general-chat

[cedar acorn]

And imma dm you this is honestly a steal

[sinful blade]

Gotcha.

[craggy shoal]

It would be weird to make payments on an item you don't have lol

[mortal grail]

Comes with the gene

Gene and apex

I have a 2nd one somewhere

[frosty sinew]

I've never understood why people finance stuff that cheap

Like financing something that is like under 2k seems dumb

If you don't have 2k at once then I don't think you should be buying it

You are just paying extra

[pliant berry]

Sometimes I’d finance work equipment as long as I can pay it with income and still have cash in accounts. That way I don’t have to worry about putting a significant dent in my bank account just in case I had an emergency or had to replace an expensive piece of equipment asap

[frosty sinew]

That's fair

I was more talking about if you don't have the money

[devout forum]

henlo there all

[velvet summit]

i wouldnt finance anything under like

5k

if you're that strapped for cash that you cant afford 5k then it probably isnt worth financing

[mortal grail]

I was young once

Don't finance

I learned my lesson

[velvet summit]

felix was born a man

making 50k a year from the womb

[mortal grail]

Interest from APR is actually disgusting

[velvet summit]

10k more each year

[mortal grail]

Here's a real sobering point of nuance

You can get the money now, enjoy the thing a few months early

In that few months, you probably pay most of the value you were saving up for (if you were dedicated)

In that same few months, the technology gets faster to the point where you're already losing out

Or sales get cheaper to the point you make a loss on a fast purchase

But this is where the honeymoon ends

Cos for the next few months, or longer

You're still paying it off

Saving up is the way to go

Or at the very least, have saving you can reliably fall back on, and do like a pay in 4

That way you don't miss a payment, you have a buffer and redundancy

In case anything happens

We've seen here, in real time what financing pc stuff can do to a person

[velvet summit]

truly the smart way to pay with credit/financing is to never spend more than you have (with pretty much the only exception being a house because 99% of people probably can't afford a house without a mortgage)

[unreal trail]

[mortal grail]

Mortgages are set up to be paid reliably over a "lifetime" though

By design

So yes, this is a perfectly compatible statement

Unlike my linux troubles

[velvet summit]

nobody here would know what you're talking about

[mortal grail]

I don't think tbh

Anyone here knows nearly enough about linux period

💀

[velvet summit]

what if linus was in this server

[mortal grail]

My issue is obscure and uncommon

Linus tech tippers?

[velvet summit]

linus torvalds or whatever his last name was

[mortal grail]

Oh linus "screw nvidia" torvalds

[velvet summit]

lmao

[mortal grail]

Man if I had him helping me I'd pay for linux ngl

[velvet summit]

[sweet phoenix]

Bitcoin might break 100k soon

Almost at 93k

[mortal grail]

Oh should I swap my rigs over to bitcoin now

[velvet summit]

i dont see my neighbors

[rigid sinew]

false, my neighbor has them delivered to her house

i see the milk out every week

[velvet summit]

damn

[tranquil pebble]

simulated simulation emulated in an emulator

[velvet summit]

they be milking

[mortal grail]

Implying I watch my neighbours like a hawk

[rigid sinew]

imo its nasty they leave their milk out that long but who am i to judge

[dusk knot]

Damnit

We don't live in a simulation

[tranquil pebble]

just wait until we get to a point of making the equivalent of transistors smaller than an atom

[mortal grail]

[dusk knot]

One day

[mortal grail]

The neighbours groceries will become atoms?

[proud jackal]

Why

[thorn totem]

Thanks

[frosty sinew]

Yeah

[chrome mirage]

I just had a scam caller try and switch accents in the middle of a sentence.

[devout forum]

Yo that's wild

[chrome mirage]

He started sounding like Hans Gruber from Die Hard when he tried to do an American accent

[devout forum]

Ouch

[sinful blade]

I made a joke a few weeks ago about you buying new parts

“The day I get a pc is the day Theo will stop buying every new part”

[proud jackal]

So you got a PC?

[sinful blade]

Nah
The guy sold it right out from under me

Literally a few minutes before I was going to leave, I got a notification that he sold it and left the conversation

[lone mango]

Make the first couple payments and stop

[pseudo patrol]

Amazon blackfriday starts on 21st

[zealous crypt]

can someone build me a pc that gives best gaming performance using te 7800x3d

[proud jackal]

What's the budget

[zealous crypt]

2k

i already have a 4070 gpu so don’t need to add a gpu

[empty tide]

Well there's a big chunk of budget back on the menu

[proud jackal]

RHB

RHB*

RGB**

[pliant berry]

ah yes rhb

[median frigate]

Guys help this young man out with a build ^^^

[median frigate]

.

[wind quail]

in the US?

[zealous crypt]

yes

[wind quail]

and do you alraedy have the 7800x3d?

[mental yoke]

does anyone know of any good prebuilts I'm too lazy to build one but just wanna play rust and get lots of fps

[nocturne flicker]

Ah yes, just what it needs to be relevant. Become Switch but Xbox

[rancid juniper]

It's definitely going to be an amd powered handheld, hopefully it's nothing like the handheld ps used for their ps5

The question remains if it's going to be a fully custom apu just like the steamdeck

[nocturne flicker]

The question is will it be as versatile as current handheld PCs or will it just be a digital Xbox in your hands

[rancid juniper]

True

If it's as strong as the series s or better it may have a chance here

Gotta be priced well

[nocturne flicker]

Unless they are going full PSP and will be making unique games for it, which I doubt, I dunno how well it'd sell if it was just a pure Xbox

[rancid juniper]

I fully doubt Xbox is going for the "exclusivity" approach

They probably might cherry pick games that CAN run on the handheld I suppose

[nocturne flicker]

Maybe dual boot handheld. You can run it in Xbox mode or toggle Windows mode and it becomes a PC

[wanton elbow]

I need urgent help! My monitor glitched out. What channel should I go to ?

Or maybe here ?

I'm not sure how to fix this. I replugged my hdmi cable and electric cable

I'm not sure if this is internal monitor problem or cable problem. I replugged my hdmi cable before and it temporarily fixed it. Now it's consistent

[worthy tapir]

id try a different cable first

[wanton elbow]

I used a different hdmi and it didn't work. It might be my DC in cable

Is replacing the DC in able a possible solution?

[icy ore]

Ah that blows

[tranquil pebble]

EGS broke the wishlist on my Steam account by causing a game I had wishlisted to be pulled before release

absolutely not amused

[tranquil pebble]

Sony tried something like this with PS3 then backed off pretty quick.

my guess is that game publishers will simply not tolerate that

[civic ravine]

Hi, where can I ask about technical broken stuff?

[velvet summit]

Try a different monitor

E.g. a tv

[tranquil pebble]

worst idea ever: a CRT-based VR headset

[storm narwhal]

Break your neck

[tranquil pebble]

you would need a scifiesque powered exoskeleton to use it

[misty sparrow]

^ BTW if you wanna take advantage of this stuff, use camelcamelcamel or another price tracker

what companies will do is raise prices right before black friday, only to have the prices drop to their original price when black friday comes so it looks like a deal, but actually isn't

[sinful blade]

Budget?

[sinful blade]

#building-and-recc-chat

[fair onyx]

Dude, watching arcane after I aesthetic tuned my QD OLED, it looks absolutely MENTAL next to my IPS lmao

It's not even the slightest bit close. In person, it looks soooo bad lmao

[mental yoke]

2-3k

[gilded kraken]

after a year, you have mike tysons neck

[tranquil pebble]

this is why we cant have nice things

[worn wave]

Don't forget the black-friday-specific models that are similar but downgraded

[lone mango]

I feel bad for evga

the stock for this psu i got is gone

i think the company is dwindling

[nocturne flicker]

It has been for a while. They basically said it was soon after exiting gpus

[lone mango]

Yeah but even the psus are disappearing

I just dont understand why they aren't going with amd

Yeah the margins are still low but at least the amd founder cards are still worse than aib

[nocturne flicker]

AMD doesn't have as much market volume, meaning they will be fighting for less potential money against already established aib companies

[lone mango]

true...

I think it really is over for them

[paper verge]

for amd?

[lone mango]

Do you think it wouldn't have been as bad if they announced they were going with amd when they first stopped making nvidia cards

[lone mango]

nah

evga

[paper verge]

ryzen 9000 is dog water i heard

is it true?

[opaque sedge]

Ah nostalgia https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/s/i1z5bB12Wg

[paper verge]

zen5

[lone mango]

If you do some cope with power limits it can be a good perf increase but they went too far toward the efficiency route

[opaque sedge]

Not exactly its just barely a performance uplift over the 7000 and the 7000 is overall better value

[lone mango]

It is a few percent faster while consuming like 60% of the power

[paper verge]

man wtf was the ceo saying

[nocturne flicker]

They'd've had to have gone into negotiation with AMD well before leaving the GPU market in order for that to have happened

[paper verge]

fastest consumer cpu

[nocturne flicker]

9800x3d good though. Some breakout fps in games and the frequency boost lifted lows a bit

They just don't exist on the market because they are being bought instantly

[lone mango]

I saw some cases where there were huge low increases

Like 20-30%

[nocturne flicker]

Yus

[paper verge]

what abt intels new cpus

how are they doing

[lone mango]

Imo not worth upgrading tho if you already got a new cpu

[nocturne flicker]

Bleh by all realistic metrics

[lone mango]

If you think zen 5 is not that good intel is doing worse

[paper verge]

yeah i heard it has the most expensive $/fps ratio between cpus

or smth like that

[nocturne flicker]

Except maybe some specific use cases for 285k

[lone mango]

285k is good if you spent 3 trillion dollars on the fastest ram to cope with its latency increase

[paper verge]

im happy i didnt get amd stocks atleast lol

might get some now though idk

[lone mango]

Should have invested in amd when zen came out

Worst mistake man

[paper verge]

2017?

[lone mango]

Yeah like 17/18

[paper verge]

i had my money in a robotics company at that time

it did pay off though

got about 10000% increase

[lone mango]

[mental yoke]

does anyone know of any good prebuilts I'm too lazy to build one but just wanna play rust and get lots of fps 2k/3k

[lone mango]

what resolution

oh nvm you said the price this time

[random osprey]

its for 720p gaming

[lone mango]

[random osprey]

all funds go to rgb

[frosty sinew]

if my corsair ram is faulty after using it for a while

what would that be undre in support

rma?

[random osprey]

ye if its actually faulty

[frosty sinew]

werll xmp isnt on

and it still bsod

[proud jackal]

@fresh nova they are sending me replacement screw standoff and part the thread is stuck in because you can remove it once you take out c clamp

[lone mango]

https://www.ibuypower.com/store/amd-ryzen-7-max-gaming-pc

[tacit geode]

wassup

[sinful blade]

Avoid ibuypower

XoticPCs even rips you off less than them

I’m thinking of the right guys right

Cyberpower is the good “power” named one?

If it’s not
Just ignore me as per usual

@sweet phoenix did you get the 2week free nitro trial yet

[dusk knot]

hm

prebulits

[opaque sedge]

Lol

Almost a pure performance 4090 build pricing

[tacit geode]

just get a hp prebuilt office pc

perfect for gamin

[lone mango]

I know

prebuilts are brutal

[lone mango]

Yeah idk prebuilts

[sour falcon]

Avoid Skytech also

[sweet phoenix]

Nah

[sinful blade]

Sky tech, I buy power, xoticPCs, Corsair, Alienware, stgaubron, CLX, NZXT, and apex are all avoid prebuilts off the top of my head

[sour falcon]

Real

[sweet phoenix]

It depends

Skytech nzxt and cyberpower can be decent

Rest I've never seen well priced or good quality

[sinful blade]

Stg has always been absolute garbage

Always so cryptic with listings

https://www.amazon.com/STGAubron-Desktop-Computer-Bluetooth-Keyboard/dp/B0BK539D4V/

unlisted ddr type, cpu, brand for anything with it, storage, and gpu is random pick of 580s

[velvet summit]

what's nine plus ten

[fresh nova]

See they're good company.

[sinful blade]

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/JHFVYoc0bcc?si=RKwq4zTO0uV7onSA

[sinful blade]

I’m going to abuse Star Trek stickers for the next 2 weeks

[fresh nova]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

Goals

[high star]

would it be inadvisable to charge my 15w speaker with a "max 65w" laptop charger

[wary fjord]

u wont magically charge 65w

xD

[high star]

but like is it bad for th battery

or does it likle adjust

[wary fjord]

it adjust

[high star]

okay

[wary fjord]

just get a proper charger next time

[plain stone]

how much can I sell a 1050ti for?

from asus, single fan

$30? lol

[wary fjord]

30 bucks

[high star]

triple intake

single fan

[plain stone]

hell yeah i'll just sell it

okay on that note might as well just give context

his budget is $40-50 and is interested in my gpu, i'm not gonna ask for a higher price but yeah selling my gpu was a sudden choice

i've planned on selling the 1050ti when i get an RTX card but from that no one is ever gonna buy it so since this guy wants to buy it i want to get rid of it

i already have enough money for an RTX card (still not sure which to get) but yeah it's all sudden

is this a more financially sound decision, although if i sell it i probably won't have a gpu for like 2-3 weeks yet

[icy ore]

if someone is wanting a 1050ti id get rid of it while i could lol

[proud jackal]

they are sending me replacement parts

[sinful blade]

What’s your budget

[plain stone]

last time i planned it was 12k Php, $200 nowadays

holy crap 10k used to be $200

i can increase to 15k and that's the max ($250)

rx6600xt perhaps?

the rtx cards i've been seeing here are only 3050 for 200

[wary fjord]

mahal parin sa lazada xD

[gilded kraken]

Chrome now crashes if you use a adblocker. So Librewolf is now my new best friend

[craggy shoal]

Ditching Chrome for Librewolf is crazy work

[plain stone]

economy here is in shambles fr

[wary fjord]

no becaause its not local item

xD

the larger the dollar the more we pay xD

[gilded kraken]

actually it did the most 1:1 import of everything from chrome ive seen yet

[plain stone]

since when is anything ever local to here anymore lmao

but yeah @sinful blade $250 budget

5600xt for $120 2nd hand

it's from a guy i know who works in a microcenter equivalent

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/aVStjLBU42k?si=uEwuJvNJtABDp2o6

[fresh nova]

I forgot what having a gf & doing dates felt like

$60 on dinner + $60 at movies.... 💀

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-penacony-honkai-star-rail-clockie-no-money-gif-14673244072619990643

She seems nice tho, uses a lot of "we" & "us" words which is always a good sign.

[tranquil pebble]

VR resolution be like

[mortal grail]

@rancid juniper AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-ten-goodjob-nice-one-gif-5046277

[mortal grail]

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-9800x3d-cpu-am5-socket-burns-out-both-physically-damaged/

AAAAAAA

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

AAAHHHH

[nocturne flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/smiles-frustrated-sad-emoji-gif-25369804

[mortal grail]

AAAAAAAHHHHH

[frosty sinew]

annnnd it bluescreened again

[rancid juniper]

ah, new wave of POPCORN

[frosty sinew]

flip

[rancid juniper]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[rancid juniper]

nah 30

[mortal grail]

I BOUGHT ONE

HELP

[rancid juniper]

what the same mobo?

[nocturne flicker]

I was going to buy one but I am currently broke. Being poor ftw

[frosty sinew]

like i have to run it at 2133 mhx

or else its non stop bsod

ITS 3200 RAM

WHY

[frosty sinew]

that is not a LETTTTTTTTTS GOOOOOO moment

[mortal grail]

The corsairs right

[frosty sinew]

yeah

makes me sad

[rancid juniper]

OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[mortal grail]

Not surprised lmao

[frosty sinew]

i put the other 2 sticks in

and it seems more stable now?

idfk why

[frosty sinew]

its finnne, i buy ram tommorow

[mortal grail]

💀

[frosty sinew]

i paid 160

for that

and its trash

[mortal grail]

The true corsair experience

[frosty sinew]

i contacted corsair, if i can get an rma

then i will sell it as new

someone elses problem

[pseudo patrol]

thx I appreciate it, I had a full pc list on Amazon and wondered how the price flow was going to end up so I can compare from Newegg

[mortal grail]

Lol

[rancid juniper]

before i install a cpu onto a new board id def get the latest bios, then tweak voltages to an appropriate value afterwards. It might be an error on the user's part i suppose or the fact that the mobo had bad voltages applied at default

[mortal grail]

I'm gonna run mine power capped

85W

No risks

[rancid juniper]

seems good enough

[pseudo patrol]

that’s how mine is

[mortal grail]

Screw the higehr tdp

[frosty sinew]

some bs

[pseudo patrol]

which is why I’m upgrading

[mortal grail]

It's a new version of the tech

No risks

[rancid juniper]

i powercapped my gpu

and undervolted my cpu aggressively

very happy

[frosty sinew]

why corsair

[rancid juniper]

pc is quiet n cool

[frosty sinew]

you gotta make everytrhing but ram good

[mortal grail]

Cos they got you to buy based on the pretty lights

[frosty sinew]

like ur psus are dope

and case

[pseudo patrol]

I’m getting the dominator instead of vengeance

[mortal grail]

Literally anything with corsair RGB on it sucks

[pseudo patrol]

google said it was better

[frosty sinew]

isnt that corsair...

[pseudo patrol]

ye

[mortal grail]

Like it's no distinction between anything else

[frosty sinew]

uhhh

[rancid juniper]

C**sair

[frosty sinew]

felix save him

[mortal grail]

ANYTHING with corsair rgb just sucks

[pseudo patrol]

I had Corsair for years I can’t leave it

[frosty sinew]

i am

[mortal grail]

Quality and performance

[frosty sinew]

i was on crucial

no issues

[mortal grail]

Both terrible

[pseudo patrol]

which ram u upgrading to

I might have to dip

[frosty sinew]

im getting gskill

[mortal grail]

The only decent things out of Corsair have zero rgb

[pseudo patrol]

I was gonna get the ddr5 2x48

[frosty sinew]

i was talkign to some others felix and they said that gskill is good, and i can get better timings

which for 10 bucks is worth it apparently

cl16 instead of 18

[pseudo patrol]

ooo

I’ll have to do som more research

[frosty sinew]

i have ddr4 lol

[mortal grail]

I wouldn't really say it's worth 10

[pseudo patrol]

I have ddr4 rn lol

[lone mango]

[frosty sinew]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rancid juniper]

love community notes

[mortal grail]

Thing is, contrary to what others say, motherboards all train to the same relative ram speed

All the sub timings play in irregardless of the xmp

And they all end up pretty similar since the subtimings have greater impact

[rancid juniper]

aight amd where new driver?

[mortal grail]

It'll only be a small uptick from an FCLK increase

Not really worth 10 imo

Maybe 2

Lol

[frosty sinew]

#general-chat message

[mortal grail]

He says that for a different reason

That being the ram IC's

[frosty sinew]

if its better chips

[mortal grail]

Which if you don't mess with numbers you shouldn't worry about it

[frosty sinew]

then worth it to me

[mortal grail]

Really gonna be a minimal difference

[frosty sinew]

but stability on xmp

if they are better binned

[rancid juniper]

wait bro installed on the opposite side?

[frosty sinew]

would it be better?

[rancid juniper]

what

[mortal grail]

Be different manufacturers altogether is equally as likely

It's worth it if you know exactly the ram chip in the kit

[frosty sinew]

any way to find out

[mortal grail]

But G.Skill uses multiple chips in 3600 bins

Nope

Buy and look at the code

[frosty sinew]

well shoot

[mortal grail]

Lol

[frosty sinew]

i stg im gonna lose my crap if this is unstable

[fresh nova]

Wut

[mortal grail]

You won't know until it arrives unless it's an uber premium set sold for a specifically good chip

G.Skill* 3600 often is JJR nowdays

[frosty sinew]

newegg does reterns right?

[mortal grail]

Yeah should do

[frosty sinew]

as long as they dont suck idrc

[dusk knot]

Ofc

[mortal grail]

Check the article first

[frosty sinew]

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-ddr4-3600/p/N82E16820232906

cant be worse than corsair

[mortal grail]

Expensive af

[pseudo patrol]

I can’t wait to see how much faster ddr5 6200is gonna be

[mortal grail]

More expensive than the fastest ddr5 you can buy, that trident kit

[frosty sinew]

yeah ik

[mortal grail]

You may as well go next gen for that price man

You could buy the same kit off fbmp for $30

[frosty sinew]

i doubt it but ill look

[mortal grail]

I can basically promise that

[pseudo patrol]

that’s why I’m upgrading

[mortal grail]

Lol

[frosty sinew]

i live in the middle of nowhere

[pseudo patrol]

been using ddr4 since 2020

[mortal grail]

3600 Trident Z 32gb is extremely common

[pseudo patrol]

on my same setup

[mortal grail]

And likely JJR

[pseudo patrol]

holy

[mortal grail]

That's 64gb

[frosty sinew]

that more than new lol

[pseudo patrol]

that’s more than the 96 gb I was looking at

[mortal grail]

Also not a sensible example

30usd is the normal price in NA for used 32gb DDR4

[frosty sinew]

only one within like 40km of me

[hoary zodiac]

To be fair people selling 64gb kits online are gonna mark up the price

[mortal grail]

Has been for years now

[pseudo patrol]

hopefully not on blackfriday

[hoary zodiac]

They think it's worth more but it's not

[pseudo patrol]

exactly

[hoary zodiac]

Oh no not the retailers

The marketplace sellers

[frosty sinew]

waiiit a minute

why are they on ebay

[pseudo patrol]

more money = better quality

[mortal grail]

Lol

[pseudo patrol]

sometimes people shop on eBay only

[frosty sinew]

thats corsair

[mortal grail]

That's way better

[mortal grail]

Before it sucked yeah

[frosty sinew]

no thats the cl18 stuff

[mortal grail]

Better

[frosty sinew]

https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-32gb-ddr4-3600/p/N82E16820232920

[mortal grail]

Man this is like $20USD?

[frosty sinew]

87.99

cad

62

usd

[mortal grail]

This is pretty good, shows the IC 042 code

Here we go, three good ones

Trident Z

[frosty sinew]

those are basically hte same price as new

[mortal grail]

They're not

They're 30-ish usd

30-40

[frosty sinew]

71cad compared to 87 cad

[mortal grail]

Stop including shipping it's showing shipping to Australia man

💀

[frosty sinew]

even from the us lol

[mortal grail]

Half the price of a new kit

Ya half the price

[frosty sinew]

just doxx rq

[mortal grail]

Lol

Oh I didn't see it

[frosty sinew]

good

[mortal grail]

That's almost twice the price for the same performance

[frosty sinew]

thats the lowest price

[mortal grail]

Yup

[frosty sinew]

i get if i search it up

[mortal grail]

Cos you should set condition used

[frosty sinew]

thats the lowest

[frosty sinew]

how

[mortal grail]

Idk

[frosty sinew]

whats the link

[mortal grail]

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/405351570792

[frosty sinew]

17 in shipping

thats the same price as a new kit

[mortal grail]

That's still cheaper than what you said was cheapest tho

Lol

[mortal grail]

Well yeah cos the proper deals don't last

[frosty sinew]

true but still

the cl18 kit is the same price and its new

[mortal grail]

The good deals don't last

The genuinely good ones go quick

[frosty sinew]

fair\

[mortal grail]

Ebay is not the best metric of this but I have no way of showing fbmp here

[hoary zodiac]

wtf

[frosty sinew]

nothing on marketplace

[hoary zodiac]

That's cad right?

[frosty sinew]

that was what i checked first

[mortal grail]

Mhm

[frosty sinew]

yeah thats like 5usd total

welcome to canada

[mortal grail]

What's the name of the pc trading reddit

r/hardwareswap?

[frosty sinew]

i think

[mortal grail]

You'd likely find ddr4 there

[hoary zodiac]

I was like "wait what the hell? $87 32GB DDR4 kit?"

But then I realised it's not USD

[frosty sinew]

nah

[mortal grail]

I would at least consider this way more acceptable

That's more like 58 usd

Not terrible

Much better than being more expensive than top shelf ddr5 H16A

Lol

[frosty sinew]

thats the one thats 20cad more

[mortal grail]

Ya not worth it

[rancid juniper]

no

dont buy

[mortal grail]

That small difference is enough to justify literally going to a whole new platform

[hoary zodiac]

Is TridentZ even that good in terms of the die

[frosty sinew]

well

i disagree

[hoary zodiac]

Feel like it's just the same die as the cheaper ones

[mortal grail]

Way better than Corsair

[frosty sinew]

new cpu, mobo, cooler, ram

[hoary zodiac]

At least in performance

[mortal grail]

I've shown this before

[hoary zodiac]

True

Corsair is legendarily mid

[frosty sinew]

corsh*t

5 bsod today

[mortal grail]

The difference to DDR5 has been as little as $20 on many occasions over the last couple years

[frosty sinew]

running it in xmp

[hoary zodiac]

Or it could be lpx

[mortal grail]

Is that CAD

[rancid juniper]

no

whoops

[mortal grail]

Lol

[frosty sinew]

yeah

so

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail little troubleshooting question for you

[mortal grail]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/Zrhv6h/lexar-ares-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-cl18-memory-ld4bu016g-r3600gdla

[frosty sinew]

i know the lights are dumb

but

idk

[mortal grail]

$80 CAD is about $50

[frosty sinew]

i have no reason to justift itl ol

[mortal grail]

For 3600

[hoary zodiac]

Roomba is pink now? 👀

[mortal grail]

Pretty solid

[rancid juniper]

wild

[mortal grail]

As long as it's not super complicated

[sinful blade]

What could be this problem?

[hoary zodiac]

Usually I'm not against RGB but

It's ddr4

[plain stone]

is fireforx down for you guys? i can't search anything that isn't a domain

[sinful blade]

Sounds like it’s a hdmi header issue

[plain stone]

same with edge but chrome works perfectly fine

[frosty sinew]

could be a bunch of things if its not posting

[hoary zodiac]

If it bumps up the price I'd just ditch the RGB

[mortal grail]

Posts but no display, or fails posts and has a major issue

[hoary zodiac]

It's last gen ram

[frosty sinew]

ik

[plain stone]

6600 or the xt version? (6650xt isn't available here)

[sinful blade]

What strikes me as odd as she can hear it start

[frosty sinew]

thats just the relay in the psu

[mortal grail]

Used 5700XT for 6600XT performance for almost half the price

[frosty sinew]

most use fets now whih is odd

[rancid juniper]

my 7800xt hates low voltage

[plain stone]

sure but i live in the ph so good luck trying to find myself those kinds of prices

a used 6600xt for $256

or a brand new 6600 (aisurix) for the same price

[sinful blade]

Told her unless she would ship it to me to repair, better off parting it out.

Quick, someone tag me

[mortal grail]

I have tons of PH friends cos they're in the same timezone as Aus

5700XT is cheaper there

[mortal grail]

Hi

[proud jackal]

[plain stone]

i can't find any 5700xt within my budget, those are well in the 20k price $350

[sinful blade]

I love Star Trek memeing

[mortal grail]

@plain stone You should consider a laptop in PH, those are normally the best value

Entry level acer nitros, tuf gaming, legions

[mortal grail]

60 level, 50 level mobile chips

[sinful blade]

Theo when he sees me enter chat

[plain stone]

refer to this message down

@mortal grail so you get the context

[mortal grail]

Are you looking in the used market or are you looking on like shoppee

[plain stone]

im doing both

[mortal grail]

I can find out

[plain stone]

alright please do, i'm sure you got more resources to get from

[mortal grail]

Seeingg quite a few tbh

And that's for one of the few websites I can access

[plain stone]

in all honesty i have never hearcd of carousell

[mortal grail]

They're big in singapore

It's like, gumtree but Asia

Jawa.gg?

That kind of thing

[sinful blade]

Jawa is US only unfortunately

[mortal grail]

Ya but that kind of website

Like a more simple ebay

But none of the ebay protections

More raw 2nd hand trading

[plain stone]

i don't know if i can risk that

huge huge savings but if ain't work then what's the point

[sinful blade]

Aliexpress works in PH, doesn’t it?

[mortal grail]

Well if I could access shoppee I'd probably find something more reliable

It does

[plain stone]

yeah, i haven't looked up there yet, only in the past

[sinful blade]

Check that

Not the greatest place

But might help

[plain stone]

takes months to arrive

[mortal grail]

Agree with the suggestion

[plain stone]

also it has huge deals but unfortunately i do remember now that i'm just basically spending the saved money towards the shipping fee, it goes upto $50

[hoary zodiac]

Ahhhhhhhhh

Nvidia drivers and wayland strikes again

https://tenor.com/view/head-bang-dr-cox-ugh-angry-gif-16823810

[sinful blade]

It might unfortunately be one of your only places

[hoary zodiac]

If only Radeon laptops were more prevalent

[tranquil pebble]

LTT if it was good

[plain stone]

i'll look more into it later

thank yall

[mortal grail]

Np

I've pinged some of my PH friends

I'll see if they find something

[dusk knot]

Heheheh

[dusk knot]

But is that an exaggeration?

[hoary zodiac]

I mean

AMD came back after bulldozer

There is always hope

Considering AMD's shenanigans since they've risen to the top

Intel needs to get back on their feet

[pseudo patrol]

Will AMD ever be conquered

[sinful blade]

Probably not

Their IGPUs are cracked compared to intels latest
Their gpus are beating intels
Their CPUs are beating Intels in everything

[proud jackal]

[mortal grail]

Intel's latest igpus are actually amazing

Completely slapped 890M by like 20%

[tranquil pebble]

There is a decent chance that Intel's struggles may cause them to cut their high performance graphics division entirely

[mortal grail]

Really don't think they should do that

They've had a good start, better than RDNA graphics tbh

[storm narwhal]

Pat Gelsinger or whatever sure thinks that dgpus aren't important

[mortal grail]

He also thought that of TSMC and embarrassed himself worldwide

[storm narwhal]

But he's now the CEO of intel

[mortal grail]

[storm narwhal]

He may be stupid

[mortal grail]

Oh he's smart

[north crescent]

Problem is that the top brass only ever cares about short term, never long term. Which rn short term be terrible cuz it's their second time ever actually trying

[mortal grail]

But his track record is yike

[mortal grail]

2nd gen could be actually good, Alchemist has had a good driver improvement history now

You don't really hear about the "300% performance increase" updates anymore

[north crescent]

2nd gen could be decent, but I dont see it actively beating AMD in value for most people

[mortal grail]

I don't either, but being even close to that would be great

I'm all for more competition

[sinful blade]

Which one?

[mortal grail]

I crave it so much

[mortal grail]

Lunar lake

[sinful blade]

Ah frick

I forgot about that

[mortal grail]

At 12W it slaps radeon at 15W

[mortal grail]

Turns out on die ram does a huge benefit for igpus

Who would've thought /s

[sinful blade]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-wide-eye-kids-what-confused-gif-13791024

[north crescent]

With a long term outlook ye, but short term would still only see a insanely tiny marketshare. Which kinda was my point when noting with how investors and such only care about short term, making dGPU division bad in their eyes.

[mortal grail]

Pray they hold to it

I think everyone wants them to succeed but very few want to beta test lmao

[tranquil pebble]

isnt this basically what infinity cache is?

[mortal grail]

Not really

If that was then ryzen and radeon chips would ship with DDR on die lol

Lunar lake has a ram tile

iirc

It's really high density too

So up to 32gb

[gilded kraken]

T.T my backorder has been delayed

[mortal grail]

Ok slight correction

It is on package not on die

But it does look like it uses an interconnect so I guess you could call it somewhat similar

But the IF on AMD chips is connected to the io part of a die

Whereas the intel one is to the IMC on cpu tile

So I guess somewhat similar but ultimately still very different

[opaque sedge]

Typically new gen gpu’s launch every 2 years right?

[mortal grail]

Mhm

[opaque sedge]

We’re super close to the next gen stuff

Imagine they’re as disappointing as most of the new cpus we got

(Not u 7600x3d and 9800x3d)

[mortal grail]

The consensus rn is the 5090 will be the only real interesting launch

If not the new Radeon cards giving a nice boost in RT

Need food

[hoary zodiac]

I can imagine the low end being ignored again

[mortal grail]

🥫

@plain stone I heard back, 11K is the cheapest for a 5700XT from a good source

[dusk knot]

I see this too

[opaque sedge]

The flagship launch will define their img after all i assume

[mortal grail]

Gonna be so useless to so many

💀

A 4K only gpu

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/keara-chan-girl-keyaru-redo-of-healer-anime-smug-gif-13738782364838167196

[mortal grail]

Any less you'll be cpu limited

☠️

[dusk knot]

They’re taking so long. Post a teaser on twitter already, ngreedia !!!!

[mortal grail]

Even with a 9800X3D a 4090 at 4K is still somewhat cpu bound

There are gonna be so many meme builds

Anyway food time

[dusk knot]

It must be very small

[mortal grail]

JP A.K.A just puny

[proud jackal]

@fresh nova I think the threaded nut expanded in diameter making it almost impossible to get it out of the pcie hole area.

Was able to take out the c socket fasteners and threaded nuts in the other slots

[fresh nova]

Harbor Freight

Theo

[dusk knot]

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail

The pc from earlier

It’s so bad

[dusk knot]

Ew

That's abuse

[sinful blade]

They left it in a damp area around concrete for a while

[wary fjord]

intel is not down

https://tenor.com/view/rat-cry-mouse-cutie-gif-8391713226319350655

venom is here

[pseudo patrol]

wtf is that

so much dust

it looks like mold growing

[sinful blade]

It’s rust

Corrosion too

[wary fjord]

i wont install new component on that pc without removing that gpu

xD

it might rust the other components

[hoary zodiac]

I wonder if it's possible to have a phone with an interchangable lens

[lone mango]

Ironic but true

[craggy shoal]

Cross-talk Central ahh cable management

[wary fjord]

if u want no water proofing yes it can be done

[pseudo raven]

intel will come back

their ceo is praying on twitter

[nocturne flicker]

Intel more like bintel

[pseudo raven]

family wouldnt have been able to buy this house without intel fumbling technically

bought amd loong time ago at 35

well not so long ago

[nocturne flicker]

How is best grandson doing

[pseudo raven]

💀

still not great but'

better than before

[nocturne flicker]

Will grandma finally be proud?

[pseudo raven]

probably not

he couldve bought any other chip stock

[nocturne flicker]

[pseudo raven]

and made money

hell he couldve probably bought

any stock

lol

[nocturne flicker]

I made money on Intel

Bought low, sold at 24

[pseudo raven]

dubs

all of my money is in nvidia right now

[nocturne flicker]

Well I am broke right now, so I pulled all my money from my throw money until it does something account to pay bills

[pseudo raven]

yeah my family is paying for college

[nocturne flicker]

But I made $40 off of $175. Of which I got $100 free from Schwab

[pseudo raven]

and everything else so

i got a solid

10 ish years

[pseudo raven]

aye nice

you can make decent money just moving around brokers a bit to be honest

webull was offering great money

[velvet summit]

no way

touhou dish https://youtube.com/shorts/Ib-Vb9FQ7MA?si=GB7L7EVXRw5Zbxd1

[elfin mural]

a vid not to be taken seriously about what laptop choice says about people is calling me out

i own an asus laptop

i game

i have social issues, and im easy to get along with

and im also not that good at the games i play

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StQkop9YI0o

[velvet summit]

lmao

you know what... this is me as well lmfao
well, minus a bunch of gaming peripherals technically

[elfin mural]

yeah

i also got a bit of dell user in me

hates apple, wants a macbook secretly

then again this vid is a joke

but dang why is it accurate lmao

[frigid stag]

Anyone have any updates or any new rumours on 5090

or if 4090 will get discounts

[velvet summit]

Discounts? Yeah probably
Big discounts? Probably not

[frigid stag]

i remember 3090 ti discounts were big but no one bought it so

1999-> 1100

[velvet summit]

Still quite a bit to spend on a GPU

[storm narwhal]

Its still an entire PC

[velvet summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/508562150651068416/1306553960685113364/IMG_0092.png?ex=673716b2&is=6735c532&hm=c7e2d10fee36e3941ede626133085afe117f97eea5dd4b265b4c6275f936f3ff&

[storm narwhal]

For that price you could have a thing that runs games

Opposed to one thing that you still need to spend more to run games

[gilded kraken]

they have been starving supply into nothingness for months

in order to burn whatever stock they had left

[frigid stag]

i still see so many

[gilded kraken]

still have like 3 months till announce I think

[frigid stag]

the 1 i want is 1700 so im just waiting for a lil more discount

tuf 4090

[velvet summit]

Probably won't get much cheaper than that

Unless you buy used

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-gregory-house-dr-house-dr-greg-house-dr-house-thursday-gif-14151047553194186859

[wary fjord]

They should put rog logo at the back of the display

Like apple does xD

But with rgb

Apple used to have glowing logo at the back but the display became thinner and if they add it back ... The glow on the logo will bleed thru the display

[wary fjord]

It only cost 1 kidney what stopping u from buying it

[frigid stag]

Only 20 bucks a week for 2 years

[velvet summit]

Three thousand dollars

[wary fjord]

XD

[weak cedar]

A maintenance worker at work is like that he doesn't want to build a new computer from the 1990s to 2005ish he was building every 2 to 3 years 😅

He couldn't play hitman on his pc

[devout forum]

Well this is promising for a console replacement build: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2X5FVpvqrc

TLDR it gets to 85 C stock and goes below undervolted 7800X3D when undervolted

[sage sluice]

That's awesome

[devout forum]

Keeps clocks the same while dropping power consumption

36 watt power draw playing in 4k (with a 4060 Ti)
That is really, REALLY impressive

Yo hold on AMD cooking with gas here

Undervolting somehow makes it FASTER???

[sage sluice]

Mhm

Apparently theyre being more careful with their yields

Which is insane

[devout forum]

AMD might've just nailed Intel's coffin shut

IF the 9800X3D will actually be available at MSRP (which right now it is not)

[sage sluice]

Im just gonna walk down the streets with a cardboard sign with "help i need this for my heart monitor" on it

[devout forum]

lol

[sage sluice]

Amd has really become the nvidia of cpus with these high end chips 😭

[elfin mural]

intel fumbling hard caused it

well in an extent

[mighty hazel]

Doubt

8% :o

[devout forum]

I'm not sure how that stacks up honestly

[plain stone]

yo! thank you very much i'm seeing one on carousel

[plain stone]

13k for 5700xt i'll take it(?)

dang

[frosty sinew]

How do you get a pdf invoice from a Newegg order

[velvet summit]

There should be a button

[frosty sinew]

Oh on the site?

I was looking in the email lol

[velvet summit]

I think

Can't see it on the app

Can't open the site because it keeps automatically opening the app when I type Newegg.ca

Lmao

[frosty sinew]

Lol

[proud jackal]

A new techie?

Free labor

[frosty sinew]

Ope

Hopefully Newegg ships my ram faster than the estimated date

It usually is here a couple days early

Idk if I can survive on corsair any longer

[velvet summit]

Corsair user point and laugh

Autocorrect be wild

[frosty sinew]

Hey

I learned from my mistakes

[tranquil pebble]

Curse hair

[frosty sinew]

Corsh*t

Uhh someone is having an issue with pc, I'm thinking psu but it's 1000w on 3090 and 7800x3d

[velvet summit]

"an issue"

https://tenor.com/view/discord-gif-22897697

[tranquil pebble]

average new user first posts be like

[velvet summit]

Damn it's already 9am

[frosty sinew]

Ok it just shuts down with a kernel error

[velvet summit]

Been awake for 6 hours

[frosty sinew]

They only say there is kernel-power critical error, 41 (63)

[tranquil pebble]

There are literally 100s if not thousands of things that can cause a kernel error.

kernel-power means sudden loss of power, not a BSoD

[frosty sinew]

Yeah

Exactly

Like an ocp on a psu

[tranquil pebble]

a short circuit can cause that too

[velvet summit]

Is this a new build

[frosty sinew]

No

[frosty sinew]

But why only when gaming

[velvet summit]

Hmmm

Never had this issue before? Any hardware changes?

[tranquil pebble]

sounds like a PSU issue

[frosty sinew]

Yeah

I told them to run separate stress tests

Then together

[tranquil pebble]

games tend to put a big load on the pc

[frosty sinew]

And if it fails when both are loaded

[tranquil pebble]

a subpar PSU will fail when running a load

[velvet summit]

These chairs are uncomfortable as

I'm being too hydrated

[tranquil pebble]

A huge chunk of timezones are due to the US lol

[velvet summit]

They got that aoe

Annihilate oll enemies

[plain stone]

r5 5600x and rx7600xt combo yes?

[safe cape]

yes

[tranquil pebble]

4090 and Intel Atom

[deep parcel]

How many of you all have a speaker connected to your motherboard so that when your pc boots up it makes funny beep noises?

[tranquil pebble]

that is a buzzer, not a speaker

[deep parcel]

I mean sometimes its called a speaker though

[tranquil pebble]

yeah but it is very rarely a speaker in there. Some Dells have had speakers inside the tower though and they sound awful

[deep parcel]

It doesnt have to be included onboard. You can have add on little speaker buzzers.

[tranquil pebble]

the ones used for post codes are most correctly called a buzzer

[deep parcel]

I have a few laying around just in case I need it for some motherboards.

[tranquil pebble]

They are not capable of the same audio range as a speaker. Trust me, I played Bad Apple on a buzzer.

[deep parcel]

it varies from motherboard to motherboard. But my motherboard labels it as speaker.

I know its not a true speaker

[deep parcel]

howd you play bad apple on a buzzer/speaker? lol

ah mid file while using an old player that supports pc speaker/buzzer

[velvet summit]

Buzzers aren't speakers since they're incapable of accurately reproducing sound; they're made to make a fairly narrow range of frequencies
Especially magnetic buzzers

Piezoelectric buzzers can make a wider range of frequencies but still much narrower than pretty much any speaker

Buzzers in PC's are usually piezoelectric

Somewhat more rare in PC's, are active buzzers (typically you find a passive one in a PC)

Which is only set to one tone usually

[safe cape]

@wary fjord @rancid juniper https://videocardz.com/newz/microsoft-finally-releases-windows-11-iso-for-arm-devices

[tranquil pebble]

No. Arduino.

You can connect just about anything to those

[deep parcel]

Ah neat.

I was looking into it and actually found out theres an app that can use it. Its called BaWaMi and you can set the app to use the pc speaker/buzzer.

It supports midi files

https://www.youtube.com/@MichaelsHardware found out from digging around youtube and found this channel. I was shocked when I saw how young this kid was and doing this sort of stuff.

[tranquil pebble]

midi libraries for Arduino exist too, and that was the easier way personally to do it

[upper hawk]

Embarrassing

[deep parcel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYBSNQLsBKk heres a link to the video they are referencing lol

[tranquil pebble]

I have an idea to parody this... a Mac running Xbox app saying this is an Xbox

[worthy tapir]

Average front panel connector experience

[hoary zodiac]

tfw woke up at 12am and I've just been reinstalling my os for the past 2 hours

[pliant berry]

How long does it take to reinstall os?

[hoary zodiac]

Depends on the OS

In this case it's arch so

[pliant berry]

What are you trying to install arch or something from scratch

Oh yup lmao

[hoary zodiac]

Arch is installed I'm just trying to figure out why it's not showing up on grub

Maybe I forgot to mount the efi or something stupid

[pliant berry]

Good luck 🫡

[frosty sinew]

Ram alr shipped lol

[hoary zodiac]

Ok screw it I'm gonna nuke the EFI partition if it's not gonna work

[velvet summit]

Me installing windows 10 on a 5200 rpm HDD:

[deep parcel]

heres a meme I made real quick

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/yo-mama-jokes-xbox-live-meme-yo-mama-gif-25152629

[rancid juniper]

Nice

[hoary zodiac]

WE'RE SO BACK

Now I just have to fix the config

[remote geode]

thinking..

should I even be hyped for battlemage if everyone thinks intel is going to axe it

[hoary zodiac]

Ok I'm gonna get another 4 hours of sleep and then fix this tomorrow

Got a lotta packages to reinstall

[sinful blade]

I have signed up for blue sky

[rancid juniper]

https://videocardz.com/pixel/v-color-ddr5-has-been-overclocked-to-12264-mt-s

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-ai-300-apus-demolish-intel-lunar-lake-in-gaming-performance-2x-uplift-fsr-3/

[lone mango]

If the 9950x3d has two vcache dies like how leakers were saying, I would understand why

Since the r7 can boost higher because the cores are above the vcache, it would not be a big deal if there were two vcache dies

[dusk knot]

I am awake. Has NgreedAi announced anything yet?

[dusk knot]

An RMA will do

[velvet summit]

How does this even happen

[icy ore]

Wtf

Ahhh he forgot to put thermal paste under the cpu smh

Common mistake

[frosty sinew]

Prob would've helped lol

[safe cape]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g6O4G1OXd4

@craggy shoal @rancid juniper

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[craggy shoal]

Bro that’s nuts

[icy ore]

That’s crazy bro

Wtf

[safe cape]

needs a mini manual transmission

[pseudo patrol]

Imagine using a clutch on that thing lmaoo

[rancid juniper]

lmfao