#storage-devices

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heady raven
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@amber glade i have only been talking about the product from amazon you linked earlier :)

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any usb c hub will work for what i am talking about

minor sun
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and also, have you thought about just having 1 4tb ssd in a single enclosure?

heady raven
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that question, brings with it a question from me.

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Have you thought about going with a NAS instead?

amber glade
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I have but the data that I want to store is 6TB

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What is NAS?

heady raven
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Network Attached Storage

minor sun
heady raven
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which you then add mechanical drives to

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keep in mind, that was just a random model

minor sun
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Yea NAS would likely work for much cheaper, just that it'll be quite a bit slower afaik.

heady raven
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the reason for bringing up a NAS as a question/suggestion is this: The amount of data you want to save is in the "this is going to get really really effing expensive" territory for SSD's

minor sun
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true

heady raven
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because you are pushing at the "edge" of what consumer SSD storage capacity is at.

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does all of that make sense @amber glade ?

amber glade
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It does.. but I want to stay away from the drives that spin... Have had bad luck with them

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I like that NAS enclosure

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but could I put SSD in it?

heady raven
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let me put it like this: Drive failure is not something that can be avoided

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it will happen

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it is just a question of "when"

amber glade
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I'd rather avoid it as much as possible.

minor sun
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(SSDs don't have moving parts, but SSDs can die too)

amber glade
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Are SABRENT reliable?

heady raven
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i say the above in case you have a "ssd's cannot die" mindset

minor sun
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:D

heady raven
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everything is unreliable and everything is reliable @amber glade

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and no. i do NOT say that to annoy you

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that is just reality of storage

amber glade
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I get it and I appreciate your help

heady raven
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it is why IF you want to actually have actual backup, you do 3 layer backups

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1 copy on the machine

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1 copy in the house (in another room)

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1 copy offsite (outside of the house)

amber glade
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I have 2 3TB western digital that are 9 years old... I am pushing the limit

heady raven
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(backblaze comes to mind for that)

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re: WD's: that is indeed very much pushing the limit.

minor sun
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By the way Naed, how do you feel raid plays into that?

heady raven
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re: raid: simple question with a very complex answer

minor sun
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I knew it, sadly :(

amber glade
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So... I like the NAS

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what SSD drives would you put in them?

heady raven
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there are NAS that can use SSD's

amber glade
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show me links

heady raven
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they use SATA drives normally

amber glade
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please

minor sun
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Don't you need really good internet for NAS with SSDs?

heady raven
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2sec

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its just sata <- for you Mr1111

minor sun
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(I mean, network attached)

heady raven
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@amber glade

amber glade
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SICK!

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I like it!

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What 2.5 SATA drives do you like?

heady raven
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so yes, price goes up with extra drive bays

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i would start on that list @amber glade

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and start thinking about how much you plan to write to the NAS daily

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because that IS a factor in which drive model you want

amber glade
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Drive model meaning NAS? or you mean the SATA...

heady raven
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The amount of data you want to write to the drives that are in the NAS

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(the drives themselves being SATA drives)

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and with that said, i am out for the night.

amber glade
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thank you!

viral bolt
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@minor sun turns out it was because I hadn't fully deleted all the partitions off my original boot drive, so I put my usb stick back in, deleted all partitions from both SSDs and then reinstalled on the nvme drive.

minor sun
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oh interesting

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that's a weird problem

viral bolt
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It's a bit weird yeah, but it works now

tardy ravine
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what's a good storage around the $120 price range?

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I'd love a fast 2tb anything, but a tb ssd sounds realistic

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for fast rendered/modded gaming mainly

keen urchin
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$120 2tb ssd is gonna be a no go lol

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if i were you

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id get that

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and this

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that way you get 2512GB of storage, 512 of it fast SSD storage and the rest mass harddrive storage, all for $115

tardy ravine
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oou

keen urchin
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if you just want SSD storage, a 1tb Intel 665p or 1tb Crucial p1 would be good

tardy ravine
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gotcha

keen urchin
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thanks for the heart emoji reaction lol, i appreciate it.

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feels kinda nice over other people who paste a google search and dont respond after that

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😦

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anyways

tardy ravine
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are there any good 2.5 connected drives? also i might need to buy new cables for more drives and peep my mobo compatibly for nvme sata 1 through 6 mumbo jumbo

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i was told to return a Samsung tb 860 i think it was

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ill have to check rq

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yeah that was it, at 130

keen urchin
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130 for what capacity

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also idk much about 2.5 inch drives

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i do know theyre close in price, so i would get an m2 over 2.5 for multiple reasons

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m2 is a lot faster, (sata 3 caps at 500mbps roughly and some nvme drives go up to like 5000mbps), theres no wires or cables, and theyre easier to install and take less space

tardy ravine
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1tb evo

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i have an evo m.2 (850?) in my laptop that i can sacrifice after finding a way to backup all 500gb

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ive heard that evo is a good quality vs qvo or a similar WD, but idk

minor sun
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Also, 1tb Team MP34 for 110$.

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3000/2600 rated r/w, has dram, great controller.

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Also tlc, with an absurd rated write endurance.

clear kernel
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Im putting together a part list for a friend of mine, and I want to include an SSD, but itll only be used as a boot drive. Does anyone here have any recommendations?

minor sun
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Mp34 512gb :)

clear kernel
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Would there be any difference between the 256gb and the 512gb? Other than capacity anyways?

minor sun
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Capacity, some write speed differences, higher writes on the 512gb drive.

topaz prism
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@minor sun @heady raven okay so I have a question for either of you, is it worth it to get a pci express 4 over pci express 3 ssd. Would 4 be that much faster cuz it's kinda expensive and I was hoping to save money on my m.2 ssd.

minor sun
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No

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gen 4 is not good for consumers

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too expensive

topaz prism
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So I don't need gen 4 kinda speed? It feels like it's double the price

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And I'd rather spend around 50 range on a 512 gb ssd

heady raven
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for a gaming machine, the software ecosystem is NOT there yet (for gen4 to make sense)

topaz prism
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Okay thank you @heady raven @minor sun

jade ocean
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Naed got a NAS just today thanks for your help

heady raven
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you are very weclome @jade ocean , best of luck with it :)

past hornet
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hi, i have a gaming laptop. The acer nitro 5 an515-55 50z3. Basically, there is only 8gb ram and i want to add another 8 gb but im not sure what to buy. i just wanna make sure its compatible with my laptop

loud estuary
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Take it apart or look at the specs to see if you have a second slot

past hornet
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i do

loud estuary
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Than try to get the same model of ram if you can

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Otherwise try to match the timings and speed

bitter mauve
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Hey does anyone have any troubleshooting tips for sata and m.2 devices not showing up? one of my m.2 slots works but I can't get anything else to work, I know for sure that both my m.2 drive and sata ssd are working

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I had a second m.2 working for a while but after a reboot a little while back it stopped working

latent cedar
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Hey I have a question. Why is the 1tb 860 evo SATA ssd more expensive then some 1 tb nvme ssds

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If the nvme are faster

full geode
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Samsung ssds are overpriced

tiny totem
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^

sonic river
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I'm looking for a memory upgrade

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How risky are Referbs?

short lodge
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memory is hard to break. Refurb should be 100% fine

sonic river
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Hawt.

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I'm scrolling Newegg and it has a 4TB refurb for decent price

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I want it for Games

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Because the new games have massive updates and it eats up my memory like no tomorrow

short lodge
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oh you mean storage?

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you said memory

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memory is RAM

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id go new if you can for hard drives and SSDs

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@sonic river

sonic river
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Oh ok

vagrant harness
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Anyone got recommendations for ssd, nvme, or m.2 drives around 100USD

latent cedar
minor sun
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Yes

latent cedar
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@minor sun does it come with a 5 year warranty?

minor sun
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3 years iirc

latent cedar
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Oh ok cause it says 5 on it

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It seems like it’s on a good deal rn

minor sun
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Might be wrong

latent cedar
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What do you look for in SATA ssds

keen blade
minor sun
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@latent cedar dram.

latent cedar
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How can I tell if one has some or not. Because I don’t see liek a specific “dram” location. So I don’t know what to look for

loud estuary
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Check the pins :)

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Spreadsheet is linked

minor sun
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@latent cedar ssd master list :)

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Manually check em

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And I just know Team Vulcan tends to be the cheapest drive with dram

latent cedar
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Master list? And oof ok. So if I see one I’m interested in. I should just look up if it has dram

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?

minor sun
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Ya

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Look pinned message in channel

latent cedar
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Oh shoot. I didn’t know that existed. Thanks lmao

red jay
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What's better mp34 or 970 evo if the prices are the same for me?

minor sun
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@red jay check pricing for sn750 and sx8200 pro too then

red jay
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But which is the best/fastest

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Ok the sx8200 pro is pretty cheap for 1tb

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In my store

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Is it good?

minor sun
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Yes

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All of them are basically the same

red jay
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Alright
Seems to get good reviews, fast
Thanks. Now I can afford 1gb lol

short lodge
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1gb

red jay
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Oof

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I meant 1 tb

late vector
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Lmaooo if u could only affort 1 gb lmaoo

open gazelle
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1gb be pretty pricy these days. Dont even want to imagine 1tb

mellow magnet
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250mb seems more like his price range. 1gb is expensive

rugged goblet
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Im going to buy a m.2 ssd, so can people give me reccommendations?

late vector
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Team mp34 512 gb

rugged goblet
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is it a boot drive too?

late vector
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Yea

rugged goblet
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cuz like I have a hdd rn

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I want to get a ssd and make it my boot drive

late vector
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Mm yea way faster

rugged goblet
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Does it have a cloning software?

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or just cloning in general

late vector
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?? Idk

rugged goblet
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Cuz I need to clone, thats what people are saying

late vector
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Clone? Idk if it has it or not

rugged goblet
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hm ok

late vector
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@minor sun does the team mp34 have cloning

rugged goblet
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So, if I get a ssd, should I clone it or install windows fresh

short lodge
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Fresh install is always better

rugged goblet
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but like

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I dont want to wait

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that long to install

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so should I just clone it instead

short lodge
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Cloning will take longer than just installing windows

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Installing windows takes like 5 minutes

rugged goblet
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mm

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ok

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bruh, why is storage so confusing

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so

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When I install windows on my ssd

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and boot up

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cuz i have a hdd

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does it delete everything on my hdd

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?

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or does it stay

short lodge
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Well, it’s not like all your data from the hard drive is just automatically on the ssd

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The data stays on the hard drive. It’s not gone, but the SSD doesn’t have it

rugged goblet
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ok

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so when I boot up, I could immediately play csgo?

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or no

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ok nvm

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So when I get my ssd

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Do I have to format it first then install windows

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or just install windows

short lodge
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You should be able to just install windows

latent barn
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Can i have windows on 2 ssds and boot from one

short lodge
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Technically yeah

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It can prove to be problematic from my experience

latent barn
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hmmm

rugged goblet
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So, I use a USB Stick that has windows and boot up on my ssd

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?

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Is that correct?

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then install it on my ssd

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si?

short lodge
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Yeah

latent barn
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im getting nvme ssd and have old ssd with windows so can i boot from old ssd and copy windows from old ssd to new

short lodge
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K

latent barn
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is it possible

round echo
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your question was answered

rugged goblet
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ok, my plan
Step 1. Buy ssd
Step 2. Install the ssd
Step 3. Get a USB Stick
Step 4. Make the boot priority the usb stick
Step 5. Install windows on the SSD
Step 6. Done

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Wait

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How big should the USB stick be?

latent barn
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i can just ctrl+a all my files into new ssd right

minor sun
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@rugged goblet you'll need to boot from usb to install it.

latent barn
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or do i need to download something

minor sun
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And 16gb will do fine

rugged goblet
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ok

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well, im not building a new pc

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im upgrading it

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cuz rn i have a hdd

minor sun
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Mhm

rugged goblet
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So I make the usb stick the boot

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?

minor sun
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When installing ya

rugged goblet
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mk

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so after im done installing windows, do I have to go back to the bios and make the boot priority the ssd?

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or no

minor sun
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Sure

rugged goblet
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sure?

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wat

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ok

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then ill do it

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ok

minor sun
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Ok

rugged goblet
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do ssd's speed up your pc process?

latent barn
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yep

rugged goblet
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mm

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ok

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no wonder why my pc slow rn

latent barn
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boots faster

rugged goblet
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ok

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well thank

minor sun
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Overall system responsiveness.

rugged goblet
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yeah i figured

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lol

normal bramble
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what is the best price to performance (boot speed) m.2?

minor sun
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@normal bramble Team MP34, 63$ for 512gb, 110$ for 1tb.

normal bramble
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ty

crisp ibex
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My SSD might be to fast for HHD as it crashes whenever I try use stuff located on it when it's waking up from sleep.

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?

full geode
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That’s not possible

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Actually wait that might be possible

latent barn
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dont use sleep then

minor sun
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That isn't how it works

latent barn
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ok

minor sun
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SSD being faster than the HDD doesn't really change anything about sleep

drowsy musk
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Quick question, what is the difference between these two SSDs? They are pretty much the same price.

minor sun
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@drowsy musk what about neither

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1 is sata, 1 is NVMe, and the NVMe one doesn't have dram

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both are bad

drowsy musk
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I just want to install windows on it

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Also do you have a recommendation for a good one to use instead?

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@minor sun

heady raven
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@drowsy musk team mp34

minor sun
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Naed beat me to it xD

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for canada pricing, sx8200 pro from a glance @drowsy musk

drowsy musk
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oh okay

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thanks to you both

minor sun
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mp34 has a great price for 80% of regions

sharp sun
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is tiered storage worth it?

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im planning to combine a 2.5 ssd with some harddrive storage so things i put there wont load slow

supple yew
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depends what you're doing/wanting to do -- and your budget -- hard drives are great for media that you don't need low latency and massive bandwidth...

clever marsh
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Amazon and Kingston are having decent sales on SSDs and HDDs today. I just bought a 2TB SSD from Kingston for $160

short lodge
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but does it have dram

crude orchid
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What PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs are sale currently

minor sun
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Is there a reason you need PCIe 4.0?

crude orchid
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faster speeds

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also i wanna take advantage of my mobo's PCIe 4.0 capability

minor sun
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Why exactly do you need the speeds for over a 3.0 ssd?

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Because most people have no reason to grab a 4.0 ssd over a 3.0 ssd.

crude orchid
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i don't really have a main reason i just want faster boot/loading times for gaming and to use my mobo's 4.0 capabilities

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i haven't really looked into ssds too much so I'm not sure of the difference

minor sun
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The reason I'm warning you because 3.0 vs 4.0 have imperceivable differences in booting and loading games

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@crude orchid anyways I just wanted to make sure you know. If your answer is "I just want fancy thing to flex", that's fine, I'd be happy to help, but only as long as you know if makes little difference.

crude orchid
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Oh ok that makes more sense are 1TB 4.0 ssds priced high?

minor sun
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Pcie 4.0 SSDs generally are around double the price of 3.0 SSDs for the same capacity lol

crude orchid
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Damn and 3.0s can be up to 200 sometimes

minor sun
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For example, last I checked, sabrent rocket 4.0 1tb is 180$, when MP34, a good pcie 3.0 ssd, 1tb is 110$

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You gotta know the market and what SSDs tend to be good and cheap :)

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And throw samsung out of the window when considering SSDs

crude orchid
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haha yeah from what I've seen they're usually pretty expensive

solar ridge
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Is it worth getting a Samsung 970 EVO plus for $60 more than an Intel 660p?

heady raven
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samsung drives are generally NOT worth getting

solar ridge
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How come?

minor sun
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Overpriced.

solar ridge
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I’ve heard a lot of good things about the 970 evo @heady raven

minor sun
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There are other options at the same specs for cheaper :D

heady raven
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aye. and that is the only reason that the price is what it is.

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it was a reasonable price when it was launched

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but it is a OLD drive by now

solar ridge
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So it’s not worth $60 more over a 660p?

heady raven
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no

minor sun
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But, there are some other options we would point you towards

solar ridge
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Great someone just told me in the nzxt chat that it is

minor sun
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Such as the Team MP34 and WD SN750

solar ridge
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1tb? Nvm?

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E

minor sun
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I'm gonna guess 95% of the NZXT chat don't know about mp34 :p

heady raven
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@solar ridge IF the person you talked to is "just" looking at spec numbers? sure

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if the person is looking at actual reality? no

minor sun
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(hey, pure spec wise, SN750 beats 970evo)

solar ridge
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That wd one is $250

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But on sale for $120

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For 1tb

heady raven
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yes @minor sun because again, age

minor sun
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Mp34 is 110$ for 1tb, both of those are good options.

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Yea, just pointing out it isn't the "best speced" nowadays

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Sn750 preferred a bit over mp34.

small steppeBOT
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solar ridge
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Great I just typed so much and it marked it as a repeat

heady raven
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sorry mate

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that is the anti-spam feature at work

upper quiver
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if you have more than one hyperlink the bot sometimes blocks the message

solar ridge
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so what i wanted to type was

my options are
WD_Black SN750 for $120 (currently $130 off)
Intel 660p $110 (currently $20 off)
Samsung 970 EVO Plus $170 (currently $82 off)
@heady raven @minor sun

upper quiver
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SN750 ez

minor sun
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Sn750

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Easy pick

heady raven
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aye, between those 3, 750 is the easy choice :)

solar ridge
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ok then 750 it is

digital cypress
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Anyone know if a 2tb Samsung 980 nvme is going to release?

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I kinda wanna switch out my 970 evo plus bc 2x the speeds but there isn't a big boy size one yet

rose token
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Hello! I recently purchased 2x SAMSUNG 983 DCT Series U.2 2.5" NVMe SSDs (https://www.newegg.ca/samsung-983-dct-960gb/p/0D9-0009-003P0?Description=SAMSUNG 983 DCT&cm_re=SAMSUNG_983 DCT-_-9SIAA4YB1M8534-_-Product) and I was wondering if there were cables, enclosures or racks that could allow me to use them as external drives with my computer (Macbook pro with USB-c) ports. I bought them for my new Blackmagic URSA 12k camera that recommends these SSDs, but I'm looking for a solution that will allow me to read and write them on my computer as well. Btw I made some research oh the web but found it pretty complicated to find the right answers for my needs, so any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

upper quiver
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please tell me you didnt buy them from this link

rose token
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Hmmm, I did, is that an issue !?!?

upper quiver
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you paid wayyy too much

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also, buying from a third party seller on newegg is always a bad thing

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why the hell are these drives so expensive in canada?

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going by the current conversion rates, they should only be like 260 cad

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anyway, they are U.2 form factor. what macbook do you have specifically

rose token
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(which comes to the same price than Newegg for me 😛 )

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for my computer, I use a MacBook Pro (13-inch, 2018, Four Thunderbolt 3 Ports)

upper quiver
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so you cant go from Thunderbolt to U.2. you need a controller

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meaning you need to get a Thunderbolt to Mini-SAS controller, then a Mini-SAS to U.2 cable

rose token
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thank you for this information, it's appreciated! for the Mini-SAS to U.2 cable, do I need to be careful about the quality of the product for reading/writing speeds and to avoid damages to my drives or it's usually pretty standard basic cables?

upper quiver
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any cable will do

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also, beware that Mini-SFF is a generic term

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theres a specific type you need let me find it

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its an SFF-8643 connector

rose token
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wow, thanks again for your quick and helpful answers, that's very appreciated. I'll keep you updated if I have any more questions (or answers) ! thanks again and have a good evening 🙂

open gazelle
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@digital cypress last I checked 980 was just meh in real world perf, AKA random perf. Not worth much of at all tbf

waxen oriole
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anyone have any advice for switching from a SSD to m.2 without having to re-install the OS. Is it possible to clone my c drive on the new m.2?

solar ridge
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this is along with a WD_Black N750 that i bought already

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i could also just put the extra $30 for a 4TB BarraCuda its $80 where as the WD one is $84
$84 for 2 TB

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or is 5TB overkill

digital cypress
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@open gazelle ah, I was just seeing numbers like 3300ish read/write on the 970 compared to like 6xxx read/write on the 980 thats why I was wondering

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But if those aren't realistic numbers then

hoary plume
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anyone on?

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I have a quick question about m2 and nvme stuff?

digital cypress
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Ask away i think some of the smart ppl are awake

hoary plume
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is it worth going for a nvme mount in pcie 4?

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bc i have an nvme on the mobo right now and am considering getting another for more storage

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but i only have one mount on the mobo and don't really want to change it and clog it with games alongside the os

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bc yknow cod is massive

digital cypress
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@hoary plume do u have a spare pcie slot u can put an expansion card into to make more slots / connections?

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That could be an idea

hoary plume
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yeah, i only have one graphics in rn

supple yew
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@waxen oriole some SSD brands come with a clone utility -- i use adata SSDs a lot and it comes with acronis true image oem, i've used auto on probably 40 machines with 0 problems, clone the existing system drive to the new ssd even if it's a different size, power down, disconnect the old drive to test, then wipe the old drive or disable the active flag to prevent the system from booting it

digital cypress
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@hoary plume if u wanted to go m.2 nvme or additional nvme then yea id probably do expansion card

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I could be wrong if I am someone will probably correct me soon

supple yew
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@hoary plume no -- pcie 4.0 has no real benefit right now. real world performance gains of 3.0 vs 4.0 drives is virtually non existent -- oh wow your game loaded in 12.32 instead of 12.39 seconds... waste of money

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@hoary plume you can also plug an nvme into any pcie slot, even a 1x.

hoary plume
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yeah, i understand the negligible advantage of 4.0 over 3.0, but isnt pcie faster than a normal hard drive mount?

supple yew
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SSD is faster than mechanical hdd -- even SATA ssd

hoary plume
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that's roghly my mobo but the wifi version

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i mean like an ssd plugged in normally, would it be faster to get a pcie converter for the nvme or an ssd mount type of thing

supple yew
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@hoary plume you can connect 1 nvme natively -- and 7 total with adapters -- and 8 SATA SSDs

hoary plume
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yeah

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so should i go for a sata adapter or a pcie adapter i guess is the real question

digital cypress
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I think pcie for speed

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Imo

supple yew
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"faster" in numbers -- but real world, you won't notice

hoary plume
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yeah, plus i was considering that if i get one of the dual ones that do pcie and sata, i can leave the sata open for later upgrades

supple yew
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typical windows boot time with a mech hdd is 55 seconds... sata ssd is 11.9, nvme is 11.6

hoary plume
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such as that one, not the one im considering but an example

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so then which pcie mount would you suggest, or is any one just about good?

supple yew
#

that adapter is also a waste of money as "good" nvme ssds won't support sata

hoary plume
#

that's fair

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so a single one that is for pcie is fine then?

#

and is m, b, or m&b recommended?

supple yew
#

sata ssd's offer a better cost to performance ratio -- if you want "fast enough" and "more storage" for the money, sata ssd all the way -- if you want raw performance, where capacity and price isn't as important nvme

hoary plume
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so going for another ssd would be better than going all the way for a new nvme? all ill be doing is installing massive games to clear some space up

supple yew
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i'd get a 256-512gb nvme for the OS/boot/primary apps -- and a cheaper sata SSD for the rest of the games and download temp, while saving mechanical drives for bulk media storage

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board has 8 sata ports, used them for cheap but fast SSD

hoary plume
#

yeah i have an 960 evo 256 for os and apps and stuff, then two other ssds for my fames currently

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fair enough, any suggestions then

supple yew
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check out youtube for some sata vs nvme benchmarks loading times

hoary plume
#

alrighty

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i have a crucial mx500 1tb as well as an 860 evo ssd for games currently

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im considering another mx500

supple yew
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and for games, you can stripe your SATA ssd's

hoary plume
#

?

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what does stripe mean?

supple yew
#

your OS can address 2 or more drives in unison, splitting the load across multiple similar/identical drives

hoary plume
#

interesting, would they have to be identical drives?

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or could i do that with two new ssds?

supple yew
#

normally you'd want some redundancy in case of a drive failure -- but if it's just install data, you can always re-download

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doesn't have to be identical -- but preferably the same drive or at least similar models and sizes

hoary plume
#

fair enough

supple yew
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if you stripe a 500gb and a 1tb drive you get 1tb usable

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if you stripe 2 1tb drives, you get 2tb usable

hoary plume
#

I might go for two 500gb drives

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any brand or model recommendations?

supple yew
#

honestly adata is affordable and works great, this machine has adata and intel nvmes, my work laptop, media center, NAS servers, all use adata SSDs in sata or nvme

hoary plume
#

alrighty, i've seen them around i'll definitely check them out

supple yew
#

and most of their drives come bundled with acronis true image oem if you register them

hoary plume
#

noice

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i also like the crucial series

supple yew
#

if you haven't purchased the motherboard yet, you might be able to find one with 2 or more nvme slots for a similar price btw

hoary plume
#

i have the build, i can send it in build pics

supple yew
#

already purchased the mobo?

hoary plume
#

yeah

supple yew
#

ah

hoary plume
supple yew
#

if it will fit, i'd top mount that radiator or flip it so the hoses bibs on the rad are at the bottom

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love the "IDGAF" led strips 😛

hoary plume
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yeah i want to but i also want to go for a newer nzxt cooler with the lcd, then worry about moving everything around

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facts

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they're hella long

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they go all under my desk and along side my monitor

small steppeBOT
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HolyCannoli | MECE#2587 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

hoary plume
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oops

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syncs with all my razer stuff

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got this build off a guy who did image processing for a little, so its pretty decent, just added the ram and a drive

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pretty sick tho

supple yew
#

i personally don't care about the RGB but had headers and some strips laying around -- threw it in there just for fun

hoary plume
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fair enough

supple yew
#

waiting for my phase change cooler to ship soon

hoary plume
#

noice

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so, to sum it up, i should go for a new ssd instead of going through the whole process of getting a mount and nvme

supple yew
#

looks like you have space and support for plenty of SATA SSDs -- youtube "nvme vs sata ssd game load times" if you're curious -- nvme and sata SSD game load times are almost identical -- some games identical -- some 1-2 seconds vs double or more with a mech hdd

hoary plume
#

yeah, definitely not considering a mech hdd

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either ssd or nvme

#

maybe for mass storage or something they're decent, but even then you're safer getting an ssd

supple yew
#

i'm one to consider the Value, not just the price -- if i can get a 2tb SATA ssd for the same price as a 1TB nvme ssd -- and it's going to be used for mostly games, and i won't see a real benefit -- i'll get the SATA SSD for bulk fast storage on the cheap

hoary plume
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exactly

#

alrighty, thanks, I wasn't sure where to go and i figured there'd be some tech people on here

flat edge
#

Hello. I'm trying to locate an enclosure for a Samsung MLC PCI Express 3.0 x4 M.2 2280 Internal Solid State Drive from a 2015 MacBook Pro. I've had no luck finding anything that's physically compatible with the form factor and would appreciate the help.

wintry trail
minor sun
#

Heyo, A55 is dramless, usually Team Vulcan is the cheapest good one with dram.

wintry trail
#

well i currently have a hard drive, my computer is slow, gotten slower recently, someone said my hard drive might be dying, ive had this computer for 3 years, no upgrades, it is a prebuilt

minor sun
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Gotcha, but dram is very important for SSDs

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without dram, they can fairly quickly become even slower than HDDs through standard wear

wintry trail
#

If you don’t mind, could you link an ssd with dram

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That isn’t too exp

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Expensive

minor sun
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this is the vulcan, I have to go for a bit, there is a sheet that's linked in the pinned message, look that over for drives with dram :) @wintry trail
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QQT471T

swift turret
#

I'm looking to build a nas and was wondering whether to go with iron wolf's or wd red's.

minor sun
#

Pretty sure they have a list of recommended drives in there somewhere

swift turret
#

ty

minor sun
topaz prism
#

@minor sun this would still work in an AMD board right>

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?

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just double checking

minor sun
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Yes, but why

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MP34 1tb is 110$

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for faster speeds

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and tlc

topaz prism
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Explain what all that is

minor sun
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it's faster

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it has better structure

topaz prism
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i just liked this one cuz it was an M.2 NVME with promo code at 90 bucks

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how much faster would the MP34 be?

minor sun
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it's 2000mb/s read compared to 3000mb/s read to start off

topaz prism
#

Oh thats substantial

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hmmmm

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still kinda a good price

warm meteor
#

I was just going to ask about SSD's again. i need one. my 5 year old hybrid drive is goign slow as hell and prime day deals right

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would there be a super noticable difference between 2k and 3k mb/s on these?

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and i think someone said i should clean install winblows on it but can use the hybrid drive for loading software or something? I kidn of want to copy it over to an SSD to get this thing snappy

kind steppe
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@warm meteor honestly no

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it's got diminishing returns over time

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once ur above 500 mb/s, in my opinion, you're golden

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anything above is luxury

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if you can afford it, go for it

warm meteor
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gotcha thanks

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and that one mr1111 linked is probably best right now?

kind steppe
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yea

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if u can afford it

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again

warm meteor
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looking on the spreadsheet and i see its been updated

kind steppe
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anything over 500-600 mb/s is luxury

warm meteor
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kk cool

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thanks

kind steppe
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so yea go for it

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np

torpid adder
#

There are good NVMe drives that are the same price as good SATA drives

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So if you don't have any way of using NVMe, no M.2 slot that supports it, you can just get a 2.5" SATA drive

minor sun
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But most modern boards have M.2.
It's the old bois that don't have M.2

torpid adder
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I got a Blue 3D NAND 500GB 2.5" drive, since I don't have fancy pants NVMe

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Yes

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Even very basic ones in prebuilts

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There's some higher end Haswell boards that have M.2 slots which is interesting

cosmic pier
#

yeah but is there a real benefit to real world usage between 2.5 inch ssd and and nvme

heady raven
#

@torpid adder the haswell boards are mSata iirc

cosmic pier
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because my friend has an nvme drive and i have a sata drive and he cant tell the difference between the 2

minor sun
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There are benefits

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they're small for real-world-performance

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but it's definitely there

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SATA vs NVMe for real world boot and load times are single digit seconds

torpid adder
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I don't think I've seen mSATA ones Naed

minor sun
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@cosmic pier the differences really show when you try moving big boi files around :D

cosmic pier
#

oh well then i wont notice anything

heady raven
minor sun
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@cosmic pier mhm, it's a lot of "won't notice, but you shave a few seconds off each time" kind of thing.

torpid adder
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Bottom isn't mSATA right?

heady raven
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buttom was m.2

torpid adder
#

Yeah most of these Haswell boards I'm seeing have M.2s

heady raven
#

link one?

torpid adder
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With the one key that NVMe uses

heady raven
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or at least give me a model number

torpid adder
heady raven
#

yeah yeah, the pcie x2 slots

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i had "forgotten" (suppressed really) that they existed

torpid adder
#

Ah

heady raven
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yes, its technically good/nice that they are around

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but its a daft implementation imo

#

its basically double sata speed

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as in, limit is 1 GB/s

torpid adder
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Oh that's not bad

warm meteor
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have an Asus x570 mobo

kind steppe
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@warm meteor overpriced

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for 100$ u can get 1 tb nvme drive

torpid adder
warm meteor
#

think the samsung is over priced and maniac you're asking if that ones good? I'm also curious if it has a heatsink it probably really needs it right?

torpid adder
#

I'm asking if that's the one you were referring to as the one linked before ^^

warm meteor
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ohhh sorry no the one to the left

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whoops. but the 1TB one

torpid adder
#

The MP34 is the go to for a lot of people

warm meteor
#

could probably get away with the 512 put windows, trading software and games on it to load then save other stuff to the hybrid drive i guess

torpid adder
#

Yeah

warm meteor
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cool

torpid adder
#

I have 500GB/1TB formatted to ~480GB/930GB I think

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Decent amount of space

warm meteor
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ok good

void willow
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hey guys, my P34A80 1TB is technically rated at 3,400 MB/s sequential reads and 3,000 MB/s sequential writes, but I'm only getting ~2600 MB/s read and ~1400 MB/s write in CrystalDiskMark. I know that the speeds are already way faster than I'll ever need, but I just wanna know whether there's something I'm missing here. The drive's inserted into the NVMe m.2 slot on my mobo and is my boot drive.

minor sun
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Look around, I had something similar, and went through a ton of things and got mine up to higher writes lel

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@void willow how long have you used it for?

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What I did myself was use sdelete and zero out the free space, since I used the drive quite often as a boot drive
#storage-devices message

void willow
#

What I did myself was use sdelete and zero out the free space, since I used the drive quite often as a boot drive
@minor sun i'll try this out! only been using it for around 6 months or so

minor sun
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Mm don't run it several times, because doing it makes the SSD write a whole bunch of stuff

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Don't want to wear it out more than it has to be

void willow
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yep - just doing it once

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~65% done

digital cypress
#

Oh man idk if this is the place to ask but is there a micro sd card thats 512+ gb that's actually 160mb/s

#

I tried some SanDisk ones that advertised that but they only hit 97mb/s in crystal disk

tranquil finch
minor sun
#

MP34 512gb, Seagate Barracuda 2tb

red jay
#

Hi so my dads cpu died (yes I tried to replace the psu alr) My dad has files on his hdd that are important, how can I save them?

latent barn
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just take out the hdd and put them in new pc

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@red jay

red jay
#

Will the data transfer?

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And will windows just boot up with the new pc?

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@latent barn

latent barn
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data should transfer

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and it will boot with new pc IF windows is installed on it

red jay
#

Alr then thank you

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@latent barn

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My dad is asking if I can jus buy a new cpu

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And put it in instead of make a whole new build?

latent barn
#

maybe

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mobo could be fried

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but prob not

red jay
#

Ahhh

latent barn
red jay
#

What would happen if I the mobo is fried and I installed a new cpu

latent barn
#

dont know

red jay
#

Yah I alr bought a new power supply

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No work

latent barn
#

watch the video and find ur problem

red jay
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Only 1 stick of ram sooooo

#

Alr

latent barn
#

Salvage what u can

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a dead cpu can fry the socket

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also dead mobo can fry cpu but not likely

#

what socket is ur mobo

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you would be safe if u bought new mobo, cpu, and optional ram

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@red jay

modern osprey
#

hey so my hdd is a goner
i download windows on my ssd when i first built it
but after i took my hdd out, it says cant find boot device
i set the boot priority and it gives me an option to choose the ssd but it keeps saying cant find it
if you know a solution could you please tell me because its stressing me out

latent barn
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reinstall

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unplug and replug stuff

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Connected to ssd

heady raven
#

@modern osprey a reinstall is the only simple.

west charm
#

What would be a good 1 TB SSD and 1TB NVME?

topaz prism
#

By SSD you mean an internal mounted SATA? Or an M.2 SATA?

shut furnace
#

not sure if there is anything better than the mp34 for the price atm

minor sun
#

sx8200 pro was good price

shut furnace
#

oh ya that look good too

west charm
#

@topaz prism sorry for the ping, I've been have a busy couple of days, but one of each.

heady raven
#

@brazen hamlet okay, it should be a bit more quiet here

radiant tapir
#

Naed

brazen hamlet
#

hi

radiant tapir
#

Can u help me after please

brazen hamlet
#

hi

heady raven
#

@radiant tapir have actual patience.

brazen hamlet
#

there... it works

heady raven
#

hello :)

#

sorry to ask you to go over things again. but this is just a bit more coherent

brazen hamlet
#

I've got a budding YT channel... it's gaining a lot of steam and generating a lot of buzz... but my current computer is failing misearably... it's 5 years old

#

so it needs to run obs

heady raven
#

noted.

brazen hamlet
#

but I'm not streaming out... I do the whole thing live to tape

#

nvidia is a must

#

2 m.2 cards are a must

#

3 would be better

#

one for the os

#

I can put it together... but I only do this about every five years

heady raven
#

one for scratch and one for editing

#

yes, basically a normal editing setup :)

brazen hamlet
#

yea

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I need that 4k hdmi capture card for my camera

heady raven
#

noted

brazen hamlet
#

and the obs deck is just a luxury

#

can buy it right now but need to be sure I'm doing it right and as you said earlier... or someone said... the graphics card can be tricky to acquire at the moment. That is a pretty critical thing.

heady raven
#

noted

#

and

#

re: GPU: the "problem/challenge" is that there is a new card on the way, so the inventories are being emptied out of the 500-ish and above cards

#

meaning, some of them are seeing some very silly price hikes (for no real reason except scarcity)

brazen hamlet
#

I see.

#

the machine I have now works... but poorly.

#

So I could wait... but it's a challenge.

heady raven
#

question: the gpu requirement of nvidia: is this because of nvenc?

brazen hamlet
#

yea... and they've got a while bunch of support on getting your obs settings proper... I really like that... I can do that.

heady raven
#

fair

brazen hamlet
#

when I do these interviews

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and I'm being recorded at a different lag than my subject

#

when I fix it in post

heady raven
#

(and please note, i personally dont care one bit what parts you use, just trying to understand your reasoning, so i can better help you)

brazen hamlet
#

sometimes it's as if I'm cutting them off before they finish.

#

it's subtle but when you're interviewing someone... it's very uncomfortable and nothing I can do to fix it.

heady raven
#

re: cutting off before they finish: part of that is interview experience with a given setup

brazen hamlet
#

yea... using ndi through skype and my own hdmi capture... both are being recorded differently... no way around that... so I need computing resources that are better and can keep up better so it's not as visible.

heady raven
#

aye aye :)

#

2sec, i am bootstrapping a pcpartpicker list for you on the other screen

brazen hamlet
#

perfect. Thank you.

heady raven
#

currently you have how much ram?

brazen hamlet
#

64 bg

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gb

#

I'd want to max it out

heady raven
#

max is 128 on consumer boards

brazen hamlet
#

k...

heady raven
#

sorry for the delay @brazen hamlet

#

try and click that

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that is a start.

#

it is basically what you listed, but filled in with a cpu and ram too

brazen hamlet
#

NICE!!!!!!!!!!

#

3 m.2?

heady raven
#

aye, as you asked for

brazen hamlet
#

I'm just going to buy this...

heady raven
#

hang on

#

a couple of questions first

brazen hamlet
#

missing a graphics card though, no?

heady raven
#

aye, i have not tackled that part yet

brazen hamlet
#

gotcha

heady raven
brazen hamlet
#

this looks phenomenal so far

#

so... the card reader is a nice to have but not required... I have externals

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and the usb3 card... I always need usb's... if it's clogging up a pcie port or if I don't have enough... I can live without that

heady raven
#

you have plenty, the reason i ask is that you have much much faster options available to you "from the board" itself

brazen hamlet
#

ah... okay...

heady raven
#

both of those options are usb 3

#

this is fair and all

#

but IF you want, there are the usb3.2 ports both on the back of the board and internally you can connect to

brazen hamlet
#

I can do without the card reader... I have a million of those external... and hardly use them any way

heady raven
#

you can have whatever you want. you are the one that is going to use the system after all :)

#

and there is plenty of space

#

its just a question of deciding on parts :)

brazen hamlet
#

keep the usb card

#

kill the card reader

heady raven
#

done and done

#

any specific requirement for the case?

#

quiet and black?

brazen hamlet
#

dont really care about lights and all that... priority is to be quiet and big so I'm now squishing during the build

heady raven
#

i like you more and more :)

brazen hamlet
#

lol

#

the feeling is mutual. You're really helping me a lot...

heady raven
#

try and have a look at that

brazen hamlet
#

nice

heady raven
#

(note, the version i am looking at is the one without a window)

brazen hamlet
#

that's cool

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prefer that any way

heady raven
#

its a fairly big case

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simple design

#

and i am yet to meet a Fractal Design case that is not nice to build in

brazen hamlet
#

cool...

heady raven
#

if you close the old list

#

then here is the updated list (still missing the GPU)

brazen hamlet
#

great... lemme look

#

yea... what about the warnings on the bottom about ram measurements and cpu cooler?

heady raven
#

the cpu cooler one does not matter, that is a legacy one

brazen hamlet
#

ram should be okay too?

heady raven
#

aye

brazen hamlet
#

also... do I need to order these all from different venders?

heady raven
#

if not, the only change that needs to happen is you shift the fan on the cooler up or switch sides with it

#

it looks like a mix of amazon and newegg

#

we can "force" it to only look at once vendor if you like, but there is a fair chance price will either jump a lot OR some things wont be available

#

but, let me just have a serious look at the GPU part

brazen hamlet
#

I can get them from two venders... not a problem

heady raven
#

what requirement to do you have (port wise) on the GPU?

brazen hamlet
#

I need at least three ports... hdmi or display port... I'm running three monitors... one teleprompter and two displays

heady raven
#

you can make do just fine with a single hdmi right?

#

and the rest being DP?

brazen hamlet
#

sure

#

that's just a cable issue

#

dp to hdmi or what ever

heady raven
#

aye

#

again, its better to ask you, because you are the one with the knowledge :)

#

(bad to assume things)

brazen hamlet
#

agreed

heady raven
#

your current machine, what GPU does it have?

brazen hamlet
#

gtx980Ti

heady raven
#

hm

#

@brazen hamlet have you seen anything (in your research) that indicates that you need a specific model of nvidia card?

#

aside from it having a nvenc part :)

brazen hamlet
#

this is what I was looing at

heady raven
#

a channel you might want to have a look around on https://www.youtube.com/c/EposVox/videos

YouTube
EposVox

The ORIGINAL content creator and streaming focused tech education channel. EposVox, the Stream Professor, is here to give you how to videos, tutorials, tips ...

brazen hamlet
#

nice

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thanks

heady raven
#

yes, he is a quirky person, but yes, he does know what he is talking about

brazen hamlet
#

yea... I've been doing this blind... building it all from scratch. But almost 500 subscribers in two and a half months... not too too bad.

heady raven
#

:)

#

that is an option

#

Please note/remember the following

minor sun
#

Whew that's hefty

brazen hamlet
#

happy to pay if it works as intended

minor sun
#

2tb sx8200 pro is 250$ btw. Can swap that in.

heady raven
#

consumer vs pro-sumer

minor sun
#

Gotcha

brazen hamlet
#

Naed, I'm going to get this exact list. no changes.

#

this is perfect

heady raven
#

You could stick with your current GPU until the 3070 card comes out (but it should not, technically matter for you

brazen hamlet
#

it's pricey but it should do what I need it to do.

heady raven
#

it can crunch all the things. thats for certain

#

keep in mind, there are a bunch of smaller changes that could rein in the price by a fair deal

brazen hamlet
#

this is good... this is real good.

#

I am very very grateful

heady raven
#

you are very welcome

brazen hamlet
#

This should be a dream to edit on

heady raven
#

the limit should not be the hardware thats for certain

brazen hamlet
#

yea... and I can stop focusing on technical stuff and really concentrate on content and interviews and the important stuff

heady raven
#

aye

minor sun
#

Side note, firecuda 510 does have double the rated write endurance than sx8200 pro, is the the primary reason for the choice?

heady raven
#

520

upper quiver
#

the pcpp has the 510

heady raven
#

oh, did i grab the wrong one?

#

hm, 2sec

upper quiver
#

yeah

minor sun
#

Yea...

heady raven
#

@brazen hamlet hang on for a sec

upper quiver
#

thats why we were a bit confused

brazen hamlet
#

k

minor sun
#

Because the thing is, for 1tb at least, that endurance matches mp34 lel

upper quiver
#

the 510 2tb does have 2.6PBW tho, thats insane lol

#

looooootta writing

minor sun
#

Meh

#

1300tbw for 1tb

#

Same as Corsair mp510

heady raven
#

fixed

minor sun
#

And mp34 has like 1270tbw

upper quiver
#

oh, i wasnt commenting on the drive itself

#

just that its an insane amount of writing lol

heady raven
#

PCPP being a tub of lard.

minor sun
#

Oh gen 4 ssd makes sense for the 350$ lol

upper quiver
#

ahh, thats better

heady raven
#

@brazen hamlet long story short: above link is fixed. sorry about that :)

#

thank you @minor sun and @upper quiver for having working eyes :)

minor sun
#

:)

brazen hamlet
#

Thanks everyone!!!

#

gonna order this stuff today

heady raven
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best of luck :)

radiant tapir
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Naed?

heady raven
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@radiant tapir yes?

radiant tapir
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Can you help me

heady raven
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as always, ask your question: IF someone has the time/knowledge. They will answer.

radiant tapir
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So

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My steam account was stolen

heady raven
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talk with steam support about that.

radiant tapir
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and they changed the email and there is no steam email to contact so I am struggling to retain the account

heady raven
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nothing we can do about that.

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that is between you and steam

radiant tapir
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Do you know how to contact them?

heady raven
radiant tapir
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I've tried that a million times it is a dead end

heady raven
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congrats

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you get to start over

radiant tapir
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bruh

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so

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i found a way

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but

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The way u do it is u send a request for support but then it says enter email to send confirmation but I put in my email and it doesn't send the email

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So

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Its a big F in chat for me

heady raven
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https://help.steampowered.com/en/ <- option to the right of login

Steam Support

Log in to your Steam account to get help with your Steam games, contact Steam Support, request refunds, and more. Help is also available if you can't log in, need to reset your password, or recover a hijacked account.

radiant tapir
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dude they changed the email to the account again

heady raven
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not my problem

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because there is nothing i can do about it

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i can only point you there

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and i know it is possible to restore and account IF you have ever bought anything from it

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because you can supply proof of that purchase

radiant tapir
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So I am trying to do that but then it says they sent me an email to verify but they didn't

heady raven
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again, nothing i can do about that

radiant tapir
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I got it back

heady raven
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now actually secure it with 2 factor

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and learn to use different passwords for things

radiant tapir
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It wont let me change the email

heady raven
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all the info you need is in the link above

radiant tapir
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but when I click to change the email and it says they sent a verification code they didn;

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didn't

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they blocked the email

radiant tapir
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It feels so good to have my account back

brisk dome
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@radiant tapir if you can, set an extra secure, temporary password until you manage to get 2FA working

radiant tapir
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Thank u @brisk dome I managed to un block steams email and enable the mobile authentication

brisk dome
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cool, glad you got the acct back

radiant tapir
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It's been a month bro, all they did was play 12 hours of CSGO

brisk dome
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probably went to check for skins and left it signed in, idk

radiant tapir
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I've never played CSGO kekw

brisk dome
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oh weird, maybe they used it with hacks? idk

radiant tapir
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yea, they also changed the name and added a bunch of friends

noble atlas
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steam guard will save your ass

radiant tapir
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Language?

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but yes I know

cursive gate
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Hello guys, is adata sx8200pro nvme m.2 good?

minor sun
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yea

lime pier
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Do I need to plug anything into APH slot in HDD?

heady raven
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@lime pier those are jumpers, you dont touch those on modern drives

lime pier
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Thanks!

heady raven
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you are very welcome :)

jade haven
cyan ore
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ok i'm getting a 1tb nvme and planned on getting a 970 evo, but what are some good alternatives? (don't say sn750 please)

jade haven
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one would also hold my os as well

latent barn
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@cyan ore mp34

cyan ore
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ya thats what im prolly gonna go w/

latent barn
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yes

cyan ore
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but its cacheless right?

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so big downloads are gonna choke a bit

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eh

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i dont play modern warfare

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ill be fine

minor sun
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@cyan ore mp34 has dram

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I never reccomend drives without a dram cache

cyan ore
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oo ok

noble atlas
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don't pay the samsung tax

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get a Sabrent Rocket, Inland Premium, or Silicon Power A80

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for Gen3

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for Gen4 its basically Sabrent Rocket 4 or Rocket 4 Plus

heady raven
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barracuda 520

minor sun
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SN850 seems good, and I like the specs on rocket 4 plus

mortal yew
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i heard tcsunbow has dram

minor sun
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@mortal yew and I hear it's a bunch of random crap

mortal yew
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It was a joke.

minor sun
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Still gotta point it out

red jay
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what is the best 500gb 2242 m.2 ssd for less than 70 usd

heady raven
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@red jay laptop use?

red jay
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to play games

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for a friend

heady raven
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i mean, what kind of system is it going into?

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because the 2242 part is not exactly the normal size for them :)

red jay
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lenovo thinkpad t490s

heady raven
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a ssd is not going to help them have a faster machine

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it originally comes with a ssd

red jay
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he just needs more storage

heady raven
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ah

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fair :)

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2 sec, let me have a look around.

red jay
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lenovo thinkpad t490s has an extra m.2 2242 slot

heady raven
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aye aye :)

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something like that is an option

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not saying that particular seller

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but something akin to that

red jay
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ok

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bruh

heady raven
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there are a number of VERY dodgy looking companies making drives in that size

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but ... yeah, dodgy

red jay
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thats mSATA

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not m.2

heady raven
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ah, my bad :)

red jay
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all good

heady raven
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that is one of the "fun" things about that size

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its the original size for mata :)

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and that is just about it, unless you want to go for the dodgy models @red jay

red jay
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ok

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thank you

heady raven
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you are very welcome, and best of luck :)

topaz prism
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@heady raven what are some brands to avoid when it comes to M.2 SSDs

latent barn
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samsung

topaz prism
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I want a good price on a 512gb but I'm slightly worried of buying something that's crap just cuz it's cheap

latent barn
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a good 512gb is a80, sn750, mp34, or xs8200

topaz prism
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Oh I'll have to check those see if I can get something on sale

heady raven
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add the xs8200 to that list

topaz prism
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That one is a very reasonable price

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Good speed too

minor sun
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@heady raven might want to specify sx8200 pro

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8200 has like half the write :)

heady raven
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ah yes, cheers @minor sun

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@topaz prism note the correction Mr1111 made just above

plush crag
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Samsung simp s rise up

torpid adder
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Oh

long trout
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guys i think there is something wrong with my ssd everytime i turn off my computer it unallocated and wipes everything on it i need help.

glossy forum
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how do i use a tb hdd from an old hp laptop that has windows

minor sun
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Might want to install windows on ssd

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And depends on the drive

normal thistle
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How fun are one of these to take apart?

heady raven
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trivial and boring

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but why?

normal thistle
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No reason just wondering I'm going to see if it works and if I does not I am taking it apart my teacher gave it to me and said here take it u can take it apart if I want to and I do

heady raven
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ah, for that? yes, go ahead

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and if you have not done so before

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you can make a speaker out of it :)

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its a simple mod

normal thistle
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Lol ok

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How do you go about doing that?

heady raven
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that is for you to figure out :)

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have fun :)

normal thistle
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Thanks lol

noble atlas
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they make good mirrors

heady raven
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that too :)

ebon jolt
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samsung 970 evo plus m.2 good?

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im building a new pc

heady raven
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generally overpriced

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mp34/sn750/sx8200 pro <- examples of normally cheaper drives that perform the same or better

noble atlas
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also NVME drives with a Phison E12 (or higher) controller like Sabrent rocket or Silicon Power a80 (i think) or whatever the inland premium model # is

minor sun
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@noble atlas a80 actually doesn't

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It changes to the other controller

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Look at the notes in the ssd sheet

noble atlas
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I see Silicon Power P34A80 with phison E12

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PCIE gen3

minor sun
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@noble atlas look at ssd sheet, it changed to SM2262EN later on

noble atlas
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Oooooh, I didn't scroll far enough to the right

minor sun
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Smh

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There's a "notes" section

noble atlas
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My bad

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I blame my phone

topaz prism
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How much of a difference in speed would be noticeable between an internal SSD vs an M.2 NVME SSD?

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@minor sun @heady raven

steel ibex
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Im looking to connect sata drives in an enclosure to my 2013 macbook pro via thunderbolt 2, but im not seeing mention of thunderbolt compatibility on the enclosure specs and havent used the port before. Is this generally an option?

topaz prism
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@steel ibex you dont have any USB ports right?

steel ibex
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i have two USB-A ports, i'd prefer to leave them available

topaz prism
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I dunno details of SATA connectors but i would assume if anything there'd more likely be an adapter for those than the lightning

steel ibex
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none of it is expensive so i'll just see if i can find connectors and prob just gamble