storage-devices

[torpid adder]

Aren't the 2TB barracudas of late a pretty high failure rate?

I promise I didn't mean to rhyme

[untold grove]

yes they're bad

[torpid adder]

There was a period of time after their immense popularity that people started dunking on it for its failure rate, but then it went back to being popular and untainted

[torpid adder]

Okay

And

[untold grove]

that was 3tb

i dont trust 3tb from anyone basically

i just also dont trust anything from seagate

one of my friends just had 8 ironwolfs die on them

[pallid orchid]

I use 4 barracudas in my pc

2 are from around 2010

no errors or failures

[untold grove]

congrats

i regularly talk to people who have a lot of drives

i also have a lot of drives

based on the numbers from them we use only toshiba and hgst

so id try to buy toshiba when possible for your pc

[pallid orchid]

Will keep that in mind for sure

thanks for the info

[untold grove]

np!

exos are fine btw

we have a few dozen of those and not too many have failed

toshiba still better

[pallid orchid]

p300s any good?

by toshiba

those seem to be the only toshiba drives I can buy locally

[untold grove]

x300 prob best for general use

[pallid orchid]

cant find those where I am

[untold grove]

i dont like the p300 since it maxes out at a useless size lol

so like 2tb is the best it can do

id try to get x300 imported if possible almost

its that good

[pallid orchid]

I see

[torpid adder]

I feel like the 3TB ones have been high failure rate for a lot longer than the 2TB lol

[untold grove]

3tb is just wonk in general

i dont rly trust 3tb from anyone except maybe hitachi

and even then im wary

[torpid adder]

Lol

Guess I'll avoid 3tb then

[steady talon]

3Tb is a weird number in storage

[olive wadi]

game on

[red jay]

How bad would it be to edit on an external hard drive?

Things such as videos/pictures

[sour wadi]

Quite slow, if you have a desktop just buy an internal, or shuck it

[split rain]

is there a concrete performance benefit to shucking?

i did it because i figured i wouldn't be moving the drive and having a drive somewhere it could get knocked around, disconnected, or otherwise in the way was not ideal

(that said, I have a drive doing basically bugger all while the other one isn't anywhere close to full, so i probably could have kept that one in the enclosure for its intended purpose of external backup)

[minor sun]

Benefit? Not really, external drives normally just have a normal desktop drive that gets placed in somewhat of a shock resistant casing

[untold grove]

yes

usb protocol is not good for moving lots of small files

so you will get iops benefit from sata vs usb

[minor sun]

in terms of shucking a drive instead of using normal standalone hard drive was what I was talking about

[reef pebble]

Is the sata cable the correct name for the cord for harddrives ?

[minor sun]

There's usually 2 cables, one for data, one for power for sata drives, both can be called sata cables.
This is the one for data

and this is the one for power

[reef pebble]

thanks

[steady talon]

I shucked an external hard drive I had and it was one of my better ideas lmao

Speeds on the drive increased by a lot

[sour wadi]

Tis because usb is a lot slower than sata yee

[steady talon]

And I got a dirt cheap 4Tb HDD out of it

[sour wadi]

Nice

[olive wadi]

lol

i am the pee pee poo poo man

[pallid orchid]

You good?

[olive wadi]

[pallid orchid]

Understandable have a great day

[rancid pike]

Yes.

[torpid adder]

[dense merlin]

So i took the hdd out of my mom's old laptop since she needs the files off of it and the laptop broke

But the connector is weird

Regular power connector it looks like but the info transfer cable is different, does anyone know the name of it and if I could find one to go to modern sata/anything that would plug into a modern pc?

The laptops like 11 years old

[torpid adder]

send pic

[dense merlin]

I can take another if you want, disc auto turns on flash for whatever reason

Unsure if the drive even works, its 11years old but it worked up until 2months ago when my mom dropped the pc, so its very possible it still works and she has some important files on it

I insisted that she backed it up onto a flash drive but here we are

[torpid adder]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-shocked-double-look-double-take-gif-5644090

[dense merlin]

was wonderinf if this would work https://www.amazon.com/SAIENTEE-Docking-Station-External-Enclosure/dp/B082F73H7Q/ref=sr_1_34?dchild=1&keywords=sata+1&qid=1625621959&sr=8-34

[dense merlin]

yeah oldest laptop ive ever seen

had win7 and ddr2

100gb hdd

intel T2450

[torpid adder]

must be uhh 2.5" IDE?

or somethink idk xd

[dense merlin]

https://www.amazon.com/2-5-44-Pin-Female-Converter-Cable/dp/B00BSRIF4W ?

idts the ide cable looks like it goes fullly along the connector, this uses a sata power supply and some weird sata data transfer

sata power cable*

[torpid adder]

yeah I've never seen these vertical pin drive connectors

[dense merlin]

yeha my dad said old laptops use a weird connector

so im thinking ill need a specificed connector

[torpid adder]

doesn't look like SATA or IDE

http://bixnet.net/images/NBHD-IDE-Connector.jpg

[dense merlin]

i think its an old specified sata connector

yeah def not ide

[torpid adder]

http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/drobertson1019/2011-09-17_180040_laptop-sata-hard-drive.jpg

very weird

[dense merlin]

yeah def not it

it looks like a pinned sata cable

[dense merlin]

sata cable with pins*

[torpid adder]

http://removeandreplace.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/hard-drive-chart.jpg

just like scrolling thru image results lol

http://g02.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1FSf2KpXXXXaNXFXXq6xXFXXXz/1x-New-Laptop-Notebook-Hard-Drive-Adapter-HDD-Connector-Socket-fit-for-HP-DV6000-DV9000.jpg

[dense merlin]

doesnt look like any of those

[torpid adder]

http://www.dhresource.com/albu_278648494_00-1.0x0/sata-hdd-hard-disk-drive-connector-for-acer.jpg

neither product still sold

guess you could look on ebay

[dense merlin]

it might be 3.5in ide?

https://www.cpumedics.com/western-digital-wd1600sb-160gb-7-2k-rpm-ide-3-5-hard-disk-drive-hdd/?utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cse&_vsrefdom=adwords&gclid=CjwKCAjw_o-HBhAsEiwANqYhp9f4hjX4VwxXC6yFKxYz_q8N_tmicA7ZFSn633M7THZCfrEA34BxihoCNqoQAvD_BwE the second one on the right

looks like that

wait nevermind

[torpid adder]

http://www.fpccableconnector.com/sale-11738929-22-pin-dalee-sata-cable-connector-black-colour-famle-type-for-computer-products.html

[torpid adder]

nah don't think it's that one

[dense merlin]

GOT IT

there was a plastic thing on top of the regular sata

guy on r/computers helped

[torpid adder]

cool

send link?

am curious

[dense merlin]

to reddit?

https://www.reddit.com/r/computers/comments/of94pz/to_shorten_the_story_11yr_old_laptop_finally/h4b3i23?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3

[torpid adder]

ahh

interesting

just a weird stupid adapter for adapters' sake

xd

[dense merlin]

Yeah probably so they didn't need a cable for the laptop

[torpid adder]

was it just slotted into the motherboard

idk I feel like usually the cable-less ones still just use the normal sata connection, but the adapter looks like it would make it easier to avoid bending the sata connector

[dense merlin]

One sec I'll send a picture after I get this worked

[torpid adder]

oke

[dense merlin]

Oh that's unfortunate

My second sata port is covered by a cable

And the cable management is very tight

Think i managed to get it in

I'm worried the pc is taking forever to boot

[torpid adder]

might just be sniffing the drive to make sure it knows what it is

[dense merlin]

That was where it was plugged into

Or slotted into really

Not exactly plugged in

[torpid adder]

ah

yeah direct board connection

my grandma's hp has little mesh sleeved drive cables

[dense merlin]

Once I get the files off this thing it is getting the heck outta this pc

Not leaving that old of a drive in here. That's just waiting for an issue to happen

[torpid adder]

lol

[dense merlin]

Ticking time bomb thats the phrase

[upper quiver]

increasing ssd capacity via software :bean:

makes me think of downloading more ram lol

cant even believe this is an option tho... imma test it in cdm

[minor sun]

yes

[upper quiver]

:P

didnt do too much lol

[dense merlin]

Update: I had to take it out bc I had to use my pc, I'm a dumb*** and destroyed the sata connector

[torpid adder]

Lmao

SATA cable with a metal catcher?

[dense merlin]

LOVELY

Now my windows corrupted

funnily enough the second time thats happened in the last two weeks

[untold grove]

0 wear leveling time to vibe

[dense merlin]

is this decent? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07B4G19X3/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A25SITGFW0OQJA&psc=1

its cheap af so im guessing no

[pseudo urchin]

Just get a MP33 for $10 more

Or SN550

NVME is speeeeeed

[sour wadi]

Crucial mx500 is the same price, but if you have motherboard space/a few extra dollars mp33 or sn550 if it comes back in stock for 105 again, if not pilot d

[pseudo urchin]

Nah MX500 is the same price as SN550 rn

SN550 is like 10x better too

[regal kraken]

I am looking at a hard drive upgrade. Current drive is the Samsung 970 EVO 1TB PCIe 3.0. I am looking at either the Samsung 980 Pro, WD Black SN850, or the Seagate FireCuda 520. Which one is best for PCIe 4.0 performance?

[minor sun]

What will you be using it for?

PCIe 4.0 is pretty much useless for most people

unless you have a very specific need, then we will need to see if you just need sustained perf or just really high burst seq for some reason, or efficiency, or you just need rnd perf

[regal kraken]

Mainly aiming for faster game loading and installation times

[minor sun]

A new drive is not going to help much if any tbh, game loading doesn't get much faster with a drive upgrade, and installation times often depend much more on your download speeds, and a 970 evo is already a fairly fast drive in general.

grabbing some random loading time testing for example

[mild sluice]

You won’t notice any loading time differences between a 970 evo and a 980. Personally have used both and if there is a difference it’s milliseconds

[sour wadi]

Ohh nvm it was 90$ for a bit, only reason i said that was because they sent a 2.5" ssd and the sn550 is out of stock at the price of 105$

[outer sparrow]

Hi, I currently have had a storage card that wasn’t the best so I bought a new 1 and was wondering how I can totally change my storage and everything including windows from that bar drive to the new 1 and just get rid of the old 1

[pseudo urchin]

Yeah but it’s in stock for $110

[sour wadi]

Ahh it was only in stock for 125 or something the other day

[sour wadi]

Marcium reflect

[maiden crater]

Good drive speed testing utility?

Preferably free but if it’s a few bucks that’s fine. Looking to compare read/write of my old drive vs new one

[sour wadi]

Crystal disk mark

It's free

[maiden crater]

Bingo, thanks

[sour wadi]

Np :)

[untold grove]

fio on linux, crystaldiskmark on windows

get the anime edition, it's better

[lapis plank]

hello, can someone pls explain to me

on the hdd why is there a plug with 4 prongs inside

next to the sata?

[torpid adder]

Molex power

I believe if your power supply doesn't have SATA power cables (dinosaur) you use the molex power INSTEAD

[lapis plank]

i see

thanks

[torpid adder]

Yw

[young geyser]

would bad sustained sequential performance be caused by the cache or nand?

[minor sun]

Everything

Depends on the drive, it may have enough cache that'll be able to keep sustaining itself, and therefore sustained perf is still the perf of the slc cache or whatever it uses

If it runs out of cache, sustained perf will be down the the native nand

[young geyser]

ohhh i see

so if the cache fills then it writes directly to nand right?

[minor sun]

Usually

And the controller can affect performance and how it allocated cache and such

[pseudo urchin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jZNp99/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd1000chtz Does anyone know about this drive? It seems really good for the price and fast asf

[untold grove]

oh my god u just awakened memories in me

do not buy that @pseudo urchin

[sour wadi]

1000rpm stoopidd

[pseudo urchin]

10,000 RPM go brrrr

Higher RPM means faster drive right

[untold grove]

yes

[half flint]

Says 10,000 kek

[untold grove]

i had some 14000rpm spinnies

https://tenor.com/view/bluey-spin-cute-adorable-gif-14897331

[sour wadi]

What i meant, shup

[half flint]

Have you seen the vid of that person who got an HDD to 21,000rpm?

[untold grove]

sounds scary

[half flint]

They overclocked it lol

Ye

[untold grove]

before ssds were mainstream

or

cheap mainstream

[kind sierra]

yall remember SSHDs?

[pseudo urchin]

I wasn't but what makes it bad

[untold grove]

enterprise used 2.5inch sas hdds for quicker bulk storage

[sour wadi]

A tiny bit ye

[untold grove]

they're around as reliable as a barracuda kek

[kind sierra]

Less

[untold grove]

seagate levels of drive fail

[pseudo urchin]

Barracuda is good though right?

[half flint]

https://youtu.be/z_sK-R3ZgRw

[untold grove]

kek no

[kind sierra]

barracuda is usable for consumer

[half flint]

22,000 actually lol

[pseudo urchin]

I have a 2TB drive and it works fine so idk

[untold grove]

barracuda is unusable for anyone who even remotely cares about their data

[kind sierra]

Just read the specs and make sure you don't get an SMR

[untold grove]

all barracuda is smr above 2tb iirc

[half flint]

What about at 2tb?

[untold grove]

i think 2tb is cmr but dont quote on that

[kind sierra]

I think there's a 4TB non-smr now, not sure though

[pseudo urchin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008 Are you talking about this one?

That's the one I have

[untold grove]

theres barracuda and barracuda pro

[half flint]

I have that one aswell

[kind sierra]

That one should be CMR

[half flint]

Good

[untold grove]

i think pro cmr and normal smr

[half flint]

Bob disagrees

[kind sierra]

It's good enough for game storage

[half flint]

So who is wrong

[untold grove]

bob

[half flint]

I bet Lili is wrong again

[kind sierra]

It's not for backups

[pseudo urchin]

Which is what I mainly use it for

[untold grove]

i have been wrong on here like

twice

both were weird linux software things

i would not trust seagate anything unless you're fine with redownloading everything in a year or 2 when the drive dies

[half flint]

I trust bob

[untold grove]

but drives fail on bathtub curve so if it doesnt die by then

youll be ok

[kind sierra]

I think MTBF on those is more like 4-5 years with constant use

[untold grove]

for a while

[untold grove]

that

that's what theyre rated for

sorry hit enter to quick

[kind sierra]

' and enter are next to each other

[untold grove]

i had some barracuda die after like 6 months

yeah and i switch laptops multiple times a day and keyboard spacing is like

just different enough

is hell

[kind sierra]

They definitely aren't enterprise drives

[untold grove]

i think bob and i can both agree to never store anything critical on a single spinning disk

no matterwho makes it

but your chances are best with non seagate stuff

except for WD 18tb golds dont buy those

i am not allowed to elaborate on that statement but do not buy them

[half flint]

Lili is right

[kind sierra]

Don't store anything critical on a single anything, except maybe a single tape

[half flint]

It's smr

[untold grove]

as always

[half flint]

*%50

[untold grove]

im fine storing on good ssds

worst case they go read only

[kind sierra]

Too sensitive to discharge

[untold grove]

but then again i never store anything on non arrays

[half flint]

😏

[untold grove]

99.99% of my content can get nuked without me minding too much

like yeah if my DC gets bombed ill lose some stuff

[half flint]

Bob this is a pg13 server

Smh

[untold grove]

i dont really practice geographic redundancy

for personal

[kind sierra]

Hamming code tapes ftw

[untold grove]

i have a few horcruxes of important data tho

mostly as gimmick but i think its super neat

[kind sierra]

Alternatively have it in the arctic code vault

[untold grove]

kek

i just put it in one of our DC if i want it to be safe

200ft underground

[untold grove]

true but i cant put a lot of my files into arctic vault

[untold grove]

i saw the censor fail

[kind sierra]

Is fixed now

[untold grove]

i know someone who had like

their dumb meme code

forever immortalized

[kind sierra]

Oh, trust me, I've got some dumb code in there

[untold grove]

lmao

horcruxes cooler tho

[kind sierra]

This is in the vault

[untold grove]

chicken

[kind sierra]

Indeed

[untold grove]

id say 80%

80% of the time im right 100% of the time

[half flint]

🧢

[untold grove]

reminds me of my old uptime guarantee

[kind sierra]

Decent uptime

[untold grove]

it's amazing for metal smh

vps was 5 mines

nines

[maiden crater]

I can’t for the life of me figure out where to click in Crystal Disk Mark to run a read/write test on a drive

[sour wadi]

It's pretty obvs afaik, make sure you're not in crystal disk info instead

[maiden crater]

I’ll check again this evening I suppose

[rocky viper]

I need a solid HDD for less than 100usd. (Storage device for clips and pictures) any recommendations?

[sour wadi]

Toshiba x300 4tb is like 100ish iirc

Or wd blue 2tb 128mb cache for a smaller drive

[untold grove]

x300 is cute

[pseudo urchin]

I heard it's extremely noisy

[sour wadi]

Well hdds in general aren't exactly quiet, but it's a great drive soo bitta noise wont hurt

[pseudo urchin]

What do they even sound like

[torpid adder]

Like a hard drive

[sour wadi]

Lol

Hdds are probs not audible over a few fans

[pseudo urchin]

My case fans are sooo forking loud

[torpid adder]

There's two distinct noises that hard drives make, the platter spinning and the articulated read write head flickering back and forth

Some hard drives have louder clattering, some have louder spinning

[sour wadi]

If you're concerned about noise I'm sure going for a 5400rpm drive like wd blue would be better then or just pay for ssd kek

[torpid adder]

Honestly just having your boot drive not be a hard drive is enough for me

Drastically reduces disk usage on the platter drives not having to do core operating tasks

Might still spin up and clatter at idle because windows

But not really when you're using the computer

Until you use something on the drive ofc

[sour wadi]

Yeah, if you want pure silence just run cpu at 1ghz

[torpid adder]

😳

I need to get another SSD

Booting off an HGST disk

[sour wadi]

Hgst?

[torpid adder]

WD Enterprise drive

[minor sun]

hgst is great

hitachi

acquired by wd tho

[torpid adder]

Mounting it in my case with the grommets reduced the noise a lot but it's still running all the time booting off of it

[sour wadi]

Ohhh i schee

[regal kraken]

Egads. My 1TB Samsung 970 EVO is almost full. Oh, well. It is a good excuse to save up for a 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe. Any recommendations?

[sour wadi]

I would just go pilot e 2tb

Gen 4 is a bit meh so far

Also diminishing returns

Especially for not boot drive

[regal kraken]

This would be a boot drive, partitioned for both boot and data

[sour wadi]

Why would you move your boot from your 970 evo?

[regal kraken]

970 EVO is almost full. It is 1TB

[sour wadi]

Yeah but why would you move os

[regal kraken]

What do you mean? I've always had a single drive for everything

[sour wadi]

@regal kraken you said your new drive would be for boot so you would have to move the os over

[regal kraken]

Yeah. New drive would be all in one, boot and data, the way I've always done it. But it would need to be a larger drive

[sour wadi]

Get a 2tb pilot e imo

I would say p31 but no 2tb

@regal kraken why would you get rid of the 970 tho? Just put in other m.2 slot

[regal kraken]

Realistically, if I do a multiple-drive setup, I'll use the old 500GB Samsung 970 EVO I have sitting around as the boot drive and just get a large-capacity 2.5" SSD for the data

[untold grove]

not necessarily

hgst made consumer drives too

but nowadays wd uses them for their enterprise brands

[torpid adder]

Pretty sure the one I have is enterprise

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[untold grove]

[torpid adder]

https://tenor.com/view/droldas-gif-18643709

[sour wadi]

Then why did you ask for a gen 4 lol

[untold grove]

2.5 basically never worth

unless ur using thiccy capacity

i asked work to quote me on a 260tb storage server

[torpid adder]

Gaming

[dense merlin]

If I end up needing more space soon I'll probably end up with a 4tb hdd

My mobo only has two Satas and one extra spot for an nvme

Currently using one sata and an external 2tb

[untold grove]

nvme expansion time

[torpid adder]

What board only has two SATA ports

[half flint]

my mom works at a smaller company and they have a 1tb hdd as their whole server, and as their company has expanded slowly and more ppl have joined, its getting slower and slower as multiple ppl trying to pull data off that one hdd simotaneously is kinda not too fast... Theyre thinking of upgrading so what would you personally suggest? they dont need like 16tb of storage anytime soon, so i was thinking a commercial grade ssd...

[untold grove]

oh god

[half flint]

yeah

30 employees total and 1tb hdd kek

[untold grove]

to hire me as a contractor before they lose everything

[half flint]

yeah ik

[untold grove]

it's a matter of when

[half flint]

most stuff i think they have backups on but some is solely on hdd

[dense merlin]

idk i dont feel like spending that much on a good sized ssd

[dense merlin]

asrock b550m/ac

[dense merlin]

and im going to be replacing this mobo in like 3 years for ryzen 7000 series, bc ddr5

[torpid adder]

Sn550

[untold grove]

was mostly meme tbh

get an x300 and ur set

not everything needs to be on ssd anyways

[tardy bronze]

I’m looking for an external SSD that will be able to connect to a laptop via USB

[torpid adder]

https://www.newegg.com/startech-usb3s2sat3cb-usb-to-sata/p/N82E16812400542

[tardy bronze]

Ty

Ok next question

[untold grove]

https://www.crucial.com/ssd/x8/CT1000X8SSD9

[tardy bronze]

Ty

[shrewd fable]

Hi anyone familiar with old server hard drives?

[minor sun]

Well, what about them?

[shrewd fable]

I got a hdd, I think its a 68 pin SCSI.

I want to plug into my computer but I can't find the right combination of adapters/docks to that.

Actually, what I need to do is clone another matching drive, doesn't have to go through my computer.

[torpid adder]

Oop

Try replacing .com with dot com

[shrewd fable]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Connector_Attachment#/media/File:SCSIHardDriveConnectors.jpg

[torpid adder]

Won't have to do that if you keep talking on here, mee6 bot levels you up and gives you link permission

https://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Connector_Attachment#/media/File:SCSIHardDriveConnectors.jpg

Wow I'm genius

[shrewd fable]

🙂

[torpid adder]

[shrewd fable]

Anyways, I have an hdd like the bottom one is this photo and I am at a loss on how to clone it to an identical blank.

[grim minnow]

youll need an application such like acronis to clone drives

[shrewd fable]

I have software but my rig is newer and uses SATA.

[grim minnow]

youll have to find a old hardware to connect it

[shrewd fable]

Ugh thats OOOOLLLLD

[grim minnow]

also imagine cloning those old ass hdd, holy, it will probably take hours to clone it

[shrewd fable]

Also, the drive is not coming out of a computer... not sure if I can even read it if I did get it hooked to a computer.

[grim minnow]

the rpm was super super slow

[torpid adder]

There might be some form of adapter out there on the market

[shrewd fable]

It's coming out of an old ultrasound machine.

[grim minnow]

oh shoot

[torpid adder]

Cable to adapt it to USB or something

[grim minnow]

^^

[shrewd fable]

Yeah, it has its own OS.

[grim minnow]

amazon may have some

or ebay

check there

[shrewd fable]

So that's why I'm here... I've been on ebay and talking with NewEgg... I'm not even sure what I'm looking for. On one level I think I need "68 Pin SCSI to SATA adapter." But I swear, it doesn't exist.

[sharp folio]

Anyone know how you access files on a drive that has a Windows install after you installed it on a new drive and still have both drives?

Trying to move some files over

When I click view properties it shows the user folder has nothing on it, and when I try to get into it it just loads to a certain amount and then gets stuck

[torpid adder]

usually just by plugging it in and looking thru the folders

hmm

[sharp folio]

Ah, nvm

I was able to do it by changing to owner to the account on the new drive

This might take a bit...

[torpid adder]

ah

[untold grove]

whatchu need

[torpid adder]

needs an adapter to plug into a newer pc

[untold grove]

scsi im guessing

i didnt read

[torpid adder]

single connector

https://tenor.com/view/yep-yes-yeah-yas-nods-gif-4361784

[untold grove]

god i hate scsi

@shrewd fable are u sure it isnt ide

drive pics help

[torpid adder]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-pics-brb-gif-9379059

[untold grove]

[shrewd fable]

I tried to post pics but I'm too new. I linked one with the Wikipedia article.

[minor sun]

You should be able to send it in #build-pics still

[shut furnace]

someone find me nice hdd with at least more than 1tb storage not too expensive. just needs something for games, audio samples and project files. i too lazy to look

[sour wadi]

Wd blue 2tb 128mb cache version, or for 4tb toshiba x300

[shut furnace]

why the 128mb version specifically? also is there link I can't find for some reason lol

[sour wadi]

128mb version has cmr

@shut furnace sorry meant the 64mb version https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bskwrH/western-digital-internal-hard-drive-wd20ezrz

[shut furnace]

ah ok ty

sad i hate when websites protect themself https://i.imgur.com/cuoehe2.png

[sour wadi]

That's wack, it's fine for me

Np :)

[untold grove]

i get that all the time cause they blacklisted lililabs ip range kek

pcpp always makes me captcha

[shut furnace]

they made me captcha once but now nothing at all lol, gives me flashback to when google was asking me for captcha

i just going to try later, for whatever reason i can't seem to find the 64mb version on amazon, newegg, bb, etc

[minor sun]

You can get it straight from WD

[untold grove]

^^^

[minor sun]

Perhaps you are botnet now

[shut furnace]

is the 3tb 64mb version the same internals or no, price difference is very little

[untold grove]

buying 4tb drives is teeny brain

3tb*

[shut furnace]

Lol

But odd numbers are fun

[cold smelt]

I was wondering if this was a good deal and a reputable seller for this Samsung SSD 870 EVO 1 TB

https://bolepishop.com/?product=samsung-ssd-860-evo-1tb-2-5-inch-sata-iii-internal-ssd-mz-76e1t0b-am&sfdr_ptcid=42018_4_673074418&sfdr_hash=9841d58ebad3e95d2a6bc580ff9eb118

Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM)
$72.49

sorry EVO 860 not 870 model version....

[shut furnace]

i already ordered from wd but is this just the same https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/974142-REG should i get here instead because i can get free 1-2 day shipping

number don't seem to match oh well

[shut furnace]

Wow rude

But I’m not going into this now and you cant talk if youve never actually been in the store

As i said we are not doing this now

[sour wadi]

It looks the same

[spiral kelp]

need to find an external enclosure for a M.2 SSD drive - in this case a Samsung EVO NVME MZ-V7E500

Would this work? https://www.newegg.com/p/35G-00DP-00004?Item=9SIA2BPAWC1360&Description=external enclosure for M.2 SSD&cm_re=external_enclosure for M.2 SSD-_-9SIA2BPAWC1360-_-Product&cm_sp=SP-_-111654-_-0-_-6-_-9SIA2BPAWC1360-_-external enclosure for M.2 SSD-_-enclosure

[sour wadi]

Should do

[regal kraken]

Is the Western Digital Black P10 any good?

[blazing musk]

Yes but expensive

[regal kraken]

I can get 5TB for around $150. Is that reasonable?

[blazing musk]

Not bad yeah. It's a good external drive for sure.

$125 https://www.amazon.com/WD_Black-Drive-External-Compatible-WDBA2W0020BBK-WESN/dp/B07VNTFHD5?th=1

[regal kraken]

If Micro Center has one in stock, I will get it from there. Otherwise, I'll buy one from Newegg

[regal kraken]

@blazing musk how well would it work as a Steam Library drive?

[blazing musk]

It's still a HDD so random I/O performance will be lacking. Load times will only be about what you'd expect from an internal HDD. If you want better load times out of it you want something like the P50 or another external SSD.

[regal kraken]

I can put up with slower loading times. It is having enough room for the games that I am more concerned with. 618GB for my Steam stuff, 101GB for the stuff I have through WINE, and another 78GB for my Dropbox folder.

[dense merlin]

Rookie numbers

I have 300gb in bo3 alone

[regal kraken]

618GB between ARK Survival Evolved, Deus Ex Mankind Divided, Tropico 6, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor, Dungeons and Dragons Neverwinter, and X Rebirth.

[maiden crater]

Reasonably priced 2TB+ m.2? Quality and performance over price though

[sour wadi]

Pilot e 2tb

[maiden crater]

Not familiar with Mushkin. They legit?

[sour wadi]

Yep it's a v nice drive

[dense merlin]

I've got like 200gb in gmod, 300 in bo3, easily 100 in rando games, however much destiny 2 is, and prolly more but I'm not at my house atm so I can't check

[olive wadi]

brand doesn't matter for ssds so yes

[maiden crater]

Explain please

[olive wadi]

brand does not matter

🤯

mushroom pilot-e is base lol

[minor sun]

it's more about nand and controller

[olive wadi]

who is nand and controller

[regal kraken]

facepalms

Hey. Someone screenshot this.

[olive wadi]

understand again?

[minor sun]

they're not and

[olive wadi]

yall'n'sn't flash?

[minor sun]

affirmative

[olive wadi]

i am the pee pee pee pee poo poo man

[steady talon]

Rookie numbers 5Tb used for all my games, 16-17 Tb used for work files

[dense merlin]

Jesus, I'm close to 3tb for everything but I don't have work files lol

[olive wadi]

ok lol

[regal kraken]

I got the 4TB Western Digital Black P10. Moving my Steam library as per the instructions didn't go as planned, so in the morning I plan to reinstall everything.

[jovial cypress]

looking for a nvme, sabrent2tb or wd 7502tb or samsung 970 evo plus 2tb or just get a 980 pro 1tb?

using a ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 PCIe 4.0 X4 Expansion Card Supports 4 NVMe M.2

[sour wadi]

If you're getting a 1tb sk hynix p31, if you're going 2tb pilot imo, although that could change depending on what your use case is

[jovial cypress]

mainly gaming

but it also depends on the compatibility on the expansion card

as far it said gen3 and 4 are supported.

[sour wadi]

Both of those drives are gen 3, gen 4 is a bit useless atm, might be better in the future but good drives like p31 will beat gen 4 drives

[sour wadi]

Yeah then sk hynix p31 for 1tb, pilot e for 2tb

[jovial cypress]

how good is the pilot e?

if your going to decide on which to get sk or pilot?

[sour wadi]

V nice drive

[sour wadi]

Well sk if 1tb, pilot e if 2tb, sk is a better drive but not available in 2tb format

[jovial cypress]

have you used both of these nvmes?

[sour wadi]

No but they are still very good drives, the p31 is too high end for me, idrc bout my storage as long as it's ssd, pilot e isn't available for a good price in eu soo

[jovial cypress]

right, guess il get the p31 first

[regal kraken]

@sour wadi I decided to go with the P10 first. I also adjusted my plans slightly. Next "upgrade" after this won't be the case, but instead a bigger desk.

[sour wadi]

Okay 👍

[regal kraken]

Once I get the 5000D Airflow, then I plan to run all my stuff on internal drives, but with the data split into separate drives.

[indigo arch]

What's classed as good price per TB at the moment? Preferably in pound sterling if possible

[sour wadi]

For ssd, sn550 500gb but especially 1tb, for hdd you should be able to find a wd blue 2tb hdd for 45-50£

[indigo arch]

I'm looking at external drives specifically for shucking. Like a wd elements drive. 16TB kind of thing

[sour wadi]

Ahh right wasn't too sure, I'd filter and see what the selection is like on https://uk.pcpartpicker.com

[indigo arch]

I know specifically what I'm looking for. I just didn't know what the price per TB was these days because it's a little all over the place

[sour wadi]

Ahh well usually the value per tb will hit imo 4tb per drive and then decrease back off but i don't look at 16tb drives so mb they are better value still

[indigo arch]

I feel like we aren't understanding each other very well.
I remember about a year ago or something the best value for external drives was something like £14-£16 per 1TB. I know that isn't the case now because of recent market changes but was wondering what the average is right now for if something was a "good deal"

[sour wadi]

I see https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#sort=ppgb&page=1 should be able to tell you, sort by price/gb ascending

[sterile vault]

Hey all,

Looking to replace this Adaptec PITA card from my supermicro 6026 chassis. I need an HBA for my storage server, and I'm coming up with a lot of differing opinions. It seems like the Broadcom 9400 series is the way to go. I am looking for maximum read/write for 12 drives.
Adaptec is currently a bottleneck for IO and keeps crashing my server when I overload it with large file transfers (Pretty much anything >5GB)

Any confirmations or other suggestions?

EDIT: Would it be better to run more than one card for 12 drives? Should I utilize the Supermicro SAS Controller? I would still need to use more slots but that might be a good balance of IO

[regal kraken]

@sour wadi finally got my Steam games installed on the P10. Over 680GB across 12 games. Better than 680GB across 7 games like before. Loading times aren't really all that different once the games have gone through their first-run updates and all.

[sour wadi]

Nice

[minor sun]

@indigo arch not sure if it's the same for UK, but for the US, it's more like 17$/TB is good, and 15$/TB is ideal, although all the drive prices are wacky...
For the US, there's this tool: https://shucks.top/

[indigo arch]

I have seen a deal for a 16TB external drive which works out to be around £17 per TB which seemed like it was good in this current state of market

[blazing musk]

Drive prices have all gone up since chia became a thing

[minor sun]

Yea

[indigo arch]

Yeahhhh so i heard

[ocean stirrup]

how do I change the default for what my games install to because I don’t want them on my m.2

[sour wadi]

It's a setting in the game launcher, game destination or something

[minor sun]

It's a setting for each individual launcher or place you install from

[ocean stirrup]

I tried creating a new library folder or whatever on steam for my hard drive but it says it can’t use it

[minor sun]

For steam?

[ocean stirrup]

yeah

[minor sun]

What does it say exactly?

The hard drive is formatted and already right?

[ocean stirrup]

New Steam library folder can’t be the drive root

[minor sun]

Oh you just have to make a new folder for the steam library folder

[ocean stirrup]

yeah but it’s not letting me idk how

[minor sun]

say you're in your d drive in file manager, right click, new folder

[ocean stirrup]

that’s it?

[sour wadi]

Then you should be able to go back into steam yeah

[ocean stirrup]

oh wow

genius ty

[red jay]

I just got a 2TB Seagate Barracuda HDD and want to use that instead of my old slow ass HDD, what's my best method of transferring everything over so the old one becomes overflow (if necessary) and the new is what everything is run into off?

[regal kraken]

One slow drive to another. That's like trading a Geo Metro for a Smart ForTwo

[red jay]

The old drive is a 500GB from a like 2013 iBuyPower prebuilt, I think I got an upgrade

[regal kraken]

5400rpm or 7200rpm?

[red jay]

I can't remember it's an old WD Blue

[red jay]

5400 was the old one

[regal kraken]

Blues of old were WD's "eco" drives. 5400rpms so they used less power, and so were slower, but generally had a longer MTBF due to being originally marketed as server or workstation drives. The Barracudas were a bit faster due to being 7200rpms in most cases and were generally considered mainstream desktop PC general purpose hard drives. Then you had "high performance" drives like the 10,000rpm WD Raptors which I swear sometimes seemed like they were shaking themselves to death.

Reminds me of the times of washing machine sized hard drives that were only 50 megabytes and if spun up to full speed would literally rattle themselves to pieces

[olive wadi]

pilot-E is worse than the p31 gold

silicon power a80 is like 102 in the states rn

[minor sun]

@olive wadi btw, know anything about p34a80 changing controller from e12?

[olive wadi]

its sm2262 and some weird chinese nand now

still mid end probably lol

[minor sun]

Hm

[olive wadi]

might still be bics3 idfk lol

[minor sun]

Btw keep in mind there's the kinda poopy p32a80

That's also called a80

But p34a80 is p34a80

[olive wadi]

lol i didnt even know that kek

i

[minor sun]

:)

[dense merlin]

Ah, yes

[blazing musk]

Yeah
100% real, it says right there. Don't you have any faith in these sellers any more? smh

[pallid orchid]

bruh this man straight up didnt even try to match the tilt of "2TB" with the rest of the text lmao

laziest scammer ever

[blazing musk]

Lol
2TB
1TB
1TB
512
GB

[pallid orchid]

LMFAO YEP

[sour wadi]

I don't even have faith in pnys geforce cards XD let alone 2Tb*4pcs 100mb/s just pay shipping

[fathom jewel]

10+ ppl bougth LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[static mortar]

Could someone recommend an enclosure for a 3.5 HDD with an eSATA port?

[torpid adder]

you guys have faith in PNY in some capacity?

[sour wadi]

I've heard they do decent quadro cards but i dont lol

[torpid adder]

I might get a refurb 250GB WD Blue 3D

would be nice to have flash storage in this thing

then when I can, use the one I have at home

[chilly echo]

Samsung 8tb ssd or get a 2tb m.2
Or should I just get both?

[minor sun]

for what

[indigo arch]

Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB m.2 at £259.55
Sound like a good deal?

[sour wadi]

It's not great, you can get sn550 for 179 or pilot e for 206 https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/vkLwrH/mushkin-pilot-e-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdpe2tb-d8 https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zNK2FT/western-digital-blue-sn550-2-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-wds200t2b0c

[indigo arch]

Seems like it's the lowest price it's ever been on amazon by the looks of it

[sour wadi]

Yeah but Samsung drives aren't good value anyway

[indigo arch]

Always thought they were classed as being one of the best tbh

[sour wadi]

They make good drives just not good value

[indigo arch]

Fair enough. I have 2 at the moment. I wanna swap one of them out for a bigger but not a priority. Wanting to get a couple 4tb of the Samsung SSDs when the price is right

[blazing musk]

Unless you get the best, most expensive Samsung drive for a hell of a bargain other brands offer the same or better now for cheaper

[arctic turret]

just wondering, but even if an ODD is not in use, will it still make noise while the pc is running?

i noticed more noise from an hdd than a cd/dvd odd i have

but i wasn't sure

[blazing musk]

It can still make noise, yes. If something triggers it (like when you open file explorer and it checks if there's a disk) it'll start the motor and move the read lens

[arctic turret]

but it's not frequent if you leave it alone, right?

[blazing musk]

Depends on what's trying to access it, but yeah it's usually idle

[arctic turret]

i thought so, that's a relief

my case has three panels on the front that can be removed, but i wonder if i can make use of those slots for something else besides an odd...

[blazing musk]

Yeah, they make 5.25" bay converters. I've seen some that change it into some combination of 2.5" and 3.5" trays.

[arctic turret]

so i can put my drives there to make them easier to replace when necessary?

[blazing musk]

Yep, something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-5-25-Inch-3-5-Inch-Converter-SDP10B/dp/B00CKJYJQ0
Or you can add more front panel ports with something like this: https://www.newegg.com/p/36F-00C9-005G5

[verbal snow]

So i just managed to snag a z590 open box that works perfectly but i have a new 1tb NVMe m.2 ssd from Sk Hynix and an Intel Optane Memory 16gb stick and i dont know which stick to place in first m.2 slot

[shut furnace]

does anyone have any recommendations for a sata controller, need for hdd for use in vm

[somber hollow]

What does this mean?
1TB M.2 NVMe™ PCIe® 3.0 x4 SSD x 2
do i get 1TB only, and what is the last "x2" for?

im kinda really confused

[upper quiver]

it means theres 2 of em

2x 1TB SSD

the rest is technical mumbo jumbo

so in laymans terms its 2x 1TB "really stupid fast" SSD

[dense merlin]

Question

Why does my external hdd download almost as fast as my internal ssd

Pny cs900

[verbal snow]

Whats the external HDD?

[dense merlin]

random segate 2tm

wow i type well

seagate 2tb

i can get the exact link if you want me to, itll take a min tho

[verbal snow]

Seagate 2tb portable hdd?

[dense merlin]

yeah

[verbal snow]

I have one but iirc the CS900 is an entry level ssd tho

[dense merlin]

yeah it came in a pre built

one of the only things left from it

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MY4KWFP/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[verbal snow]

What port are you using for your External hdd

[dense merlin]

im guessing you dont just mean usb?

its one of the front ports

[verbal snow]

Well is the usb a 3.0 or 2.0

[dense merlin]

i have no clue

[verbal snow]

Blue or black usb port?

[dense merlin]

its the regular ports in the coolermaster n400

blue

[verbal snow]

There you go because 3.0 allow faster transfer speeds that the external hdd would reccomended and was manufactured for and since the ssd is an entry level budget drive they will perform similarly

But you do want to look at the sequential speeds of both drives and that will inform you of their performance

[dense merlin]

Thanks

[verbal snow]

Are you looking to upgrade your ssd?

[dense merlin]

not currently

ive alreday spent way too much on this pc

[pallid orchid]

sequential is useless

[dense merlin]

over 1800 for a 3060 ti pc

[pallid orchid]

means nothing

[dense merlin]

bc skytech screwed me over

i am getting a 4tb internal hdd from a trade soon tho

[verbal snow]

Well i see it as a starting point tho

[dense merlin]

2x8gb 3600mhz cl18 ripjaws ram for it

[pallid orchid]

You arent gonna be copying large files that get written in a single line pretty much ever

[verbal snow]

No?

[pallid orchid]

Random perf much better comparison

since it actually makes a difference

[pallid orchid]

no.

[verbal snow]

Oh because it matches real world use and expected results?

[pallid orchid]

Yes

basically files never really get stored all together on a disk

so when ur using the pc, it needs to access multiple parts of a drive to load up a single program

[verbal snow]

now i kinda feel like i to go back to taking lessons again lol thanks for correcting me tho

[pallid orchid]

Yep np. Pc stuff is hard but you will get great with it.

[verbal snow]

Well i am decent at builds but still learning

[pallid orchid]

Litta technical aspects to pcs that arent just build and learn

[dense merlin]

better than i can do

when i was changing the mobo in my pc and the case was incompatible after i got a new case and tookt he pc apart i realized i had no clue how to cable manage

ended up having to have a pc shop build it for me

[verbal snow]

Yeah i gotta cable manage from a non mod to a full mod psu and thats gonna be fun cause i stress too much even when labeling each cable

[toxic quiver]

Is there’s a USB powered HUB that I can plug 4x 4TB external unpowered Seagate HDDs into one USB port?

[torpid adder]

I mean

There's powered hubs yes

Just search for powered hubs

[dense merlin]

I got a USB thing a while back with 6 ports on it for 15$ on amazon

[dawn ginkgo]

I have an old Dell Optiplex 780 MT, That I need to keep going for a custom application. I need to find disk drives that will still work in it. I think the ones I tried failed because of advanced format issues. Do you know of any that are ready to go, and will work with this system?

[torpid adder]

looks like it has two sata ports available so

about any sata powered drive

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-500gb/p/N82E16820250087?Description=wd blue&cm_re=wd_blue-_-20-250-087-_-Product

https://www.newegg.com/blue-wd20ezaz-2tb/p/N82E16822234372?Description=wd blue&cm_re=wd_blue-_-22-234-372-_-Product

those two are what I'd go with

@dawn ginkgo

[dawn ginkgo]

You think those will work with no special tricks? This is a ten year old machine running XP.

[torpid adder]

older hard drives sometimes had these little jumpers you'd have to fiddle with I guess, I've never seemed to have to deal with that, these should be fine

although XP might not have the intelligence to understand SSD trimming and maintenance

[dawn ginkgo]

I'm mainly worried about the sector size issue, that comes with Advanced Format

[torpid adder]

sector size issue?

[dawn ginkgo]

The Newer AF drives could not be detected by the bios. Unsure if I was really unlucky, or I need to find old drives that don't convert sector size. I read a lot about hese issues last week, but no great answers.

[torpid adder]

maybe you could use compact flash cards

people seem to be able to use them on computers from the 90s

[eternal crystal]

I am gonna buy a new SSD to add for more storage

[torpid adder]

nice

[olive wadi]

ok

[torpid adder]

cool

[red jay]

Guys some storages have "cache" and some don't what is the difference, for example Samsung 970 Evo Plus has 512 mb cache and other storages don't

[minor sun]

It's more like 90% of SSDs have a slc cache and they just don't bother to list it

[red jay]

nice, so i'll pick cheaper storages

[torpid adder]

sn550

[sour wadi]

@red jay sn550 is a great choice for cheaper or mp34 sometimes but usually it's more

[rough galleon]

the storage is done

[torpid adder]

Wowie

[gentle spire]

i got a question so would i be able to transfer my ssd's with all my stuff on it onto my new pc when it gets here?

[olive wadi]

yes

[gentle spire]

would i have to do anything special

or just simply take out the ssd and put it in the new pc

[red jay]

best budget 500gb - 1tb nvme

?

[minor sun]

what price do you call budget

mostly sn550

but if your budget doesn't allow for sn550, mp33/helix L works

[red jay]

whats the difference between helix l and lt

500gb but ones cheaper

also what makes the sn550 better than the other 2

faster read and right speeds?

[minor sun]

faster random read/write

[red jay]

.

[red jay]

ight

[red jay]

I mean it's the same drive...

so you would just plug into new pc

power cable and sata cable for 2.5inch ssd

then for m.2 it's pretty self explanatory

[sour wadi]

Take it out and stick it into the new pc, you'll just have to get rid of windows off of your old boot drive with a wipe so move any important files over to the new drive or something first

[rough galleon]

my one nvme ssd is not being dtected no more? any tips

[sour wadi]

Does it show up in bios?

[rough galleon]

nope

it was yesterday nothing today

[sour wadi]

If it doesn't show in bios i would reseat it, maybe it has come loose

If it wasn't screwed in enough or something

@rough galleon it is detecting your m.2, m2_1

[rough galleon]

i know

i need it to detect m.2_2 a 1tb sad

ssd

[sour wadi]

Ohh

Can you go into advanced mode or something along those lines in the bios?

[rough galleon]

i’ve tried

[pallid orchid]

please tell me you havent OCed the cpu

and its on pbo

not a manual oc

but yeah @rough galleon unplug and replug the ssd

[rough galleon]

i have not OCed the cpu only ram, and it’s been buggy. should we update bios?

@pallid orchid @sour wadi

[sour wadi]

@rough galleon what board cpu and bios version are you on

[rough galleon]

okay msi x570 tomahawk wifi

and ik im four versions behind, also 5900x

but i just fixed it

by uninstalling and reinstalling ssd

@sour wadi

[sour wadi]

Nice

[rough galleon]

@sour wadi i still will update bios as my ram won’t over lock correctly, it does then black screens if i restart computer

[sour wadi]

That's fair, you are just enabling xmp correct?

For the ram overclock

[rough galleon]

yes

and profile two

[sour wadi]

You might have just got wack ram and need to rma

[rough galleon]

rma? @sour wadi but i’m still gonna try to update bios first

[real lava]

rma means using your warranty basically

[rough galleon]

yea

but i got this ram pack like 6 months ago so we shall see lol

[real lava]

6 months, eh

ram always have lifetime warranty

cause they rarely fail

[rough galleon]

yea i just saw it, we’ll it over locked fine but then restarted and black screen, so i’m gonna try bios before any of that

[sour wadi]

Yeah if bios update doesn't work just rma it

[rough galleon]

okay thank you @sour wadi

[sour wadi]

Np

[pallid orchid]

RAM OC can be buggy

Turn on XMP

Oh nvm u said ur doing XMP

thats fine

[noble atlas]

Is this a good deal for this portable storage?
Verbatim DataLife High Density 3.5 inch Microdisks MF-2HD 10 Diskettes Per Pack https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MBPJNS/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_SZ72B19S0NCT1J5NMA99

[upper quiver]

no?

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-BAR-Plus-32GB-Champagne/dp/B07BPHML28/

better portable storage

:P

i guess if youre that curious the reviews are stating the vendor has been shipping pre-formatted IBM compatible diskettes, so those are prolly useless to you

[real lava]

samsung bar

[blazing musk]

Say what you want about it, it's near indestructible. It's far more likely to break your USB port than itself if you drop your laptop.

[rancid pike]

dayum thats cheap

last time i had to buy a usb was like 8 years ago lmao

[real lava]

i agree but hey, the name is still funny

[blissful night]

I keep a windows install USB on my keychain

I use it more than you would think

[blazing musk]

I have too many USBs like that. I tried labeling them at one point but the sharpie rubbed off from how much I used them.

[normal basin]

Anyone know if the firecuda 530 (with heatsink) is a good SSD to get?

[blissful night]

You mean Firecuda 520?

[normal basin]

No the 530

[blissful night]

Why do you need Gen4?

[normal basin]

Why not get a gen4

[blazing musk]

Slower than gen 3 in random performance, the part that actually matters

[blissful night]

Because they are not needed and usually way more expensive than in comparison to a Gen3

You will not actually feel or see a difference in gaming really

[normal basin]

Oh

[blazing musk]

Gen 4 is better for sequential only, like editing 16k video

[blissful night]

https://github.com/lQUBEXl/Gamezoid-Consumer-SSD-Buying-Guide/blob/main/README.md

I highly recommend looking at this for picking out a drive

[normal basin]

Yeah imma just be playing like GTA and warzone

So imma get gen 3 instead

[blissful night]

Helix L usually is what I recommend

[blazing musk]

Pick one off the "gamers" section in that guide and you're good

[blissful night]

On sale also I do believe

[blazing musk]

Any of the higher tier drives will work too, but will have almost no impact on load times

[normal basin]

I'm just looking for a really fast SSD with 500 gigabytes or more

[blazing musk]

What budget?

Probably at least $100 if you were looking at gen 4 drives

[normal basin]

130$

[blazing musk]

Yeah that 1 TB helix L is perfect then

[normal basin]

Does read and write speed mean anything though?

[blazing musk]

Yes and no

That's purely theoretical in specs. Sequential speeds are stated most often, which don't really matter for gaming.

[normal basin]

Oh

Aight

[blazing musk]

Even a sata ssd would be fine for most games, unless they use direct texture streaming (which isn't mainstream yet)

[normal basin]

Oh yeah would a firecuda SSHD work well as a hard drive?

[blissful night]

SSHDs are not worth the price

just get a HDD

[minor sun]

Just get a SSD and a HDD

Sshd annoying

[normal basin]

Oh

Yeah it is a 50 dollar SSHD

[blissful night]

I got a 1tb SSHD from some laptop I bought off ebay and lmao its not any better than a HDD

its the same speed

[normal basin]

Yeah because I was looking at a 50 dollar one

[torpid adder]

Sshd is just a hard drive with 8GB of nand flash, usually in addition to the dram cache but sometimes without it I think

So really, garbo

You can even allocate an ssd and a hdd into one drive if you wanted

[obsidian walrus]

How about a Crucial P5 m.2 ?

I have it as my boot drive, you can then get a PNY regular SSD for storage. No more HDDs for me ever again.

[dense merlin]

The last hdd I'll ever use is the 4tb one that is on its way that I just traded for

[obsidian walrus]

4TB Crucial P5?

Oh HDD. My bad

[dense merlin]

Ima be honest

Idek what hdd it is just that it's wd

I just wanted the ram gone that I traded for it

And 4tb

[obsidian walrus]

Haha. Hey nothing wrong with big ass HDD for storing everything. But for speed. A solid state drive is the way to go

[dense merlin]

Yeah I've currently got a pny ssd for my boot, 2tb external Seagate and then that 4tb on the way

I dont need too much bulk storage but it was the only offer I got and I decided why not

[obsidian walrus]

Nice! And a 3060ti I see!

[dense merlin]

I have 300gb in bo3 alone lol

Yeah thats a long story

My build has cost me over 1800 now because skytech sucks

No longer a pre build though

Only things left are gpu, cpu, and ssd

[obsidian walrus]

I put my@build together thanks to Mercari and YouTube videos. Lol

[torpid adder]

the system reserved on my hard drive is still awake after switching to boot off the ssd

cloned just fine

not sure what I'm gonna use the other ssd for yet

I have a third not installed that I wanted to use in another machine, my mom's laptop or something

but that cloning process will be more involved, more stuff on her drive, no drive to back the stuff up to, and no cable to plug the ssd into

I'm gonna repartition the hard drive so it's just a big volume but I feel like waiting to do that

[torpid adder]

wowie

vroomin

[sour wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-i-am-speed-meme-kid-gif-14031709

[torpid adder]

WD Blue 3D 250GB vs HGST Ultrastar 7K4000 2TB

haven't partitioned the other 250GB Blue I have installed

aight I'll run on the other one too

RND4K Q32T1 is cpu intensive 😳

[floral sun]

So I'm trying to install another m.2 in, and the screws are very securely screwed in, screws feel like they're moving but just aren't. Is there a way to unscrew without too much force?

[real lava]

Maybe you're using the wrong bit for the screw?

Wrong bit could either strip it or not have enough force

[umbral frigate]

Hi, I would like to know if this usb storage device available? the device in question is "Corsair voyager Gtx 1TB "

[sour wadi]

Why does it have to be Corsair lol?

A sandisk or something would probs be cheaper and better or the same speeds

[umbral frigate]

Sandisk have same size and capacity?

I didn't see a Usb storage from Sandisk with 1TB capacity, could you guide me to a better solution?

[sour wadi]

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Dual-Drive-Type-C/dp/B0842P5GG5/ref=mp_s_a_1_13?dchild=1&keywords=1tb+usb&qid=1627377794&sr=8-13

That should do

And it's a usb a and usb c one which is nice

[umbral frigate]

it's nice for sure, but the one I posted above is 4 times faster, read and write speed is 440mb/sec

[sour wadi]

It's also like 400$ lol

[umbral frigate]

The quality is also 4-times better than sandisk

[sour wadi]

[sour wadi]

By what metric lol

[umbral frigate]

They wouldn't sell it for 400$ just because it's 4 times faster,lol

[sour wadi]

[sour wadi]

Companies do not want to be your friend the usbs are just in plastic/metal housings and read and write data there's no build quality difference lol

[umbral frigate]

I hardly believe that all Usb storages have the same quality, simply because they do not have the same speed. Quality is also a big factor when it comes to give a product a price tag.

[sour wadi]

So by that logic a rolex is 50x better than a casio watch?

There's nothing more to usbs lol read write and metal/plastic housing, what else would there be

[umbral frigate]

Data storage life span is a big factor

[sour wadi]

Well drive life span is so over the top anyway, i had a 240gb ssd as only storage in my pc for 6 years and didn't even get near to 1/10 of the drives rated life span

[umbral frigate]

what was the brand of that ssd?

[sour wadi]

SanDisk

[umbral frigate]

what do you think about this one , they don't mention the speed , although it's way more expensive than corsair : https://www.amazon.com/Apricorn-Validated-256-bit-Encryption-ASK3-1TB/dp/B07QMNC6CD?th=1

[sour wadi]

Just no

That is a stupid amount for 1tb storage no matter the speed

Never heard of either probs a 30$ usb from Alibaba r something

[blazing musk]

Apricorn is a real brand, and has been around for a while. They make mostly decent stuff in the mid range. I had a sata to usb adapter from them like 12 years ago.

That adapter finally broke last year btw

[sour wadi]

Just assumed because of the horrendous price lol

[blazing musk]

I don't blame you, it's not a major brand but any means. Just thought I'd point out it's got a good chance of actually being good.

[sour wadi]

600$ good tho

[rapid dagger]

Msrp 3070 or 1tb flash drive

[sour wadi]

Not even msrp 3070, aib 3070 kek

[minor sun]

Keep in mind, Corsair doesn't make the flash, they get someone else to make it, and just slap a brand on it, SanDisk is one of the manufacturers for flash memory, like Toshiba. And well, that makes it hard to give Corsair the advantage in any performance metrics or endurance, just because of higher prices, since it'll be harder to know what flash is actually in their drives.

[real lava]

^

Some drives are just basically marked up for the sake of it

[sour wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/community-annie-edison-alison-brie-comedy-what-no-gif-4172986

[kind sierra]

@umbral frigate that is a lot for 1TB of storage, especially with the speeds it's getting

A samsung NVMe in a usb adapter would be cheaper and way faster

I wouldn't pay more than maybe 110-120 on a 1TB flash drive unless it was really good

It's also worth noting that the speeds listed on USB flash drives are usually burst speeds

Most places I'm looking puts that corsair drive at somewhere around 60MB/s for real world usage

[meager spire]

maybe im dumb, but I cant think of a single use case for a 1tb flash drive

[blazing musk]

Console storage expansion

[meager spire]

wouldnt it be better and cheaper to get an external SSD drive ?

[blazing musk]

Windows to go

[meager spire]

windows doesnt need 1tb of space?

[blazing musk]

Depends, I've seen some 1tb drives go for $50

[meager spire]

fair enough

[blazing musk]

If you're using Windows to go you might be storing a lot of data next to it

[meager spire]

fair

ok

[blazing musk]

1tb SD cards are fun too

[red jay]

i need better m2 nvm 2 tb

name

????

[blazing musk]

https://github.com/lQUBEXl/Gamezoid-Consumer-SSD-Buying-Guide/blob/main/README.md

[midnight lance]

I’m looking for a modem compatible with Comcast/XFINITY their upgraded modem is xb7 CGM4331COM and TG4482A, / does Newegg have something comparable??

[dense merlin]

Please don't spam

Ask in a single chat

[midnight lance]

Don’t know which chat to inquire from

[dense merlin]

None of the ones you asked in really, maybe electronics but I'm not sure. If you give it a bit maybe someone will answer

[midnight lance]

Ok thanks sorry for the bother

[somber falcon]

Good Day everyone: I'm looking for an enclosure for a 2.5" hard drive. The drive is big (12mm) and most enclosures only accomodate up to 9 mm. anyone have an recommendation?

[spice hedge]

Where are you from @somber falcon ?

[somber falcon]

Austin

[spice hedge]

Ah okay, just checking so I know where to look, country-wise

https://www.amazon.com/External-2-5-inch-SATA-Drive-Enclosure/dp/B079ZSHY8S

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32774430901.html

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-17-182-362

[red jay]

Pilot?

[sour wadi]

Pilot e i assume you're talking about? isn't a external ssd and is definitely not as low as 50$ for 1tb unfortunately lol

[red jay]

Lmao

[dense kelp]

i'm not a hardcore gamer and i don't plan on having a huge library but would a 256gb m.2 and a 1tb ssd work well?

[upper quiver]

just get a 1tb ssd

or a 512gb ssd and a 2tb hdd

which, imo is the ideal storage configuration

simply from a cost per GB perspective

[meager spire]

Yup. Would work perfectly

[fast osprey]

I'm looking to build a storage system to handle data for a photo and video department. Does anyone have recommendations on the best jbod enclosure and drives? I'd aim for around 30 TB and partition it for redundancy.

Or would you go a different route with it?

[dense merlin]

so i have a pny cs900 for my boot drive

is it worth it getting a 128gb nvme drive for boot?

[real lava]

eh nah

it's small

[dense merlin]

i just mean to have windows on

would there be any noticeable difference?

[real lava]

nope

[dense merlin]

kk thanks

[real lava]

i can even still feel snappy with wd green sata

[sour wadi]

128 and 256gb drives are a waste of money 512gb is like 3$ more than a 250gb

[dense merlin]

i dont need the extra storage space

i just wasnt sure if there wsa any noticeable difference for a boot drive

[sour wadi]

Nah

[sour wadi]

Still not worth like 3$ more for 2x more storage