fair onyx
2 silk dome tweeters, 5 3 inch mid drivers, 4 6 inch woofers with low extension, and 1 700 watt 10 inch ported high excursion sub
Her car even without the sub can hit down to 30hz and below. That stock sound system in that mustang is absolutely mental 😅
misty sparrow
-# what is this terminology
unreal chasm
just played this on accident on my computer speakers scared the f outta me and might have woken some people up lmao
random osprey
i too like to listen to alicia keys
fair onyx
just played this on accident on my computer speakers scared the f outta me and m...
love that <3 lmfao
unreal chasm
love that <3 lmfao
I have a 12inch sub hooked to my pc 🤦🏻♂️
fair onyx
I have a 12inch sub hooked to my pc 🤦🏻♂️
delicious
misty sparrow
I don’t know anything about audio but I do want some new audio equipment that works
fair onyx
lmao
misty sparrow
I even asked a question about it a few weeks ago here I think
velvet summit
Custom molded eartips would prevent that issue, but they cost as much as a pair of iems
Maybe even multiple pairs if you have cheaper iems
fair onyx
I don’t know anything about audio but I do want some new audio equipment that wo...
what terminology did I use that you don't know? I will gladly explain and share what I know
random osprey
mom and I are extreme bass heads 😅
whatever genre this fits into is what i listen to when chillin at my computer
unreal chasm
mom and I are extreme bass heads 😅
you may fancy my idea for my single cab truck
Im doing 2 8in subs facing in at eachother with a custom center console with an inverted 12 the magnet would be in the middle of the 2 8s
fair onyx
We like bass with balance. Not bloated, fat or muddy bass. That sounds terrible. I spent a lot of time making sure her car would sound extremely bassy without the other parts being overpowered
unreal chasm
It has a dual pane sliding back glass which makes my entire truck a sub box in itself
fair onyx
ok, thats dope haha
misty sparrow
what terminology did I use that you don't know? I will gladly explain and share ...
What’s:
A driver?
An excursion sub?
What does 7.5 mean and what value is it?
What does sound have to do with watts and hertz?
fair onyx
Moms sub can go way louder, if I were to open a port from the trunk to the back seat. We could likely gain at least 3-6db, but her car is soooo well balanced
unreal chasm
We like bass with balance. Not bloated, fat or muddy bass. That sounds terrible....
okay now with this being said it makes my idea sound bad, however I fully agree with you I just want to shove some ridiculous bump in my single cab
hoary zodiac
Custom molded eartips would prevent that issue, but they cost as much as a pair ...
Wouldn't that be the same as a good pair of noise cancelling headphones?
With a tight seal
Those overrated Sonys or something
Or sennies
unreal chasm
I plan on having a switch for the inverted 12 on a seperate amp cause I would have it off for the most part
and the 2 8s are probably gonna be about 400w rms each
velvet summit
What’s:
A driver?
An excursion sub?
What does 7.5 mean and what value is it?
Wh...
Drivers are what make sounds
Tbh I'm not sure about the excursion sub
I assume you mean like 5.1 or 7.1 setups, which means 7 or 5 speakers and one subwoofer
Watts is how much power the driver uses, Hertz is the frequency
velvet summit
Wouldn't that be the same as a good pair of noise cancelling headphones?
Not really? It's more noise isolation than noise cancelling lol
The main benefit of custom molded eartips is that they fit your ear perfectly, so you have a good seal, the iems won't fall out easily, and there's no abnormal pressure on your ear canal so they don't make your ear sore
misty sparrow
I did have a bunch more but didn’t want to flood chat with questions
unreal chasm
I used to have a 4 door dodge dakota which had a kenwood excelon single din, 4 apline type s door speakers I did only do coaxials besides the point, they were on a kenwood excelon 4 channel amp with 2 sundown SML-10s behind the backseat on a Rockford Fosgate 1200w RMS @1Ohm mono amp that dynoed 1446W RMS
fair onyx
What’s:
A driver?
An excursion sub?
What does 7.5 mean and what value is it?
Wh...
A driver is the speaker. The cone that makes sound is the "driver"
A high excursion sub means the speaker has a lot of movement. You can have a big speaker that can't move much. The size of the speaker matters way less than the amount of air it can move. A high excursion sub in this case means it has a ton of forwards and backwards movement, and thus can move more air (which makes hitting lower notes easier)
7.5 means the array of speakers. You have your main speakers.sub speakers
That means we have 7 higher range speakers, and 5 sub woofers, which hit the lower notes. Usually you would have 5.1 for 5 speakers with 1 sub, like for home theater
Watts are how much power a speaker can draw/handle. If you have a speaker that is the same size, but can handle more power, you can get more sound/pressure from them. In this case, going from a 350 watt sub to a 700 watt sub means that we are getting considerably more sound pressure (bass) out of the speaker, even though its the same size
Hertz relates to the frequency response of the speaker. The lower the note the speaker can hit, the more bass reflex you have. For example, a normal car system can usually go down to about 60hz, but it will have no presence below that. My moms sound system without a dedicated sub woofer can already hit down to low 30hz, meaning it has plenty of lower range bass even without a sub
unreal chasm
I used to have a 4 door dodge dakota which had a kenwood excelon single din, 4 a...
That was as nice as I could afford and it was my first time doing a system, will for sure do things different this time around
fair onyx
@misty sparrowIf you have any more questions, I would gladly explain. I think audio is super dope
velvet summit
I did have a bunch more but didn’t want to flood chat with questions
You can put all your questions into #electronics or #peripherals-and-displays or such tbh
unreal chasm
Let me also say I probably wont do the inverted 12 at all as I like my center console
so just 2 inward facing high excursion 8s
2 component speakers sets on an amp with a new head unit
Ive never messed with the stand alone equalizers
fair onyx
@misty sparrowYou can see excursion here. This first speaker doesn't move too far, while the second one can move extremely far. That means it can generate more sound in the same space
unreal chasm
I mostly understand how the EQs work however when I tinker with them I make things worse so I tend to leave it flat
velvet summit
A driver is the speaker. The cone that makes sound is the "driver"
A high excur...
I would like to note though that the watts rating on a speaker is not proportional to how loud it is
It's just simply how much power it could use, but how loud it can get depends on it's sensitivity, a higher sensitivity means that less watts are required for more loudness
misty sparrow
I’d imagine something like this would possibly destroy the world then
fair onyx
so just 2 inward facing high excursion 8s
Nice! Are they gonna be in phase or 180 degrees off phase?
velvet summit
I’d imagine something like this would possibly destroy the world then
Me when I discover the resonant frequency of the earth
unreal chasm
Well theyre not gonna be inverted by inward I mean they are gonna face eachother
fair onyx
I would like to note though that the watts rating on a speaker is not proportion...
I was more so just trying to give a general explanation without getting into the more technical stuff 😅
unreal chasm
so in phase
fair onyx
ok, so they have the same positive and negative configuration?
You're going for a positive cone to cone pressure instead of a push pull config?
misty sparrow
-# Cone?
fair onyx
driver
velvet summit
I was more so just trying to give a general explanation without getting into the...
Tbh I think it's an important distinction to make, since many speaker manufacturers are trying to market their speakers as "wow look at our high wattage rating, this means our speakers are great and can get super loud" or whatever
fair onyx
this part is the cone
velvet summit
As a marketing tactic
unreal chasm
sum like that
misty sparrow
this part is the cone
Is that the springy rubbery part of the speaker?
fair onyx
ohhhhhh, ok, so just two subs, not connected subs, ok
unreal chasm
yes yes
fair onyx
Is that the springy rubbery part of the speaker?
that part is called the surround
velvet summit
Is that the springy rubbery part of the speaker?
Yes, that's what keeps the cone aligned and the air pressure in
fair onyx
I thought you were doing that thing. I always forget the name
misty sparrow
what thing
unreal chasm
bridging them?
fair onyx
here
fair onyx
bridging them?
just a sec
its when you stack two subs touching for higher air suspension. It increases reflex
I always forget the damn name. Its super niche
unreal chasm
You're going for a positive cone to cone pressure instead of a push pull config?
I know a decent amount aboud car audio however you lost me here
ohh
you mean like
one in phase one 180 phase
fair onyx
I am trying to find a pic
unreal chasm
so one inverted with one set in the box
fair onyx
one in phase one 180 phase
you can do them in phase, or out of phase. In phase means they will create a spring action on each other that increases their air pressure. Out of phase means they have less resistance and more excursion
velvet summit
Many older speakers have foam speaker rings (aka compliances) which have hardened and may be cracking, so if you have some old speakers that sound like crap or keep overloading your amp, you may want to look at it, and if it is broken or crispy, you may want to replace it
unreal chasm
I figured you wouldnt want them in the same phase no?
fair onyx
damn it, why can't I find a picture 😭
velvet summit
Either with a new foam ring or change to silicone or rubber or whatever
fair onyx
I figured you wouldnt want them in the same phase no?
typically in phase is better for reflex, out of phase is better for LOUD
here, this is how it works
velvet summit
I did that with my old ass speakers since the foam like, disappeared lmfao
fair onyx
with them in phase, they cancle out each others motion, which makes it harder for them to move. That means you can put more power through them without them bottoming out, and they will reflex and reset faster and tighter
Out of phase means they can both move more with less power. You can use less power across two subs and get more "boom", but way less tightness
unreal chasm
fair onyx
YES
did you see what its called?
I can never remember the damn name
there are ones where they touch
Dual opposing sub!
I found it!
unreal chasm
doesnt say
fair onyx
You can do them like this
fair onyx
so, if you have them in phase. Let me draw it
fair onyx
unreal chasm
put 2 subs together???
unreal chasm
what da fug ive never seen no shyt like this
fair onyx
if they both move in the same way, that decreases the spring on the boxed one, which allows it to move more with less power. This can make them way more Boomy
unreal chasm
Im too zooted for all this revolutionary info bro
fair onyx
but if you do it this way, they increase each others pressure, which adds more spring and makes them reset faster. This makes them way more punchy
unreal chasm
I already have 18 tabs open on google I dont need more😂
fair onyx
so when they push into each other, they have higher pressure stopping them from moving, which makes them reset faster. So if you want really tight and punchy bass, make them fight each other. If you want louder and boomier bass, make them move in the same direction
I hope what I am saying makes sense
unreal chasm
it does but my brain doesnt retain the info lol
fair onyx
you can even do a quad system
behold
this is a push pull push push. I have no idea how this even works, and I will not pretend to know lmao
unreal chasm
theres no way somones actually done some shi like this
velvet summit
No way?
velvet summit
There's always somebody bored enough to try random stuff
unreal chasm
so when they push into each other, they have higher pressure stopping them from ...
on one side Imma have them both in phase on the other side one will be out of phase so I get both🤓
fair onyx
on one side Imma have them both in phase on the other side one will be out of ph...
honestly... Yes, actually
I just looked at it
thats exactly what it is
more boom AND more reflex
thats legit exactly what it is
unreal chasm
the sub box?
your saying "you just looked at it" and "thats what it is" im not following
fair onyx
on one side Imma have them both in phase on the other side one will be out of ph...
this is exactly that
velvet summit
fair onyx
the left side is push push for more reflex, the right side is push pull for more boom
fair onyx
these achieve the same thing, as long as you invert the signal on the backwards one
look at this one, this is easier to understand
if they both pull in, the pressure inside the box will increase 2x as much and push them back out faster. That makes faster and stronger reflex
If one pulls in and the other out, it will keep the pressure inside the box the same, which makes it easier for them to move, thus more BOOM
First makes much tighter and snappier bass, second makes much bigger and boomier bass
red is the pressure zone
cone to cone will make the most reflex pressure, cause its a smaller area. If you extend a smaller area more, the pressure increases faster
misty sparrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866714797160792105/1322108619709354036/m-...
These things have no flavor anyway
Not much departure from water
mortal grail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/866714797160792105/1322108619709354036/m-...
Odd question what's your address
fair onyx
misty sparrow
fair onyx
right, I forgot. Isobaric (working together) gives them better low end extension as well
unreal chasm
cone to cone will make the most reflex pressure, cause its a smaller area. If yo...
I just feel like this could destroy some subs
Also now that I think of it the magnets will get in the way of my middle seat folding up so they cant have inverted subs
fair onyx
I just feel like this could destroy some subs
oh yeah, if you do it wrong and they move too much, they can seriously get damaged
it can be delicate to get right
@unreal chasmI found the simplest explaination. If you have them working together, you can get the same volume and frequency tuning as if you doubled the volume of the enclosure
unreal chasm
ah okayy
fair onyx
@unreal chasmOk, so, some of what I said was apprently wrong. I am looking at a high level overview. Working together does not make them louder. It actually makes them quieter, but it greatly smooths the frequency response
as seen here
but yes, this confirms that you need half the amount of space for the same resonance/response when doing two mounted together
for sure have a watch if you wanna better understand!
icy ore
misty sparrow
mhm
sage sluice
Honestly at this point i wouldnt be surprised if AMD said they werent competing with nvidias high end just to convince them to stuff up the prices abhorrently
Would be some pretty smart marketing tbh
"Hey look at this greedy cesspool!! Buy our stuff instead!!"
nocturne flicker
Nah, Nvidia was going to greed out no matter what they did, I imagine AMD was just hoping they could leech away at the lower and mid tier markets when Nvidia inevitably raised prices across the board. Except there is a bigger competition in that market than they probably expected with Intel
It isn't like they were really competing much at the high end to begin with, their market share is just small to begin with and that shrinks further up their stack
mortal grail
Imagine that price is real
Then every new game is made to run on a 2.5K 5090
Hahahahaha
It's so realistic it's scary
Ahahahaha
mortal grail
My 4090 might be worth more after next gen drops at this rate
mortal grail
I'm expecting a 2K paper launch
2.5K market price after 3 months
If the 5080 is 1400 then 2K scales almost perfectly to that
Meaning my estimations were actually generous
Which is hilarious
But then devs try to make games on a gpu no one wants to buy
hoary zodiac
2.5K + the $200 psu you need
mortal grail
Nah it's a 600W tdp
mortal grail
The 4090 spikes up to 750 on a normal bios lad
mortal grail
People give 4090 so much credit, 40 series in general is good with power management
Yes
I do
hoary zodiac
The 5090
mortal grail
Yes
hoary zodiac
that's a relief
mortal grail
Just don't stick a 14900K with it
hoary zodiac
I wonder
What if someone's building a monster workstation with it
With several 5090s
What kind of power setup would they need
mortal grail
But like the XTX is a stone's throw away in raster, worse efficiency but much cheaper, spikes to 550 stock
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mortal grail
People give the 4090 way too much credit
hoary zodiac
we don't take money
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hoary zodiac
!ask
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hoary zodiac
Put it in text chat so more people can help
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hoary zodiac
We know different aspects of pcs
mortal grail
No I'm watching a show
hoary zodiac
Same
nocturne flicker
Don't beg people to VC man
hoary zodiac
We're volunteers
mortal grail
LOL
No
Take it or leave it
Pfft
💀
Alr well balls in your court boeing
Lmfao
mortal grail
Idk why this can't be typed out but anw
hoary zodiac
We are doing things that is preventing us from being able to join a voice chat
We really can't
nocturne flicker
You know you've spent a lot more time asking for VC that could've easily been used to type out the question
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mortal grail
Then type your question
I volunteer to help
No
Lol
I make too much money to care lad
Choice is yours
nocturne flicker
Also stop with the I'll pay you to help. This is a free Discord where we voluntarily collaborate to help each other
hoary zodiac
🥱
mortal grail
Can be considered against the rules to be doing monetary services so yeah, the money part means nothing
hoary zodiac
ok
nocturne flicker
ok
mortal grail
Ok well go then
hoary zodiac
cool
hoary zodiac
Ah yes
mortal grail
I am completely expecting it now
mortal grail
Oh it'll happen
mortal grail
The tariffs have everyone panicking and using it as a scapegoat for price rises
hoary zodiac
Even overseas?
nocturne flicker
Scapegoat to raise prices and fire people 
mortal grail
Even overseas?
Ofc
hoary zodiac
Thanks yankees
nocturne flicker
Many a reddit post from people saying they got laid off because the company they worked for was bracing for tariffs
mortal grail
The ssd market did the same thing
About...2 years ago?
We had 1tb nvmes for like $35
Actually no
$25
hoary zodiac
Is that when they started swapping controllers as well
hoary zodiac
To be fair inflation
mortal grail
Not 2x
hoary zodiac
I remember the adata sx8200s were actually good for a period
mortal grail
That's not a market shift thing, that's just old practice
hoary zodiac
Before they started swapping the controllers
mortal grail
I remember the adata sx8200s were actually good for a period
Klevv c910 is the current meta rn
hoary zodiac
I got a silicon power A60
mortal grail
C910/M480 eco
mortal grail
I got a silicon power A60
Good here yeah
hoary zodiac
Yeah they seem to be a decent brand
mortal grail
You trolling or
mortal grail
What kind of fault?
Killed my x3d
hoary zodiac
how
mortal grail
What price for this mystery product
hoary zodiac
damn
mortal grail
Sure for like $50
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mortal grail
8250u isn't coffee lake right?
It's all skylake
hoary zodiac
Yeah the mobile ones are all skylake until 10th gen right?
mortal grail
@elfin mural
hoary zodiac
At least the u ones
elfin mural
begone
elfin mural
yw
hoary zodiac
Residential furry mod strikes again
mortal grail
Deserved
hoary zodiac
Also what kind of gift card you want
elfin mural
now i shall store my disinfectant away
mortal grail
Who foxxy?
elfin mural
ideally want visa gift card but
mortal grail
Ah
hoary zodiac
Wait
elfin mural
i could use steam
mortal grail
Lol
elfin mural
or amazon
hoary zodiac
Would you like steam or amazon tho
elfin mural
ye
elfin mural
psi gave me a gift card before
im sure it works
i redeemed a us card just fine lol
elfin mural
just make sure it's in usd ig
mortal grail
If he's gonna do that I'll do a tenner
hoary zodiac
We tried crypto and it doesn't work
Something something payment method not accepted
We're resorting to the call center scammer method now
elfin mural
i have paypal but his paypal is locked
it's asking for stupid proof
lol
also thank felix
mortal grail
Add meh
elfin mural
i added you
elfin mural
hrm
hoary zodiac
Haven't we been doing this for 3 weeks at this point lmao
elfin mural
whaaat
mortal grail
I guess it's anti-scam?
elfin mural
weird
mortal grail
Lol
elfin mural
lemme read steam's service
hoary zodiac
What if I buy you 50 copies of furry love
elfin mural
ok so you need to wait 3 days after we are added as friends on steam
thank you google summary
mortal grail
Damn
mortal grail
What if I buy you 50 copies of furry love
Yeah what if I did that LOL
elfin mural
i can do a game too
hoary zodiac
How much was the fans
elfin mural
you can wait 3 days and do the tenner
mortal grail
Neither tbh
mortal grail
I didn't expect boeing to be so nice this year lol
mortal grail
Ah
hoary zodiac
He's the one who got me to join
mortal grail
Oh
elfin mural
years back
elfin mural
i was still rocking an i3 2310m laptop
hoary zodiac
We go way back
elfin mural
i was a broke lil kid
mortal grail
Lol
hoary zodiac
I think i either had a Q6600 or a R5 1500X at the time
elfin mural
xd
mortal grail
Wth q6600
elfin mural
yep
mortal grail
Foreign codes
elfin mural
c2q
hoary zodiac
Done
elfin mural
returning soon
mortal grail
Alr
hoary zodiac
Merry skibidimas
mortal grail
hoary zodiac
Or whatever the kids say these days
mortal grail
Oooo
mortal grail
On that note I like the way apple simplifies things similarly
They don't hide options
They make what you want to do easy to find
If only they were cheaper lol
fair onyx
@elfin mural Hey, some rando messaged me in DM's to pay me money to build him a PC or something, and then he added me to a group and started spam calling me
@long steeple
mortal grail
Let me guess
fair onyx
Him ^
mortal grail
Ah yes
fair onyx
The hell is he up to?
fair onyx
He asked me if I wanted to help and I said maybe, but he just called me multiple times out of nowhere
mortal grail
Idk what it is but they're refusing to say a word in chat about it
Instead demanding to phone call
hoary zodiac
Foxy's in the showers
mortal grail
It's sus
hoary zodiac
And also inefficient
mortal grail
Since it's pc building it could've been a very easy request
hoary zodiac
Text chat's always the best way to help
Because we can have more people that can take a glance and just know what the problem is
hoary zodiac
And like weary said
mortal grail
It's not personal in that regard so no point in forcing vc
hoary zodiac
Would've taken less time to just type the issue in chat
mortal grail
I feel like there's something else going on
mortal grail
Got no idea, not gonna waste brain cells on it
hoary zodiac
They can get more of a reaction from a call
mortal grail
It's toxic
mortal grail
$5
hoary zodiac
$10
mortal grail
Thermi moment
hoary zodiac
I want a stupid heatsink
sage sluice
My 4090 might be worth more after next gen drops at this rate
Sell it for 3k, and buy 5 7900XTs 
Or whatever in aussie dollas
mortal grail
Sell it for 3k, and buy 5 7900XTs <:kekw:741678350791081994>
Legitimately thinking this but 5090 when the price drops
mortal grail
I genuinely thinking someone cooked eggs on it lol
hoary zodiac
Oh wait how do those coolers work again?
Don't they have fans on both sides?
Or just the reference models
mortal grail
Oh there's tons of vids LOL
gilded kraken
Wild, just found out that the GPU power monitor in afterburner can cause bad 1% lows in games on random hardware configs
sage sluice
Legitimately thinking this but 5090 when the price drops
Would legitimately be a net positive
mortal grail
Wild, just found out that the GPU power monitor in afterburner can cause bad 1% ...
Which gpu
mortal grail
Interesting
gilded kraken
yea. I dont use it in my OSD so I just toggled it off
mortal grail
Oh specifically osd?
gilded kraken
nah the graph monitoring in general
mortal grail
Hm
gilded kraken
just flip the check on gpu power off and its fine
mortal grail
I might look into that
Fascinating
I had some hitching on a couple games a while back I could never figure out
But I had afterburner running
Maybe that's related
I might check that out, good to know
gilded kraken
no idea. fascinating video to find it out though
gilded kraken
I might check that out, good to know
they said the used FPSMon? I think its called and it was fine
mortal grail
Latencymon?
gilded kraken
maybe, i'll just link the vid
mortal grail
Alr
gilded kraken
mortal grail
Ohhhh i2c monitoring
Yeah that's a real thing
Yeah I'd believe it if afterburner draws from that
Important to know btw
This is why you try and prioritise games to lone cores and background stuff to others
It helps with that sort of thing
But I didn't know afterburner did that, only hwinfo
So interesting info
gilded kraken
interesting. Ive never tried it personally. I use HWinfo atm because Afterburner doesnt display my CPU temp
it needs to be updated to recognize the new 9800x3d
or a hybrid of the two actually
mortal grail
Yeah hwinfo gives you the option to disable it
But I don't use afterburner on radeon so it should be mainly an nvidia thing
gilded kraken
interesting. is the option to disable it on the sensors only or do I gotta launch the full program
gilded kraken
yea. Ive tried but theres litterally not a option for CPU package temp right now
hoary zodiac
damn
gilded kraken
for the new chip
gilded kraken
gilded kraken
I'll check it out later, it might get a pin
HWinfo is doing it too
gilded kraken
the user MKDR explains why its hapening
devout forum
We're so cooked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r2iBhxDhEM
gilded kraken
I heavily doubt you'll need the 5080
Im replacing my 3080 10 gig, while probably right I still had planned to nab it to finish off this brand new build
same song and dance as 4 years ago
sage sluice
I wish i could play ark ascended on a 7900 gre 🥹
mortal grail
I wish i could play ark ascended on a 7900 gre 🥹
Laggy mess anyway
mortal grail
But fun game :(
Poop everywhere meta
You should mod it with accelerated poop
Do like
mortal grail
Every time you poop the poop cycle gets 25% faster
sage sluice
mortal grail
So you have to reach civilised technology before the poop speed becomes so fast the game crashes
hoary zodiac
man
It's so hard to find blu ray box sets for niche shows second hand
at least for cheap
fair onyx
ok, discord compact is so cursed lmao
opaque sedge
near 4080 super perf would be awesome at 500-600 but idk i feel like thats too hopeful
sage sluice
near 4080 super perf would be awesome at 500-600 but idk i feel like thats too h...
I would cry in 7900 gre costing that
opaque sedge
I would cry in 7900 gre costing that
the 7900gre before the production ended was at that price range depending on aibs
mortal grail
600 would be insane for a card like that
Don't think AMD's motivated enough to do that
opaque sedge
Don't think AMD's motivated enough to do that
wbt intel in lets say for their 4th generation once arc gains more traction?
the b580 must be a really big motivator for them rn
paper verge
can someone tell me what the hell gear ratios in ram are
been searching online but im still very confused
craggy shoal
I don't think that's a thing
what
Unless you mean like a Ram 1500
like one of these Rams
mortal grail
can someone tell me what the hell gear ratios in ram are
Refers to the rate of which certain parts of the memory controller run in sync with each other
So gear 1 is complete 1:1 sync
Gear 2 is 1:2
Gear 4 is 1:4
mortal grail
bro is describing a DCT
Gearboxes in general tbh
craggy shoal
I just read 2 and 4 lol. Made me think of DCTs
mortal grail
But the way intel runs gears is a similar idea
craggy shoal
Felix I genuinely can't tell whether you're being serious. I don't think there's gears in computers lol
mortal grail
Well gearboxes run in ratios to a final drive, it's a similar concept just physical not digital
craggy shoal
w h a t
mortal grail
tf is a 1:2:2
Are you referring to amd
paper verge
yep
craggy shoal
man I just woke up
paper verge
wait who is motor talking to rn
craggy shoal
bofa y'all
mortal grail
1:2:2 refers to the rate of sync for fclk, uclk, mclk
So 2 are in half sync to the 1
paper verge
hows that even possible
mortal grail
i.e every 2nd cycle
paper verge
when the max fclk is 2200 or smth
craggy shoal
so not gear ratios just clock ratios
mortal grail
hows that even possible
Getting into the harmonics side of things asking that
It can because they manage to allow that bisynchronous operation
mortal grail
For amd it's not really anymore
It's synced and desynced
Amd basically permanently desynced their fclk with new gen
craggy shoal
i heard its called gear ratios
probably some 12 y/o "car guy" who saw "1:2:2" and thought "woah computers have that too?"
mortal grail
And mclk and uclk are the only 2 synced
Or half synced
i.e gear 1 and 2 but they don't call it that
mortal grail
so not **gear** ratios just clock ratios
Ye, but the principle is similar
craggy shoal
gotcha
mortal grail
Harmonics and gear ratios have a lot in common
paper verge
mortal grail
If I need to be more specific from here I'd need a whiteboard lmao
craggy shoal
"gear" is crazy
paper verge
this ram stuff is really messing with my brain lol
mortal grail
"gear" is crazy
It's an official term
paper verge
bruh
craggy shoal
If I need to be more specific from here I'd need a whiteboard lmao
I think Discord has a whiteboard in VCs now lol. It's in their games section when you join a VC
paper verge
I think Discord has a whiteboard in VCs now lol. It's in their games section whe...
its had that for like 6 months
mortal grail
this ram stuff is really messing with my brain lol
People are paid big money to be smart at ram lol
craggy shoal
People are paid big money to be smart at ram lol
"Computer Science"
mortal grail
You could call it that
craggy shoal
"I know computers" *in computer science*
mortal grail
Having an SC degree I don't think even scratches the surface tbh
mortal grail
imagine being a ram master
You know there's a couple good names you could ask more about this in #overclocking
paper verge
You know there's a couple good names you could ask more about this in <#61060220...
yeah i think the dog profile guy is good at ram
mortal grail
Forks for example with seby have been destroying the gskill ram competitions
They win prizes every year
paper verge
ggood i think their name is
mortal grail
Ggood uh
craggy shoal
Yeah they focus too much on only programming in CS rather than teaching actual computer science to be named a "Computer Science" degree lol
paper verge
ah
mortal grail
He's admitted to this before
And yeah knowing the way it works isn't anything much ado with the way you overclock
paper verge
Yeah they focus too much on only programming in CS rather than teaching actual c...
its not like the programming side is any easier
paper verge
And yeah knowing the way it works isn't anything much ado with the way you overc...
cool ram starting to sound interesting gonna dig more into it
craggy shoal
True but I think for a CS degree they should still teach them how computers work lol
mortal grail
Alr
velvet summit
It's an official term
paper verge
they should just give all cs majors a stm with 1kb of flash and teach them programming on that
lmfao
craggy shoal
I'm not the most efficient programmer but I'd know for sure I could be efficient if I was good at programming but also knew hardware as good as I currently know
mortal grail
If I can give a good suggestion, be prepared for tons of harmonics calculations and understanding that kind of mechanical motion
Electrical studies and AC learning will help you get a bit deeper
paper verge
I'm not the most efficient programmer but I'd know for sure I could be efficient...
thats why compilers exist
mortal grail
Since it's all about signal frequency
paper verge
Electrical studies and AC learning will help you get a bit deeper
yes electric is where i actually know what im doing
craggy shoal
That's also why C++ exists 💀
Just teach heavy in C++ and you'll have a quick program and 2-4 years worth of a single language drilled into a recent graduate's head
paper verge
not really
paper verge
if you go beyond loops in c++ you start to get into fundamentals
either way getting people straight into c++ doesnt seem like the best introduction to coding lol
craggy shoal
"Come join CS. Suffer. It's fun :)"
paper verge
web devs be like
craggy shoal
Web development is easy lol
paper verge
frontend for sure
craggy shoal
Just suffer with JavaScript and then realize you should just be using TypeScript, then use a framework, whatever else after, all the way until you realize you could've just had a self-hosted instance of Wordpress anyways
paper verge
Just suffer with JavaScript and then realize you should just be using TypeScript...
and then pretend like google gonna accept you 🤣
craggy shoal
💀
hoary zodiac
CE > CS
craggy shoal
What's CE?
hoary zodiac
Computer Engineering
paper verge
embedded is really fun
but way harder aswell
lockheed guys are prob way beyond cs and ce anyways
craggy shoal
(I also meant that as a joke)
Get cheap Chinese fans, put them on the AIO
CPU reaches 80ºC when loading a world in Minecraft 🫠
53ºC at idle
mortal grail
Numbers mean nothing without context
craggy shoal
I instantly ordered some AsiaHorse fans that look the same (just a momre reputable brand)
mortal grail
Same as what
craggy shoal
Numbers mean nothing without context
Loading into a self-hosted instance of a Better Minecraft 4 server
mortal grail
Loading into a self-hosted instance of a Better Minecraft 4 server
Which cpu and same as what fans lad
craggy shoal
Same as what
Same as these Lian Li Unifan knock-offs (on a 7900X)
mortal grail
They the sama's?
craggy shoal
(I think it was about mid-70s in-game as well)
mortal grail
What knockoff brand are they
craggy shoal
I already ordered the AsiaHorse ones lol. If they don't work I'll send them back and get the Sama ones lol
mortal grail
Can't vet asiahorse can vet sama tho
craggy shoal
Like I get that it's MC on a 7900X, it's gonna get hot, but I mean mid-70s on an AIO
vet? Australian expression? (genuine question btw lol)
mortal grail
Vet as in it's trusted
craggy shoal
gotcha
mortal grail
craggy shoal
Somebody said that they performed the same as their previous Lian Li fans so I kinda just trusted that
But we'll see
mortal grail
Somebody said that they performed the same as their previous Lian Li fans so I k...
Same as unifans is ass tho
mortal grail
Australia fans
craggy shoal
Didn't know they're Australian lol
craggy shoal
I could probably still use these icoler fans for a push-pull config lolll
Another Australian thing?
mortal grail
Nah just muh brain
craggy shoal
lolll
paper verge
https://youtube.com/shorts/8W1eGgJAUEU
bruh is it just me or do these pc focused youtubers have the knowledge of a 15yo
craggy shoal
Yeah they always sound like that
paper verge
that doesnt change anything
craggy shoal
Probably makes sense (I'll still thank him for his service)
paper verge
im talking about your general big pc youtuber
mortal grail
Idk I think he's about as close to down the line as it gets for pc content these days
paper verge
like carterpc and such
mortal grail
GN is right there with him
He's just obsessed with nzxt tho
Or was
Now he simps hyte
craggy shoal
I can't stand CarterPC lol
mortal grail
Which is just nzxt remastered
paper verge
ive seen him rate pc builds
and the stuff he changes are the most obvious stuff dont see him doing anything beyond that
craggy shoal
Or that other white guy on TikTok who is basically the white version of CarterPC (please don't ban me I just can't remember his name)
paper verge
Or that other white guy on TikTok who is basically the white version of CarterPC...
the one with the glasses right?
mortal grail
and the stuff he changes are the most obvious stuff dont see him doing anything ...
I mean that's fine imo
craggy shoal
the one with the glasses right?
nah
mortal grail
He's transparent
craggy shoal
Holdup lemme find him
mortal grail
I don't like pc youtubers with bias
craggy shoal
Kayjayohpcs
paper verge
never seen him
craggy shoal
You'd recognize him if you're on TikTok a lot
paper verge
most of them just get popular cuz fake giveaway
craggy shoal
Bro knows everything about RAM but can't google "tiktok"
mortal grail
paper verge
You'd recognize him if you're on TikTok a lot
thats for boomers
mortal grail
Why would I google a time sink social network
paper verge
im on yt shorts
craggy shoal
I'd say YT Shorts is for boomers tbh 💀
mortal grail
Same thing
mortal grail
Probably already exists with all the stupid bloatware they've stuffed in
tranquil pebble
Millenials are pretty much the successor to boomers in some ways. We are literally even called echo boomers sometimes
Just obviously much stronger with tech in general
7000X8D processor
mortal grail
8D
sage sluice
7X3====D
velvet summit
I forgot that your ass becomes a ring of fire after you eat food that is spicy enough
unreal trail
mortal grail
tranquil pebble
I was just talking about the 7800X3D :(
I have one of those on the way
sinful blade
Between you and fingers we got the whole dynamic here
UwU?
proud jackal
tranquil pebble
p3 dark hour
dusk knot
I need my Nvidia fix
sinful blade
The time approaches
GTA 6th
tranquil pebble
imagine how much it would cost to buy one of every nvidia product currently in production
mortal grail
imagine how much it would cost to buy one of every nvidia product currently in p...
A small loan of a mil-
rancid juniper
near 4080 super perf would be awesome at 500-600 but idk i feel like thats too h...
Fr
🗿
storm narwhal
God damn 39 pin
Oh wait that's power stages not pins
1500 msrp
Yeah I'm getting Intel arc
tranquil pebble
cant wait for UDNA to come and wallop Nvidia where it really hurts: compute
dusk knot
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-5080-rumored-to-feature-a-whopping-1500-...
"cost up to..."
Meaning it won't start at $1500
So $1200 might be the starting price
tranquil pebble
1500 is still absurd for 80 class
rancid juniper
Meaning it won't start at $1500
Well it's still a rumor so we don't know, and even then that's still stupid expensive
tranquil pebble
cant wait for UDNA to come and wallop Nvidia where it really hurts: compute
which is why we NEED this, bad
rancid juniper
We really out here paying 1k+ on a brick that sits inside your computer
tranquil pebble
Yeah I'm getting Intel arc
Still need a Neco Arc card
storm narwhal
Dudes with a peanut allergy when I throw a brick at their head
tranquil pebble
peanut bricks
rancid juniper
Wildly lethal
tranquil pebble
Id save for AM5 at this point
kind verge
man idk cuz i dont have that kind of Money rn im 15
I think ill stay with am4 until am6 drops and maybe upgrade then
rancid juniper
I think ill stay with am4 until am6 drops and maybe upgrade then
Well you can get it for a bit cheaper:https://a.co/d/5O6TdOd
kind verge
And the only am4 CPU thats worth upgrading to are the x3d but idk if the price Is good
kind verge
im in Italy btw
viral heron
is there any way to fix high polling hz on mouse destroying fps
i have a good pc so idk why its causing lag
worn wave
And here in Italy prices are insane too
Can you use AliExpress?
tranquil pebble
safetensors files exist but not dangeroustensors
velvet summit
kind verge
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mNNvn8f
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKFSbgn
It costs 11k😭🙏
kind verge
i never bought from ali express but 50 less bucks Is 50 bucks less
velvet summit
velvet summit
i never bought from ali express but 50 less bucks Is 50 bucks less
be wary of scams though
ali has worse buyer protection than amazon
kind verge
Is there like a return Smth
kind verge
ali has worse buyer protection than amazon
Oh
worn wave
You can lookup additional reviews on Reddit or oknthe AliExpress page, SZ is legit
velvet summit
even amazon isnt perfect but you have a good chance of getting a refund on amazon than ali
tranquil pebble
Amazon hammered the scammer that got me last time I had an issue lol. Plus got refunded.
dusk knot
1500 is still absurd for 80 class
Anything above 1 grand is absurd
We need $700 back
😭
heavy dew
even amazon isnt perfect but you have a good chance of getting a refund on amazo...
Yeah I got rid of the hard drive, I gave it AND another bad hard drive to some guy, which some like scrap electronics stuff, man pulled up in a Nissan quest, I’m thinning this dude old as hell, nah the dude is like early 20s like me
I thought I was giving away free junk to an old man, cus he was asking me how much metal I got, nope some young dude, but he gonna have fun propbably
rancid juniper
With 16 gigs of vram
this is an actual crime against humanity
velvet summit
this is an actual crime against humanity
heavy dew
Now I got a 320GB HDD installing windows 10, and this installation is going smooth
Only problem is the mf touch pad stopped working, so imma have to install the drivers for that
rancid juniper
https://tenor.com/view/savages-pocahontas-gif-5458002
the more you buy, the more you're a fool
-Jensen's intrusive normal thoughts
sweet phoenix
This is how I feel abt the holidays
Three years of working in grocery stores as someone who doesn't celebrate Christmas made me hate the culture around the holiday
sweet phoenix
1500 is still absurd for 80 class
4080 started at 1200, meanwhile 3080 started at 700
rancid juniper
wait what?
sweet phoenix
Typo
rancid juniper
lol alr
sweet phoenix
4080 super was 1000, but that was how many months after launch?
Nvidia saw what people paid during the shortage and are capitalizing off of it
Not like people are going to stop being loyal to nvidia
heavy dew
I only got an RX 580 and a gateway from 2017 😭😭😭😭
frigid stag
4080 super was 1000, but that was how many months after launch?
From the first day
999
sweet phoenix
No?
The 4080 super did not come out on 40 series launch
The 4080 was $1200 and is basically the same card
frigid stag
Yeah different card
sweet phoenix
They launched the 4080 super and 4070 ti super with price cuts later
frigid stag
Ti super is worth it for the vram
sweet phoenix
4080 super was 1000, but that was how many months after launch?
This was asking how many months was the 4080 super released after launch
frigid stag
Ti super is worth it for the vram
Plus a normal vram bus
sweet phoenix
The 4070 ti super is the second worst value card this generation
4070 ti was discontinued so im not including that
frigid stag
Can’t be that bad when the 4060, 4060 ti, 4070 exist
sweet phoenix
The 4070 ti super is the second worst value card this generation
4060 ti 16gb takes the cake
frigid stag
And the meme 16gb 4060 ti
rancid juniper
Ti super is worth it for the vram
it was too expensive for what its worth
frigid stag
I found one for 599. Couldn’t check out fast enough on Amazon
sweet phoenix
4070 and 4060 ti 8gb are better price per frame than the ti super
And i absolutely hate these cards
frigid stag
4060 is a meme. 20 series cards are better
rancid juniper
i really dont think the higher classed 40 series will get any cheaper when RTX 50 series launch because everyone will try to get the older gen
sweet phoenix
In 30 series the lowest end card (im ignoring the 3060 8gb and 3050) matched the 1080 ti. In 40 series the lowest end card matched the 1080 ti
mortal grail
Y'all ready for a 2K 5090 paper launch
sweet phoenix
In 30 series the lowest end card (im ignoring the 3060 8gb and 3050) matched the...
But this time it had less vram and slightly better features
And cost more
Gotta love nvidia
frigid stag
It was slower than 1080 ti if we’re being pedantic but whatever
sweet phoenix
Istg if the 5060 is as bad as the 4060 and 3060 I'm suing nvidia for emotional distress
rancid juniper
Y'all ready for a 2K 5090 paper launch
if the 5080 is rumored to go up to $1500 then that fat ah 5090 will be 3k minimum
💀
sweet phoenix
~~It was slower than 1080 ti if we’re being pedantic but whatever~~
Fair but its close enough
The world is in shambles
mortal grail
I can't wait for a new more unobtainium card to be the bar for a 4K 60 experience in every milked AAA franchise over the next 2 years
sweet phoenix
Between costs of everything and the wars going on, how many governments are in shambles
sweet phoenix
Between costs of *everything* and the wars going on, how many governments are in...
It's kind of funny
sweet phoenix
Are you running the newest demanding releases?
