by doing another clone
#storage-devices
fallen shale
ok ty
heady raven
when you say the following: "just copied all my files from my old ssd using the software acronis" <- do you mean, you booted to a usb stick and then copied things?
fallen shale
I got a new m.2 drive so I cloned my old ssd into it so I can use it as m main storage device and use it as a booter
There’s a pop up now during the cloning process saying failed to read sectors 11,021,760 oh hard disk 1
This is me recloning it rn since u told me to
heady raven
if that sector is related to the boot sector, then you are out of luck
fallen shale
Can I send u a photo of the pop up
heady raven
sure :)
jovial cypress
are expansion card good for multiple storage?
untold grove
you mean like raid cards?
heady raven
@untold grove @ the user if you are curious :) only way to make certain they have not forgotten they even asked :)
untold grove
are expansion card good for multiple storage?
you mean raid cards or just straight pcie to sata cards/pcie to nvme cards?
answer to all those questions is yes though for the average person tho
heady raven
:)
also makes it much easier for yourself to actually figure out why someone is answering something completely out of context a week later :)
untold grove
lmao true
jovial cypress
just need extra storage
i dont know anything about raid or what its properties is.
@untold grove
untold grove
you dont have more sata ports free?
untold grove
just need extra storage
generally your board will have at the VERY LEAST like 4 sata ports
untold grove
do you not have m.2 slots on your board?
untold grove
how many do you plan to add?
jovial cypress
ASUS Hyper M.2 X16 PCIe 4.0 X4 Expansion Card Supports 4 NVMe M.2
this one, is this good?
2 or more
untold grove
thatll work if your board supports pcie bifurcation
jovial cypress
TUF x570 wifi
jovial cypress
aight thx thx
jovial cypress
I just like to seperate my files from work,games,os etc
open gazelle
I mean, there is always setting multiple partitions on a single drive if that's all you want
marble comet
@untold grove @torpid adder fixed. PS I asked for help to fix my issue with perfectly compatible hardware, not shopping advise.
hearty trellis
hi. i have 4 drives. one boot and three for games. im building a new pc. can i just swap all of it to my pc and have it work? do i need to reinstall windows again? what about the hard drives filled with just games? ty 🙂
thick mulch
@hearty trellis it SHOULD work. some would say to get a new windows install but windows should be able to figure out how to work the new hardware. you will need to install new drivers and it may look odd before you do that
hearty trellis
im goin from i5 8400 to i7 10700k, u think so?
thick mulch
I have had PSUs that actually cannot support a lot of HDDS but u should be fine
I am very sure. I do refurb and use one SSD to run windows on many different types of computers
hearty trellis
Thank you 🙂
runic crater
is 980pro worth it ?
minor sun
no
Sabrent rocket 4 plus cheaper and faster to start off
and little to none benefit from PCIe 4.0
runic crater
Sabrent rocket 4 plus cheaper and faster to start off
@minor sun can u send me a link of that ssd please
runic crater
thank you
gentle lodge
Check the seagate 520 firecuda. Same price better rating
It's 200 for the 1tb, I just realized but check it out anyways
mortal hazel
Anyone know any good Budget SATA III SSD's?
untold grove
define budget
mortal hazel
Around a hundred or so bucks I can go a little over if need be
untold grove
size?
red jay
is there a big noticeable difference between the Crucial P1 and MP34?
minor sun
@gentle lodge Rocket 4 plus' speeds kinda destory the firecuda 520
5500/4400 on the firecuda, 7000/6850MB/s on the Rocket 4 plus
solemn panther
Crucial MX500 1tb, or Samsung 870 Evo/Qvo 1tb?
minor sun
if at the same price, 870 evo
true apex
Hello, what is the best way to clone a NVMe m.2?
thick mulch
its like any other drive
just plug in the target and cloning and then tranfer it over. I like to use EaseUS mobimover
@true apex
untold grove
or clonezilla or aomei or partedmagic or acronis or whatever
most ssds will come with a clone tool as well
for example, wd and samsung and sabrent all come with them if i recall
wd and seagate also have their own versions of acronis you can use
in general
as long as you have a wd or seagate drive in your system
urban fjord
Hello
untold grove
hi
past peak
storage woman has spoken
heady raven
only retail package drives will come with a bundled piece of software
a LOT of drives are oem models
aka
just the drive, nothing else
runic crater
@gentle lodge Rocket 4 plus' speeds kinda destory the firecuda 520
5500/4400 on the firecuda, 7000/6850MB/s on the Rocket 4 plus
@minor sun I was Thinking and i don’t really need a 7000mb speed ssd so what’s should i buy that’s less than 200
opal bobcat
I've actually had wonderful experiences with wd
that odd
from what I understand they are a pretty reputable brand, what happened?
thick mulch
both my passport drives I have had experience a "fatal error" after like a year
and the internal drives dont use sata so they are not easy to fix
opal bobcat
That's really weird, I've had a passport on my xbox for the past 6 years without issue
winter remnant
is the samsung 970 evo fast?
thick mulch
yes
opal bobcat
is the samsung 970 evo fast?
yes
thick mulch
very
winter remnant
awesome thank you !
opal bobcat
hdds do have a tendency to fail if they get bumped. Were they sitting in one spot?
runic crater
what ssd should i pick, i can spend 150$ and 1tb
runic crater
games and fast boot
opal bobcat
ok, I have always been satisfied with sata ssds and don't really see the need for nvme but apparently a lot of people do. In fact my pc has a 1tb sata ssd for games and boot. If you really want speed, go nvme. If you just need quick (I experience 15-20 second boot up times with sata) sata should do fine
plus sata saves a few bucks
Probably should have started by asking are you looking for an m.2 drive?
runic crater
yes
runic crater
nvme
opal bobcat
one sec
That order is cheapest to most expensive from what I'd recommend, that also happens to be slowest to fastest
the evo 970 is one of the go to products when it comes to ssds @ 130$ and it is pretty fast
the sabrent is just a tad slower but you do shave off 20$
runic crater
thx
opal bobcat
Personally I wouldn't go for the intel but if you're strapped for cash and want nvme, that's the option
I also wouldn't do the wd because 5$ more gets you a bunch more speed
runic crater
i just got a question
if a ssd is 3000mb and another ssd is 6000mb does it means it will boot twice as fast?
steady dawn
past peak
the mp34
steady dawn
🙂
opal bobcat
if a ssd is 3000mb and another ssd is 6000mb does it means it will boot twice as...
no
a 6000mb won't boot much faster than a 3000mb
6000 is a bit overkill if you ask me
for a gaming pc
opal bobcat
yeah
untold grove
can anyone recommend me a 2tb external storage for mac?
an external ssd is your best bet, external 2.5in drives are trash no matter who makes them. If I had to get an external it would be an external 3.5 inch drive from WD, like an Easystore.
jovial cypress
Yep bought one in bestbuy
uncut vine
box
jovial cypress
Was going to buy something else but, it's not my call to change what she wanted so yeah
untold grove
literally the only thing seagate does better than WD is 2.5 inch drives, and theyre still garbage
be sure not to use external drives as backups
they are much more delicate in general, and are rated for less power on time
past peak
storage woman has spoken
untold grove
:)))
a lot of seagates 3.5in externals are smr
for the most part WD uses cmr for the 2tb, smr for 3tb-6tb and cmr for the rest
at least the easystore
sturdy lake
Why am I having such a hard time finding 2.5" 5mm 2tb ssd? Are they not a thing or something?
verbal belfry
My friend has an 16 gig sd card (SanDisk)
Some how the 14 gig of "movies" is like not deleating.
We tried everything form formatting in my lap in his phone and ni my phone the 14 gig won't be freed
Anyone knows anything on how to format the drive would be a big help.
I don't know how it end up like that. He said he applied a setting that makes it's current content perementaly read only .
Can we actually do that ?
crisp lichen
i need a reader for an old laptop hard drive card
is this something you can help with
SK hynix SC308 256GB M.2 2280 SATA Solid State Drive Model HFS256G39TND
heady raven
@crisp lichen any m.2 capable board/adapter should work
daring quail
is the https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qfPgXL/transcend-110s-128-gb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-ts128gmte110s ok to use for a boot drive
winter remnant
is the vnand 860 evo fast?
thick mulch
yes
rancid pike
the nvme trashy posted is literally the cheapest possible one on pc part picker
thick mulch
@daring quail have used that in a TR build i did and worked great
daring quail
ok thanks
runic crater
what’s the best ssd nvme 1tb for 130
teal python
Not sure if best or not but this is solid and at your price point atm
https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-1tb/p/N82E16820147691?Item=N82E16820147691&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-20-147-691-_-12092020
small steppeBOT
TaleSpin#0614 has been warned
untold grove
w t f
lmao i cant send multiple pcpp links at once i guess
these are also good options
thick mulch
The storage lord has spoken
pastel notch
What’s a good, fast hard drive with like a terabyte of storage that’s not too expensive?
I’m asking about hard drive because I already have a SSD
rancid pike
Hard drives aren’t really faster or slower
At least, if you’re getting one with the the standard speed it’s not
Also, not sure how a cache on a hard drive would affect speeds but probably not by much
Anyways, “fast” and “hard drive” don’t generally go together, a hard drive is just a mass storage drive if anything
runic crater
my 5400rpm laptop hdd destroys samsung 980pro with 30min of boot time 😎😎😎
pastel notch
So that’s what I meant
rancid pike
Pretty sure the highest rpm is 7200
Or at least, the highest that’s commercially available and actually fees able to buy
*feasible
7200 is the standard anyways
Shouldn’t be buying 5400
Not even cheaper at this point
runic crater
they are the same just choose a good brand
rancid pike
Not even sure what the difference is with like, one of the fancy wd black HDDs compared to a blue
steady dawn
SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 or Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280
past peak
which one's cheaper
steady dawn
same price
past peak
were you looking into the 1tb version or 500gb version?
steady dawn
1tb
past peak
look into other cheaper options like the mp34, rocket q, mp400 and the sx8200 pro
steady dawn
ty again
fallow notch
Anyone having issues with their delivery for the wd blue 2 tb ssd Black Friday sale? It’s been sitting with ups mail innovations 3 hrs from my house for like a week and a half now...
turbid pier
I think they’re just having too many things to ship, the monitor I ordered on Black Friday is finally out for delivery today through ups
chilly trench
is 970 pro pcie worth it? or is the 970 evo plus fine
kind sierra
Neither of them are worth it @chilly trench
chilly trench
really
kind sierra
Yeah. They're way overpriced
chilly trench
what is the recommendation for gaming pc
chilly trench
ok i will check it out
kind sierra
Basically the same performance at about half the cost
chilly trench
okay
kind sierra
Anyone hear know how much ram an HMB drive will use under normal use?
noble atlas
past peak
the sx8200 pro?
untold grove
Yep
past peak
sorry storage woman, plz forgive
untold grove
They replaced the
Controller
Firmware
And flash
Honestly nowadays i just pay either samsung or sanrent
Sabrent
They have never switched stuff around like this
And likely never will
Knowing i didnt get scammed is worth an extra $20 to me
The mp34 is great too, but coming from the other teamgroup ssds ive used, im a bit worried about longevity
untold grove
Yes
lean quest
So @untold grove why is changing components for an ssd a bad thing if it all still meets the spec... video almost felt sponsored by Samsung :/
untold grove
Because it doesnt meet the spec?
Did you even watch the video lol
500mbps slower on average
Big transfers kill it now
If you want the best ssd
You buy from someone who makes the nand and the dram
Rn there are 3
If you want a good ssd
Imo you dont buy adata at all
torpid adder
Kingston lol
untold grove
Lmao
torpid adder
Ah neat
runic crater
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Y6YLrH/team-mp34-1-tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-tm8fp4001t0c101
@runic crater which would be a better option , this or a 970 evo
untold grove
970 evo
Samsung is the best around always tbh
The other drives are ok if u wanna save some money though
thick mulch
yeah, samsung is pretty great. even the 20 year old hard drive useing sata 1 from them is probably best in class for the time
untold grove
cant go wrong with samsung tbh
kind steppe
untold grove
mp34 uses nand that team found on the factory floor lol
its a good ssd but id spend $20 more to ensure its getting all high quality parts in there
rancid pike
Sn750 vs a 970 evo then?
rancid pike
I wanna see what storage person says tho
hazy bridge
lmao my opinion is as valid as everyone elses lol
round echo
well. i wouldn't trust anything from a single person, multiple inputs is good
hazy bridge
go look up u/newmaxx
sammy is overpriced. wd is slightly better. hp, sabrent are great, avoid adata
agile rune
minor sun
It's low end
@hazy bridge tbh SX8200 pro is still decently good, but what ADATA did with swapping controllers was scummy
upper quiver
just bought this, its pretty neat looking
it'll make a great boot drive for a server
untold grove
<@484466125741096972> tbh SX8200 pro is still decently good, but what ADATA did ...
id honestly never look at adata again, the drive is trash tier now for the price
swapped controllers and firmware and nand
not just controller
untold grove
Sn750 vs a 970 evo then?
always depends on the price you can get the drives for. samsung is the best out there and id say if theyre $10 more or something id go for it. $20-40 more is more of a stretch. so it depends what price you can get them for id say
if you're upgrading they both come with cloning software iirc so that isnt a concern either
rancid pike
Yea, the 970 was $30 more than the sn750
untold grove
it depends then
i dont agree that theres a samsung "tax" tbh, youre paying for the integration
great firmware, dram, nand, and controller all made by the same people
and in my experience its them or sabrent or corsair that I can trust for great drives every time
sadly sabrent has gotten more expensive so ive stopped considering them
thick mulch
yeah
thick mulch
in AK its not
rancid pike
Sabrent
untold grove
youre paying for the knowledge that every part of the drive is specifically designed to work with each other
from the ground up
and that youre getting the best binned nand from the best nand flash company in the world
sabrent is good for sure
how much cheaper are they?
imo theres like 4 drive options at this point
dirt cheap, mp34. more cheap, sabrent rocket. more good, sn750. Most good, 970 evo
all are good drives though
thick mulch
crucial makes some good stuff too
thick mulch
wd... isnt as competitive as they used to be
untold grove
i wont stop others from recommending them
wd isnt as great as they used to be in the ssd space but still make good drives and im mostly confident they wont pull a adata/kingston on us
thick mulch
the only reason I like adata SSDs is the RGB
but if I want a value for less I am a team fan
upper quiver
what you booting off of them?
prolly ESXi 6.0
base install plus my iodrive2 drivers will fit fine on 16gb
untold grove
niiiiice
frosty condor
The Mp34 nvme ssd is gen 4, right?
minor sun
no
steady dawn
970evo not the pro vs wd 750
i already ordered the 970 evo not the pro one
should i refund
loud estuary
I would get a mp34. You pay for the brand with Samsung
untold grove
You pay for the quality tbh
Depends
If u want cheap get the mp34
If ur ok with spending a bit more for a higher quality drive overall
I'd do that
left lichen
oi
is this a good ssd
Samsung 860 EVO 1TB SSD
and how will i plug it in
while i build my pc
past peak
you would just need to connect it to the psu for power and to the mobo using the sata cables provided
past peak
smh
loud estuary
You pay for the quality tbh
Nothing wrong with the quality of the mp34
And it costs much less
molten kettle
why does my hdd sound like its gonna blow up
command prompt tests claims my drives are in good condition, but my hdd makes a ruckus all the time
round shoal
I have a Corsair mp600 2tb m.2 but I am thinking whether should I get another m.2 1tb for bootdrive. Is it wise to use a pcie gen3 m.2 for bootdrive? My Corsair mp600 is a pcie gen4 m.2.
nimble robin
command prompt tests claims my drives are in good condition, but my hdd makes a ...
thats because HDDs spin when they are in use
molten kettle
so im all good?
hazy bridge
why does my hdd sound like its gonna blow up
Mine makes a somewhat banging noise but it’s more or less brand new and healthy according to CDI
Hard drives are just noise makers
It’s normal
half quest
When i put my new m.2 in it say its corrupted and not readable or something
red jay
anyone here
@half quest then return it ig
@half quest install driver booster, get full version, keys are all over youtube, let that scan for software and update ur drivers, restart ur computer and see what happens
steady dawn
is the Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 better the 970evo not that pro ?
never got a true answer
minor sun
@steady dawn The solid answer is read through this.
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd-black-sn750-ssd,5957-2.html
steady dawn
ty
untold grove
command prompt tests claims my drives are in good condition, but my hdd makes a ...
Depends, some drives make noise, some dont. Id check SMART using a tool like HD Sentinel
molten kettle
Depends, some drives make noise, some dont. Id check SMART using a tool like HD ...
Thanks! Will do
untold grove
Is it a clicking noise?
molten kettle
I have the most average and used hdd lmao, I have a seagate barracuda 2 tb hdd
untold grove
Ew
molten kettle
Kinda, it’s only during loads and very rarely while in sitting doing nothing, and it’s like grinding sounding noise
untold grove
Id test it
untold grove
Mhm
molten kettle
Ok thanks man!
minor sun
CDM on my barracuda 2tb
rapid dagger
mp33 is a good budget ssd right
upper quiver
mp34 is
crucial P1 is an ok budget ssd
but only when its on sale
SN750 might be on sale
rapid dagger
if you had to do as budget ssd as possible (with dram) what would you choose (250-256gb)
upper quiver
and there's a samsung drive on sale rn
256gb is a bad buy
512gb is much more worth it
rapid dagger
im trying to configure it for a 350-400 dollar machine
upper quiver
ohh, thats suuuuper budget
your best bet would be to get a laptop, look around FB market, mercari, and ebay for used parts, or get a dell optiplex and slap a 1650 in it
rapid dagger
it has to be new and doesnt need a video card
rapid dagger
thye dont want it to be obsolete or something idk
Im doing 3 price points and im guessing they wont pick this one but idk im still doing it
upper quiver
they? so this system isnt for you?
if someone needs help, just tell them to come here, helping through someone else is annoying and difficult
untold grove
^^^
cyan token
anyone know why sata ssd are the same price as nvme ssd?
analog saffron
@heady raven Is it safe to Defrag a SSD or M.2 if the system is lagging for some unknown reason??? Just wondering as Microsoft Defrag and Optimization says the Drives are all ok but I just spent about 6 hours Defragging a 1tb SSHD that was at about 41% fragmented that Windows said was fine and was thinking maybe the lag is caused by a Fragmented M.2 drive
@minor sun ^^^^^
untold grove
Trim only
minor sun
Side note, looks like my SSD actually runs fairly hot, any ideas for like a heatsink I can slap on the controller maybe?
minor sun
@untold grove just for the controller? dunno about compatibility, unless it's just a solid copper block, also, I was thinking smth like these lil things
https://www.amazon.com/Easycargo-Heatsink-conductive-Regulators-8-8mmx8-8mmx5mm/dp/B079FQ22LK/
untold grove
Look it up babe
Its a nice copper heatsink
And why just the controller?
Whole surface coolers are fine
Not gonna be getting much done with a tiny surface area
minor sun
I don't want to spend 30$ on a heatsink when I just need a small one :P
minor sun
thick mulch
@minor sun I would recommend just slapping a Noctua 40mm
minor sun
Yes a4 is small but I don't think it's gonna fit there well
thick mulch
hmm... that is tight
untold grove
Owo
thick mulch
uWu
minor sun
Side note
thick mulch
anyway, you could pull a dell
minor sun
100% all fan speeds time maybe
thick mulch
you could get crafty and make a wind tunnel
with a tiny noctua and some folded paper
untold grove
The little ones barely do anything tbh
untold grove
The little heatsinks
thick mulch
ooh
minor sun
you know
untold grove
I own several of the small noctuas and trust me im a believer
minor sun
I do have a spare wraith spire
untold grove
Server ran whisper quiet
thick mulch
good idea
minor sun
got no tools tho
thick mulch
I am just enough of a scrub to actually use those
minor sun
now running every controllable fan in my PC to 100% >:D
thick mulch
you MADMAN
minor sun
ssd temps not improving sadly
untold grove
Less than 75?
minor sun
hm?
untold grove
Temp
minor sun
67c
untold grove
Ur ok
minor sun
P sure it was throttling
rated closer to 3000mb/s write, forgot exacts
~2000mb/s write on a usual cdm run, bit more than half way filled
1000mb/s and now down to 400mb/s making it write things via cmd
thick mulch
ok, just had a thought
If you move the SSD down to the lower key
Maybe you could get more airflow as cases put air there
untold grove
I just know my sabrent cooler keeps it sub 40s
thick mulch
Rich...
minor sun
blood cooling
thick mulch
I did it on a celeron once
Those old cases with side panel fans need to come back for this exact reason
untold grove
Lol
analog saffron
@minor sun I actually needed to Defrag my M.2 sadly which is my Boot Drive. 43% fragmented. I forgot to Defrag the C drive from when I originally went from a Spinning HDD to a Regular SSD before I transfered the OS from the SSD to the M.2
That would Explain alot of my system Lag that has been happening
Probably Would Explain the Slow System Boot Up time as well
analog saffron
@untold grove If you read I didnt Defrag the Original HDD before transfering it to a SSD
So Its been fragmented for at least 1 1/2 years
untold grove
i actually Did Read the thing you Sent
analog saffron
ok
untold grove
wow its fun to capitalize random words i see why you do it now
analog saffron
Partly thanks to having to write college papers
analog saffron
Its a bad habit that is hard to break
untold grove
ssd has limited write count
and when you defrag you basically write the drive over again
analog saffron
I know but its my own fault for not defragging the original HDD
Before transfering the OS to a SSD
untold grove
trim is something that ssds use for garbage collection and also to do their own little defrag
minor sun
drive do be cool now
analog saffron
At least it wont take 6-8 hours to defrag the M.2 thankfully
minor sun
gonna cdm and see if that fixed things
analog saffron
I tried chkdsk and that didnt do anything
upper quiver
At least it wont take 6-8 hours to defrag the M.2 thankfully
it wont take any time at all to defrag the M.2
because you dont defrag them
analog saffron
When I used the Windows Optimize drives it fixed the system lag issue for like 2 hours and it was back again
upper quiver
ever
minor sun
hm, write speeds be weird even with good cooling now
signal tendon
So i have a wd blue sn550 its dramless should i replace it
I just bought it
Its my first ever pc are dramless ssd like suuuper bad or slightly less advantageous
Is it worth going through the trouble of sending it back to newegg to get a new one 😭
opal bobcat
From what I understand dramless sssds are very slow (or at least inconsistant) compared to dram drives
Could be wrong tho
opal bobcat
How do actually tell if you have a dramless ssd
signal tendon
But like for a first time builder is it gonna be really bad
I come from a 2013 laptop so i mean everything is an upgrade
untold grove
nah it wont suck too bad
id return if it were me
@opal bobcat look up datasheet of ur drive
opal bobcat
Datasheet didn't say
untold grove
drive?
opal bobcat
yeah ik but its still lightning fast compared to a hdd
opal bobcat
does what i need it to
thick mulch
Yeah
untold grove
fair
thick mulch
@untold grove at this point i am just curious- what is your avatar?
thick mulch
Ok I wouldnt go that far
untold grove
my sona lol
thick mulch
I still have no idea but ok
opal bobcat
4 real tho is nvme really all that important if you just want to boot the pc up in under a minute and launch games in under a minute
which my pc surpasses by far
untold grove
same price so yeah
opal bobcat
When I bought it nvme was more
untold grove
lol
opal bobcat
again tho, it does the job
untold grove
m.2 sata 
opal bobcat
well yeah anymore I won't cuz nvme is so much cheaper
when i got mine nvme was like 150 cheapest and I got my sata for like 110
This is also my first pc so
round shoal
m.2 nvme 500gb or 1tb for bootdrive/os? I'm not sure which size to get..
thick mulch
I like a 500 gb m.2 and then a large 7200 rm HDD
untold grove
500gb nvme and 4tb hdd is the sweet spot
round shoal
ooh
untold grove
4tb wd blue is cute
molten kettle
Should I buy my Samsung Evo 970 m.2 drive at pcie gen 3, or get gen 4 for 50$ more
I have an x570 board so I support two pcie gen 4 slots
steady dawn
Samsung Evo 970 somthing
red jay
do you want the extra speed ?
red jay
Should I buy my Samsung Evo 970 m.2 drive at pcie gen 3, or get gen 4 for 50$ mo...
that's the question
i personally think Gen 3 is fine to be honest
steady dawn
yea
molten kettle
Oh ok, yea tbh I don’t mind about speed, it’s just gonna have games on it mostly, and just be as extra storage cause I already have a 2.5 inch ssd for windows
I didn’t know speed was the only difference, thanks!
untold grove
@molten kettle move the os over lol
molten kettle
But don’t I have to like reset my whole pc to do that LOL
I know I only have games so I really don’t care, but like that’s sm downloading time 
molten kettle
Oh awesome, I didn’t know that was possible. I’ll look up how to that when the time comes
molten kettle
True
Ooof now I was looking at a 2 Tb drive cause I really want to yeet my hdd in the trash. But it’s pny not Samsung
Cause it’s the same thing for 50$ cheaper
untold grove
Ewwwwwwwwww pny
steady dawn
budget ?
molten kettle
No LMAO is that bad
untold grove
Samsung, sabrent, wd (sn750 only) and corsair
Also teamgroup but exclusively the mp34
molten kettle
Oh wait I saw a sabrent one I think
untold grove
And tbh teamgroup loses the WORST binned nand out there
Uses*
Sabrent is fantastic
molten kettle
Good?
molten kettle
I’ll see gimme a sec
It won’t send
Sabrent 2TB Rocket NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive (SB-ROCKET-2TB) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07MTQTNVR/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_Mt31FbMJ8SRRJ this one?
It’s like 30$ more which I can do if it’s beneficial enough
molten kettle
Sweet. What’s the extra benefits of tlc?
And I’m assuming sabrent doesn’t give the same thing u said Samsung does to help move windows over.
molten kettle
Oh awesome!
untold grove
Dont quote me on that, might only come with some drives
molten kettle
Ok, all good if it doesn’t
untold grove
Can always use clonezilla or smth
molten kettle
Ok sweet. Also my 2.5 inch ssd is split into two partitions. What I mean is when I go to my pc section in files it says it’s split in two. Two different 250 gig sections for the total 500. I had to do this to make it appear when I first got the drive. Is there anyway to put them back together to make it “one” 500 gig drive again
Or am I stuck with the split I made
tidal beacon
Hi, My grandmother has photos / videos archived. She wants to send her 30 grandkids, a copy on usb drive as she doesn't believe in cloud services. These flash drives have been great to me in the past.... Do you recommend another flash drive for this use case to order in bulk? Looks like I am limited to order 10 ever 48 hours. https://www.newegg.com/corsair-model-cmfvy3a-16gb/p/N82E16820233642
runic crater
that usb is very ugly but it will do the job
tidal beacon
Yes ugly lol I have had one for a while, it has lasted the onslaught on my daily tech bag : )
minor sun
There's also always the external HDD option, like this @tidal beacon
https://www.newegg.com/seagate-model-stea5000402-5tb/p/N82E16822184820
cheaper than buying 10 of those thumb drives, and a whole heck of a lot more storage
tidal beacon
Thank you all for your help
harsh crag
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07MFZY2F2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 $150 a good price or should I hold out? I'm not really in a rush waiting to get a 3080 so might be a few months...
minor sun
Oh sorry misread the question
runic crater
whats better 500gb nvme and 1tb hdd or only 1tb nvme
past peak
1 tb hdd is terrible value imo
past peak
500gb nvme + 2tb hdd is a nice combo
it's up to you at that point if you want to get that or get a 1tb nvme
runic crater
it’s almost the same price
past peak
that's why i said it's up to you
Do you want fast storage in a big quantity? or do you want more storage but some is quickly accessible and the rest is big storage?
runic crater
i think i’ll go with 500+2tb i just want the pc to boot fast and open some games
past peak
sure that works
runic crater
is 970evo good for 500gb?
past peak
yeah it seems to be 60 bucks on newegg
brisk dome
you're gonna fill that 500gb real fast with os + games
I'd recommend a 1tb ssd and then get other storage later
unless you're planning to store a lot of photos/videos, stay away from hard drives
runic crater
you're gonna fill that 500gb real fast with os + games
@brisk dome i just want 2 main games and Windows on the ssd
brisk dome
do you only play 2 games?
untold grove
Hi, My grandmother has photos / videos archived. She wants to send her 30 grandk...
those are great, i also rly like samsung's bar line of usbs
untold grove
do you only play 2 games?
prolly only 2 games where they wanna be competitive
brisk dome
I guess
I would still go all ssd, maybe nvme as a main drive and sata for other games
untold grove
eh
cant beat rust for pure storage
lotta ppl with slow internet will get a bigger hdd and throw like
their whole steam lib on it
and depending what theyre gonna play
will move from their hdd to their ssd when theyre ready to sink lots of time into it
high summit
should i go for the adata xpg sx8200 pro 1tb or the gammix 1tb s11 pro?
untold grove
avoid adata like the plague
scummy manufacturer
and why not get something from team or samsung?
thick mulch
Yeah, or sabrent
untold grove
@high summit oops forgot the ping
sabrent is good but they got expensive
theyre like as much as samsung rn below 2tb
high summit
i see
thick mulch
The only reason I like adata is because they make the only RGB m.2
untold grove
adata is scum
thick mulch
True
untold grove
trash company, never buy from them
heady raven
you are aware you just described ALL companies right?
untold grove
yep
but at least samsung doesnt get their best drive and then change the nand and controller and firmware to objectively worse ones
rancid pike
xpg makes an rgb m.2 as well
heady raven
now you are just being silly
rancid pike
no idea how good it is
thick mulch
Its not
rancid pike
just saying that adata arent the only ones
heady raven
that is just how the storage biz works
thick mulch
I said that earlier
rancid pike
oh wait
heady raven
(not saying it is okay, but that is how it works)
rancid pike
xpg is adata
untold grove
true but
samsung hasnt done it yet
neither has sabrent
team prolly has just cause they seem to scrape bottom of barrel to get good prices
heady raven
all the manufacturers have done "weird" things
untold grove
but my point is, theres other people to go to that have been proven not to lie to and attempt to scam customers
heady raven
its just a question of: does X weird thing affect you?
untold grove
yeah but i feel like this is the worst example of it
heady raven
there is a EVO fault from years ago that would like a chat with you :)
untold grove
at least in the somewhat big brands of the ssd world
lmao trueeeee
the classic 840 issue
untold grove
looks at 840 1tb
also anecdotal but almost every adata ssd ive ever gotten has failed within 2 years
its been in the hundreds lol
i just have less than zero trust for them
for the same price you can get a rocket or a evo
high summit
think i might go with the 970 evo plus
untold grove
thats a good choice
high summit
ye thanks for letting me know tho
shadow smelt
are Crucial/Micron NVMEs good in your experiences?
lethal imp
hello strangers
minor sun
Hello other stranger
thick mulch
I feel like i am missing something here
rustic mountain
@minor sun whats the best pcie4 m2 right now? they have samsung & wd black in stock locally here
minor sun
Sabrent rocket 4 plus > SN850 > 980 pro iirc
rustic mountain
Thanks, they have the SN850 2tb on sale right now for $50 off and the 1tb 980 pro for the same off
rustic mountain
ok next question if I do the sn850 is there a heatsink and non heatsink version like the pcie3 version? If so I assume I need to put it in the slot with the cooler lol
open gazelle
@rustic mountain @minor sun I am 96% sure SN850 ranks top rn
minor sun
@open gazelle I went by ssd mastersheet rated speeds, too lazy to check specifics, so yea.
rustic mountain
Well I guess they have a bunch of the 1tb ones in stock as well may as well get one tomorrow to see how they are https://www.microcenter.com/product/629542/wd-black-sn850-1tb-ssd-3d-nand-m2-2280-pcie-nvme-40-x4-internal-solid-state
abstract gorge
Sabrent rocket 4 plus > SN850 > 980 pro iirc
not true
heady raven
by normal metrics, what Mr1111 said is true.
abstract gorge
and those metrics are?
heady raven
most likely based on the sheet that is in the pins for this channel
molten kettle
I always hear spikes from my hdd, I know they make sounds, but mine was a worse sounding sound. Can I assume that since HD sentinal said my drive is at 100% health that it is truly ok?
The sus sounds have been happening for like 5 months now
while I’m idle or in game. It happens whenever
minor sun
@Secks#9768 my metrics are by the rates read write speeds as listed in the mastersheet,
Sabrent rocket 4 plus: 7000/6850 r/w
Sn850: 7000/5400 r/w
980 pro: 7000/5000 r/w
hazy bridge
SN850 is currently the best one rn
unless the rocket blew benchmarks i never saw
which is likely
minor sun
I'm too lazy to check, I go by rated speeds which are the easiest to check
hazy bridge
fair
rated speeds dont mean jack for games tho cuz half of that stuff is sequential and not deep queue or whatever its called
hazy bridge
huh
hazy bridge
theres me not reading benchmarks
minor sun
Oh and it slaughters everything in atto
hazy bridge
hmm
not planning on getting a gen 4 ssd until directstorage is more than a fab, but R4+ looks like a good start
minor sun
Anyways, the point is for crazy seq speeds for a PCIe 4.0 drive imo
hazy bridge
that is p crazy negl
hazy bridge
yeah, im waiting for direct storage to exist before i even consider it. Ill just take my EX920 boot drive, and some SN550s for games and be happy
minor sun
Fair
hazy bridge
im hoping I get an ex950 2tb for xmas tho
I simp for HP storage
go ahead and laugh
minor sun
I only know 2 people irl with hp SSDs, both had it fail on them in the first ~6 months lel
hazy bridge
huh
i heard their sata stuff is bottom barrel but u/newmaxx uses an ex920 as boot and I learned that after doing research so...heh
minor sun
I think both with ex920s
hazy bridge
oh lmao
minor sun
Ex900
minor sun
Tru
hazy bridge
920 and 950 are really good
avoid the 900
thats why they failed. 900s are bottom barrel
minor sun
I think the other one was a 920
hazy bridge
920s and 950s are p damn good
minor sun
One of em had a 900 the other 920
hazy bridge
oof
minor sun
Oh well it just leaves me a very bad impression of hp drives
hazy bridge
that being said, if you want a good gen 3 ssd, sn550 for budget, then sn750, rocket, ex920/ex950 for slightly higher end (with dram ofc), then 970 if you like to waste money
hazy bridge
corsair?
minor sun
Team
hazy bridge
oh
minor sun
Corsair Mp510 is good though
minor sun
Still can't figure out why I have low write speeds on my mp510 but eh
I'll figure it out one day
hazy bridge
gonna bench my ex920
minor sun
I wouldn't be surprised if it was some random setting
hazy bridge
prolly
ik some drives run better if you flash the firmware with a different drive;'s one
minor sun
But I've spent too much time in the bios and found no settings
hazy bridge
i think i did that with my 920
minor sun
My write speeds are just weird
#storage-devices message
Thought it was thermal throttling for a bit
But even while cool
dusk turtle
Never tested my Sabrent before, I'm impressed.
red jay
can anybody help me find a 20TB (or at least 10TB) SSD?
radiant root
can anybody help me find a 20TB (or at least 10TB) SSD?
yo the read and write speeds are gonna be a lil slow
red jay
im looking for normal SSD, not nvme
dusk turtle
biggest you'll get for non-server hardware is 8 TB at the moment
red jay
yo the read and write speeds are gonna be a lil slow
i have a 300hz g sync monitor i think ima be good and a 8GB graphics card
red jay
biggest you'll get for non-server hardware is 8 TB at the moment
i need for gaming
radiant root
yes
radiant root
hes downloading cod
red jay
and i already have a 27db cooler
dusk turtle
Biggest commercially available is 8 TB at the moment
radiant root
and hes the 10 tb
dusk turtle
and they are $1000
red jay
hes downloading cod
what is cod
radiant root
call of duty
radiant root
ok
dusk turtle
ARK is currently 275 GB so....yeah
red jay
but srsly
dusk turtle
But srsly, no, they aren't that big yet
red jay
i need a NORMAL (not nvme) SSD with at least 1TB
dusk turtle
Those are everywhere
red jay
then i can use half my budget on USB's
red jay
Those are everywhere
what about 5TB?
dusk turtle
no, 2 TB, then 4 TB
radiant root
yea
red jay
ok
radiant root
just get a 2tb ssd
red jay
so 8TB NORMAL SSD is the highest
radiant root
then upgrade
red jay
just get a 2tb ssd
no i am gonna download about 12 apps in the 1st minute
dusk turtle
$1000 or so
dusk turtle
radiant root
that still expensive
red jay
less tho
dusk turtle
Even 2 TB is still $250 or so
red jay
https://www.newegg.com/samsung-8tb-870-qvo-series/p/N82E16820147784?item=9SIA12K...
i can work with this
thanks 😄
shadow smelt
@vast patrol Basically that just means it can't find the path of your WOT file
Go remake the shortcut or open it wherever its stored
and it should be good again 
shadow smelt
@vast patrol It could've been disconnected or unmounted. Is it a desktop or laptop?
vast patrol
oh oof the sata cable got loose
vast patrol
proven zephyr
question. is it possible to transfer data from a 500gb ssd to a 500gb nvme?
minor sun
you could clone the drive
proven zephyr
even with windows on it?
heady raven
yes
proven zephyr
how's that work, as someone new to pc building?
heady raven
the process is like this:
you take a usb stick, and make it into a cloning tool
you then boot from that usb stick. So that you are "outside" of windows.
at that point, the contents of the drives is just data
and you can clone (copy everything) from one drive to the other
does that answer it for you?
heady raven
macrium reflect (the free version) is one tool that can be used for it
proven zephyr
i'm using a 500 gb kingston ssd for holding windows and drivers and other programs like gpu-z and cpu-z on it, and a 2 tb hardrive for everything else like my steam library..
i noticed that my B450 board has one M.2 slot on it.
and i hear that NVMe's are faster and better.
heady raven
its a bit more complicated than that, but close enough :)
you can find bad (slow) m.2 drives and you can find good ones
proven zephyr
Samsung 970?
heady raven
so, if you selected a bad drive, you would not be upgrading much at all
depending on location, a bit overpriced, but a solid enough drive
proven zephyr
i'm deciding on either that or a Crucial P1.
heady raven
mp34/sn750 are what we normally recommend
proven zephyr
ah.
heady raven
the P1 uses something called QLC nand
where the others use TLC
TLC = better and faster
proven zephyr
ahh okay.
noted.
my mobo doesn't have a heat sync on it for the M.2, so is it possible to buy a separate heat sync?
dusk turtle
Yes
heady raven
p1 does not need it
rancid pike
or the 970
heady raven
neither does the others as such
proven zephyr
ah okay.
hazy bridge
you take a usb stick, and make it into a cloning tool
or use macrium lol
did that today actually
heady raven
read further down @hazy bridge
hazy bridge
my b
heady raven
nothing to worry about :)
hazy bridge
im lazy lmao
heady raven
i know :)
heady raven
pray that you dont ever meet me then :P
if the mood takes me, that is a "light" taste of it
astral temple
hello for all I have a question for u I bought CORSAIR RAM at 3600. In practice it gives me 2133. Every time I run XMP in the BIOS and go back to Windows I get a blue screen. What to do?
signal hawk
Hey guys
So I have a problem
I recently bought a 240gb ssd
And A 1tb hard drive and for some reason my 1tb hard drive only has 507 mb I don’t know why but I need help fixing it so I can get my pc up and working
thick mulch
@signal hawk can you go to partition manager?
untold grove
And A 1tb hard drive and for some reason my 1tb hard drive only has 507 mb I don...
it is not partitioned correctly
rustic mountain
Got it on sale for 229.
steady dawn
dang
minor sun
real nice
rustic mountain
Thought it was a good deal
rustic mountain
Well it was 229 before 7% local tax
Same price on Newegg just didn’t have to wait lol
Instant gratification at microcenter is amazing bu sure puts a hurt on the wallet lol.
minor sun
yea
midnight coral
patent oasis