#general-chat

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lone mango
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Did they make a new one

misty sparrow
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i'd like to just roast walmart in general

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they always mess something up

sinful blade
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No
I am in Walmart and I passed by the computer section

misty sparrow
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this doesnt look that good

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also wait your walmart has a computer section?

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mine doesnt

idle nexus
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everyone is hopping on the pc bandwagon these days

sinful blade
misty sparrow
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yeah but mine doesn't have stuff like this in there

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it's always just some windows laptops and chromebooks

sinful blade
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L Walmart

misty sparrow
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and apparently some have gun sections

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didnt know that either

lone mango
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Oh yeah the walmart gun section

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They used to sell some crappy guns but stopped

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Now its just ammo and knives

sinful blade
craggy shoal
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Those are the only computers Target sells

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Selling Celeron laptops for the price of i5/i7 laptops

lone mango
nocturne flicker
misty sparrow
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i think i have that image somewhere in my photo library

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oh no

sinful blade
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This is literally all my target has

misty sparrow
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honestly that sounds about right

neon tulip
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Worth or no i need opinions

misty sparrow
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bonus points for walking into your target to just prove a point

sinful blade
nocturne flicker
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Sam's Club sells computers

sinful blade
craggy shoal
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My audio setup says that you don't need that

nocturne flicker
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What I remember of it wasn't very good.

neon tulip
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I have no idea what headphones to get then

nocturne flicker
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Even worse than Best Buy and Best Buy is pretty bleh anyways

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One time I went to that Best Buy and all they had out were PNY gpus

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Like 3 of them kekw

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They weren't even in a cabinet they were just sat on some shelf at the far end of the tiny computer section

idle nexus
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I had to use the white one

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the black one has a copper cold plate & it's pretty beat

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& frankly I don't wanna clean it rn heck that

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it was either that or use this EK Velocity but it's pretty beat too tbh

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needs to be like completely disassembled & cleaned

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ig both do

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heckin mess

sinful blade
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I have got what I came for

idle nexus
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that C*****r block would look really nice on Apex but I'm keeping my damn Apex lol

velvet summit
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I used up all of mine

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But I've been avoiding going to the Bulk Barn (they sell ingredients in bulk for pretty good prices) to restock my garlic powder because of my coughing

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Though I've nearly fully recovered so

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For now I'll have to stick with only using fresh garlic

idle nexus
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that's probably better anyway

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keeps vampires away too

sinful blade
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That’s where I get it

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That bottle was $1.19

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Love the no spec computers

idle nexus
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1400F lol

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best CPU

velvet summit
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From bulk barn

sinful blade
nocturne flicker
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Store brand of the same size here is 2.49 usd derpyBlob

sinful blade
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Good&gather usually has cheap basic stuff

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But anything that’s special, massive up charge

nocturne flicker
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We have one grocery store in town so they have a monopoly on prices

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And as such they charge what they want

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Don't like it? Go 15 minutes away for the next store

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Also they have contacts in the local government to prevent any competitors from moving in

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Closest we got is a Dollar General

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And they have problems keeping stuff like that in stock

safe cape
rancid juniper
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bruh

velvet summit
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Significantly cheaper than Walmart
Slightly cheaper than the dollar store

nocturne flicker
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Corporate margins go brrrrrr

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Just raise everything a dollar and shrink the size a bit they'll buy it anyways

velvet summit
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Yeah it's a bit more expensive than Costco's 2.5kg garlic powder

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But I don't need that much garlic powder

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I use alot of it, but not 2.5kg lot of it

nocturne flicker
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Actually, the cheapest brand at the local store is 1.39usd for 2.5oz

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Name brand like McCormick is 4.69 for 3.12oz derpyBlob

lone mango
proud jackal
rancid juniper
dusk knot
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This room that is used for general communication concerning electronics and gaming culture between individuals spanning multiple corners of this globe is currently inactive and is in need of a revival

idle nexus
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why is my timestamp off

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the heck

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my computer says 6:43

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nvm

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I wonder how it ends up desynced like that

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oh well

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time to break down 5000D build

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well most of it

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5000D has that extra door thing inside the case on the back

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so pointless

proud jackal
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Wanna buy another 5000d off me?

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It's still in box

idle nexus
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lol one is enough but thanks for offering

mental yoke
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weiners

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still need to decide on my monitor

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34 inch 3440x1440p or 32 inch 4k... I know everyone says the 32 inch is obvious but I already own a 32 inch monitor and essentially I not only want more res but also something bigger to make it feel worth it

hoary zodiac
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What's your pc specs?

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A key advantage of the 1440p over the 4k is that you don't have to upgrade as often if you want to keep gaming at higher settings on the latest titles

mental yoke
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Good point

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because the only other monitor I would get over a 32 inch 4k is the 49 inch 5440x1440

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and I have two 27 inch 1440p monitors I will use on the side

hoary zodiac
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49 inch?

mental yoke
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yes the samsung g9

hoary zodiac
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that's getting pretty close to a 4k monitor tbh

mental yoke
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Yeah but essentially getting that. it would replace all my monitors

hoary zodiac
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but then again the work space

mental yoke
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I'm not ready to split up stuff in zones yet

hoary zodiac
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It can be a bit janky

mental yoke
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In my new house I'm getting a 70 inch desk

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well 70 inches x 50 ish inches L shaped

hoary zodiac
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I think the 34 inch is a good balance

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from a value perspective

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Will you be gaming on the full ultrawide res if you get the 49 inch ultrawide?

mental yoke
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Yes

hoary zodiac
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hmm

mental yoke
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But I'm not getting it now

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I'm waiting to see what comes out later this year.

hoary zodiac
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ultrawide support might be a bit janky for that wide of an aspect ratio

mental yoke
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But I do need to swap out my 32 inch monitor in the meantime

hoary zodiac
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I'd say the 34 inch is a good balance

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you can keep it for longer too

mental yoke
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and surpisngly cheaper thant he 32 inch 4k.

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I mean not really surpringly.

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but yeah

hoary zodiac
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1440p shouldn't be bad at that size

mental yoke
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115ppi for that

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140 ppi for the 4k 32 inch

hoary zodiac
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yeah honestly I'd get the 1440p

mental yoke
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Ok cool

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will do

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thank you

hoary zodiac
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I could be a bit biased but

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I prefer 4K displays with bigger monitors

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so I'd ask around a bit more for other people's advices

mental yoke
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I mean there are TVs that are 4k but the refresh rate won't be higher than 144hz

hoary zodiac
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that is true

mental yoke
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and they make a monitor that's 47 inch or so but that's 120hz.

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So yeah no matter what amount money yuou have, you still have to consider pros and cons.

hoary zodiac
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that's a really good way of looking at things

mental yoke
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but

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I actually was leaning towards the 1440p anyway

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so

hoary zodiac
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yeah the 1440p seems like a better all-rounder to me

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in case you don't end up getting the second upgrade later down the line you can keep your current pc specs more or less the same for a bit longer before the gpu starts struggling at higher settings

mental yoke
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I have a 4090 i913k

hoary zodiac
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well that's the thing

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even with high end cards 4K is still pretty intensive even in 2024

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1080ti used to be a 4K card and now it's more of a 1080p (maybe 1440p for less intensive titles?) card

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then again the 1080ti is also 8 years old

mental yoke
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Now I have to return this 39 inch monitor.

hoary zodiac
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oh you already got the 39 inch?

mental yoke
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Well. It's sitting at my apartment office

hoary zodiac
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oh lol

mental yoke
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Made that mistake with the ppi.

hoary zodiac
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I wouldn't say it's a mistake

mental yoke
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It's only has 4 more ppi than m y 32 inch 1440p

hoary zodiac
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more like a difference in perspective

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oh

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yeah in that case i can see what you mean

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it's a different monitor than the ones we've looked at right?

mental yoke
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and my current desk doesn't have the space. I was just gonna keep it until I moved which now my closing date is next month ;-;

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it was suppose to be now.

north crescent
# rancid juniper https://youtu.be/DeE_gLl3j94?si=MVNLRrg0o-dfh-_v

What's disgusting isnt the fact that Zotac's/MSI's servers were available through web searches, but the fact that there is no user/pass authentication for important information. Should not be able to pull any info at all from the server without auth tokens. Just goes to show how little big companies care about their consumers.

high star
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guys i found a typo on wikipedia

hoary zodiac
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another scandal?

north crescent
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I would not be surprised if I could still pull MSI's/Zotac's info if I knew the specific HTTPS fetch request info.

hoary zodiac
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so we've had what

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asus

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adobe

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now msi

lone mango
hoary zodiac
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is this the trend in 2024

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big tech screwing over consumers

lone mango
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Although when it came to security, they always sucked at it

hoary zodiac
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yeah

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that's the thing with big corps

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they don't care until something really bad happens

lone mango
proud jackal
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How is Big tech expected to sell your information if they get hacked for that information 02shy

high star
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yall hear about the at&t leaks

mental yoke
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Leak deez

rancid juniper
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Security? What's that

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I legit might check since I have an MSI board but I never RMA'd their stuff before

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Wait a minute... Is this why I kept getting over 10+ scam calls this week???

nocturne flicker
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You see, the first mistake you made was thinking that a company would care about their customers

rancid juniper
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True

old fog
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what u do is change your name to Share Holder...every company will take real good care of ya

nocturne flicker
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Anyways, only the techies who watch tech news will hear about it and even some of them will eventually forget about it. The majority of people won't hear about it or will hear about it in passing and quickly forget about it

lone mango
nocturne flicker
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What if we buy stock in all of their companies, collaborate and pool our shares and threaten them if company do bad pepehmmm

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We just a couple hundred million dollars. Ez

rancid juniper
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Hmmmm

nocturne flicker
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Money printer go brrrr

rancid juniper
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That's interesting but will never happen

granite estuary
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Hi newegg discord

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Is anyone good at monitors

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Is the Dell 34” curved ultrawide good?

nocturne flicker
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Techie Consumer Consortium

granite estuary
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144hz

nocturne flicker
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ThiCC for short kekw

granite estuary
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lol

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This montior

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Oh nvm

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I don’t think u could use this

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My 6650 XT can’t do 1440p 144hx

sweet phoenix
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Especially not ultrawide 1440p

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Not that I'd do 1080p above 24"

granite estuary
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I sim race

velvet summit
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vee are

hoary zodiac
proud jackal
sinful blade
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Gg

hoary zodiac
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wtf

sinful blade
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What the white colour tax does to a mf

hoary zodiac
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at that point you can just pay someone to paint it

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perhaps not the pcb

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but still

proud jackal
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time to sell mine

icy ore
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ill give you $12

mental yoke
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Damn uit

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I missed the sale

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I waited too long to buy the monitor I wanted.

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God damn it

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Guess I'll wait for prime days

sinful blade
mental yoke
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I'll probably do that.

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I still need to send this 39 inch monitor back.

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But I really shouldn't be buying much of anything

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I'll be moving within the next month or so

nocturne flicker
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Spend all money on PC. Become in debt for the mighty pc

mental yoke
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Less stuff I have to move the better but I'm way too excited to buy stuff and I can't even have stuff sent to the new house yet

mental yoke
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64gb ddr5 7000mhz

nocturne flicker
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You are doing well young padawan

mental yoke
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Yeah...too well that it's scary

nocturne flicker
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But are you in debt

mental yoke
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Yes, I have a car payment

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and will soon have a mortgage

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and I have student loans

proud jackal
mental yoke
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furniture and stuff

nocturne flicker
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Making a credit card payment or use credit card payment to buy PC upgrade, this is what you must constantly be asking yourself thinkies

mental yoke
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If you get points

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then you are all good

idle nexus
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I should crop myself out of those pictures

proud jackal
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no free thigh pics?

idle nexus
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lol sorry

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let's try again

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Fitz Polish before

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Fitz Polish after

elfin mural
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nice and shiny

idle nexus
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heck of a lot better than it was

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it looked horrible lol

nocturne flicker
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Who is Fitz and why is he Polish derpyBlob

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When do we learn about Fitz Hungarian derpyBlob

proud jackal
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so...... whats the chances of 14900KS going on sale next week

elfin mural
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there's a higher chance of your cpu throwing errors

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than it actually dominating in games

proud jackal
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foxy

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take that back

elfin mural
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but it's true brrrr

sinful blade
mental yoke
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Any of yall know what the 55 means on the motherboard

elfin mural
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POST code?

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Which board is this?

mental yoke
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Z790 Maximus hero

elfin mural
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Lemme see

mental yoke
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ok

elfin mural
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Ram error

mental yoke
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So it’s not in correctly?

elfin mural
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Is this first boot?

mental yoke
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Cuz the ram brand new

elfin mural
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Yeah it's training memory

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Maybe reset cmos

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But give it like 5 mins first

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If nothing happens, reset cmos

mental yoke
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Do I rearrange the ram

proud jackal
tranquil pebble
idle nexus
# mental yoke

55 POST code usually means voltage issue on Z790 Apex at least

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are you setting xmp? how many DIMMs?

devout forum
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@elfin mural Would drawing 365 watts through a PCIE 8-pin and a pigtail 6+2 be a risk?

elfin mural
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yes

proud jackal
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I got 55 to go away by using lower mem clock or turning xmp off all together

elfin mural
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unless you mean

devout forum
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Damn you Corsair
Damn you for not putting an extra 8-pin cable into ATX 3.0 PSUs

elfin mural
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individual cables

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then that's ok

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like one 8 pin

devout forum
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Over this

elfin mural
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one 6+2

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oh that's perfectly fine lmao

devout forum
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Eyyy

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Based

elfin mural
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it literally just splits

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it's an 8 pin that's more versatile

devout forum
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it's Corsair's special sauce PSU connectors to 6+2s

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I do have kind of an aversion to pigtail cables in general

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but if it's safe, that's just a nitpick

velvet summit
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so basically everyone has their own special sauce cables

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some use the same as others, but there's no standardization, even within the same company ☠️

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corsair has like 2 or 3 different psu connectors between their psus iirc

devout forum
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Ye I know that it's just

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If the 2 cables wouldn't be safe for a 7900 XT Nitro+ then I'd have to get a different PSU

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cuz the 850 RMe ATX3.0 is currently deeply discounted due to a vendor having a big sale

idle nexus
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now if you used a splitter to turn a single one into two, that would be dangerous

devout forum
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It's more the limitation of what is included in the box

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It was more a "Would the cables in the box be enough for this card?"

idle nexus
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like this is dangerous

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but it doesn't make sense to me that Corsair or any other PSU brand would sell their PSUs with those cables that have 2x6+2s on the same cable unless it could handle full load from two connections

velvet summit
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^

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forgot where the chevron was lmao

idle nexus
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& OCP should shut the PSU off long before the wire melts or something

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if it was some cheap, no name brand PSU, I'd hesitate but Corsair is legit lol

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Lol this video is kinda good

mental yoke
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My next PC build need to make sure to have fans on the top for exhaust

elfin mural
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ryzen 7 and 5 on zen 3+

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with no igpu

mental yoke
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turning the fps down while in the menu I"m sure let's my system breathe some

somber skiff
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1600 t2 will detect most shorts instantly - but it'll cause your 8800 gtx mosfet to eject itself violently if you botch a voltmod Installer

elfin mural
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mosfet ejection

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i wanna see it

mental yoke
idle nexus
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gigabyte boards detect that I tried to plug a usb c into a usb a cuz I wasn't paying attention & cut power immediatley

mental yoke
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How many ram?

lone mango
somber skiff
elfin mural
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very nice

idle nexus
idle nexus
somber skiff
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Superflower 1600 Ti was on sale + a 3 pack of the new style fans for 300 something recently

idle nexus
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btw after going on & on about using 2080ti instead of 3070 in my son's build, I had to use the 3070 cuz stupid 2080ti has one of those 3 slot things despite a waterblock that makes it a single slot

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the G+ hasn't disappointed yet afik

somber skiff
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Your kid has a better gpu than I did in 2018

idle nexus
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I have a 1300w EVGA uh something & a 1200w Thermaltake ToughPower Grand thing plus like 2 850s & a 750w

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I like to buy a bunch of crap instead of just getting the good thing once lol

idle nexus
somber skiff
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Hey, I had a ti 4600 around then

idle nexus
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in 2018 I had uh whatever was in my cell phone

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cuz I didn't really care lol

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I can't remember what the endless pit to throw money in back then was tho

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actually it was probably going out drinking & clowning

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sounds about right ya

idle nexus
idle nexus
somber skiff
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Soon lisasu2

idle nexus
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too bad tc starts before release

mental yoke
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So I just saw a video and it said that the ram only work if it’s in the a2 spot

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But I have 2 ram

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Or it doesn’t work on the b2 slot

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ok so does that mean I have to use the first two

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Ok let me check it out rq

lone mango
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Do higher end gpus have better encoders or are encoders something that are only buffed each generation

proud jackal
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whats a good dashcam brand/model

lone mango
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Idk they all have mid image quality

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Dashcam pill

proud jackal
lone mango
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Unless a new one came out that is actually good that I don't know about

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But basically its a bunch of chinese manufacturers using the same technology in their products

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Just a bunch of the same stuff

proud jackal
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yeah i saw that linus video

lone mango
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Mine records in "4k" but it looks like 720p

mental yoke
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Yessssss

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😭🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

mental yoke
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🙏😭😭😭😭

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It finally booted

elfin mural
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segmentation might affect video encoders too, but it's usually

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not noticeable

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unless it's like the difference of codecs supported

lone mango
hot pumice
old sluice
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hI

opaque sedge
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Microcenter increased the price on the cpu mobo and ram bundle i got last month lol

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Looks like i got it at a good time

devout forum
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Wow there are some really, REALLY salty Intel owners in YT comments claiming Wendell and Steve are "AMD shills" and "lie to fanboy for Team Poor"

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One guy goes like "My 13700K beats the 7800X3D while drawing less power than that!"

rugged dome
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hi

devout forum
devout forum
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haven't really followed them before but it'd be really funny

rancid juniper
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Always has been

devout forum
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is it UB-tier?

rancid juniper
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Close enough

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There are people who take brand "loyalty" too far it's hilarious

devout forum
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lmao

velvet summit
devout forum
mighty hazel
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You only need a good aio

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People run 14900KS on 360 aio

rancid juniper
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Tbh it doesn't make sense for any CPU to go over 200w+

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For home use that is

devout forum
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Heat issue?
It's not a question of if, it's a question of where

velvet summit
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tbf diy minisplit installation is actually fairly easy

devout forum
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am I the only one smelling cap?

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I think someone's unable to read charts

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Someone speaks some reason, and then the fanboy is back

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My disappointment grows by the second

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Aaaaaand then he goes like "Well you have to pair it with a 6600XT"

sinful blade
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He doesn’t know that I’ll be basically abusing the computer

devout forum
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@sweet phoenix Do you know of any ATX cases similar to the Tower 300?

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ones where the case has a small desk footprint cuz the GPU is vertical in it

mighty hazel
devout forum
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14900K+4090 puts so much heat into the room it's not even funny

mighty hazel
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14900K is gonna be like 100w, that’s nothing

mighty hazel
devout forum
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350 watts in games for the 4090

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Since you're gonna be playing 4k more than likely

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Even at 1440p you're above 300 watts

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400-500 watts will make a lot of heat

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I mostly use my PC lightly (not even utilizing the GPU)
And there's still enough heat output to raise my room temp by over 4 degrees C

mighty hazel
devout forum
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It's still a lot of heat

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And if you don't have AC, you WILL feel it

sweet phoenix
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7800x3d pulls around 80w gaming

mighty hazel
sweet phoenix
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my 13600k chills around 120-150

mighty hazel
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In games?

sweet phoenix
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13900k will be pulling more than 100w i gaurantee you that

devout forum
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7800X3D is 88 watts max power draw under full load

sweet phoenix
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4090 is efficient, that doesn't mean it doesn't output a lot of heat

devout forum
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350-400 watts of power do be creating at least 200 watts of heat

sweet phoenix
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my 13600k+3060 ti rig was enough to heat up my small room after a 2 hour gaming session

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in a p360a under a 280mm aio

devout forum
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^^^^

mighty hazel
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129w overclocked

devout forum
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Yeah no I'm not buying that

sweet phoenix
devout forum
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14900K OC is 100% drawing more

sweet phoenix
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im not saying not to do it

devout forum
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5.5 isn't even a big OC

sweet phoenix
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however i would very much consider a 7950x3d over 14900k

mighty hazel
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Highest is 200w

sweet phoenix
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average, 170w

devout forum
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14900KS advertises 6 GHz boost clocks

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you're not reaching 6 ghz on 130 watts

proud jackal
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buy me 14900ks and ill test for you

mighty hazel
sweet phoenix
proud jackal
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uwu

mighty hazel
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Not all core

sweet phoenix
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7950x3d runs at 1/3 the wattage, has better gaming perf most of the time, and is on an upgradable platform

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also there's the degradation issues with intels high end at the moment

mighty hazel
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Don’t wanna buy one rn

sweet phoenix
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7950x3d.

devout forum
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I mean excuse me?

sweet phoenix
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8950x comes out next month i believe

mighty hazel
sweet phoenix
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i really hope intel makes something to combat x3d cpus

ancient swift
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Getting a Stream Deck for 75$ 😄

mighty hazel
sweet phoenix
sweet phoenix
mighty hazel
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14900K is the closest they have to an x3d

devout forum
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But yeah 14900K eats over double the power in lightly threaded loads like games as the 7800X3D does at full load

And the 7800X3D is outright faster than a 14900K in gaming

mighty hazel
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It’s like 4% difference at 1080p with a 4090 so

devout forum
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I just can't see any reason to get a 900 SKU Intel chip rn

sweet phoenix
mighty hazel
ancient swift
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imagine playing 1080p with a 4090

sweet phoenix
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i mean like a 7800x3d

mighty hazel
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Dream setup

ancient swift
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like, go up to 1440p nerd

mighty hazel
#

1080p 240hz with 4090 KermitEmperor

devout forum
sweet phoenix
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a cheaper, non flagship cpu that destroys in gaming

ancient swift
sweet phoenix
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7600x3d would have done amazingly, i don't know why it wasn't a thing

mighty hazel
#

Not just esports

devout forum
sweet phoenix
mighty hazel
sweet phoenix
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560hz is IPS

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or TN

devout forum
#

That MIGHT be justifiable in some ways

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if you REALLY need high refresh rate

sweet phoenix
#

OLED 360hz over 540hz anything else any day of the week

mighty hazel
#

2070 or 2060 super and it’ll run 600 fps in val/ ow etc

devout forum
#

But at that point you have all your PCs, gear and stuff sponsored anyway so who cares?

sweet phoenix
ancient swift
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Mini LED 1440p has been good to me

sweet phoenix
ancient swift
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Really happy with this monitor actually

sweet phoenix
#

lower response time, very smooth

devout forum
mighty hazel
#

Most esports pros ironically don’t have 360hz and 4090s on their personal setups

devout forum
#

I'm making the point that it'd be so hyperspecialized it's almost stupid

mighty hazel
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They have like 2070s and 240hz monitors

sweet phoenix
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there's literally no reason to buy a super high refresh rate monitor over OLED atp

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like, whatsoever

devout forum
#

Aaaaaanyway

mighty hazel
#

They’re more expensive

devout forum
#

my point about the 14900K stands

mighty hazel
devout forum
#

It's pretty much pointless for gaming

sweet phoenix
ancient swift
mighty hazel
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For 1080p

sweet phoenix
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a 240hz IPS 1440p is 250

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that's different

devout forum
#

Now if you're a content creator who makes things and you can for some reason only have a single PC?
Sure, there is an argument, but if you can buy 4090s and 14900Ks you can get 2 PCs

ancient swift
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14700k or 7800x3d would be all you need for gaming. Anything more is just poor returns

mighty hazel
#

250 for 1440? How

sweet phoenix
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i was talking about 360+

sweet phoenix
#

actually now that i think about it that monitor has some issues

ancient swift
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I got a 180hz Mini LED 1440p for like 270$.

sweet phoenix
devout forum
#

Asus released a new 1440p IPS with a good price tag

sweet phoenix
#

miniled is a good choice

mighty hazel
#

That’s 170hz tho

devout forum
#

even has variable overdrive

sweet phoenix
sweet phoenix
devout forum
#

HUB seemed to like it

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It wasn't outstanding

devout forum
#

But it brought what it needed

sweet phoenix
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i just wouldn't get it, i forgot but it has major issues

devout forum
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sweet phoenix
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acer is stupid

mighty hazel
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LOL

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Their names sound like someone just hit their hands on the keyboard randomly

devout forum
sweet phoenix
#

can we mention the phanteks xt pro ultra please

sweet phoenix
devout forum
sweet phoenix
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290 is pretty high, it's IPS right?

ancient swift
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AOC Q27G3XMN 27" is the one I got

sweet phoenix
#

not mini LED?

devout forum
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Yes, IPS

sweet phoenix
#

yeah I'd pass until that comes down to 240 or under

devout forum
#

it's apparently near the limit with what is possible on current IPS panels

sweet phoenix
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the higher end of that only if it's a good panel, like the m27q

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hm

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i could see 240-260 if that's true

devout forum
#

HUB said it's really good for money

sweet phoenix
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people are paid to say things

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it would have to be better than the m27q for over 260 to be justifiable

devout forum
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Ye I know

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One sec

sweet phoenix
#

also speaking in terms of bang for your buck

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that absolutely makes no sense (speaking about them, not you)

devout forum
sweet phoenix
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bang for your buck is good value, you can get a monitor like the dell one i linked above, or even a $160 asrock 1440p high refresh rn, those would be bang for your buck

mighty hazel
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Sometimes a lower refresh can be better than higher refresh, like some 240hs are better than 360hs monitors

sweet phoenix
devout forum
sweet phoenix
devout forum
sweet phoenix
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panel type, panel quality, firmware, build quality, quality control

devout forum
#

that's really the selling point, the variable overdrive, and it being tuned really well out of the box

sweet phoenix
#

290 is very overpriced

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end of the day

devout forum
#

I'm just saying what it is

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I dunno what MSRP is supposed to be

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@sweet phoenix In fact I can get one for less than the M27Q

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(though that might be the Gigabyte being overpriced here, not the Asus being good value)

deep parcel
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@devout forum I bought that monitor… don’t

devout forum
#

Hm?

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What's wrong with it?

deep parcel
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It does not handle 180hz at all

devout forum
#

That's weird

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Is it flickering or something like that?

deep parcel
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I have to use it on 165hz or it has lines across the screen

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Yeah flickering lines at 180hz

devout forum
#

RMA

ancient swift
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Asus RMA lol

deep parcel
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Yeah…

devout forum
#

Worth a try

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I mean yeah I know the irony

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You don't have to remind me

deep parcel
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I’m good. I already got my money refunded from Amazon so it was basically a free monitor

safe cape
#

if i turn hot swap off on my ssd

devout forum
#

I mean hey that's nice

safe cape
#

in the bios

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no problem ?

devout forum
#

At least Amazon made things right for you

deep parcel
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Yep they usually do

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I mean it’s a decent monitor just kinda cheap all around

#

And don’t expect 180hz for long. It held 180hz for a week then started flickering

devout forum
#

You probably got a faulty panel tbf

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it happens

deep parcel
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Prob but 180hz is technically an overclock

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They don’t market it as that but it is what it is. They only say that the screen is overclocked for 180hz in 1 spot of the listing if I remember

devout forum
#

OMG he's back at it

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He's back to spewing bullcrap

deep parcel
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Also I got it for 230 on sale I think

grand kernel
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i mean... you'd expect a 13700k to beat a 7800x3d in multicore

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and yes the 13700k does have better idle power than ryzen by far

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nothing he said is wrong, he's just coping by cherrypicking scenarios where the 13700k does win

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well

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except for the 10 minute boot times part

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that's fixed now

ancient swift
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10 minute boot times? that'd be crazy

grand kernel
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it was a reality when am5 first launched

devout forum
#

And COMPLETELY ignoring that 99% of people buying a 13700K buy it for gaming, in which the 7800X3D will handily shred it

grand kernel
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top of the line 7950x systems would boot slower than a 10 year old system with a hard drive lol

devout forum
#

It was memory training related iirc

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the slow booting

grand kernel
#

also yes

devout forum
#

But yeah

grand kernel
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that's why it got fixed by later agesa versions

devout forum
#

Dude is technically true, but clearly shows being out of touch or outright fanboying

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I personally don't really gaf about 3DMark scores

I care much more for framerates and turn times

grand kernel
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i do really like the low idle power of intel chips though

worthy meteor
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Can always cherry pick data to prove your point

grand kernel
#

makes a big difference working in the summer

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30 watts difference

devout forum
#

Yeah I will concede on that

grand kernel
#

that is something more valid than benchmark scores

devout forum
#

Idle/light load power consumption is pretty big

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my 7600X do spit out a good amount of heat even when lightly using it

grand kernel
#

well idk the idle power of 7800x3d

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my 5800x idled at 35w

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with 1.1 ish vsoc

devout forum
#

lemme check

grand kernel
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oh that's a nice improvement

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assuming you are running some kind of xmp/ram oc with fixed vsoc?

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i got 20w idle power with jedec ddr4-2666

devout forum
#

This is full load

grand kernel
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35 idle power with manual oc ddr4-3800

devout forum
#

which I mean at FULL LOAD 88 watts is ridiculous

grand kernel
#

yeah i remember seeing even less than that in p95 since i used CO

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70 watts in prime95

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chilling at 70C under $30 air cooler lol

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meanwhile my 13700K

ancient swift
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29w is the idle from what I see on google

grand kernel
#

i'm fairly certain it would want 500W at stock if i had the cooling for it

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but i can't cool it with my galahad 360 and contact frame

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so it thermal throttles a ton at stock to maintain the 350W that i can cool

north crescent
#

Its funny how AMD has great load power but terrible idle power

grand kernel
#

yeah

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you can get the intel chips to have good load efficiency too

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but stock behavior is ridiculous

devout forum
#

It's got to do with architectural stuff on AMD

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IO die needs a set amount regardless of load

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but yeah 30w idle is

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Not amazing

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88 watt full load is incredible though

grand kernel
#

yeah having to run fclk at 2200mhz or whatever all the time doesn't help

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intel chip pretty much shuts down at idle lol

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on a debloated system ive even see 1.6W idle

elfin mural
#

i notice that on my laptop as well

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it can't go below 5w without being so sad

grand kernel
#

it's beautiful

elfin mural
#

zen 3+

grand kernel
#

your laptop is monolithic

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so you don't have the same problem

elfin mural
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i guess lol

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it has no fancy stuff

grand kernel
#

the problem is only on desktop chips

devout forum
#

At the end of the day, I'd argue that full load power draw is probably more important than idle power draw

grand kernel
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a laptop cpu that idled at 20w+ would be dead on arrival lol

devout forum
#

I mean yeah low idle draw is great

But if you have a 200+ watt draw under full load, you'll feel that

grand kernel
#

if you use your pc for mostly work and some gaming the intel chip could very well be more efficient overall

devout forum
#

I for one am curious what the next gen AMD will come out with

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the 8700X is ALLEGEDLY gonna be faster in gaming than a 7800X3D

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which would be wild

north crescent
devout forum
#

it all depends on use case and specific values how it averages out

grand kernel
#

like i'm usually using my pc for low intensity work 12 hours a day and gaming 3 hours a day

on my 13700K:
low intensity work = 4W * 12 hours = 48 watt hours
gaming = 120W * 3 hours = 360 watt hours

total consumption for the day = 408 watt hours

on my old 5800X:
low intensity work = 35W * 12 hours = 420 watt hours
gaming = 80W * 3 hours = 240 watt hours

total consumption for the day = 660 watt hours

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so my 13700K is a LOT more efficient than my 5800X was for my typical day

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just depends on your use case

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also the 13700K gaming load is nowhere near synthetic multicore load

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i daily slightly below stock voltage with a 5.5/4.9/4.3 oc and HT off

elfin mural
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idle matters huh

north crescent
#

My stock 13600k that I should really get to UVing at least is like 70w - 85w gaming.

devout forum
#

my 7600X system does 45-50 watts on CPU watching Youtube and typing on Discord

grand kernel
#

idle very much matters

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if idle is most of your day

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if you're doing nothing but gaming on your pc yeah ryzen is going to win

devout forum
#

I mean yeah it's not the greatest, and it's likely more than my old laptop, but that's a very different thing

grand kernel
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45-50 watts for youtube and discord is lowkey kind of horrifying lol

devout forum
#

7600X is also kind of a trap methinks

devout forum
north crescent
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Pretty sure Florida banned Dell/Alienware on certain computers/monitors a year ago due to bad idles

devout forum
#

For some reason I can't undervolt it

grand kernel
#

my mobo isn't particularly high end

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can you CO?

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i'm using a $100 ddr4 mobo

devout forum
#

damn

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Forgor about the thing

grand kernel
#

i can see it lol

devout forum
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You get my point then

grand kernel
#

ryzen master is malware 🗣️

devout forum
#

I mean mobo outright doesn't undervolt

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and CO

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IDK if the mobo-side CO does anything

north crescent
#

Fun fact, ctrl+z goes back to previous message. You can then quickly remove funni word and send again

devout forum
#

It don't really seem to

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Correction:
Ryzen Master just crashes my PC
And mobo menus don't seem to do anything

grand kernel
#

you'd have to run prime95 and compare effective clocks to see if CO is doing anything

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CO doesn't lower the power target

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just shifts the V/F curve

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CO usually just targets higher performance at the same power target

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instead of same performance at lower power target

devout forum
#

Seems funky to me

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This mobo has been nothing but pain remember?

grand kernel
#

though if you have an x3d chip you'll see a big difference in power draw with CO cause it's not trying to clock any higher

devout forum
#

Can't update bios either

grand kernel
#

what happens when you try to update bios

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AMD mobo not being able to update bios is 💀

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considering how... amazing... their early bios versions tend to be

north crescent
#

Im hoping AMDs move away from Agesa (they are still doing that right?) is going to improve things

devout forum
#

Bios update outright hardlocks the entire system on a black screen until I reset CMOS

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As soon as it begins updating

grand kernel
#

idk i think they just dont have the resources dedicated to software/firmware to have polished releases

devout forum
#

Like 2 seconds after bringing up the progress bar
System shuts down, boots to black screen, stays there

grand kernel
#

at least it doesn't brick?

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maybe you can ch341a it

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average amd user experience 💀

north crescent
devout forum
#

CPU fan spins, RBG on it lights up but it never gets any further

grand kernel
#

when was the last time amd released a polished product

devout forum
#

Mobo is definitely fricked

grand kernel
#

maybe 6900xt? i don't remember if 6900xt had any issues other than supply

devout forum
#

I have no idea in what way but it is

north crescent
#

On first reboot, did you see it POST through mobo LED debug stuff?

lone mango
north crescent
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I assume this was also through USB stick. Was stick formatted to whatever (FAT32?), firmware in USB stick unzipped, with correct naming, etc? Basically whatever the instructions were in manual.

devout forum
devout forum
#

It's an Asus Prime B650M-A Wifi II (aka the Benchmark Edition™️)

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I hate it with a burning passion, but it is what it is

chrome mirage
#

Saying goodbye to my old card today. Selling it to someone who needs it more.

devout forum
#

For now I'll have to just deal with it

velvet summit
#

Who decided that adding a dent to a box would be goof

#

Good

chrome mirage
north crescent
#

Why is aSUS' FAQ not filtered by CPU company?... Why am I getting XTU software stuf for AMD?...

velvet summit
#

Asus more like a bad ahahahaha........

devout forum
#

I'm just

#

Disappointed in Asus

#

100% not getting another Mobo from them

north crescent
devout forum
#

It's absolutely bottom-tier trash

#

But this was what I can afford at the time

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And I didn't know it was bottom-tier trash

#

Basically I got scammed by the shop building it for me
On several things

north crescent
#

Have you tried various BIOS versions?

devout forum
#

I've tried all of them

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All did the same thing

north crescent
#

What about using flashback instead of the BIOS updater?

devout forum
#

Already told you
It eternally blinks

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As if it's working

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And it never finishes

north crescent
#

Well only other thing I can think of, use a different USB drive

devout forum
#

I tried that too

#

Same thing

#

I think the board is just borked

north crescent
#

Asus prolly has like 2 - 3 years of warranty

devout forum
#

I'd have to go through the builder

#

Already tried to check Asus's RMA channel

elfin mural
#

yo what, texture compression that's easy to use

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devs shouldn't have an excuse anymore brrrr

devout forum
#

I mean if you cap your framerate to save power
Then the 7800X3D would make it even better cuz it ALREADY consumes less power than the 14700K in games

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This guy is a sockful of BS rofl

dusk knot
#

Hmmm

devout forum
#

Now we know he's a crock of BS

#

It's honestly almost comical

#

Dude is cherrypicking so hard he has to start lying to not lose an online argument defending Intel's POS business practices and (arguably) products with 14th "gen"

lone mango
#

And that 70% figure is probably the most it can do. Even 50% is still huge but I doubt it is 70% all the time

icy ore
devout forum
lone mango
#

Dude the real world benchmarks man

wooden marten
#

How do i fix this, every time i connect my second monitor discords sound only goes through the second monitors speakers

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no matter which output i use

devout forum
#

Why yes I do mark all my benches

wooden marten
#

i unplug the second monitor and it goes back to headphones

devout forum
# lone mango Dude the real world benchmarks man

It was funny that he defended the 14700K as "flawless product" and then ignoring the 7800X3D beats in in games because "IDC about games, power draw and framerates are irrelevant, only 3DMark scores matter!"

patent heath
#

@grand kernel Apolgies for the ping, but I need some assistance

#

Quite the ramble, but I figured I should ask this just to be safe. My primary computer that I use for games (i9-11900K, EVGA RTX 3070 TI, 32 gb DDR4 CL 18-3600, 700 W PSU) has been shutting off and on very intermittently and sporadically during the occasional time that I use games. My computer will also occasionally blue screen on the windows loading screen and my extraneous drive (Gaming SSD), will not be detected unless I specifically shut it down and turn it back on. This has been happening for the past two weeks, but it is only now that I have noticed a red flashing light located on both PCIE Power slots (On the Physical Graphics Card itself). It should be mentioned that these lights flash at random and are never still. My presumption is that this could be a power supply issue due to either low wattage or just normal PSU degradation over time, but I would like a more seasoned opinion on this as I was under the impression that 700 Watts was sufficient enough for a rig of this caliber. Any assistance is significantly appreciated!

worthy meteor
wooden marten
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its working fine now

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i just restarted it

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but speakers (istore audio)

worthy meteor
patent heath
#

Happy you mentioned that, I actually just finished OCCT

wooden marten
#

in other notes my pd radar got one chaffed

patent heath
#

Can I paste the results here?

patent heath
oblique terrace
#

What’s the best crypto wallwt

patent heath
lone mango
velvet summit
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Cow tools

somber skiff
rancid juniper
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320w

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😭

sour falcon
rancid juniper
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ikr

rancid juniper
cedar compass
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isn't 5.5ghz low ?

sinful blade
#

ᕦ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)ᕤ

sweet phoenix
#

Ghz between different gens means almost nothing

rancid juniper
#

^^^

cedar compass
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do we expect at least 10% performance gain ?

sinful blade
#

Never

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Only 9.5%

dusk knot
#

Mmmmh

young matrix
sinful blade
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I may have scored a pc by just being a helpful guy

sweet phoenix
#

W

lone mango
rancid juniper
rancid juniper
modern imp
rancid juniper
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crazy jump

idle nexus
#

holy crap

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did you see what happened at the Trump rally?

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wow

rancid juniper
#

not into politics but i guess ill check

idle nexus
rancid juniper
#

DAYUM WTF!?!?!?

uncut mulch
#

The first attempt

sour blaze
#

2nd I think

idle nexus
#

well in lighter news, I'm almost done with this 13600K system

hoary zodiac
#

doesn't this also means that he wins by default now

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because they just gave him so much more ammunition

sour falcon
#

Leave it to Pennsylvania @sinful blade

idle nexus
#

eh aside from his ear, I don't think this will hurt him but I dunno. I'm trying to avoid any political aspects of this lol

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I had to go with 3070 because the 2080ti is three slot & wouldn't fit in the vertical GPU thing

hoary zodiac
#

iirc they should be neck and neck unless the game really eats up vram

rancid juniper
#

forget vram we need vvram (a new ai assisted cloud base ram subscription model)

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Virtual Vram

idle nexus
#

now the hard part... can I stabilize 8000c36 on this computer

idle nexus
#

I feel like I always get which CPU you're on wrong lol

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heckin 5000D

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I had to dremel the stupid plastic thing in the front again to make the fans+rad fit

rancid juniper
#

yes im also using the 13600k

idle nexus
#

do you run all-core OC or by core usage?

#

& what do you run memory at again? I forget

rancid juniper
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all core oc

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3600mhz cl16 slight tuned

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oc'd from 3200mhz

idle nexus
#

oh okay DDR4 then

#

what's your all-core frequency? I wanna be realistic here lol

rancid juniper
#

5.4GHZ P-core
4.3GHZ E-core
4.8GHZ Ring

idle nexus
#

heck okay

rancid juniper
#

yessir

idle nexus
#

I wonder if I can get 1-2 cores to do 57-58x

rancid juniper
#

possibly

idle nexus
#

I'm not loving my odds off getting 8000c36 running but we'll see ig

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I don't love the GPU to memory block pipe but I'll live ig

#

I also need to get two rgb 140s out of storage for the top fans

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the 3070 cleaned up nice at least

uncut mulch
tranquil pebble
#

specifically involving the word "shot".

idle nexus
#

even if you're talking about photography? lol

tranquil pebble
#

yes the word is hard blocked

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but not if its as part of another word

idle nexus
#

ah right

tranquil pebble
#

Theyre temp blocking certain keywords to keep people from bringing up unwanted topics there

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I happened to be an unitended casualty so to speak of the word being blocked

safe cape
#
VideoCardz.com

ASUS is launching a third version of its RTX 4060 DUAL graphics card Graphics card companies rarely do two revisions for one product; these are typically reserved for cards that require board changes or when the cooling is inadequate. So changes that are simply cosmetic, especially for one product series, are not very common. Thus, […]

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v1 was good

#

why

tranquil pebble
#

RTX 4060 with 16 GB VRAM would be good

#

otherwise Nvidia can heck off

#

or at least something more than 8

idle nexus
#

8 is kinda sad

#

says the 3070

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heck

#

lol

rancid juniper
#

how many 4060s are there?

velvet summit
#

8gb PepeRealizes

#

wait

north crescent
velvet summit
#

4060s

#

that's fine ig

rancid juniper
idle nexus
rancid juniper
#

never throttled iirc

idle nexus
#

hmm I wonder if waterblock contact is bad

velvet summit
dusk knot
#

Lol what

#

They're going to die anyways

cedar compass
#

Here we go kekw

dusk knot
#

Oh boy ...

#

Let's not talk about it

cedar compass
#

Yeah but t-shirt design is already online lol that's very impressive speed kekw

dusk knot
#

Anything for a quick buck

#

It's going to sell

obsidian berry
deep parcel
#

probably took like 1-2 mins to make

rancid juniper
#

BIOSHOCK 4 early build leak

idle nexus
#

wth 7% remaining reserve storage on this MP33 1TB

#

how have I broken two NVMes in the last like 3 months wth

rancid juniper
#

bro is the nvme reckoner

velvet summit
tranquil pebble
#

tardis pockets

icy ore
unreal trail
velvet summit
# icy ore

ironically data is probably still recoverable

plush anvil
#

is there anyone on who's familiar with tv issues?

#

I'm trying to diy fix a roku tv i inherited with parts from a second identical tv, but i need someone who can translate the symptoms (changes when i switch out parts)

velvet summit
#

?ask

topaz crownBOT
dusk knot
weak cedar
plush anvil
plush anvil
weak cedar
#

Hehe

plush anvil
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I'll rephrase then; it was only whitescreening with audio when plugged in at first, then i changed the power supply board and no change, then i changed the main board and it was blackscreening with no backlight, so i switched the main board back, now i switched the tcon and it's blackscreening with backlight and audio. my main question i suppose, is: was it closer to a fix whitescreening with backlight and audio or blackscreening with backlight and audio, and what should i check next?

icy ore
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I'm using it for a ttrpg table, so i don't really need the roku os, just hdmi connectivity, but from my research into fixing it outright for that purpose i was basically just hearing that it's nigh on impossible to convert it to a simple "monitor" which floors me because dumbing down an electrical system should be simple, but they make them so you have to buy a new one every couple of years instead..