storage-devices

[minor sun]

ms30 trash

[pale bobcat]

mp33

Cant find 34

But I guess I this is fine

[minor sun]

oh boi mp34 is just out of stock

pilot e would be good

[pale bobcat]

Never heard of dat

Is the a name of a prod or brand

[minor sun]

Mushkin Pilot E

it's a decent cheap drive

[deep spire]

is Reletech a reliable brand for ssd's?

[pale bobcat]

Is WD blue sn550 good @minor sun

[pallid orchid]

its good yee

great bdget drive

I use it myself

[pale bobcat]

Ur main or backup

[pallid orchid]

main windows boot

[pale bobcat]

[pallid orchid]

I use 2 raid 0 HDDs for game storage lol

[pale bobcat]

Seems legit

[pale frigate]

I've never heard of someone using raid 0 with hdds not ssds that's interesting lol

[pallid orchid]

raid is generally more common with HDDs tho tbh

[minor sun]

sn550 good

raid 0 makes no sense for HDDs tho

[pale frigate]

Yea but raid for redundancy not raid 0

[minor sun]

like raid 5 is great for HDDs and such

but

raid 0 ain't exactly something you usually see in HDDs

[pale frigate]

That was kinda my point lol

[pallid orchid]

helped load times in my case

[minor sun]

excuse me WHAT

[pallid orchid]

Yee

[minor sun]

Do you have your game on separate drives or smth?

[pallid orchid]

Like for example warzone takes quite a bit less time to start up from the raid array than a single drive

raid array being 2 raid 0 hdds

single drive being a 2TB barracuda

the hdds in raid are also barracudas

[minor sun]

bruh

[pallid orchid]

yeah?

[minor sun]

too lazy to find testing

[pallid orchid]

Ahh nice

also I store games on that drive only. No data as such so even if I lose all the data from the drive theres no damage done

all my important data is backed up on a spare external drive and another backup offsite

so redundance doesnt matter to me as much

[pale frigate]

I mean I guess I could see it increasing speed in some cases since it's splitting the data across both of them that said if you only have games on it and nothing that's a big deal to lose I guess it doesn't matter too much I've just never heard of that before

[pallid orchid]

affected loading times by 5-10 seconds on warzone

maybe more

pretty noticeable

[olive wadi]

you effectively double (or more depending on how many drives) IO throughput with raid 0

so it makes sense (reducing loading times)

especially when you already suck butt with a hard drive

doesn't make it any less of a meme though

[cloud berry]

that's cool

[pale frigate]

its sata ssd's but yea it''s neat

[mild sluice]

Is it a hard drive that has raid built in?

[stoic mountain]

O.o

[torpid adder]

the pic looks like it shows two different read write arms

[dusk turtle]

If that pic is the drive

8 platters

2 separate arms

ya

Still, it's only saturating the SATA bus

Not NVME speeds

[torpid adder]

how big is it

[dusk turtle]

14 TB

[torpid adder]

not capacity, size

[dusk turtle]

That article is old I think

It's a 3.5 inch drive

It's also a SAS drive

https://www.pcgamer.com/fastest-hard-drive-in-the-world/

[torpid adder]

ah

[pallid orchid]

I heavily doubt it can perform as well as an ssd in random reads and writes tho

like a decent ssd that is

[small steppe]

Huey9ball, that command is disabled in this channel.

[blissful nacelle]

hi guys i already have an ssd which is full and im willing to buy a 1tb hdd for extra space. Any specific model i should get?

[sour wadi]

You can get 2tbs for like 40$ i would just get that as it will be same/less than some 1tbs

[blissful nacelle]

ty @sour wadi

[olive wadi]

no they appear as two partitions lol

[olive wadi]

it cant

not even close

[pallid orchid]

is it just me or does it seem like its basically 2 7tb drives in raid 0 in one package perf wise

[olive wadi]

they appear as two partitions

it's not raid

lol

its two hard drives

just not in raid

you should be able to combine the partitions without any kind of raid though

and you probably can enable raid

[pallid orchid]

I said perf wise

[olive wadi]

sort of?

depends on how you configure it

[open gust]

Guys should I wipe my m.2 so there is not residue cause I had to take it out of 2 motherboards with the plastic off the thermal pad

[pallid orchid]

no need

[mint mountain]

help

so my pc when it boots up it used to have the normal screen now it does the windows logo and then it goes:

_
_

_

_

then it loads

how do i fix that

[blazing musk]

The thing that breaks windows features the most is windows.
It's likely one of those things that they "patched" something related and broke it. I wouldn't worry too much, it's still doing the same thing just without the spinny logo.

[mint mountain]

oh ok

[blissful nacelle]

guys im selecting parts for a pc and dont know what storage to get. I think im gonna go with a single 2tb ssd. Which model do you think i should get

[minor sun]

what's the overall budget

[sour wadi]

Pilot e

[blissful nacelle]

the mushkin ?

[sour wadi]

Ye

[blissful nacelle]

I dont think its available where i live

[sour wadi]

Ohh where do you live?

[blissful nacelle]

any other more popular suggestion?

[minor sun]

what's the overall budget tho

[blissful nacelle]

Lebanon

200-250

[sour wadi]

Ahh

[minor sun]

what currency

and what retailer

[blissful nacelle]

usd

what do u mean by retailer

[minor sun]

amazon.de should ship to lebanon iirc

[blissful nacelle]

i can shop via 3rd party services

from amazon

us

and i can pay like 50$ shipping and taxes

[minor sun]

eh

[blissful nacelle]

how much is the pilot e

[minor sun]

~220usd for 2tb

[blissful nacelle]

u think its worth the extra 50$

[minor sun]

https://www.newegg.com/mushkin-enhanced-pilot-e-2tb/p/N82E16820226902

[blissful nacelle]

i dont mind it

[minor sun]

extra 50?

[blissful nacelle]

for shipping

since its not available here

[minor sun]

What retailers ship to you with little to no shipping that we could check?

[blissful nacelle]

i dont think any one ships here

thats the thing

[minor sun]

wack

[blissful nacelle]

thats why i asked if there were more popular brands that i can find here in lebanon

[sour wadi]

Try Amazon.de?

[blissful nacelle]

ill check gimme a sec

[sour wadi]

Sn550

There's no pilot e on Amazon.de tho

Or if it is it's wack pricing

[blissful nacelle]

450 euros + 60euros delivery amazon de

[minor sun]

heh

that's a no

[blissful nacelle]

xD

[sour wadi]

Try sn550

[blissful nacelle]

doesnt ship to lebanon

sn550

[sour wadi]

Oh

Sad

[blissful nacelle]

ikr

can i just get like any brand

thats available in some pc store

[sour wadi]

Check pins

I mean you can but it's not gonna be very good usually

I mean you could look at samsung drives locally, usually they're more expensive but they are quite popular and since you would have to pay 60ish shipping to you anyway might be worth the diff

[blissful nacelle]

yea i think there are plenty of samsung ones

which model do u recommend

and do u recommend having a separate ssd to boot the pc

[sour wadi]

970 if it's the right price

[blissful nacelle]

or everything on the 2tb one

space is not an issue

[sour wadi]

Nah just 1 nvme

[blissful nacelle]

thanks alot

[sour wadi]

Np :)

[arctic turret]

Is an nvme SSD better than SATA now?

Or is it more of a matter of preference?

[meager spire]

nvme is MUCH faster

[arctic turret]

if i get a hold of an nvme should i use sata for storage instead?

while the nvme would be used for programs and whatnot

but i'm wondering if ssd have other drawbacks besides price

[meager spire]

depends on the capacities.

[arctic turret]

assuming same capacity, such as 500gb

admittedly, i run ubuntu and win10 on separate ssd, the former of which is smaller in size

[meager spire]

500gb, honestly id only put OS on the SATA SSD, and use the 500GB nvme for programs

[arctic turret]

okay fair

is an hdd even useful anymore

or does it still have benefits

other than price

[meager spire]

My PC evolved to where I use HDD for my programs and for storing work files. It is viable, but should be avoided if possible

[arctic turret]

so i can do fine without one, or only use it in an older pc?

okay

by older pc i mean my backup 2010's machine if something goes wrong with my build

[meager spire]

if you need cheap massive storage, you cant beat an HDD

[arctic turret]

ye

[meager spire]

try keep an ssd for OS at least

so your pc boots quickly

[arctic turret]

i figured

mine does nicely

[meager spire]

yeh. thats what I got: NVME boot, and all the rest on HDDs. works just fine

[arctic turret]

so the hdd you have don't affect that?

nice

[meager spire]

ill tell you: my wife and I play Borderlands together, she has the game isntalled on a SATA SSD and mine is on an HDD. she gets into the game faster, but not much faster than me. and in game there is no difference

[pale bobcat]

@minor sun whats a good gen 3 crucial drives?

P1 or p2

[dusk turtle]

Get a mushkin pilot e or sk hynix p31 gold.

[pale bobcat]

cant find one

[dusk turtle]

Crucial drives arent the greatest

[pale bobcat]

Ah okay

So

Teamgroup mp34 or sn550

Aight

[dusk turtle]

Mp34 in that case

[pale bobcat]

Yeeee so cheap

[pale frigate]

Has anyone else seen the gigabyte SSD with a 1.75 inch heatsink on it?😂

I almost thought it was a meme until I saw their product page

[blazing musk]

Gen4 goes brrrrrr 🔥

[pale frigate]

Clearly, I was just shocked because I really thought it was a meme when I first saw it. Thing has a bigger heatsink than a passive gt710😂

[blazing musk]

Yeah that's still meme amounts of excessive cooling, a tiny heatsink covering it with a little airflow over it would be plenty. Maybe if your board has the heat spreader M.2 cover, those work too.

[plush crag]

looks ridiculous

[grand moth]

Seriously why is that heat sink needed, small ones work fine. I wanna do a heat transfer simulation to see how well it works

[olive wadi]

now?

it's been better since the beginning

[olive wadi]

this is a certified phison moment

[pale frigate]

😂

[olive wadi]

the right price for the 970 evo is like $100 lol

it sucks butt

would recommend it for $110ish

[arctic turret]

Oh okay, I thought it took time to improve but I see what you mean

[olive wadi]

i mean

nvme is literally ahci but better lol

deeper que depth, longer que length, lower latency,

[arctic turret]

I guess it won’t drop in price for a while either

Has it?

[olive wadi]

budget nvme is cheaper than good sata/ahci

so yes it has dropped

[arctic turret]

Oh?

[olive wadi]

read the gamezoid ssd buying guide in the pins

[arctic turret]

I need to look further

[olive wadi]

lots of drives that you can expect to be priced $90-$100 for 1tb

i mean expected price doesnt work that way

typically at least one of those options in that list is in that range lol

[arctic turret]

Thanks a bunch for the advice on this.

[sour wadi]

Yeah but Lebanon so possible it's right price there? Considering pilot e was like 400$ lol

[olive wadi]

poop

[upper quiver]

💩

[floral roost]

I am looking for the correct sata to usb cord for a 2007 compaq hard drive. I need to pull my sons baby pics off it. I tried to add a picture but I couldn’t manage that. 🙄

[torpid adder]

3.5" drives aren't usable with a normal sata to usb cord, they need more power than usb can provide

if it is 3.5"

[floral roost]

I believe it is 3.5. What do I need then?

[torpid adder]

actually there are some versions with dc power adapters, but it's cheaper to get a drive enclosure I think

30 usd for one with dc power, 23 for an enclosure

https://www.newegg.com/rosewill-rx307-pu3-35b-enclosure/p/N82E16817182347

should work

[floral roost]

Thank you!

[torpid adder]

you're welcome ^^

[floral roost]

I have been trying to figure this out for weeks. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[frozen silo]

how are you supposed to screw it in?

[torpid adder]

that's a good question

[frozen silo]

or keep it in place

flex tape

[torpid adder]

I'm guessing the screw driver goes between the heatpipes

probably not an issue

[grand sonnet]

Can anybody help me with connectors for my circuit board

[blazing musk]

Even this would be an overkill heatsink, you really just need to cover the controller not the whole thing

[torpid adder]

yea xd

[pallid orchid]

Thats better cooled than my cpu...

[loud estuary]

Recommendations for cheap nas storage? I have two 2.5" and one 3.5" and I need a solid 20TB-24TBs

[blazing musk]

That sounds extremely limiting, let me see what I can find though

What's your definition of "cheap"

[blazing musk]

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B01M0AADIX

• https://www.newegg.com/seagate-exos-x18-st18000nm000j-18tb/p/1B4-00VK-00616?quicklink=true
  = 23GB for $900

[loud estuary]

Yeah. I might be able to fit another drive in if I can 3D print another caddy. Space is limited in my case

Thanks for that Exos link

[blazing musk]

18TB is the highest prosumer grade size right now
You might be able to find a drive for cheaper, sometimes they're on sale for around $500

If you had $6600 to burn on this project you could go for dual 15.3TB SSDs
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B08SQLNHC8

[stoic mountain]

Sata or sas?

[loud estuary]

Sata. I also have a free pcle and m.2 slot

[olive wadi]

Something about shuck meme but prices suck now thanks to chia farmers

[minor sun]

They're killing too many drives :p

[narrow wraith]

I'm running two nvme drives for all my general usage but would like a decent hdd or ssd for bulk storage of gaming clips and recordings. Any recommendations are appreciated

[sour wadi]

Depending on size, if 4tb x300 Toshiba

[grand moth]

Go cheap with a giant hdd

[strong elm]

i have a new laptop and im plugging in my old sata samsung evo. it appeared on This PC but then disappeared and Ive tried reattaching the SATA connector multiple times, is there any other possible way to troubleshoot this?

[grand moth]

Try to explain what you’re doing a bit. You’re physically putting the old drive into the back of the laptop?

[grand moth]

Also are you using an adapter or something from the evo to your laptop

[sour wadi]

Just found out why pilot e is 💩 pricing outside NA, they're actually owned by newegg and newegg has like 2 countries in Europe they are available in

[blazing musk]

Mushkin has always been a Newegg brand lol, it used to be exclusively sold on Newegg too

[meager spire]

they used to do RAM.. was top tier too...

[sour wadi]

I never realized as it sells on Amazon etc and also some brands are basically just NA and if it's in Europe it's someone reselling it at outrageous prices, just assumed it was that considering a pilot e costs about 400€ on Amazon Germany lol

[strong elm]

Just woke up sorry. Plugging in through the internal SATA IDE connector with the blue strip

[olive wadi]

what since when

its parent is avant tech

[olive wadi]

what

[minor sun]

what

@blazing musk @sour wadi

Avant, Edge, Mushkin and Avant de Mexico operate under the Avant Technology Corporate Umbrella. The company has multiple North American facilities. Engineering and sales for all brands are based at our corporate headquarters near Austin, Texas. Avant de Mexico manages our world-class manufacturing facilities in Matamoros and Reynosa, Mexico.

I don't think that's wegg

[blazing musk]

I meant like they used to be a newegg exclusive brand and are distributed primarily by them

[minor sun]

dunno

but they are not wegg

[sour wadi]

Idk i saw somewhere they were an in house brand

[minor sun]

Well, they're not, they might only be sold by Newegg, but they aren't owned by Newegg

[sour wadi]

I see i see

[mint mountain]

idk if this is breaking the rules

but how much should i sell my 570x crystal for

[sour wadi]

Advice on pricing/ selling is fine as long as you don't promote it here

[mint mountain]

oh ok

[sour wadi]

Also isn't that a case?

[mint mountain]

yeah

[sour wadi]

Look at channel lol

[mint mountain]

ik it always happens to me

[sour wadi]

Dw lol

[dusk turtle]

Meh, it's fine

Don't really care about being strict about channel topics so long as they don't break the rules

[sour wadi]

I was just confused because i was like is this some obscure ssd or hdd r sum

[dusk turtle]

I thought it was a GPU TBH XD

[sour wadi]

Or a mistyped x570 motherboard xd

[dusk turtle]

all of the above

[hidden root]

anyone got any opinions on the sk hynix gold p31 nvme?

[dusk turtle]

one of the BEST NVME drives for random IO

Which is real world use

Even beats some Gen 4 drives

[hidden root]

hmm i see I was thinking either that or the samsung evo 970 plus

[dusk turtle]

Hynix hands down

No question there

[hidden root]

ok thanks for the info!

[dusk turtle]

YW

[stoic mountain]

P31 nice high end ssd

[olive wadi]

SINCE WHEN

[blazing musk]

This was years ago, back when they made RAM. It's not the case any more.

[olive wadi]

p31 gold performs the same while costing less money

dont think they were ever owned by wegg

but ok my gamer

[blazing musk]

Not owned by wegg but exclusively sold there

[olive wadi]

i mean

they are on amazon

so

[blazing musk]

Well yeah NOW they are

But not 8 years ago

[olive wadi]

PROOF

[blazing musk]

I'll try to dig something up I guess but it's harder to prove something doesn't exist instead of the other way around

[short lodge]

@dusk turtle Helix L vs this? https://www.amazon.com/Inland-Professional-Internal-Solid-State/dp/B08863G6PN/ref=sr_1_18?dchild=1&keywords=nvme%2Bssd%2B1tb&qid=1622327137&s=electronics&sr=1-18&th=1

Do you know

[dusk turtle]

IDK about Inland Pro

[short lodge]

Ok, thanks

[agile moat]

Anyone here LTO

[deep spire]

anyone have any idea why my new nvme might be way below advertised read/write speeds?

currently have 2 in my system

[torpid adder]

what drives and motherboard do you have

[deep spire]

wd black sn750 is my main one not the new one

sabrent rocket q 2tb is my new one

mobo is aorus b450 pro wifi

[minor sun]

how filled is it

[deep spire]

got 2 nvmes

and no other drives

[torpid adder]

should be not filled since it's new

[minor sun]

how filled is the rocket q

[deep spire]

wdym filled

[minor sun]

yes, but people offload things to their SSDs

how much of it is taken up

[deep spire]

1.26tb free of 1.81tb

and its just for steam games really

[minor sun]

around 1/4 eh, shouldn't be too bad

[deep spire]

but i did technically clone my hard drive to it

im getting 1.5k read and write

[minor sun]

cdm?

[deep spire]

?

[minor sun]

what tool

[deep spire]

yes

cdm

[minor sun]

is it a b450 aorus pro wifi

[deep spire]

yes sir

[minor sun]

M.2_B is PCIe 3.0x2, that's probably it

[deep spire]

ahhh

ok

so its stuck like that

so i should probably swap them since most games are on the 2tb

and my os on the 250gb?

soo idk

[deep spire]

hmm

ok thanks

whered you find that btw

in manual?

[minor sun]

you can prob find it in the manual, dif spreadsheet

[torpid adder]

I'd prefer using the larger ssd as my C drive

[minor sun]

eh

[deep spire]

i could

the smaller one is a wd black though

[minor sun]

I'd personally just use the sn750 as main

[deep spire]

yeah thats what i got rn

[torpid adder]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[deep spire]

although that one is probably capped bit too

but not as much

[minor sun]

wat

[deep spire]

still like 2800

read/write speeds

[minor sun]

normal run to run variation I'd say

and prob pslc

[deep spire]

but ive had it for a while

yeah

[minor sun]

sn750 has a bit sub-par rnd perf, but rocket q is even worse

[deep spire]

yuh

i wanted to get the really boujee sabrent nvme but i realized it would be capped becuse of my mobo

not having pcie 4

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-gif-19302737

[minor sun]

uh

rocket 4 plus still loses to a p31 in rnd >:P

[deep spire]

i think it was that one

idk

it was $300

for 2tb i think

[hollow sphinx]

i am being offered a 1tb crucial p5 for $94 think it's worth buying it for a flip build?

[minor sun]

The p5 is just interesting

[minor sun]

I would place it as same place as sn550

[olive wadi]

PROOF

[olive wadi]

LOL WHAT

NO

crucial p5 is well above the SN550

people give the SN550 way too much credit

Crucial P5 is compareable to like mushkin pilot-E, 970 evo, etc

[minor sun]

@olive wadi hawt

[minor sun]

4kb qd1 rnd read

:p

[minor sun]

I like the rnd perf, and yea, prob giving it too much credit, but the p5 being hawt part is why I place it closer to sn550, otherwise, peak perf and such, it's pilot e basically.

[olive wadi]

p5 isn't even crazy hot it's like 970 evo level hot

it's just that no one cares until someone makes a reddit pooppost about it

[minor sun]

I went off what toms hardware said but ye

Reddit too wacky for me

[wispy forum]

so i have a 2.5 ssd in my laptop. I have an efi partition, microsoft reserved, and microsoft basic data. Is there a way i can make an iso out of this so that i can take it out, wipe, reflash, and plunk it back in the laptop?

ik clonezilla has this functionality but is it safe to do on a windows disk and have it boot?

[agile moat]

Any of y'all have a LTO drive? I won't even ask if one of y'all has a library.

[hollow magnet]

One of the few upgrades I got for my computer that was absolutely worth it was a Samsung QVO 870 SSD, since that adds 1TB alongside the ~256GB the NVmE SSD got initially

[storm kettle]

How many gbs should a boot drive be?

[plush crag]

Yes

[olive wadi]

yes

[dusk turtle]

SSD or NVME, not an HDD

[meager spire]

minimum 512gb

[agile moat]

max 512gb for a boot only

128 min

[meager spire]

nah, no one should be fitting 128gb drives, for any reason

[agile moat]

if it's only for OS, why not?

[meager spire]

experience.

[blazing musk]

But what if it's a drive I bought 4 years ago that's actually decent and I got it on sale for $15? I just use the nvme for OS and some programs, then I have a 2tb ssd game drive.

[pallid orchid]

My windows install with hardly any apps installed except for stff like gpuz and hwinfo takes up over 128 GB

I would suggest a 256 or higher if you gonna buy today

[meager spire]

it fills up pretty quickly, doesnt it

[pallid orchid]

Yep

it really does

[agile moat]

off topic, but yeah!!!, less then 3 hours of sleep....

[pallid orchid]

not really

[agile moat]

no, not your stuff. i was saying that my own comment following was off topic

[meager spire]

you waiting to buy a gpu, or you got a newborn?

[agile moat]

well, the first, but that's not why. I'm a night owl, and got stuck with the rare 9AM start

is there a best buy drop or something?

[meager spire]

sorry man, I honestly cant help you. am not in the US

[agile moat]

ahh. it's 4 am here now, and i have to leave in 4 hours. i technically did have a nap earlier for a couple hours, but

[sour wadi]

No, buying a 128gb and 256gb aren't worth it in 2021 512gb is the smallest worth it

[silver owl]

So I bought a 'ASUS ROG Strix Arion M.2 NVMe SSD' is there a cable that goes directly from Type-C USB to Sata

I keep finding this type

well aparently I cant post pics

its the sata with power in one or do i really need to add the sata power

https://www.newegg.com/global/ae-en/asus-esd-s1c-blk-g-as-enclosure/p/N82E16817320006

https://www.newegg.com/global/ae-en/p/18M-01CE-00001?Description=type-c to Sata&cm_re=type-c_to Sata-_-9SIAJW88W92819-_-Product

so is it a must to have one or I shouldnt power it?

[pallid orchid]

this one is both together

[pallid orchid]

this is m.2 form factor

wont work with a regular sata drive

[blazing musk]

Depends on the kind of virus they got. If it's a rootkit absolutely re-initialize that thing, same with ransomware. Anything less than that probably not necessary, you usually don't even need to reinstall windows.

Yeah that's not a critical one, usually just a malwarebytes scan renders it harmless

If they're paranoid though, a wipe and reinstall would definitely kill it

Yes the pro version isn't really needed for anything IMO, it just allows for real time scanning like an antivirus

[torpid adder]

in other words

a downgrade

[woeful solar]

just like the 3080 'tie'

[meager spire]

I actually like that name 🤣 , cos Im a huge SW nerd. gonna start calling them that

[woeful solar]

3080 tie fighters

[minor sun]

Fun micron 3400 drives with 176L nand, prob e18

[barren sparrow]

2tb barracuda won’t format, it makes a weird noise when I turn the pc on and keeps saying can’t format Bc of an I/O error

[amber ivy]

RMA

[barren sparrow]

I’ve tried plugging it into another pc to get it to work

Alright

So there is no way to fix it myself?

[amber ivy]

If it won't initialize, then no

[barren sparrow]

Alright, thank you

[amber ivy]

I had a 4TB WD Black do the same thing to me

[barren sparrow]

Damn

At first I thought the noise was a fan scraping but when I went to plug it into another pc I didn’t put it in all the way I just had it resting on the floor and it was obvious something was broken

[amber ivy]

Yeah, returned that one and the replacement they sent initialized but makes bad noises. 😦

[barren sparrow]

Dang

[agile moat]

i'll be picking up a Quantum Scalar i40 LTO library tomorrow. i'm exxcited. will be 4 hour round trip to get it.

[sweet nova]

Does anyone know of a usb3 to sata data that still let's you power a drive from a psu?

[torpid adder]

why would you power the drive from your power supply if you're going to be using usb anyway

[sweet nova]

@torpid adder trying to make a pi nas and basically all of the powered adapters use power bricks so i would rather just wire the data to the pi and let a single psu handle the power for the whole thing

[torpid adder]

a multi drive enclosure with one power adapter would serve that purpose well enough

[sweet nova]

true but im trying to design my own

[torpid adder]

don't really think it's a good idea to split data and power with usb

[sweet nova]

i hate myself it would seem so i am trying to design a hot swap pi nas that can be mounted in a server rack...

[deep cobalt]

Designed for proprietary

Like the 9300 pro

Same with their new LPDDR4X, only going to OEMs and proprietary

Not an SM controller most likely

[minor sun]

Hm

[torpid adder]

I would toss BX500 for MX500

but idk

[sour wadi]

^

[torpid adder]

it's evidently nto a very good drive while MX500 is good

WD Blue 3D is a nice drive tho

I have a 500GB

https://tenor.com/view/computer-ssd-stay-hydrated-gaming-gif-19172549

[sour wadi]

Mx

A good bit apparently

[torpid adder]

hmm

[sour wadi]

Rommy check pins

Buy cheapest drive in your category

[torpid adder]

is the ssd spreadsheet abandoned 😭

BX500 is QLC and DRAMless

MX is TLC and DRAM :^)

mhm

p similar

xd

about the same from what I can see

fancy things like tri core nand controller and 128 layer nand or something like that

but seems to be the same performance

monie monie

how s that compared to the other two :o

ah

[lean knoll]

For average gaming is there any real significant benefits to PCIE 4.0 SSD other than load time

[torpid adder]

no

[lean knoll]

well guess im gonna remove that from the list

didnt know why I did in the first place

Whats a good 1td m.2 ssd you would recommend?

[torpid adder]

even a nice SATA SSD gives good loading performance

lessee

mushkin pilot e, team mp34

I guess

don't keep up with pcie ssds, no need to personally with no hardware to support it

[covert forge]

I have a 16 GB Optane + 1 TB HDD config on my laptop and I want to get an SSD, will it be better to just throw out the Optane and get an NVME M.2 SSD or is it better to get a SATA SSD and run it with Optane like my current HDD?

My laptop has 1 M.2 port used by Optane and 2 SATA ports 1 of which is used by the HDD

[blazing musk]

Which model laptop? A lot of them are soldered storage

[covert forge]

Its an HP DA-0000x, it has upgradable storage, I checked it while upgrading my RAM

[blazing musk]

If you have an open SATA port you might as well use that. NVME really only makes a few seconds difference in boot times, and no difference over sata in game load times.

[covert forge]

Thanks! I'll look into it! So will you recommend keeping the current system as is and just adding a SATA SSD as the new boot drive?

[blazing musk]

That's what I would do personally, yeah

Is it a standard 2.5" drive slot? I'll find a good one for you

[covert forge]

Yep it is, thanks a lot!

[blazing musk]

1TB https://pcpartpicker.com/product/h3tQzy/crucial-mx500-1tb-25-solid-state-drive-ct1000mx500ssd1
2TB https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mtprxr/western-digital-0-25-2000000rpm-internal-hard-drive-wds200t2b0a

[sour wadi]

Depending on budget and region, pilot e, hynix p31, sn550

[covert forge]

Thanks a lot!

[blazing musk]

No problem

[covert forge]

Really appreciate it!

[olive wadi]

WAKE UP, GO ONLINE, SEE AHCI, DAY RUINED

[blazing musk]

They had an open sata port on their laptop, you want me to tell them to take out their optane and swap for M.2? Lol

[minor sun]

Yes windshields would like 1tb of 3dxpoint memory

[olive wadi]

solder nvme

[sour wadi]

You know that's not reasonable for most people/most people cba or really would rather do something else with their tim/don't feel capable to do that smh

[blazing musk]

Even I wouldn't want to do that. Too much risk for not a lot of return.

[olive wadi]

soemthing something something woooosh

[hollow sphinx]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/pny-xlr8-cs-3030-ssd-endurance-reduced-almost-80-percent

hmmm

[sour wadi]

Never really liked pny anyway just seemed low quality

[hollow sphinx]

i've bought some pny ssds for some very budget builds

but now i will avoid them entirely

[agile moat]

Well, i now own a LTO library and 2 dat drives

[hollow sphinx]

wow, WD updated their green ssds

now only 80 MB/s seq write

so... less than half the speed of my 7 year old hard drive that I got for free

good job WD

[sand axle]

I recently upgraded my motherboard to a Z590 Aorus Elite Ax and I installed an M.2 SSD and loaded windows 10 pro onto it. Can I eliminate my old windows 10 that is on one of my hard drives and just boot off of the M.2 SSD?

[sour wadi]

Yeah, booting off of an ssd in 2021 is like using a floppy drive for your os at this point XD, still doable but outdated

[sand axle]

So you don't recommend doing it....just keep booting off of the hard drive that I have installed windows 10 pro even though this method really slows up the computer

[sour wadi]

Sorry, i meant not booting off an sdd*

Should always boot of the ssd

[sand axle]

Yeah thats exactly what I am doing....went into Bios and specifically said I wanted to boot off of the ssd and it is working perfectly and has increased my speed greatly

[sour wadi]

Yeah sorry just a typo in my message lol

[arctic tusk]

I bought a wd my book external 4tb hard drive. steam took forever to install games. then I exchanged it for a 1tb nvme ssd....all im gonna say is night and day

[agile moat]

My new baby

[olive wadi]

lol

here we go again

[olive wadi]

makes sense considering it's planar nand garbage

probably running out of sewers to source it from

1tb for 360TBW i think that's the same rating as the 670P

CS3030 switched to micron 144 layer QLC???? BIG IF REAL 😱

that's based why would you even be mad

[minor sun]

Pny farmed chia for you before shipping the drive

[olive wadi]

now that's epic

[minor sun]

ick why isn't ssd mastersheet loading correctly

@olive wadi btw how much do we know about the 176L micron nand on the micron 3400?

apparently it's supposed to be a proprietary drive..?

[olive wadi]

no idea ive been sleeping on ssd news lately

busy

been too busy poopposting

[minor sun]

I see

Continue your activities as long as it's quality pooppost

[woeful solar]

lol even WD Green has become crappy

[torpid adder]

hasn't it always been

[woeful solar]

Yeah

But more crappy that it already was

I forgot to add the 'even more' before crappy

[torpid adder]

lol

[real lava]

lucky im on the older revision of it

[ornate locust]

Do yall have any sata ssd reccomendations?

for around 60 and 70 usd

[dusk turtle]

what size, that's 500 GB territory

[ornate locust]

ye 500gb

[dusk turtle]

I picked up a Hynix S31 Gold for $55 on Amazon

Crucial MX500

etc

[ornate locust]

Alr thx

[pallid orchid]

https://github.com/lQUBEXl/Gamezoid-Consumer-SSD-Buying-Guide/blob/main/README.md

[sonic frigate]

Hey i take pictures and film videos and im running out of storage on my main drive and the time to buy a dedicated drive for my work has come. I want a high capcity drive (like 5 tb) so that way i wont run of storage but the problem is that my parents are divorced and i gotta move home every week. If i get a hdd will it get damaged when moving? Do you recommend a hdd or a ssd? What model would you recommend me?

[olive wadi]

no it wont be damaged while moving

HDDS can withstand like 60+g's when off

[minor sun]

Well

@olive wadi mainly shaking in transport is the thing for hdd deaths during transport afaik

[olive wadi]

in large quantities maybe

hdds survive shipping though so get good

[minor sun]

Eh, I'd try to get ssd still if budget allows

I'd not, it's like 2% AFR kinda thing

[blazing musk]

Vibration is what kills the platters more than shock (impact, bounce, etc).
They ship in anti vibration and anti shock packaging.

[olive wadi]

ok so ship your computer in anti vibration and anti shock padding

[blazing musk]

Or, get an external drive and transport that in the original box

[olive wadi]

or just get good

[urban elm]

Is this the right channel to ask a question if I'm having trouble with my M.2 drive? (Yes I have used Google)

[blazing musk]

Yes it's the right place
What problem?

[urban elm]

@blazing musk cheers

Was able to boot and install windows on my M.2 drive. My bios sees the drive. But I cant put it as a boot priority and it isn't being listed under my (UEFI Hard Drive) I have no clue how to fix this.

It's a B550 MSI mortar with the latest bios update

The Nvme is a Sabrent Rocket

[blazing musk]

MSI bios is a little weird, there should be the main priority menu but then also a menu below you can go into that says something along the lines of "HDD priority" or something like that. Basically it divides the priority list into two (or more) separate lists.

[urban elm]

Okay I'll take a look when I'm back at my rig. I've been through everything and have even reset and re-flashed the board.

[urban elm]

@blazing musk found out what was going on. I had to enable legecy and UEFI for more Boot options. My M.2 boots as a Hard Disk and not a UEFI Hard Disk. Which means if I can't get my M.2 to boot as a UEFI Hard Disk then I can't utilities Smart Access memory between my AMD CPU and GPU. Because when I enable Smart Access Memory it turns off legacy for boot options.

[blazing musk]

Smart access memory isn't really worth using right now, some games actually run worse with it on.
In order to use UEFI features you need to disable legacy boot before you run the windows installer, so it's forced to install the UEFI bootloader.

[urban elm]

Didn't think to do that when I was getting it all set up. Well you live and learn I guess

[dusk merlin]

what are your guy’s thoughts on the teamgroup mp34 m.2 nvme?

[plush crag]

Games are whitelisted, you shouldn't be seeing a performance regression

[sour wadi]

Decent nvme yeah

[arctic turret]

If or when I get an M2 SSD, is 1TB good?

[dusk turtle]

yes

[arctic turret]

nice

Yeah, it's a lot in pricing. I guess I can get that to futureproof my PC for 4-5 years and remove the HDD.

But just to make sure, if I already have a 500GB SATA SSD for the OS, would 500GB for M2 be enough for storage?

[sour wadi]

Honestly it's completely up to you, for 6 years my main desktop was just a 240gb and i only just upgraded

Others use multiple terabytes

[minor sun]

lili with like 8tb of flac files

[sour wadi]

Holy 💩

[sonic frigate]

are they around the same price as a internal one?

[blazing musk]

External tend to be cheaper than internal

[sonic frigate]

i'll also look into ssd's thanks alot to everyone for the help

[sonic frigate]

ok thanks

[blazing musk]

This page can filter things down so you can pick the things you want/need in a drive https://pcpartpicker.com/products/external-hard-drive/

[sonic frigate]

ok thank you

https://www.newegg.ca/model-wdba3a0050bbk-wesn-5tb/p/N82E16822234385?Description=external drive&cm_re=external_drive-_-22-234-385-_-Productwould this be a good choice to store my pictures/videos on even thos its a "game drive"

[blazing musk]

Yep that'll work just fine, although you can probably find something in a higher capacity for cheaper. That one will be good if you want something small though.

[sonic frigate]

yeah if i can find something with the same size but with a higher capacity around the same price ill buy it but for now this is my number 1 choice

[blazing musk]

Out of stock right now but you can buy it and they'll ship when it comes in https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07XVB7G99

It's due in stock the 19th

[sonic frigate]

omg thank you! this is exactly what i needed

yeah im gonna take the one u just sent finally

[blazing musk]

Great! That one is faster too, 7200 rpm instead of 5400. Totally worth the price.

[sonic frigate]

nice that'll help when i gotta tranfert things and impoort them

[arctic turret]

8TB sounds like a lot now, but many games are as huge as 100GB or more now, which is a lot of space on its own.

[dusk turtle]

Well yeah but you could fit 80 100 GB games on an 8 TB drive. I think 2-4TB is entirely reasonable for most people.

[blazing musk]

It's not for games, even though they're getting a "game" drive. It's for photos and videos primarily.

Those can add up REAL fast if you do even amateur photography

[arctic turret]

Oh, I figured, but I forgot photos add up so quickly as well.

I was saying more that there would have been few huge files, as opposed to many tiny ones.

[cyan frigate]

Anyone know what the safe temp range for a hard drive is?

[torpid adder]

look at your hard drive's spec sheet

[cyan frigate]

oh, looks like its manufacturer dependent. 60 C is the threshold for being considered to be overheating for my HDD

[torpid adder]

mine too

[cyan frigate]

It came very close to it.

[torpid adder]

oof

don't know if mine ever did

probably not

[cyan frigate]

current temp is 39 C though so rn its fine

high temp might be from when I transferred about 2 TB of data onto it all at once

[torpid adder]

hmm

should get a fan

slap on the drive

big cools

[cyan frigate]

There's vents on the side of the external. Rigging a fan to it should be simple.

[red jay]

What’s best 1tb+ ssd

Mostly games and some development things will be on it

[sour wadi]

Pilot e or p31 depending on budget

[red jay]

They have a $20 difference

Lol

But thanks

[dusk turtle]

P31 is as fast as they get, Pilot E if you want a more budget oriented drive

[red jay]

I’ll buy a p31 then

[olive wadi]

intel optane p5800x

[blazing musk]

I suppose lacking context yes 1.6TB of optane is the fastest, but it also costs $3600 and is not practical for daily users

[olive wadi]

yes but he asked for the best

[red jay]

Yes Yes, I worded my question wrong or maybe should have said for under $200

I’ll be going with a p31 for now

[red jay]

intel optane p5800x

[fallow crescent]

Mushkin pilot e is good

Mp34

unsure if you mean nvme though

[dusk turtle]

Don't forget the Hynix P31 Gold

[sour wadi]

Sn750 is not great, bad mixed io i would take out of that list it's mixed io gets beat by the sn550 according to neweggs storage genius ™

[fallow crescent]

Ah, gotcha

The 980 is so expensive

[sour wadi]

980 gets beat by p31 sooo literally no point

[olive wadi]

DEPENDS ON USE CASE

would still use SN750 for workstation use over SN550

but would still buy p31 gold over sn750

but would still buy p5800x over p31 gold

but would still buy enermax revolution DF over p5800x

[sour wadi]

Wait what? That's a psu

[sour wadi]

I meant gets beaten in rand mixed io, and p31 is like same prices as 750 so

[fallow crescent]

[loud estuary]

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E2T0B-AM/dp/B010QD6W9I
anyone have data on this drive? I found a deal but it's not on the master sheet and I want to know the specs

[thorn widget]

is it from amazon/samsung

[loud estuary]

It's a Samsung 850 Evo

2tb\

[thorn widget]

I'd say trust it, though I would get a 900 series. It is a little bit more, but you'll get more out of it

[loud estuary]

well yes but I want to know the specs. Dram, TLC/QLC etc

[thorn widget]

Ohh, I'd suggest checking like PC part picker or something like that. I do not know it off the top of my head

[sour wadi]

pc part picker wont tell you much tbf

[sour wadi]

what price are they giving and why you want a 2tb ssd?

[thorn widget]

Yea I'd only get that if you are getting no Internal

[sour wadi]

that is an internal

[thorn widget]

jesus im dumb today

[sour wadi]

its fine lol

[thorn widget]

sorry I hit my head a couple days ago and got a concussion

[loud estuary]

$180 used, I want it because I have limited ports in my laptop and need space for programs (loading times matter ik hhds are fine)

[sour wadi]

thats the price of a brand new 2tb drive

[loud estuary]

TLC & DRAM?

[sour wadi]

do you have any m.2 ports?

[loud estuary]

Full

[sour wadi]

okay lemme see what i can find on pcpp

[loud estuary]

thx m8

[sour wadi]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Mtprxr/western-digital-0-25-2000000rpm-internal-hard-drive-wds200t2b0a

its in windshields list

so, good

[loud estuary]

oh yea, I must have missed that, thx

[sour wadi]

np

[arctic turret]

my 500gb m2 ssd is coming in the mail tomorrow

do i need to remove any of my sata devices to make it work?

[real lava]

no

Sata doesn't take pcie lanes

[dusk turtle]

Actually, some boards disable SATA slots if you install an NVME. it's a thing :/ Mostly Intel boards though.

[real lava]

Huh, wow

That's some bullcrap

[dusk turtle]

Well, intel doesn't have the PCI-E lanes that AMD does

So when you hook an M.2 to the chipset, it costs you something

[real lava]

Ah

Fair enough lol

[dusk turtle]

I think some AMD boards do it too, B450 boards maybe? Can't remember for sure

[blazing musk]

Especially Intel boards that like to put 3x M.2 slots but have a lot less lanes to work with

[minor sun]

Well, it seems that rust is one of the few games that can use the seq speeds of a NVMe drive

[arctic tusk]

cant wait for direct storage. l will be cool to have fast IO. Can't wait. Good time to be alive

[blazing musk]

You want the fastest possible storage? Get a server with 2TB of memory and run a ram cache drive

[sour wadi]

Yeah it can happen to some b450 and i think the odd b550 too

[meager spire]

definitely usually the last SATA ports. Descovered it recently when installing a nvme on the Asus B450 Tuf Gaming.

[pallid orchid]

X570 doesnt iirc

[blazing musk]

X570 has more lanes so it shouldn't unless they used those for something else. X570 should be avoided for high end stuff though.

[pallid orchid]

what do you mean?

[blazing musk]

VRM is usually inferior to B550 boards since the X570 came out first. The older VRM design on the X570 boards can be problematic. There's exceptions of course.

Plus the chipset fan is annoying

[meager spire]

from the manual of my x570 tomahawk. M2 drives and SATA have dedicated lanes

[meager spire]

ill be honest with you. I have NEVER seen my VRM fan spin up

[blazing musk]

Its mere existence is annoying

And some boards use cheap, loud fans

[pallid orchid]

My aorus elite is good for a 5950x tbh

[meager spire]

yeah, but one should not get a cheap X570 board

[blazing musk]

That's one of the exceptions lol

[pallid orchid]

yep thats what I thought

[sour wadi]

There are new revised x570 chipsets it seems, asrock is branding it as x570s or something

[blazing musk]

Yeah those are mostly leaks at this point but mostly confirmed. It's not an official spec, just a partner revision.

They won't have the fan at least, and it'll use less power for the north bridge.

[heavy dagger]

Would you buy a used 4tb Seagate barracuda drive for $50 to use as the second "game drive" in a PC?

Got someone I'm talking to on a marketplace that has one in a bundle of other hardware.

[sour wadi]

I mean that's the price of a new 2tb drive so yeah if i needed the storage

[heavy dagger]

Building a rig for a friend and we are skimping out on storage to start to keep costs down. Just a 500g m.2 and whatever HDDs I can wrangle up

[meager spire]

thats pefectly fine. I run a SSD for OS, and all my games sit on an HDD. my load times are only slightly longer than my wife who has all her games on an ssd

[red jay]

Can someone help... I might need to do a recovery reset on my pc....I updated a raid driver yesterday thinking I needed it when I'm using nmve , anyways after the cpu reset it goes into a recovery screen and asks me to configure bios I did default bios and still won't boot past the bios..... what can I do to fix it.

[pallid orchid]

switch on csm and togle what nvme is set as in sata settings

sata on raid instead of ahci

[meager spire]

have you tried clearing the cmos?

[pallid orchid]

nvme raid on or off

[red jay]

I switched those

No I have not I dont even know how to do that

[sour wadi]

@heavy dagger 500gb should be fine, you can always add more storage later

[heavy dagger]

Yeah that's where I'm at with it. Just debating if a used drive is worth it lol. Gotta buy it with a bunch of other items in a lot. 16gb ddr3 & a bunch of smaller 2.5" drives. Wondering how hard it will be to flip the rest in the lot

[pallid orchid]

My first pc had a 10GB HDD and we used to use tons of floppy disks

[sour wadi]

Nah i wouldn't pay more than 50$ for a used 4tb especially if you gotta pay for ddr3 ram too

[sour wadi]

Nice, i was just a toddler at that stage probs lol

[pallid orchid]

Oh absolutely the same here

I just remember a ton of things since I was 3

[sour wadi]

Nice lol

[sour wadi]

We didn't have a pc till i was like 8 or 9 i think

[pallid orchid]

We had a pc since before I was born.. how old are you btw?

[sour wadi]

19 lol

We had a laptop when i was small but no desktop for at least a few years after

[pallid orchid]

My dad was into mmorpgs when I was born so we had PC

Im 18 btw

[sour wadi]

Ahh i see

[sour wadi]

My grandad had pcs since my parents were young but i don't remember growing up with one for a while

[sweet nova]

2 questions, why would a usb to sata adapter be limited to only working with 2.5" drives, and could i take a sata cable off of it and plug that into a drive while using the sata power from a PSU?

[real lava]

The thing is that 2.5" drives sips power, so they could be powered off of USB alone, but 3.5" ones requires adapters that takes external power due to higher power consumption, I'm not sure if ones that transmits data thru usb but takes power through sata power from the PSU exists tho

[blazing musk]

There's USB adapters that can power a 3.5" sata drive like that, but they all have external power for the larger drives.

You should be able to power it from an active PSU no problem, just don't plug it in while it's on. Shorts happen a lot that way.

[sweet nova]

my thought is to use something like this, plug a sata 7-pin into it, run that to the drive, and then use the psu sata power to to power the drives and getting rid of any need to draw the power from usb or an adapter

my only real concern is that the drive wont register if im ignoring the power pins on this thing

annoyingly enough you cant find a usb3 to sata 7-pin adapter anywhere

[sour wadi]

Smol

[upper quiver]

this will work with 2.5inch HDDs and SSDs

[real lava]

^

Not 3.5" ones sadly

[blazing musk]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1B0-012G-00007
This one will work for all 2.5" and 3.5" drives, you could probably even plug in a blu ray drive. External powered.

[sweet nova]

but if that is only due to the power requirements couldnt i just hijackthe 7 pin with a sata data and then ignore all the power pins on the adapter?

[blazing musk]

You'd have to cut the adapter so the pins are exposed and hope the circuit board isn't in the part you need to cut off. The power and data are fixed in place.

[sweet nova]

why cut it though if i can just use a 7 pin sata M/F cable between the adapter and drive?

[rare harness]

... at this point wouldn't it be safer to just get a hard drive enclosure that's compatible with 3.5" drives?

[blazing musk]

Take a closer look. You can't plug in the adapter without using both the data and power ports.

Or just use the adapter I linked (or similar one) that has external power

[sweet nova]

yeah i may do that, its an issue of price as well as i hate using all those power bricks

[dense merlin]

is the pny cs900 a decent ssd?

[sour wadi]

Don't trust pny

They changing their ssds constantly under the same name v sus

[dense merlin]

oof

my build came witht one

just anyother way they screwed me over, fun times

[sour wadi]

Should be fine if you already have the change was recent iirc

[pearl saddle]

Hey if i have windows 10 installed on a 1tb m.2 can i move it to a 500gb. I want the 500 gb for a boot drive

[sour wadi]

Yes but why?

[pearl saddle]

I want the 1tb for games and the 500gb for programs and windows

plus my 500 gb is faster

[sour wadi]

Ahh

I followed jayz 2 cents tutorial on it

When moving sata to nvme

Just as long as there's not more than 500gb on your 1tb

[pearl saddle]

no it just has windows

which video?

[sour wadi]

Ehhh was posted in December iirc

Was like how to clone windows r sum

[pearl saddle]

i know that video

but is there a way to not clone cause i want one drive to have it not 2 drives

[sour wadi]

Huh?

Just format the other drive after copied over

[pearl saddle]

that will make the 500gb the boot drive? and wipe the other one

?

Also wondering if i do i factory reset wit the new drive installed can i choose which one is the boot drive?

[sour wadi]

It will copy the 1tb to the 500gb drive so you can then format the 1tb and then you'll have 500gb boot drive and 1tb drive empty for storage

[sour wadi]

Don't think so

[pearl saddle]

ok so after i do that should I go into the bios and select it as the secondary or primary boot drive

[sour wadi]

Just select your 500gb drive in the bios

Then you can format the 1tb one and it will be wiped

[pearl saddle]

ok ill try that

[olive wadi]

every non vertically integrated ssd manufacture ever

[steady talon]

What are some good PCie 4 m.2 drives? I’m currently looking at the Sabrent Rocket

And the WD black SN 850

[dusk turtle]

None. Hynix P31 Gold if you want a fast drive. The fast sequential numbers of the PCI-E gen 4 drives are just big numbers

[steady talon]

Really?

[dusk turtle]

yes

[steady talon]

If it’s like that what’s the point of the fast sequential numbers?

[dusk turtle]

The only thing Gen 4 drives are good for right now to 99% of people is emptying their wallets

Random is more important than sequential

This is just a day to day machine, gaming, browsing, editing videos or something right?

[steady talon]

Intensive CAD work and rendering

[dusk turtle]

So, for copying the files themselves, Sequential. For actually working in the program, Random IO

I have a feeling oyu'll be working in the program more than shuffling files from one drive to another

[steady talon]

Yeah only time I’m moving files is moving MAPs into the program so not often

So I should focus on higher random IO?

Also my current SSD is some cheap intel 660p 250gb

[dusk turtle]

IMO, I'd prioritize Random IO more than sequential

[steady talon]

I’m assuming anything would be an upgrade over it?

[dusk turtle]

Ya

Lemme check something tho

[steady talon]

Ok thanks

So it ain’t worth buying 2 1Tb Sabrent rockets for ~200

[dusk turtle]

PCIE 4?

[steady talon]

Yeah

[dusk turtle]

Lemme ping someone, @olive wadi drive master. Best drive for CAD and actual work?

[olive wadi]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[pallid orchid]

You good mate?

[olive wadi]

p31 gold is your best option without breaking the bank

[pallid orchid]

That was an unusually long hmmmmmmmmmmmm

[dusk turtle]

I guess right for once XD

[olive wadi]

p31 gold is too good at everything for its price 😴

[dusk turtle]

Indeed

I regret my dual Sabrent Rockets I bought last year now :/

[steady talon]

Ahh ok thanks

[clear lantern]

Hey I’m trying to put together an external drive for my new series S I was wondering what the best option would be (yes I am aware that series X/S doesn’t support external drives for X/S titles. This drive is for my backwards compatible games) I’m looking to squeeze as much speed out of the usb 3 ports on it

[jovial cypress]

Any suggestion on some storage or raid storage for NVMEs, since i lack the slot for extra nvmes.

[stoic mountain]

how is the 660p?

[dusk turtle]

Slow

[stoic mountain]

:/

sn550 would be better, right?

[dusk turtle]

Yes but for $100 get a Mushkin Pilot E

Spanks both of them

Unless 500 GB

If 500 GB, SN550 for price

[stoic mountain]

not great price up here

[dusk turtle]

Ah

Hmmm

here's a quick and dirty guide then #storage-devices message

[floral sun]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C8Y31G1/ref=twister_B08KGF1DPF?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 Anyone know the last time this has been in stock?

[sour wadi]

Don't get a 970, get a pilot e instead

[lean niche]

Is there a way to select what drives I set up for raid in bios? Or do I have to use them all

[sour wadi]

What drives do you want to raid and why?

[lean niche]

2 laptop drives I had sitting around, they are wd blue

Just for faster stuff I don’t own any ssd’s

[real lava]

That's.. risky

[lean niche]

Hmm?

[real lava]

You'll raid 0 em and raid 0 is dangerous

[lean niche]

Because if one dies they all do

Right?

[real lava]

Once one of the drives in the array fails, your data's gone, yes

[lean niche]

I don’t really care I don’t store important data on my drive

[real lava]

If that's so, I'll try to help on that

[lean niche]

Thx

[real lava]

I don't think all mobos has raid support, not sure

[lean niche]

Mine has the setting in bios

[real lava]

Sometimes you might need a raid card, afaik

Oh

Then it supports it

[lean niche]

But, it won’t let me pick my drives

It’s all or nothing

[real lava]

I sadly have zero raid knowledge, sorry lol

[lean niche]

Cuz if it set it to raid instead of ahci(I forgot the acronym so if I have the letters wrong sry lol) all my drives disappear

[lean niche]

It’s cool dw

[sour wadi]

https://www.techradar.com/how-to/how-to-combine-multiple-hard-drives-in-raid-0-using-windows-10s-storage-spaces-feature#:~:text=Windows 10 doesn't call,'Manage Storage Spaces'%20label. This should be able to help

[lean niche]

got it

[sonic frigate]

finally received my 8TB hard drive and its amazing thanks @blazing musk for the recomendation

[floral sun]

@sour wadi Link for it? Can't seem to find it

[pallid orchid]

Link for?

[sour wadi]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/JHxbt6/mushkin-pilot-e-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mknssdpe1tb-d8

[sour wadi]

The pilot e recommendation like 12 hrs ago lol

[sour wadi]

Idk a lot of ppl have been using @'s instead of replies on disc recently ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[floral sun]

Ye sorry about that went to sleep and forgot I asked about it

[sour wadi]

It's fine lol

[pallid orchid]

Yep

[red jay]

do most pcs come with extra sata and power cables for drives already laying around in the case?

[dusk turtle]

Prebuilt PC's?

[red jay]

Yes,

[dusk turtle]

usually they do, yeah, because they tend to not use modular power supplies

Or it will be a string of 5-6 sata power connectors and only one being used and 4-5 empty

[real lava]

^

[leaden void]

I don't have a gaming pc but I use a 5TB external hard drive for my ps4 xD

[bitter tree]

980 evo over 970 evo plus for nas?

any alternatives

[dusk turtle]

NVME?

[minor sun]

What will you be using it for

Constant rw?

[bitter tree]

plex cache, nas stuff

maybe a mc server on it

[minor sun]

For sustained, P31 seems to still be the best xD

And ofc p31 has really nice rnd performance

To quote Tom's hardware,

Listed at just $75 and $135 for the 500GB and 1TB models, respectively, the Gold P31 is a fantastic value that will make you think twice about spending that extra $25-$50 on the Samsung 970 EVO Plus.

[bitter tree]

probably gonna go with 250gb evo plus

hmmmmm

[blazing musk]

250GB is small. SSDs tend to work better when they're larger because physics. 500GB is the smallest I'd consider for any drive.

[olive wadi]

1tb chart pls

[minor sun]

@olive wadi Tom's hardware only had numbers for 980 500gb, no 980 1tb, so yea

[plush crag]

500gb nvme benchmarks seem kinda irrelevant given current prices

Line you either buy the cheapest 500 or you actually need the performance of whatever 1tb you get

[scenic crescent]

whats the best storage set up

like a low ssd just for windows and a high ssd or hdd for other/

?

[red jay]

I am having Dell Inspiron 15 5558 laptop and planning to change my HDD to ssd, I want to know whether SAMSUNG 870 EVO Series 2.5" 500GB SATA III V-NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MZ-77E500B/AM will fit or not

[red jay]

would my 5400rpm hard drive be good for games?

[sour wadi]

Depends on budget and use case, but a good ssd for windows and common programs then hdd for mass storage usually

[sour wadi]

Depends on the specific drive

[scenic crescent]

open build, avrage person spending 2.5k

[sour wadi]

Huh?

[lost willow]

my system won't post and there is a red light on my ssd

any ideas?

[sour wadi]

Can you send a pic, also any lights on your motherboard?

[lost willow]

yes

there

[sour wadi]

Is there writing beside this one? If not what motherboard is it?

Ehh thd ssd look like it might be under it or something

I don't think ssds usually have LEDs

[dusk turtle]

What CPU is in the B560?

Cuz if 10th gen, the top NVME slot won't work

It's a B560M-Plus Wifi Asus

@lost willow

[real lava]

https://youtu.be/Eay03irT8mY

Damn

These things has seagate exos

[lost willow]

I know

I have a 11th gen

it won't work in the other slot either

[dusk turtle]

Which LED Is on on the motherboard?

[lost willow]

the orange one

[dusk turtle]

Is it one that says VRAM, CPU, BOOT or VGA?

[lost willow]

umm

1 sec

[dusk turtle]

Orange doesn't help, sorry, manual doesn't list colors

[lost willow]

ok

Dram

thats the prob

that's the one with the light

[lost willow]

DRAM

[dusk turtle]

Ok, that's a whole nother issue

Single stick of ram needs to go in slot A2

From the CPU left to right

empty, ram, empty empty

Ignore the red SSD light

[lost willow]

ok

I put it in slot a1 and b1 and it works now

[dusk turtle]

Hmmm, should be A2 B2

Otherwise XMP may not work