general-chat

[wary fjord]

[winter quail]

I turned down the ambulance too XD

I called a friend for a ride lol

[wary fjord]

Broken bones needed to fix asap because they tend to shrink they said

[winter quail]

yeah this probably should have been pinned together the day of the accident

[wary fjord]

No idea i skip biology xD

[winter quail]

but after 2weeks I developed a massive lesion on my hip where I landed so they couldn't operate

so now they have to let the bone set a bit and reassess the situation

[wary fjord]

Thats a good business model the longer u wait.. the more complications comes the more money they make

[winter quail]

yeah pretty much

[wary fjord]

[winter quail]

I'm gonna call Brown & Croupen and then own the hospital instead

[wary fjord]

XD just do brain transplant to a 20 years old body something.. new set of limbs xD

Ngl the wiring of the brain to body thats a hard work

The cable management of our creator is messed up xD

[winter quail]

intelligent design my ass

[tranquil pebble]

imagine a 300 RPM HDD

[wary fjord]

Good enough for camera

Probably low powered too

[icy ore]

Just pulled them out but I don’t know how to cable manage

[unreal trail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9FRadIkkE0

[rigid seal]

where are the best places to trade things like graphics cards?

[unreal trail]

me

[sinful blade]

Wym

Trade in? Or trade for something else?

[rigid seal]

trading for something else

[nocturne flicker]

You unplug one of the cables and lose your grip on it the cable just gets slurped up like a noodle

[tranquil pebble]

so it can still be disabled

[vast plover]

My husband is trying to figure out what is wrong with the pc we just built yesterday. We did a post test (i think is what it's called), before putting everything in the case. All was good. Then once in the case it won't even turn on. We did the paper clip test and the psu is working. We try jump starting also, and it still won't turn on. It's like power isn't getting to the motherboard. Would anyone with experience be willing to help us back track or what ever we need to do?

[wary fjord]

Not for me

[wary fjord]

#building-and-recc-chat

[vast plover]

Thank you ill post there.b

[tranquil pebble]

lol

[plucky stratus]

Good second monitor buy? $180

[wary fjord]

Maybe what panel?

[plucky stratus]

LCD

If not I’ll probably wait for BF or Christmas and hope something better comes along

Or if something else good on the prime deal stuff

[wary fjord]

Wait for xmas sale

XD

[plucky stratus]

lol I figured it’ll have more variety for some stuff especially Newegg, I really want to match my m27q if it goes on sale

Oh crap it’s on sale at Best Buy for 229

[fresh nova]

Holiday Inn Lobby PC specs

[lone mango]

When w10 support ends i switch to linux

[fresh nova]

@somber skiff Maybe I can get HWBOT points off this thing :weggNyehe:

[lone mango]

Been on that boat for a while

[fresh nova]

:weggNyehe:

[lone mango]

does not exist

[fresh nova]

Who turned emojis off in Gen chat

[wary fjord]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0e4LIVvhwpI?si=DTX06sp3VMkVhbaF

[fresh nova]

[lone mango]

Nah that emoji is gone

Admin deleted perhaps

[tranquil pebble]

Can it run Cyberpunk 2077 on ultra?

[velvet summit]

🗣️

[unreal trail]

bruh if you look at Hurricane Milton from the radar, it has a face

[tranquil pebble]

Is $139.99 good for a 2 TB SN850x?

[sweet phoenix]

It's ok

One sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kbwmP6/msi-spatium-m480-pro-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-s78-440q600-p83

I'd grab that

[tranquil pebble]

Thanks, I need a new NVMe pretty bad and that hits right both price and performance

[unreal trail]

Internet Archive has been deleted

[tranquil pebble]

no it hasnt

[craggy shoal]

This guy thinks tha Internet Archive has been deleted

[deep parcel]

idk im looking at the archive and it still has a bajillion things

[tranquil pebble]

also... sigh. Thankfully I use password manager.

[craggy shoal]

imagine getting hacked

[tranquil pebble]

This was my data getting leaked from companies getting hacked.

25 times

[fair onyx]

Any body know of any places to buy a cheap used 4060ti? Like a mass company or mining farms seller?

Condition doesn't matter too much as long as it functions in general

[tranquil pebble]

You say that until you get BSoDs every 10 mins

[fair onyx]

I don't consider that functioning in general lol

I just mean like, of its filthy, that's fine. I can take it apart and clean it. I'm savy with GPU's

Visually scuffed, ugly, I don't really care. Even if the display outputs don't work, I don't care

[tranquil pebble]

also why 4060 ti of all things?

[tranquil pebble]

You could get more perf per dollar with Radeon or Arc. Does it HAVE to be a 4060 ti?

[fair onyx]

It does, I just need a 4060ti. AMD is not an option, and I need the 16GB VRAM

4060ti is the only GPU I am in the market for, I don't care about other options or benefits

Unless there is a 16GB 4060, which I don't think there is?

[sinful blade]

https://fixupx.com/jurgen_nauditt/status/1843702434285400189

[fair onyx]

@tranquil pebble do you happen to know anything about where I could buy one? A cheaper 4060ti, that is

[tranquil pebble]

ebay, maybe... but you will be lucky to find a 16 GB one for less than like 400

[fair onyx]

I'd be fine with a mining card, that would honestly be ideal, but I have no idea if 4060ti's have even been used for that

[tranquil pebble]

nope

[tranquil pebble]

and used Nvidia cards are going for the same price as they are new on ebay rn it looks like

[nocturne flicker]

CS player rebellion incoming, going to turn their Russian slurs on the gov't for banning Steam

[fair onyx]

Hmm... Damn

Hopefully I can find one with a jacked up shroud or broken video connectors. Save some money on things I don't need

[tranquil pebble]

Anything with more than 12 GB and Nvidia is gonna be expensive, even when broken

That is why I wanted to know if it had to be Nvidia

[fair onyx]

Talking to a guy who mods GPU's with 2x mem. Really curious to see. He says he can do a 16GB 3060ti for $250. Dude also has a reputation on hardware swap, and has apparently done it before

He also has a 22GB 2080ti. How neat

Apparently dude in the server has 4x of his 22GB modded 2080ti's and they run fine... How crazy is that

[random osprey]

there goes like half the cs2 population

[tranquil pebble]

microSD SATA RAID card

[fresh nova]

Test

Time to test out my $400 Tarjay laptop @deep parcel

[deep parcel]

10400 one?

or what ya go with?

[fresh nova]

So bought a temporary laptop

[unreal trail]

[fresh nova]

One sec I’ll send the task manager pic, I’m not even sure what the heck this thing is

It’s a Lenovo something

[deep parcel]

ah

[tranquil pebble]

Apparently I grabbed the last one in stock at MSI lol

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[fresh nova]

Great thing with Tarjay is you have 30 days to return electronics even if opened

[tranquil pebble]

I have a Bocchi fumo coming around Feb next year

[proud jackal]

link

[fresh nova]

I’m just seeing if I like a 14 in laptop or not

[tranquil pebble]

preorders closed already

[fresh nova]

So far it seems sleek & easy to travel with

[proud jackal]

THATS NOT WHAT I ASKED

[tranquil pebble]

https://www.amiami.com/eng/detail/?gcode=GOODS-04483921

[proud jackal]

NICE

[fresh nova]

Great this thing is in S mode

[craggy shoal]

Just take it out of S mode lol

[fresh nova]

🙄

Uninstalling blistered

[craggy shoal]

Bloats are

[proud jackal]

are you okay

[fresh nova]

Bloatware

[fresh nova]

Theo I can handle 3 glasses of Bourbon ok

That’s not that much

[deep parcel]

you cant take it out of S mode without reinstalling windows iirc

[fresh nova]

I’m trying to remove the Lenovo Bloatware

[tranquil pebble]

Le No Go moment

[craggy shoal]

Just reinstall Windows honestly

[tranquil pebble]

The S stands for a word I cant say here

[fresh nova]

Lmao

It froze

The i3 locked up

[deep parcel]

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/switching-out-of-s-mode-in-windows-4f56d9be-99ec-6983-119f-031bfb28a307#WindowsVersion=Windows_11

[craggy shoal]

What i3 is it?

[fresh nova]

Jesus help me

[real zenith]

whats a affordable macbook you recommend for 4 years of college as a Computer science major lmk

[fresh nova]

Some 12th gen chip

[deep parcel]

this is why you dont buy no Tarjay laptop

[fresh nova]

It’s currently frozen

[tranquil pebble]

Affordable Macbooks dont exist

[craggy shoal]

"affordable macbook" my ass 💀

[real zenith]

aii gimme a good one

[craggy shoal]

this guy wants an "affordable macbook" 💀😭

[real zenith]

affordable i mean lees then 1.5k

1.5k or less

[deep parcel]

facebook marketplace

used

[fresh nova]

Boys help me

[real zenith]

like i think that’s affordable

[craggy shoal]

Air M3 with 512GB and 16GB. Discounted on Amazon rn. Will last you for like 5(?) years

[real zenith]

pls

bet

[tranquil pebble]

CS Major using a Macbook is kinda cringe ngl

[craggy shoal]

I see that goofy ahh TN screen

[tranquil pebble]

TN screens walked so OLED could run

[craggy shoal]

This guy wants a MacBook for a CS degree

[real zenith]

bro whats wrong wit it

[deep parcel]

https://www.amazon.com/Apple-2024-MacBook-13-inch-Laptop/dp/B0CX246FNZ/ heres the link to the laptop he was referring to

[real zenith]

what u recommend then for cs major

[craggy shoal]

It's not great for CS 💀

[tranquil pebble]

wrong tool for the job

[craggy shoal]

I mean it's okay

[real zenith]

i alr got a of

pc

[tranquil pebble]

its like using a screwdriver on nails

[real zenith]

whats best for cs then recommend me sum

[mortal grail]

....

[real zenith]

bro mb

[deep parcel]

a windows laptop

[mortal grail]

You answered your own question lol

[craggy shoal]

I wouldn't start with a MacBook. Start with a Windows machine and then get a MacBook later. That's what most CS majors do

[real zenith]

i offended yall someone said macbook is best for cs major

[craggy shoal]

Also, honestly, don't major in CS. They don't get jobs after graduation 💀

[tranquil pebble]

It isnt, straight up

[deep parcel]

maybe for very specific tasks in CS

[mortal grail]

Unfortunately all the CS majors I've met really prefer full PCs

[deep parcel]

like developing for apple

lol

[real zenith]

nah imma be a management information systems major

i just dident know if yall knew what that is

so i used cs major

[craggy shoal]

yeah Windows would be way better for that

[deep parcel]

then just go with a windows laptop

[real zenith]

aii which tho lmk

[mortal grail]

You'll still want at least a good thin n lite

[deep parcel]

they prob will use software that is windows only

[fresh nova]

TN screen is dying

[rancid juniper]

silent hill 2 without fog

[real zenith]

recommend me sum then for work only

sum affordable then

for that

[mortal grail]

@elfin mural help dis mans

[deep parcel]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-gaming-a16-16-165hz-gaming-laptop-fhd-amd-ryzen-7-7735hs-with-16gb-ddr5-memory-radeon-rx7700s-512gb-pcie-ssd-off-black/6560989.p?skuId=6560989

[craggy shoal]

idk laptops that well lol

[deep parcel]

heres a baller laptop

[idle nexus]

it's not even raining here rn

[deep parcel]

has upgradable ram and a spare nvme slot

also strong enough

[rancid juniper]

same, we got lucky GG

[mortal grail]

That's an excellent pick

[idle nexus]

for real

[rancid juniper]

the tornadoes were crazy doe

[mortal grail]

@idle nexus u in FL?

[deep parcel]

its the same laptop I got for my mom 🙂

[idle nexus]

ya you saw that one that crossed i-75

[deep parcel]

it can be optimized hella for battery

[rancid juniper]

yep, intense af

[idle nexus]

grew up in Miami & now I live just north of there

[deep parcel]

it can get like 8+ hours of battery life in a gaming laptop

[idle nexus]

so yes'

[rancid juniper]

over 12+ tornado warnings issued today

[real zenith]

so this one then fire

?

[mortal grail]

U alr?

[tranquil pebble]

Wow they actually did a proper RAM config in an OEM system for once

[idle nexus]

it's not even raining

[deep parcel]

100%, like I said upgradable and is powerful enough for the future

[craggy shoal]

LMAO that's so unheard of

[real zenith]

bet

[idle nexus]

or a more direct answer: yes I'm fine presently

[rancid juniper]

IMPOSSIBLE

[craggy shoal]

Honestly kinda wish I had gotten that Asus

[deep parcel]

only downside imo is the keyboard lighting

only white backlit

[fresh nova]

14in laptops are hard

[deep parcel]

but the keyboard on it is so nice

[fresh nova]

It’s hard to fit good hardware in them

[idle nexus]

there's 1.5 million people w/o power apparently. Luckily I'm not included in that

[fresh nova]

Yes we’re watching the news from Mississippi

[tranquil pebble]

yikes

[idle nexus]

lol I hate laptops

[craggy shoal]

fr bruh they're all garbage for no reason

[tranquil pebble]

just make a portable desktop on your back

[deep parcel]

cuz manufacturers cut stupid corners

[idle nexus]

my unsolicited opinion: get a piece of crap laptop that does office/school stuff well enough not to drive you crazy & put all the money you saved buying that one into your desktop

[craggy shoal]

Some laptops cost like $1500 and still have only 16GB of soldered memory 💀

[idle nexus]

I'm jaded as heck tho

[tranquil pebble]

actually a good way to do it

[idle nexus]

I have the Emperor of all overpriced crappy laptops

[mortal grail]

Have you not tried to configure it?

[tranquil pebble]

craptops

[mortal grail]

My a15 has rgb

[deep parcel]

that laptop I linked is a reasonable price tho, like 700

[deep parcel]

yeah I think in armoury crate it didnt give an option for RGB lol

[mortal grail]

Ehhhh

A15 have it

[deep parcel]

ill check later

but I swear it was only white backlit

[mortal grail]

You can set it to work even without armoury crate

It has dedicated rgb memory lmao

[craggy shoal]

Imagine paying for a $3,699.99 laptop and it comes with Armoury Crate 💀

[idle nexus]

imagine, if you will, taking a 10th gen i7 & a 1660ti & shoving them into a small plastic case that's taped together and--here's the real kicker--make no effort whatsoever to cool it

that's my laptop

[mortal grail]

I paid half that 2 years ago and got armoury crate

[idle nexus]

I actually hate using it

[tranquil pebble]

my $1000 mobo came with it too, but I disabled it

[idle nexus]

I have another laptop. It's an ASUS that has a 6700HQ & a GTX970m. It's ancient but such a better experience lol

[mortal grail]

BRUH WHO ARE SAYING THERE ARE TONADOES

[craggy shoal]

That doesn't sound too bad lol

[craggy shoal]

Florida

[mortal grail]

THE TORNADO FOOTAGE ARE SUPER CELLS NOT HURRICANE

[idle nexus]

oh & a 16:10 4k screen that's only 60hz

[mortal grail]

[misty sparrow]

florida is incredibly unlucky for having two back to back hurricanes in a row

[fresh nova]

Stentio

[idle nexus]

lol ya Florida is to weather what Australia is to wildlife

[mortal grail]

I'm getting shown on reddit like 5 year old tornado footage

I've watched a lot

I recognise the videos

[proud jackal]

-seeds clouds-

[mortal grail]

They'd have to be separate super cells to get super clear tornadoes in play like this

Someone's pranking reddit lmfao

[fresh nova]

Hotel internet bad

And I didn’t bring an Ethernet

[idle nexus]

this is kinda close-ish to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIuwaPXCQeM

[real zenith]

yo so if i wanna be a criminal justice major what macbook should i buy tho lmk

im still debating between those 2 majors

[fresh nova]

Why didn’t you guys remind me to bring an Ethernet dang it

[real zenith]

mb for asking so much

i alr for mis tho what imma buy

[craggy shoal]

bro do you even know what you want to do? 😭

[idle nexus]

criminal justice & what's the other option?

[real zenith]

mis

management information systems

[craggy shoal]

okay but has anybody tried talking to Milton?

[real zenith]

i still got a few months to choose but yeah those

2

[mortal grail]

Ya this is exactly what's happening

They're breaking off into super cells

i.e not part of the hurricane anymore

[idle nexus]

I did like 90% of a criminal justice major (don't ask lol) but I don't know what you'd do with it unless you want to be a police officer

& if you do, I think you can go to the academy without spending the time & $ on it anyway

[real zenith]

i wanna be cop lol

[idle nexus]

oh well in that case, do it up lol

[real zenith]

nah it’s better for college i got an uncle he a seargent

[craggy shoal]

yeah but hackerman is way cooler

[real zenith]

so he knows the ins and outs of it

he said better to go to community college than university then police academy then officer

[idle nexus]

sounds like you know better than I do so nvm lol

[real zenith]

way better benefits and pay boost every time u rank up

[idle nexus]

it's not a particularly difficult major imo

[real zenith]

like bigger pay boost than everyone else

ik he said do that cause it’s easiest lol

[fresh nova]

Boys I'm in Discord on the laptop

I made it'

[real zenith]

they rlly don’t care but if you did some type of law degree u get pay boost and more benefits

than everyone else

[idle nexus]

I think taking constitutional law (definitely an overview) & ig torts are a little difficult ish

[real zenith]

yeah im scared of college ngl

i wanna stay young

[fresh nova]

ooooo

[idle nexus]

did you look at woot.com or the almost free laptops on shopgoodwill? lol

[real zenith]

shi tragic

[fresh nova]

What is that

[idle nexus]

dude let me tell you

after high school ends, life is in fast forward

I feel like I graduated college like 4-5 years ago

it's been almost 14 years lol

[real zenith]

i got good gpa(3.4) and honor classes but still

[craggy shoal]

You don't have time to stay young lol

[fresh nova]

Oh boy

[mortal grail]

Can't play in my country

[real zenith]

SHEEESH

UNC

[mortal grail]

Should I swim over

[idle nexus]

woot.com is an amazon company that sells like overstock stuff ig. They usually have a decent amount of laptops. shopgoodwill is goodwill's auction site. Some ancient laptop sold for $19.99 yesterday iirc lol

[real zenith]

yo but still what mac should i get for college sum slight

it don’t need to be powerful

ngl

it’s for a criminal justice major

[idle nexus]

https://www.woot.com/category/computers/laptops?ref=w_cnt_cdet_pc_3

[craggy shoal]

Any laptop for Criminal Justice. Go with a Windows laptop for any STEM major

[real zenith]

aii

[idle nexus]

you can log-in with your amazon account. I bought my 43" Samsung commercial display on there for dirt cheap. It's my seven-year-old's monitor now lol

[real zenith]

W

[fresh nova]

I see

[real zenith]

yo btw who knows about pc parts

[idle nexus]

I could've sworn you bought a laptop off woot before like 3 years ago

[craggy shoal]

seven-year-old flexing a 43" monitor that's nuts 💀

[real zenith]

i wanna see if i could upgrade anything in my pc i got em

[idle nexus]

he got my hand-me-down 5900x/2080ti

[real zenith]

but i only got pics of it

so yall gone have to dm me ok

pls

[idle nexus]

which was an upgrade for the 10900K/1080ti hand-me-down he was using before

ig next year I gotta give him 12900K/3080ti or something

[fresh nova]

I bought a lot of stuff

[idle nexus]

I have this same problem

[fresh nova]

Remember when I had three 3090's & two 3080's chilling across my house

[idle nexus]

ohhh snap 3050ti lol https://computers.woot.com/offers/asus-vivobook-pro-16x-oled-slim-laptop?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_3_18

[mortal grail]

If you like oled so much you'd marry it

[idle nexus]

5800H

[real zenith]

shi fire

[idle nexus]

they never seem to mention the display refresh rate on these heckin things

[real zenith]

wait someone rate my pc

and tell me what i could upgrade

i need help

[topaz crown]

Hello @real zenith! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[idle nexus]

heck I wish I got this Asus laptop instead of my stupid surfacebook lol

[mortal grail]

Been 2 years, still happy with my tuf tbh

I turn on game, gameplay

I turn on CAD, cad play

[idle nexus]

what's the point of these anyway? are they just folding tablets with big keyboards essentially? https://computers.woot.com/offers/hp-chromebook-11a-g8-ee-sd?ref=w_cnt_lnd_cat_pc_3_36

$65 lol

[fresh nova]

omg

[mortal grail]

[pliant berry]

you can just do some recent macbook air

will type up any documents you need for classes

[idle nexus]

220 nits display must look really nice in a dark room with no windows

[mortal grail]

Wym

It comes with windows

[idle nexus]

wym it's a chromebook

[mortal grail]

Dammit

I didn't look

[idle nexus]

you didn't miss much

[sinful blade]

Shoot

[mortal grail]

Ok

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

[idle nexus]

you know there's a way using uh... heck I forgot

Linux Mint iirc

you can install chromebook on x86

[real zenith]

sent dms

lmk what i should upgrade

cause i only got pics of my parts ngl

[idle nexus]

I did it before & realized what an utter waste of time it was lol

[mortal grail]

My late android experience has me getting less interested in linux on a daily basis

[idle nexus]

ngl I kinda hate android lately

[mortal grail]

Btw gary I have fixed muh apex pc up

[real zenith]

wait should i get a dma all my friends got it

it’s lowkey annoying asf

[mortal grail]

I'll update you if I still need the block

Waiting for 0x12b

Not beta

I did a fan swap, wanna see if it's enough, didn't forget

Otherwise block + d5 it is

[tranquil pebble]

4 GB of single-channel DDR3, and old Radeon iGPU with 3 CUs... yeah have fun with that

[idle nexus]

nice I still have the website saved https://beebom.com/dual-boot-chrome-os-windows-10//

[mortal grail]

Garyyyyy

[idle nexus]

lol I'll take it out of son's PC cuz it doesn't match & I have a black one anyway so lmk lol

[mortal grail]

Np

[idle nexus]

I need to redo his build

[mortal grail]

I'm not in any rush btw

[idle nexus]

2080ti has 3 slot PCIe thing but I got a 2 slot from China

[mortal grail]

If this takes another few months, or a few days, either way I can adapt lol

[idle nexus]

took like 3 weeks but I need to do it cuz his build looks awful in hindsight

[mortal grail]

Lol

[idle nexus]

oh btw

[mortal grail]

The copper...

Bent??

[idle nexus]

I re-routed to hide that ugly thing

what a mission

[mortal grail]

Ohhhhh

Oh that looks so much cleaner

[real zenith]

sent dm gang

rate my pc and help me upgrade it pls

[topaz crown]

Hello @real zenith! It appears that you're asking for help. Please ask again in the appropriate category so you can get faster help from people specializing in that field. Your question may not be answered here.

[idle nexus]

ya I just gotta do something about this last ugly one I don't like

[mortal grail]

Show me which

[idle nexus]

if you talk a little longer, your name turns green & you can post it here

[mortal grail]

I'm getting pretty good at loop planning lol

[real zenith]

aii

yeah i got pics of it

that’s why i can’t post it

[sinful blade]

My brother in light

Everything

[real zenith]

glooks

[tranquil pebble]

It supports almost no hardware lol

[sinful blade]

What’s your budget

[real zenith]

what yall think ??

[idle nexus]

I don't even remember what I ran it on ngl

[real zenith]

umm thinking to upgrade just what i gotta type stuff

[tranquil pebble]

dGPU not supported at all

[real zenith]

but lets say 500

[mortal grail]

New or old

[real zenith]

old

2 years now

[mortal grail]

Flip it, start fresh

[idle nexus]

17 tornadoes hit St. Lucie County alone jeez

[mortal grail]

Sell it for like $400

[real zenith]

it’s not running bad just wondering how much it would cost

[real zenith]

and what build should i do

[mortal grail]

Then build on $900

7700xt 7500f build probably

[real zenith]

if you could send it all i would appreciate it ngl

[mortal grail]

Wayyy better than what you could achieve by upgrades alone

[real zenith]

i might just flip it

[mortal grail]

Alr

[real zenith]

where tho

[idle nexus]

ig you could install 58/700X3D

[real zenith]

flip it

[sinful blade]

@real zenith my wife’s $80 1660super is better than your gpu currently

[mortal grail]

Still thinking

[real zenith]

nahhh

chill

[sinful blade]

I’m not even trying to bully

[real zenith]

where should i sell it then ngl

[real zenith]

it’s aii it’s good i wanna upgrade my pc ngl

[sinful blade]

eBay, fb marketplace, mercari

[tranquil pebble]

dw, my area had its share of it too

[idle nexus]

ya it's a hard one without total re-route. That rear radiator probably does almost nothing for the cooling system & is such a pain to deal with

[real zenith]

how much tho

[sinful blade]

Have @mortal grail give you a solid $900 build

[real zenith]

should i sell it for

[sinful blade]

The pc as a whole? Or parting out?

[real zenith]

pc whole

[fresh nova]

omg

[idle nexus]

can ThrottleStop work on 12th gen? it was locked by microcode on 10th (rendering my laptop even more awful)

[fresh nova]

@deep parcel

It's a bit laggy

[sinful blade]

Maybe $400, if you get someone gullible, $500

[fresh nova]

Better than Celeron but yuck

[real zenith]

yo bro gimme a good 900 dollar build when u can pls

[real zenith]

nah my shi 500 now that crazy asf

[idle nexus]

I want this for HWbot. ES laptop CPU that fits in LGA 1700

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807189579072.html?

[real zenith]

imma do 500 for now

and see if ppl offer

but minimum 400 aii

bet

[idle nexus]

seriously I think it's something with links I copy from Edge that I always get embed fails

[mortal grail]

@real zenith https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LWYxh3

[fresh nova]

HWBOT IS FUN

[mortal grail]

Little over, worth it tho

That $40 gets you like 20% more performance

[real zenith]

aii bet

[real zenith]

yo add me btw

imma need yo help latter pls

[mortal grail]

Just ping here if you need more help

[idle nexus]

12600HX ftw lol

[mortal grail]

I keep dms closed cos otherwise my message box would be out of control

Sometimes I get 50+ pings a day

[real zenith]

aii

[mortal grail]

It's easier when they're in the right channel

[idle nexus]

12600HX > 12100F

my 12100F is so garbage

I'm gonna delid it for the heck of it

not right now tho cuz I'm surrounded by copper polish & shame

[real zenith]

but yall could gimme and example of how i should list my pc like the name

i don’t know much ngl

so that’s why i’m asking

[tranquil pebble]

12100 in something like a Raspberry Pi would go hard

[real zenith]

this my parts btw

[mortal grail]

I reckon 400-500 range

[real zenith]

yeah but the ñame

i mean

[mortal grail]

Start high side, lower over a couple weeks

[real zenith]

like idk what to put

[idle nexus]

Ryzen 5 3600/RTX 3050/B450M-A Pro Max/2x8gb DDR4/650w PSU/250gb NVMe

or something like that

[mortal grail]

Gaming pc, 3600, 3050

[real zenith]

bet bet

glooksssss

W

[idle nexus]

oh you're green

[mortal grail]

Just tell everyone what it is

[real zenith]

thanks so much for the help

[mortal grail]

Do local pickup

[idle nexus]

you can send pictures now

[real zenith]

yeah im green now

yup

and you said where again to sell sorry

[idle nexus]

you can throw like "Windows [10 or 11]" on there so people know it's activated too

[real zenith]

imma ss it this time

[real zenith]

bet

[mortal grail]

Shipping without a made pc box is painful

So local pickup imo

Saves any damage happening

400 would be the lowest I'd go

[real zenith]

but sell where again tho

the examples u gave me

[sinful blade]

Yeah, he gets pinged a lot

[real zenith]

i forgot sorry

[mortal grail]

Ebay works

Fb marketplace

[real zenith]

just ebay than ?

[mortal grail]

Jawa

Sure

[idle nexus]

oh ya jawa is pretty good

[mortal grail]

It all depends what kinda effort you wanna do

[idle nexus]

I mean seems like it at least

up & coming

join their discord too

[sinful blade]

It’s got Linus already

[idle nexus]

there's also hwswap on reddit but I never actually used that

cuz I never really got into reddit

[sinful blade]

@worldly plank is the resident Jawa seller who got authorized to sell on Amazon as well

[idle nexus]

doesn't seem like a great place. Kinda like Overclock.net. Those forums seem like where many know-it-all, condescending types hang out & confidently give people incorrect information

[real zenith]

whats jawa

is it a website or app?

[sinful blade]

Website

[idle nexus]

website & discord

[sinful blade]

Basically custom pcs, gpu/cpu trade in, hardware, etc.

Good place.

Doesn’t charge too bad of fees to sell there

[idle nexus]

heck the roof on tropicana field is uh, not there

[real zenith]

aii send discord to me then pls

[sinful blade]

It’s just jawa

[real zenith]

btw yall wouldent happen to know any good middle men?

that r rlly valid

im doing a like 400 dollar deal

and i need a middle man badly

[idle nexus]

wym

I think that's what jawa & ebay are for kinda

not like facebook marketplace or offerup where they just facilitate you meeting someone offering to purchase & then you gotta do some suspicious-feeling drive-by sale in front of a Publix or something lol

(experience talking)

btw for you non-Floridians, Publix is a grocery store

[random osprey]

you call heaven a grocery store?

[velvet summit]

https://youtube.com/shorts/O86Pb1KnbXk?si=I43tbyIAGU7XbnFP

still water defeated

[fresh nova]

i3 strugling

[velvet summit]

what is a grocery store

NO WAY

[idle nexus]

oh yeah I heard that on TechLinked thing

those like Linus subsidiary youtube channels keep me up-to-date lol

[velvet summit]

lmao

[idle nexus]

& sometimes

[velvet summit]

damn they even have a game one now

[idle nexus]

shortcircuit is kinda meh tbh

[velvet summit]

i ususally only watch short circuit whenever they have something interesting to me

[idle nexus]

I watched a thing about Bluetooth 6.0 & it was meh lol

Louis Rossmann makes me laugh

earlier I re-soldered an LED strip

marking the first time I ever successfully soldered something

it was ugly but it worked

so I'm a solder guy now

might put some tiny wires on a GPU later

jk I dunno how to do that

[real zenith]

set it up and jawa just got the pics left imma do that tomm

[idle nexus]

maybe I can do crazy Seby mods on GPUs

[proud jackal]

[idle nexus]

heck St. Peterburg is shutting off water at midnight cuz of mainline break

[lone mango]

Thats crazy

[fresh nova]

Gonna run a Userbenchmark on it

lol

[lone mango]

Better than my mini pc at least

it has the n200 i think

Wait no it has the n95

[sinful blade]

https://www.bee-link.com/products/beelink-ser8-8845hs

friend of mine bought this to play destiny on

Gets a nice 60+ fps on 1440p high

[craggy shoal]

bruh

not bad wtf

[fresh nova]

What’s the GPU?

[idle nexus]

someone needs to invent a better transformer that doesn't blow up every storm lol

[storm narwhal]

Isn't that just the same igpu as the 7840HS

[storm narwhal]

780M

Isn't the 8845HS effectively the same as the 7840HS

[sinful blade]

I have no idea

[mortal grail]

Well when I get regularly asked as the go to chap the numbers start to add up lol

During the earlier part of the year I was clocking well over 100

Been busy lately so I've kept myself more out of sight so I'm down to the 20's or so

[mortal grail]

https://tenor.com/view/userbenchmark-loserbenchmark-amd-cpus-ryzen-9-gif-14924051200525580898

[storm narwhal]

NGL the ports on tha mini-PC leave more to be desired

[deep parcel]

lol hardware raytracing on that mini pc

[mortal grail]

I waited, like, a month to post that gif

[storm narwhal]

Minisforums gives you all usb 3 for the type a and USB 4 for the type c

And dual 2.5gb Ethernet

[sinful blade]

I want to create a pc that can fit inside that mini pc

[mortal grail]

Raspberry pi unit

[lone mango]

i like the one that has the 5500u because it is way better than the ones that have those nXXX chips

[storm narwhal]

It's gonna be ass but it probably can do it

[idle nexus]

I hate copper so much rn

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-crazy-painting-gif-14379544

[storm narwhal]

Experience tranquility?

[lone mango]

Had to look that up

[storm narwhal]

Something got lost in translation for the marketing

[idle nexus]

I need to find a way to make these pipes not tarnish or me not care

[lone mango]

It be like that

[storm narwhal]

Or the guy mains zenyatta

The orb robot

[idle nexus]

latter is probably easier

[storm narwhal]

Turn it into the statue of liberty

Maybe if you helped the pipes find a maiden

It will assist the tarnished

[idle nexus]

lol paint pipes green?

[storm narwhal]

Yoo

Smart

Paint resin on them

Those aren't flammable

Totally

[pliant berry]

Speaking of which I just got a noise complaint about one of my server pcs being too bright and loud in someone else’s room

[storm narwhal]

Lmao

Why do they place the brightest god damn lights in existence on power buttons

Like actually why

[storm narwhal]

Maybe he just needs earplugs

[pliant berry]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I actually need to invest in some earplugs

[storm narwhal]

Which honestly hearing protection is suprisingly important

[storm narwhal]

I hear people like loop earplugs

Heh, hear

[mortal grail]

Love this damn tbing

Thing

Tbing

[lone mango]

fr

[pliant berry]

Sometimes i sleep with my airpods pro but i don’t like doing that often

[mortal grail]

I'd sleep with the front panel of this if I could

Is that weird?

[storm narwhal]

I lose one and it just so happens to be out of battery too

Sadness

[lone mango]

[storm narwhal]

I mean

[mortal grail]

I'll gladly be weird for wood a3

[storm narwhal]

Its kinda hard idk how you'd sleep with it in your bed

[mortal grail]

The front panel?

[storm narwhal]

Maybe as a pillow or something

Yeah

[mortal grail]

Front panel pillow

A gentle hug, sweet dreams

[storm narwhal]

You'll have good airflow

[mortal grail]

LMFAO

[storm narwhal]

No more sweaty face in the middle of the night

[mortal grail]

I'll never overheat with DAN A3 mATX WOOD Ver.

[tacit geode]

eh this server man

half the reason i dont talk here anymore

crap like this

[pliant berry]

Im trying to look at their website and the scrolling aint working

[storm narwhal]

Someone likes sleeping with their wood

[mortal grail]

Bro's taking me too seriously lol

[proud jackal]

[lone mango]

Fr

Bro too serious

[idle nexus]

these reporter in the field interviews are so pointless

[sinful blade]

You know what else won’t overheat?

[storm narwhal]

I've not had an issue with scrolling there idk

[nocturne flicker]

Strap PC to AC unit

[storm narwhal]

I know they got one for sleep, one for conversations, one for concerts

[mortal grail]

What you're seeing are PhD meteorologists obsessed with storms going straight to where their endorphins shoot the highest

[storm narwhal]

And one that switches between all three of those modes

[idle nexus]

"[Reporter], are the rain & wind conditions on our little map thing here where it's dry, right? "Well [dry reporter], hurricane scary & traffic light fall down."

[sinful blade]

MY BOY SEGOTEP GANK 360

https://www.segotep.com/En/product_show.aspx?id=404

[storm narwhal]

The switch one feels a little gimmicky

[sinful blade]

FEATURING HIGH AIRFLOW RGB

[mortal grail]

[sinful blade]

UNMATCHED COOLING CAPABILITIES

[mortal grail]

Gank more like jank smh

[pliant berry]

Concerts is what i need. Ehh ill try to look when i get to my pc in the morning

[sinful blade]

AND GLASS PANELS EVERYWHERE

[storm narwhal]

The great thing is that they will last basically years

Not like foam ones

[proud jackal]

Throw a ceramic in there

[mortal grail]

Anyone else realise concert and concrete are one letter different

[storm narwhal]

I been on the fence about getting a set myself tbh

Sometimes life does get real loud and concerts also terribly loud

[dusk knot]

Well. Looks like the hurricane is nothing for those living in south Florida. Doesn't feel like one. Now those in the north are getting the blunt of it.

[storm narwhal]

Was the last one in the South

Cause if it was nature is trying to wipe Florida off the face of the earth

[proud jackal]

Blame the warm oceans

[storm narwhal]

Too many gators punched I guess

[proud jackal]

[idle nexus]

it's still not even raining here lol

[sinful blade]

Jank, more like, PEAK WITH ALL THIS SUPPORT

[dusk knot]

It barely rained

Maybe a drizzle

[sinful blade]

THE MOST ADVANCED GAMING RIG OF THE CENTURY

[dusk knot]

And some gusts of winds

[storm narwhal]

PUB smart

that's me at the bar

[idle nexus]

lol there was a tornado nearby

kinda

[dusk knot]

Oh right

[idle nexus]

17 in St. Lucie county alone I heard

[storm narwhal]

Just shoot the tornado

[dusk knot]

Glad I didn’t see it

[mortal grail]

Give it a few hours the hurricane might reach you man

[storm narwhal]

Can you actually stop a tornado with explosives

[mortal grail]

The super cells hit first with tornadic flux

[idle nexus]

I think the hurricane is almost out of Tampa & heading to Disney World to let them know what it thought of the Star Wars stuff they've released in the last couple years

[sinful blade]

No

[storm narwhal]

If it heats up the air enough

In a big enough area

Wouldn't that disrupt the system

[sinful blade]

You’d need so much

[mortal grail]

LOL reed timmer answered this once and he said yes with enough

[idle nexus]

it's too far north & heading pretty much dead east rn. Also, it's down to cat 2

[storm narwhal]

I KNEW IT

[sinful blade]

That’s you would nearly destroy the country

[idle nexus]

I've thrown parties during Cat 2s

ah those were the days

I can almost remember what it was like to be fun

[storm narwhal]

How many explosives would you need

[sinful blade]

A lot

[mortal grail]

Bro's obsessed with tornadoes and that movie is based off him so he probably knows lol

A lot yeah

Way more than the movie

[storm narwhal]

Mini nuke

[idle nexus]

Reed Timmer is tornado master

[mortal grail]

It depends on the vortex but he thinks they could

[idle nexus]

Storm Chasers on Discovery channel from like 2008-2010 was best show ever

[storm narwhal]

BROO

[idle nexus]

every time I heard that bon jovi song I got pumped

[storm narwhal]

storm chasers was goated

[idle nexus]

SHOT DOWWWWWWNNN in a blaze of gloryyyy

[mortal grail]

He just drives up, rental car, sometimes shirtless.

"WOOOOO, WE'RE IN THE TORNADO" 😂😂

[idle nexus]

Reed is in Tampa rn

[storm narwhal]

The mods they have to have for their vehicles is so cool

[dusk knot]

Lmaooooo. That’s the truth

[storm narwhal]

Might as well arrive on a bike lmao

[idle nexus]

lol I watched his live stream a few days ago. He said he's blacklisted at many rental car companies cuz he's destroyed too many

[storm narwhal]

Let me ask Google actually

[sinful blade]

Hey @storm narwhal can you take this rq?

[idle nexus]

Dominator 2

he mentioned losing another Dominator recently or something

[storm narwhal]

Google assistant isn't helping

They're not even funny answers they're just studies on suggested ways to stop them

[idle nexus]

bad ass https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRV_Dominator

[storm narwhal]

YEESSS

[mortal grail]

He will stand outside in it if he can

Bro literally walks into snowball hail to get a picture

☠️

He's very smart however

[idle nexus]

dude is unrelenting lmao

[mortal grail]

If I ever got caught in bad weather he's the one dude I'd want to be next to

Or better yet

away from

💀

[idle nexus]

dude you remember the father/son team on Storm Chasers called Twistex?

[mortal grail]

Yeah I remember el reno

[idle nexus]

well, let's just say things didn't go well for them

[mortal grail]

I've seen the original footage

[storm narwhal]

Good god

[idle nexus]

sad

[storm narwhal]

I don't remember

[mortal grail]

It's basically lost now but there was a video of the Samaras pair in el reno

[idle nexus]

I wonder what that iMax dude is doing now

who hated Reed lol

[mortal grail]

Tim Samaras and his son btw @idle nexus

[idle nexus]

ya very sad

[mortal grail]

It was the perfectly wrong conditions

So it's sad but also, serves as a strong lesson to many

[idle nexus]

you forget how dangerous what they do is when you watch it on TV

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah

Cos you see it and therefore it's ok

[idle nexus]

Sean Casey

that was his name

[mortal grail]

But when it goes wrong, those things are massive vacuums throwing you around

[idle nexus]

I wonder what he's doing these days

[mortal grail]

I think the scariest footage was of an, I think EF4?

Night tornado

You could see a car being thrown around in the sky

[idle nexus]

TIV was the truck they drove

[mortal grail]

Looping the tornado

[idle nexus]

ya night time & rain wrapped tornadoes are no joke

[mortal grail]

It's a debated topic if it was even a car

But most chasers say it was a car

[idle nexus]

the videos from Joplin are nuts

[mortal grail]

Maybe I can find it

Joplin's a scary one yeah

[idle nexus]

almost as crazy as Japan Tsunami that borked Fukushima

Katrina videos are nuts too

[mortal grail]

Ok I'm thinking of the ef4 rolling fork tornado

[idle nexus]

dunno why I get so fascinated by that stuff

[mortal grail]

https://youtu.be/4FV3woxhVss

[idle nexus]

holy heck lol

[mortal grail]

They never found what it was but most experts are pretty sure it was

180mph+ winds, lifting a car isn't surprising

[idle nexus]

dude have you seen how like cardboard can be stuck in brick from EF5s? that's insane to think the amount of force to do that

[storm narwhal]

Jesus

[lone mango]

Davinci resolve at 0:25

[mortal grail]

Another angle
https://youtu.be/lvE5PB9ymX8

[lone mango]

[storm narwhal]

Its still a really good video editor

And you don't need to sign your life over to adobe

[idle nexus]

I meant wood thru concrete derp

[lone mango]

yeah i love it

[mortal grail]

Some of the most insane pics

Chairs in walls

Lmao

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

Or the opposite

[storm narwhal]

How did the wood even stay together

[mortal grail]

Like whole ef4, ef5 damage, yet a cake is untouched on the counter

[mortal grail]

Speed

[chrome mirage]

This just came in

[mortal grail]

The stuff is flying that fast it just skewers

[lone mango]

Maybe the shape too

[storm narwhal]

It probably has to be very specific conditions

[idle nexus]

it's weird how like hurricanes are categorized in real time but aren't tornadoes categorized after the fact based on the level of damage?

[lone mango]

Nah I think its wind speed for them too

[storm narwhal]

There's a lot of decceleration as it hits a solid surface

I do notice the wood seems to be impaled along the direction of the fibers

[idle nexus]

unrelated, how likely am I to damage something if I mounted Heatkiller IV Pro directly onto 13900KS die without a frame? lol

[storm narwhal]

Its making a lot more sense now

[storm narwhal]

Isn't the damage only if you crack the die

[idle nexus]

I wonder how easy that would be to do

[storm narwhal]

Probably pretty easy but idk

[idle nexus]

the other issue is whether heatkiller iv pro can even get good contact

like that .5mm or whatever matters lol

[storm narwhal]

If you just add enough

[lone mango]

Yeah I heard you have to screw down very lightly

[mortal grail]

Found it
https://youtu.be/k3slDI81fx8
Skip to 6:40

[chrome mirage]

A game with a manual in it. That's rare.

[idle nexus]

I did it with 10700KF with LF2 & didn't break anything

[lone mango]

I remember derbauer saying its really easy to mess up

[idle nexus]

heatkiller iv pro has springs so ig that kinda works in my favor

[mortal grail]

Sorry, 6:40

[idle nexus]

but then again, it's probably harder to know whether I've applied a lot of force with springs

[mortal grail]

House is destroyed yet this 💀

[lone mango]

What is that

[mortal grail]

A cake

[idle nexus]

it's nuts how like one house is destroyed and the one across the street is completely fine

[lone mango]

[mortal grail]

Edible btw

[storm narwhal]

The cake is truly a lie

[mortal grail]

That whole section of the kitchen wasn't just untouched, it was completely retained, the rest of the house was slabbed

Lmfao

[tranquil pebble]

[idle nexus]

I don't get why there's no 12/13/14th gen contact frames for direct die

[storm narwhal]

The entire ceiling is gone

[idle nexus]

I used to check rockitcool website like once a month but they never made one

[storm narwhal]

Its just a little wet

[mortal grail]

He does an entire analysis of the cake 😂😂😂

The cake was in a safe zone

[storm narwhal]

Take note civil engineers

This is how you build a house-

[mortal grail]

When in tornado, run for cake

[storm narwhal]

Always design a cake into the kitchen

[mortal grail]

As long as the tornado is lack toes and taller ants you'll be ok

It's like bug spray for vortexes

[storm narwhal]

Real

[mortal grail]

Ah man I broke my obsession of this stuff a while ago, now I'm all back in 💀

[storm narwhal]

They just don't want you to know about this one trick

[idle nexus]

lol fr

[storm narwhal]

Doctors hate him

Click to find out why

[mortal grail]

Tornadoes are just so damn interesting

[storm narwhal]

Its a succ on a massive scale

[mortal grail]

@idle nexus is it raining yet

[storm narwhal]

Big succ

[idle nexus]

lol no

[storm narwhal]

Big zucc

[mortal grail]

Earth has a pre gud succ

[storm narwhal]

Maybe he's behind all this

[idle nexus]

isn't highest wind speed ever recorded from a tornado & like 400mph?

[mortal grail]

Yes

Wait

No

[idle nexus]

254

[storm narwhal]

On earth right

[mortal grail]

405km/h

[idle nexus]

408km/h

[mortal grail]

Ya not mph

Lmfao

That was this year or last year btw

[storm narwhal]

Not like Jupiter or other planets

[mortal grail]

It was a recent breakout

[idle nexus]

oh & it wasn't a tornado

[mortal grail]

Wha

[idle nexus]

Tropical Cyclone Olivia or something

IN AUSTRALIA LOL

[mortal grail]

Eh

[idle nexus]

sus source https://www.thoughtco.com/fast-wind-speed-recorded-3444498

now for some wikipedia

funny how that's no longer considered a bad source

[mortal grail]

No it's greenfield I'm stupid

[idle nexus]

it was a conspiracy by the educational system who wanted to justify all the money they spent on encyclopedias lol

[mortal grail]

My numbers were off

300mph

https://youtu.be/o_kms2m5V-Q

From mister timmerman

[idle nexus]

remember when there were encyclopedias that were like 26 books & $500? lol

[mortal grail]

3 months ago

Oh yeah

Now everything is google

Lol

[idle nexus]

they were like passed down generation-to-generation like some sort of sacred text

[mortal grail]

Insane tornado btw, you can clearly see the multiple vortices

[idle nexus]

then, seemingly out of nowhere, boom

no more 26 book pain in the ass when you're moving

[lone mango]

Search engine ais smoking that encyclopedia pack rn

[mortal grail]

Mr wikipedia I need assistance

[idle nexus]

so what did those $500 book publishers do? started the college textbook mafia lol

[mortal grail]

Lmfao hearing reed

"WAOH!"

[idle nexus]

we will make a new edition every year & a half; we will make sure that the 99% of it that's unchanged from the previous year no longer lines up with the previous page numbers; and you will buy edition 27 for $330 even tho edition 26 came out last year & is $17 on ebay; our professor acolytes will require it; and you will deal with it

[mortal grail]

Lmao

BIG TIME TORNADO

BIG TIME TORNADO

Only dude who would be this excited

[idle nexus]

my favorite is when they come out with new editions of math books since so many innovations in algebra have happened in the last 9 months

[mortal grail]

Revolutionary maths

1+1 is now 2 and not 2.5

[idle nexus]

y no longer equals mx+b

we use w now

[mortal grail]

We only take w's now in math

[idle nexus]

see changes in latest edition on page 186 (previously page 182)

[dusk knot]

Poor wind turbines😔

[mortal grail]

Watching his hurricane footage

[idle nexus]

lol what a freaking scam dude

[mortal grail]

All the rain is bucketing down

[idle nexus]

"we have to pay the professors a lot to write it"

[mortal grail]

But the wind is so strong it doesn't stick

[idle nexus]

lol no you have to pay the professors a lot to adopt it

[mortal grail]

It just floats Away

[idle nexus]

my first year contracts book was the only textbook for $330 I don't regret buying. Those clowns who wrote it were funny as heck somehow

in the nerdiest way possible but still

I wish I could remember some examples

I am so tired of polishing copper. I think I'm just gonna say to heck with it & put it back together & keep rgb off or something

[mortal grail]

Lol

I went and redid a loop a couple days ago

Makes me so glad I'm doing the a3 in standard cooling

[idle nexus]

I gotta put some sealant or something on this so I never do it again

[mortal grail]

A loop in this tiny thing, I'd need so many different parts

[idle nexus]

I bet

[mortal grail]

I'd want that ek d5 pump block sff combo

[idle nexus]

my first build I had like a new amazon shipment coming every day with parts I didn't get