#general-chat

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unreal trail
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we literally have the CHIP act to start manufacturing chips here

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if Dewine quits being an idiot for 10 minutes so Intel can get their plant built, we could get started

swift star
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its crap its all crap i got a car rn that wont go because its vram is bad its crap junk

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i get it i sort of get it but keep me out of that loop ok? no? oh god here we go

plain stone
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thoughts on red team for editing davinci?

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i don't know much about amd's cards for workloads that aren't games and on how they perform

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like streaming and video editing

unreal trail
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I got an RX 6600 8GB with Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4Ghz CPU to upgrade my rig

sweet phoenix
unreal trail
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and its coming with a free 32 GB DDR4 Corsair RAM

misty sparrow
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“Wanna get good grades” part is unfortunately not something a lot of kids want to do nowadays

opaque sedge
dusk knot
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Citizens

unreal trail
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yeah they'll have to employ American citizens since Trump is about to get the military and deport the illegal immigrants

fervent stump
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Fans!!!!

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also I’m picking my up my case today

unreal trail
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need 10 fans

opaque sedge
fervent stump
lone mango
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I think even kids who were born from illegals too. They are going after all of them FlamesBeige FlamesBeige FlamesBeige

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Or something like that, don’t remember entirely

opaque sedge
lone mango
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Basically they aren’t messing around

nocturne flicker
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Can't wait for the food shortages

unreal trail
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his Homeland Security dude said he won't separate families, they can all go together.

lone mango
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Ah so it is true

pliant berry
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lets not get into politics here

lone mango
lone mango
opaque sedge
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The way he said it so bluntly

fervent stump
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10 fans or 6

unreal trail
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why not just run an AC vent through it like that one guy did

opaque sedge
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I’m curious if gasoline will get tariffs or not

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Pretty sure a lot of the fuel in the US comes from outside

unreal trail
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unless we tariff our own oil, I dont think so

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maybe at first, until we replenish our stockpile and get it flowing through our refineries

fervent stump
unreal trail
fervent stump
unreal trail
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thanks

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my rig is like 6 years old now, my 580 is huffing gas

dusk knot
fervent stump
nocturne flicker
fervent stump
nocturne flicker
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Most imported petroleum being from Canada

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To the tune of over 4 million barrels a day

swift star
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ev users dont think charging increases light bills? i dont im so over done

unreal trail
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North Dakota is swollen with oil though, we're about to let it flow

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charging your EV at home probably gets you a 1k electric bill

hoary zodiac
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it really depends on the circumstances

fervent stump
hoary zodiac
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I'm not a fan of evs either but y'all are exaggerating the downsides

nocturne flicker
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We are at the highest rate of oil production ever. We still import millions of barrels a day

hoary zodiac
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I wonder how much of that is used in energy production for the grid

dusk knot
hoary zodiac
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People in the 50s used to say that the future would be atomic power

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It's still a future in 2024

swift star
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if she doesn't know what by grabthars hammer is shes to young for you bro

hoary zodiac
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what

swift star
fervent stump
nocturne flicker
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If I have an ev with a 72kwh battery, which is the cheapest offering on a 2024 EV Mustang, and I charge it up 100% at the average US energy price of 14 cents a kwh, it'd cost about $10. It gets a similar range as my 2015 Escape. The Escape costs triple that to fill with gas derpyBlob

swift star
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ppl put 100k miles on cars in 5 years and im like how? do you wake up at 4 am and drive to work for 3 hours lol

hoary zodiac
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that could bring the cost down drastically if you're really cheap with electricity

swift star
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the math just doesn't math

hoary zodiac
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tho you would be at the mercy of the weather

nocturne flicker
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The only downside is that states charge EV registration fees to claw back extra money

opaque sedge
nocturne flicker
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TN does $250 or something

hoary zodiac
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for me the biggest disadvantage of EVs are current battery tech

swift star
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i think evs are at most for people who travel 60 miles per day at most, and at that rate *pulls out jiant math book

hoary zodiac
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I mean

swift star
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60 x 365 x 5

hoary zodiac
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for a car reliant society like the US

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most people probably do travel that little

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🤷‍♂️

opaque sedge
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Also i’m a bit confused abt inflation like i keep hearing peeps saying inflation needs to go down even if it goes down dont goods and services stay in the same price from previous increases or still be increasing

swift star
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your car is out of warrenty did you want to extend it?

opaque sedge
nocturne flicker
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Deflation is when prices slide across the board

hoary zodiac
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your money would be worth a lot less in a couple months if inflation keeps on skyrocketing

swift star
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the guys we have to work on your car are.. totatly.. reputatiple probably

hoary zodiac
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inflation is good to a certain extent

nocturne flicker
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People want deflation without realizing the harm deflation does

opaque sedge
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Makes sense

swift star
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dude dont talk about me in the 3rd 3rd person x0

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yalls cars should go 300k but 109k trade it in works math maths

opaque sedge
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Now i see why politicians dont explicitly state or talk about reducing the costs or outright mention deflation

hoary zodiac
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inflation can be an indication of economic growth

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if it's kept low

opaque sedge
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But if its high

hoary zodiac
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nobody's gonna have a good time

swift star
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yeah yeah cockys bad fur day runs on a n64

pseudo patrol
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I tried it jus now and it booted up successfully thanks, I didn’t know how easy but weird the cmos jumper technique was

nocturne flicker
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Deflation is generally a sign of economic contraction in a normal economy, meaning large scale drawbacks in economic activity

swift star
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whats stoping me from postin the most computer setup i can from google lol

hoary zodiac
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what is this guy on about

pseudo patrol
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I like the subtle mix

nocturne flicker
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A small amount of inflation is healthy, the problem is when wages don't keep track with inflation

hoary zodiac
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and the gpu to some extent

swift star
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sexy computer gaming set up with legs

hoary zodiac
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I wonder if i still have pics of my old build

rancid juniper
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glad your problem is solved

swift star
hoary zodiac
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the old chungus

pure geyser
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looks like this is the case

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i just got a tracking number for my 9800x3d

swift star
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my phone wont let take a picture of my computer if my legs in it

pliant berry
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yup

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good luck with the new parts

swift star
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nerds are so both visicous and cute lol

dusk knot
rancid juniper
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hey JP

dusk knot
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Hey compooper

rancid juniper
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hows ur day?

dusk knot
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I fixed my car

rancid juniper
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oh

dusk knot
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And I'm currently working

rancid juniper
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break time over get back to work

dusk knot
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Never

rancid juniper
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gonna tell the boss smh

swift star
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i feel like trump might have incoming trade war on exports and that should effect parts pricing

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but really amazon pricing 40 dollers for timing chains should match autozones 300 dollers for same thing?

rancid juniper
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AutoZone be charging what?

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💀

swift star
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this is a computer parts thing which graphcis cards went up by what precent in covid lol

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i just want a microphone so i can drunk karokee

pure geyser
swift star
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oh jeeze i think cars after 2019 might start requireing a paid for pass code to access obd port to protect the manufacter rick?

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dont get me started on the trash thats created by the world savers all i want is a microphone for drunk karokee xD

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so like i dont wanna spend over 40 bucks, but like i feel like 100 bucks is just like microphone?

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do you think santa clause will bring me a microphone for when im drunk xD

sinful blade
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This is chillin at my Walmart

worn wave
rancid juniper
swift star
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do you hear what i hear? my kids wanted a ps5 for christmas? heres a nintendo switch and also your car broke .

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i scaned it out it sayd the vram is bad, replace computer

sinful blade
swift star
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yah yall keep on with that stuff but im pretty sure its illegal for me to make my own car, probably

rancid juniper
swift star
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cops pull me over >.> your .. what is that its running on dual rtx 4090 tis warter cooled and idk your face a littl ebit

sinful blade
swift star
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dont forget this is for newegg

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i normally order cheap stuff off amazon but what i do isnt' really revelavent

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stop that we all just trying to get buy x0

rancid juniper
dusk knot
swift star
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so you got your parts for cheap now what you gonna fix it yourself? and there is the problem

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i dont need need doctor to tell me i been rode hard and put up wet

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so a microphone that dont echo my voice thats what im lookin for

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i might use it once or thrice ever 4 months

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if it tears up i aint gonna blame ya! i just want somethin that works

velvet summit
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Which means you need operational indicator lights, a license plate, you need to get a vin for the car, and headlights and such

icy ore
opaque sedge
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(Not sure abt the specifics but people seem to go all in with mo restraint on vehicle modifications there)

velvet summit
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Modding a car and building a completely new car from the chassis up is different

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Car mods use an existing certified car frame

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This also why most prototype/concept cars that are road legal use existing frames

rancid juniper
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Gotta make sure your car doesn't fall apart like Lego if it hits a pebble

velvet summit
sinful blade
rancid juniper
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Triple 7600

fervent stump
opaque sedge
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These rumors are getting out of hand 😭

fervent stump
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Holy sht this case is so big

opaque sedge
fervent stump
opaque sedge
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Its big

fervent stump
sweet phoenix
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If anyone happens to be looking for a mid range gpu

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3080 12gb is $340

opaque sedge
dusk knot
opaque sedge
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The 3080 can handle 1440p pretty well right

rancid juniper
rancid juniper
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Be wary of the vram intensive ones tho

fervent stump
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@craggy shoal meanie

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Ima use a Rubik’s cube as a anti sag thing

storm narwhal
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How tall is a Rubik's cube

opaque sedge
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Which has 12gigs…

storm narwhal
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Not sure how its going to support the GPU in the main 16x slot

rancid juniper
worn wave
rancid juniper
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It is

opaque sedge
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Back when the game had vram consumption issues

worn wave
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What game is 12gb at 1440p a limiting factor?

rancid juniper
opaque sedge
rancid juniper
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Silent Hill 2
MH wilds
Any UE5 game ffs

opaque sedge
sweet phoenix
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At high/ultra settings

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Which is just sad

fervent stump
rancid juniper
worn wave
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UE5 is cool in theory but 💩 in actuality (so far)

fervent stump
sweet phoenix
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The fact that there's last gen gpus that can't run multiple titles this year is hilarious

opaque sedge
rancid juniper
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Ah

storm narwhal
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Multiple cubes then

rancid juniper
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That game doesn't use much surprisingly

fervent stump
opaque sedge
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Pretty sure pojject orion is gonna be ue5

rancid juniper
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It's all fun and games till I see my 7800xt at the minimum system requirements late 2025

opaque sedge
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Maybe not minimum

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But recommended

rancid juniper
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It's over midrange bros

opaque sedge
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Some games have had 3070s for recommended specs lately

rancid juniper
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It's time to pack up and buy RTX 5090 titan

opaque sedge
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Performance reminds me of the ridiculous rumors abt the 8800xt spreading rn kekw

wary fjord
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I dont want to invest on another controller just for my phone xD onscreen will do for now

sweet phoenix
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I'm planning to upgrade whenever I have a decently paying job

worn wave
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What's really depressing is seeing upscaling/dlss/fsr included in reccomended specs

sweet phoenix
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And then this 2080 ti is going to my friend

opaque sedge
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And i thought my mom’s expectations for me was too much

rancid juniper
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That's wild

sweet phoenix
worn wave
sweet phoenix
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75-150

opaque sedge
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7900xt performance at 450 might be nice tho

worn wave
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Also I don't understand why the 7700xt perf is not comparable

wary fjord
# rancid juniper Razer kishi

I wanna do gamesir one because they have this game fusion app thats like winlator but better it does gta v at 100+ fps

opaque sedge
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Cant let it get to our heads

rancid juniper
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8800xt reaching 4080 perf for a low price is an insane fever dream that might kill you

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😭

fervent stump
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Why is fish tank soooooooooo big?

rancid juniper
wary fjord
rancid juniper
opaque sedge
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Good for beginners tho cuz easy af cable management

wary fjord
fervent stump
opaque sedge
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We told you abt that ages ago 😭

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They’re huge

fervent stump
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It’s next to a Rubik’s cube

dusk knot
fervent stump
opaque sedge
worn wave
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buys big case
big case is big
OMG THIS CASE IS SO BIG

rancid juniper
wary fjord
rancid juniper
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That's unlikely

opaque sedge
fervent stump
dusk knot
wary fjord
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Dual chamber big boii

fervent stump
fervent stump
rancid juniper
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Battlemage b770 reaching 4070 super levels of perf makes me a bit skeptical

fervent stump
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Thing looks small

rancid juniper
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Hope it's true but I'm hitting copium

dusk knot
wary fjord
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It wont matter case is a case

opaque sedge
# wary fjord

Reminds me of my 4070super in my old 903 air no presence whatsoever kekw

fervent stump
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Wait

wary fjord
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Just hurry up and build

fervent stump
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I now have to get the nzxt kraken….

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I can’t get some random aio I like matching brands😪

opaque sedge
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I kind of want an aio ngl

fervent stump
fervent stump
opaque sedge
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Was thinking of grabbing a thermalright one but i really have no particular need for it

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Maybe if i become unusually and unnaturally fortunate enough to win a lottery

opaque sedge
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4070super

fervent stump
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Why is it so small?

opaque sedge
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Thermals are pretty good on it so doesn’t need a big heatsink

wary fjord
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Get amd rx 8950 xt super

opaque sedge
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But there are models that are pretty big

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Like tuf or gigabyte aero

fervent stump
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I need a big one so it looks good in this BIG CASE

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I don’t want it looking empty that’s why

fervent stump
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Wait no

opaque sedge
fervent stump
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I mean asus

opaque sedge
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Tuf?

fervent stump
opaque sedge
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Yeah they’re big

fervent stump
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Will this take up a good amount of space in the case

opaque sedge
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Check the measurements

fervent stump
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What’s bigger usually tuf or gigabyte

opaque sedge
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It should look fine

fervent stump
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Lemme ask chargpt

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I may get gigabyte

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Why silver?

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Only blue rgb?

onyx merlin
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my new rig

rancid juniper
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Alienware

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Lol I also have a modem sitting on my desk

storm narwhal
onyx merlin
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installing games so likely not getting around to playing tonight but its sold rig so far

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also the 1440P monitor images are so much more crisp

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then the 1080p Ihad before

storm narwhal
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wait the alienware is the new rig?

onyx merlin
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yup

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old one was a G5 dell gaming desktop from 2020

storm narwhal
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ohh I figured you meant the parts were new but you reused the case loll

onyx merlin
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nah

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but I got 4080 Super in this

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should stay relevant for 4-5 years

storm narwhal
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Hopfully it doesn't overheat first

onyx merlin
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when I get another new pc or something

storm narwhal
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Their cases historically have been crap for that, but from cusory looks it seems to have enough ventilation

onyx merlin
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lol @storm narwhal will be playing like on high or something mabey ultra and cap frames to 30-60 with vysnc on... I do it with any gaming setup to help extend longetivity plus

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your eye cant see more then 30-60 FPS anyways

storm narwhal
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I definitely can

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60 vs 120 I can literally feel in game

onyx merlin
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you got perfect vision ? I dont

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have to wear glasses to see far away

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clearly

storm narwhal
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I gotta wear glasses too but it's not a heavy prescription

onyx merlin
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but 30-60 FPS is the idle range anyways for gaming

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you only need like 120-150 frames if compettive gaming

cedar compass
storm narwhal
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fair

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if it's a visual kinda game then yeah, 60 is fine

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I just usually play more shooters so I set above 60

rancid juniper
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I can see a difference between 60 and 120

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When I got my first high refresh monitor (170hz) I couldn't believe how smooth the games were

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It's really hard to go back to 60fps

onyx merlin
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is raytracing even worth it ?

storm narwhal
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Nahh

rancid juniper
storm narwhal
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It's still a gimmick

onyx merlin
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4080 Super should be able to handle it at 40-80 frames per second

rancid juniper
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Not many games use RT and you have to use upscaling and perhaps framegen to get any decent results with RT

storm narwhal
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Like Cyberpunk is doing

rancid juniper
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Running RT on pure native is still not worth it

rancid juniper
storm narwhal
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Ray reconstruction + DLSS 3 + frame gen

rancid juniper
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Actual software gimmicks

storm narwhal
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Ray reconstruction does help with performance if you have path tracing turned on

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But yeah it's not something I'd have on when I'm playing lol

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I toggle the RT option and nothing else on because it has no effect on performance

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Thanks, Steve

rancid juniper
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There are very few games where raytracing actually looks nice

velvet summit
# onyx merlin your eye cant see more then 30-60 FPS anyways

24fps is when images start being fluid
this is pretty much the minimum for fluid motion, which is why many movies and films were at that framerate, because it was the cheapest framerate for video

games used to be rendered at 30fps because of hardware limitations, but once it became powerful enough to support 60, most people switched to that

30 to 60 is a fairly huge leap due to the percieved latency between input and visual, as there is around 17ms less latency on 60fps compared to 30fps from just the display, before you add the input latency from peripherals and the computer, and the display board which often also had extra latency

if you were just watching a video though, it's less noticeable if you switch between 30fps and 60fps

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tl;dr it's not about how many fps you see, but how much latency between each frame there is

rancid juniper
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Damn, good analysis

storm narwhal
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It's something you definitely feel

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Moreso than really like, see? I can't really put it into better words than 343

rancid juniper
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It's definitely felt

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Response is snappier and fluid

storm narwhal
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me when I see myself die in higher fidelity

velvet summit
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lmao

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dies in 4k

dusk knot
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Soon everything will be RT as developers have less and less time to make games

storm narwhal
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I need 890fps 4k just to suck in COD

storm narwhal
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LOL

velvet summit
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💀

dusk knot
storm narwhal
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The game that shall not be spoken

rancid juniper
storm narwhal
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Sony spent so many money and years

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Just to make overwatch 1.5

rancid juniper
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250mil

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Biggest disaster in media history

dusk knot
rancid juniper
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Marvel rivals will be the overwatch 2 that people actually want

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Trust

pliant berry
rancid juniper
dire owl
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back again to ask the same stupid question
anyone got any good laptop reccomendations for vr games
tryna get those black friday deals

misty sparrow
fervent stump
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Can a 4070 TI super and a 7700X play in 4K great

onyx merlin
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gaming laptops obsolete

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Steam Deck made sure of that lol

misty sparrow
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some games will push it to its limits though

dusk knot
fervent stump
fervent stump
misty sparrow
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Depending on if they push graphics or are unoptimized or both

dusk knot
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Need some storm

misty sparrow
fervent stump
rancid juniper
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😭

dusk knot
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Yeah

fervent stump
rancid juniper
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It will super struggle

velvet summit
fervent stump
rancid juniper
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Gottem

storm narwhal
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4k is hard to run

misty sparrow
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Cyberpunk maxed out with path tracing n stuff enabled on 4K will drag a 4090 to its bare knees i think

fervent stump
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So should I wait for a 5080/5070

velvet summit
# onyx merlin Steam Deck made sure of that lol

not really
gaming laptops are often considerably cheaper than workstation laptops with something like "nvidia graphics" (formerly nvidia quadro) so many people who need workstations end up buying gaming laptops to save like $1000 on a laptop that performs like exactly the same

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ong

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the quadro tax

onyx merlin
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@velvet summit and Steam Decks are more affordable then gaming laptops and offer just as good performance and are more portable

velvet summit
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just as good? that's a bit of a stretch

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they are definitely way more affordable though

storm narwhal
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yeah they're not equivalent to gaming laptops

misty sparrow
storm narwhal
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they're cheaper for sure

dusk knot
storm narwhal
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but it's not a laptop

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Those still have higher TDPs and more cooling capacity

fervent stump
onyx merlin
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well I got 64GB in my desktop so thats nice

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much better then 32GB

dusk knot
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Just don't be poor

storm narwhal
velvet summit
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my gaming laptop would beat a steam deck in any game any day in terms of performance

fervent stump
velvet summit
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but it also costs like 4x more

storm narwhal
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real

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And you can do games literally anywhere you go pretty much

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I genuinely want a steam deck

velvet summit
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if i were just gaming though, i would probably prefer the steam deck, but a gaming laptop can do much more than just gaming

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especially since it lacks a physical keyboard, and the screen is tiny

onyx merlin
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so whats average idle temps for a 4080 Super ?

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just curious

velvet summit
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depends on your fan curves and your cooler design

onyx merlin
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well mines is sitting at 28-32C

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at moment idle with only downloading games going on and browsing web

velvet summit
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you can idle from anywhere from sub ambient with like a chiller
or idle at like 80c

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idle temps do not matter at all unless you're somehow thermal throttling while idle

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then that would concerning

onyx merlin
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will see what temps are like once I start gaming possibly tonight or not got so much stuff to transfrer over to pc and games to download

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tonight is more just setting pc up

storm narwhal
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Technically you can do some laptop things on the steam deck too

velvet summit
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if you're going to do thermal testing, do it under full load

storm narwhal
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Desktop mode and runs linux so you could install programs

velvet summit
onyx merlin
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regardless this pc will last 4-5 years pretty easily my old Dell desktop giving to parents still works good

storm narwhal
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You'd need to at least bring a mouse lol

onyx merlin
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I just was wanting more modern setup with latest gpu

storm narwhal
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and probably an external monitor

velvet summit
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i wouldnt want to use the on screen keyboard

misty sparrow
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Oh right Steam deck has the docking station

sinful blade
storm narwhal
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is the on screen keyboard not great for actual longer typing sessions

onyx merlin
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@sinful blade best get on it before holiday rush.

sinful blade
onyx merlin
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WOrk going to be bad soon

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at post office

velvet summit
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a mouse is honestly less important, i think in order to work on the steam deck you'll need at least an external monitor and a keyboard as minimum

onyx merlin
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with all the holiday stuff

velvet summit
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lmao

onyx merlin
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I hope people leave out some snacks and water/soda this holiday season

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that is best way to treat your carrier or any delivery driver

swift star
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do you get do you get it do you? do you hast mesh

sinful blade
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I almost got into a subcontracting FedEx job
Before they told me day before I started that I wouldn’t be able to leave in an emergency, call off at all in case of emergency, and I was required to get their tracking app to be used even off hours

velvet summit
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might not be writing like a 20 page essay for most work but you might be writing at least a few paragraphs, whether that is for answering some emails or filling in some forms or whatever

sinful blade
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$800 a week

swift star
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mean while i make existance per week lol nah you got me fam

dire owl
misty sparrow
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No

storm narwhal
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Its a steam deck lol

dire owl
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idk nevre used one

sinful blade
storm narwhal
#

Ah that's fair

velvet summit
#

technically speaking it probably can run beat saber at most

storm narwhal
#

Yeah it's a handheld portable

#

Not built for VR

sinful blade
#

You saw it

swift star
#

its not weird for vr to be out for 10 years and no one expericed vr

dire owl
#

wha

velvet summit
#

not really that weird

sinful blade
#

Just racist

velvet summit
#

also google cardboard used to exist and i think a bunch of people have at least tried that

dire owl
#

but i am one

velvet summit
#

though it was garbage

#

also vr is much older than just 10 years

sinful blade
#

Doesn’t matter what you are
That’s just a straight up derogatory term my guy

onyx merlin
#

so how much space you all got on your PC ? I got 10TB in total 6TB SSD space total and 4TB HDD

swift star
#

i never played vr so like doom 64 is good in vr? i want my first time to be special

velvet summit
#

there's not a vr version of that

#

also doom 64 is a 2.5d game

#

iirc

storm narwhal
#

it is.

velvet summit
#

pretty sure it was a 2d game with some clever tricks that made it look 3d

swift star
#

bro if your gonna trap me in your basement i got 3 hours

velvet summit
#

honestly

#

as someone who owns a high end (if it was like 4 years ago) vr headset, vr games are still kinda wack lmao

idle summit
#

Mini pc even worth the price

#

Accumulate with a standalone tablet like monitor huh!?

velvet summit
#

most mini pcs are not really worth the price tbh

swift star
#

i would think skyrim would be the preimum vr experseicne

sinful blade
storm narwhal
#

Some are but

idle summit
#

ATM looks as if they offering more than it’s worth

#

Think bout it

swift star
#

remember when we thought two graphics cards meant more gooder?

idle summit
#

One gets to get adjusted to a nvme

#

Gets you set if in the future you’re in the market still.

velvet summit
storm narwhal
velvet summit
#

nvmes are dirt cheap nowadays

#

well, not quite dirt cheap

storm narwhal
#

I don't see how there would be an adjustment period for nvmes

#

it's just, faster

velvet summit
#

but they're like, barely any more expensive than a hdd pretty much

sinful blade
#

Got wife a 512GB for like $20

swift star
#

its amazing what 20 dollers gets these days

velvet summit
#

that's for sure

#

but at the same time, $20 barely does crap nowadays

sinful blade
velvet summit
#

technically 1 upgrade path for some (storage)
sometimes 2 (sodimm ram)

swift star
#

20 dollers is nothing if you tip 10 percent at a resturant but if you spend 20 dollers on a computer part 😮

storm narwhal
#

yeah sometimes they have 2 nvme slots and 2 removeable sodimms

pliant berry
swift star
#

bro got that coal gate total lol

storm narwhal
#

and only a select few even use oculink

#

which gives you better performance vs USB4 for a GPU

#

but that takes up one nvme slot

#

So your upgrades are pretty limited

swift star
#

my first computer my dad had was cyrix proccers and it crossed intel and amd and i had no business learning that

#

back in the day computer games wouldn't run well if you didn't have good computer

sinful blade
#

@swift star I’ll ask again

#

Are you high

velvet summit
#

back in today, computer games wouldnt run well if you didn't have a good computer

swift star
#

im a teenage mutant ninja tutrle for 3 hours if that helps lol

sinful blade
#

Real

swift star
#

my power supply when i for ray tracing

gilded kraken
#

is it the temu special brand?

swift star
#

yes probably its not like i know how to make power supplies

last burrow
#

Anyone have any ideas why a laptop would just stop charging work a perfectly good charger? My main laptop stopped charging a few weeks ago and now my gaming laptop just shut off mid game and won't charge.

Two laptops both with working chargers tested with multimeter not charging or lighting up charger LED indicator

#

Odd they both went out within weeks of each other

swift star
#

i have a laptop 10th gen i5 if that helps, am i supposed to dust that thing?

velvet summit
worn wave
#

I would say something in the laptop just shorted out but it happening twice is extra odd

last burrow
#

Yeah...

#

I'm perplexed how 2 would go out, the gaming one was only 1.5 years old and cost about $2000

velvet summit
#

Check your outlet or try a different circuit or smth idk

last burrow
#

They had surge protection too

worn wave
#

Though tbh I'd expect the power cord to take the brunt of any weird electrical issue

last burrow
#

I have surge prot at the power box and the power strip

worn wave
#

Huh

#

Maybe just a weird coincidence then

last burrow
#

It WOULD be my luck this year

velvet summit
#

TBF most power strips have garbage surge protection
But w/ whole home surge protection that should be enough by itself

last burrow
#

Going to learn how to test the motherboard on a old craptop and see what I can find

#

They're both supplied proper power just no charge or LED indicator

#

Hella bummed about the gaming laptop -_-

#

Between jobs and mot much work here, worst time to lose both laptops lol

icy ore
#

trying to convince people that are hardcore intel to not get the 285k is just the most fun ive had in months

velvet summit
#

I would be hugely surprised if somehow both died for no reason because.... Well....
That would be certainly be inauspicious

#

Must be a ghost

last burrow
#

Yeah I feel the same but what..

velvet summit
#

Who did you offend in your past life

last burrow
#

Some one with a lot of power apparently

#

I'm nervous because I need a new laptop but don't want to lose another gaming laptop

#

Ill try a new outlet and a different surge protector, but when my gaming laptop died it was just out of no where turned off full charged mid game

#

Then never charged again, nothing else like tv monitors or anything we're effected

velvet summit
#

Try plugging directly into the wall, in a different outlet to test ig

#

Also TBF most power adapters are made to be able to handle some minor power surges, so with your whole home surge protector, you don't even need to use an additional surge protector

last burrow
#

Other laptop I was using adjustable charger with a loose fitting and it gradually stopped charging off and on adjusting the plug I assumed it was just loose but new OEM charger isn't charging it

#

And the fitting is perfect

#

I tried all the outlets

#

They're getting power fine via multimeter test

#

Laptops just aren't using it

#

I'm a hardware noob so lots of trading

#

Reading

quick ruin
#

i know nothing about computers

rancid juniper
#

eh too expensive

velvet summit
#

Honestly, not the worst value for a prebuilt I've ever seen, though with that price you can easily get a 4080s while still getting aesthetic parts if you diy

rancid juniper
#

^^^

fervent stump
#

This is going to be me

quick ruin
#

i have no idea what any of that means but its good right

swift star
#

how tough am i? i play minecraft on the pentium 4 net burst if i could i could just run this under this under some hot water tldr

quick ruin
quick ruin
fervent stump
quick ruin
fervent stump
#

Read what I said

quick ruin
velvet summit
rancid juniper
#

how good is skytech?

velvet summit
#

And if you ever get stuck with anything, you can always ask questions here

swift star
#

doesnt a windows key cost 100 dollers?

quick ruin
velvet summit
rancid juniper
#

not too bad i think

storm narwhal
#

iirc skytech was aight

rancid juniper
#

nice

velvet summit
swift star
#

want an iron steel side panel?

velvet summit
#

I prefer steel side panels

#

Won't break from tile

rancid juniper
#

how bout this then

swift star
#

no ones happy till you get that for 300 dollers

rancid juniper
#

true

velvet summit
#

Average day in pcmr:

icy ore
# rancid juniper how bout this then

it isnt bad but if you wouldn't mind refurb, bacca sent this one the other day https://www.ebay.com/itm/266989280998?

rancid juniper
#

dayum

#

wow

velvet summit
swift star
#

the black friday sales are about to start!

rancid juniper
#

bro can definitely get this

rancid juniper
velvet summit
#

Real

swift star
#

but do you need a new mouse pad 😮

velvet summit
#

Should've increased the price by 400

swift star
#

when im alone working in the day sleeping at night i think about mgs what a thrill

#

did you tourge your mother board down to proper nanmeter spec, why did you ask me to lol

#

yall are cops so i be back maybe idk

safe cape
fervent stump
#

What are the exact cables used here for rgb because the part without looks like normal cables

velvet summit
#

Possibly strimmers

#

Or some clone

steel talon
#

So

#

Will the $10 gift card

velvet summit
#

Don't bother looking for the strimmers since those are like $100 each

steel talon
#

Go back on sale?

steel talon
#

Hey

#

U can stack

#

Gift cards right?

fervent stump
fervent stump
#

What gpu?

rancid juniper
gilded kraken
rancid juniper
opaque sedge
opaque sedge
fervent stump
#

Oh

opaque sedge
#

Instead of that horrendous 12vhpwr

#

I cut my finger trying to remove it

storm narwhal
#

just plug it in all the way

opaque sedge
worn wave
# worn wave UE5 is cool in theory but 💩 in actuality (so far)
Vex

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2: Heart of Chornobyl just released and it is built on Unreal Engine 5. UE5 used to be this super exciting thing, because we knew the games using it would look quite incredible. So many studios are switching to using it partially because of this reason. However, as time has gone on... UE5 has started to become a bad omen.

This do...

▶ Play video
opaque sedge
#

Ue5 games making me wish i got a 4080 super instead PepeHands

velvet summit
gilded kraken
#

1440p ultra setting too

rancid juniper
#

how i'd do it is set game to low graphics settings and carefully change each setting while checking the framerate

opaque sedge
#

The 3080 is like 5 years old right?

rancid juniper
#

thats when i can tell which setting is the heavy hitter

gilded kraken
opaque sedge
gilded kraken
#

wiating for the 5080 to replace it

opaque sedge
upper hawk
rancid juniper
tranquil pebble
#

nuts and bolts

upper hawk
#

Riot apparently will switch to ue5 next year

#

With valorant

rancid juniper
opaque sedge
#

Might be game dependent tho

#

Probably better for vram heavy games tho

rancid juniper
#

it will be funny if crysis 4 ends up being less resource intensive than most UE5 games

opaque sedge
#

Which will be ue5 games cept a select few like bmw

#

Apparently witcher 4 is gonna be ue5 too

#

Red engine is in the grave now

#

The community treated it too harshly…

rancid juniper
#

wild that many companies are dumping their own engine

#

dont care about bethesda tho, their engine is trash

#

only upside is modding support

opaque sedge
#

Modding reminds me

upper hawk
#

Valorant is currently on ue4

opaque sedge
#

Is skyrim really bad at vanilla?

#

Or raw

worn wave
#

Whatever engine they used for the pc enhanced version of Metro exodus 😍

rancid juniper
#

valorant uses UE4?

#

i thought they used their own engine

#

tf?

opaque sedge
worn wave
rancid juniper
#

dang i guess i forgot

#

lmfao

opaque sedge
#

Apparently Fortnite uses unreal engine 5

rancid juniper
#

its been a long time since i last played

opaque sedge
#

And considering the simple graphics

rancid juniper
#

valorant didn't take alot when it used UE4, UE5 on the other hand...

#

🤔

opaque sedge
#

Hmmm

#

Does ue5 like x3d?

worn wave
opaque sedge
worn wave
rancid juniper
#

(MODIFIED)

worn wave
rancid juniper
#

yea

#

ran great and looked superb

#

can run a toaster

upper hawk
#

With x3d cpus being available every $150 very likely to own one anyway

steel talon
#

newegg is just the goat they enabled me to save from both taxes and get a cheaper discount because of their gift cards discounts

worn wave
#

I can run apex at mostly medium settings, native 1440p, TAA OFF, and still get 165fps. Some dips when there's a lot going on but no stutters.

steel talon
#

thank you newegg

upper hawk
#

$150 5700x3d
$300 7600x3d
$480 9800x3d

opaque sedge
#

Also the epic or max quality preset is wild 💀

#

In stalker 2

nocturne flicker
upper hawk
nocturne flicker
#

It is pretty much always the same traps, most of the time it consists of similar enemies and etc

opaque sedge
#

Ic

#

And u could get tired of that

#

Like clash of clans

upper hawk
nocturne flicker
#

Also the storylines can be a bit eh. The civil war imo is very barebones

opaque sedge
upper hawk
#

When we will look back at games like cyberpunk with gpus of 2030 we will appreciate that things were pushed and the game keeps up visually

nocturne flicker
#

Especially after experiencing some of the mods trying to restore concepts and cut content of the Civil War content

opaque sedge
unreal trail
#

👀

opaque sedge
#

I will be crying again in 2030 while going thru my dusty old steam library

#

Our choomba

nocturne flicker
#

I'll be crying over the fact that by 2030 I still wouldn't have played half of my library derpyBlob

opaque sedge
#

Known as sales

nocturne flicker
#

All the money wasted

#

Tbf bundles bloat the game count

#

Before Humble Bundle became bleh

opaque sedge
#

You could gift the keys to your kids or smth

#

Or other young family members

nocturne flicker
#

I am the youngest and won't have kids. Gonna have to give my library to my sister's eventual kiddies when I am old and grumpier

worn wave
#

New steam family sharing is pretty sweet

opaque sedge
#

Pretty messed up

unreal trail
#

I play my games as I buy them

opaque sedge
#

And i thought those inheritance stories in movies and tv shows were bad

opaque sedge
nocturne flicker
#

Steam Wills

opaque sedge
#

Lol

#

“Dont you dare delete my elden ring ng+100 save”

icy ore
unreal trail
#

I do have quite a few unfinished games though

nocturne flicker
#

I give to her my Steam account, under the condition that she has to keep all my foil trading cards and the same profile picture derpyBlob

opaque sedge
#

With barely any performance difference

nocturne flicker
#

It is marginally better at a lower MSRP

#

Meant to appease the value minded reviewers by throwing them a tiny bone

tranquil pebble
#

4080 is actually a very good deal for specific use cases. Gaming isn't one of them

idle nexus
#

heck I've had a stupid windows update pending

#

& I tried restart & shutdown

#

but neither will actually apply the update

#

I think it's because I created a local account without a password lol

idle nexus
tranquil pebble
#

this is what AI gen is good for

proud jackal
pseudo patrol
#

my pc runs so much cooler with chimney airflow

#

the previous configuration I did months ago was not good lol

tranquil pebble
#

my 6900 xt runs cooler under full load than my 5700 xt did idle lol

idle nexus
#

waterblocks are heart

wraith fern
#

nskibidiuh

idle nexus
#

86.8C hotspot max; 69.8C GPU; & 78C memory junction at 874w lol

worn wave
#

tbf that's the spike power

opaque sedge
idle nexus
#

HOF

worn wave
#

I assume the 422w to the right is the average draw?

opaque sedge
#

If my rig consumed that much breakers would be going off here

idle nexus
#

yes

#

Furmark Donut

#

4k benchmark

opaque sedge
#

The aib

idle nexus
#

yes

dusk knot
#

Hhmmmm

rancid juniper
idle nexus
#

1kw PL

rancid juniper
#

this guy making his pc into a microwave

opaque sedge
rancid juniper
#

+5fps

idle nexus
opaque sedge
#

Jesus

opaque sedge
#

I’m assuming you have a 20A?

pseudo patrol
#

not bad

rancid juniper
#

4080...

#

4080!?!?!?!?!?

opaque sedge
#

At that rate with future hardware would you have to upgrade your home electrical system too 😭

pseudo patrol
#

raaaaahhhh

idle nexus
idle nexus
rancid juniper
idle nexus
#

it's more efficient anyway

pseudo patrol
rancid juniper
#

never

#

use

#

userbenchmark

pseudo patrol
#

not making a pro account

#

lmao

#

it was better back then

#

when it was free

rancid juniper
#

Userbenchmark is built on lies and hard cope

#

hard cope is an understatement

opaque sedge
pseudo patrol
#

I figured when I tried to add new components on the compare portion of the site and half the products were unidentified lol

rancid juniper
#

they are unhinged

#

9800x3d review for example

#

most notable one: 7800x3d

opaque sedge
#

When do u guys think pcie 5.0 will be the standard?

pseudo patrol
#

I can't imagine how much ratings went downhill after those releases

rancid juniper
#

we already got PCIE 5.0 boards

opaque sedge
#

Rip b650

#

Damn you microcenter

#

The b650-e is just a b650 btw

rancid juniper
#

ngl im kinda surprised that my z690 board supports PCIE 5.0

#

i thought it can do 4.0 max

opaque sedge
pseudo patrol
#

my old cpu was dried lol

rancid juniper
opaque sedge
opaque sedge
#

Lucky

pseudo patrol
#

I have no idea how much dust got behind my aio

devout forum
#

PCIE is backwards compatible tbf

rancid juniper
#

ye

devout forum
#

You should be able to put a 4.0 drive in it

opaque sedge
rancid juniper
#

honestly i'd be slightly wary of the x8 gpus

opaque sedge
#

Oh wait for the drives

devout forum
#

Of course it will

pseudo patrol
devout forum
#

Both GPU and SSD will

#

That's like the whole point lol

pseudo patrol
#

mine has 4.0 and 5.0

rancid juniper
#

iirc, installing two pcie 5.0 nvmes under the same controller might limit the pcie slot to x8

#

is that true?

devout forum
#

You'd only get PCIE 4.0 bandwidth but it would work

opaque sedge
#

So if i ever upgrade to a 5.0 gpu i wont need a new mobo?

rancid juniper
devout forum
#

So you can install 4 under a controller with 16 lanes and get full performance

idle nexus
rancid juniper
#

chill

opaque sedge
#

Reminds me i only have one nvme slot left

opaque sedge
idle nexus
devout forum
idle nexus
opaque sedge
devout forum
#

Elaborate

rancid juniper
#

one moment

rancid juniper
#

I saw this diagram from the X870 AORUS ELITE WIFI7 manual @devout forum

#

look at top left

#

i think it only affects the second PCIE slot

devout forum
#

Looks like everyone is getting the 4 lanes

opaque sedge
#

I was shocked when i learned that that data communication in a pc is all related to pcie kekw

#

Initially i thought it was just gpu related

rancid juniper
#

crazy how much the mobo chipset controls

opaque sedge
#

And then

devout forum
#

But of course those lanes are going to be slower

opaque sedge
#

Turns out it was everything

rancid juniper
opaque sedge
#

Everything is pcie

#

Do mobile or arm chips use pcie?

#

Or is it different for them?

rancid juniper
#

what

#

i dont think so

devout forum
#

Well laptop ARM kinda has to

opaque sedge
#

Imagine if phone chips do

devout forum
#

Since PC devices need PCIE

wicked oriole
#

Guys is ot safe if I oc'd my gpu and undervolted my cpu?

devout forum
#

But that's a specific case

opaque sedge
devout forum
#

What GPU is it?

wicked oriole
#

4080 super

devout forum
#

Yeah I wouldn't bother honestly

#

It's already the most efficient GPU out there

wicked oriole
#

I gained like 8ish fps, got a pretty good score on 3d demo so I'm happy

devout forum
#

You're not gonna gain much by OCing

#

And it's already sipping voltage

wicked oriole
#

Gains are gains lol and it was more for 4k is all I did

opaque sedge
#

Trying to look one up for phones

devout forum
#

Block diagram iirc

wicked oriole
#

Realized it's only okay in 4k lol the oc helped, but frame gen is kicking my ass

devout forum
#

What's your CPU?

opaque sedge
#

Holy fu-

wicked oriole
#

7800x3d, the undervolt was clutch because it put my clock speed to 5050mhz

devout forum
#

Huh

#

Interesting

#

Tmyk

opaque sedge
#

Isnt the boost clock alr at 5ghz?

devout forum
#

P much

wicked oriole
#

That was w pbo on, and negative fan curve to 30

devout forum
#

I don't really see a point to undervolting a 7800X3D personally, but each to their own

#

I mean a point other than benchmark scores

opaque sedge
wicked oriole
#

Def helped me out with my modded minecraft lmao

opaque sedge
#

Are u testing this on?

wicked oriole
#

After i set it to that I got a pretty good run in hogwarts legacy, no crashing

opaque sedge
#

Cuz on benchmarks my own 7800x3d reaches 5ghz without even having to enable pbo

wicked oriole
#

Gpu is now at 2850 mhz, and like 12000 memory

devout forum
#

I

#

Nope, not going there

velvet summit
wicked oriole
#

My would only clock at 4200 iirc, that's what my MB said was all it could do

devout forum
idle nexus
#

dis good?

opaque sedge
devout forum
velvet summit
velvet summit
wicked oriole
#

Gpu would only clock at 2535 iirc, i didn't gain much from the gpu OC

devout forum
#

Cronch

idle nexus
devout forum
#

Wtf

opaque sedge
rancid juniper
opaque sedge
proud jackal
idle nexus
#

tested daily too. I can squeeze 6400c28 & 2200FCLK

proud jackal
opaque sedge
#

I think I’m illiterate

proud jackal
#

we know.

rancid juniper
#

burned

idle nexus
wicked oriole
#

Also, could my oc cause issues w frame gen or is frame gen just bad rn

idle nexus
#

when CAMM.2 takes over, I'm gonna miss being able to get A-die dirt cheap & it being really good relative to anything else

#

these Klev DIMMs are like $80/each now I think

wicked oriole
#

Cause I did have a bit of screen tearing only w frame gen on and i did the whole 9 yards in troubleshooting that besides reverting my OC

proud jackal
idle nexus
#

they're 5600c46-46-46 XMP but A-die is A-die

opaque sedge
#

What are gonna use it for?