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dawn arch Apr 11, 2020, 4:50 AM

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hey

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my uh nvme drive is slanted

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and i dont have the post

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can i buy the post separately or

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cause its really bugging me

torpid adder Apr 11, 2020, 4:56 AM

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oof

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possibly?

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just use the term m.2 drive standoff

dawn arch Apr 11, 2020, 5:18 AM

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huh

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whats that

minor sun Apr 11, 2020, 5:19 AM

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The lil post thing that goes under the m.2 screw

shrewd mango Apr 11, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Sabrent Or WD Black for an NVME Drive, Anyone have preferences on it?

minor sun Apr 12, 2020, 1:11 AM

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sabrent

open gazelle Apr 12, 2020, 2:38 AM

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whatever is cheaper tbh

tropic iron Apr 13, 2020, 6:00 AM

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Obviously there are ssd's and hdd's, but are there storage devices that are huge, that aren't hdd or ssd? The largest I have seen, at least on pcpartpicker, is 16gb hdd from Western Digital (Good brand or...??). I don't need a bigger storage device than that, but I am just curios.

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nvm, lol. I just went on Western Digital's website and see their bigger devices, lol.

nova iron Apr 13, 2020, 6:01 AM

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lol

rose breach Apr 13, 2020, 6:35 AM

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There’s also tape drives for archival purposes

rare harness Apr 14, 2020, 3:24 AM

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Is it just me or are NVME drives disappearing from stock or having the prices go sky-high?

minor sun Apr 14, 2020, 4:24 AM

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That's been happening for a few months now lol

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Like December of last year 120$ was the standard price for great 1tb nvme drives like sabrent rocket and mp510

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Now it's crazy

torpid adder Apr 14, 2020, 6:21 AM

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Aren't 500GB NVMe drives like the 660p or something Crucial like 70 bucks

open gazelle Apr 14, 2020, 6:58 AM

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iirc it's $68 for A80 512gb

torpid adder Apr 14, 2020, 6:59 AM

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That's pretty good 👀

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I got my Blue 3D NAND for 65 several months ago

torpid adder Apr 15, 2020, 3:07 AM

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what do the four read/writes mean on CrystalDiskMark?

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nvm I got it, looking at the txt log

rare harness Apr 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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Would this be an okay drive?
https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-sn550-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250134

minor sun Apr 15, 2020, 4:20 PM

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no

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no dram

rare harness Apr 15, 2020, 4:23 PM

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Well, the one I originally got recommended apparently is now back in stock:
https://www.newegg.com/silicon-power-p34a80-512gb/p/N82E16820301394

minor sun Apr 15, 2020, 4:24 PM

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I think I recommended that xD

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but thats a great ssd

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got dram

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great controller

exotic cipher Apr 16, 2020, 3:06 PM

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looking fo a 10+ tb hdd any recommends

somber remnant Apr 16, 2020, 5:06 PM

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seagate

vestal reef Apr 16, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Clapping

shut furnace Apr 16, 2020, 6:10 PM

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wd

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if it is for long term storage you want to look for nas drives like a seagate ironwolf or wd red, if it is for files you will be using or games, apps, etc. then you want a compute drive like the barracudas or wd blue

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there is also wd black too

quick linden Apr 17, 2020, 5:35 PM

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Is the "Seagate BarraCuda 510 M.2 2280 1TB PCIe G3 x4, NVMe 1.3 3D TLC Internal Solid State Drive" a good SSD?

lean knoll Apr 17, 2020, 6:32 PM

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how much is it?

sour roost Apr 18, 2020, 12:12 AM

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Interesting article, Forks.

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Backblaze released their drive failure stats. It's another interesting read.
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-stats-for-2019/

Backblaze Blog | Cloud Storage & Cloud Backup

Andy Klein

2019 Hard Drive Reliability: Failure Rates Continue to Rise

In 2019 we monitored the performance of 122,507 hard drives. In this article we look at the failure rates by make and model.

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Also.. What's the deal on SMR in mechanical drives these days? Sounds like it kills random read/write perf. Are drive manufacturers giving up on the desktop mechanical market?

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..and I wonder how much of that can be mitigated with something like a SSD cache.

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Seems like there's been drama recently about hiding which drives use SMR and even hiding drive RPM.

plush crag Apr 18, 2020, 12:19 AM

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SMR is a way to pack more data onto a drive without increasing the cost.
Great tech for an archive drive.

sour roost Apr 18, 2020, 12:55 AM

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I heard some rumors about the Baracuda Compute drives.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/86sf1z/psa_regular_barracudas_are_now_5425rpm_smr_drives/

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..granted that was a post from two years ago.

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 4:20 AM

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yep i have a question

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i was gonna get a 970 evo but noticed i can get a crucial p1 for $10 more and double to storage

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shall i

solar sedge Apr 18, 2020, 4:23 AM

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get the crucial

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 4:24 AM

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someone over in graphics told me the p2 wtf

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 4:25 AM

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yeah...

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the same dude who has been telling you stuff for the past 15 mins

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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interesting

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 4:26 AM

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and sent you two pcpp lists

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with minor changes

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 4:27 AM

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i switched over the ram but can’t make a decision on the storage and i don’t know why

solar sedge Apr 18, 2020, 4:27 AM

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seagate has 2tb hdds for 45

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and also get a crucial

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make sure its the 7200 rpm

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 4:27 AM

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i think it just irks me that the sp a80 is so much cheaper and i don’t know why

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i have a seagate 2tb drive in my list already

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it’s like $51

solar sedge Apr 18, 2020, 4:29 AM

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well i did remember sry

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whats ur specs

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 4:29 AM

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the A80 is like 3 dollars more than the P2...

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 4:30 AM

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i mean cheaper than the 970 evo

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 4:30 AM

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so?

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the 2060s is cheaper than the 2080ti

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huh

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also for the monitor, do you want it to look better or a higher refresh rate

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 AM

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i know i mean they’re both 500gb nvme m.2 ssd’s so i don’t understand why the a80 is so much cheaper than the 970evo

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 4:33 AM

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they perform differently

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the A80 is the cheapest NVMe i would recommend

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well, the crucial ones too

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its not any less reliable

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no reason to overpay for performance you wont notice

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 4:34 AM

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is it just lower read/write speeds then?

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along with obviously paying for samsung branding

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 4:34 AM

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barely

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so, are you playing fps games?

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where you want a high refresh rate?

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 4:35 AM

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i mostly play fortnite uhh gta and some cod

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i was aiming for a 144hz monitor but not a tn panel and like 1080p

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that’s why i chose those

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 4:36 AM

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but if you could get 165 with a TN

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would you sacrifice slight image quality for a slight increase in Hz?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hy4BD3/asus-vg248qg-240-1920x1080-165-hz-monitor-vg248qg

Asus VG248QG 24.0" 1920x1080 165 Hz Monitor

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 4:38 AM

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i don’t think i would tbh

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there’s no way 165 is better enough than 144 to sacrifice image quality y’know

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that’s kinda my stance

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 4:47 AM

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i see

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wFvtsk

System Builder

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 5:02 AM

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why that monitor?

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:04 AM

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Seems fine

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 5:04 AM

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there’s no way it’s ips and 1ms response time

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i’m pretty sure those are like crazy expensive

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Nope

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IPS 1ms are cheaper now

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Just a bit more expensive then va 1ms

open gazelle Apr 18, 2020, 5:05 AM

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also 1ms is g2g

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 5:05 AM

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huh

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Yea

open gazelle Apr 18, 2020, 5:05 AM

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grey to grey

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not color to color

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:05 AM

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Real use it's like 4ms I think

open gazelle Apr 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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as in, "best response time but not the actual response time you'd see normally"

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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But it's all marketing

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Most "1ms" is g2g

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 5:06 AM

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and i can’t help but notice you switched out my 2060 super and uhh i don’t like that

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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Actually you can put in a 2070 at that price if you steam

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Stream

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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i don’t

open gazelle Apr 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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are you streaming/recording?

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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i switched out my ram and storage in pursuit of the 2070 super

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i’m not

open gazelle Apr 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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then Nvidia is a waste of money

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 5:07 AM

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ive played on 14ms monitors

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cant tell the difference

torpid adder Apr 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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I really want to find out what my monitor is

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but there's nothing online detailing it

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:08 AM

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Also, my monitor is 1ms g2g, blurbusters rated the actual pixel response time to be 12ms or something, still great for me.

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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lol

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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why is nvidia a waste of money

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Not blurbusters, rtings

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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ahh

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Because price to performance

open gazelle Apr 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Nvidia's main advantage is for streaming

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due to proper hardware acceleration for it

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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5700xt performs near a rtx 2070 super. In games.

shut furnace Apr 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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Nvidia is good because of nvenc and superior drivers

upper quiver Apr 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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but for casual gaming it doesnt matter

wispy bison Apr 18, 2020, 5:09 AM

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and i don’t want to deal with driver issues as a first timer

open gazelle Apr 18, 2020, 5:10 AM

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if you arent doing that, then the price to perf is horrible compared to AMD (except for 1650S/1660S)

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drivers are mostly if not completely fixed

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havent heard really any issues from anyone in quite a while

shut furnace Apr 18, 2020, 5:10 AM

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A lot of issues with some cards have been fixed, but there are still a lot of amd specific issues I e been seeing floating around

open gazelle Apr 18, 2020, 5:11 AM

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I see it as some specific card issues

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Pulse with its video port issues

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and whatever else there was, what are probs mostly fixed by now

shut furnace Apr 18, 2020, 5:12 AM

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Apparently there was a crashing issue with amd cards on league of legends(had a friend asking me about it recently) but it seems to be known... for over 5 years and still no fix

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He just ended up not playing the game anymore

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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Screw league

shut furnace Apr 18, 2020, 5:13 AM

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I agree xD

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It can be fun but most of the time it is just a pain

torpid adder Apr 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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the only League of Legends I know is this little cartoon man who tries so desperately to convince people to play the game on YouTube advertisements

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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Lol

shut furnace Apr 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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True

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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I skip it whenever possible

torpid adder Apr 18, 2020, 5:17 AM

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xd

shut furnace Apr 18, 2020, 5:18 AM

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I hate the people on it, I’ve never once met a nice person on the game

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Community is terrible

candid spruce Apr 18, 2020, 8:22 PM

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how good are Teamgroup ssds

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 8:47 PM

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depends on the model

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Many are bad, some are okay.

candid spruce Apr 18, 2020, 10:41 PM

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GX2 1TB? @minor sun

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 10:47 PM

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bad, no dram.

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only acceptable team sata drive I can think of is L5 Lite 3d.

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https://www.amazon.com/Team-Group-480GB-Internal-T253TD480G3C101/dp/B078861PN5

viral vapor Apr 18, 2020, 10:49 PM

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the ssd will not last long

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 10:49 PM

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109$ for 1tb

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@candid spruce

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dramless SSDs doesn't last long, and speeds dramatically decrease.

viral vapor Apr 18, 2020, 10:51 PM

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if hes payin 109 might as well get a wd

heady raven Apr 18, 2020, 10:56 PM

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you are aware that WD also (just like any other manufacturer) has products that are bad in their portfolio right? [edit: are]

viral vapor Apr 18, 2020, 11:01 PM

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yes many companies have bad stuff

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but if the wd breaks, it could be much easier to get a replacement. that also depends on where you buy it from

heady raven Apr 18, 2020, 11:02 PM

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if that is your take, say so at the start.

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instead of just going "bad!"

viral vapor Apr 18, 2020, 11:03 PM

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fair point

open gazelle Apr 18, 2020, 11:05 PM

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@minor sun T-Force Vulcan is another good Team SSD. Actually better then Lite 3D.

minor sun Apr 18, 2020, 11:28 PM

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Don't quite know that one

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How is it better other than having different NAND?

📎 unknown.png

open gazelle Apr 19, 2020, 12:10 AM

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layer difference I think it was

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could also be more DRAM, as it doesnt specify how much DRAM it has. But iirc it was amount of layers that it had

sleek crypt Apr 20, 2020, 7:27 AM

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hello, so m.2 ssd are really fast and worth for your pc, but its expenive getting one with good storage(1 tb), so my question is, can you use a ssd and a hdd both on internal storage?, so the ssd takes care of booting fast your pc, opening apps instantly etc, and your hdd takes care of storage.(sorry if this is a dumb question but i am new at this)

carmine spear Apr 20, 2020, 7:43 AM

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I'm kind of confused on what you are asking but yes you can load windows onto the faster m.2 to boot faster and things that you want to boot faster onto the ssd

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and you can also have a hdd for things that you don't need to be as quick or snappy

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@sleek crypt not sure if that answers your question

sleek crypt Apr 20, 2020, 8:09 AM

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i mean can the m.2 only take care of booting and loading stuff quickly and use the hdd only for storage(say you download a movie and it directly goes to the hdd)

carmine spear Apr 20, 2020, 8:10 AM

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Ye sure

indigo arch Apr 20, 2020, 1:41 PM

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What are the main things you look for when buying an external hard drive for data backup of general files and photos
Looking to turn my Raspberry Pi into a NAS to then link to my other computer which i will turn into a HTPC kodi box and link the movies from the NAS over to the HTPC

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Is just a ssd or an ssd and hdd better to have?

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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depends entirely on your storage needs

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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Is it easy to add extra storage later on as well?

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:03 PM

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it takes 3-4 minutes to add a hdd

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Awesome! What’s the best to start with? An ssd or hdd? From what I’ve read ssd is faster

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:04 PM

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ssd is the logical choice

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:04 PM

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Okay awesome! And it’s best to store the OS on it? Even if you add an hdd later on?

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:04 PM

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aye

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:05 PM

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yeah

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:05 PM

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So the hdd would be to store games on?

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:05 PM

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yeah

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the load times arent that much longer

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:05 PM

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Okay! Any particular one you guys would recommend over others?

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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not really

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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for ssd?

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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Yes ssd

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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samsung has good ssd's

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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crucial p1 and the a80

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samsung is expensive as well, for no added benefit

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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isnt the p1 an m.2

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:06 PM

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it is, so is the a80

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:07 PM

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does britt have any m.2 slots

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:07 PM

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and iirc, @raw folio is doing a new system

worn robin Apr 20, 2020, 11:07 PM

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crucial just released the p2 as well. the only thing with samsung is extended read and writes will sustain higher speeds for longer but normal use never really has to worry about that

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:08 PM

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Yes I’m doing a new system. This is what I have so far so I’m not sure on slots. I’m new to this so it’ll be my first build

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6hjHzN

System Builder

minor sun Apr 20, 2020, 11:09 PM

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oh hey b450m tuf pro is back in stock

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:09 PM

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@minor sun I believe that’s the mobo I have added to mine!

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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why a micro atx

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u can get an rog b450f for the same price

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Is the rog b450f better? The one I have added is the one a few recommended

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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rog is the highest class in the asus enviroment

minor sun Apr 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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Not afaik.

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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@daring venture aint available in the US normally

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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which ones

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rog as a whole

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or

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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the F

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:11 PM

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just the b450f

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oh

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nah wdym

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i got mine in 3 days

minor sun Apr 20, 2020, 11:12 PM

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B450f is a lower tier than the tuf pro

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in terms of VRMs

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:12 PM

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hm, fairly certain that one started as a EU only part

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:12 PM

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true but i doubt britt would be oc'ing tho

minor sun Apr 20, 2020, 11:13 PM

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B450m tuf pro is also 30$ cheaper USD

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31$ to be exact

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:13 PM

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@daring venture how exactly do you compare a sub 100 usd board with a 129+ board and call them "same price"

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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to me its close enough tho

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its just around 30 bucks

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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its "just around a 30% increase in price"

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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well if ur gonna say it like that

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:14 PM

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sounds a bit different to "same price" doesnt it?

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:15 PM

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its gonna sound like a lot if u say it like that

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:15 PM

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hey, you dont mind right, i can just take 30% of your earnings too right?

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its not a lot after all

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:)

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:15 PM

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sure

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:15 PM

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and yes, i am making fun of you for it.

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:15 PM

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im a f r e e l o a d e r

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:16 PM

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because context and details matter

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Lol I just wanna make sure I get the best I can for the money I’m spending

daring venture Apr 20, 2020, 11:16 PM

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k

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:16 PM

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the one you have is that @raw folio

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:17 PM

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So is there a particular ssd that would be best paired with those?

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:18 PM

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price and performance factored in, something like the crucial p1 or the a80

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the p1, for a 1tb drive is about 110

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https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pxKcCJ/crucial-p1-1tb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct1000p1ssd8

Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:19 PM

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And crucial p1 preferred over the a80?

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:19 PM

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for the 1tb models? yes

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Okay!

heady raven Apr 20, 2020, 11:20 PM

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because, close enough performance and 20usd cheaper

raw folio Apr 20, 2020, 11:21 PM

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Okay awesome!

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Now all I need to figure out is ram and psu

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Oh and a case lol

lean knoll Apr 21, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Is the intel 660p m.2 drive good? Looks like very high speed

minor sun Apr 21, 2020, 2:45 AM

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not great

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It's one of the slower (not quite slowest) NVME SSDs out there

lean knoll Apr 21, 2020, 2:47 AM

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then what $120 m.2 should I get?

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Perferably fast

heady raven Apr 21, 2020, 2:47 AM

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crucial p1

lean knoll Apr 21, 2020, 2:47 AM

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k

minor sun Apr 21, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Or a80

lean knoll Apr 21, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Oh yeah need to ask a question in #cpus-mobo-and-memory

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go there

bitter jasper Apr 21, 2020, 3:59 AM

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Is it ok to just have a 1t m.2 or should I get like a 250gb m.2 and like a 1tb hard drive

lean knoll Apr 21, 2020, 4:13 AM

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the first option, your game loading times will thank you

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@bitter jasper

bitter jasper Apr 21, 2020, 4:14 AM

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That’s what I was thinking thanks

ripe token Apr 21, 2020, 2:25 PM

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hey y'all. I'm basically upgrading all of my parts except my psu (and storage). I'm running a 1tb HDD. Should I upgrade to an SSD or m.2? Are there any noticeable downsides if I stick to an HDD when I play newer games?

heady raven Apr 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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general responsiveness of the system overall is the benefit from having your OS on a SSD (either 2.5inch or m.2)

torpid adder Apr 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Gameplay shouldn't be too slow if you're using just a hard drive

heady raven Apr 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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it is up to you to decide if you think that is worth the money @ripe token

ripe token Apr 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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thank you guys

heady raven Apr 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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you are very welcome

river heath Apr 21, 2020, 10:32 PM

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Did SSDs just randomly increase in price?

torpid adder Apr 21, 2020, 10:34 PM

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2020/04/19/the-real-reason-nintendo-switch-is-out-of-stock-everywhere/amp/

Forbes

The Real Reason Nintendo Switch Is Out Of Stock Everywhere

The Nintendo Switch, almost overnight, became an absurdly hot commodity. High demand and low stock have been exacerbated by other market forces.

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Lol

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550 bucks is the highest price I've seen

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World's gone mad

rose breach Apr 22, 2020, 4:40 AM

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It’s like the launch shortage all over again

past notch Apr 22, 2020, 5:20 AM

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Anyone know about SAS HBA cards?

latent smelt Apr 22, 2020, 10:47 AM

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ok

sick dawn Apr 22, 2020, 3:38 PM

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@red jay do %temp% and del all files

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apparently its all junk files

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even search it up

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 4:13 AM

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Temporary files are temporary

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The computer should automatically snuff them out after a while

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 5:09 AM

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anyone know what USB adapter I can buy to connect to a mini SSD Drive. I need to get the files off of it

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:14 AM

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Can you send a picture of the kind of SSD you're talking about?

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:36 AM

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@torpid adder he cant post it

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@muted mason if you have a picture of the drive, sent it as a dm to either @torpid adder or me

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:36 AM

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Oh forgot about that

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 5:37 AM

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can I send it on here???

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:38 AM

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@muted mason only as a dm

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there is a bot that prevents new users from posting links

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:38 AM

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Wait but what about images?

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📎 Screenshot_20200422-135921-1.jpg

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Like that

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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meep should react to that too

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:39 AM

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Ah

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 5:40 AM

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ahhh

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I do have a picture of it

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:41 AM

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send it as a dm to either of us @muted mason

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or if you know the model, write that

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 5:42 AM

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what is a DM???

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:42 AM

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direct message

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 5:42 AM

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ok

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:42 AM

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click on either of us, and select message

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@muted mason thats a msata drive

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 5:44 AM

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mmmmm

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:44 AM

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on behalf of @muted mason https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702756305240195142/702756447473107004/20200422_165958.jpg

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:44 AM

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You can use normal SATA connectors for mSATA

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:44 AM

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nope

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:44 AM

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No?

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Oh ok

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:45 AM

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its the predecessor to the m.2 drives of today

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Failing that, you can use a PCI Express card that is built for MSATA

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:45 AM

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usb dongle is easier

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:45 AM

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Oh tru

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:45 AM

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@muted mason you just need to get the data off the drive right?

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:46 AM

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Forgot mar was talking about USB

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 5:46 AM

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yea its like 2 inches long

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yes Naed

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:46 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Tanbin-Portable-External-Converter/dp/B075FR3ZD4 <- something like that works for it

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:47 AM

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These are kinda neat

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 5:47 AM

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cool

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:47 AM

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but really , just search for "msata to usb" or "usb to msata"

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:47 AM

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Flash drive out of old SSD 👀

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:48 AM

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and you should be okay. because the tech is fairly old by now, so even a "low quality" dongle will be fine

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i hope that makes sense for you @muted mason ?

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 5:48 AM

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thanks for the info. I've been out of the tech world for about 5 years now

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:49 AM

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you are very welcome, and best of luck with the project :)

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 5:49 AM

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thanks

heady raven Apr 23, 2020, 5:50 AM

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side note: do keep that msata drive around, its one of the actually good ones :)

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might turn out usefull in something else down the line

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 5:51 AM

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My brother's laptop has one hard drive slot, and an mSATA slot as well

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I wanted to get an mSATA drive for it, but they're all old, obscure and overpriced

muted mason Apr 23, 2020, 6:13 AM

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will do

sleek crypt Apr 23, 2020, 6:23 AM

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what makes an m.2 better than another m.2 apart from more storage?

torpid adder Apr 23, 2020, 6:24 AM

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some m.2 drives are SATA

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Like the WD Blue 3D NAND m.2

vestal reef Apr 23, 2020, 12:41 PM

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Some have dram cache and some don't

hushed karma Apr 24, 2020, 9:49 AM

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Bought a 660p 512gb from some guy on offer up for $30. Any bios settings I should alter if I'm running this as a boot drive to make sure I'm getting the best out of it? Asus tuf x570 plus is the mobo.

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Also for giggles what's a worthy upgrade from this in terms of performance.

torpid adder Apr 24, 2020, 9:50 AM

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normal boot priority settings I guess

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check the pins in this channel for a table of almost every SSD available on the market, you can compare other drives to the 660p a little

vestal reef Apr 24, 2020, 1:03 PM

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Crucial p1 would be an upgrade

plush crag Apr 24, 2020, 6:26 PM

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Helpful disk cleanup tool.
https://windirstat.net/index.html

WinDirStat

Windows Directory Statistics cleanup tool

plush crag Apr 24, 2020, 6:26 PM

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plush crag Helpful disk cleanup tool. https://windirstat.net/index.html

torpid adder Apr 24, 2020, 6:26 PM

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woa

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another pinned item

plush crag Apr 24, 2020, 6:30 PM

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?

torpid adder Apr 24, 2020, 8:00 PM

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did someone make a hard drive spreadsheet?

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I'd like to look at one so I can see what drives I'd like 👀

shut furnace Apr 24, 2020, 8:15 PM

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interesting

minor sun Apr 24, 2020, 9:04 PM

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Forks, that's actually really interesting

📎 unknown.png

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Left blue blob is GTA5, cyan blob is R6s, middle gray blob is MW, pink blob is division 2, red blob are recorded videos, and right green blob is borderlands 3

open gazelle Apr 24, 2020, 10:07 PM

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That's actually a godsend for trying to delete random unneeded large files

minor sun Apr 24, 2020, 10:08 PM

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Seems like it

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I got 200gb free on my SSD rn, otherwise I would be moving my video files to hdd

open gazelle Apr 24, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Wish I new that before. Use to just select a bunch of files and find the size of all of them. If it seemed randomly large it'd look into which file(s) they were and whether I should delete them

upper quiver Apr 24, 2020, 10:11 PM

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oof ma 128gb boot ssd has a page pile and a hibernation file i will never use taking up 32gb of ma storage

plush crag Apr 24, 2020, 10:13 PM

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you can disable the hiberfil.sys with
powercfg -h off

upper quiver Apr 24, 2020, 10:14 PM

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oh cool thx

night forum Apr 24, 2020, 10:54 PM

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So I just built my computer and Have downloaded all the drivers and everything on a m.2 drive and have a 2 tb hard drive and after an hour of using it my hard drive does the clicking thing can anyone help me

heady raven Apr 24, 2020, 10:57 PM

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@night forum harddrive is new?

night forum Apr 24, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Yea brand new

heady raven Apr 24, 2020, 10:57 PM

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start the rma process now

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broken

night forum Apr 24, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Ok

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Even tho it runs for like an hour

heady raven Apr 24, 2020, 10:57 PM

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clicking = return it ASAP

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something is broken inside

night forum Apr 24, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Ok

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Ill send it back

heady raven Apr 24, 2020, 10:58 PM

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at least you have the ssd

night forum Apr 24, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Yea

heady raven Apr 24, 2020, 10:58 PM

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talk with the customer service first

night forum Apr 24, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Ok

heady raven Apr 24, 2020, 10:58 PM

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just to make certain you follow their process for it

night forum Apr 24, 2020, 10:58 PM

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Ok thank you

heady raven Apr 24, 2020, 10:59 PM

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you are very welcome, congrats on the new build, at least you have that to enjoy while you wait for the extra drive :)

night forum Apr 24, 2020, 11:00 PM

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Yea

lean knoll Apr 25, 2020, 4:32 AM

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MX500, BX500, Crucial P1, WD Blue 3D NAND, or the m.2 version?

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Pls help

somber remnant Apr 25, 2020, 4:34 AM

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whichever one is the cheapest, prob crucial?

lean knoll Apr 25, 2020, 4:36 AM

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But Im also considering transfer speeds, since Im going to transfer all the game onto my new PC

somber remnant Apr 25, 2020, 4:37 AM

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well then the m.2 drive would be good

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so as long as theyre not dramless they should be similar speeds

lean knoll Apr 25, 2020, 4:37 AM

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k

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getting crucial p1 then

open gazelle Apr 25, 2020, 6:13 AM

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@lean knoll Why only those ones?

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Why not Silicon Power A80, Team Vulcan, Team Lite 3D, etc?

lean knoll Apr 25, 2020, 4:11 PM

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@open gazelle then, any suggestions?

minor sun Apr 25, 2020, 4:24 PM

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The 3 Hei listed are good.

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P1 is worse then A80 but a bit cheaper.

red jay Apr 26, 2020, 5:15 PM

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So my hdd is making almost a whirring/clicking noise, but it's still working, doesn't do it all the time. Should I be worried?

heady raven Apr 26, 2020, 5:16 PM

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yes

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unless you are confusing the normal operation sound with that of the normal "clicking of death" sounds that HDD's make when they are dying

red jay Apr 26, 2020, 5:23 PM

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not sure, it just started a few days ago, normally i never hear my hdd at all

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it does it when my computer as been closed or off for a few hours atleast

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does it for 30 seconds then stops

heady raven Apr 26, 2020, 5:25 PM

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be worried.

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following is my recommendation: backup anything on it that you absolutely cannot live without

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and order a new drive ASAP

red jay Apr 26, 2020, 5:25 PM

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it mostly has the os and a few games

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sadly i dont have money for new one

heady raven Apr 26, 2020, 5:26 PM

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that doesnt change the recommendation.

red jay Apr 26, 2020, 5:26 PM

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rn computer parts are bottom of my list sadly

red jay Apr 26, 2020, 5:56 PM

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@heady raven what drive would you recommend as a drive just for OS and another for an office computer?

heady raven Apr 26, 2020, 5:57 PM

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if you can afford, a ssd

red jay Apr 26, 2020, 6:01 PM

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I'm thinking of a Seagate 120 computing SSD or a Silicon power acr a55

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SSD wise

heady raven Apr 26, 2020, 6:01 PM

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iirc your budget restraints, just about anything is okay

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BUT, i would highly recommend asking @open gazelle if he is aware of any lowend devices that are actually decent

red jay Apr 26, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Silicon is the cheapest 256 gb at 36 USD

open gazelle Apr 26, 2020, 6:20 PM

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cheapest yeah, but A55 lacks DRAM cache and has a meh controller

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unless 120gb then cheapest decent SATA SSD is only few $ less then decent NVMe usually

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If 240gb then you have these options. NVMe is $5 more so yee, if possible take NVMe
SATA: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vpjJ7P/team-t-force-vulcan-250-gb-25-solid-state-drive-t253tv250g3c301
NVMe: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vs97YJ/silicon-power-a80-256-gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-sp256gbp34a80m28

red jay Apr 26, 2020, 6:46 PM

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@open gazelle needs to be sata

open gazelle Apr 26, 2020, 6:58 PM

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Then pick the Vulcan

quaint nymph Apr 27, 2020, 12:44 AM

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hey i need some help. I cant figure out which m.2 drive i should buy. my max amount i can spend is around 50-60. my motherboard is the msi B901
but im confused on which will fit in it
i know i need the m.2 2280
and i looked at the manual it said b+m key but that is it

silver nexus Apr 27, 2020, 4:43 PM

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Hi! I want to surprise my nephew with a new SSD Drive for his gaming PC...but I’m not sure which one to buy. Any recommendations? He has a An HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop 690-0073w and said he’s already run out of room.

short lodge Apr 27, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Crucial MX500

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If he already has an ssd in there, you could get a hard drive too

shut furnace Apr 27, 2020, 4:48 PM

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The samsung 860 qvo is surprisingly not much more expensive than crucial 1tb

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I'd definitely try to get at least 1tb

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Western Digital Blue 1tb is also good

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I don't really know if that pc has the power and data connectors laying inside the pc for sata, or if it has a m.2 slot, I can try to look

short lodge Apr 27, 2020, 4:52 PM

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Yeah if you could send us a picture of the motherboard @silver nexus that would be helpful

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Oh wait he’s not level 3 huh

shut furnace Apr 27, 2020, 4:52 PM

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lol

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well that is if he can look in the pc without his nephew knowing

short lodge Apr 27, 2020, 4:53 PM

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True

silver nexus Apr 27, 2020, 5:04 PM

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Yeah....sadly can’t look in 😕

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The current SSD Drive he has is 256gb

wispy forum Apr 27, 2020, 5:13 PM

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if i have a 256gb ssd and a 500gb hdd

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can i partition both into halves and make each have one partition as ext4 and one as ntfs?

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does anyone have any suggestioons? i want to dual boot ubuntu and windows using grub

shut furnace Apr 27, 2020, 5:19 PM

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@silver nexus you can try contacting hp or looking here: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c05934592 to see if you need a sata or m.2 ssd to upgrade it.

tame peak Apr 27, 2020, 5:21 PM

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@wispy forum As far as I know, you should be able to. I did that a long time ago but, only on 1 drive.

shut furnace Apr 27, 2020, 5:21 PM

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often times installers for os like linux have a partitioning tool while installing

wispy forum Apr 27, 2020, 5:22 PM

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ah i see

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yeah im in ubuntu rn and i wanted to use gparted for the partitioning on my secondary hdd

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also im erasing the disk so is it better to use gpt or msdos as the partition table?

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this drive is like external storage for both the os', which will be on the ssd

shut furnace Apr 27, 2020, 5:24 PM

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i think most os support gpt, I can't remember tho

wispy forum Apr 27, 2020, 5:24 PM

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ok cool, ill look into it a bit more

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thx!

shut furnace Apr 27, 2020, 5:25 PM

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np

short lodge Apr 27, 2020, 5:28 PM

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It has a 256gb NVMe ssd in it

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Oh that was already said

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@silver nexus https://www8.hp.com/us/en/home-desktops/product-details/product-specifications/29889925

HP

HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop 690-0073w (2HL14AA)

2HL14AA:The HP Pavilion Gaming Desktop is all about smooth performance and crisp graphics wrapped up in a bold design. This PC offers the latest technology plus the ability to upgrade, keeping performance up-to-date.

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There are it's specs

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I PM'ed you with my info and recommendations

silver nexus Apr 27, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Thank you so much @short lodge

timber nova Apr 28, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Question: is the WD Black series just a gimmick?

minor sun Apr 28, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Wdym

timber nova Apr 28, 2020, 12:03 AM

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Debating between a WD black and a passport ultra... Is the whole "game drive" thing just in regards to compatibility or is there a speed advantage over their other external HDDs

shut furnace Apr 28, 2020, 12:08 AM

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wd black is faster, but you don't really need very high speed for just putting games on

short lodge Apr 28, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Especially for a secondary drive

timber nova Apr 28, 2020, 12:10 AM

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Thanks! Made decision making a bit easier

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 12:55 AM

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Any recommendations for good 2.5" drives? 1-2tbs, mechanical or SSD. (pls tag me, I have notifications off)

minor sun Apr 28, 2020, 1:00 AM

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Depends on budget

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:18 AM

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Preferably under $100 per drive

minor sun Apr 28, 2020, 1:45 AM

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this is good.
https://www.newegg.com/team-group-t-force-vulcan-1tb/p/N82E16820331322

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:45 AM

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@minor sun You want the drive for a laptop?

minor sun Apr 28, 2020, 1:46 AM

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(pinged wrong person)

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:46 AM

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& that I did. 😛

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Naw, for my new build

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:46 AM

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Why you want a 2.5" 1-2 TB mechanical drive?

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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B/c I just want some secondary storage to backup my nvme drives

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Mass storage of video files and the like

minor sun Apr 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Well... HDD for 2tb are like 50$. So for 100$ I'd rather suggest another 1tb ssd.

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:47 AM

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Not a 3.5"?

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:48 AM

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Well, I have room for one more 3.5

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:48 AM

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2 TB FireCuda is $80. lol

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That is in 2.5" size.

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:49 AM

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But four 2.5 slots. Only issue is I can only have 5 sata

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:49 AM

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Regular 2.5" Barracuda 2 TB is $75.

minor sun Apr 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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3.5'' 2tb barracuda is 50$

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nearly always

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Thing is that he has a buncha 2.5" slots. 😛

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:50 AM

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Hmm. I don't think I'd really need several 2 tb tho. Maybe like another 3.5" 3tb and 2x 2.5" 1 tb. I already have one mechanical 1tb @ 7200RPM

minor sun Apr 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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I'm just saying the price

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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Yeah

minor sun Apr 28, 2020, 1:51 AM

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I would add another ssd

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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Alright, I think I'll do some price watching on eBay while I recover financially from my GPU purchase. Thx all

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:52 AM

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lol 8 TB 3.5" for $100 but sold out. XD

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4 TB Seagate Constellation for $62.

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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Ooo. Link?

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:53 AM

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https://www.newegg.com/seagate-constellation-es-3-st4000nm0023-4tb/p/N82E16822178306

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3rd party seller, though.

minor sun Apr 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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well

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that might be one of the drives with smr

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or whatever it was called

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:54 AM

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SMR?

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Wait a sec.

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That is a SAS drive, not an SATA.

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FACE DESKS

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Oh. What's SAS?

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:55 AM

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Serial Attached SCSI.

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It is like SATA on Steroids.

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Ah, okie

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Can attach an SATA drive to a SAS controller but, not the opposite.

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:56 AM

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Okie, thx for the tip

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:57 AM

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I just saw it said SAS on it. lol

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Could either get a 4 TB Seagate Barracude or WD Blue for $92.

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The WD only has a 64 MB buffer, though.

loud estuary Apr 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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Yeah. I'll definitely keep my eye out on eBay. I do already have 6 TB of storage so it's not urgent. Might as well wait for a real bargin

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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The Seagate has a 256 MB buffer.

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Like that 8 TB Toshiba that was EXACTLY $100. 😛

plush crag Apr 28, 2020, 1:59 AM

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You can buy an SAS HBA like a Dell PERC H310 for $35 used and flash it to IT mode
..if you're into that kind of thing.

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Or buy a sata drive 🙂

tame peak Apr 28, 2020, 2:00 AM

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😛

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8 TB Barracuda for $154? lol

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16 TB hard drive. O_O I have a friend who could probably fill that up. lol

keen urchin Apr 28, 2020, 3:28 AM

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@wispy forum no selling or giveaways on this server please. #rules

wispy forum Apr 28, 2020, 3:29 AM

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oh rip mb

keen urchin Apr 28, 2020, 3:29 AM

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all good

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 4:39 PM

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Bought a Seagate firecuda 2tb sshd

tame peak Apr 30, 2020, 4:54 PM

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😮

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:08 PM

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Combined with a 1tb 970 Evo plus, that should be MORE then enough storage

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 7:23 PM

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I'm rocking a similar set of drives, just with a ADATA NVMe instead of a Samsung. The Firecuda isn't really worth the money but is really nice to have otherwise, especially if you're keeping your current game and work files on it.

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 7:24 PM

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99.99% of people wont notice, as long as it is a semi modern ssd

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yes, it would be a bit silly to take a non-nvme drive if the price is the same

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but yeah, most people are not going to notice

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 7:27 PM

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An SSHD is still noticeably slower than any SSD though, just a bit faster with the files you're opening frequently.

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Well I was going to go the gx2 SSD, but I only had $100(including taxes and shipping) so I went firecuda

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I'm also running the exact same drive on my PS4 so.....

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 7:30 PM

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@fiery flower depending on use case, you are not going to notice it

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:30 PM

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It's a secondary drive

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My 970 Evo is my primary drive

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 7:31 PM

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for seconday, a lot of people seem to be okay with just pure mechanical storage

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which is currently around 55 usd for 2tb

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personally, for my own rigs, i try to aim for NOT having mech drives if possible

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(that includes sshd's)

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because of noise in my case

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 7:37 PM

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It's sort of in an awkward spot in the list of drives you can consider.

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It's a better solution when you're only swapping out a sole HDD in a system and can't afford to go 100% SSD.

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Which is what I initially bought mine for. As secondary storage it's nice, just noticeably slower than a SSD and only faster than a regular HDD with frequently opened files.

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 7:41 PM

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sshd's are not bad, they just only really shine as main drives imo

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:41 PM

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I swapped out a 1tb wd blue HDD for the Seagate and swapped an optane memory drive for the 970 evo

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 7:42 PM

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however, imo, the time for sshdds has come and gone, exccept for very very very specific niches

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 7:42 PM

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They made more sense when SSDs were considerably more expensive.

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 7:43 PM

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aye

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Now it makes more sense to keep your current games and work files on an SSD and then move them over to a HDD when you're not longer working on them.

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Well I didnt have the money to go full ssd, especially 2tb ssd

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 7:44 PM

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BUT, it is nice to have a the SSHD when you want to keep it full of games and go back to replay stuff.

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Not trying to denigrate your choices Salvecai, just relating my experience with a having a similar setup for a while.

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:46 PM

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Ik

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I'm just explaining why I went sshd, and not ssd

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Truthfully I wanted an ssd

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 7:49 PM

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Keen on eventually going all SSD myself. I initially got into building a computer due to the frustration of having a failing hard drive and would like to never repeat the process.

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:49 PM

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My mom tried to talk me into buying a $30 used Samsung 870 Evo QVO

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 7:52 PM

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Might not have been a bad deal depending on the capacity, although I'm usually not for buying or selling used drives in general.

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:56 PM

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It was a 1tb, and I'm hesitant on a used hard drive or used hardware in the first place

shut furnace Apr 30, 2020, 7:56 PM

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Cringe

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I would avoid used drives

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 7:57 PM

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I avoid ANY used hardware

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That's asking for trouble

shut furnace Apr 30, 2020, 7:57 PM

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If they were heavily used they could not last very long

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 7:57 PM

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Okay I would have taken the chance on a $30 1tb SSD.

shut furnace Apr 30, 2020, 7:57 PM

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some things like used cpu, gpu, mobo, ram is usually fine

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 7:58 PM

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Even a QLC SDD is probably going to be fine unless you're buying it from someone who had profession use for it.

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But yeah, it's generally not a good practice.

shut furnace Apr 30, 2020, 7:58 PM

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SSDs have a life span

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they don't last forever

fiery flower Apr 30, 2020, 8:00 PM

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Their lifespan is determined more from use though, and you don't really need to worry about durability if it's just being used for general gaming/desktop use.

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Unlike a HDD that you have to worry about the previous owner bumping it too many times or getting too hot.

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Different set of reasons I wouldn't buy or sell a drive though. You just should sell anything that you've had sensitive personal information on.

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 8:55 PM

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hey everyone, looking to upgrade to an ssd, currently looking at the samsung 860 but read some 1 star reviews about them crashing and losing all the data and it got me worried. i know its possible with any drive really but is it common with that one specifically and if so is there a better option for the price?

short lodge Apr 30, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Nope Nope Nope. 860 EVO is one of the most reliable SSDs out there

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 8:56 PM

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Samsung 860 evo or 860 qvo? Also, there are usually better options than Samsung drives at the high price of Samsung drives.

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 8:56 PM

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it is the evo

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 8:56 PM

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But Samsung drives are usually some of the most reliable drives out there too.

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 8:58 PM

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sweet and this might be the wrong page for it but my 6core processor is usually maxed out doing video work, i'm planning to upgrade graphics card but i have to wait for the right one and planning to upgrade to 16 gb skillz from my 8gb current setup in the meantime. is this going to help at all or is going to help at all?

short lodge Apr 30, 2020, 8:59 PM

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What CPU you got?

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 8:59 PM

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*is this going to help in the meantime? lol sorry

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its an AMD fx 6300 3.5 ghz

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 8:59 PM

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Well, getting more ram only helps when you're using up so much ram your current ram is 'bottlenecking' the rest of your pc.

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 9:00 PM

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my physical memory maxes out a lot too

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 9:00 PM

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Then it should help.

short lodge Apr 30, 2020, 9:00 PM

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You need an upgrade @olive obsidian . FX-6300 will struggle to keep up nowadays. It's labeled as a "6-core," but isn't really a "true six core." It doesn't have good IPC.

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Basically, the reason it's maxing out is because it's slow and doesn't keep up well with modern tasks

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 9:01 PM

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what is IPC and do you have any recs for an appropriate upgrade?

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 9:02 PM

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@olive obsidian as mentioned earlier to you. Work done in a given amount of time

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 9:02 PM

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Well, IPC is instructions per clock, which just straight up provides more performance, newer generations have better IPC.

short lodge Apr 30, 2020, 9:03 PM

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FX series generally has a lot of cores, but at the cost of core performance

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 9:03 PM

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@heady raven we discussed IPC?

short lodge Apr 30, 2020, 9:03 PM

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I'd recommend upgrading motherboard, RAM, and CPU to maybe the newer Ryzen series

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Also, FX 6300 is 6 cores 6 threads, which means 1 thread per core. Nowadays modern CPUs have 2 threads a cores, so a Ryzen 5 3600 has 6 cores, but 12 threads.

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 9:04 PM

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@olive obsidian sorry, that is my mistake, you just worded your question just about identical to someone else earlier today :)

short lodge Apr 30, 2020, 9:05 PM

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@olive obsidian Something like a 1600 AF would absolutely annihilate your FX-6300 in performance

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It'd smash it into the ground

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 9:05 PM

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And also, @olive obsidian , IPC is not easy to ... well compare, so the rule of thumb is the newer the generation, the better the IPC. (For AMD Ryzen at least)

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Yeast, I wouldn't be recommending 1600af rn, stock is going all over the place, and prices are wack.

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 9:13 PM

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any other recs in that case?

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also sounds like i just need an upgrade all around, can't afford to upgrade eveything at the same time, is there an order i should go in

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 9:18 PM

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Eh, thats what happens with an older computer, everything becomes worse relative to the new stuff

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I suggest cpu upgrade after like ssd and or gpu upgrade

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 9:29 PM

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ok perfect that's more or less the order i was going in thank you

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 9:31 PM

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@olive obsidian reasoning being, if you switch CPU, it's best upgrading to a more modern one, which requires motherboard change, which also likely requires ram change.

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 9:31 PM

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in your case, its guaranteed to require ram change

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Which is why I think it's good upgrading the small things first

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before having to take everything out and swaping everything out

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 9:48 PM

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well in that case, my motherboard currently takes ddr3 which drastically limits the ram i can upgrade to now let alone in the future

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so might be worth the MB upgrade before ram?

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 9:49 PM

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if you upgrade the mainboard

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you will need a new cpu

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and new ram

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so those 3 are "locked" together

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this is because your board (and ram) are THAT old

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 9:51 PM

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ok so maybe best to do those 3 first and worry about VGA and hard drive later?

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 9:52 PM

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its what would make the most logical sense yes

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IF you really really want to upgrade something, then grab a ssd (if you dont have one already)

minor sun Apr 30, 2020, 9:53 PM

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(I was suggesting smaller upgrade because of the current situation with pricing and all, and I assumed they're buying in waves)

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 9:53 PM

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aye aye

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but he is forced with the mobo+ram+cpu

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 10:06 PM

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yeah i mean this is all from 2013 so i'm not surprised it's all outdated honestly

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 10:06 PM

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:)

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7 years is not a bad life for a machine @olive obsidian

olive obsidian Apr 30, 2020, 10:10 PM

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not at all! and really it still does pretty darn well considering!

heady raven Apr 30, 2020, 10:12 PM

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aye

dull vigil Apr 30, 2020, 10:56 PM

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@short lodge is there a way to change my storage settings from my c drive to my e drive (ssd)?

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or will it change when i delete the hdd c drive

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also my ssd is saying i only have 100 and some gigs left and its a 1tb ssd how do i fix that?

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i used 400 and some gb

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 11:07 PM

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@dull vigil with windows 10, go to the general folder, open your c drive folder, click and drag to select folders, and transfer them over, that's how I did mine

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I also specify W10 as that's the only one I know for certain

dull vigil Apr 30, 2020, 11:08 PM

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i was able to figure it out, thanks though

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 11:08 PM

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👍

dull vigil Apr 30, 2020, 11:09 PM

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since i cloned it all the files went to my ssd so in a few days i can wipe and re format my hdd

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and then i had to go into disk management and create a new partition for the rest of the unallocated space

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Nice, I have to partition mine, I have it all in a mess

dull vigil Apr 30, 2020, 11:10 PM

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lol i feel that

red jay Apr 30, 2020, 11:11 PM

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I'll wait till my new sshd comes in first

short lodge Apr 30, 2020, 11:21 PM

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@dull vigil Sorry I didn't get back to you. Do you still need my help?

dull vigil Apr 30, 2020, 11:49 PM

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@short lodge no i got some help from the other people here. i got it all figured out now lol, thanks anyways for the help

short lodge Apr 30, 2020, 11:56 PM

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okay cool

gaunt agate Apr 30, 2020, 11:56 PM

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that worked out ok then good

dull vigil Apr 30, 2020, 11:57 PM

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oh hey since i had to make a new partition cause i had 357gb of unallocated space is there a way to take that and add it to the e drive so i have just one main drive for the ssd? or does it have to stay as another drive

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sorry if thats confusing lol

gaunt agate Apr 30, 2020, 11:59 PM

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you should be able to click on the allocated drive space and choose to extend then it will tell you how much space is available to expand then it should just expand out utilizing that unallocated space

dull vigil May 1, 2020, 12:00 AM

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ah

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the extend volume is darkened

gaunt agate May 1, 2020, 12:01 AM

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Right click on it to get the menu then you should have choices like extend or shrink

dull vigil May 1, 2020, 12:01 AM

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i got it lol

gaunt agate May 1, 2020, 12:03 AM

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I just did mine lol I added some space to a SSD and Shrunk a space on the SSHD for better allocation of my games drive

dull vigil May 1, 2020, 12:04 AM

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ah

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yeah someone told me to just make a new partition so thats what i did but i didnt want that other drive lol

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coming from a 2008 hdd to an ssd is sooooo much better

gaunt agate May 1, 2020, 12:07 AM

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prob cause the smaller space would most likely be more efficient C: drive for O/S, E: drive for games etc everyone's got the own priorities

dull vigil May 1, 2020, 12:07 AM

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ah yeah true

gaunt agate May 1, 2020, 12:10 AM

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I have a 250GB SSD a 1TB SSHD and a 2TB storage drive

dull vigil May 1, 2020, 12:11 AM

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yeah, i eventually want to get an nvme for boot, then ill actually re install windows on that

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i only had a 640gb hdd, it was rough

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just to boot to desktop with that took about 3 mins or more.

gaunt agate May 1, 2020, 12:12 AM

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ouch

dull vigil May 1, 2020, 12:12 AM

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yeah it was rough

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now it takes seconds lol

gaunt agate May 1, 2020, 12:21 AM

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had to buy an adapter for my SSHD to use in the pc cause it came from my PS4 my Ps4 now with the use of a Nyko data bank has a WD 4Tb SSHD sad they don't make that drive anymore.

red jay May 1, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Lol

loud estuary May 1, 2020, 5:52 PM

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So... I would like some input on my planned raid setup. I will have 2x 1tb m.2 drives and 4x 2tb sshd drives, as well as a 3 tb drive that doesn't need backup.

I'm figuring on a raid 0 array on my nvme drivea, and my sshd drives split into two raid 0 arrays. Then I would have my nvme array and my primary sshd array backup weekly to my secondary sshd array, in a compressed format. Are there any issues with this plan?

rich estuary May 1, 2020, 7:15 PM

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My friend downloaded a video editor and somehow gained 7-8 GB of storage

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he first had 633GB free and now has 640GB free

shut furnace May 1, 2020, 7:35 PM

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well that's interesting

torpid adder May 1, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Maybe that's as a result of TRIM?

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Idk

vestal reef May 1, 2020, 10:17 PM

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Lol

gentle temple May 2, 2020, 5:37 AM

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you can try a recovery tool like testdisk or photorec to see if it can make sense of what's there, unfortunately, you just learned dd backups can be unreliable

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dd bypasses the filesystem and all the higher level error checking and relies almost entirely on the hardware, which means data corruption at hardware level, or even software level (as a result of incorrect dd usage) are possible, particularly if it's used against a live filesystem

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not to say disk imaging doesn't have its uses, but, for most of your backup needs going forward tar is going to be much more reliable

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sure, it won't preserve the bootloader, but, if that's all you ever lose, that's a very good day

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My pre-upgrade backup routine on linux for years has always been to make tarballs of /home and /etc on desktops, adding /usr/local/* where appropriate, and adding /var and related directories (/usr/var/, /usr/local/var) on servers , as everything else I can redownload & reinstall

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that said, full wipe and reinstall events for me on linux are exceedingly rare and generally only happen with storage hardware changes, otherwise I almost always upgrade in place, sometime even when changing distros, because I'm comfortable dealing with any problems that might arise as part of that process.

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(that said, unsupported upgrades and in place distro changes are not something I necessarily recommend trying without having a recovery plan)

gentle temple May 2, 2020, 6:00 PM

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hopefully most of those files will be intact

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also, for the future, ability to perform backups efficiently is one advantage of lvm

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you can pull a snapshot almost instantly, and then run backup utilities against the snapshot

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also a distinct advantage of a separate /home partition - you can wipe and reinstall the OS and keep your files

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or even a separate /home drive entirely

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can potentially replace the HDD with a SATA SSD at least, prices have come down a lot for them

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as well as potentially replace the existing SSD with a larger one

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it's probably mSATA or m.2

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:36 PM

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How would you access a SSD on a PC while on the hdd

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:38 PM

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if it has been enabled/mounted? its through your file system explorer of choice @tall tusk

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:38 PM

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Do you mean I could see the SSD through file explorer?@heady raven

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:38 PM

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IF it has been mounted/enabled ? yes

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try and explain what is it you are actually trying to do :)

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:39 PM

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Trying to move a game file to SSD for a faster startup time

shut furnace May 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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It might not come up if you have never formatted it

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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How do I format?

shut furnace May 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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If you windows install isn’t on a ssd id move your windows install to it

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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@tall tusk is your OS currently on the ssd or on the hdd?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:40 PM

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On the hard drive

shut furnace May 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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Ye id put windows on the ssd

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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@tall tusk is there any reason you have not moved your OS to the ssd?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:41 PM

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No I did not click that option when starting up I clicked it I have it run on the hdd

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for the longevity of a hard drive compared to the short of Life of SSD cuz I come to understand that they will burn themselves to death within the matter of 2 to 3 years

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At least that's what I've heard

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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whatever you have read, burn that site instead

shut furnace May 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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Hard drives can die faster than ssd

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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because that is very wrong info.

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:42 PM

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I am not a smart man

shut furnace May 2, 2020, 10:43 PM

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Putting windows on a ssd will improve load times dramatically

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:43 PM

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@tall tusk are you actually ON your final hardware now?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Do you mean if I have the graphics card installed?

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If that no

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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so, still the 730?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:44 PM

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Yes

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The shipment was delayed

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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ok

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How much of your setup process has actually been done/completed?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:45 PM

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You mean along the lines of installation of files and games and apps?

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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aye

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Pretty much close to done

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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shame

small steppeBOT May 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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Xeandreal#1008 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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So I take it I screwed up

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:46 PM

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how much space are you currently using on your OS harddrive?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:47 PM

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Two hundred gigabytes

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:47 PM

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okay

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that means its fairly easy to fix

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:48 PM

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So what do I do

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:48 PM

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please do the following

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right click your start button, select "disk management"

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and maximise the window that opens up

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and send a picture of that please

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Ok

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📎 IMG_20200502_175115168.jpg

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:52 PM

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did you not get a 1 tb ssd?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:53 PM

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No it was sold out so I got a 500

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:54 PM

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okay

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and now, please actually maximise the main window

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and send a picture when that is done

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

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📎 IMG_20200502_175523256_HDR.jpg

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:56 PM

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so, you also didnt get the second 2 tb hdd then?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:57 PM

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I didnt

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:57 PM

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okay

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you still have the usb stick you used to install windows with?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:57 PM

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Yes I do

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:57 PM

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2sec then

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https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

Macrium Reflect Free

reflect an image of your pc

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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But its the OEM windows not retail

heady raven May 2, 2020, 10:58 PM

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does not matter

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please download and install the free version from that link

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:09 PM

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Ok I'm done@heady raven

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:09 PM

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it has been installed?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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Yes

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:10 PM

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now, take the usb stick you used to install windows with

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plug it in

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and start up macrium reflect

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:13 PM

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It's started

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:13 PM

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in the menu bar of Reflect

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"Other Tasks"

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"Create Rescue media"

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:14 PM

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Ok now it's shows me a screen

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:14 PM

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picture please :)

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:15 PM

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📎 IMG_20200502_181510887.jpg

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Shows me dat

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:15 PM

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select the Removeable usb flash drive

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Ok

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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then click build

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:16 PM

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Ok

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I am honestly really sorry if I'm a headache

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:18 PM

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nothing to worry about :)

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and you are not.

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:19 PM

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Ok I'm glad

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Because I know how annoying I am to certain people

red jay May 2, 2020, 11:28 PM

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My 970 Evo gets hot enough I can feel it through my laptop case. Should I get a heatsink for it? I read online from Samsung and they don't say anything about recommening heatsinks.

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:31 PM

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@heady raven it's done

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:31 PM

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okay

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do you remember how you got your machine to start from the windows usb ?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Not really

open gazelle May 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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@red jay Fair amount of laptops use the laptop case as a heatsink for their components, like the NVMe

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Other than starting it up and doing the walkthrough

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:32 PM

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is the mainboard on the last PCPP list you posted here in public the right one?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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The motherboard?

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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yes

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:33 PM

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If that yes

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Yes

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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okay, restart the machine and press f11

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Ok

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:35 PM

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and select the usb stick in the menu that shows up

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and when that has started up, more instructions will follow :)

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:36 PM

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I have selected the flashdrive

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I'm now on a screen @heady raven

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:37 PM

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picture please :)

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(its not that i dont know where you SHOULD be, but i would like to make certain )

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:38 PM

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It'll be a bit cropped cause of the old TV I'm uaing

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:38 PM

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aye aye, no worries

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:38 PM

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📎 IMG_20200502_183829494.jpg

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:39 PM

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there are 2 tabs

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click the other one :)

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:39 PM

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I have

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Do you need new picture?

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:41 PM

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yes please :)

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:42 PM

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📎 IMG_20200502_184225132.jpg

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:43 PM

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click the top drive, then click "clone this disk"

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:44 PM

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Ok

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:44 PM

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picture of the screen that pops up :)

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:45 PM

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📎 IMG_20200502_184459133.jpg

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:45 PM

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good :)

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click the blue "select a disk to clone to" link

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:46 PM

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Ok

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:46 PM

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and you should in theory, only have 1 choice

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:46 PM

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I did

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I clicked it

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:46 PM

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picture again please :)

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:47 PM

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📎 IMG_20200502_184654623_BURST000_COVER_TOP.jpg

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:47 PM

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thats not good

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:48 PM

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Wha I do

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:48 PM

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not something you did now

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do you have a second usb stick?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:48 PM

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No

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This is the one I used

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:48 PM

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yes

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i am aware that is the one

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Have not used at all

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:49 PM

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i am asking IF you have another one

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so we could do something else with that OTHER one

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:49 PM

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Oh

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I gotta check

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:49 PM

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please do

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:50 PM

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I do not

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:51 PM

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okay, this just got way more complicated

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:51 PM

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Oh that's never good

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:51 PM

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the "problem" is that small partition (the blue bit) you see on the bottom drive

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that is NOT supposed to be there

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the only reason it is (normally there) is IF windows is using it for something

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the simple way to check IF that is the case.

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:52 PM

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The delete existing partition part?

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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DO NOT CLICK

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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I'm not touching them

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My hands have been away from keyboard and

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Mouse

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:53 PM

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the drive was supposed to be grey all the way over

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but, as i was saying:

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the only reason it is (normally there) is IF windows is using it for something
the simple way to check IF that is the case.

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is to unplug the drive from the system

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but, i am guessing your drive is the m.2 drive on your pcpp list right?

tall tusk May 2, 2020, 11:54 PM

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You mean the one that screw into the motherboard if so yes

heady raven May 2, 2020, 11:54 PM

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yes, that one

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so

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i would like you to do the following

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turn of your machine

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take out the usb stick, and set it aside for now

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Unplug the power cable.

then open up your case, and unscrew the m.2 drive and pull it out of the machine and set it aside

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then, after doing that.

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plug the power back in (dont bother closing the case side)

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and see if your windows actually boots

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:01 AM

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It boots

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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and the m.2 is NOT installed?

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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Corrclect

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:02 AM

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good

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power down

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unplug power

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install m.2

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close the case this time

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plug in power

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plug in usb stick

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get back to where we had everything before this test :)

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:06 AM

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Okay I am there

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:06 AM

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picture again :)

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:07 AM

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📎 IMG_20200502_190657137_HDR.jpg

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:08 AM

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click "delete existing partition"

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:08 AM

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Done

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:08 AM

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picture

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:09 AM

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📎 IMG_20200502_190855150_BURST000_COVER_TOP.jpg

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:09 AM

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click "next"

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:09 AM

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Ok

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Done

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:10 AM

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picture

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:11 AM

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heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:11 AM

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click finish

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:11 AM

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Ok

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This will take a while

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:15 AM

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aye

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:15 AM

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Would I have to do the same thing if I would want to move my os to a bigger SSD?

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I probably won't but would I?

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:15 AM

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what is happening right now, is this:

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everything on your mechanical harddrive, is being copied directly over to the ssd

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Yes

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:16 AM

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so, that when it is done

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for all intents and purposes, it is identical

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:16 AM

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Yes

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:16 AM

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the ssd is bored out of its mind doing this

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because the mech harddrive is THAT slow

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:17 AM

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Cause it's so fast

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Yeah

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:17 AM

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this is one of those places where a FAST ssd can be fun to have :)

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:18 AM

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So it would be MUCH faster with it on a SSD

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:18 AM

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as for your question about a bigger SSD

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re: yes, much faster if the source was a ssd

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re: bigger ssd: technically you would keep your OS on your current drive, and move everything else

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because a OS alone, wont be using 500 gigs :)

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:19 AM

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So it's more of an operating system user thena data keeper

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:20 AM

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if you added a bigger ssd ? yes

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:21 AM

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In what cases would I use the hard drive then

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?

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Would it be for the files that I wouldn't really need supersonic speed for?

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:22 AM

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aye

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i am personally of the opinion that a lot of people can make do just fine with JUST a ssd

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and they wont need a 1tb for that even :)

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but, you will experience first hand why i have that opinion when the cloning process is done

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:23 AM

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As I said before I live in a really poor internet area and I really have the option to delete the game and then reinstall it on a monthly basis I would eat through the data that I am given for the month

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So I'll probably go to that terabyte within a month maybe if our do you own all the games I would want

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:24 AM

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hence why i said "a lot of people" and not "all people"

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:24 AM

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FairPoint

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How do I access the hard drive from the SSD operating system or when I start it up I mean

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:25 AM

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it will automatically be there

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Will it just be there in file explorer?

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:25 AM

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but we need to fix some things

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because right now, it is still a "valid" drive to boot from

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we dont want that

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:25 AM

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Only want to boot from SSD yeah

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:26 AM

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aye

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:26 AM

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So I guess I'll get back to that after this is done with the complete cloning cuz it is only on 19% right now

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:26 AM

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basically

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here is what you are going to do

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when it is all done

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exit out of the program and shut down the machine

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and then open the case and pull the power cable from the harddrive

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thats the simple solution for now :)

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because i will be going to bed shortly :)

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:29 AM

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So we'll just continue this tomorrow

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:29 AM

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or whenever we hit each others timezones again :)

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:30 AM

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I mean I have nothing to do tomorrow I mean are you free tomorrow

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:30 AM

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someone else can also guide you through the rest

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Oh right there are others

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:30 AM

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but it is a VERY good idea to do a first boot after the cloning, with only the ssd powered

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just in case "something" went wrong somewhere

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:30 AM

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Ok i shall do that

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:31 AM

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IF it boots and the OS loads as normal (but a bunch quicker)

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it is then just a case of getting the old HDD formatted

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:32 AM

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Which is what should happen

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:32 AM

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elaborate?

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:32 AM

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It'll just boot with the SSD and a hard drive unplugged and work like normal then it should just be the matter of formatting the hard drive

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:33 AM

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aye

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and after that test, you can either wait for you and i to talk again

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or talk with one of the others here :)

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its a simple enough process from that point onwards

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:35 AM

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Okay thank you for your help today in naed
It's a process

heady raven May 3, 2020, 12:36 AM

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you are very welcome :)

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and i look forward to hearing your response to what it feels like after the clone is done:)

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 12:37 AM

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I'm sure I will notice it immediately

red jay May 3, 2020, 1:02 AM

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God a 1 minute boot time for an hdd

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 1:49 AM

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I tried booting the SSD and it's says inaccessible boot device

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Can someone help

minor sun May 3, 2020, 2:01 AM

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Is windows on the SSD?

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 2:08 AM

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if you would read the earlier messages it was on the hdd and i copied it on to the ssd and disconnected the hdd and tried to boot

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it with the ssd

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so i dont really know

minor sun May 3, 2020, 2:13 AM

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did you directly just clone windows?

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because that usually doesn't work

gentle temple May 3, 2020, 2:14 AM

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I'm always hurting for storage no matter how much I have I manage to fill it up.

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 2:14 AM

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i guess, i dont really know, what i do know is that i did a full copy from hdd to ssd

gentle temple May 3, 2020, 2:15 AM

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what did you use to do that copy?

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just dragging the files from one to another?

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 2:15 AM

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no

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i used reflectDLHF

gentle temple May 3, 2020, 2:16 AM

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and did you go from SATA to nvme, or from a SATA HDD to a SATA SSD?

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 2:17 AM

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sata hdd to nvme

gentle temple May 3, 2020, 2:17 AM

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if the ports changed It's quite possible it's just the wrong boot device selected in bios

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so check your boot options in bios

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make sure it's not still trying to boot from a device that isn't even connected.

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 2:18 AM

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I need a minute to do that

gentle temple May 3, 2020, 2:19 AM

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many boards have a setting to just boot from first SATA device found, but no such setting from nvme, in which case you'll have to explicitly tell it to boot the nvme in the settings.

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

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Motherboard bios or a different one

minor sun May 3, 2020, 2:21 AM

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The thing is, directly cloning the windows 10 partition usually doesn't work because the registery gets all screwed up

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 2:21 AM

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So what should I do?@minor sun

gentle temple May 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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make sure it's actually trying to boot from it first, before you give up.

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 2:22 AM

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It boots but says error not that it don't boot my bad

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Like it tries then error

gentle temple May 3, 2020, 2:23 AM

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it's possible windows will be ok, it's also possible you'll have to boot into safe mode, it's possible you'll have to do a startup repair to fix the boot configuration in the EFI partition, and it's also possible windows won't be able to figure out what to do and you'll have to reinstall.

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You'll probably need a windows installation USB drive to try most of the recovery/repair stuff.

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I have that at least

gentle temple May 3, 2020, 2:25 AM

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boot into it, go through the various startup repair options, and see if windows can fix itself

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though, at a certain point, the time it takes you might mean that it will be better to reinstall and migrate your data.

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Factor it at around 5 hours max for the reinstall unless your internet is absolutely terrible - an hour give or take to reinstall windows, two hours to update windows and install drivers, and two hours to install most of your software / start migrating data

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if you aren't going to save at least a decent portion of that, you're better off biting the bullet and reinstalling.

tall tusk May 3, 2020, 2:47 AM

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I'll just figure this out later it's late and I'm not wanting to work

dawn arch May 3, 2020, 3:47 AM

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soo, is there a way to clone my sata ssd to a nvme drive?

gentle temple May 3, 2020, 4:27 AM

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@tall tusk https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/bcdboot-command-line-options-techref-di#repair-the-system-partition that may help you, you should be able to get to a command line from either the existing system drive or from the recovery options of the installation usb stick and repair the bootloader that way

BCDBoot Command-Line Options

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https://www.easeus.com/partition-manager-software/fix-uefi-boot-in-windows-10-8-7.html also goes into detail on the recovery methods

Windows 10 Boot Repair: How to Fix UEFI Boot in Windows 10/8/7 - Ea...

This article provides effective methods and detailed guides for Windows 10 boot repair. If you are having problems with UEFI bootloader and fail to boot your Windows 10/8/7 system, follow the useful solutions to fix UEFI boot on Windows 10.

red jay May 3, 2020, 5:45 AM

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@tall tusk I would to backing up the os on the SSD, I did the same, just reverse

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I put a backup file of everything I own from SSD over to the HDD, and just deleted everything off of the HDD except the OS

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Sure it's more work, but I got it to work