general-chat

[safe cape]

5700x good

[frosty sinew]

i havent gamed in months

no time

42 hr a week summer job

[safe cape]

but if its +50$ more

meh

[frosty sinew]

12 hour shifts

im dead

[paper verge]

"Corsair K60 is the Honda Civic of mechanical keyboards"

💀

[mortal grail]

Hahaha

I totally get that

[frosty sinew]

is 3700x decent compared to 5700x

@mortal grail nice 5700x guy got back to me

200cad i can prob get lik 175

[safe cape]

i think worse than 5600x

[frosty sinew]

oof

[sinful blade]

@mortal grail can you do a small favour

Can you make me a build for $900 and a build for fiancé at $800

[warped crest]

how did my c drive go from 182-178 gigs... ik storage fluctuates but damn

[last mango]

TV was fixed.

[proud jackal]

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

ah moment

[dusk knot]

🤔

[keen vapor]

Can anyone provide some help

[wind quail]

You might wanna provide details and I recommend we pop over to #building-and-recc-chat

[keen vapor]

Bet

[rancid juniper]

the 0x129 microcode update is insane, i managed to pull a greater undervolt @grand kernel @idle nexus @mortal grail

gonna see if i can go lower

[proud jackal]

Ordered gmk samurai keycaps

[safe cape]

red or blue ?

[proud jackal]

Blu

[safe cape]

good

[dusk knot]

violet

[safe cape]

good

[rancid juniper]

ok it went down to 131w

[idle nexus]

uhh

https://tenor.com/view/fd-gif-25482735

[idle nexus]

free AMD Zen 3, 4, & 5 performance uplift apparently https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/ryzen-9000-series-community-update-gaming-performance/ba-p/704054

[wary fjord]

cant feel it

[misty sparrow]

you feelin it now, mr krabs?

[idle nexus]

lmao we need to talk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachael_Gunn

[idle nexus]

memory integrity disabled...?

[deep parcel]

thats kinda insane that it has so many reviews in the past 3 days

[sinful blade]

Where

[idle nexus]

lol uh did you read it?

the Windows Insider Preview ISO

supposedly has like optimizations for branch predictions

can you tell I'm parroting what I heard? I don't actually know what that means; how it would help; or whether it even could help lol

[gentle canyon]

whoever remembers my audio issues ive been having

i plugged in different headphones

and i have audio in the games that werent working

like my old turtle beach ones i used with my xbox

[sinful blade]

I didn’t read
I’m dumb

[idle nexus]

TLDR just read here

[sinful blade]

Thought that was just for 9000

[opaque sedge]

How tf do u beat the valkyries in god of war

I have to go to easy mode and it still takes me 10 tries

[sinful blade]

Yolo it

[opaque sedge]

And i have to revive each time

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-gif-27114594

[granite estuary]

Hello

[granite estuary]

Thanos

[wary fjord]

screen rant wants diversity in this game lol xD

why is that even a xD requirement in a game

[rancid juniper]

there are a bunch of animals and mythical entities in the game

what are they smoking is beyond me

[tacit geode]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-cat-stare-cat-look-staring-cat-gif-2234218620804077902

[last mango]

So an update for the LG TV. Techician said something inside the TV came loose

But alas it's fixed

[empty tide]

Thanks windows I hate it

[craggy shoal]

Am I blind? What's wrong with it?

[rancid juniper]

i think task manager tricked him

it seems that he's running 32gb ram instead of 64

supposed to be something like this

[craggy shoal]

Bruh I see it now 💀💀💀

Yeah I see it lmao

[rancid juniper]

heh

[tacit geode]

https://images.morrenus.xyz/reku3/fuReLeNi13.png

i love this thing

[rancid juniper]

hol up

[empty tide]

64 gb installed. Bios shows 64 gb. Windows says there's 64 but 32 is ""hardware reserved""

[paper verge]

sup guys

yall know if VIA-programmable stuff are also available on linux?

[empty tide]

Its ether windows not allowing me to use the other 32gb of ram, or something is damaged on my motherboard because I can confirm all 4 sticks work, and are the same make model and speed

[storm narwhal]

Via is just done through the browser

Chrome specifically

[paper verge]

ah nice thnx

[tacit geode]

connectx4

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/networking/ethernet/connectx-4-lx/

[rancid juniper]

ethernet from nvidia

mkay

[tacit geode]

goes from my desktop to server

then my server connects to my switch which connects to the rotuer which connects to the ONU which provides all the interwebs

at 2.2GBPS

[frail cypress]

Anyone here use a Acer Nitro V?

[tacit geode]

some will say overkill

[rancid juniper]

i see...

[tacit geode]

@rancid juniper https://discord.com/channels/820480882250481664/1222899751159205909

you should be able to see that

[rancid juniper]

i guess check system info

[tacit geode]

no but whats the question

[rancid juniper]

thats alot of tests heh, very quick speeds

[tacit geode]

https://images.morrenus.xyz/reku3/FinEDoPE72.png

something seems wonky

hmmm

does it seem slightly blurry?

[rancid juniper]

ye

[idle nexus]

they should've included other animals ig

[idle nexus]

does this make your GPU run at x8?

[idle nexus]

Palworld FTW

except I have stupid GamePass version

so none of the .pak mods work right lately

[tacit geode]

maybe?

idk

give sec

[idle nexus]

cuz some IO Store thing they changed to on GP version but reverted on Steam version

[tacit geode]

@idle nexus https://images.morrenus.xyz/reku3/MAHUHeti53.png

looks like no

well

[idle nexus]

.lua mods work fine but .pak is .b.o.r.k.e.d

[tacit geode]

it was 16

when i took ss it wenty down

[idle nexus]

it's fine that's just it chillin cuz it's not doing anything

if you click that little questionmark there

[tacit geode]

erm

its still 4x

wtf

[idle nexus]

you can run a like tiny render thing so it'll show you what it runs at when it's actually doing something

[tacit geode]

hang on

furmark

[idle nexus]

can just use this

don't gotta go all nuclear option lmao

[tacit geode]

still showing 4

[idle nexus]

wait showing x16 4.0?

cuz that's fine

it's the number after the x that matters

[tacit geode]

yeah

oh

IM tired

sorry barely any sleep

baby will do that

[idle nexus]

no worries

haha I remember that

[tacit geode]

i read it backwards

[idle nexus]

mine just started 2nd grade

[tacit geode]

i also run z790 so maybe thats why it doesnt go down?

[idle nexus]

don't worry it sucks but it doesn't last thaaat long

[tacit geode]

or

i dont know

[idle nexus]

I wouldn't worry about it going down

just if it stays there lol

[tacit geode]

cause that network card is running at x8 too

[idle nexus]

damn that's pretty nice

what if you like, put all 4 LAN connections from your router? would that make it any faster? lmao

[tacit geode]

its 2x sfp

so it wouldn't do anything

at most i could do full 50gbps from server

https://images.morrenus.xyz/reku3/JepAdezi82.png

[idle nexus]

I've been meaning to set up a server lol

[tacit geode]

mines on a 5900x and i still want to switch to something with IGPU

but havent done it

server has 72tb storage too

128gb ram and 4tb nvme for game servers

[idle nexus]

kicking my ass lmao

[tacit geode]

i only really use at most 2.5gbps

so lol

[idle nexus]

what games do you host?

[craggy shoal]

Worth it

[idle nexus]

I had a 5900x MC server for like 3 days lol

[craggy shoal]

I want to make another MC server but I’m waiting for my friend group to get back together

[tacit geode]

@idle nexus https://images.morrenus.xyz/reku3/sUWeJIZi85.png what do you think

[tacit geode]

Minecraft Satisfactory and 7DTD

[icy ore]

we're terrible about starting a MC world and playing for like a couple weeks and then never touching it again

put all that time and effort into it for nufin

[idle nexus]

425w TDP?

[tacit geode]

yeah

it was on normal bios

forgot about that

it was always on OC

[craggy shoal]

I could host a server for Newegg but I would probably break this server’s rules in the MC server lol. It would have to be a sub server but I’d imagine that would also be against Newegg’s rules lmao

[tacit geode]

no real worth

i had one up afte rforks took down

and it sat empty for 4-5 months

[light egret]

Yeah there was one up a long time ago as I recall

[idle nexus]

this 3080ti is 400w & I always have it at max which is 450w

[craggy shoal]

I remember that one lol

[tacit geode]

until someone complained it was down after 3 months of it being down lol

ggood

https://images.morrenus.xyz/reku3/FUyOYUHa06.png

[idle nexus]

my 4090 hit 746w

[craggy shoal]

I mean I could host one but it would be in a sub server

[tacit geode]

i could too atm since i have ways to mask my ip better now

[craggy shoal]

I would just host mine via Tailscale lol (more secure this way imo)

[tacit geode]

right now its sitting at 475

https://images.morrenus.xyz/reku3/maSIBUha51.png

also this is funny tho...

50 more watts 4 degrees more

[craggy shoal]

damb what kind of cooling are you using? 💀

[tacit geode]

3090 has that 360 rad

[craggy shoal]

Gotcha that makes sense

[tacit geode]

the case is a neso p1 from gamdias

https://www.gamdias.com/en/component/case/NESO_P1_BW

still need to clean the case and take pics

[light egret]

man So I bought this Razr+ 2023 phone a while back and the first one screen broke (not because of me, like it glitched out) in a month, so I returned it but had to pay like $325 to get a replacement. The new one charger port broke after a week. I left it and just used wireless charger cause I wasn't gonna pay another 325 for this dumb phone. I finally decided to just buy a port replacement and replace it myself. I've done charger replacements before as well as many other phone repairs and never had an issue. It came apart and went back together super smooth, no issues. Charger works now. But neither of the screens work at all now. The screen stuff is all in the top half which I did not take apart. I've done everything I can think of to fix this stupid thing and now its a $1000 paperweight. 😩 or $1325 if you count the replacement cost of the original. I'm never buying Motorola again.

[idle nexus]

I need to take my GPU out & redo memory pads

[tacit geode]

i wanna switch off intel

due tot he issue

[light egret]

you gotta go to headquarters to find light switches in order to turn em off

now imagine someone so mad at intel they just sneak in and just keep turning off lights around the office building

[tacit geode]

i wanna get a 9000 amd

but hmm

[rancid juniper]

AMD 9000 series didn't get a good look after launch

very little improvement it seems

[tacit geode]

well better than a slowly degrading 13700kf

[rancid juniper]

cant deny that

lol

[tacit geode]

best part i just need to swap my motherboard and cpu

no ram needed to swap

maybe cooler

[rancid juniper]

all 13/14th gen cpus are slowly rotting away

actual zombie cpus

[tacit geode]

tho tbh kinda wish there was a x3d version taht would be worth getting

is there?

i dont really follow stuff anymore

7000 series?

[idle nexus]

7800X3D remains king afik for gaming

[tacit geode]

ok i may look into getting that as a replacement

[idle nexus]

now whether that changes when 9000X3D launches remains to be seen

[tacit geode]

is there an eta on that?

[idle nexus]

given that the 9xxx non-3d haven't been all that impressive

[tacit geode]

what motherboard would you go with

ah crap i realized something

i have 4xnvme in raid 0

ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS

seems good

[rancid juniper]

we may get a 9000 x3d chip maybe late this year

honestly amd should've released the x3d lineup first

._.

[idle nexus]

there are 4 NVMe slots in my X670E Taichi that's reasonably priced

[tacit geode]

yeah the x670e plus has 4

[idle nexus]

X870E should be out soon but the only advantage to it is newer USB thing

[tacit geode]

i dont need that

i just need something that works

[fair onyx]

@idle nexus Please help me... If you can. Remember the GPU mem bluescreen issue?

well, its back, and its not going away...

[light egret]

have you checked for gpu driver updates

[fair onyx]

wait a sec...

It might not be my VRAM, it might be my system RAM

[light egret]

what is the actual error code

[fair onyx]

MEMORY_MANAGEMENT

this is the third time its happened. 1 time a week ago, and 2 times back to back now

Ok, just happened a third time in a row. So 4 times now

[light egret]

try MEMTest86 and make sure you get 8 full passes

[fair onyx]

As much as I have avoided doing that, looks like it's my only option. Time to find out if I need to buy RAM I can't afford, an Mobo I can't afford, or a new GPU I can't afford

[light egret]

you could also check event viewer, click find, and search for memory diagnostic and see if there are any errors.

windows logs>system, then click find

[fair onyx]

Oh god, my event viewer is an absolute nightmare of errors and warnings

oh my godddd, thousands and thousands of them

[empty tide]

Oh dear

[fair onyx]

16,345 events

[empty tide]

Event viewer jumpscare

[fair onyx]

I don't even know what to do right now

I already know either my RAM or my Mobo is faulty

[light egret]

actually

im googling and it might be windows

do you have win10

[fair onyx]

yes

but that doesn't explain why half of my RAM just... disappears

[light egret]

check to see if you have any windows updates

[light egret]

ok did you get any ram errors in your thing

[light egret]

that's when you search for memory?

[fair onyx]

I have no idea how to even search in here 😓

[fair onyx]

oh, this

sorry

The computer has rebooted from a bugcheck. The bugcheck was: 0x0000001a (0x0000000000042001, 0xffffad8eda486650, 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000). A dump was saved in: C:\Windows\MEMORY.DMP. Report Id: abe893cb-8ce4-413a-be52-87ffea326a32.

[light egret]

yeh cause I have some errors in mine too all throughout but my pc work fine

[fair onyx]

yeah, but do you have like... 100 in one minute?

[light egret]

no 😅

here is a list of things you can try: https://www.drivereasy.com/knowledge/memory-management-blue-screen-of-death-on-windows-10-solved/#f1

if those don't work I would do memtest, then if that doesn't help or fails, take a stick of ram out, check, then swap, then check, then if you have alternate gpu or integrated, check without gpu, etc

[fair onyx]

I would not be surprised if it is GPU driver related. I have been apprehensive to upgrading my GPU driver, as this is the ONLY ONE I have found that doesn't have dual GPU IO drop out issues

[light egret]

do you have dual gpu?

what do you mean by that

[fair onyx]

yeah

[light egret]

why

[fair onyx]

I have 2 GPU's in my syste for my job

*system

[light egret]

oh

weird

what do you do that needs 2 gpus

[fair onyx]

Machine learning and AI tasks

[light egret]

oh neat

[fair onyx]

I am trying to get a second 3090, but I am worried this 3090 is dying

[light egret]

just get a 4090

oh

[fair onyx]

4090 is meh for AI

[light egret]

lol it was a joke

[fair onyx]

4090 is a horrible value

its a ever so slightly faster 3090 that costs like 3-4x as much

I have a 3090 and a 3060ti at the moment

[light egret]

I could be wrong but I believe windows doesn't play well with dual gpus so that might be your issue

[fair onyx]

I have had it like this for over a year, and I have had some IO issues for a while, but that was NVIDIA driver related (its no better on Linux)

I just happened to update to this driver, which hasn't had any of those issues, but I am worried there might be something wrong with it

aside from that, there is for sure something wrong with my Mobo/RAM, that I know for a fact

[tacit geode]

ok imma say it

do you ever not have issues?

[fair onyx]

I will update my GPU drivers. Even if it causes IO issues, I would rather that than not being able to use my PC at all

[fair onyx]

I had a long stretch of no issues. Like 2 years, and then since I have had a dual GPU system, I have occasional pop ups of issues

[tacit geode]

nvidia's site sucks for gpu drivers now

jesus christ

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/

[fair onyx]

I had the IO issues, which are well known and just a down side of having dual GPU

And now I am having my mem and (potentially) GPU issues at the same time

[idle nexus]

my bad I was going to war with a Roku real quick

I think it's time for update lol

what's the issue? what does event viewer say?

[fair onyx]

what doesn't It say

thousands of errors and warnings

[north crescent]

nvcleanstall is best

[fair onyx]

just today, 418 events, most of which are errors

[tacit geode]

i know but i already iinstalled it

next time

[fair onyx]

@tacit geodeI don't even remember you by the way. Did you used to go by something else?

[tacit geode]

Dallas

[fair onyx]

oh, right

[idle nexus]

holy heck

what does DeviceSetupManager say for like the details?

[fair onyx]

its all different versions of this

different numbers and strings in each

[idle nexus]

what do Service Control Manager ones say?

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/M00DGjAP-mU?si=0mmaRh05u5aidymP

[fair onyx]

alright, I am reluctantly updating my GPU drivers

[idle nexus]

damn you're not alone here

plenty of these

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/metadata-staging-failed-result0x80070490-for/73130c25-0414-4925-8368-ee42c731d554?page=19

[fair onyx]

I am so overwhelmed with what to do. All of these issues just kinda sprung out of nowhere. I assume they are all related to my mobo/RAM being faulty, whichever one is the culprit

[idle nexus]

in Windows update, what's installed recently?

these people are complaining it's the result of an update

note the date in the picture lol

[fair onyx]

this general error happened a week or two ago for the first time, and then stopped

and now its doing it non stop back to back

and my RAM started disappearing like... 2-3 months ago?

[tacit geode]

well

i have tons of errors too

related to other things

mostly the fact that windows wants to control rgb for a device thats disconnected

XD

[idle nexus]

DistributedCOM? I hate those cuz they're nonsense lol

[idle nexus]

sorry, remind me again which CPU?

[fair onyx]

12600k

[light egret]

yeah I got a ton of distributedcom errors lol

[idle nexus]

those are just permissions nonsense

[tacit geode]

Metadata staging failed, result=0x80070490 for container '{00000000-0000-0000-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF}'

wat

i think its fine

i have a bunch of those now too

tho i just updated drivers

https://images.morrenus.xyz/reku3/daNEloBi32.png

[idle nexus]

hmm you might wanna bump system agent voltage in BIOS a tad bit... have you cleared CMOS & reenabled XMP or anything like that to see if it helps?

heck I just randomly lost internet

computers are heckers

[fair onyx]

I can;t change voltage at all on this mobo, and I haven't done XMP again cause every time my other half of my RAM dies, it resets

[tacit geode]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-what-confused-meh-gif-12007368131756137942

what kind of motherboard do you have?

dell?

[idle nexus]

tried swapping the DIMMs into different slots to see if it's the DIMMs themselves?

[fair onyx]

Its intel B760. I can't over volt, under volt, power limit change, boost change, anything. I can basically look at my CPU name and thats it

[tacit geode]

jesus

i never go that low

[fair onyx]

good for you I guess

I couldn't afford a $300+ mobo at the time

[tacit geode]

well some of those start at 150?

[idle nexus]

do they still make H boards? B760 shouldn't be that limited

[tacit geode]

only $300+ motherboard i own is a x570master

[fair onyx]

I have the mobo I have

[idle nexus]

lol uh no comment

bios updated?

[fair onyx]

I haven't checked particularly recently

it was like... 8 months ago?

but I don't think a behind BIOS will suddenly start not working, if the issues wasn't there from the start. Might be wrong on that tho

[light egret]

i think it can but highly unlikely

but im not an expert

[fair onyx]

I am gonna be doing memtest now

[tacit geode]

so

what exactly is happening?

the errors in eventviewer?

[fair onyx]

oh, I need a USB flashdrive. I don't have one of those at the moment 😭

[light egret]

BSOD

[tacit geode]

oh

then yeah

[fair onyx]

2 separate (I think) issues

[light egret]

MEMORY_MANAGEMENT error

[tacit geode]

ok i mis understood

[idle nexus]

it's not an H610 board so it shouldn't be really bad

[tacit geode]

i thought it was related to the eventviewer

so i was so confused you were going this all out for those errors

[light egret]

the event viewer was just to hopefully see what was going wrong. Event viewer said "yes"

[idle nexus]

what the heck

I keep losing internet & reconnecting... dunno why I'm trying to send this since oh wait it's back

[tacit geode]

yikes

so many issues in General CHat today

[fair onyx]

1: Half of my system memory just vanishes sometimes when I start my PC. It shows only 1 stick installed, it disables XMP, and it doesn't even throw an error or anything

2: My GPU keeps causing BSOD's for mem management whenever its VRAM capacity gets above ~11GB. I am not sure if that is because the GPU is hitting a specific limit, or the system RAM has issues, which is being tripped up on it

[light egret]

it sounds to me like it's time to just burn it and build a whole new one

[tacit geode]

how much mem does the gpus have

[fair onyx]

24GB

[rancid juniper]

https://wccftech.com/intel-ready-to-take-second-crack-discrete-gaming-gpus-arc-battlemage-xe2-larger-configs-faster-memory-bigger-caches/

yes

YES

[fair onyx]

It shows as still having 24GB, but in programs that use CUDA allocation, it will say insufficient space

For example, an error I got was along the lines of:

CUDA DEVICE OUT OF MOMORY. Tried to allocate 20MiB, available capacity 12.7GiB, insufficient space

[wide jolt]

Anyone know where to get a recommendation for a good gaming PC that wont be out of date in a year, etc? Want to run Raft, Gmod, AW2, RDR2, Res Evil

[fair onyx]

so it will say I have 12GB free, but 20MB can't fit in it. And programs that don't use precalced allocation will instant BSOD

[fair onyx]

honestly exciting to see

[rancid juniper]

same

[light egret]

im always down to see more competition

[rancid juniper]

i would love to try these gpus out

[fair onyx]

I seriously have no idea what to do right now. I am so defeated. I bought this new PC to get rid of issues like this that plagued my old PC cause of its fault mobo issues. Here I am, having arguably even worse issues now

[icy ore]

[mortal grail]

Might be a program bug

[fair onyx]

its way worse than that. But I do wish

[mortal grail]

If it can report you have free vram

But the bugcheck is "no vram left"

Bug is my immediate suspicion

[fair onyx]

Would be a pretty big bug to be BSODing my PC, and be affecting all prograns

[mortal grail]

Well...we talked about remapping issues

If not the program itself, or some sort of software conflict

Potentially that, maybe the clock it runs at is too fast

Trips a chip as it pools to vram

Can't recover

Aggressive vram downclock might reveal something if it's stability related

Nvidia drivers don't always recover using a black screen error, if the lockup is big enough the pc will reboot

Takes a very big degree of instability to do that on a 3090 but I've done it before

Multi monitor in fact makes it hilariously easy with surround

[fair onyx]

I'm alaready so insanely overwhelmed and defeated, and all of this additional information is just overwhelming me even more. Seems like no matter what I try to do in my career, I just keep getting a kick in the teeth every second of every day

[mortal grail]

I mean, can't diagnose a problem without trying more ideas

[proud jackal]

fix me

[mortal grail]

Your problem sounds so unique I doubt any normal tech would know what to do

They'd probably write the gpu off

[fair onyx]

I am just not sure what all to try. I need my computer to be running, and doing all of these superficial tests will be a great way to waste an insane amount of time and energy that I should be dedicating to making myself a viable career

It just sucks so damn bad

[mortal grail]

Have you tried swapping to the other ram slots

[fair onyx]

no, I haven't. Mainly cause I will have to completely unplug my PC, remove it from where its being stored, and then disassemble the whole thing to get to it (both GPU's, and the CPU cooler), which will be a ton of down time

[mortal grail]

Well, we've been over this how many times now? Gotta start trying these things man

[light egret]

aside from that, if you can get away with it for a lil bit, I would try running a single gpu and see if the problem just magically goes away

[mortal grail]

I can't offer ideas if we don't try changing boundary conditions

[fair onyx]

its definitely not dual GPU, that much I know, cause I usually have my second GPU completely powered off

[mortal grail]

Unplugged?

[fair onyx]

power supply off

I have to use two different PSU's. One powers my second GPU

[mortal grail]

Then it should effectively be single gpu

[fair onyx]

Yeah

I have a big feeling all of this has to do with my Mobo/RAM being faulty

[mortal grail]

Still suggest swapping ram slots, if it trips again, both conditions at once, suspect a vram chip

[fair onyx]

its likely something to do with that has damaged my drivers from inconsistencies (I was having realyl bad crashes yesterday)

[mortal grail]

If one not the other, ram stick/slot

Or still vram chip

[fair onyx]

That really does sound like a lot of work to be told its the same things already suspected 😓

Thats what I was meaning about down time

I'm not saying I won't, of course. I am just really defeated right now

[mortal grail]

I don't have better ideas at this point

If this was an a100 instead, we could consider some sort of ecc error

Even the motherboard is a bit suspect

But it's not the first on the list

Gotta start with the possible small problems

[fair onyx]

I think this all stems for sure from the memory. There is a severe memory issue somehwere. Whether in software, in hardware, firmware, IDK. But I am hoping its that, and not my GPU dying. Cause if its my GPU dying, then I quit. I will resign from my career fully, and just burn the last 2 years of my work for all I care

[mortal grail]

Well downclocking the vram is the easiest idea

Download afterburner and stick -500 or -1000 on the vram clock

[fair onyx]

Its already at lowest DDR5 speed from what I know

oh, VRAM

sorry

[mortal grail]

Yes not dram

Gpu vram pool error, I'm suspicious of the card more

[fair onyx]

I am doing some really important work right now, and constantly blue screens are gonna be a nightmare. Let me grab my laptop and see if I can do this stuff on it instead

[sinful blade]

Tongues are so frickin weird man

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vJqfN6 @mortal grail how’s this

[mortal grail]

I think even if the card had a problem, if you found a shop that could repair same day you could get it fixed for maybe a hundred, hundred fifty

[fair onyx]

Dead VRAM?

[mortal grail]

Downtime sucks but there's no fix for a dose of reality

Reball vram chip yes

[fair onyx]

hmm... No shot for same day, but I could at least ship it off or something

[mortal grail]

Nvidia cards run to specific row mapping when it pools, technically if the chip died you're better off as it won't read the vram as there

[fair onyx]

Ok, I got my laptop. I can do this stupid stuff on my laptop, and go back to crashing my desktop over and over

[mortal grail]

Change case and it looks fine

Argb-q5

[fair onyx]

I know for sure that a VRAM down clock isn't gonna fix this issue, but I will do it for the sake of exhausting your recommendations @mortal grail

-502mhz

actually, wait

I can test in a way that won't BSOD me

[mortal grail]

If it's degraded instead of a poor connection bga then a downclock will reveal this

[fair onyx]

my training with CUDA allocation will OOM

[mortal grail]

If you run nand, too hot, too long, it can cause a degree of electromigration

Omg

Um

I need to go

I just felt an earthquake

[light egret]

oof

stay safe

[fair onyx]

Where are you located?

Yup

torch.cuda.OutOfMemoryError: CUDA out of memory. Tried to allocate 2.00 MiB. GPU 0 has a total capacty of 24.00 GiB of which 15.99 GiB is free. Of the allocated memory 6.45 GiB is allocated by PyTorch, and 300.67 MiB is reserved by PyTorch but unallocated. If reserved but unallocated memory is large try setting max_split_size_mb to avoid fragmentation. See documentation for Memory Management and PYTORCH_CUDA_ALLOC_CONF

@mortal grail Please stay safe. Here is the error message when you get back. This time it says I have 15.99GB free... great

[sinful blade]

Ty

[grand kernel]

what were you at before?

[tacit geode]

buy a mac

https://tenor.com/view/run-away-cute-baby-gif-15911985

[fair onyx]

Hmm... Maybe. Then I would have an even worse supported piece of hardware. Could be fun

[fervent stump]

Hockey

[idle nexus]

my bad I had to reinstall LAN drivers

this Dark KP has always been a little hecky

with networking I mean

[idle nexus]

so clear CMOS, DDU, or even heckin sfc dism does nothing

[idle nexus]

how the heck have you been bro

it's been a little while

lol

[fervent stump]

Since when were you a mod?

[idle nexus]

he's OG mod

[fervent stump]

Oh I haven’t seen him

[idle nexus]

like was already mod when I first showed up here asking dumb questions lol

[fervent stump]

That’s cool so a long long time

[idle nexus]

about my (verbatim) Intel one zero nine zero zero K

first time in voice chat someone told me, "dude, just say 10 900 K"

I'm like oh

cuz I was talking about it & it got pretty annoying lol

"so that works on a one zero nine zero zero K?"

[sinful blade]

Me with my ryzen 3 1300x

[idle nexus]

I still remember that time I thought silicon & silicone were the same thing

12100F arrives 8/27

[iron lynx]

Can someone do this question plss the bluebook explains bad

[rancid juniper]

i believe it was around 140w/1.110v

the 131w undervolt is unstable thanks to OCCT linpack

my new stable voltage is now 1.100v

[elfin mural]

^ asian parents be like when their kid plays 1 min over time

[rancid juniper]

XD

[tranquil pebble]

Is there any good way to automate restarting explorer when it exceeds a certain amount of RAM used?

[storm narwhal]

task scheduler?

i have no specifics but that would be my first guess

[mortal grail]

Changing the config file doesn't change the outcome?

Also I'm fine

[icy ore]

[fair onyx]

config file?

[mortal grail]

The error spits to a config file for pytorch

Can you edit it to increase the limit?

Need a hex editor and rehash?

[fair onyx]

oh, no, I can't

its not a fixed value or something I set

when I don't have this GPU mem error, it just... works

[grand kernel]

been working on projects it's been going well

[fair onyx]

The requirement is determined by the params of what I am running. There isn't a way to cap it or change it or anything

[grand kernel]

can't say the same for my 13700K

[grand kernel]

neat

i'll have to find some time to try it out

[rancid juniper]

👍

lemme do one run now

[fair onyx]

forgot to reply directly @mortal grail

[tacit geode]

wassup

[mortal grail]

Maybe it's core stability

Downclock gpu core too

[idle nexus]

glad to hear. heck you're what? junior now?

[mortal grail]

You can get memory errors like that benchmarking things like ycruncher for ram

[rancid juniper]

@grand kernel hopefully last UV post of my 13600k, this is how much the cpu cranked out

[fair onyx]

I can really assure you its not that. Why would core satbility throw a memory error, and specifically error out at a specific capacity?

[idle nexus]

you're getting new CPU?

[rancid juniper]

no no

[mortal grail]

Oh

@idle nexus

EK just died

[idle nexus]

memory can break everything lol

good riddance

[rancid juniper]

dont get me started with ram

[idle nexus]

take Jay with em plz

[rancid juniper]

glad mines is stable

[fair onyx]

IDK why I can never just have good RAM. This is the third time I have had critical RAM issues on 2 PC's

[mortal grail]

Just getting more info rn

[idle nexus]

any common denominator between the two PCs?

PSU, GPU, etc.?

[fair onyx]

Nope, all entirely different hardware

[mortal grail]

Oh yeah

[tacit geode]

well no crap

[mortal grail]

Check the ek reddit

[tacit geode]

they've been dead since like april

[mortal grail]

Orders aren't being met

[tacit geode]

lol

[idle nexus]

oh wow

[mortal grail]

Yeah I know that

This is a level worse

Insolvency signs

I don't have a confirmed source yet

[idle nexus]

well heck, no more RMAs for me lol

[mortal grail]

Fanatec and recaro went under the same business pattern a few months ago

[idle nexus]

damn bclk 102 didn't POST

[rancid juniper]

man i feel very sorry for the i3-12100

it won't see it coming

[idle nexus]

I should probably drop memory down one bin lol

[fair onyx]

@mortal grailI'm doing the GPU driver re-install right now

[storm narwhal]

it's not gonna see anything coming it doesn't have eyes

[idle nexus]

why? I'm just going to rip its IHS off & try to force it to run memory at 8k+ & see how high core clocks can go before it hits 100C

[grand kernel]

nah i got 1 quarter left before graduating

[idle nexus]

dude time flies wow

[rancid juniper]

however, its gonna feel a huge voltage bump

[idle nexus]

what's the next move?

[rancid juniper]

getting a job at nvidia whilst messing with drivers maybe

[idle nexus]

I'm so annoyed that X3D doesn't keep boosting if there's thermal headroom

[fair onyx]

||Probably find a job that doesn't utilize the degree he got at all ||

[storm narwhal]

"Unlimited power" aah scene

[idle nexus]

57C? boost you heckin bad word

[rancid juniper]

i keep hearing horror stories of people with good PHDs only to never land a suitable job

huh?

[rancid juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

i3 CRACKED edition

[storm narwhal]

no no no NO YOU WILL DIE

[rancid juniper]

haha voltage GO UP

[idle nexus]

my G7400 is still fine

[rancid juniper]

i mean

[idle nexus]

it hit 100C lol

[rancid juniper]

oh

yikes...

[storm narwhal]

it's screaming

[mortal grail]

Ohp I figured it out

[rancid juniper]

i can visualize ggood smirking as he sees the cpu engulfed in flames

☠️

[mortal grail]

Slovenian authorities have been investigating into EKWB as of two weeks ago

[mortal grail]

They sent more notice to employees that payments for wages can't be made until october

[storm narwhal]

Kenobi and Anakin on Mustafar aah scene

[mortal grail]

The accounts have been frozen

[idle nexus]

5.6ghz G7400

[mortal grail]

In other words

[rancid juniper]

._.

[idle nexus]

oh wow EK is hecked

[mortal grail]

EK sounds like it's been repo'd

[storm narwhal]

oh god what has EK been up to

[mortal grail]

Frozen for insolvency entirely

[idle nexus]

time to file bankruptcy & pay its creditors with whatever can be sold off

[mortal grail]

They lied.

[idle nexus]

maybe der8aur will buy it or something

[fair onyx]

@mortal grail

[mortal grail]

https://overclock3d.net/news/cases_cooling/ek-water-blocks-faces-investigation-over-delayed-payments-to-employees/

[fair onyx]

It seems to be working after the driver update

[idle nexus]

well you plant uh crap seeds you get crap weeds

[fair onyx]

I can only assume that all the severe crashes my RAM was causing last night with the HDD page must have destroyed my driver

[storm narwhal]

They should have watercooled their brains

[rancid juniper]

sometimes you wonder if its actually worth getting a job in the tech industry

[mortal grail]

If it happens whenever you update drivers then always ddu

[storm narwhal]

maybe then they would have understood how bad this would be

[mortal grail]

3090 gave me a huge headache with driver problems

[fair onyx]

my GPU driver crashed like 30 times last night. That was cause of the HDD paging issues I had. I had basically everything paged to my HDD. I fixed that now. That was hell

[mortal grail]

4090 does too but I believe the 40 card may have been caused by a faulty chipset board

[fair onyx]

I had over 11GB paged to my HDD. It was so bad even snipping tool took like 20+ seconds to start

Now I disabled HDD page and have it on my fastest and most free SSD

[mortal grail]

Funny how they issued an apology, did nothing about it and no one said anything

[rancid juniper]

tf is going on here?

[storm narwhal]

binbows michaelsoft moment

[fair onyx]

It was a nightmare, cause cause I only had 32GB RAM, it was constantly paging cause I kept running out of RAM. Man it sucked lol

[rancid juniper]

i suppose to be crashing more than both of yall thanks to my intel 13th gen + amd combo

💀

[idle nexus]

btw Felix do you disable iGPU? that helped with FCLK heckin on 5600g but might be comparing apples & oranges ig

[storm narwhal]

turns out the pagefile was just slow as hell

[mortal grail]

Yes

[fair onyx]

@mortal grail nevermind. Blue screened again

[rancid juniper]

bro has it rough

[idle nexus]

5600g before AMD Adrenaline drivers installed was memory monster

[tacit geode]

I wonder how the floppa is

[fair onyx]

Haven't talked to him in a long time

[rancid juniper]

4933MHZ!?!?!?!?

[tacit geode]

slow

[idle nexus]

this was gonna be my dad's memory OC until I realized Adrenaline drivers super borked it

[rancid juniper]

bro is crankin dat ddr4 stick

[tacit geode]

this pc slow

https://images.morrenus.xyz/reku3/petUKAwE35.png

[idle nexus]

wait jk

this was

[rancid juniper]

that pc will last you a decade

[tacit geode]

lol

no

its a 13th gen intel

[rancid juniper]

my guy im running DDR4

[tacit geode]

itll last a few more years

XD

[rancid juniper]

real

[tacit geode]

before its as slow as your pc

[idle nexus]

ignore my terrible timings. That was June 13, 2022 lol

[rancid juniper]

my pc will last longer because my cpu is starving for voltage

[idle nexus]

hmm longevity... never really thought about it tbh

[tacit geode]

mine is cause intel is a crap compnay

[fair onyx]

I was gonna say you're being elitest, and then I realized that you're right. That CPU is lucky if it keeps working at all

[tacit geode]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-point-gif-23257114

[rancid juniper]

i dont think ill buy any cpus from them for a while

[fair onyx]

Really glad I went 12600k over 13400

[tacit geode]

im gonna get probably an x3d chip

[rancid juniper]

only excited for their battlemage lineup IF they don't mess it up

[fair onyx]

Alderlake is like super stable

[tacit geode]

https://www.newegg.com/amd-ryzen-7-7800x3d-ryzen-7-7000-series-raphael-zen-4-socket-am5/p/N82E16819113793?Item=N82E16819113793

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-x670e-plus-wifi-atx-amd-motherboard-amd-x670e-am5/p/N82E16813119586?Item=N82E16813119586

those two

[idle nexus]

lol if AMD can mess up 9xxx launch while Intel is selling broken CPUs, anyone can

[mortal grail]

Would consider swapping ram stick slots

[rancid juniper]

amd when given the opportunity will mess themselves up

how idk?

its freaking impressive

[idle nexus]

does your computer bug out with two sticks?

[tacit geode]

x3d is slower than the 13700kf

tho

[rancid juniper]

what

[tacit geode]

single threaded

[idle nexus]

eh not in gaming

[rancid juniper]

oh

[idle nexus]

no AMD CPU hits 6ghz

[tacit geode]

oh wow only 16 threads

neato

[idle nexus]

yet 7800x3d beats 14900KS in gaming

[rancid juniper]

really no need for 6ghz

just add more cache lol

[idle nexus]

I need 6ghz dammit

[rancid juniper]

nah

[idle nexus]

I want 7

lol

but what I reallllly need

[rancid juniper]

i swear the 14900ks probably wrecks itself in less than 5 months

[idle nexus]

is 10k+ DDR5 <3

[rancid juniper]

actually no, 1

[oak gale]

i've accidently cut the internet cable wired up to the anntena ( WHY IS IT CONNECTED TO THE TOP OF THE SCREEN ) ajd somehow my internet still works but only when i sit next to the router

[oak gale]

why is that

[idle nexus]

how do you accidentally cut an antenna?

[oak gale]

no

the cable

like

[idle nexus]

just strip it back & splice it back together

[rancid juniper]

coax?

[rancid juniper]

💯

just use flex tape

[idle nexus]

heat shrink would be ideal but electric tape will get you by

[fair onyx]

Yeah... I guess I have no other choice anymore. I'll have to tear my whole PC apart in order to test that

[idle nexus]

I had windows totally crap out on me

do you have enough space to put a partition & put windows dual boot there

[fair onyx]

I had that happen many years ago too. Windows ate the entire file system

[idle nexus]

to see if windows is the problem

[fair onyx]

I could put it on my hard drive. I know its not ideal, but I could do it just to see

[rancid juniper]

you're telling me, an OS got too hungry?

😂

[fair onyx]

that way its on its own drive too

[idle nexus]

I reinstall windows like 2-3x a year

it's my only compelling reason to keep onedrive

[rancid juniper]

pain

[idle nexus]

instead of worrying about backing stuff up I just put it all on stinky OneDrive

so reinstalling windows becomes more like upgrading a phone

[fair onyx]

I'm curious. Lets see if using my second GPU crashes me too, or if its just the 3090

Thats about all I can do without tearing my whole PC apart right now. And its way too late to do that

[idle nexus]

I dunno if win10 or win11 will run right on an HDD anymore tho

[fair onyx]

Driving hard or hardly driving?

[rancid juniper]

no need for hdd

for os

[fair onyx]

Also, I try to say it frequently, but thank you to all of you guys who have been trying to help. I appreciate it a lot. You guys are flat out my heros, even if I am not always in the best head space

I can see if I can shovel off the stuff from my 512GB SSD onto my HDD and use the SSD for dual boot. Been curious about Linux cause its mostly better for AI

[idle nexus]

I always feel bad accepting a "thank you" when I haven't solved the problem but that's a me problem. What I mean to say is, you're welcome & I'm happy to [try to] help

[fair onyx]

The thank you is specifically for the effort, cause its not something you guys owe me in any way, so it is massively appreciated above all else

hmm...

so the 3060ti didn't crash me

Its at 7.8GB/8GB

[idle nexus]

I knew someone who swore the only way she could make her 3090 work was to run it with CSM enabled lol

[fair onyx]

CSM?

[idle nexus]

Compatibility Support Module I think

[fair onyx]

hmm

[idle nexus]

it's basically what you use if you wanna run Windows 7 still lol

[fair onyx]

if you would be so kind as to remind me what the command is, how did we check my GPU mem in CMD before?

[idle nexus]

or old hardware

[fair onyx]

ohhh, right

[idle nexus]

is it nvidia-smi.exe in elevated cmd? I just found this now ngl

[fair onyx]

it was a command that showed the remapped sections of my VRAM or something

[idle nexus]

kinda cool actually

[fair onyx]

wait, how did you do this?

[idle nexus]

opened cmd as admin then just typed in

Nvidia-smi.exe

[fair onyx]

huh, interesting

ah, my power limit is on the 3090. Its real TDP is 420 watts

in the non OC BIOS

I'm gonna try something real quick. I'm curious

[idle nexus]

oh you know

I've had 3080ti acting strange before

[fair onyx]

I'm gonna load 2 different models into VRAM on my 3090 to see if its an issue with 1 big file, or what

[idle nexus]

so I flipped the BIOS switch (the one that's like performance or silent) & it seemed to run better lol

make sure system is off tho

[fair onyx]

I seriously am worried it's my 3090

[idle nexus]

heck if you press Win+R then type uh

[fair onyx]

I tried to load, and it blue screened at just 1.9GB VRAM

[idle nexus]

dxdiag

there's a DirectX Diagnostic Tool

doesn't really give you much info ig tho

but it does detect problems apparently

[fair onyx]

where would one find this?

[idle nexus]

just hold windows key & press R

for the little run dialogue thing

[fair onyx]

I wonder... Let me try something else

[fair onyx]

thanks by the way

[idle nexus]

np

I'm learning some cool cmd stuff here too lol

[tranquil pebble]

screenshot capture right before EDF6 crash

[fair onyx]

fun lol

[tranquil pebble]

Those are supposed to be grenades

[tranquil pebble]

the game froze before the crash which I took as an opportunity to grab that screencap

[idle nexus]

apparently nvidia-smi has a bunch of commands to make it log various things https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3751/~/useful-nvidia-smi-queries

[fair onyx]

@idle nexusI just loaded a different model using a different backend, and look...

but it crashes using 3 others

and 2 trainers

let me try llama cpp... Wonder what that will do

I am so confused...

[idle nexus]

damn that uses a heck ton of memory

[fair onyx]

24GB is pretty pitiful for AI TBH

[idle nexus]

I wonder if the workstation driver would be better than gameready lol

[fair onyx]

but its generating images with much more VRAM that what crashed it before

[fair onyx]

Tried that, its actually slower

a lot of the CUDA stuff used for AI relies on acceleration things for games

I am totally over where it was crashing before

but if I try to load an LLM, it dies...

hmmm...

[idle nexus]

how big is an LLM?

[fair onyx]

in this case, 4-32GB

but it almost always crashes on all of them at exactly 8.7GB. Though I did get that one above where it crashed at 1.9GB

[idle nexus]

maybe the 39.9gb total isn't enough

[fair onyx]

oh no, its fine

I've used these models daily for months

it gets to 8.7GB and blue screens

[idle nexus]

ah okay. I thought that might be why so much was being dumped into HDD paging file or something

[fair onyx]

oh, that WAS why

It fills system RAM then VRAM

and it would squeeze my RAM, then my VRAM

[idle nexus]

& since it's so massive it dumped the rest on HDD paging file?

[fair onyx]

yeah. It would push out the other files to a page. Thats why I have 64GB, cause that stops it from happening, but I only have 32 right now

[idle nexus]

maybe disabling that HDD paging means it just doesn't have enough memory

so it freaks out & BSODs?

[fair onyx]

Maybe? It had this issue before tho. Once before

And also, these other models I am loading into VRAM are really no smaller, so I am not sure...

[idle nexus]

heck it's like you need a 500gb NVMe just to be used as a paging file or something lol wow

[fair onyx]

IDk why you think that

this is my mem right now

[idle nexus]

not laughing at your situation just amazed at how intense this all is

makes me feel like I barely do anything intense on my setup

[fair onyx]

Oh yeah, for sure

I have a friend with 4x4090's, 4x P40's, and 2x A100 80G's, and hes still always strapped for VRAM lol. AI stuff is no joke. my 24GB 3090 is chump change

[idle nexus]

wow

[fair onyx]

You look at an open source model like Llama 3.1 405b, which is as good as GPT 4O, and you need 1 TB of VRAM just to load it

Hell, even mistral large needs minimum 2 A100's

LLM's are crazy. Probably the most GPU intense thing you can do on your system (in terms of VRAM. Actually running them is a walk in the park)

[idle nexus]

does like CPU-Z or anything else say there's 32gb for size?

like it's crazy that it would disappear I dunno

I believe it I've just never had it happen like that

[fair onyx]

Yeah, my whole system says only 32GB. I can keep restarting my PC and it will randomly boot with 64, and I can use all 64 no problem too

[idle nexus]

when it loses 32gb, is it one channel is out or like one stick from each channel?

[fair onyx]

I have 2 sticks, and 1 goes offline

[idle nexus]

cuz even with 4 DIMMs it's still just channel A & channel B no?

ohh I thought it was 4 sticks

[fair onyx]

nope, dual 32GB sticks

[idle nexus]

ah okay

[fair onyx]

one disappears, and my RAM speed gets reset down to 4800mhz. No crash or error or anything

[idle nexus]

ig they're in A2/B2 slots?

[fair onyx]

it just happens. And sometimes it unhappens

[fair onyx]

I wanna say yes. I read the manual when I installed it, and it worked fine. Its been over a year since I have seen the RAM itself

I believe its TeamGroup

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BPHSL93T/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

Yeah, thats the RAM

[idle nexus]

sometimes boards revert to JEDEC default when they fail to train but I didn't think they dropped a whole channel

I have some 2x16 & 2x24 of those lol

[fair onyx]

Its been fine RAM. And then one day I had a critical crash. It was scary, and when my PC turned back on, it was only 32GB

and since then, the other 32GB has decided to put the random in random access memory

[idle nexus]

swapping DIMM slots doesn't change the result?

of which one craps out I mean

[fair onyx]

I haven't had the chance yet, cause its a huge ordeal/undertaking. I might try it tomorrow

I will need to fully disassemble my PC, and also get it out of where its installed, unhook everything, deal with both PSU's

[idle nexus]

oh ya I know that headache

[fair onyx]

I need to remove 2 GPU's and my CPU heatsink to get to my RAM, so its no small task

[idle nexus]

well the one where it's unreasonably difficult to get to components lol

damn & I thought the balancing screws on the end of the screwdriver act I have to do to swap NVMes was a pain

[fair onyx]

however, I will say... I see on the amazon page that this DDR5 has lifetime warranty... Hmm

[idle nexus]

ya RMA sucks cuz of downtime but the constant crashing is pretty bad too

[elfin mural]

lifetime can mean a number of undetermined years

but some manufacturers actually honor that

like crucial

[fair onyx]

Yeah, I mean I already have the downtime of half of my RAM. It's not like both sticks are failing

If I could just send one in and then get one later, that's fine. For all I know this issue could potentially be caused because the faulty one is in the slot. Maybe it's trying to address it or something. I have no idea

[idle nexus]

they usually make you send back both

[fair onyx]

But at the same time, this error and the blue screen was also happening when I had all 64 GB

[idle nexus]

I use these cheap ass 32gb DIMMs https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CGWFYBXB/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

but $85 each isn't really that much cheaper

[fair onyx]

That's way slower than the RAM I have, but honestly I haven't been using it with XMP for a while now lol

[fair onyx]

I forgot that DDR5 got inexplicably expensive again

[idle nexus]

lol well I force it to run 6200c28

which sounds great until something gets borked or BIOS update means I gotta redo it & let it run ycruncher tests for hours & hours

[fair onyx]

My 64GB DDR5 6000 mHz CL32 RAM was $130 about 14 months ago

[idle nexus]

damn I wish I'd gotten that lol

[fair onyx]

Yeah honestly, from what I remember, I bought my CPU, motherboard, and RAM all in some weird price dip. It wasn't planned or anything, but it seems like I got everything right when they were all at their lowest cost

[idle nexus]

the only good thing about these for me is it saved me the headache of removing the heatspreaders

I run them watercooled to help me feel like running high voltage thru them isn't so bad

[fair onyx]

The fact that my GPU isn't 100% reliably crashing at the exact same spot every time is giving me some hope, however I still highly highly doubt that whatever problem I'm having is going to be solved without me having to drop considerable amount of money

It continues to be weird that my 3090 is crashing consistently every single time, yet my 3060 TI is not

[idle nexus]

well if you can find a way to be sure it's the RAM, that would be good. Screwed up RAM screws up everything

[fair onyx]

However, at the same time, my 390 usually crashes around 8.7 GB, and my 3060 TI only has 8 GB

[idle nexus]

I doubt it's the CPU but 13th gen Intel crashes usually say "out of video memory"

so much so that nvidia basically announced that people should stop bothering them about that cuz it's their CPU's fault lol

the point being, I wouldn't necessarily blame the 3090 yet at least

[fair onyx]

ok, I loaded a little LLM into my VRAM with a big image gen model, and its fine...

[idle nexus]

I doubt RAM dropping out is the GPU's fault

[fair onyx]

Interesting... The instantaneous moment I tried to load a bigger one, it blue screened

[idle nexus]

I'd be much more suspicious of the motherboard, CPU, or DIMMs before I'd think it's the GPU

[elfin mural]

heck

[idle nexus]

which motherboard is it btw

[elfin mural]

do i wanna try smokeless uamf on my laptop

on one hand i wanna optimize my laptop's cpu

[fair onyx]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BSB6MZ2L/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[elfin mural]

another i don't wanna risk bricking the bios

[fair onyx]

thats my mobo

[idle nexus]

heck I wonder if this smokeless thing would run on my SurfaceBook lol

can it get around all that spectre microcode crap that makes my laptop run like a volcano?

[elfin mural]

it's for amd only

smokeless allows you to fiddle with oc settings and whatever the oem decided to hide

on amd platforms

for intel you might as well use throttlestop

[idle nexus]

which BIOS version are you on??

[fair onyx]

Ok, I just loaded a different model and it OOM'd at 11.7GB

[idle nexus]

it won't work cuz of plundervolt microcode thing. I tried. Many times lol

[elfin mural]

oh yeah..

[idle nexus]

ya it's pretty crappy ngl lol

[elfin mural]

best you can do is tdp i guess

[idle nexus]

ya which borks the 10th gen i7 to even sadder clock speeds

it's Microsoft's fault tho tbh

the thermals on that thing are a heckin joke

[elfin mural]

im very tempted to try smokeless rn

considering it lmao

[idle nexus]

& it's one of those glued together piece of crap laptops that are virtually impossible to disassemble for 99% of the world (myself included)

[fair onyx]

@idle nexus just booted I to BIOS

That's interesting

[idle nexus]

to repaste the CPU, I'd have to remove the screen which is like gauranteed it's gonna crack

[fair onyx]

64GB showing up

[idle nexus]

lol you're on F3 & latest is F10f

i.e., you're 7 BIOS updates behind

[fair onyx]

What the hell? Do they release on every damn month?

[idle nexus]

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/B760-AORUS-ELITE-AX-rev-1x/support#support-dl-bios

7 came out in 2023 so close to every month lol

[fair onyx]

Jeez

My old Asus Mobo got 2 bios updates

In 7 years

[idle nexus]

most recent was like 16 days ago

8/7/2024

[fair onyx]

I would flash it, but I don't have a USB drive that I know of

[idle nexus]

cuz of Intel 13th gen microcode update to stop borking CPUs with crazy voltage

ehh I'd suggest using a USB but

[fair onyx]

This Mobo doesn't have the vastly superior direct bios update. Asus had that one right

[idle nexus]

Gigabyte's software will usually do it in Windows if you're feeling crazy &/or desperate to update lol

[fair onyx]

The thought of doing that on a system that is already chronically blue screening makes me want to gag

I've updated the BIOS on this motherboard before, I know I have a USB flash drive somewhere

The big problem is just that somewhere could be anywhere lol

[idle nexus]

it has Q-flash thing to update BIOS with the system off

[fair onyx]

Yeah, but I need a flash drive for that. That's the problem

Damn it, I have no idea where that damn flash drive is

Oh! I found one!

Let me make sure there's nothing on this

Ok, so bios is 100% reporting 64GB. Let's see if it boots with 64GB

[idle nexus]

does it matter if you jump from F3 straight to F10? I wonder if it's better to do like F3>F5>F7>F9>F10 or something

[fair onyx]

If not, maybe that's a huge windows error

[fair onyx]

Sounds like a pain in my tired ass, but maybe

[cedar compass]

I currently running 64gb at 6400mhz

[fair onyx]

@idle nexusWindows booted with 64GB this time

[idle nexus]

you might just wanna download Gigabyte Control Center & let it tell you what to install

[fair onyx]

I turned XMP back on

[fair onyx]

yeah, fair enough

[idle nexus]

plus it's gonna want to update Intel Management Engine

there's some thing on Intel CPUs called like GNA Accelerator that's for AI iirc

not to mention chipset drivers, various LAN, BT, etc. drivers

[fair onyx]

its so nice to see my HDD at dead 0%, instead of constantly screaming at me all the time lol

[idle nexus]

apparently there's a firmware update for RGB related things

[fair onyx]

Thanks a mill for the help with that

[idle nexus]

no problem. Even if you don't update BIOS, I'd at least download like Intel Driver & Support Assistant & see if it has any driver updates

[idle nexus]

Uninstall it after cuz it's annoying as heck lol

[fair onyx]

not sure if only F9 is for my board, or if it needs to go F3 to F9, then F10

[idle nexus]

or at least remove it from startup programs imo

is that the gigabyte software saying that?

[fair onyx]

yeah

[idle nexus]

my guess is either (1) you need to go F9 before F10 like you said or (2) F10 only matters for 13/14th gen CPUs

12th gen is pretty solid from what I've heard

[fair onyx]

My guess is F10 would be only for 13/14, cause 12th doesn't need to have its balls chopped off to not off itself lol

[idle nexus]

lol ya 12th didn't have that whole dump crazy voltage thing going on in the microcode

[fair onyx]

on the charts I saw (forgot where) Alderlake was even more stable than Ryzen. It was fantastic, especially the 12900k. Thing is built like a tank

[idle nexus]

just be careful. I dunno if Gigabyte does it but MSI tries to sneak Norton installs even with Afterburner now lol