general-chat

[velvet summit]

i was talking about my chonker air cooler

[fervent stump]

Not that

It’s not just the image it says the time covering it 😭

[opaque sedge]

Damn did it use to be deepcool?

Ripcool

[velvet summit]

idk

best air cooler currently technically is probably like the ice giant or whatever it was called

that thermo siphon cooler

[opaque sedge]

Sounds

Technical

(Idk what thermo siphon means)

[fervent stump]

I’m getting the nzxt aio

[velvet summit]

this was the cooler i was referencing

[opaque sedge]

What in the hell

[fervent stump]

?? It’s weird

[velvet summit]

it's pretty much an aio but the fluid gets pumped by thermodynamics

[paper verge]

ever heard of grado, focal, meze, avantone, audeze, etc....?

[velvet summit]

fluid boils from the cpu heat, gets cooled and turned back into liquid

[velvet summit]

idk, are they considered small companies? i guess they dont really compare to like sony though lmao

[paper verge]

yeah thats what im comparing them to

[opaque sedge]

Some engineer took the 4th grade condensation and vaporization lesson too seriously 😭

[velvet summit]

tbf they specialize in hi-fi audio

while sony and other big conglomerates are trying to appeal to more of the mass market

[opaque sedge]

Focal is pretty high end no?

Their cheapest headphone is like 8 hundies I believe

[paper verge]

they are all pretty high end, just not as big as other companies that dominate

[velvet summit]

i mainly use behringer and yamaha for mixers in live audio though, which arent small companies
and use shure and senn for mics

behringer x32 is great for the price

[paper verge]

i've falled into the sennheiser rabbithole

[velvet summit]

lmao

i use the hd6xx for listening to music

[paper verge]

i'd consider jbl a more valuable company compared to them

but damn do they SUCK

[fervent stump]

What’s everything that nzxt makes?

[craggy shoal]

Everything but it's overrated

[paper verge]

nzxt making stuff is actually more like them stealing other stuff with white tax

[fervent stump]

Ik about aio, fans, cases and I was wondering if there was anything else

[velvet summit]

motherboards

[paper verge]

mobos, psu, mics

[fervent stump]

Oh wow I didn’t know that

[opaque sedge]

Rebranded mobos, cable extensions, crap monitors, coolers, cases, fans, rgb hubs, also made closed loop gpu shrouds once i think

[craggy shoal]

Their PSUs aren't that bad. I have a C750 from them running my 6800 XT (basically, if something were to fail, it would've happened already if the PSU wasn't so bad)

[fervent stump]

I’m getting 7 nzxt fans eventually, I will get the the h9 flow and the nzxt aio

[proud jackal]

@fervent stump why did you send me friend request

[opaque sedge]

Not exactly a closed loop shroud but smth that makes the gpu aio cooling capable

[proud jackal]

[fervent stump]

Your nice and just wanted to be friends

[proud jackal]

I am the meanest mod here

[fervent stump]

That’s fine I still like you

[proud jackal]

[devout forum]

Whose mobos do they rebrand?

Are they at least decent (even if horrid price)

[opaque sedge]

Asrock apparently

[fervent stump]

Am I making a good decision

[devout forum]

Hey that should make them not terrible

[devout forum]

I'd rather get something else

They're all very overpriced

[fervent stump]

B-but

They are

Beautiful

[velvet summit]

five hundred cigarettes

[devout forum]

Like they're performance wise
Alright

They're more looks than perf tho

[fervent stump]

And brand

[sweet phoenix]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yDmNnQ/thermalright-tl-c12b-s-v3-x3-6617-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-tl-c12b-s-v3-x3

[opaque sedge]

Idk bout you but would not be paying x670 money for a b650e

[devout forum]

Never stan any brand

NEVER, EVER stan any brand

[fervent stump]

Rn I’m getting the thermalright fans then next nzxt fans

[fervent stump]

Whyyyyy

[opaque sedge]

Johnny silverhand would know

[devout forum]

That's how you get motherboards that desolder your CPU, your address leaked in plain text by GPU RMA and power supplies that can literally burn your house down

[sweet phoenix]

Corporations don't give a flying you know what about their customers or potential customers, especially brands like nzxt lol

[devout forum]

That's why

[fervent stump]

I will favor brands but I’m not dumb that’s the thing

[devout forum]

NZXT literally only cares to take your wallet

[fervent stump]

Yea

[sweet phoenix]

Nzxt has worse products at a higher price than the competition, same with 95% of corsair and asus products atp

[fervent stump]

Will I get made fun of for having a lot of nzxt?

[sweet phoenix]

Brand loyalty is stupid

[sweet phoenix]

Ok.

[fervent stump]

?

I’m asking

[sweet phoenix]

I'm out after that one chief

[fervent stump]

Why I was just asking

[opaque sedge]

People in my high school made fun of kids for not having limited edition jordans lol

Its abt what suits your needs

[fervent stump]

I could settle for something else but I like nzxt

Plus

[misty sparrow]

do you like nzxt because of the clean-looking designs?

because there's others with clean designs too

[fervent stump]

If I get the nzxt aio I want the fans to match the aio

[opaque sedge]

Clean and sleek tbh

Montech makes some really good looking fans

Cases too

[misty sparrow]

i heard lianli makes good stuff too

[fervent stump]

I like the aio, logo, looks and ummm idk

[opaque sedge]

Oh god

Nooooo

Stop it

[misty sparrow]

no?

i heard they did

did i hear wrong or confuse them with someone else

[opaque sedge]

I muted that cursed place

Someone help

[fervent stump]

He’s a lil crazy don’t mind him

[opaque sedge]

Well they do make decent products but not really the equivalent of the price they sell em at

And people are also crazy abt lianli

[velvet summit]

mint

miku

[fervent stump]

Buy me this NOW

[opaque sedge]

Look at this gonk spent 300 on aesthetics but settled for a 7700xt…

[misty sparrow]

alright thats it

https://tenor.com/view/fall-damage-guy-jumping-off-cliff-meme-fall-jump-gif-10998107752099134325

[fervent stump]

That’s not bad

[opaque sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

[fervent stump]

I’m spending like 400 on aesthetics

[velvet summit]

keepinventory true mfs when they get lost while exploring

[opaque sedge]

And getting a cheap ips monitor i assume

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/justice-justice-do-you-have-the-framing-right-arks-earth-arks-earthcom-arks-gif-25891368

dont know what the background is tho nvm

[fervent stump]

SHHHHH

[opaque sedge]

I

Was

Hoping

To be

Wrong

👁️👄👁️

[fervent stump]

Ummmm

Maybe?

What’s a good white psu for about 100 bucks

[opaque sedge]

Depends on wattage

[fervent stump]

I’m spending… $250 on fans…

Nvm 175

[fervent stump]

Like 850

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-hitori-goto-depressed-bocchi-the-rock-gif-27672004

[opaque sedge]

Sigh get a montech king 95 with pre installed fans at that point

[fervent stump]

This is what I have so far
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PC3HXk

[opaque sedge]

160 bucks for that dinky looking case is criminal

[paper verge]

dude i actually think paying an electriction is cheaper than going and buying those stupid fans

lmfao

[paper verge]

dinky looking case?

[opaque sedge]

This one can be had for 170

[fervent stump]

NO

[opaque sedge]

And comes with fabulous fans

[fervent stump]

:(

[opaque sedge]

👁️👄👁️

U do u

[opaque sedge]

Doesn’t even come with rgb fans at that price

[opaque sedge]

Ur saying this does not look good?

[paper verge]

what in the world of

[opaque sedge]

Lol just noticed the sag bracket

[paper verge]

that actually is an aquarium

[opaque sedge]

Well they are called fish tank cases

[paper verge]

im not stupid. but that one is actually an aquarium

wtf is that choice of color

that should be illegal

[opaque sedge]

I mean parts all all white so the person could change it to whatever color

[dusk knot]

Turn that frown upside down..you have OLED now.

[opaque sedge]

Is it possible to get an oled under 400?

Ik its not

[fervent stump]

Ehhh I like nzxt

[dusk knot]

Possibly

Doubt it

No

Not happening

[opaque sedge]

With warranty?! 👁️👄👁️

[sinful blade]

You mean prznt? Or pzzt?

[opaque sedge]

Oh

[opaque sedge]

Dinkyzt

[dusk knot]

Nope

[opaque sedge]

[fervent stump]

It’s so pwetty though

[sinful blade]

It’s so pricey and not worth the pricey though

Nzxt is just not it

At all

[opaque sedge]

Their fish tanks cost 160 bucks and dont even come with full fans or rgb fans

But look at this

[misty sparrow]

I beg to differ

[fervent stump]

ITS SO EXPENSIVE HELP

[sinful blade]

What a load of

[opaque sedge]

Can be had for 170

[sinful blade]

Bid

[fervent stump]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4Tdx7R

[opaque sedge]

Comes with all the fans u need

[dusk knot]

That's not a gaming monitor

But ig you're right

[sinful blade]

Not it chief

[misty sparrow]

man said "is it possible to get an OLED for under $400"

i technically answered the question

[opaque sedge]

That’s a tv i wants a high refresh rate oled 27 inch 1440p

[fervent stump]

WAAAAAA

WHY

[dusk knot]

I knew what area he was talking about. Wasn't thinking about TVs

[misty sparrow]

yeah i know lol

im just saying i technically answered it correct

[fervent stump]

Hey did I cook?

[dusk knot]

Yes you did

[misty sparrow]

emote didn't work for you too?

[dusk knot]

Damnit.... someone buy nitro. I'm broke

[fervent stump]

For you?

[misty sparrow]

i don't get why some of the non-animated emojis are locked here

doesnt nitro only lock animated stuff

[dusk knot]

We need a nitro booster

[sinful blade]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/skkjmD

Fixed your list

[fervent stump]

I will one day

[sinful blade]

[dusk knot]

Doesn't have to be me. Ok

[misty sparrow]

oh we're out of slots? oof

server isnt boosted to level 3

[fervent stump]

This is my new acc and I don’t have nitro sadly so I can’t use all my e girl emojis

[sinful blade]

No nitro > nitro

[opaque sedge]

Beautiful

[sinful blade]

All your emotes can be gifs

[fervent stump]

I NEED AIO SCREEN

[sinful blade]

You do not

Get an lcd screen in there

[fervent stump]

:(

[sinful blade]

It’ll plug into your mobo and you can put custom stuff in it

Rather than your AIO

[fervent stump]

But it won’t be as nice

[opaque sedge]

Kind of snitching here but also hasn’t budgeted for a good monitor and wants to get a cheap ips

While

[sinful blade]

It’ll be much better for you

[opaque sedge]

Spending

400

For aesthetics

[fervent stump]

Trust I’m cooking

[sinful blade]

A cheap ips won’t help you actually utilize a 4090

[fervent stump]

4080s

Strix

[opaque sedge]

Same story the 4080s is a powerhouse

[sinful blade]

https://youtu.be/7bXcojLipME?feature=shared

[fervent stump]

I’m cooking trust

[fervent stump]

You don’t understand

Aio screen

Best thing ever

[opaque sedge]

Well

We all have our wants ig

U guys ever been hungry but not wanting to eat anything at the same time?

[fervent stump]

All day today

[fervent stump]

It’s a need

[opaque sedge]

💀

[opaque sedge]

It feels

So conflicting

I can’t wrap my head around what i’m feeling rn

[fervent stump]

I’m forcing myself to eat a sandwich

[velvet summit]

you know what you're lacking?
something so spicy that tears comes out your eyes

[opaque sedge]

👁️👄👁️

[fervent stump]

SEE ITS THE BEST

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-aware-twitch-forsen-emote-gif-25354609

[velvet summit]

weird ass dog right there

[fervent stump]

Could someone please check #building-and-recc-chat message

[velvet summit]

no

[fervent stump]

Waaaaaa ok

[opaque sedge]

Thats a dawg

You get me

[paper verge]

bro called a monkey a dog 💀

[young matrix]

Yeah cooking your parts

Dawg if ur not gonna listen to any of the feedback here then stop talking

Dont ask for advice if ur not gonna take it

[paper verge]

yeah they've been asking for advice for 3 whole days here, and looking at their build and the one from two days ago theres only stupid build decision that im sure no one here recommended blud even asked felix and straight up didn't change anything

[young matrix]

💀

[misty sparrow]

yeah i remember doing an NZXT joke yesterday

sounds about right

[fervent stump]

I’m not only asking for parts also cables and stuff for fans to be able to connected them and trying to learn how to actually build a computer

[fervent stump]

I can talk and do whatever I would like 👍

If you have a problem with it then stay quiet

[misty sparrow]

and we've been telling you that brand loyalty isn't really a good choice yet you keep ignoring our advice

$200 on just fans isn't a good look

[paper verge]

dude i called you out once for this, your just waisting other peoples time with your builds. like nobody here wants to see your builds, you put them for people to give advice, yet i've made you 2 builds, and several other guys have also given you builds, yet you decide to change nothing

[young matrix]

Yeah id prefer you not waste everyones time

[fervent stump]

They wanted to talk to me I have been helped a lot more then you think with other stuff then parts

[paper verge]

yo stop tryna argue, just take the advice and come back when you have the money and ask for a build, take peoples advice and get the pc

[young matrix]

Theres this neat little thing called a youtube tutorial, if not then theres the instruction manual

[paper verge]

no reason for you to take this argument any further

[fervent stump]

Well YouTube can’t help with everything

[sweet phoenix]

No reason for any of yall to still be talking

Gah damn what a pointless argument

[fervent stump]

They are coming at me for no reason

[sweet phoenix]

Block button exists for a reason

[fervent stump]

Ikr

[paper verge]

no reason is wild

[sweet phoenix]

I'm talking to you too.

[young matrix]

Yeah cuz you dont listen despite asking for help

[sweet phoenix]

All three of you are having the most pointless argument ever

[fervent stump]

Half the stuff I have is from recommendations you don’t know what your on about

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/palomitas-eating-popcorn-popcorn-eat-chill-gif-17592961

[young matrix]

"guys help me"
(Gives help)
"No im not gonna listen"
"guys help me"

[sweet phoenix]

Infinity

[young matrix]

Thats cool

[sweet phoenix]

My guy

You're mad at her wasting people's time yet you continue to waste yours

[young matrix]

Thats true

[fervent stump]

Yea stop talking to me

[sweet phoenix]

Danielle

Jesus christ

[young matrix]

Stop talking here

[sweet phoenix]

Are all of you 12

[fervent stump]

Nope I can talk here

[sweet phoenix]

"He started it" "no he's annoying" yall just don't get along it isn't that deep, just leave eachother alone

[young matrix]

Cool then stop asking for help youre not gonna take

[paper verge]

its not getting along, its waisting peoples time

[sweet phoenix]

Aight @elfin mural I'm done with this

I tried

[fervent stump]

Quit getting involved you have nothing to do with my computer and what I want to buy for it. If people really considered it wasting their time so much they wouldn’t be helping me and explaining things then

[elfin mural]

Calm down y'all

[paper verge]

ok lets all benefit from this convo
me and infinity should stop arguing w this guy
that other guy should stop asking for advice
not sure what bacca is doing

[opaque sedge]

Guys was cleaning under my bed and look at what i just found

[paper verge]

sounds good?

[young matrix]

👍

[rancid juniper]

dang whats goin on over here?

[elfin mural]

I'll have to time out two sides of the argument if this continues, so please change the topic

[rancid juniper]

😂

[opaque sedge]

Idk i’m scared to scroll up

[rancid juniper]

a little peak wont hurt

[opaque sedge]

Just wanted to share my stupid spinning top 😭

[fervent stump]

Don’t know he just got mad since I ask people for help

[misty sparrow]

A small dose of what you would get if you used a Twitter account for more than one hour

[paper verge]

wow a plug conveniently placed there

[rancid juniper]

R
E
A
L

[opaque sedge]

👁️👄👁️

[rancid juniper]

in other news: https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-reportedly-preparing-navi-33-based-radeon-rx-7400-and-rx-7300-graphics-card#disqus_thread

[opaque sedge]

No ducking way

Are they crazy

[rancid juniper]

yea they doin it again

[opaque sedge]

Didn’t they see how the 3050 did

[rancid juniper]

crippled ah cards

LMFAO

[opaque sedge]

👁️👄👁️

There is no learning from other’s mistakes with these corpos 😭

[young matrix]

Isnt navi 33 old

[rancid juniper]

dont think so???

[elfin mural]

It's rdna 3

[paper verge]

i thought navi 3x died

[rancid juniper]

wheres RX 7500 tho?

[opaque sedge]

Playing cyberpunk rn downing enemies stealthily while listening to ponpon on the radio

[young matrix]

I thought navi was the architecture

[elfin mural]

New die

[rancid juniper]

and the RX 7400 using 150w is wild ngl

[elfin mural]

Navi is RDNA

The numbers are generation and segment

[opaque sedge]

This was wild enough

[misty sparrow]

these cards legit skipped leg day

[fervent stump]

Could you please check dms for a second?

[opaque sedge]

Apparently i added 30 bucks to the power bill since last month 💀

[young matrix]

Lmao wtf

[rancid juniper]

🤢

[elfin mural]

I just did, and I suggest you to not escalate it

[fervent stump]

I’m not I was just telling you something

[elfin mural]

Yeah I get it

[paper verge]

do you live in the middle of some stranded island?

[rancid juniper]

...

[opaque sedge]

No worse

Hcol

With lcol money

[rancid juniper]

bro is pushing 300w+ for a 5 fps increase

💀

[opaque sedge]

I should have gotten a gre or a 4070s now that i think abt it 💀

Might get kicked out by my parents now

[rancid juniper]

"you and your dang computer"
-parents probably

[young matrix]

Sounds like my dad

[opaque sedge]

Hah they would sell it while having me tied up to just be petty

[young matrix]

To my brother

[paper verge]

bro i had a friend that used to mine crypto with solar panels so his parents wouldn't give him the electricity bill 💀

bro was down bad

[rancid juniper]

lol

[rancid juniper]

crazy work

[young matrix]

My brother afks roblox overnight

[paper verge]

bros on that 1000 hour streak

[young matrix]

Yrah

Yeah

Its those roblox anime games too

[paper verge]

i used to know a roblox anime game dev once

he made 30k a month

[elfin mural]

yep

it's good money to make anime games on roblox

[young matrix]

Holy

[sinful blade]

How does one do such a thing

And how quickly can I learn

[elfin mural]

learn lua

[young matrix]

Roblox takes a massive cut from earnings tho

[elfin mural]

especially roblox lua

[sinful blade]

Coding
Frick

[young matrix]

Like 90% cut

[paper verge]

ive seen his code, looks like a 15 hour youtube course

[elfin mural]

nah, it's 70%

[young matrix]

Lua sucks cheeks

[elfin mural]

but it's still a mess

[young matrix]

Source: gmod

[elfin mural]

ik, but roblox uses lua anyway

that's why it runs like crap

[paper verge]

yeah the only reason its alive is bc of roblox and arch guys thinking windows managers are cool

[misty sparrow]

All you have to do to make money on roblox is make another anime fighting game

easy profit

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/F3UY9-k81wY?si=On3EPo6JBjWToQj2

says the person who always drops gpus n such

[misty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/linus-linus-drop-linustechtips-linusdroptips-drop-gif-24524203

[young matrix]

Real

[fervent stump]

My friend and I were going to but he gave up

[elfin mural]

i know a dude who makes car/rp game

he makes just enough to live off it ok

[paper verge]

feel bad for sim game devs

[misty sparrow]

there's so many sim games out there, it's hard to make a dent

unless you make some gacha game that appeals to kids and has addicting gameplay to them

[misty sparrow]

also didn't you suggest the G305 to me a few days ago lol

it looks really, really good on the sites n stuff

[young matrix]

Yeah, theres some other stuff id suggest over it but g305 has the best availability

darmoshark m3 (on aliexpress or amazon), keychron, zowie, mchose g3

[young matrix]

Most people consider it the holy grail of budget mice cuz its also dirt easy to mod

[unreal trail]

https://tenor.com/view/lost-ark-gif-26462158

[misty sparrow]

a functioning (and light) mouse is most important to me

this basilisk x hyperspeed i have is great, only problem is the RMB has this funny double-click issue. guess that's razer for ya

[young matrix]

Darmoshark m3 or mchose g3 would be my picks

G305 can be good if ur willing to do some mods

I can help you out with modding

[misty sparrow]

what kind of mods are available to a G305

buttons? lighter build? stuff that makes it have better performance?

[young matrix]

Almost everything

Change AA to AAA or a rechargable

Usb c mod

Change out all the switches in it

Change the shell of it to a custom one or one thats exact to another mouse

Change rotary encoder

Those are the common ones i know

[proud jackal]

[young matrix]

Like the most common one people do is shell swap to a g pro/g pro superlight

[proud jackal]

I wanna go home and sleep

[young matrix]

Isnt it like 11am in cali

[misty sparrow]

should be 10:45

[young matrix]

Close enough

But mchose g3 has most of those stock besides the shell swap and button swap

Like it comes with usb c and rechargable battery and is already really light

[proud jackal]

My monitor has a firmware update apparently

[misty sparrow]

wow all of that and only for $28?

$28 USD

good lord

[fervent stump]

You guys think the next and cpus will be better at gaming then the 7800x3d?

[devout forum]

They're likely going go be about the same for the 9700X

But at vastly higher power draw

You'd not go wrong with the 7800X3D
Or you can wait for the 9800X3D if you want to

[fervent stump]

Did they say when they may come out?

[devout forum]

Nothing specific

But if you're willing to wait like 2 weeks

[fervent stump]

Oh

[devout forum]

9000 series launches

[fervent stump]

It’s in about 2 weeks?

[devout forum]

And ALLEGEDLY the 9700X will be slightly faster in games than the 7800X3D

You can see what the new CPUs offer before you build

[fervent stump]

Yea I think I will

[devout forum]

(If you're dead set on a 360 AIO, I'd honestly more recommend the 9700X anyway)

[paper verge]

damn thats hella cool

[devout forum]

360 AIO on an 88 watts power draw chip is frankly ridiculous

[fervent stump]

Yea since it’s hotter right?

[devout forum]

It'd at least be less ridiculous

Still overkill, but kinda understandable

Ryzen 7000 don't need that beefy cooling (on average)

[fervent stump]

Yea makes sense I didn’t know that they may launch in about 2 weeks

[devout forum]

They were already supposed to launch

But AMD "found some inconsistencies"

(They misprinted the heat spreader of some processors, creating the Ryzen 9 9700X)

[fervent stump]

Oh where do I hear about this stuff

[devout forum]

Now it is possible there were some genuine issues to iron out, but we might never really know

[paper verge]

on average? there is a reason why amd gives you stock coolers with 7950x

[fervent stump]

Yea maybe

[devout forum]

You CAN run a 7950X on a stock cooler tbf

It's definitely not going to be the sort of performance you paid 7950X money

But it wouldn't self-immolate or anything

[paper verge]

if you couldn't amd wouldn't give it

[devout forum]

You can temporarily run it like that until a better cooler arrives at the very least

[paper verge]

pbt uc is actually pretty decent

i won the lottery so -30pbt on all cores and stress tested it, droped like 7C~

[unreal trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787990833315315712/1270403609007226952/FB_IMG_1722955584146.jpg?ex=66b3930f&is=66b2418f&hm=272f20a32fdcb07a23cd7617242acf6c811701f311ab6fb72e652250592cf5f0&

[elfin mural]

You can with CO negative offset

It legit cuts temps for the same clocks

Tho ambient will change things drastically if you're in hotter climate

[devout forum]

I mean if it's temporary you can literally run it at any curve

It's honestly super nice that it won't set itself on fire

[elfin mural]

im thinking of fiddling with ppt and co negative on my laptop

because i want efficiency

[young matrix]

Ye

[lone mango]

Yeah my 5600 went from 50 something to mid 30s full load

[ripe leaf]

Is there a place where I can ask if a certain pc is worth for it's price?

[lone mango]

Here is chill

[young matrix]

Here or #building-and-recc-chat

[ripe leaf]

https://www.newegg.com/p/83-360-525?Item=83-360-525&cm_sp=product-_-from-price-options

[misty sparrow]

There is one thing I'm confused about though

there's six different models, so what's the difference?

[sweet phoenix]

That's a decent deal, but I'm gonna check if I can find something better

[elfin mural]

decent deal

[young matrix]

There's a comparison chart if you scroll down

[sweet phoenix]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/155913186649?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[misty sparrow]

oh, it's at the VERY bottom

no wonder i didn't see it, it's very far down

[sweet phoenix]

That's great value, would want to upgrade ram and storage

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PMTzt7

So $920+$152 for 13700f 32gb 1.5tb ssd and 4070

[elfin mural]

i see some dust on my laptop's vents

not bad for a one year old laptop ig

[sweet phoenix]

Oh here grab this one instead, more storage
https://www.ebay.com/itm/155985526773?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=92chrSivS8C&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

[elfin mural]

i hate lenovo for the lack of xmp tho

but other than that, standard case and atx parts

[dusk knot]

Mmm

[ripe leaf]

Thank you. I am willing to spend money on a prebuild (dont have experience building a PC nor do I want to and I understand that this is the more expensive route) but I dont need anything high end

just something that can run my games smoothly mainly Elden Ring

[sweet phoenix]

That build above would do that and then some

Do you need a monitor too?

[sweet phoenix]

I thought their newer builds had it?

[elfin mural]

not sure

[sweet phoenix]

I believe they use fully non proprietary parts in these newer builds

So mobo should have xmp

[ripe leaf]

I have a monitor that I use with my laptop but Im unsure if I need something else to complement what Im about to get

Dont need anything too crazy just a screen to show my games

[sweet phoenix]

Do yk the model or specs?

I would recommend at least a halfway decent monitor for a great gaming pc like this

You could also do cheaper btw
https://www.ebay.com/itm/155782964814

Oh and there's an extra 8% off on some of these builds too

So that would be just shy of $600 before tax ^

[ripe leaf]

https://www.amazon.com/KC242Y-Hbi-Zero-Frame-FreeSync-Technology/dp/B0BS9T3FNB?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&th=1 think it was this one

[sweet phoenix]

I would certainly upgrade if it were my pc/monitor

[sweet phoenix]

Even if it meant going with this cheaper build

The cheaper one is better value anyways lol, and you get on am5 which will allow you to upgrade the cpu without swapping motherboards

This is a great monitor on sale rn, however it is $230
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k8GnTW/gigabyte-m27q-270-2560x1440-170-hz-monitor-m27q

This is a mediocre panel, but still a big step up from the current one, $150
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/q4xxFT/samsung-odyssey-g55c-320-2560-x-1440-165-hz-curved-monitor-ls32cg552enxza

And $100
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3fzXsY/msi-g244pf-e2-238-1920-x-1080-180-hz-monitor-g244pf-e2

[ripe leaf]

ye I'm just trying to assess what is good setup for my price I would Ideally like to keep everything under 1.1k while getting the most out of my build

tysm for these suggestions PC jargon hasn't been my thing and neither is assessing things for price

[rancid juniper]

Compooper setup

[fervent stump]

The 5090 comes out then the 5080 right? Like best to worst?

[sweet phoenix]

Np, if you've any questions feel free to ask

Oh I have one other monitor option

If you play games where you prefer image quality over frame rate, and you don't really play first person shooters much
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D4P8XBD3

[ripe leaf]

I prefer smoothness over quality so I'd have to pass, thank you though I really appreciate this

[gray kelp]

I need to format my flash usb to FAT32 but its 64gb :/. Any 3rd party software yall could recommend? I found some online but the websites were on the shadier side

[elfin mural]

just format it to fat32 and use it like that

then reformat it later

[gray kelp]

I dont have that option when i click format 😦

[elfin mural]

unless you really need the full capacity

then you wanna use rufus

[gray kelp]

thanks!

[rough zinc]

Unless they changed since 2020, they don’t have XMP. You are correct about fully non proprietary parts tho

Loved my dad’s legion 7i

Even supported a top mount 360rad even tho it didn’t advertise support

[sweet phoenix]

That's sad

Google says some do some don't, I don't feel like finding out the difference at the moment though

[rough zinc]

Maybe the newest ones do, can’t find too much info about it

[proud jackal]

Buy the PG32UCDP

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/jx2dDV2eWBM?si=TXCE13XY495EGTn5

[lone mango]

US needs to man up and split these corpos

[fervent stump]

I was told that 2 is better?

[lone mango]

its not happening

ever

[lone mango]

Better in the sense that you save money and get identical perf

And I guess if you have a ryzen 9 x3d it is actually better

[sweet phoenix]

2 is better.

4 sticks, especially on ddr5, is very hard to run

[lone mango]

Yeah

[sweet phoenix]

And you would likely have to run it at a lower speed

[fervent stump]

You can’t have it at its max speed?

[sweet phoenix]

There isn't really a "max speed"

[fervent stump]

Oh

[lone mango]

I don't know too much but it depends on the advertised speeds. If you have like 6400 and you get 4 sticks you might have to drop it

Idk i dont have ddr5

But something like that

[fervent stump]

Why do you have to though what happens if you don’t?

[lone mango]

Especially for r9 x3d cpus

[lone mango]

I think it will retrain memory or just not run

Something like that

[fervent stump]

Alright makes sense

[sweet phoenix]

It doesnt work

[fervent stump]

I get it but that’s kinda dumb tho

[elfin mural]

Ram isn't simple

But if you stick to a known safe but fast speed

Then it becomes simple

[rough zinc]

^

Ram is as simple or difficult as you make it

[ancient swift]

Minnesota State fair food is on another level.

Don't click that if you're not from the Midwest. You won't get it

[worthy meteor]

just gotta deep fry everything

ice cream? deep fry it

[ancient swift]

And put ranch on everything

This is both at the same time.

Midwestern²

[worthy meteor]

of course, if you can't have fried buffalo wings with ranch, just have fried ranch with hot sauce

[proud jackal]

Deep fried ice cream is pretty good

[rough zinc]

I’d be so down to try it if it wasn’t cream cheese

[ancient swift]

They're deep frying a piiieeee

I'm allergic to bananas but I wanna try this.

[ancient swift]

Cream cheese is very good at catching other flavors. Can be sweet or savory afterwards. It's kinda interesting.

[velvet summit]

WHO thought of this

[fervent stump]

Overclocked monitor??

[rancid juniper]

freaking disgusting

[proud jackal]

I like cream cheese in my sushi roll

[unreal trail]

I just released 5 GB of RAM by closing Discord

[sinful blade]

Hot

[craggy shoal]

I love America

[rough zinc]

Idk I never really enjoyed it in anything so far

[rough zinc]

Meant to reply to this lol

[fervent stump]

Honey taste soooo good

[velvet summit]

maple syrup better

[fervent stump]

Yea it’s not bad

[fervent stump]

Since amd is better then intel for gaming would that also transfer to vr too since thats also gaming?

[sweet phoenix]

Depends on the game

[fervent stump]

Hmmm ok

[honest shell]

so im looking for a cellphone antenna to boost reception in storms and such...

any tips?

[wary fjord]

aint signal booster illegal..

there some device that can do it but it makes everyone arround u have issue with their connection

[velvet summit]

They won't work

[honest shell]

dont they have them for cars?

[velvet summit]

That's because those replace the existing antenna

There's not really any way to attach an antenna to a cell phone if it doesn't have an external one already

[honest shell]

usb c?

and it doesn't have to be attached to the phone exactly

this would be for my house

[wary fjord]

like this setup?

looks bulky xD

also its illegal for some state

[velvet summit]

Yeah my gf has that setup due to a bad cellular connection to the house

But this requires an active repeater

Not just a random antenna

[honest shell]

yah maybe

the goal is to make my phones hotspot more reliable when power goes out during a storm

[wary fjord]

thats gonna cost u alot tho

[honest shell]

it had bars but the hotspot was realy spotty

[velvet summit]

Yeah this will cost like $500 maybe

[honest shell]

oof

[velvet summit]

Also only works on specific carriers so you have to buy one specific to your carrier

[honest shell]

i think if my phone just had a bit bigger oif a antena it would have been fine

[wary fjord]

can u just call over a wifi

xD

[honest shell]

the power went out

[wary fjord]

i dont use cellphone anymore as its intended use

just internet and videocall and games

[velvet summit]

Buy a power station to plug your router/modem into

[wary fjord]

ow i have idea

walki talkie

can do country to country

wait those are illegal too buying those unlocked version sad

[dusk knot]

Very neat

[honest shell]

i have one the line fell

[wary fjord]

i mean maybe if its insde your country thats fine to have

[velvet summit]

Not really illegal to possess, just illegal to use without a licence

[velvet summit]

Damn

Kinda rare

[wary fjord]

maybe your home structure has so many walls

xD

[honest shell]

its fine now and is what im using till power goes on again

[wary fjord]

is the signal still low if u outside

or just inside

[honest shell]

but it would have been nice to have the hour it was all spotty

[velvet summit]

How important is the network connection though

[wary fjord]

are u living outside the city like nowhere?

[velvet summit]

Can you live without it for a while

[honest shell]

in the city

[honest shell]

no XD

[velvet summit]

Oh

[wary fjord]

u in the city like fully develop one?

[honest shell]

i need my yt cat videos

[wary fjord]

odd u have low signal if u in the city

[velvet summit]

☠️

[wary fjord]

maybe u need to change sim provider?

[honest shell]

yah my phones just doesn't have a dedicated antena so the storm was enough to make reception all spotty

[wary fjord]

ow storm

make sense

[honest shell]

and if im going to have a power bank it makes sense to also have a better antena for phone hotspot

atleast to me

[wary fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/itch-crackhead-drugs-drugaddict-addict-gif-11128316954240258813

haha

[velvet summit]

You could try something like https://www.amazon.ca/QX210-NW2-Industrial-Cellular-Wireless-Automation/dp/B0B5ML48VP

Put your sim in it then get the hotspot from that

[honest shell]

i should have gotten a difrent phone XD

[wary fjord]

yeah do that

sometimes its device fault

[velvet summit]

Ehh, most phones aren't designed for this use case

[honest shell]

literaly the same brand and price XD

pain

[wary fjord]

why you need that

[honest shell]

the antena

i was getting bars it was just spotty

[velvet summit]

Is the antenna used for cellular though

[wary fjord]

ow thats your phone?

[honest shell]

that dedicated antena likely would have been enough

[wary fjord]

deym 600 bucks

and no signal

[honest shell]

nah i got a difrent one

same brand but not with the antena

[wary fjord]

signal booster built in on phone probbaly gonna drain your battery

because it has to be active

[honest shell]

would be fine

[wary fjord]

that phone is like something u bring on a rough situation

[honest shell]

the reason im annoyed is i had this

[wary fjord]

whats that a mini pc

a ups?

[honest shell]

but my pc was basically a brick since i couldn't get my hotspot working enough for it to connect

[honest shell]

ups and battery bank

[wary fjord]

are u living ina doomsday bunker

xD

thats op ups

[honest shell]

i have a 3d printer

also its for the fridge or heaters if the outage lasted that long

since we dont have gass

[velvet summit]

Would be cheaper to have a gas generator

[honest shell]

cant

apartment with no yard

[velvet summit]

Unfortunate

[honest shell]

yah

[wary fjord]

landlord wont be happy if he or she smell the gas

hahaha

[velvet summit]

Also yeah it's probably the concrete of the apartment causing your bad signal

Benefit of the American cardboard houses is that it's fairly permeable to RF, compared to concrete

One ap can do a whole single family home quite often

[honest shell]

i had my phone in the window

[velvet summit]

While in concrete homes, the same size home would require multiple for a good signal (more than -60dbm)

[honest shell]

and cabled to my pc

[velvet summit]

Cellular tower could have been like on the opposite side of the apartment

[ancient swift]

Midwesterners

[wary fjord]

even if u get a signal booster is the owner of the apartment ok with u installing that?

u have to drill or something

it has to be place outside

[honest shell]

nah it was the right side

[velvet summit]

Oh well
Heavy rain?

[wary fjord]

ew

[honest shell]

yes

[velvet summit]

Ah

Yeah that is likely the cause as well then

[wary fjord]

that is so concentrated

[honest shell]

thats why im thinking just a bigger antena would have helped

[velvet summit]

Water absorbs a fair bit of RF as well

[honest shell]

yah

[velvet summit]

How many dBm you get on an average day

[wary fjord]

i bought a booster on my Huawei B525 65-A Black Mamba

its the best decision i ever made

from 40mbps to 510mbps xD

back when i dont have fibr yet

it has tower id locking feature.. so it wont switch.. i can now reach those special tower with booster

[honest shell]

what one?

[lone mango]

[pseudo raven]

what that

[fervent stump]

I’m watching YouTube about someone building a 4080s build and he said that the 7900xtx is better for vr since it has more vram is that true?

[storm narwhal]

Its better because its just better at raw raster

And dlss/fsr isn't available for VR last I remember

So not necessarily

[velvet summit]

except drivers on nvidia for vr specifically tend to be more stable; amd i swear breaks vr performance every other driver version

[fervent stump]

I got the oculus quest 2 if that changes anything

[velvet summit]

it doesnt

but meta also doesnt officially support 7000 series yet for whatever reason

[tranquil pebble]

lol, lmao even

[fervent stump]

Intel?

[velvet summit]

what

intel doesnt have anything that is "7000 series"

or at least nothing modern

i dont remember if there was any 7000 series stuff back in the day

[storm narwhal]

Huh

[unreal trail]

[fervent stump]

Woops I mean is intel better for vr?

[velvet summit]

intel gpus? not at all
intel cpus? they're fine

the current best vr cpus afaik are the 7800x3d and 7900x3d

[fervent stump]

Alrighty thx I’m trying to have my cpu and gpu be best for everything I’m doing

[opaque sedge]

Guys

[random osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-cyberpunk-anime-david-cyberpunk-edgerunners-tears-gif-26728517

[rancid juniper]

https://youtu.be/c-QfqsPRyjg?si=sjahHQI-YeCq2oPF

[storm narwhal]

Cracked

[fervent stump]

Guys this is my friends set up how would you guys rate it?
7950x
4090
64gb

[storm narwhal]

Eh

I dunno lol something feels off

But I can't put my finger on what it is

[fervent stump]

What do you think it is?

[storm narwhal]

Not sure yet lol

[velvet summit]

the glass is dirty

also the rear exhaust is an non-rgb fan while everything else is

also bottom intake on a carpeted floor

[storm narwhal]

Thank you

Yeah that's a big portion I think

[tranquil pebble]

once again Radeon wins for $/perf ratio

[velvet summit]

and they left the warning sticker about handling the glass with care on

lmao

[storm narwhal]

Peel that sticker ooofff

[rancid juniper]

the radeon way

[storm narwhal]

Glass is glass and glass breaks

Literally everyone intuitively knows this

[velvet summit]

no way

[tranquil pebble]

first ATI card I ever used was pre-Radeon lol

[velvet summit]

[tranquil pebble]

Rage 128 specifically

I still have it too

[wary fjord]

9/10 incomplete halo ring the back fan is not glowing.

[storm narwhal]

Coulda at least propped the case off the carpet with something like

[wary fjord]

x1650 ati pro gang

[storm narwhal]

Its a vacuum sucking up all the dirt lol

[fervent stump]

He has it off

[storm narwhal]

wHY

That's actually wack lmaoo

You got all this rgb fans but you just turn one off like

[velvet summit]

off? that's a non-rgb fan if i've ever seen one

[storm narwhal]

??

[velvet summit]

it looks like the kinda fan strapped on a stock cooler from dell

[fervent stump]

Maybe

[velvet summit]

the more i look at the glass the more dirty it seems

couldnt even clean the glass before taking a photo smh

[fervent stump]

It was rushed

Ima make him put it on his desk

[velvet summit]

also if you're making an aesthetic build with rgb, the least you could do is keep it clean and put it on a desk instead of putting it on a carpeted floor 😭

especially with bottom intake

[fervent stump]

Trust ik ima be cleaning it daily

[storm narwhal]

Definitely looks like it came with the case

[tranquil pebble]

imagine filling a case with 16k RPM server fans

[velvet summit]

does nzxt even come with non-rgb fans?

[storm narwhal]

I'd assume so

[velvet summit]

also this glass is absolutely nasty

[storm narwhal]

But then again, last I even looked at em was the h510

[velvet summit]

they wiped it with what i could only assume to be old dish cloths because there are SO MANY STREAKS

waddahail

[storm narwhal]

Literally water with a normal microfiber cloth woulda been fine kekw

[fervent stump]

It did

[storm narwhal]

Actually terrible kekw

[velvet summit]

i dont even want to imagine what made the glass so dirty

[fervent stump]

That looks cool but it’s dirty

[fervent stump]

Dw my friend isn’t crazy he just doesn’t clean it

I forgot I can play Xbox on vr :o

Crap all the games are bad nvm

[velvet summit]

no, he very clearly tried to clean it
and left a bunch of streak marks afterwards

[fervent stump]

Oh

[velvet summit]

and then there's also more drips of whatever that is on the glass

on both the front and side glass

[fervent stump]

Oh yea-

[fervent stump]

not sure what that is

[unreal trail]

why doesnt any scrimblo games come to PC

[storm narwhal]

Bro needs windex to clean that glass lmao

[velvet summit]

"why do men die so fast"
men: https://youtube.com/shorts/ZBCfA1O6og0?si=vcV9NBb6q3pZNASI

[fervent stump]

I'm having this conversation on VR.

[velvet summit]

i need to figure out where the hell to put my printer
there is no room

every convenient place to place a printer already has a printer placed there

there's not really anywhere else to put this printer because then it would obstruct something else

and it cant be used wirelessly (at least not currently) so i also need it near enough to my pc

i'll have to either set up another print server or buy some old discontinued add on card to add a print server to this printer

[last mango]

Fan looks its smaller than rgb fans

but could be just me its the angle

[velvet summit]

the pains of old printers

[last mango]

i have a crappy $40 Walmart shelf that wobbles

placed my EPSON ecotank on it

[velvet summit]

the problem is, i dont even have a shelf anymore to put a printer on

[last mango]

nail your printer to the wall

[velvet summit]

first convenient spot, on a file cabinet, has a hp laserjet on it
2nd convenient spot, a tower speaker, has another hp laser jet on it

[last mango]

tf

[velvet summit]

3rd convenient spot, an industrial serger machine, has a... hp laserjet on it

i just realized it's all hp laserjets

and my final printer, an epson impact printer, has nowhere to go

well, the difference between the hp laserjets is that they're from different years

2 of them are colour, one from 2012, one from 2014 prob?

and then one is monochrome from probably like 2006

and my epson is probably 2008

[last mango]

one question

why you got a shelf city of printers 😂

[velvet summit]

most of them we got for free LMFAO

the printer on the file cabinet we bought in 2012

the epson i bought because i wanted a dot matrix
the other 2 was given to us for free

technically there's one other printer which is like some brother laserjet (also free) but that's not in this room

[tranquil pebble]

printer collection moment

[velvet summit]

in fairness, the 2012 printer is kinda dying

but we have a fair amount of toner cartridges to go through for it

so that remains

the 2014 has the nicest prints, but we dont have any more cartridges for it

it's the... 3rd most recent printer we have

oh yeah we also have an old injet in the basement which isnt being used

it was monochrome as well so it's pretty much ewaste due to cost per print

and doesnt have the benefit of colour

[tranquil pebble]

most printers become ewaste fairly quickly tbh

[velvet summit]

true

[tranquil pebble]

I have even heard of people buying a new printer every time they run out of ink

[velvet summit]

it probably helps that all the printers i have are more of the small office/home office variety

[velvet summit]

with the cost of ink, that's fair LMFAO

in fact, it's great because you can scam the printer companies

since they all make a loss on printer sales

well, except for like, ecotanks

[unreal trail]

[velvet summit]

also this is one of the main reasons why i got the impact printer; the ink ribbons last for about as long as laserjet toner cartridges

and costs like a dime

only downsides are really just slow prints and slightly lower print quality

[sinful blade]

Laser printers >

[velvet summit]

your laser printers cant make banners though

well

ok it can

but in a less cool way

[fervent stump]

ummm what is this

In pc part picker can I put rgb hubs and stuff?

[last mango]

That's where you plug in your water connection from faucet

[tranquil pebble]

looks like a network card

[last mango]

💀

Was kidding

yeah by the looks

RJ45 jack port

[tranquil pebble]

probably your everyday 1G NIC

[last mango]

I wish i can have my nice usb c/A port in my pc

but my goddamn 79xt is so chonk

that it swallows up 2nd PCIe slot

[tranquil pebble]

video cards are getting a bit too big IMO

[fervent stump]

What’s better to do save up about 2.6k (that’s about my pc price) or save about 3k then look more into it then buy

[last mango]

defo a must buy next time when new build

[fervent stump]

I like how they are now

[tranquil pebble]

have fun with your 3.5 slot mammoths

[last mango]

ugh

[fervent stump]

😭

[last mango]

im thinking of vertically rising my card

so to have USB A/C pcie card back in

or probs better off a usb c/a powered hub

[tranquil pebble]

they were double slot for so long... why couldnt it stay this way...

[last mango]

HUH. didnt know they were so cheap..

opinions anyone? 16x pcie riser or a powered hub

[tranquil pebble]

riser

[last mango]

yeah, i got a kit from 216 case accesorries

[fervent stump]

What’s a trustworthy cable extension that has rgb?

[velvet summit]

usually they're not cable extensions, and just rgb you strap on top pretty much

like those overpriced lian li strimmers

[proud jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-anime-mental-breakdown-on-floor-gif-27026753

[velvet summit]

I FOUND THE FULL VIDEO TO THE VIDEO I HAVE

https://youtu.be/vgRB0JIr37g

[fervent stump]

Oh?

Is this Rgb or is it just blue?

:o

Its better then the strix because I get rgb and save 300 bucks

[velvet summit]

extreme offroading

[storm narwhal]

Real

[storm narwhal]

-Random redditor getting an 800k inheritance, and investing 88% of it in Intel stocks, colorized 2024

[wary fjord]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GOAUyipnM4

135b fund poof

[tranquil pebble]

This and CrowdStrike are literally the hardest stock drops I have seen in a while

[wary fjord]

390 ~ 222 yeah

they deserve it

[tranquil pebble]

fr

[wary fjord]

they put people life in risk

[velvet summit]

Once upon a time
Intel and google were low risk stocks

[wary fjord]

specially those hospitals

they cant use their pc xD

[velvet summit]

The real question is why do those systems run on windows

[tranquil pebble]

surgeries were delayed from it, and that can in fact cost lives

[wary fjord]

imagine if airplain using windows xD like the airplane not airport

and crowdstrike update a bugged update

[tranquil pebble]

fortunately, airplanes are very resillient.

required to be by law

[velvet summit]

Well, you say that, but then Boeing comes along

[wary fjord]

crowdstrike action is same as knocking down your grandma life support accidentally

[tranquil pebble]

yeah and Boeing likely has every govt in the world in their business rn

hyperbole but still

[wary fjord]

tbh ive never heard crowdstrike

in my whole life

xD

i dint know their importance and stuff

[tranquil pebble]

until it exploded

they deserve to unexist at this point

[wary fjord]

cant they still doing a good job it seems..

theres no alternative

theres no competition xD

they are the goto for fortune 500+

[tranquil pebble]

and this is why monopolies are bad

[wary fjord]

since then

[mental yoke]

who wants to help me plan a new build lol

[wary fjord]

#building-and-recc-chat

lol they got the vegas too

why this need crowdstrike its just a huge dvd player xD

[tranquil pebble]

I have a feeling a lot of stuff that did not need it had it anyways

[wary fjord]

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/99738/sad-day-for-gamers-intels-36-core-beast-lake-cpu-rumored-to-blow-away-amds-x3d-is-canceled/index.html

nooo 36 cores ❤️

[elfin mural]

mr.beast cpu

[velvet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-beast-ceres-fauna-mrfauna0101-gif-27709542

[fervent stump]

Is this just white with pink rgb?

[somber skiff]

This is why we can't go back to the moon

[velvet summit]

Real

All the money went into superfluous things

[rough zinc]

This ain’t helping your basic egirl case

[fervent stump]

Shhhhh

Is it?

[rough zinc]

It is

[velvet summit]

Tbf there are only 2 paths frfr
Egirl or goth girl

[fervent stump]

It’s white with pink lights

[velvet summit]

And how is this supposed to make any difference

Still an egirl type build

[storm narwhal]

There is literally no in between

[rough zinc]

Nothing wrong with it, just like to joke about it

[rough zinc]

Yeah