#general-chat

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keen shale
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As long as their PSU can handle it, shouldn't be any issues.

elfin mural
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So I'm thinking this too deep

idle nexus
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my gf's brother's wife bought an NZedXT prebuilt recently with a 3050 in it. I was so disappointed

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they didn't even talk to me

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heck... what can ya do

hot pumice
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i feel like even dodgy group reg psus would run a 4060ti without tripping tbf

elfin mural
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This friend group is good, but they get very confused about tech

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But alas, it's just people in general lol

idle nexus
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when I went to go see it I brought my 3060 12gb with me in case they wanted to borrow it lol

elfin mural
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I can't expect em to listen

worthy meteor
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Not tripping might not always be a good thing

unreal trail
elfin mural
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They're building a new pc

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RM850e chosen for psu

idle nexus
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jk

hot pumice
unreal trail
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dang

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I love mushrooms

hot pumice
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scp is a myth, shorts r meant to happen

elfin mural
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That I don't have issues with, cuz that's pretty good

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One thing I got thru into them was cooler debate

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Something that was obviously better for the same price

idle nexus
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heck now 4933 won't POST

worthy meteor
hot pumice
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my daily has been running a dell server tower cooler gravity mounted on the cpu for like 3 years now

elfin mural
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lmao

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Alright Imma head off to bed then

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I just needed to take it here

hot pumice
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me too it's 3am

worthy meteor
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Good night

hot pumice
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gn

worthy meteor
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Get sleep

dusk knot
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No one here plays overwatch?

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Good

idle nexus
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wym it's 1:15pm

idle nexus
mental yoke
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Snagged this just now

sinful blade
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@mental yoke when are you building me a pc

mental yoke
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Idk man

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I just dropped $2k on this

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Soo

idle nexus
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16gb ddr5 is kinda rare

sinful blade
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Ez. Just donate all of your unused/old stuff to mejensen2

idle nexus
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I have some OEM dell DDR5 that are 8gb each... m-die but

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what a dumb purchase in hindsight

sinful blade
idle nexus
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7800X3D would've been fire

mental yoke
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Will you take a i7-870 + R9 380 off my hands?

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So i dont have to worry about it

idle nexus
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worried the wind will blow & it turns to dust? lol

mental yoke
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Looks like this

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Want it or not

idle nexus
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ah nice plenty of dust protection

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bench it for hwbot

mental yoke
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Uh

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It gets 176 fps max

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LMAO

idle nexus
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it's liberating when you have new hardware & you can beat the crap out of the old hardware now

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heck nvm it's not a K SKU so probably won't be much fun

dusk knot
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The fortnites

keen shale
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Pff, I beat the crap out of my 3070OC when it was new

rough zinc
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I’m still beating the crap out of my 4090 lmao

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EVC is a beautiful thing

keen shale
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I'm kinda paranoid to now because EVGA doesn't make GPU's anymore

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I have a relic

idle nexus
idle nexus
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I rebuilt that damn bitspower block like 25x

sinful blade
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I will actively take garbage if it means I can have a pc again

keen shale
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If it works it's not garbage 😉

sinful blade
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I offered to take an old optiplex off a guy that was worse than my Xbox to trade

rough zinc
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Have you tried K5 pro instead of pads?

idle nexus
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what's that lol

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the puddy?

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been meaning to actually

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K5 pro... will investigate

keen shale
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Mmm, first google results are not great

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It boils, makes air pockets, oil residue and massivle horrible cleanup

rough zinc
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Most of that I’m pretty sure comes from user error of not using it within the gap tolerances

keen shale
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Possibly

rough zinc
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I’ve been using it on my laptop 3080, 3080 12gb and 6950XT without any issues

idle nexus
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so I smear this stuff on & it'll adjust itself accordingly? lol

rough zinc
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The cleanup is the only issue I got with it

idle nexus
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I mean, at this point, it sounds worth it

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110C is throttle temp & 120C is degradation territory on Micron GDDR6X

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and uh

rough zinc
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I’m not 100% positive how the performance compares to a good pad application

idle nexus
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it's bad enough that I considered putting MX-4 on instead of pads since .5mm is so thin

rough zinc
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Have you tried .75mm pads?

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Weird, block install guide says to use 1mm pads, maybe you just have been using some stiff pads?

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I got a 4090 TUF on a bitspower Orion block and have no issues at all with 1mm pads but maybe the design is slightly different

idle nexus
rough zinc
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Oh the stock pads sucked imo

idle nexus
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the problem was that I used liquid metal on the GPU core which is really thin compared to paste

rough zinc
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I didn’t even use them

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I’m also using LM on the core

idle nexus
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so I wasn't getting full contact on the GPU & the hotspot temp was almost as bad as the memory temps are now

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78.5C is pretty heckin nice for hotspot but that memory junction temp is awful

rough zinc
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Jeez my hotspot is at most 60

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Let me see what my mem junction temp is

idle nexus
idle nexus
rough zinc
idle nexus
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heck this was only up to 433 GPU core

rough zinc
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I also have a majorly overkill radiator setup

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GTX 420 + GTX 360

idle nexus
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is this inside a case?

rough zinc
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Yeah

idle nexus
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I have two 360s & a 140 in my case

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one of the 360s is a fat ass too

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one 360 is only 27mm but the other is uh... let me find it

rough zinc
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This is with my fans at 30%

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Let me set them to 100 and see how it is

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i also forgot i flashed this TUF with a HOF bios

idle nexus
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heck I can't find it but I think it's 64mm radiator

rough zinc
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Damn he fat

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Both of mine are 54

idle nexus
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lol ig I gotta find a way to put my external 280mm in this build now

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well outside of it

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I used to run 1 360mm, 1 400mm (2x200mm fan), 1 140mm, & an external 280mm on 12900K/3080ti

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I mean that build is still on the floor next to me rn. I had to borrow the 280mm's fans but otherwise it's intact

rough zinc
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What are you using to put load on your GPU?

idle nexus
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so your hotspot hits 86C at 550w

rough zinc
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I’m checking now with my fans actually running lmao

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That’s also under Furmark

idle nexus
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lol Fallout4 with 552 active mods

rough zinc
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Lol

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Yeah I just be running furmark for it KEK

idle nexus
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at 4k HDR it still holds around 105-160fps most of the time

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occasionally it dips when it's loading a settlement or something but I think that's more because of ANOTHER problem I've been having

rough zinc
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LOL

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How tf is it so hot?

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I struggle to go above 50C

idle nexus
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I really don't know tbh

rough zinc
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Same SSD too

idle nexus
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did you remove that foam crap that comes on it?

rough zinc
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Nope

idle nexus
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cuz that does not fit well under the motherboard heatsink

rough zinc
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Wait no, on one of them i did but theres no temperature difference

idle nexus
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did you put a pad in addition to that foam crap or remove the pad that comes on the board?

rough zinc
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3 of them have nothing taken off of them, 1 of them has everythng taken off

idle nexus
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eventually I was gonna install the little fan thing that came with the board instead of just the heatsink that's there rn

rough zinc
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Pad is also on the board

idle nexus
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even tho it's supposed to be for gen5 NVMes

rough zinc
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I had to take out the SSD from the gen5 slot because it was taking lanes from my GPU

idle nexus
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I would've put it on already if it wasn't such a mission to do with pipes in the way

rough zinc
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Woah

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My Aorus master just has a big passive heatsink

idle nexus
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lol I'm sure that stupid little fan will be really noisy

rough zinc
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Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

idle nexus
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actually I'm gonna plug it into this Unify-X here & see lol

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eh no it's pretty quiet actually

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I could probably install it without removing the GPU & pipes... heck maybe I should try rn

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cuz that drive temp sucks

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the screws on it are the type that don't fall off so that might make it ALOT easier

rough zinc
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How cramped is your tubing? Damn

idle nexus
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the problem is it has to get right here

rough zinc
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Thats tight

idle nexus
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the heatsink will definitely end up under the pipe

rough zinc
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Ive gotta go back to hard tubing but no time

idle nexus
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& there's enough space from the GPU that it'll fit

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getting it in there & screwed on is really the issue

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lol cheap hard tubing: Tyle L or M copper pipe form Home Depot

rough zinc
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This is mine minus the air pump

idle nexus
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iirc it's the 1/2" that fits in 16mm OD fittings really well

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nice. don't wanna do memory?

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lol

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I've never had a case where a rad fit on the bottom & I've always wanted one

rough zinc
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It was hard putting that together because of all the fittings being in weird places or being way too close to each other

idle nexus
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that's not a distro on top??

rough zinc
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Just a reservoir

idle nexus
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is that the direct die block?

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looks different from my paperweight

rough zinc
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Nah its just a monoblock

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It aint delidded

idle nexus
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good. the direct die is overpriced garbage

rough zinc
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Thats the EK Z690 aorus master monoblock i got on clearance for like 60

idle nexus
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it's the only disappointment greater than my GPU block

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well for memory performance at least lol

rough zinc
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This is how it was before I redid the loop few weeks ago

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Maintenance was a PAIN with this setup

idle nexus
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looks nice. is that red tubing or red coolant?

rough zinc
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Coolant

idle nexus
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oh man I have that same temperature thing

rough zinc
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It’s just plain out bad

idle nexus
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it has the shut off you can wire into the power switch to kill the PC if it senses overheating?

rough zinc
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Inaccurate as hell, flimsy wires

idle nexus
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oh wait mine is Barrowch & black & red

rough zinc
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The wires off of mine literally snapped off after a light touch

idle nexus
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that's how every freaking rgb cable on my EK GPUs has gone

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drives me nuts

rough zinc
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I ripped out the RGB strips out of my blocks

idle nexus
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it doesn't break tho, it breaks away from the connection

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which means you have to take the entire block apart to fix it

rough zinc
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Took off the RGB ring around the pump/res combo too

idle nexus
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damn that coolant doesn't clog your blocks, etc.? I gave up on anything but clear coolant

rough zinc
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Nope it didn’t

idle nexus
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wow what a miracle lol

rough zinc
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Left a bit of debris behind but never clogged anything

idle nexus
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EK opaque coolant clogged my CPU block so bad

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I didn't notice until everything was running slow & 5900x was hitting TJ max constantly

rough zinc
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I filled it up with clear coolant this time but I didn’t fully clean out my rads well and now the coolant looks white

idle nexus
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I've been using distilled water + Liquid Utopia ever since

rough zinc
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I don’t trust myself to mix it myself

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Just used Corsair XL8 clear

idle nexus
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liquid utopia is like a 5-hour energy

rough zinc
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Can I drink it?

idle nexus
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I just dumped 3/4 of it into the res & let it mix itself

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lol probably not

rough zinc
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Oh this stuff?

idle nexus
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ya

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I've heard mixed things but I wanted to put something other than distilled lol

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didn't know what else to try

rough zinc
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It came with some tubing I bought a while back

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Never using clear tubing ever again tho

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Leaked plasticizer into the coolant majorly

idle nexus
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I've never had clear soft tubing tbh

rough zinc
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Still is in the new coolant too but I couldn’t fully flush out my rads

idle nexus
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just ugly white silicone tubing then ZMT

proud jackal
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Take the shot

idle nexus
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btw if you ever need to clean blocks, did you see what Fitz Polish did for my 3070?

rough zinc
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I need an excuse to use this

idle nexus
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it's been in use for like a week now so I'll let you know if it ends up falling apart

rough zinc
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Tf is fitz polish

idle nexus
rough zinc
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Oh I just used dawn dish soap for that

idle nexus
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ya Fitz Polish. It comes with Rockitcool delid kits to polish the die after you remove the solder

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so I got a big bottle of it & use it on everything now lol

rough zinc
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Ohhh

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I thought it was something the admin Fitz just told you

idle nexus
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lol nah smart dude tho

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it's a must if you use Home Depot plumbing copper tubing lol

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it's also pretty good at cleaning cold plates when liquid metal is all caked on

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ngl it takes awhile tho

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I stained a lot of microfiber cloths lol

keen shale
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Fitz is godly

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Followed closely by Mothers

rough zinc
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Right off the bat, nah it’s pretty bad. Others will help more

sinful blade
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@wide heron what’s your budget

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And any aesthetics you’re going for

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Alright
RGB too? Or just plain ol white?

idle nexus
keen shale
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The All Metal polish, Chrome and Aluminum polish are good. So is their headlight restoration gel goop stuff

sinful blade
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AYO @sweet phoenix @mortal grail

idle nexus
sinful blade
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Fella needs some help

idle nexus
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NuFinish stays on awhile

keen shale
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I stopped using wax years ago

sinful blade
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@wide heron don’t buy anything unless Felix or Bacca tells you to

keen shale
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Mothers CMX Ceramic treatment or my favorite is 303 Graphene

idle nexus
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I would use Mothers Clay Bar then put that stuff on afterwards

sinful blade
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They’re who I usually go to for any decisions

idle nexus
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Wax looks great for like a week & a half lol

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9xxx CPUs release at the end of the month so you should try to wait just a little longer

sinful blade
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Also, don’t bother going to the pcmr server. They tend to show favouritism a lot. plus not a lot of them are very smart

idle nexus
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if 9xxx CPUs are too expensive, 7xxx should be cheaper since not newest anymore

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also LGA1700 isn't dead apparently

idle nexus
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well rumor has it at least

proud jackal
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Intel will come out on top right guys?

idle nexus
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I dunno. Their silence on this stability is deafening

sinful blade
idle nexus
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if they knew what the problem was & how to solve it, they'd be telling us

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I wonder if they actually ever believed it was motherboard power limits at fault

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or if that was to buy more time

sinful blade
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Pcmr is just a server full of people who like computers
Rather than a server full of people who know about computers

idle nexus
sinful blade
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I went in there I think a year ago

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Cuz I had an issue with booting into safe mode

idle nexus
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anytime I go in there to ask a question, I leave like 2 hours later with no answer & having tried to help 2-3 people fix Windows boot issues

sinful blade
idle nexus
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lol msconfig or hold shift when you click restart usually works

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Microsoft server you just wanna like do an at everyone to run sfc & dism at least

sinful blade
idle nexus
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msconfig is easiest cuz you don't have to do startup settings, etc. but sucks when you forget to turn it back off lol

proud jackal
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Bought new sheets. Tempted to get new pillows

idle nexus
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12900K doesn't have stability issues apparently so there's that at least lol

idle nexus
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before you know it, you'll be hanging "Live, Laugh, Love" stuff up in your laundry room & watching HGTV

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AHH I'm next aren't I?

sinful blade
lethal cave
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How long do you guys think it will take for Newegg to restock the sapphire 7900 gre pure

sinful blade
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None of us here work for Newegg

idle nexus
# sinful blade Does the 7600x beat it out though perf wise?

ehh hard to imagine it does but I've never really thought about it. I'm sure 12900K is better for stuff that uses a lot of cores but gaming, not sure. Forcing 12900K to run even like 1-2 cores at 55x was a mission. Don't even get me started on tuning memory

sinful blade
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Single core beats it easily

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Intel > Amd ****

idle nexus
sinful blade
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Oh wait

idle nexus
sinful blade
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5800X3D would beat it for gaming perf

idle nexus
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AMD seems to be where the best value lies lately

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Intel 13th/14th struggled even before stability issues were widespread

sinful blade
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Bacca is comin on it looks like @wide heron

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So just reiterate your requests + list

idle nexus
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it's actually kind of hard to believe Intel wouldn't toss LGA1700 after this debacle but who knows

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I just want a 13900KS that's a better bin lmao

idle nexus
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Bartlett Lake on LGA1700?

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rumor is 12 pcores at some point

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either they've realized they need to do what AMD does with long-term platform support or Arrow Lake isn't looking too good lol

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supposedly Arrow Lake isn't even 6ghz

sinful blade
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actually gets 11 cores

idle nexus
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not 6ghz, no hyperthreading, & what? tons of ecores?

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let's be honest, no one likes ecores lol

sinful blade
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Isn’t Amd coming out with some low budget CPUs next year?

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Or is that gpus

idle nexus
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supposedly even more AM4 CPUs come out this month with new 9xxx

sinful blade
idle nexus
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more AM4, 9xxx series, & 9xxx series will support OC on X3D other than just PBO

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i.e. AMD Upvote Intel downvote it seems

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& I usually prefer Intel

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which makes little sense really

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I've never gotten an Intel CPU that was anything but slightly better than average

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but my AMD CPUs have generally looked pretty good

idle nexus
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my 13900KS is pretty crappy. I see non KSs performing better

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13/14th gen memory controller is just confused I think

sinful blade
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Wait for chat

proud jackal
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Do I buy a purple pillow.

keen shale
proud jackal
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WHY IS IT $250

keen shale
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Cuz best pillow ever

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How much is good sleep worth to you?

proud jackal
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Damn it vintage fine I'll buy it

keen shale
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I was only half serious lol

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Def try before you buy, it's available in Mattress stores

proud jackal
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Wait king or queen

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And why high

keen shale
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Hi because neck support, you do sink into it just a bit. Wife got low, sink too much for her

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DOn't remember what size we got, brb

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Seriously DO NOT PILLOW FIGHT WITH THIS PILLOW, you'll kill someone. It's heavy

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My receipt does not state King or Queen, lemme check pillow

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We got Queens because queen size bed. If you got a king size bed and sheets, get the King

proud jackal
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I have a full

keen shale
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Oh, get a queen then

deep parcel
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Hello there Vintage! Long time no see.

keen shale
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Been a few years 😂

deep parcel
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indeed lol

proud jackal
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@keen shale why the cooling pro vs the other breeze pillow? Both are $200

keen shale
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I cannot answer. Store didn't have that one, only the Pro, so I got the Pro.

modern imp
modern imp
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multicore perf per dollar is pretty meh right now besides the discounted 7950x

sinful blade
modern imp
modern imp
keen shale
rough zinc
high star
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day 2 of duolingo streak

modern imp
rough zinc
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That’s hype

modern imp
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not really

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12+0 is stupid

rough zinc
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Well hype as in still something to go to rather than dead end platform

modern imp
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I mean it's just a part that performs worse than 8+16

keen shale
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GGG POE livestream in 3 minutes, if anyone interested

rough zinc
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Ahh,

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Yeahh imma stick with my 13900k then

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Don’t think I’ll upgrade for a while

modern imp
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and realistically in any application that scales beyond 8 cores a gracemont cluster will outperform a single raptorcove core

tranquil pebble
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A big No Mans Sky update apparently dropped yesterday. Going to check it out.

keen shale
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Is that the Worlds Part 1? If so, it's huge and looks awesome

tranquil pebble
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yeah

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very based game dev

keen shale
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I've seen vids, looks freaking awesome. Might go check it out this weekend

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They failed hard at first. Then took failure, threw it in the trash and became better. GOATed devs for sure.

high star
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but at a glance it looks okay
you can probably go for a cheaper ssd

chrome mirage
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I test drove a Honda s2000

proud jackal
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Why

chrome mirage
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It must have a racing clutch because it was a workout every time I pressed the pedal. Also it likes to big down and stall below 3000rpm

chrome mirage
proud jackal
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VTEC go wooooo

chrome mirage
keen shale
chrome mirage
keen shale
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That seems more like an issue than an aftermarket clutch. Bogging below 3K RPM is also an issue, would avoid unless you want a project

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I've run stage 2 clutches and they don't push back at all.

chrome mirage
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They want 40k Canadian for it and it's modified so I'm not buying it.

keen shale
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Amen.

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They're fun to drive though if you get a good one

icy ore
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Dadgum

chrome mirage
keen shale
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I'd wager the fluid need cleaned or the fork assembly greased.

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Not cleaned, changed lol

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That ain't right

chrome mirage
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Probably. The dealership it was at said they need to take a look at it because something was rattling too.

keen shale
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Eek!

amber raptor
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Dealing with an issue I've never encountered before and I'd like some assistance

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PC was running fine last night. Went to work, came back and this is what i come home to...

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Anyone?

little steppe
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Any advice fr ssd ps5 1tb

mental yoke
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Psu issue maybe

wary fjord
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Disassemble it... Do a barebonee test

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Maybe some component there are shorted

keen shale
wary fjord
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I do recommend to have 2nd psu nowadays

amber raptor
wary fjord
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Just for testing

amber raptor
proud jackal
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.... I'm not going to buy new pillows.....

wary fjord
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Its hard to find a friend that willing to yank their psu for my usage

mental yoke
proud jackal
wary fjord
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Muat be nice to have spare xD hopefully my pc wont break

rancid juniper
wary fjord
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-1 lol

wary fjord
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Just change punda and it looks new again

worthy meteor
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Become purple

amber raptor
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Had to remove GPU, spare does not have 2 8 pins

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Or rather it "does" but it's a daisy chained 2x6+2 from the Era of gtx 900s

keen shale
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IE gaming load on it

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GPu's doin't take much wattage at idle

amber raptor
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I don't trust this cheap ass non rated Thermaltake much personally

keen shale
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Throw the other PSU in the spare machine then

amber raptor
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Failure verified, going to get new PSU now.

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Just gotta make it to bestbuy in 90 minutes

proud jackal
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May I should buy these pillows

storm narwhal
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Hope it's just the PSU and only the PSU that went kaput

craggy shoal
velvet summit
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I have so much schiit

craggy shoal
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Bro has a stack of Schiit

velvet summit
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I'm so full of schiit

proud jackal
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I have the schiit hel2e

amber raptor
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On a system that barely draws 300W

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Well was in luck best buy had a decent one on the shelf.

craggy shoal
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8 years ago makes sense now lolll

storm narwhal
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That's some good schiit

velvet summit
storm narwhal
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Magni Vali stack

proud jackal
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Should I get magni modi

amber raptor
proud jackal
storm narwhal
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I probably don't need it at all

velvet summit
storm narwhal
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But damn I want it

proud jackal
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Me neither

craggy shoal
storm narwhal
proud jackal
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The voice in the back of my head is like "will magni modi make my hifiman edition xs sound better?

amber raptor
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Figured this was worth it.

velvet summit
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Also you don't really need Magni modi anymore because Magni now has a unison DAC so my stack is the Magni unity w/ DAC and a vali 3

amber raptor
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Give myself a bit of overhead when I go to a 40 or 50 series in like 3 years 💀

storm narwhal
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Probably

velvet summit
storm narwhal
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So what's the Vali for?

proud jackal
velvet summit
storm narwhal
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I don't think I'll need tube for a while lmao

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Tho I do have nice flacs

velvet summit
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As you can see by the glowy thingy that I was trying to write another word for but couldn't spell

craggy shoal
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toob

storm narwhal
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It could be referred to

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As a you tube

velvet summit
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Metube

storm narwhal
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Chat watching me make terrible joke

velvet summit
storm narwhal
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this is not twitch pls

velvet summit
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Metube

storm narwhal
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Wow I know that pokemon

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Metoob

craggy shoal
rancid juniper
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that moment when AMD relive is more stable than obs

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goofy software introduces stutter no matter what encoder i use

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i cant lie, thats one of the few things good about "AI"

opaque sedge
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Guys is there a way to save jackie in cyberpunk or is it a canon event…

storm narwhal
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He was invincible

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But somehow he was totally fine during gunfights-

idle nexus
rancid juniper
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what if this character knew he was not going to last long so he decided to use secret invicibility tech in the beginning, but it failed later on

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🤔

idle nexus
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you can't save him because then who would you see when you [jk I won't ruin the ending]

nocturne flicker
#

Snape killed Gandalf

idle nexus
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Your kidnapped son is head of the Institute & older than you

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[whatever Starfield's stupid ending was]

velvet summit
nocturne flicker
velvet summit
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i forget

nocturne flicker
#

We need more cannon events

velvet summit
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tchalovski (i keep forgetting how to spell his name) got it

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tchaikovski

nocturne flicker
#

...The composer?

modern imp
velvet summit
modern imp
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4.6ghz stock

nocturne flicker
#

Tchaikovsky

idle nexus
idle nexus
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heckin DJR

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it's all like, "I'll run really high frequency! ...but it'll still suck"

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I think memory on my 10900K stops scaling after 1.56 SA/1.46 IO

rancid juniper
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14 nanometers plus plus plus plus

storm narwhal
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14nm+++++++++++++

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Genius

rancid juniper
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More stable than raptorlake

storm narwhal
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Real

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Somehow they screwed up on 10nm+++ or something

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Not enough plus

nocturne flicker
rancid juniper
#

Clean room no more

rancid juniper
idle nexus
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it's such lazy story telling

rancid juniper
#

It's actually getting a bit annoying anytime they do it

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Fr

idle nexus
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it's like the YouTuber reaction videos of storytelling

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jk multiverse actually requires thought

nocturne flicker
#

I'd like it if it was like whoops, you just fell into an invisible wormhole and now you are in a different universe where up is down and everybody is weird

rancid juniper
#

Feels like a content creation slop factory

idle nexus
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not just "LoL soMEoNE elSE maDE a VideO derPZ"

sinful blade
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I REGRET MY CHOICES

idle nexus
sinful blade
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do NOT look up the first 3 letters of multiverse in the gif search in a public place

nocturne flicker
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But the whole ancuent fragments make portal device that go brrrr and the end is never the end is never the end is bleh

sinful blade
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I was going to send a gif of the multiverse bubble expansion thing

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And as I was typing

idle nexus
#

well heck now I have to

rancid juniper
#

Don't forget the "if I see myself in another dimension, there will be a paradox or something"

Wow so crazy

sinful blade
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you’re going to regret your decision

nocturne flicker
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I didn't regret it

idle nexus
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who's this blonde girl?

idle nexus
#

it's not like I wrote M I L

sinful blade
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Yeah I have no idea what would prompt that in the tenor

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Is it slang or something?

nocturne flicker
#

Urbandictionary here I come

rancid juniper
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Lmao

rancid juniper
sinful blade
nocturne flicker
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I did

idle nexus
#

remember skibidi toilet? I hate YouTube lol

velvet summit
velvet summit
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☠️

nocturne flicker
velvet summit
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unfortunately we arent past the skibidi era

sinful blade
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I must not have been paying attention

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Sorry for distracting the conversation

rancid juniper
nocturne flicker
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It is the third entry

rancid juniper
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I'll never understand the appeal of skibidi toilet

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And this is someone who watched the MLG era

velvet summit
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hear me out

#

mlg skibidi toilet

idle nexus
rancid juniper
idle nexus
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I hate youtube so much lmao

rancid juniper
nocturne flicker
tranquil pebble
nocturne flicker
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Big boom flashy lights cool

idle nexus
tranquil pebble
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thats the one that did dr hax lol

idle nexus
rancid juniper
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Still goofy material tho

sinful blade
#

T-Minus 24 hours till @sour falcon is back to PA with me

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@sour falcon you wanna give everyone a dial thumbs up when we meet

sour falcon
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@sinful blade you mean dual?

sour falcon
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Not my fault you can’t spell 🗣️

sinful blade
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LISTEN

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are you comin by plane?

idle nexus
#

nope walking

sour falcon
sour falcon
rancid juniper
#

inb4 ggood overclocks his legs to fly

sinful blade
# sour falcon Yeah lol

Be glad you’re not landing at M’s airport
A girl died that left off there recently and now everyone is sad

idle nexus
rancid juniper
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XD

velvet summit
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what the sigma

sour falcon
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That was an accident, I’m going to Harrisburg 🗣️

sinful blade
sour falcon
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My gf was there when the two kids drown in the Susquehanna

idle nexus
#

I wonder if the person working at Newegg laughed before they sent me the world's most mediocre 10900K

sinful blade
sour falcon
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Yeah, 2:01:00

rancid juniper
#

bro probably used his terrible luck for it to happen

sinful blade
rancid juniper
#

wat

sinful blade
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Oh wait

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You left before that

velvet summit
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what they updating that's 17gb

sinful blade
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I wanna get it

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But it’s money

sour falcon
nocturne flicker
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Must sail the high seas instead

velvet summit
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no way they added world war 1

rancid juniper
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DAYUM

velvet summit
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(i read it wrong)

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why was there a 11

rancid juniper
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I'm working on that

velvet summit
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☠️

sinful blade
nocturne flicker
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Sail harder

rancid juniper
sinful blade
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@mental yoke said he’d send me his trash pc but he never responds to mepeepoSadSip

nocturne flicker
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I'll send you Optiplex

sinful blade
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I will take anything that can run windows at this point

rancid juniper
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Na don't be that low

sinful blade
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I mean

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I can upgrade an optiplex somehow

rancid juniper
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Ye just depends on the model

nocturne flicker
#

The Optiplex will be scuffed

sinful blade
rancid juniper
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What's the specs of the optimeme?

velvet summit
sinful blade
rancid juniper
mental yoke
sinful blade
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And how can I get in on it

mental yoke
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Hospital worker buddy

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Lol

sinful blade
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I was actually trying to be an in-home aid

rancid juniper
#

OEM RGB doodoo thumbnails

sinful blade
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Then the very next day I was hired, Covid shut the building down

elfin mural
#

did you know 13-14th sodium 9 dissolves on their own?

rancid juniper
#

There's nothing left

idle nexus
elfin mural
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no, kinda epyc

nocturne flicker
# rancid juniper What's the specs of the optimeme?

The one I have is a 4790 with a Hyper 212 Evo forced on with the small fan from the stock cooler strapped on, a square hole cut into the side panel with a mesh taped and magneted on because it bulges from the 212, 512gb hard drive from 2008 and a 970 not held in by a retention clip on the PCIe slot or any screws

idle nexus
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there's a dual AM4 motherboard? whaa

elfin mural
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that's

elfin mural
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very baller

sinful blade
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My first pc had a 960

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So like

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That’s still an upgrade from my first specs lmao

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I miss my 1080:(

rancid juniper
#

Found the rare RTX 1060 3GB build

nocturne flicker
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Unfortunately the PSU is not ketchup and mustard

elfin mural
idle nexus
sinful blade
rancid juniper
nocturne flicker
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I was going to use it purely to store stuff for a network but then I just built a computer with a 4790k

sinful blade
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Scary way to say “buy this or die”

rancid juniper
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Scawy

elfin mural
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buy this or dissolve like i9's

idle nexus
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10900K won't run 4933 on DJR even with 1.65 SA

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so broken

nocturne flicker
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I also have my 8350 build that had been salvaged for components over time

elfin mural
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I love cpu death memes

nocturne flicker
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That still has the ketchup and mustard cables

sinful blade
#

I have

A 550w PSU

That is all, thank you

idle nexus
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my 13900KS won't degrade as fast

rancid juniper
idle nexus
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cuz I don't really use it lol

elfin mural
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lol fair

sinful blade
rancid juniper
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Can't break it if not used fr

sinful blade
rancid juniper
#

Oh my
Bruh

idle nexus
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I'm gonna have to start shopping for glue

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for when Intel opens the RMA floodgates

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lmao

sinful blade
idle nexus
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oh heck I forgot

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my delidder thing came with a thing for putting IHS back on right

rancid juniper
nocturne flicker
#

Use credit card and only worry about it when you get the bill

rancid juniper
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Lmfao

sinful blade
nocturne flicker
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They have cards for that

sinful blade
#

Only cards I qualify for are ones with $100 deposits

idle nexus
#

100% of people who drink water will die someday!!!

elfin mural
#

mentally challenged

nocturne flicker
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Oh man, I'm going to die, I just drank water

opaque sedge
rancid juniper
#

Just like gamer mald

idle nexus
#

no idea I just saw it on my recommended

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but at least it stopped recommending Jayzanidiot

opaque sedge
#

his comment section is fun

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surprised it isn't turned off

rancid juniper
#

I wonder what user benchmark members are doing now

rancid juniper
#

Probably coping excessively after the Intel fiasco

elfin mural
#

yep

rancid juniper
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Love to see it

idle nexus
#

I'm trying to picture what someone who would put this in their computer would look like

elfin mural
#

NOO IT'S BIASED

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server boards degrading the cpus despite using conservative pl

nocturne flicker
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I found the picture

rancid juniper
#

"There's no way the Intel CPUs degrade, you're tuning it wrong"

-crazy Intel shill

proud jackal
idle nexus
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jk I'd use that waterblock if I got it for $25 on clearance maybe

elfin mural
#

or 3

rancid juniper
#

And clean

rancid juniper
elfin mural
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lol

idle nexus
#

it's hard to imagine someone who knows enough to build a custom loop but also doesn't know enough to listen to jayztwocents

elfin mural
#

those people exist

nocturne flicker
rancid juniper
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I've seen someone who pushed their 14900kf ring clocks as low as 2500mhz, and their pcore and ecore has been lowered as well. Just to prove that it can beat a stock 14900k at like 144w

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🤔

elfin mural
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wuh

rancid juniper
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I gotta bring up that convo, imma try and find it rq

north crescent
nocturne flicker
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Also, I take it back it was an Inspiron

idle nexus
#

I really hate people like that. "JuSt UsE thE crAppY prOfiLE." ya I bought a 13900KS because I wanted to do that

nocturne flicker
#

I am Optiplexless peepoSadSip

rancid juniper
#

It sucks for the people who don't configure their systems. These chips were supposed to work fine right out the box

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Even then, with configuration it still degrades

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Auto L intel

elfin mural
#

inspiron?

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damn

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that's a lower tier

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but higher because

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yes?

idle nexus
#

I like how hardware manufacturers use overclocking as both a shield & a sword. They love it & encourage it when it's a selling point then hide behind it when it leads to RMA. It's like this amazing cake that's still 100% no matter how many pieces they eat

amber raptor
#

Friendly reminder the H510i sucks

craggy shoal
#

Just get a non-K lol

elfin mural
#

thing is

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the non-k i9 still degrades

craggy shoal
amber raptor
#

PC is back tho

elfin mural
#

any 13/14th gen i9 all fall ill

nocturne flicker
elfin mural
#

ya

idle nexus
#

non-K i9 CPUs are for Alienware users

nocturne flicker
#

Sadly it doesn't have the "I stole this from a school" look

mighty hazel
elfin mural
#

ook? monkey?

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not way less, at the same rate

#

look if servers throw errors and shuts down over time

idle nexus
mighty hazel
elfin mural
#

you know it's not normal

mighty hazel
elfin mural
#

server boards run these cpus way below what consumer boards love to run at

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so yeah

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there's no apparent fixes rn

mighty hazel
#

125w is enough to run 2 cores at 6.2ghz

mighty hazel
#

Too much voltage

rancid juniper
idle nexus
#

lol I'm sure there ae Intel is just keeping us in suspense cuz they love us so much

elfin mural
#

not always

mighty hazel
#

That’s the whole thing

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Too much voltage. Someone explained it yesterday in another server I gotta find the message

idle nexus
#

on server boards?

elfin mural
amber raptor
#

well PC is back running, H510i is a nightmare to cable manage, but we are so back.

elfin mural
#

Failing on server boards tho?

idle nexus
#

watch at 11:33 where he explains that they fail in data centers that run them 100% stonk as heck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzHcrbT5D_Y

Intel's 13900k's and 14900k's are crashing at an alarming rate? Why isn't anyone talking about it and what is Intel's solution?

Forum Thread here: https://forum.level1techs.com/t/intels-got-a-problem-13900k-ks-kf-14900k-ks-kf-crashing/213008?u=autumn

0:00 Intro
1:07 The Data
5:08 Data Breakdown
10:17 What's Causing the Problem?
13:30 What's Be...

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mighty hazel
mighty hazel
elfin mural
#

But server boards don't run em high to begin with

modern imp
mighty hazel
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^^

rancid juniper
#

intel can't even confirm what is actually the culprit
they be saying stuff like
-its the microcode
-its the voltage
-we clocked it too high
-frick it, its the mobo manufacturers

modern imp
#

TVB is enabled

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infact supermicro has it forcefully enabled

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you can't disable it unless you manually change the MSR bit within OS

rancid juniper
#

i dont think ive ever used that odd tvb feature, tbh it looked confusing

idle nexus
#

he says they changed out many of them, disabled ecores, etc. & it still fails

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but even IF

mighty hazel
idle nexus
#

TVB isn't some motherboard sorcery

mighty hazel
#

They boost 1 or 2 cores insanely high by shoving a ton of voltage

elfin mural
#

So let's blame no one but the board manus?

modern imp
elfin mural
#

Not Intel for failing to make a product that wouldn't fail

modern imp
#

TVB is a part of the spec

elfin mural
#

Because everyone seems to be coping with that atm

mighty hazel
#

Nah I’d blame intel

elfin mural
#

Just saying what I noticed

mighty hazel
#

You shouldn’t be shoving that much voltage into CPU’s

elfin mural
#

Exactly

north crescent
modern imp
#

Intel is at fault, but W680 boards aren't as good as you think they are

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also supermicro hasn't delivered the etvb fix at all yet

elfin mural
#

Fair enough

mighty hazel
#

As for servers..

nocturne flicker
#

All company bad. All board bad. All consumer bad. Everything bad

mighty hazel
modern imp
#

the other thing is that most W680 boards are extremely and heavily derived from z690 designs

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to the point that memory compatibility with jedec is worse than it really should be

north crescent
mighty hazel
#

Oh

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💀

#

XD

idle nexus
#

The use cases where these CPUs are failing were entirely foreseeable on Intel's part. If they had reservations about whether the CPUs they made could survive those use cases, they never should have released them

mighty hazel
#

That’s why 15th gen is gonna be 5.5ghz not 6.3

elfin mural
#

I agree with this tho

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It's an amalgamation of bad decisions

nocturne flicker
modern imp
modern imp
#

the newer 14th batches that just die randomly with no reason is a completely new issue

mighty hazel
#

Tldr lock it to 5.7ghz and don’t let it boost higher

rancid juniper
idle nexus
#

well Intel could have found ways to mitigate those factors before they released the CPUs. They are in control

mighty hazel
nocturne flicker
#

Frame chasers more like view chasers

modern imp
rancid juniper
north crescent
mighty hazel
#

If it’s degraded, increase voltage

nocturne flicker
rancid juniper
#

LOL

elfin mural
#

That's honestly a band-aid solution

#

Intel's fault for even releasing them

modern imp
rancid juniper
mighty hazel
rancid juniper
#

BRO

mighty hazel
rancid juniper
#

THATS TERRIBLE

mighty hazel
#

It’s i9s mostly

rancid juniper
#

you'll degrade it faster LMFAO

nocturne flicker
elfin mural
#

i5 is safe

amber raptor
#

Nothing else can describe how I feel after my afternoon...

mighty hazel
#

I mean for i9s that are like 6ghz turbo

#

Lock them to 5.7

modern imp
rancid juniper
#

bro is dissing on his psu

modern imp
#

AM5 IO isn't good enough

amber raptor
rancid juniper
high star
idle nexus
#

A major factor in my decision to purchase a 13900KS was that it was among the best performing CPUs available. Reducing performance defeats that entirely

north crescent
# elfin mural i5 is safe

Kinda sorta. i5 is on the breakeven area, still more failures than their should be and isnt completely safe.

elfin mural
mighty hazel
#

Don’t run them stock

high star
#

oh i see

modern imp
elfin mural
#

Because if it is, YIKES

high star
#

i have a r5 bro i'm fine

rancid juniper
modern imp
#

I already get 40K r23 at 253w

high star
#

im gonna get my brother a 13600kf though that should be fine yeah

amber raptor
mighty hazel
#

Yeah

rancid juniper
#

any cpu that consooms more than 200w is wack

high star
#

okay cool

elfin mural
#

imo

high star
#

preech

elfin mural
#

get amd

mighty hazel
elfin mural
#

just to be safe

#

besides intel ded end platform

high star
#

what would the 13600kf equivalent be

idle nexus
modern imp
elfin mural
#

at least for 14th at most

high star
#

haven't payed attention to the market since like 2021

mighty hazel
#

Eh by the time you need to upgrade, next gen intel will be out

idle nexus
elfin mural
#

i know, but i don't trust intel atm

rancid juniper
#

will next gen intel even be good?

#

ryzen 9000 rumors are wild

mighty hazel
#

Lower clock speed, no hyperthreading

amber raptor
mighty hazel
#

But 10% more ipc

modern imp
rancid juniper
#

sus

elfin mural
#

But yeah

#

Terrible psu

#

I'm surprised it lasted 3 whole years

mighty hazel
#

It’s an easy fix but man this stuff wasn’t a problem on 14nm/ skylake

modern imp
#

like at all

nocturne flicker
#

I am broke, so I shall hodl with my underutilized setup for a couple more years

amber raptor
#

Pre-built. Bought in 2021 when GPUs were harder to find than platinum ore...

mighty hazel
elfin mural
#

I wouldn't buy into Intel unless 15th gen really is that good

#

We'll see by then

modern imp
mighty hazel
#

Lower clock speed, no hyperthreading, 10% more ipc. So more or less same performance

elfin mural
#

That's one good thing ofc

modern imp
#

TB4 being on die as standard is neat

high star
#

my 5600 can hold on

nocturne flicker
#

1080p gaming with a 6950xt Oh_No

mighty hazel
#

6950xt isn’t exactly a “broke” setup lol

high star
#

yo real question though am i gonna have to get a new mobo i have a b550

nocturne flicker
#

I had money when I built, I am currently 8k under right now for unrelated reasons

modern imp
elfin mural
#

I kinda wish I had the chance to get acer predator helios neo instead of tuf a15

#

13500hx is kinda nuts

#

and intel is very efficient with idle too so

rancid juniper
#

mobile laptop cpus be like:

amber raptor
#

@elfin mural impressively it's not a recall psu. Pretty well outside of the serial range.

modern imp
#

Intel HX is bad at battery

#

but dragonrange is straight up unusable

elfin mural
#

the 13600k based one?

proud jackal
#

intel will recover right guys?

modern imp
#

HX is RPL-S BGA

proud jackal
elfin mural
#

ah

nocturne flicker
#

Intel still owns the business market yeah?

elfin mural
#

then im not regretting anymore lol

modern imp
elfin mural
#

zen 3+ yields 7-8 hours of batt life on my lappy

modern imp
rancid juniper
#

and my batt life on the i5-1135g7 is straight doodoo water

#

around 2 hours

#

tf?

elfin mural
#

ice lake was bleh