoary zodiac]

Natural selection

[velvet summit]

nobody in chat currently is that gullible at the very least

unless that person is you

💀

[dusk knot]

Heh

[shut crystal]

Yeah but I’m posting on Reddit and I’m gonna go around warning others

[shut crystal]

Also why would it be me? I’m the one literally mentioning the 5090 being shown on eBay is most likely a scam

[fresh timber]

look on facebook market place and see if u can test the gpu live

[hoary zodiac]

There's scam external drives on amazon everywhere

If you search "4tb drive"

[fresh timber]

$10 for 5tb plz

[velvet summit]

honestly it makes more sense to post your warning on a forum rather than a text chat, because people are gonna talk and the psa would just be drowned out lmao

[fresh timber]

besides overpriced hdds top results arnt

[velvet summit]

posting on a chat like here is a bit of wasted effort

[hoary zodiac]

Seagate

[fresh timber]

o yeahh

[hoary zodiac]

🤮

[fresh timber]

ur waiting for ur hdd to fail

i need to replace the seagate in my nas

[hoary zodiac]

why does the barracuda cost as much as the ironwolf

[fresh timber]

both overpriced

buy used recert sas drive for less