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untold grove Feb 10, 2021, 1:47 PM

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as expected, it was hgst and toshiba on top and seagate dead last

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by a p big margin

minor sun Feb 10, 2021, 2:07 PM

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@untold grove just wait until WD goes back in and WD failure rates skyrocket beyond Seagate >:D

untold grove Feb 10, 2021, 2:09 PM

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true wd enterprise drives are uhh

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interesting

minor sun Feb 10, 2021, 2:09 PM

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Didn't they use WD drives till like 2019, and the rates were really high?

dusk turtle Feb 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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Did you see the Toshiba 4 TB stats? LIke, 0% for a couple quarters now.

untold grove Feb 10, 2021, 2:52 PM

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yeah

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toshiba is pog

olive wadi Feb 10, 2021, 4:27 PM

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so what you're saying is that my exos is going to spontaneously combust taking my favorite episodes of everybody loves raymond with it?

untold grove Feb 10, 2021, 4:29 PM

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olive wadi so what you're saying is that my exos is going to spontaneously combust taking m...

yes

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keeeek

olive wadi Feb 10, 2021, 4:33 PM

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😔

olive wadi Feb 10, 2021, 4:34 PM

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untold grove <:keeeek:591379457017774090>

what are your thoughts on "4D" PUC NAND

lean quest Feb 11, 2021, 4:52 AM

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@untold grove meg 490 mobo and 970 should be nvme, right? As far as I can tell at least. So now I'm looking more seriously at a raid card since it won't go faster with current setup and I want big numbers to show up on crystal disk

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xd

fluid delta Feb 11, 2021, 8:14 AM

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One Small question, Can i have multiple ssds using in my system, without having issues with performance ?

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Like i already have 500gb m2 now

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i am getting sata sdd 500gb as a gift

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and later if i buy another 500gb

untold grove Feb 11, 2021, 8:28 AM

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fluid delta One Small question, Can i have multiple ssds using in my system, without having ...

yes

fluid delta Feb 11, 2021, 8:33 AM

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Thank you

vocal plume Feb 11, 2021, 7:43 PM

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https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B450-I-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#kf
will a 970 evo nvme fit on this board?, it seems to long but never actually need one in person to verify if there is enough room on the board...

GIGABYTE

B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI (rev. 1.0) Key Features | Motherboard - GIGAB...

Lasting Quality from GIGABYTE.GIGABYTE Ultra Durable™ motherboards bring together a unique blend of features and technologies that offer users the absolute ...

dusk turtle Feb 11, 2021, 7:44 PM

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Yes

vocal plume Feb 11, 2021, 7:46 PM

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cool, just looks like the drive is bigger than it actually is lol

dusk turtle Feb 11, 2021, 7:46 PM

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They do

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WHen you get one in your hands you realize just how tiny they really are

vocal plume Feb 11, 2021, 7:47 PM

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u think ill notice a different compared to the 850 evo ssd?

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seems like the read speeds are faster

dusk turtle Feb 11, 2021, 7:47 PM

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Honestly, no. How often do you write big old files?

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Loading times are not a whole lot better

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Couple seconds maybe

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You would only notice a difference if you had two NVME drives and were writing files from one to the other

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because the slowest data point will always restrict things

vocal plume Feb 11, 2021, 7:49 PM

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sounds good, i didnt think they were vastly different but was just curious. havent used one yet. might be beneficial in the future if i go to a smaller build to save space in the chassis

dusk turtle Feb 11, 2021, 7:50 PM

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Yes or if you're moving large files around. however, moving files from SATA to NVME will always be SATA speeds

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Boot and load times might be 1-3 seconds faster

vocal plume Feb 11, 2021, 7:50 PM

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havent made the leap to actual SFX builds. iv had the NZXT 210i and now im on too the NR200p

dusk turtle Feb 11, 2021, 7:50 PM

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not a whole lot, not like going from a platter drive to SSD

vocal plume Feb 11, 2021, 7:51 PM

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yes i had the older hard drive on my laptop and put a 850 in it and it woke that thing up. get a few more years out of it

dusk turtle Feb 11, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Absolutely!

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If it were a brand new build, I'd say go for it. Or if you're OK with $100 for a drive that will only slightly speed things up, it won't hurt

vocal plume Feb 11, 2021, 7:55 PM

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ya lol, i used to wait like 15 mins for chrome to load after a long start up on my laptop.... for my next desktop build ill go nvme. and maybe a smaller case. i really want to try a custom loop in the case i have now, just to experience it, even if its overkill and a waste of time

dusk turtle Feb 11, 2021, 7:56 PM

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Heck yeah, do it!

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I haven't yet but want to some day

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I just have an AIO

vocal plume Feb 11, 2021, 7:57 PM

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same, i have it not positioned the correct way either but i wanted to show off my GPU. so i will have to change my config if i did a custom loop

dusk turtle Feb 11, 2021, 7:57 PM

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My GPU is vert mount in the front. I think it would look neat with a custom loop

vocal plume Feb 11, 2021, 7:59 PM

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i have the radiator on the bottom pulling air up and the GPU vertically mounted on top if it facing the glass

olive wadi Feb 11, 2021, 9:25 PM

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vocal plume https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/B450-I-AORUS-PRO-WIFI-rev-10#kf will a ...

buy different ssd 💃

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970 evo will fit but dont buy 970 evo 🕺

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📎 GAMEZOIDS_SSD_guide_WIP.txt

plush crag Feb 11, 2021, 9:52 PM

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Is a .txt really the best way to share that?

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Can you just use google docs like everyone else?

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Or at least pastebin

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ah yes

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📎 unknown.png

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time to buy another 905p

olive wadi Feb 11, 2021, 10:48 PM

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plush crag Can you just use google docs like everyone else?

No.

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Too easy

minor sun Feb 11, 2021, 10:52 PM

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smh just use .docx

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 1:31 AM

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minor sun smh just use .docx

No

untold grove Feb 12, 2021, 1:49 AM

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plush crag Can you just use google docs like everyone else?

please dont host text on google docs lmfao

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i dont want that garbage cluttering my google account forever

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keeeek

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pastebin nice

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imagine not hosting your own pastebin tho

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cringe

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 3:39 AM

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achieve storage i must

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untold grove Feb 12, 2021, 4:07 AM

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inb4 drive gets crunchy after a year

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 1:12 PM

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untold grove inb4 drive gets crunchy after a year

🥴

untold grove Feb 12, 2021, 1:13 PM

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u know it will

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got that seagate g r i t

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 1:14 PM

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untold grove got that seagate g r i t

the exos x16 has no warranty on it 😎

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going in

untold grove Feb 12, 2021, 3:21 PM

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keeeek

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 4:10 PM

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untold grove <:keeeek:591379457017774090>

using it as parity so 🥴

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whenever i get a second parity im probably going to look at an hgst drive or whatever they are called

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diversify my bonds 😎

minor sun Feb 12, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Hgst used

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 4:18 PM

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hopefully by the time these drives have failed it's time to switch to all solid state 😎

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3-5 years for consoomer 3dxpoint return pls

nimble robin Feb 12, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Solid state is advancing rapidly

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Can’t wait for the time when it’s completely replaced hard drives

quiet sparrow Feb 12, 2021, 6:52 PM

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how good is the a2000 compared to the P2

untold grove Feb 12, 2021, 6:53 PM

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both of them are bleg

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since

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a2000 is like same cost as mp34

quiet sparrow Feb 12, 2021, 6:53 PM

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i told em that

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its in euros so its worse

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but i said $ euro for a 970 evo which was the cheapest is better and they got all pissy

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cheaper than mp34 and sn750

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 7:57 PM

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quiet sparrow how good is the a2000 compared to the P2

Better.

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@untold grove https://isanek.com/shop/product/45297016/1?utm_content=PCPartPicker&utm_campaign=15&ranMID=46412&ranEAID=8BacdVP0GFs&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-qvEcMdaw5qQB8OS10ABVSQ thoughts

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its in CAD

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 8:08 PM

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quiet sparrow how good is the a2000 compared to the P2

what country ill see whats good

quiet sparrow Feb 12, 2021, 8:08 PM

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what'

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its not for me

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just fact chcking someone

untold grove Feb 12, 2021, 8:09 PM

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theyre both bad imo

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id just look at speed tests

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 8:09 PM

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untold grove theyre both bad imo

depends on the pricepoints, P2 is good when it's priced appropriately

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it's just another e13t drive lol

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 8:09 PM

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quiet sparrow just fact chcking someone

yes a2000 is better

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the a2000 is this weird inbetween mid end and low end nvme ssds

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p2 is low end

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but it's still good

untold grove Feb 12, 2021, 8:10 PM

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i mean idk

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i dont consider anything less than mp34 like

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good good

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just passable

plush crag Feb 12, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Plays fortnite real good

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 8:26 PM

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untold grove i dont consider anything less than mp34 like

consoomer gamers aren't going to notice the difference

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pilot-E often a better deal than the mp34

untold grove Feb 12, 2021, 8:26 PM

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meh

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i dont tell ppl to get stuff that i wouldnt put in my own system

olive wadi Feb 12, 2021, 8:30 PM

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untold grove i dont tell ppl to get stuff that i wouldnt put in my own system

i mean me neither 😎

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I'd buy a pilot-E over the MP34, but I might end up buying a CS3030 for my server because of canada pricing

minor sun Feb 13, 2021, 12:25 AM

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I mean, lili, you still haven't gotten a mp34 for testing yet >:D

Although with the frequency of me suggesting mp34, and the lack of complaints, it seems p nice

olive wadi Feb 13, 2021, 2:04 AM

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minor sun I mean, lili, you still haven't gotten a mp34 for testing yet >:D Although with...

reject mp34

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embrace pilot-E

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reject phison E12

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embrace SM2262EN

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just reject sm2258*

minor sun Feb 13, 2021, 2:10 AM

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lol

warm jungle Feb 13, 2021, 5:08 AM

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Hey, I'm trying to recover data on my old pc's, I have old pictures, and important files on there. Aslong as the hdd's aren't dead or corrupt how would I hook it up to my current pc? Would I just be able to use one of those sata looking cables to it then my motherboard?

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Then boot it in windows?

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Its a windows 7 or earlier.

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Yeah, just power down the PC, connect the sata and power cable, start the PC up and you should be able to read it in Windows just like any other drive

warm jungle Feb 13, 2021, 5:10 AM

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ah perfect.

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Thanks.

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 5:10 AM

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YW

warm jungle Feb 13, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Then I can just download it to a random usb?

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The files*

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Yup

warm jungle Feb 13, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Perfect,

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Thank you so much.

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 5:10 AM

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It'll work just like any other storage drive

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YW

warm jungle Feb 13, 2021, 5:11 AM

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I might actually wipe it and use it for personal uses once I take the stuff I need from it

red jay Feb 13, 2021, 5:12 AM

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olive wadi just reject sm2258*

Reject all controllers, embrace phison s11

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 5:12 AM

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Just format it in Disk Management

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If you try and manually delete, it won't let you delete some system files

small steppeBOT Feb 13, 2021, 5:24 AM

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windshields#9982 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

olive wadi Feb 13, 2021, 5:25 AM

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lol cant say that word

olive wadi Feb 13, 2021, 5:25 AM

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red jay Reject all controllers, embrace phison s11

phison s11 is the chronic jaundice of ssd controllers

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tbh phison 11 as low performance as it is i don't think it's too unreliable

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it just happens to be the controller of choice for garbage drives which use planar nand

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 4:04 PM

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Would assume this is the right channel... but found an amazing deal for an HP ProLiant DL380E wanted to see if it seemds a bit too good.

2x E5-2450 (8c16t each)
12x 8gb DDR3 (ECC 1033mhz)
4x 2tb SAS 6GBPS
1x 1tb SATA 6GBPS (System Drive)
= $425

thick mulch Feb 13, 2021, 4:06 PM

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What would u use ot for @keen lantern ?

minor sun Feb 13, 2021, 4:06 PM

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Sounds like a fun server

thick mulch Feb 13, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Gameing Will be a little tough

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I want at least 2.5 ghz for gaming on a xeon

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That is a 2ghz

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 4:07 PM

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thick mulch What would u use ot for <@!483656772918181889> ?

Web Server, Multiplayer Gaming Servers, etc. Not going to be gaming directly on it.

thick mulch Feb 13, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Ok, not bad steal then

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Yea, might try running a mobile Gaming PC just for fun. Might not be the best experience but will be better than my 5th gen i3 laptop

thick mulch Feb 13, 2021, 4:08 PM

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You could pick up a xeon combo on aliexpress that might be a but better tho

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Also if you really want to you could slap a 1050ti in there and see if it shreds

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 4:09 PM

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Exactly, I have an old RX 580 lying around was going to throw that in there and have a very nice mobile gaming server. Instead of paying for Stadia or whatever other services there are out there I could just have my own

untold grove Feb 13, 2021, 4:12 PM

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keen lantern Would assume this is the right channel... but found an amazing deal for an HP Pr...

hpe is kinda like

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ehhh

untold grove Feb 13, 2021, 4:12 PM

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keen lantern Exactly, I have an old RX 580 lying around was going to throw that in there and ...

lol i did this

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lmk if u need help doing it

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cause it was hella fun

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Would a Dell R520 (same specs) for $422 be better @untold grove?

untold grove Feb 13, 2021, 4:14 PM

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i mean sort of?

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can u get a 720

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 4:14 PM

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That would be closer to like $550

untold grove Feb 13, 2021, 4:14 PM

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lililabs runs on like 50+ r720s lol

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reason why i ask is cause the r520 chassis is not the best for gpu

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iirc

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and

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 4:15 PM

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But either way $422 for a 16c32t 96gb server with 8tb of SAS storage isn't bad

untold grove Feb 13, 2021, 4:15 PM

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r720 can do 2 slot gpu

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2x 2 slot actually i think

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Yea just looked at the R720 looks to be $200 more than the R520. To me doesn't make a lot of sense. I can always find a R720 case down the line

untold grove Feb 13, 2021, 4:17 PM

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its the board too

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iirc less ram and stuff

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 4:19 PM

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The R520 can do 384GB while the R720 can do 768GB. But I don't see myself needing 300gb let alone almost 800gb

untold grove Feb 13, 2021, 4:52 PM

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then

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r520 might be fine

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make sure it does gpu

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if it does

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then expx

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ezpz

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ur doing it as a vm host?

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@keen lantern

olive wadi Feb 13, 2021, 6:04 PM

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thick mulch I want at least 2.5 ghz for gaming on a xeon

yes lets ignore ipc between architectural generations 😎

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 6:07 PM

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untold grove ur doing it as a vm host?

Not totally sure just a thought on what to do with it

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But most likley a Virtual Machine

untold grove Feb 13, 2021, 6:09 PM

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yeah i mean

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ideally u need lotsa vms

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to have a good time

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 6:14 PM

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Yea 16c32t i should be fine

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Just 3x R5 systems basically

charred talon Feb 13, 2021, 6:28 PM

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nvme m.2 storage, brand or unbranded, big price diff

untold grove Feb 13, 2021, 6:29 PM

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keen lantern Just 3x R5 systems basically

not at all lol

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iirc all those cores/threads still get whipped by a ryzen 7 3700x

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like

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lililabs uses those cpus because it makes sense to have lots of slower cores since i spread them out among clients

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but

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id never try to game on them tbh

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make sure whatever hypervisor youre using is numa aware

red jay Feb 13, 2021, 7:46 PM

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Is it possible to add a m.2 SSD in the WWAN slot in a HP Mini 1101?

keen lantern Feb 13, 2021, 8:04 PM

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red jay Is it possible to add a m.2 SSD in the WWAN slot in a HP Mini 1101?

From a quick google search seems like you can.

olive wadi Feb 13, 2021, 8:04 PM

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network m.2 key generally not compatible with storage devices but 🤷

red jay Feb 13, 2021, 8:04 PM

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PCIe or msata?

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 8:05 PM

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network M.2 keyed differently than drives.....

olive wadi Feb 13, 2021, 8:05 PM

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doesnt seem like thats happening

📎 M.png

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that's a B-key

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I suppose a B/M would fit, don't think it'd work though.

torpid adder Feb 13, 2021, 8:06 PM

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olive wadi

Mini PCIe

olive wadi Feb 13, 2021, 8:06 PM

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lol you're right that it isn't an m.2 connector i dont think

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mpcie time

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 8:06 PM

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olive wadi lol you're right that it isn't an m.2 connector i dont think

Too many pins

olive wadi Feb 13, 2021, 8:06 PM

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sadge

minor sun Feb 13, 2021, 8:06 PM

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Yea that looks like mini pcie

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 8:07 PM

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minor sun Yea that looks like mini pcie

It is lol

torpid adder Feb 13, 2021, 8:08 PM

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I don't remember if I've ever seen Mini PCIe on gaming/consumer boards

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Only on OEM boards

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Pretty sure the WiFi card on my x570 is mini PCI-E

torpid adder Feb 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Oo

red jay Feb 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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what if it is 8 pins wide?

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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What if what is 8 pins wide?

red jay Feb 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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the key

torpid adder Feb 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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What board is it?

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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red jay the key

not compatible with drives

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Sata nor NVME M.2's

red jay Feb 13, 2021, 8:09 PM

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ah, I have a SATA 2.5" anyway

warm jungle Feb 13, 2021, 8:33 PM

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I lost my sata cables for my hdd ;-;

torpid adder Feb 13, 2021, 9:21 PM

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Rip

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Order some more

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I got a 12 pack for like 9 dollars I think

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Idr

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Also @dusk turtle looks like X570 WiFi slots are m.2 from looking at pc part picker

blazing musk Feb 13, 2021, 9:53 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/Express-Adapter-Converter-Support-MPCIe/dp/B00N2PRRA6

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Something like this might work, it supports up to a 2242 M.2 but there's larger ones

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 9:54 PM

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not quite. That's not for drives either. It's for converting to M.2 Socket SSIC-based WWAN Module

blazing musk Feb 13, 2021, 9:57 PM

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Hmm. In theory something similar would work as long as BIOS can handle it (which most laptops probably couldn't)
https://www.amazon.com/NGFF-nVME-Mini-PCIe-Adapter/dp/B07KX7JZYK

dusk turtle Feb 13, 2021, 10:05 PM

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I think the issue would be a B+M NVME

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Do they even make those still?

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Ahh, i see, different adapter

torpid adder Feb 13, 2021, 10:44 PM

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Intel ones are like that

olive wadi Feb 13, 2021, 10:50 PM

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dusk turtle Do they even make those still?

A few still exist

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SN500/SN520 off the top of my head

crisp belfry Feb 14, 2021, 7:24 PM

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Anyone else get really annoyed by newegg's scummy "sales"? It's literally at MSRP, better get it quick before the 0% off sale ends on Monday.

📎 newegg.PNG

red jay Feb 14, 2021, 7:32 PM

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this my first pc build i dont know what ssd to go with can someone help me?

crisp belfry Feb 14, 2021, 7:43 PM

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What are you using the PC for? If for gaming, what games do you plan on playing. What CPU/motherboard do you have? What's your budget?

untold grove Feb 14, 2021, 7:45 PM

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crisp belfry Anyone else get really annoyed by newegg's scummy "sales"? It's literally at MSR...

yeah its no good lol

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but technically they can list it as on sale

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as long as its at the "original price" for 2 days per year

crisp belfry Feb 14, 2021, 7:47 PM

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but that is it's original price

untold grove Feb 14, 2021, 7:49 PM

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hmm then idk

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newegg just weird

nimble robin Feb 14, 2021, 8:22 PM

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What is the difference between an qlc and tlc SSD?

dusk turtle Feb 14, 2021, 8:23 PM

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QLC typically has less TBW than TLC

nimble robin Feb 14, 2021, 8:47 PM

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TBW?

dusk turtle Feb 14, 2021, 8:51 PM

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Terabytes Written

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IE, lifespan

lavish mirage Feb 14, 2021, 8:57 PM

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@untold grove Gib rack space please I pay gud mula

nimble robin Feb 14, 2021, 9:00 PM

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Lililabs rack

minor sun Feb 14, 2021, 11:43 PM

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TLC has faster write natively

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higher lifespan, and generally a bit more expensive

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 12:46 AM

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lavish mirage <@!730975292755279933> Gib rack space please I pay gud mula

lol lililabs colo expensib

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like 300/m

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why u need colo anyways lol

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dedicated servers cooler

lavish mirage Feb 15, 2021, 4:32 AM

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untold grove like 300/m

Hm

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I must tink

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 4:37 AM

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i also do dedis

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which imo are better

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makes lililabs do all the hw maintenance

lavish mirage Feb 15, 2021, 4:38 AM

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Costs?

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 4:52 AM

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depends on specs

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lol

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and bandwidth

mental parcel Feb 15, 2021, 5:13 AM

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any recomendations for laptop storage

thick mulch Feb 15, 2021, 5:29 AM

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Samsung 860 evo if sata

mental parcel Feb 15, 2021, 5:45 AM

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ok now i just need to find a video on how to disasemble and reasemble a laptop

thick mulch Feb 15, 2021, 5:48 AM

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Its real easy

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Just unscrew all the screws on the bottom, and it pops off

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BTW most lappys only have one sata bay so your going to need to have an OS on that SSD

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And just do the swap and slap it back together

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Boom

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 6:24 AM

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mental parcel any recomendations for laptop storage

870 evo

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and ifixit is your friend

mental parcel Feb 15, 2021, 7:29 AM

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ok

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thanks'

olive wadi Feb 15, 2021, 7:55 AM

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nimble robin What is the difference between an qlc and tlc SSD?

one uses qlc nand one uses tlc nand

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😎

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describes how many bits a single flash cell represents

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qlc is denser (cheaper to impliment in high cap) but has less theororetical max endurance and worse write performance

vestal kestrel Feb 15, 2021, 8:33 AM

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do I need more RAM or more HDD? or will more RAM lessen the HDD usage?

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untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 8:54 AM

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vestal kestrel do I need more RAM or more HDD? or will more RAM lessen the HDD usage?

depends what youre doing

vestal kestrel Feb 15, 2021, 9:14 AM

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untold grove depends what youre doing

gaming and watching a vid on a different tab during loading times

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 9:14 AM

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imo u need both

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ssd and ram

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8gb is close to unusable

vestal kestrel Feb 15, 2021, 9:15 AM

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even tho I still have a hundred GB of free space?

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about the storage

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 9:15 AM

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free space doesnt matter

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storage speed matters

vestal kestrel Feb 15, 2021, 9:15 AM

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oh

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thanks for the answer 🙂

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 9:15 AM

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no prob!

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if you need ssd, 870 evo is great

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also s31 gold is gr8

pallid orchid Feb 15, 2021, 10:20 AM

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wd blue is also pretty good if u have a lower budget imo

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 10:20 AM

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meh

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it works

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id give it like 3/5

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would rather spend like $10 more

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and get a great ssd

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over an ok one

nimble robin Feb 15, 2021, 3:21 PM

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untold grove also s31 gold is gr8

Lili being polite for once flush

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 3:22 PM

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im always polite

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i just have a low tolerance for people who refuse to listen

late vector Feb 15, 2021, 3:23 PM

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yes sata ssd great

nimble robin Feb 15, 2021, 3:24 PM

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Maybe you, lili, can explain to me exactly what the difference is between TLC and QLC NAND?

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@untold grove

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 3:27 PM

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basically cramming more density into each nand module

minor sun Feb 15, 2021, 3:29 PM

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@nimble robin exactly, it's 3 bits per cell versus 4 bits per cell

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it has various differences in real operation, but on paper, that's all the difference

nimble robin Feb 15, 2021, 3:29 PM

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And what about in practice?

untold grove Feb 15, 2021, 3:29 PM

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worse perf

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and quicker to die

nimble robin Feb 15, 2021, 3:30 PM

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That’s QLC?

minor sun Feb 15, 2021, 3:30 PM

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minor sun TLC has faster write natively

back to dis part

nimble robin Feb 15, 2021, 3:30 PM

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Ok

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Fun

minor sun Feb 15, 2021, 3:31 PM

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Once you run out of cache, TLC is faster than QLC

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TLC has better endurance

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but TLC generally bit more expensive

pseudo harbor Feb 15, 2021, 8:06 PM

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@untold grove is the p5 or sandisk m.2 any good

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low-key don't wanna wait for shipping and wanna pick up one locally

minor sun Feb 15, 2021, 8:13 PM

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which sandisk

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there's like 8

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Crucial P5 pretty meh

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wack controller

pseudo harbor Feb 15, 2021, 8:16 PM

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lemme find the one on bestbuy rq

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https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-1tb-internal-pci-express-3-0-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive/6402020.p?skuId=6402020

Best Buy

SanDisk Ultra 1TB Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 (NVMe) Solid State Dr...

Shop SanDisk Ultra 1TB Internal PCI Express 3.0 x4 (NVMe) Solid State Drive at Best Buy. Find low everyday prices and buy online for delivery or in-store pick-up. Price Match Guarantee.

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if theyre bot trash ill jus wait and order a good one

minor sun Feb 15, 2021, 8:23 PM

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P5>Ultra

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P5 I'd prob place at between good and meh drives, like square in the middle between Pilot E and Helix L kinda thing

pseudo harbor Feb 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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mp34 has one day shipping

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prob will jus dothat

minor sun Feb 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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Yea

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P5 has weird controller

pseudo harbor Feb 15, 2021, 8:24 PM

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was gonna pick up a samsung evo plus but shipping

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i have to wait a day or two to get my credit then a few days for shipping and all my parts except 2 fans come tomorrow

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rip 1tb version isnt one day shipping

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sabrent any good?

minor sun Feb 15, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Just rocket is good

pseudo harbor Feb 15, 2021, 8:58 PM

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this one? https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Rocket-Internal-Performance-SB-RKTQ-1TB/dp/B07ZZYWTBP/ref=sr_1_10?crid=362BPJ6W4025E&dchild=1&dd=DRPbrh9Z6XkFe70m5lp9EA%2C%2C&keywords=m.2+ssd&qid=1613421204&refinements=p_90%3A8308921011&rnid=8308919011&s=electronics&sprefix=m.2%2Celectronics%2C228&sr=1-10

minor sun Feb 15, 2021, 11:06 PM

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No that's the rocket Q

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The one that's just Sabrent Rocket is good, usually 130$ for 1tb

kindred ether Feb 16, 2021, 1:44 AM

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@untold grove Hey lili, I hope you're well. You helped me pick out a 6 bay synology and I got 5 Easystore 8TB drives. I was able to pry the first drive out of its box - but now I'm having trouble inserting it into the synology bay. Can you help?

kindred ether Feb 16, 2021, 2:07 AM

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It has 4 metal posts - I can get one side inserted, but there isn't enough room or give to get the other side inserted. The documentation just says "insert drive"...

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 2:11 AM

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For texture streaming and storage, do I opt for a meaty 2.5'' SSD or M.2?

obsidian steeple Feb 16, 2021, 2:12 AM

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i would recommend going NVMe M.2 if you have large projects, if rather small, sata speeds are probably fine.

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 2:13 AM

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...your sentence reads weird to me.

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 2:14 AM

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I mean, how much are you looking to store, that's the main question

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 2:15 AM

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2tb at minimum; that's been my current size for my HDD.

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I have a lot of music files.

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Before I had to return the sn750, my current set up is having a 2.5 SSD as my BOOT/OS drive, my HDD as my storage drive, and my NVMe M.2 as my Game Storage drive. I do wonder if three drives is overkill.

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 2:22 AM

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So, 2tb total of SSD storage, or 2tb of storage in general? @obsidian mirage

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 2:22 AM

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SSD storage.

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 2:23 AM

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ick

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expensive

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 2:23 AM

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No kidding.

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Personally I'd see 1tb P31 + 4tb x300 as the most the average person can use xD

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and a 2tb ssd is gonna be the same cost as that

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 2:24 AM

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Then I maintain course of having an 1tb M.2 as my second storage drive.

kindred ether Feb 16, 2021, 3:02 AM

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Ha! They unscrew! Woot!

pseudo harbor Feb 16, 2021, 3:51 AM

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@minor sun ended up jus getting a sn750 at bestbuy

upper quiver Feb 16, 2021, 3:53 AM

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sn750 pog

rancid pike Feb 16, 2021, 4:02 AM

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Sn750 gang

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 4:51 AM

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Question, when putting game data on a storage drive like an HDD, and I run Steam directory via SSD, which handles the loading speed when I run a game: the HDD or the SSD?

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 4:54 AM

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The game loading time is determined by where the game data is stored

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 4:55 AM

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Making sure. If I'm buying a NVMe M.2 to store game data, I want to be sure the M.2 is doing most of the work.

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 4:55 AM

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Or just get a good sata drive since most games won't use the full bandwidth anyway

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 4:56 AM

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The sn750 WAS my good sata drive.

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 4:58 AM

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Well I'm using 2 WD blue ssd's in raid and fallout 4 loads in 4 seconds flat, so more bandwidth isn't going to help that much by this point.

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 4:59 AM

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I don't see myself buying more than 1 of the same kind of drive.

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Is there really no game out there that takes full advantage of NVMe speed, gen 3 or 4?

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 4:59 AM

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There's a couple, but they're not very popular

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 5:00 AM

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I'm curious.

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Could you name one?

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 5:05 AM

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I forget the name of it but there was a concept game I played that live streamed all the assets straight off the drive

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https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/8ka97h/psa_stop_telling_gaming_pc_builders_to_buy_nvme/?utm_source=amp&utm_medium=&utm_content=post_body

r/pcmasterrace - PSA: Stop telling gaming pc builders to buy NVMe d...

68 votes and 83 comments so far on Reddit

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I guess if you wanted to store some of the petabytes of data in flight sim it might help

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 5:09 AM

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MFS is SO a SSD game.

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 5:10 AM

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Definitely, and the reason they have to stream assets over the network is it's literally petabytes of world data and no one can possibly store all that

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So if you're hosting a server with all those assets on it, the server would certainly benefit lol

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 5:12 AM

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That's why I focus on flying across a U.S. state with low texture caching; I would have to keep my drive from being overstuffed.

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Plus flying takes forever in that game.

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 5:12 AM

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Well yeah, unless you play it like I do, more of a crash sim

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 5:13 AM

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Where's my flight equivalent of Burnout?

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 5:13 AM

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Maybe ace combat

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 5:14 AM

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Not quite the same; you said "crash sim", that's more shooty-shooty-kablooey.

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 5:14 AM

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Canyon runs are like the death star run on steroids, try flying through a mountain range a max of 100 feet above the ground level

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While being shot at by pillboxes

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 5:15 AM

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That IS fun.

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But when I think Burnout, I think "what crazy collisions can I pull off without making it look like 9/11"?

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That climax in Star Trek into Darkness, that's how I imagine such damage.

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 5:19 AM

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Ooh I know, there was this old fighter game that actually came as a demo with an older version of flight sim. Your plane would suffer actual mechanical damage based on where and how badly you were shot, up to and including spiraling to the ground missing half a wing.

obsidian mirage Feb 16, 2021, 5:20 AM

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❤️

blazing musk Feb 16, 2021, 5:23 AM

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Oh I forgot, you could even bail out and land behind enemy lines

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Fighter Ace 2, that was the name

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It came with flight sim 2002

olive wadi Feb 16, 2021, 5:34 AM

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minor sun The one that's just Sabrent Rocket is good, usually 130$ for 1tb

not a very good drive at its pricepoint

olive wadi Feb 16, 2021, 5:34 AM

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obsidian mirage 2tb at minimum; that's been my current size for my HDD.

2tb mushkin pilot-E

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 6:37 AM

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olive wadi not a very good drive at its pricepoint

for 130/tb the p31 gold exists lol

olive wadi Feb 16, 2021, 6:38 AM

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untold grove for 130/tb the p31 gold exists lol

sorry lili, p31 gold is old news

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p31 platinum is where its at

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 6:39 AM

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looking

olive wadi Feb 16, 2021, 6:39 AM

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📎 SK-hynix.jpg

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📎 20210215_205225.jpg

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thoughts lili

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 6:41 AM

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olive wadi

tfw cant find where they sell it

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:34 AM

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@olive wadi I mean I kind of gave up when their reasoning for not going MP34 was not one day shipping

slow flower Feb 16, 2021, 1:32 PM

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guys I woke up today and my computer is very slow I noticed my C:/ SSD is like 100% usage and 160 MB/s read/write while idle

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no virus or malware

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 1:36 PM

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most of the people who say no virus or malware

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have virus or malware keeeek

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 1:36 PM

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malwarebytes or better av time?

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 1:36 PM

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better av time

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 1:36 PM

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dunno good avs

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just know malwarebytes is decent

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 1:36 PM

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https://www.emsisoft.com/en/home/emergencykit

Emsisoft

Emsisoft | Emergency Kit: Free Portable Malware Scan and Removal

Emsisoft Emergency Kit is the ultimate free anti-malware and antivirus tool to scan, detect and remove viruses, keyloggers and other malware threats.

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run full disk scan

mint grove Feb 16, 2021, 3:42 PM

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I am looking for a m2 1tb disk but their prices are too expensive, are there any pieces that have good reading and recording at 500MBs where I will only pay for capacity and not cosmic speeds?

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 3:44 PM

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no

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its like $100 lol

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how is that expensive anyways @mint grove

mint grove Feb 16, 2021, 3:46 PM

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150$

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 3:48 PM

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congrats u looked in the wrong place

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https://www.newegg.com/team-group-mp34-1tb/p/N82E16820331309

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:))

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$113

grim glade Feb 16, 2021, 3:51 PM

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mp34 on msi b460m pro, yes?

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 3:52 PM

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wdym yes

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itll work yeah

grim glade Feb 16, 2021, 3:52 PM

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ok ic

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that m.2 key thing earlier made me think about it lol

nimble robin Feb 16, 2021, 4:02 PM

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slow flower guys I woke up today and my computer is very slow I noticed my C:/ SSD is like 1...

Probs because you have malware

dusk turtle Feb 16, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Or it's doing an update/malware scan

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It is morning 😉

nimble robin Feb 16, 2021, 4:03 PM

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160 mb/s read on a scan?

dusk turtle Feb 16, 2021, 4:03 PM

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Task Manager will tell the tale with disk useage

nimble robin Feb 16, 2021, 4:04 PM

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Eh true

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Crystal Disk or Drive Wizard time

carmine crypt Feb 16, 2021, 11:33 PM

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Hello my new friends! I work in media production, and I would like recommendations on 7200rpm 4TB HDD (not SSD) drive. There's a LOT of options on Newegg and it's a bit overwhelming. Review sites aren't exactly helpful either. Any recommendations?

terse heron Feb 16, 2021, 11:35 PM

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and budget isn't a huge issue, so long as the warranty is solid and the performance is excellent. The Seagate Exos Enterprise was recommended to me.

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:38 PM

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@carmine crypt well, I'd try a Toshiba x300 out of quality and reliability

terse heron Feb 16, 2021, 11:40 PM

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really! That drive was specifically NOT recommended to me for my purposes. Do you have personal experience with it?

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:43 PM

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@untold grove had personal experiences with it on her server if I recall

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:43 PM

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x300 is desktop drive

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for workstation

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youd want a toshiba nas drive

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n300

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or a wd red

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toshiba drives r excellent though

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also dont buy drives from newegg

terse heron Feb 16, 2021, 11:45 PM

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hmmph! ok I'll check this sh1t out! 🙂 Thanks for the recommendation. I've been out of the market a while, and the last HDD I bought was a WD Black. Not sure if those are still a good product or not

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oh really! why not from Newegg?

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:46 PM

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I believe Newegg prices are pretty bad for nas drives? Anyways, I was also under the impression x300 was a nas drive for some reason...

terse heron Feb 16, 2021, 11:48 PM

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man, none of these are priced too badly - I was expecting worse for 4tb. Looking at the Red now.

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:49 PM

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@untold grove gib reasoning for not buying drives on wegg please

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I know Newegg usually doesn't have good prices for the WD white label drives, dunno about the rest

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:50 PM

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minor sun <@730975292755279933> gib reasoning for not buying drives on wegg please

last time i got drives from wegg they were shipped really poorly

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i always say

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buy drives in person if u can

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theyre shipped in pallets

terse heron Feb 16, 2021, 11:51 PM

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One thing I notice about Newegg is that they have like 3 different listings for the SAME product, and they're identical. Or at least, a few that I've looked at the like the Exos that was the case.

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:51 PM

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if not

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:51 PM

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Eh, my Seagate drive had pretty decent packaging, somewhat surprisingly

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:51 PM

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then buy amazon

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do big disk check

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if it fails at all

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rma

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amazon actually has a functional rma system

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:51 PM

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@untold grove tbh I don't trust Amazon shipping after the horror stories of Amazon shipping Zen 3 chips in paper bags

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:52 PM

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minor sun <@730975292755279933> tbh I don't trust Amazon shipping after the horror stories...

what about newegg shipping bare 30 series cards that they just threw some bubble wrap onto?

terse heron Feb 16, 2021, 11:52 PM

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wow that's not f^#$ing good

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:52 PM

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Didn't see anything about that lel

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Just saw mangled pins from CPUs in paper bags and it hurt me inside

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Anyways, I guess the consensus is to try to buy the drives in person if possible, MC or BB or similar store

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@untold grove btw, so x300 is just a good consumer drive, not a nas drive?

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:54 PM

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it does not have nas specific enhancements or firmware

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it is meant for hedt/workstation

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:55 PM

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Gotcha, basically the being less rattly part of nas drives?
(On top of firmware)

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:55 PM

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u could totally use in nas i just wouldnt like

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do that

terse heron Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 PM

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thanks guys, this is definitely helpful.

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 PM

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is that sarcasm keeeek

terse heron Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 PM

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no not at all!! I don't want anything shipped in paper bags!! haha

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:56 PM

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lmfao

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to be fair i doubt that was actually amazon

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probs some reseller that got promptly banned

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i know newegg official did the 30 series thing

terse heron Feb 16, 2021, 11:57 PM

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seriously, hope so.

minor sun Feb 16, 2021, 11:57 PM

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I'll quickly find the source, pretty sure it was on reddit

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:57 PM

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not some reseller

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kk

terse heron Feb 16, 2021, 11:58 PM

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Well, I think I'm leaning towards the WD Red Pro... its got the specs I need, pretty decent reviews, and plus - WD and I go way back

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of the two, would you rather recommend Amazon or Newegg? to order from?

untold grove Feb 16, 2021, 11:59 PM

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id say amazon just cause newegg is uh

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interesting to work with

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customer service wise

terse heron Feb 17, 2021, 12:00 AM

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ok dudes. Thanks for the assists! Let me know if you ever need help deciding on an audio interface, or something else musical related

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hahaha

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 12:01 AM

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:)))))

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and honestly the red pro is nice but

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the n300 is super good too

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 12:01 AM

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Couldn't quickly find the source, I might be going crazy again

terse heron Feb 17, 2021, 12:04 AM

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ok! I'll deep dive on the n300 as well

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 2:22 AM

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terse heron Well, I think I'm leaning towards the WD Red Pro... its got the specs I need, pr...

get the 14tb toshiba enterprise drives

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only good option

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 2:21 PM

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@untold grove sx8200 pro is even worse now, they swapped nand AGAIN
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/adata-switches-nand-on-sx8200-pro-ssd-performance-impacted

Tom's Hardware

Adata Switches NAND on XPG SX8200 Pro SSD Again, Affecting Performance

Adata changes Flash, leading to potentially-slower performance.

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 2:24 PM

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lmfaooooooooooooo

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garbage company

hushed helm Feb 17, 2021, 2:25 PM

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epic

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 2:25 PM

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imagine buying literally anything from adata after this

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literal china company move

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getting good reviews then making product worse

hushed helm Feb 17, 2021, 2:26 PM

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im´ talk spanish, sorry

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 2:26 PM

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i hate how they just say hynix nand tho

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hynix makes some of the best nand

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 2:38 PM

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Yes

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 3:54 PM

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minor sun <@730975292755279933> sx8200 pro is even worse now, they swapped nand AGAIN http...

I JUST bought 3 of these. Well I will be returning them. Can someone suggest a better alternative ?

upper quiver Feb 17, 2021, 3:56 PM

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sn750 Pogey

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 3:56 PM

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Lol

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 4:25 PM

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untold grove hynix makes some of the best nand

do you know why nand is called nand tho

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 4:26 PM

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gentle junco I JUST bought 3 of these. Well I will be returning them. Can someone suggest a b...

p31 gold

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sn750

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mp34

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970 evo plus

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 4:27 PM

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not and

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@untold grove why no normal evo

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sometimes normal evo gud price

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 4:30 PM

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normal evo cool

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but

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id rather get p31 gold/sn750 for that price

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 4:32 PM

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gentle junco I JUST bought 3 of these. Well I will be returning them. Can someone suggest a b...

embrace my ssd buying guide

📎 GAMEZOIDS_SSD_guide_WIP.txt

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 4:32 PM

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@olive wadi google sheets NOW

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 4:32 PM

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no

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 4:32 PM

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I'll make one if you don't

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 4:32 PM

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dont care

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wait

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updating it one last time

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📎 GAMEZOIDS_SSD_guide_WIP.txt

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 4:35 PM

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@olive wadi just take off sx8200 pro

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I've observed the schrodinger's nand and it's trash

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:P

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Also, who is gamezoid

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 4:36 PM

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minor sun Also, who is gamezoid

WHO is this gamezoid

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that is a good question

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📎 unknown.png

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 4:38 PM

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who is he indeed

upper quiver Feb 17, 2021, 4:40 PM

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whatsupguys G A M E Z O I D here backwithanotheramongusletsplay

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 4:45 PM

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minor sun <@!261617855257116672> google sheets NOW

pastebin

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dont use sheets its trash

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 4:47 PM

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@untold grove sheets so much easier to navigate when listing out drives

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Like the SSD mastersheet that's pinned

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 5:05 PM

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i made the mastersheet

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its called p31 gold

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bean

plush crag Feb 17, 2021, 6:01 PM

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I'm gonna make the bot eat your .txt file vomit

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:21 PM

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plush crag I'm gonna make the bot eat your .txt file vomit

please

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:21 PM

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untold grove its called p31 gold

p31 gold shill parrot

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 6:21 PM

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untold grove its called p31 gold

The marketing for the p31 gold is top notch. Looks good overall

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:21 PM

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gentle junco The marketing for the p31 gold is top notch. Looks good overall

bro it has 4d nand bro

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 6:21 PM

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olive wadi bro it has 4d nand bro

I’m referring to the marketing

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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BRO

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it markets 4D NAND

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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BRO

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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📎 morshu.gif

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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olive wadi p31 gold shill parrot

its good smh

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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sk hynix explaining how PUC nand is 4D

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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The layout, colors, pic etc (the marketing) looks good

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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it's green lol

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colors

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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It may be awful, didn’t look at the specs

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:22 PM

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BRO

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its GREEN

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:23 PM

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untold grove its good smh

yes

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doesn't make it any less of a meme

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how much its shilled

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both by me and everyone else

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there are two kinds of tech discord servers

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tech discord servers which shill the mushkin pilot-E

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and tech discord servers which shill the SK hynix p31 gold

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and the odd one which shills the A2000 for some reason

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 6:24 PM

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Samsung 980 pro ?

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:25 PM

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gentle junco Samsung 980 pro ?

i 😴

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pcie gen 4 ssds still meme

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Come on bro

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Future proof

upper quiver Feb 17, 2021, 6:25 PM

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pcie gen 4 go zooooooooom

olive wadi Feb 17, 2021, 6:25 PM

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ok

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im out

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🚪 🚶‍♂️

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 6:25 PM

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Bro

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Come on

upper quiver Feb 17, 2021, 6:25 PM

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ppleave

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 6:26 PM

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its not futureproofed if it does worse in random perf than the p31 gild

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gold

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keeeek

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 6:27 PM

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Daymmmmm

plush crag Feb 17, 2021, 6:42 PM

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Buy a <$200 900p aic on ebay

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galaxybrane

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 6:48 PM

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minor sun I'll make one if you don't

Did you make one?

limber maple Feb 17, 2021, 7:45 PM

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I have a Western Digital PC SN730 NVMe SSD Opal with PCIe 512 GB. Can someone recommened a replacement that will fit back into the Lenovo Thinkpad it came out of?

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 7:52 PM

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maybe soon

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@limber maple Well, it looks to be standard M.2 key M, so most consumer NVMe drives will fit, for example, SN750, MP34, 970 evo, P31

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 8:25 PM

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limber maple I have a Western Digital PC SN730 NVMe SSD Opal with PCIe 512 GB. Can someone re...

sk hynix p31 gold

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 8:41 PM

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untold grove sk hynix p31 gold

LOLOL

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 8:42 PM

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P31 nice

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Dunno, should I make a tier list or just a list of drives for each price :p

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Actually I'm not competent enough to make a tier list, just gonna sort drives by price

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 8:43 PM

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If you have multiple M.2 slots, its ok to mix up brands and capacities right>?

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 8:43 PM

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Ya

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That doesn't matter, mix em all you want, as long as the motherboard can support the drive

amber matrix Feb 17, 2021, 8:44 PM

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basically just like any other ssd/what have you

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Tbh nothing else like mixing other than storage

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Ram doesn't like mixing

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Multi gpu hates mixing

amber matrix Feb 17, 2021, 8:44 PM

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true, the one thing you can mix n match lol

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Multi cpu socket boards hate mixing too afaik

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 8:46 PM

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Thank you for responses

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Another question

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 8:47 PM

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yes

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Z590 have PCI 4, even if you get a M.2 4.0 it wont actually utilize it until rocket lake as 10th gen doesnt support 4.0?

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Yes, 10th gen on z590 won't be able to use PCIe 4.0 drives at full speed, they'll have to run at PCIe 3.0 speeds.

gentle junco Feb 17, 2021, 8:49 PM

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minor sun Yes, 10th gen on z590 won't be able to use PCIe 4.0 drives at full speed, they'l...

Thank you

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 8:52 PM

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i mix gpus

minor sun Feb 17, 2021, 8:52 PM

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lili

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blender too op

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sli and crossfire and other things don't like mixing gpus

untold grove Feb 17, 2021, 8:52 PM

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one of my hosts has a 1650, a 1080, a 1060, and a few quadros

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keeeek

olive wadi Feb 18, 2021, 12:42 AM

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untold grove its not futureproofed if it does worse in random perf than the p31 gild

who cares about random performance

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phison e16 based BIG sequential

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P31 gold random performance isn't even too remarkable

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it's good for its price

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SX8200 pro had better random performance before nandgate 😔

untold grove Feb 18, 2021, 12:43 AM

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did u see they did it AGAIN

minor sun Feb 18, 2021, 12:50 AM

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There's 4 different versions of the same sx8200 pro now afaik

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OG, the previous changed controller&nand#1, previous changed controller&nand#2, recently changed nand version

untold grove Feb 18, 2021, 12:54 AM

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yeah

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honestly the biggest arc was team ending up being not sketchy and adata ruining rep even more

olive wadi Feb 18, 2021, 12:55 AM

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the OG sx8200 pro had better random performance than the p31 gold

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😔

unique badge Feb 18, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Bro I'm puzzled. I installed my first m.2 nvme, actually the sx8100. Mobo is Aorus B450M. I have 5 sata drives, so following Mobo's manual, I disconnected the one at the 5th port, since it was at ASATA3 00. ASATA3 01 also left empty. When I turned on the pc it remain on the Windows logo just loading forever. I checked on the bios and the Nvme was there showing up nicely. I tried different things but ultimately I had to remove the Nvme, restore my config and it booted up. What could be the issue?

thick mulch Feb 19, 2021, 7:14 AM

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Hmm, i dont know for sure but windows is definitely not happy

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It might be a power thing?

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Or maybe a corrupt drive

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Those are my best guesses

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 7:21 AM

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sounds like they had 2 windows installs

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they might be fighting

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 12:32 PM

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lmfao i got a cheap ssd vps and it runs worse than some of my hdd vps instances

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tfw ssd has worse iops than hdd

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 12:32 PM

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lol

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 12:32 PM

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like

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here ill send fio results its funny

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this is the cheap ssd vps

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vs cheapest lililabs ssd vps

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bean

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 12:37 PM

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ah yes

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100mb/s

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 12:38 PM

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the peak of ssd performance

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tfw over 20x faster

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bean

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 3:49 PM

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untold grove the peak of ssd performance

dont care

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lililabs isn't getting my business until it's all 3dxpoint

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nand phased out completely

upper quiver Feb 19, 2021, 3:49 PM

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untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 3:50 PM

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olive wadi dont care

keeeek

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 3:51 PM

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lililabs is struggling to compete with gamezoid labs

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sorry

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its just fact

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our datacenters are more secure, easier to use,

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we are dedicated to things like dedication, diversity, inclusion, hard work, and integrity

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 3:53 PM

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lililabs is all about exclusion

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and being gay

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and cool project boxes

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 3:54 PM

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And dell

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Lots of dell

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@olive wadi who is gamezoid though

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And why do you have their account

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 3:55 PM

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minor sun <@261617855257116672> who is gamezoid though

who is this

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gamezoid

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and why do i have their account

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 3:55 PM

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It's a real mystery

jade apex Feb 19, 2021, 3:56 PM

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GAMEZOID HERE

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LETS F'ING GAME

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 3:56 PM

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keeeek

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 3:57 PM

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crap

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Lol

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 3:57 PM

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ignore

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 3:57 PM

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Lmao

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@jade apex bro did you know this other guy called windshields stole your acc

jade apex Feb 19, 2021, 3:58 PM

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HAVE YOU SEEN MY SSD GUIDE

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 3:58 PM

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BUT WHO ARE YOU

jade apex Feb 19, 2021, 3:58 PM

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GAMEZOID

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 3:58 PM

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WHO IS GAMEZOID

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AND WHY DOES WINDSHIELDS HAVE YOUR ACCOUNT

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:p

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@olive wadi I'll do you one better, why gamezoid

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 4:01 PM

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minor sun <@261617855257116672> I'll do you one better, why gamezoid

do you know buildzoid

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or rather who buildzoid is

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Yes

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 4:01 PM

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ok

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 4:01 PM

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Just a buildzoid knockoff name?

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 4:02 PM

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you know der8aur?

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or however you spell his name

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a long time ago there was a user who went by the name "derg4mer"

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#

#

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@untold grove thoughts on this

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gamezoid is to buildzoid as derg4mer is to derb8auer @minor sun

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 4:04 PM

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SILICON DOESNT MOVE

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 4:04 PM

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silicon doesn't move until i put 5V into my i5 10600k QSRJ on an asus ROG dominatrix extreme

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Lol ok

upper quiver Feb 19, 2021, 4:05 PM

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silicon moves when i throw it ppintelligence

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Lol

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@olive wadi wait is that the famed popcrn or no

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 4:06 PM

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minor sun <@261617855257116672> wait is that the famed popcrn or no

yes lol

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that is popcrn

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saying dumb crap as useable

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usual

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sm2262 >bad

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the only ssd controller his inept ass thinks is good is the sm2258 because it advertises early block retirement

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 4:07 PM

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What

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The heck is early block retirement

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@olive wadi I don't want to pay for my nand's retirement >:(

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 4:10 PM

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minor sun The heck is early block retirement

generic function that falls under block management that hasn't been advertised in any controller made after 2016

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popcrn thinks its something special

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 4:11 PM

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Oh okay

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 4:11 PM

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just describes how the SSD controller retires blocks early lol

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no modern controller looks at a block with a ton of P/E cycles and high error rate and thinks "hmm today i will put your data on it"

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 4:14 PM

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Yes

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 4:45 PM

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what about my samsung ssd from 2010

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doesnt even have a case its just bare nand and pcb

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 5:13 PM

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smexy

vast patrol Feb 19, 2021, 5:48 PM

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was $130 good for a wd black 1tb m.2 ssd?

obsidian mirage Feb 19, 2021, 5:58 PM

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It's a normal price.

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 6:04 PM

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it depends

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idk id rather get p31 gold keeeek

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sn750 is worth like $110

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since its same perf as mp34

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which is priced around there

wintry wraith Feb 19, 2021, 6:15 PM

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im planning on upgrading my laptop with a 2.5 sata (ideally 1 tb) I don't care too much about speeds, does anyone have any good budget options?

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ideally 80 or under

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 6:16 PM

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mx500 is close to that i think?

novel pecan Feb 19, 2021, 7:15 PM

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Can anyone recommend an external editing enclosure with dual slots, that’s Hardware raid? Plan to put (2) ssd evos, 4tb each.

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 7:15 PM

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As in, just a NAS?

novel pecan Feb 19, 2021, 7:17 PM

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No nas,

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 7:17 PM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074NM3ZXS/

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get a nas tho

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if you dont get a nas youre doing it wrong

minor sun Feb 19, 2021, 7:18 PM

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@untold grove does that have hardware raid..?

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 7:19 PM

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i think so????

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its a stupid product segment

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because no one should buy them

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so no one does buy them

novel pecan Feb 19, 2021, 7:19 PM

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Why?

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 7:20 PM

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because you should be using a nas

novel pecan Feb 19, 2021, 7:20 PM

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Yes it appears to have hardware raid. Thanks for the suggestion. For single machine editing with the preference of mobility as well?

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 7:21 PM

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buy nas to keep files on and edit from at home

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then use external pcie ssd to move files around

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is the correct way to do it

novel pecan Feb 19, 2021, 7:23 PM

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A nas network comes in handy for collaboration and potential remote connectivity , yes?

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 7:23 PM

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yes collaberation

novel pecan Feb 19, 2021, 7:23 PM

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Is that your reasoning for being the correct way to do it?

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 7:24 PM

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my reasoning is that the nas will generally use some form of zfs

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and will have over 2 bays

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4tb is not a lot for raw video

novel pecan Feb 19, 2021, 7:25 PM

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I’m not familiar with zfs. It would be 8tb, (x2 4tb in raid0). I plan to have another 32tb raid 5 enclosure for master storage. The dual bay/mobile drive is for immediate and fast editing on a smaller level.

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 7:26 PM

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that is like

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dumb tbh

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like

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no enclosures

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use a nas

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for the storage

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and put a cache in front of it

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and you can edit off of it

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and then just get a portable pcie ssd

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look at synology or ixsystems

novel pecan Feb 19, 2021, 7:29 PM

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I’m familiar with those systems, but I’m not understanding your solution. I’m open to your suggestions, and not swayed by your choice of words, but it would help me if you can put more care into your sentence structure.

untold grove Feb 19, 2021, 7:30 PM

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sorry havent slept in 36 hours

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had to talk to vendors all day 2 days in a row

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@olive wadi u help them im gonna nap

novel pecan Feb 19, 2021, 7:31 PM

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Lol

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I don’t see anything wrong with having localized storage for my case. It’s relevant to a lot of people still. It’s only for me, no one else. 8tb of super fast editing, and 32tb for archiving, plus an offsite backup.

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 8:04 PM

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untold grove <@!261617855257116672> u help them im gonna nap

telling an unraid user to help with zfs

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woke

plush crag Feb 19, 2021, 8:04 PM

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I'm surprised you're not a zfs guy

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 8:04 PM

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i plan on eventually doing a zfs server

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but

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i use unraid rn

plush crag Feb 19, 2021, 8:05 PM

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fair

olive wadi Feb 19, 2021, 8:05 PM

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and probably will continue to use it unless the server is for some kind of professional use

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im ok with unraids poor performance if it means being able to randomly toss drives in and having a fun webgui

plush crag Feb 19, 2021, 8:13 PM

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I'd have thought you'd be a hardcore command line nerd

olive wadi Feb 20, 2021, 12:18 AM

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plush crag I'd have thought you'd be a hardcore command line nerd

lol wtf

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no way

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me see command line and brain leave body

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gui i require

plush crag Feb 20, 2021, 12:18 AM

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You're more of a normie than I thought

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 2:31 AM

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Samsung 980 Pro Vs 970 Evo Plus is the extra price justified ?

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is it better to go 1 and 1 or 2 of the evo plus

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:05 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07SNHB4RC?tag=georiot-us-default-20&th=1&psc=1&ascsubtag=tomshardware-us-1430456603361275000-20&geniuslink=true

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:07 AM

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Amazon sure likes to give as few details on PC parts as possible

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Not bad for $90 after coupon

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:12 AM

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LOL True

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:12 AM

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Eh, SATA

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Few bucks more could do NVME

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:12 AM

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But for just data storage, that's fine

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:12 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Pilot-Encryption-Internal-MKNSSDPE1TB-D8/dp/B07RD1W6SB

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:13 AM

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He was already looking at doing 2 nvme

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:13 AM

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For 1 TB?

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I mean, if I already had 2 NVME

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I'd be getting a 4-6TB platter TBH

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:14 AM

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He was looking at a 500GB boot/program drive, 1TB game drive, then a sata storage drive

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But that's true for larger storage/dollar a HDD isn't a bad choice

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:14 AM

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I wont do a HDD

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:16 AM

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Why. You need some kind of backup

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If not HDD then cloud

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:16 AM

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I keep external HDD for that 🤷‍♂️

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:16 AM

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hows that Hynix gold Vs the SN750?

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:16 AM

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I've got an internal and external hdd

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Backup for myself and my wife

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:17 AM

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For backup that makes sense

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right now just trying iron out deets in the case so to speak

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:17 AM

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gentle junco hows that Hynix gold Vs the SN750?

Can't compare them, the SN750 is NVME, the Hynix you posted is 2.5" SATA

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:18 AM

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dusk turtle Can't compare them, the SN750 is NVME, the Hynix you posted is 2.5" SATA

Doh

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I meant thos

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DK2FB7G?tag=georiot-us-default-20&th=1&psc=1&ascsubtag=tomshardware-us-1350453706467393300-20&geniuslink=true

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but the price is higher than WD now that I have the right one

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:19 AM

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The TBW seems a bit low

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:20 AM

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750 is low?

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:20 AM

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I mean

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My Sabrent is rated at like 1650 TBW I think, lemme check

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:21 AM

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WD SN750 1TB is rated at 600 TBW

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:21 AM

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Yeah, the Sbarent 500 GB is 800 TBW

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Mine are 1 TB, 1665 TBW

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Forgot it was a 500 GB they were looking at

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People get picky over drives but I like my Sabrents for the TBW. Speed ain't too bad either

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:24 AM

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There's really no "perfect" or "best" drive
You've just gotta pick features that work for you

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:25 AM

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Yeah im intel gathering

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Thank you very much for your insights

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:27 AM

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IMO, if those are your only drives, TBW should be a heavy consideration as well.

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:29 AM

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TBW/

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?

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:30 AM

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TeraBytes Written

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basically, how much data the drive can have written to it before it dies

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Rather than platter drives which have an hourly lifespan, flash drives have a data write limit lifespan

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:30 AM

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ahh got ya

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:31 AM

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There's no moving parts to wear out the but NAND wears out from being written to

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:31 AM

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Yeah the acronym didnt click but i know what your saying

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:32 AM

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Every drive has a TBW rating. Sometimes hard to find, especially on Amazon.

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:33 AM

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Its interesting how many things are on the market and how competitive they can be

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:34 AM

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The rabbit hole gets really deep really quick

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:34 AM

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absoloutly

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I think thats also where name brands hold onto marketshare more

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like 100 options and competitive specs, go with a well known name brand

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:35 AM

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Samsung ain't what it used to be

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:35 AM

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lol

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:35 AM

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You pay for the name on Samsung

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:35 AM

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I mean, my old Crucial MX550's are still kicking lol

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:35 AM

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For sure

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:35 AM

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They made the reputation and now they're coasting on it

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:36 AM

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*M550

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:36 AM

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I feel like thats par for teh course in business

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"you either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villian"

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:36 AM

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Intel's motto

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:36 AM

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lol

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CDPR looking like that embodiment too huh

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without getting too far off topic, as i said people know samsung and rather pay a small upcharge vs buying T force bla bla

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when its competitive like now

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:38 AM

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That's a whole different issue, they promised something they couldn't deliver in the time frame they gave, and kept pushing the date back until investors dropped out so they had to release it

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:39 AM

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blazing musk That's a whole different issue, they promised something they couldn't deliver in...

the investor calls revealed what was going on and they issued an apology for lying to fans etc. They used their name to garner respect and people had faith and then....

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it was a tie into the dark knight quote

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im not saying its the same as samsung im saying its the die hero line

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now CDPR is the villian

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:40 AM

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I guarantee they get bought out by Microsoft or something, they lost a lot of money

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:40 AM

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wven with the loss, they broke a lot of records

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I hoenstly dont think CDPR is in trouble

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:40 AM

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Like most bugs at launch day? Or refunds issued?

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:40 AM

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like i think they still are profitable

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:41 AM

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I mean, no one looks at Sabrent either. Faster and almost triple the TBW for the same price as the SN750

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:41 AM

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Link me something good Ill look at it

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:41 AM

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This one, same price as SN750 but three times the rated life heh https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Rocket-Internal-Performance-SB-ROCKET-1TB/dp/B07LGF54XR

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Tad faster reads too

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Same reads?

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Gotta check

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:43 AM

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About the same sequential but better IOPS

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For the Rocket

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:44 AM

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They don't list a write for the SN750

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gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:44 AM

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ohhh looks like we narrowing it down

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:44 AM

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That's a real live bench for a Sabrent

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Sabrant has taken the lead

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:44 AM

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dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:44 AM

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Same same then

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Just 3 times the rated life (almost)

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:47 AM

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Sabrant looks to be taken the 1tb M.2 slot

red jay Feb 20, 2021, 6:48 AM

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dusk turtle Just 3 times the rated life (almost)

Oh ok

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:50 AM

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The Sabrent even beats the 970 evo from the look of it

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:50 AM

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Yes

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Evo is OUT

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 6:51 AM

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WOW the 4 TB Sabrent has 7300 TBW rating

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:53 AM

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Dam

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well thats 1 drive picked out!

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I dont need to have all the same drive so ill probably get the WD black for 500gb

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Any suggestions on Sata SSD over Samsung?

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 6:56 AM

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I'm out of the loop on those. Honestly, the SATA connection is the bottleneck there so they all should be about the same speed

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 6:57 AM

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Yeah using that for the storage

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T force is 10 bucks cheaper than samsung

plush crag Feb 20, 2021, 7:07 AM

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sigh @olive wadi can you post an updated .txt of your list

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 7:12 AM

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LOL

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@olive wadi Help us

plush crag Feb 20, 2021, 7:12 AM

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why ping twice lol

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but here's a slightly old version #storage-devices message

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I just wish he'd make it a google doc lol

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 7:13 AM

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Just copy pasta, no reason not to

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 7:14 AM

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LOL he wont make a google doc

plush crag Feb 20, 2021, 7:14 AM

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I like how his list is totally based around real consumer use case/needs

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And not just on-paper specs

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Like, a lot of people hate on qlc drives because "QLC BAD"

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 7:14 AM

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It's not bad

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But if you can get TLC for the same money, why not?

plush crag Feb 20, 2021, 7:15 AM

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But they're totally fine for the average gamer at $80 / 1TB

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 7:17 AM

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Ye, I don't understand the SN750 being higher than the Sabrent or the MP34. All the same speeds and price but the SN750 has almost 1/3 the life of the others.

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 7:18 AM

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Tell em vintage!

dusk turtle Feb 20, 2021, 7:19 AM

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Not telling anything, seems like an out of date list despite being a week old. Probably some preference on the controller or something.

gentle junco Feb 20, 2021, 7:19 AM

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ok I am crashing. I need sleep to absorb all the stuff talked about tonight lol

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Night all

untold grove Feb 20, 2021, 7:56 AM

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blazing musk The Sabrent even beats the 970 evo from the look of it

theres rated tbw and real tbw

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 7:57 AM

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Tell that to @dusk turtle

untold grove Feb 20, 2021, 7:57 AM

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i got 3.5 pbw from a 512gb 970 evo

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960*

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the sabrent drives are hella nice

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but

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for my money id get p31 gold for that 130

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if all u need is 1tb

olive wadi Feb 20, 2021, 10:26 AM

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gentle junco <@!261617855257116672> Help us

no idc about comparing sequentrials

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its silly

untold grove Feb 20, 2021, 10:46 AM

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compare iops time

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bean

minor sun Feb 20, 2021, 3:02 PM

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Seq seq seq

jade apex Feb 20, 2021, 3:10 PM

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blazing musk WOW the 4 TB Sabrent has 7300 TBW rating

who cares

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TBW rating=who cares

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it's always an arbitrary gross underestimation of reality

nimble robin Feb 20, 2021, 3:11 PM

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Wdym?

jade apex Feb 20, 2021, 3:11 PM

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TBW rating doesn't actually tell you how many P/E cycles the cells can go through

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and TBW to what?

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Total failure?

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Higher error rate?

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arbitrary and fairly unuseful metric

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An SSD with 100tb written rating will probably last something more like 500-1000tbw

jade apex Feb 20, 2021, 3:13 PM

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untold grove compare iops time

idc about iops

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random performance and mixed IO 😎

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GAMEZOID OUT

untold grove Feb 20, 2021, 3:14 PM

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tbw = how long manufacturer will cover it

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its like saying ur car should only go 20k miles cause thats when the dealership stops covering it

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tbw ratings hella stupid

olive wadi Feb 20, 2021, 7:52 PM

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@untold grove are you going to join my ssd q&a

upper quiver Feb 20, 2021, 7:53 PM

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who tf is gamezoid

olive wadi Feb 20, 2021, 7:54 PM

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upper quiver who tf is gamezoid

are you going to join my ssd q&a

upper quiver Feb 20, 2021, 7:54 PM

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no

olive wadi Feb 20, 2021, 7:54 PM

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oh

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😔

upper quiver Feb 20, 2021, 7:54 PM

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who gamezoid

olive wadi Feb 20, 2021, 8:00 PM

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upper quiver who gamezoid

itll be answered in the Q&A

upper quiver Feb 20, 2021, 8:01 PM

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when q&a

olive wadi Feb 20, 2021, 8:01 PM

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who knows

cosmic plover Feb 20, 2021, 8:30 PM

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question

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whats better removing 500 gb m.2 for my 16a0032dx lappy and getting 1tb m.2 or adding 1 tb ssd along with 500gb m.2

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im thnking the ssd with m.2

blazing musk Feb 20, 2021, 9:22 PM

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Add the SSD with your existing M.2, there's not going to be a practical difference in speed between the two, but there's benefits like increased storage space.
Most games won't use the full bandwidth of sata interface anyway, so I use my M.2 as a boot drive with the sata as game/program storage, and HDD for media storage.

clear lichen Feb 20, 2021, 10:12 PM

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any reconmendation of a cheap m.2 ssd pcie 4

untold grove Feb 20, 2021, 10:23 PM

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none

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gen4 drives arent cheap

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TJWZGL9/

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i guess this is cheap but idk about good

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looks like its pretty good actually

red jay Feb 20, 2021, 10:28 PM

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untold grove none

^

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I have 2 gen4, yep. 1 can be like 200.

untold grove Feb 20, 2021, 10:29 PM

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i mean

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this one is 180

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and looks great

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if u dont want dumb speeds

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like 4.4gb/s sequential