storage-devices

[olive glade]

I was told not to do Nas here on this server

[formal tusk]

Ehh

Well

How many 2.5 slots do you have on the case?

[olive glade]

I could I wanted to do a Nas for movies though

Just 2 slots m.2

[formal tusk]

Hmm

[olive glade]

I'm using one of them for 2tb ssd for my larger games like Microsoft Flight Simulator

[formal tusk]

What 2tb m.2 is it?

You only have one 2.5" space?

[formal tusk]

That's worth keeping

Ok

[olive glade]

I was going to move my os onto this one

[formal tusk]

You should

That will actually speed things up

[formal tusk]

?

[olive glade]

Because my 512 ssd sata is almost filled up

Because some software can't be installed on other drives I use

[formal tusk]

Ima bbl there's a large fire 5 minutes away

[olive glade]

Bring the marshmallows

Vegas is one of the ones you basiccly direct install to the c drive

Have to sleep though, might be working tomorrow

[turbid crater]

What do people use m2 drives with pci 4 for?

[minor sun]

Faster means nicer for stuff like moving say large raw 4k footage around for content creation

maybe loading up huge renders

[turbid crater]

How about 4k movies? Or movies that weight between 5 to 13 gigs

[minor sun]

It's nice but it's probably not worth it if you're not moving them around every day

[turbid crater]

True.

[turbid crater]

Which do u recommend for 2tb m2 drive? Getting a 2tb m2 drive plus 2 tb hdd for gaming and movies/tv series

[warm meteor]

Came to ask and nmve SSD and apparently joined at the right time

Looking for a 1tb m.2 but unsure which way to go again. Probably just for extra storage not os. But I want to run virtual environment

[minor sun]

Cheap tier https://www.newegg.com/team-group-mp33-2tb/p/N82E16820331431
Top tier https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09QVD9V7R

Meet in the middle tier https://www.newegg.com/msi-2tb-spatium-series/p/N82E16820140014

Just buy what you feel like spending, if you want to splurge some, go ahead, if you want to save that 50$ instead, keep your money and grab the cheap option

[minor sun]

Probably don't need anything more than https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZGJVTZK

But if you want a faster drive than that, this isn't much more https://www.newegg.com/solidigm-1tb-p41-plus/p/N82E16820329021

[warm meteor]

Thank you!

[dense merlin]

Nv2 is $130 rn

[warm meteor]

Curious what brands should be avoided

[dense merlin]

Brand doesn't mean much

Model is more important

For example, western digital makes the sn850x which is one of the best, and then the sn300

[warm meteor]

Well I mean I saw crucial and wd and such but then I saw one called predator but can you even trust the amzn reviews lol

I was even thinking of getting something fast and mirroring everything over to the new one so boot and all

[red jay]

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/4PYmP6/samsung-980-pro-heatsink-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v8p1t0cw
Good?

[warm meteor]

Oh didn't even think of part picker. Good reminder.

How important is a heat sink on these? My Asus mobo came with a little stuck on cover but I doubt it helps.

https://a.co/4USZ6Iu how about this @minor sun

[minor sun]

if you want a faster drive, at least do like
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09T2S1Z8T
or
https://www.newegg.com/msi-1tb-spatium-series/p/N82E16820140015

[warm meteor]

That's cool I just don't know which ones are ok. I'm too used to going for known name brands

I like that first one. Affordable and fast

What's the draw back though? Lol. There's gotta be a catch

[minor sun]

The xs70? It has e18 and b47r, basically the best controller and nand on the market right now

downside to m480 is slightly worse nand, still good, but not b47r

[warm meteor]

Oh the pcmag review I just saw says 3.5 star and something about the write speed.

Wanted to ask about the Acer predator also

I'll need to reread all this

[minor sun]

Screw pcmag smh

[warm meteor]

Lol I googled.

[minor sun]

Look at the tom's hardware review

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/silicon-power-xpower-xs70-review/1

[warm meteor]

I agree. I check toms and part picker reviews

[minor sun]

Heatsink is a bit bad, that's about it

[warm meteor]

Oh yeah the heat sink looked bulky rather than functional. Maybe I can just buy another instead? Be

https://a.co/babxIYZ

Simple like that perhaps

[minor sun]

That looks worse

[minor sun]

most half decent motherboards nowadays come with a heatsink for your m.2 slot anyways

could just use that

[warm meteor]

I have Asus x570.

[minor sun]

if not, most likely, the stock heatsink is fine

[warm meteor]

It looks worse but the way it's formed I think would be good airflow

[minor sun]

nah, that's going to be much worse tbh

way thinner

There's a reason why we use heatsinks instead of just blowing directly at the silicon

[warm meteor]

Yeah. But that xs70 would function properly with their provided sink right? I mean I'd assume so

[minor sun]

that screenshot is from the review

It wasn't that bad

[warm meteor]

Of the xs? Ok cool. I'll read it more in depth. Maybe a YouTube review lol

[minor sun]

no one really does good youtube reviews of drives lol

youtube reviews tend to include cdm and nothing else

[warm meteor]

I know. It blows

[minor sun]

which doesn't tell you much outside of what it markets anyways

[warm meteor]

True

Also the x570 bad slots... Concern there? I need to pull my case apart to see if that's going to be in a bad position

[minor sun]

?

[warm meteor]

The placement. I don't remember the layout. Looking at images looks to be main at button and other off to the side of the cpu

Welp you're good man. Xs70 it is lol

Thanks again for your help!

What do you think when you see reviews on Newegg for these parts saying they died in 6 months and such? That xs70 has a lot of those. Seen them on the graphics cards too.

[minor sun]

my opinion is that it's just statistics, out of 10,000 buyers, a 0.1% chance of failure still means 10 people that will report failures

[warm meteor]

Yeah agreed. Just fluke. Plus sp provides a long warranty

[minor sun]

it's good but these are better
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/DgTzK8/adata-xpg-gammix-s70-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-agammixs70-1t-c
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/vrTp99/solidigm-p44-pro-1-tb-m2-2280-pcie-40-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-ssdpfkkw010x7x1

[warm meteor]

Will check em out. Thanks

Solidigm™ P44 Pro Series 1TB PCIe GEN 4 NVMe 4.0 x4 M.2 2280 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive, Read/Write Speed up to 7000MB/s and 6500MB/s, SSDPFKKW010X7X1… https://a.co/4P5idLN

Ok I'll compare em. Thanks again

[minor sun]

p44 pro is just cheaper in the UK, it's basically same performance as xs70, which is 20$ cheaper in the US

[warm meteor]

I see

Comparing it with the 980 and another

[minor sun]

980 pro worse than both

980 is a whole different tier

[warm meteor]

Gotcha. Thanks. Will compare the others then

[mental plaza]

dont temp us, I'm this close to wasting my income this month on stuff I already have

[sharp folio]

Does anyone have any experience with Avolusion drives?

Never mind

[warm meteor]

higher cost doesnt always mean better product right? lol.

[real lava]

it kinda bugs me how so many people automatically goes to samsung for ssd

they used to be the top dog sure, but things always changes

it's that brand name

[warm meteor]

yeah. been looking at silicon power and solidigm

i like that their warranty is strong

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/silicon-power-xpower-xs70-review like this one mr 111 showed me. 5 year warranty

[small carbon]

Plat p41 is a good deal right now too if we ignore 1TB & below. I wonder for os only should I do the $83 P31 or some $60ish option still good?

[dense merlin]

P41 plus is $60

Or nv2 I think

[warm meteor]

Ever heard of this @minor sun

Limited-time deal: Nextorage Internal SSD 1TB for PS5 and PC Memory Expansion M.2 2280 Gen4 NVMe with Heatsink NEM-PA1TB/N SYM Maximum Transfer Rate Read: 7300MB/s, Write: 6000MB/s https://a.co/5t03cq5

[dense merlin]

Pretty mid price

[minor sun]

Same price as xs70 iirc

[warm meteor]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07TLYWMYW/ref=sspa_dk_detail_6?pd_rd_i=B07TLYWMYW&pd_rd_w=HHYXR&content-id=amzn1.sym.bff6e147-54ad-4be3-b4ea-ec19ea6167f7&pf_rd_p=bff6e147-54ad-4be3-b4ea-ec19ea6167f7&pf_rd_r=PXSCZAME26YJTK4298Z7&pd_rd_wg=ISrfs&pd_rd_r=b4b7a06e-135c-4506-8a1b-f030e032cbe3&s=pc&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWwy&th=1

yeah but i mean quality or brand. never heard of them. thats the prob i have.

oh and this sabrent one. aren't they a good brand with good product?

[minor sun]

Just go by the actual hardware

Rocket 4 has similar hardware to like MSI M470

Rocket 4 Plus has e18 and b47r, same as xs70

[warm meteor]

ok so if its simlar i might as well go wtih the sabrent one b/c they have a 50 coupon on amazon for it

just comparing every little bit thats important or not against the price and reviews. b/c i'm a researcher. i wish i could just be like oh that looks pretty i'll buy that one

[minor sun]

This is rocket 4, NOT rocket 4 plus

[warm meteor]

ohhh

i see what you're saying

[warm meteor]

woudl be nice if they'd use the same designations for things

[craggy heath]

Would I be able to move the Wi-Fi card and put another ssd?

Also I don’t know if this is a prime B550M-A or prime B5000M-K

Mobo

[tribal jackal]

Best 1 tb ssd for around 100 dollars CAD on newegg.ca???

[blazing musk]

That looks like the card is in a mSATA slot and SSDs that fit in there are super expensive

[blazing musk]

Best overall https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-1tb-blue-sn570-nvme/p/N82E16820250211
Best value https://www.newegg.ca/team-group-mp33-1tb/p/N82E16820331417

[craggy heath]

so, I would not be able to fit a mp33 pro in there?

[blazing musk]

No the slot isn't long enough and the keying is different so it won't physically fit

[craggy heath]

your talking about the black card and not the green one right?

[blazing musk]

No the green one with antennas

Look at the shape of the slot

Vs how the contacts are on nvme

[craggy heath]

ya i know the mp33 wont fit in the green card slot, but if i remove the black card can i fit the mp33 ssd in there

[blazing musk]

This will not physically fit in the slot

Look at the contacts

[craggy heath]

ok, thank you for your help

[tribal jackal]

alright what about 2 tb

are the same ones the best for that

[blazing musk]

MP33 2TB for $170 yeah

[tribal jackal]

k

on the second one you sent there is a options menu what is the best option?

[blazing musk]

MP33 is the best value, Pro and MP34 are slight upgrades that most gamers won't notice

Sometimes the pro will be the same price as regular and that's when I'd recommend that one

[tribal jackal]

k

how much better is the first one you sent to the second one

[blazing musk]

It might make a couple seconds of difference in load times for certain games

[tribal jackal]

ok

Well I am getting this as a second storage thing because my storage is full

so where would I plug in

[blazing musk]

Most relatively modern motherboards have M.2 slots to fit the drive into, no cables required

[tribal jackal]

ok

[polar marten]

have anyone found any good ssd deals in canada? (500g or 1tb, doesnt have to be fast)

[blazing musk]

https://www.newegg.ca/team-group-mp33-1tb/p/N82E16820331417

75 cad

[polar marten]

tysm!

[fringe mesa]

Limited-time deal: SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB PCIe NVMe Gen4 M.2 2280 Internal SSD l Up to 7,000MB/S l Compact M.2 SSD Form Factor SK hynix SSD - Internal Solid State Drive with 176-Layer NAND Flash https://a.co/d/ggZynYd

Their $169 right now. Are they really better than the 2tb Kingston Fury NVME?

[real lava]

which fury?

[fringe mesa]

Which fury what?

I'm using the 2tb Kingston fury nvme, if that's what your asking. I purchased 3 of the above SK Hynix 2TB to use as external drives.

[small carbon]

I hate how tempting that price is. Yes, google Hynix p41 review & you'll find how it's "arguably" the overall best drive, especially considering price. Sn850x is nearly a tie, & 990 Pro is better but $$$.

[hasty loom]

if its so temping buy one for yourself and buy me one 😂

ive been using a western blue digital 500gb cheap af sata for quite a few years lol

[small carbon]

When it was a decent $208. (this adapter actually is gen 4, but z77 mobo obviously wasn't)-' Just got a nice b660. Edit: ah, hdd! I had couple normal 1TB wd blues then only a year or so ago started using an mx500. This P41 is from prime day, & barely filled so far. Also thinking instead maybe do the $83 P31 1TB for boot drive so I don't mess w/ currently used drives.

[turbid crater]

980pro cost only 10 bucks more but takes a few more weeks to ship to me but sk p41 2tb takes up to middle of next week to ship and 10 usd less

[small carbon]

Right on. Yea, 980 pro to me overall isn't even same tier as p41/sn850x so I feel it should be even less.

[dense merlin]

980 pro is like s70 blade tier I believe

[minor sun]

Worse

S70 blade is top tier

P41 just comes out a bit on top

[dense merlin]

Oh really

Thought xs70 was the only one out of the three s70s that kept up

[minor sun]

S70 uses equivalent innogrit controller, xs70 just uses e18 so more conventional

It's small variations within top tier drives

Like s70 might be a lil worse than xs70 same way P41 might be a lil better than xs70

[dense merlin]

Ah

[turbid crater]

so p41 is like top tier ssd

[olive glade]

🤔

[turbid crater]

way too expensive

[dense merlin]

Sn850x is just as good as p41

Normally cheaper

[turbid crater]

why getting sata ssd's and not m2 ssds

[turbid crater]

amazon us p41 is cheaper than sn850x atm

[real lava]

im sure he's just wondering about the wacky prices lmao

also tbh 299 for 4tb ssd ain't bad

it's pretty decent

sata or not, it's a good price

for storage, sata ssd will be fast enough for majority of uses

unless you move big files all the time i guess

[turbid crater]

true but everything else is just too expensive

for a 4tb ssd sata

[olive glade]

Ya

It also makes a good laugh sometimes

What do you recommend for 4tb for games? I have 1 m.2 slot open and 1 ssd sata. I was going to move my games from a hdd

[turbid crater]

2tb at max. most games are 50gigs on average

hdd is a bit slower

than ssd sata

[turbid crater]

u playing on pc or xbox?

[olive glade]

Pc

[turbid crater]

that is around 100 gigs or so

[olive glade]

I had to delete games like titanfall 2

[turbid crater]

how big is ur ssd?

[olive glade]

I have a 2tb ssd just for open world games although I will br moving my os to that 2tb and wanting a 4tb ssd to move rest of my games

It's this

Large = basiccly open world

[turbid crater]

why dont u install them on ur m2 drive?

[olive glade]

I don't delete games majority of the time

On a 30mbps download it takes a while

[turbid crater]

then get better internet

[olive glade]

Better internet we pay around $80 for 30mbps

[turbid crater]

u dont delete games even though u finished single player games?

[olive glade]

Sometimes skyrim and few others I don't

Some are on backlog as well that I started but never finished

[turbid crater]

why arent there any games on ur m2 drive

[olive glade]

I was going to use it for my os

[turbid crater]

os is not gonna need 2 tb off space

[olive glade]

I have only 150gb left of my os drive because of the dumb apps I use that installs directly to the c os drive 😒

[turbid crater]

then why didnt u set up the m2 drive as ur boot drive

[olive glade]

I got that later 3 months ago

I'll have to do it later but I was looking at black Friday deals in the process

[turbid crater]

u probably need to wipe ur windows drive set up m2 drive as boot drive in ur bios

[olive glade]

I built a pc this year before I only had a 1tb hdd and 2tb for games on my old, I changed it to a sata 512gb for boot for the os

[turbid crater]

2tb p41 for 170 at nvme pci 4.0x4 read and write speeds 7000 mbps not bad

[olive glade]

I have 2tb gold one, platinum cane out around a month later after I bought it

It was a sad day

I wasn't reading up on them at that time so I wasn't aware of the platinum version

I would rather have
1tb - os
4tb - hdd for stuff
4tb sdd for game's

Personal this frees up spots and space in my computer for better airflow then have 2 hdd right behind a fan

[turbid crater]

im getting plat version

[small carbon]

For a lot of tasks (gaming), P31 is barely slower. It still sort of outranks some gen 4 options. Although only reason I'm thnking of it is the 500GB model is a decent $45ish. I had 250 OS +1000GB mx500s & will at least double to maybe 500GB OS + 2TB storage.

[olive glade]

Faster then a hdd😅

[olive glade]

3 levels

Hdd
Sata ssd
M.2

[small carbon]

Oh I know. M.2 main thing for me is no cables. Of course good price though too. In some tasks like most games it's often barely faster than sata. No doubt bigger difference combined w/ modern cpu and not my 3770. --- waiting for another true deal on 12600K or at least 12400 even if the F models are sometimes nice price.

[sour wadi]

You don't use floppy?

[blazing musk]

Chad tape drive

[fringe mesa]

Notice how they don't actually break down the actual read/write speeds? I mistake I will never fall for again. Made that mistake three years ago when I built 4 Z390 Aorus Master gaming systems. I had just learned of NVME, and the Sabrent rockets, the 1tb gave me so much hell. They were no way near as fast as they advertised, and worst, every system would BSOD when I tried to do a full windows 10 install. Only way to get Windows 10 on those systems, was to install to an SSD, and the clone the image onto the rocket NVME. That issue ended once I got rid of the rockets, and replaced the NVME with either Kingston fury or SK Hynix platinum P41 NVME's.

Sabrent rocket, no matter how pretty they make the new ones sound, I myself no longer trust.

SABRENT Rocket 4 Plus-G 2TB Advanced Gaming M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD, up to 7GBps (SB-RKTG-2TB) https://a.co/d/7EK4yMT

[olive glade]

i have floppies i was thinking of getting a floppy drive to see if there is anything still on it

[tribal jackal]

What would you recommend

I cant deside

[tribal jackal]

I have the ASUS Prime B560M

I have 1 tb of storage already

So if I run out what would I do as well

this would be the second storage thing

[sour wadi]

I prefer punch cards tbh

[sour wadi]

Lol do it

[olive glade]

The reason being there should be floppies with old games on them even a counter strike map of my high school

[fringe mesa]

I have old 5.25 and 3.5 Maxell disks from 1985+, and surprisingly, the few I checked can still be read. They are the ones that came in the free white foldable plastic box.

Others I can't check exactly as I no longer have the equipment that reads them. Was stolen years ago

[dawn sand]

thats why i download all mine i dont got time to redownload bc it takes years 2

[turbid crater]

when u download a game on nvme it will still take as long as ur internet connection takes right?

[blazing musk]

This is why tape drives are Chad. If stored halfway correctly you can read it decades later.

[fringe mesa]

My 500mb ide still reads fine too.

Not sure if it 2001 or 2002, as I have several. Long as I disconnect them, they don't wear down. Now one thing that does concern me are cdrs that look like a moth got to them called CD rot.

I got my 3 Hynix P41 drives today. Can't exactly use them as planned for the steam deck. To bad they don't make some kind of micro SD to usb adapter.

[turbid crater]

thats a lot of storage

[fringe mesa]

At $169 each, for a 2TB, I got a few whether I needed them immediately or not. If I couldn't get them to work with the steam decks, was going to use them on the 3 Z690 builds that run quite well on the 2tb Kingston fury. If they do prove faster, I'll clone the fury drives and use the p41s as drive 0, and fury as emergency boot, or just store steams games and video on them.

Originally I was going to use them with the steam decks, through usb port, but read up more on the specifics and how one must mount them every time you use the deck, which is a bit annoying.

[turbid crater]

how would u rate the p41 platinum 2tb?

[small steppe]

B0az24#3104 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

B0az24#3104 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[fringe mesa]

Until I see one in use, I can't say. From the ones I have, the Fury has been the best, and looking forward to be proven wrong, as many here been telling me the P41 is much better. The only NVME brand I purchased so far that lies about their speeds has been the Sabrent rockets. Not only do they not go as fast as advertised, they led me to believe the blue screening when installing windows 10 was a motherboard issue, which those boards were z390. Once I put Kingston fury in, no more bsod when installing on them.

[turbid crater]

if i wanted to install another nvme at a later date do i need to plug anything from psu to motherboard again or is it plug and play

[fringe mesa]

Does your motherboard have another slot?

[turbid crater]

yeah 1 at pci 4.0 and 2nd at pci 3.0

[minor sun]

Plug and play, just need to initialize the drive

[fringe mesa]

What I don't understand, is why you would need to plug anything from PSU to motherboard. Nvme are plug and play, though some boards they need to be turned on in bios.

[turbid crater]

from bios?

[minor sun]

Windows, disk management

[turbid crater]

thanks. im gonna add a 2nd nvme for movies and tv series

[minor sun]

You're welcome

[turbid crater]

or should i just use hdd?

[minor sun]

Depends on budget and just how much storage you need

[fringe mesa]

I no longer use flash drives for os installs. Made a few NVME USB drives which speed OS installs up 90%

[minor sun]

Some nvme drives are as cheap as about 120$ for 2tb now, but if you need the extra storage for cheap, HDDs are still cheaper

[turbid crater]

i will probably get a 2tb hdd then

[fringe mesa]

I keep my movies and steam games on a second NVME, and Windows and it's needed programs on drive 0. This way I don't have to reinstall everything should I have to format, and the fast NVME basically kill most game lag with games like Minecraft, Terraria, and Starbound. I find that an NVME that's not just fast at reading, but fast at writing, for games that constantly write to the hard drive like the ones above, prevent the bottlenecking I was having on my Z390. One thing to note, if you use a WI-FI PCI Express card, the NVME by them tend to conflict, so if you have wifi card, I recommend moving it to another slot, away from the NVME slots. The WiFi cards may look small, but they do in fact still fit the larger slots.

[turbid crater]

have wifi on mobo.

[fringe mesa]

.
I host a webserver and many game servers, so the NVME has been a godsend, compared to using sata spindles.

[turbid crater]

@fringe mesa so the time to download game on nvme is still dependent on internet speed right?

[fringe mesa]

Correct

[turbid crater]

@fringe mesa i just game and watch movies and tv on my pc. i will probably get a 2tb hdd for movies and tv series

[fringe mesa]

If you have cable internet, you can take advantage of an NVMEs full potential.

[turbid crater]

yeah but i really cant wire it router is across the house on another floor

[fringe mesa]

I discovered something when I built my first z690. Having SATA drives slowed the boot process down 75%. Instead of going into Windows 11 login at power up, I sat waiting about 70 seconds for my new system to fully load. Disconnected the SATA drives, and used several 2tb NVME, I'm back into instant boot up again. Also, after I cloned my steam library to the NVME, the 2TB fury, I no longer had any lag spikes when my friends and I tested Starbound out. Lag spikes were just horrid every time we went near one of our space stations, as most of us have lots of chests which load up when you board a space station.

I paid $600 for an ASUS router, to end up using the Ethernet connection for my own system. Was amazed at how much speed was lost connecting over WiFi

I wish I knew about this discord a few years ago when I built my 4 Z390 systems. Would have never made the purchase mistakes I did had I known. Then again, some of the mods here cringed when they saw the 3 new builds I purchased this time around, but at least I didn't make the power supply mistake again. Meaning using GameMax. Yeah I lose RGB effects, but can't see the PSU anyway in my glass Thermaltake case. I did gut the fans for better ones though.

[dense merlin]

If it makes you feel better, the first pc i bought was before I was here

[fringe mesa]

I'm still waiting on my replacement PCB with bios from Seagate. Only found out back in September that all my drives that died, were killed by the GameMax power supply. Each cold boot up sent double voltage so fast down the SATA power lines, a meter didn't detect it. Only an oscilloscope can. The PCB I'm waiting for had to come from Seagate, because a normal PCB fix I would transfer a PCB from same type drive and transfer the bios, but the bios was fried too.

[dense merlin]

I essentially spent $1200 on a 3060 ti 3600 and 1tb ssd, since the rest of the build was garbage

[fringe mesa]

My build runs on an RGB MSI 2060 with 8 GB ram. I grabbed 3 EVGA 2060 last Xmas with 12gb for $350 each, while all others were at 2k

Looking at the other builds, like the ASUS Z97 gamer, had no clue they had NVME support. Something I would have found out had I been here lol.

To be honest, Neweggs website did point them out when buying the components, but the price and not knowing back then what they were, ignored reading up.

I also avoid ASUS products like the plague. Was burned badly with their Nexus tablets. Burned is an understatement. My kids bunk bed cover a burn mark in the rug, where one of the chargers almost caused a fire, as they burned very very hot

[minor sun]

that's quite far off

That's a huge stretch

Sampoong was years of mismanagement and incompetence before the breaking point

It's just such a stretch to compare a huge disaster with one bad last minute patch lol

It's more far off disasters that doesn't have anything in common with Asus lol

it's just such a stretch, like saying walking on grass will lead to nuclear war tomorrow, adding shock value to something that shouldn't have any shock value

[formal tusk]

If I fall today, gigabyte will backstab me in 3 years

[minor sun]

Takata did all the testing they thought reasonable for the airbags, it was a cost saving measure, they just didn't test the long term effects of changing the gas for example

Hoverboard fires, it's just shoddy work, because it's a scummy company that doesn't care

They want the hoverboards to fail so they can sell you more

[fringe mesa]

Shoddy work, improper testing, all parts of cutting costs that backfired lol 😂

[minor sun]

And again, it's just random tragedies at this point, nothing to do with anything else other than being tragedies

[turbid crater]

those are buildings that contractors built who cut corners not the company who owns the building

[sour wadi]

@fringe mesa stop talking about random tragedies in storage chat please

[fringe mesa]

Sorry Pato.

Anyways, until I get the time to test the p41s, Kingston fury is top of my list of great NVME. To be honest, I do take the mods word that it's better. They haven't been wrong in anything else they told me, and the fact the p41 platinum has been $269 to $469, the fact they are $169 now, is definitely a risk worth taking. The worst that can happen if you don't like it, is to send it back for full refund.

[plush crag]

$600 router

[formal tusk]

That emote

[turbid crater]

should i get sn850x vs sk hynix p41 2tb?

[dense merlin]

Whichever is cheaper

Real world performance they're identical

[turbid crater]

they both cost the same on amazon. 169.99 but p41 ship faster, sn arrival on 18th though i wont build pc til after dec 13th

[formal tusk]

What are you putting on them

[turbid crater]

4.0 m2 drive.

[formal tusk]

No I mean, what's it being used for specifically lol

[turbid crater]

gaming

[formal tusk]

You don't need 4.0 for that

Solidigm p41 plus is a cheaper 4.0 if you really want that, or go mp33 2tb for 120

[turbid crater]

i trust wd better

[formal tusk]

It's nice but it's not gonna give you anything more than like, 2 seconds of load time

[dense merlin]

Then p41

Actuallt since you're not budding

Building

Istfg my auto correct

Anyways, doesn't matter

[turbid crater]

im doing a full build from ground up.

[dense merlin]

They perform near identically

Yes, since you're not building till Dec 13th*

Then it doesn't matter

[formal tusk]

I would put the extra 50 to the gpu tbh

[turbid crater]

i get sn850x since i trust more

[dense merlin]

Hynix is a bigger company than wd lol

Their nand is in 50% of gpus

[formal tusk]

They also have the fastest ddr5

[turbid crater]

didnt know that

[formal tusk]

Hynix, samsung, micron, big bois of nand

[turbid crater]

50 bucks more in gpu wont be enough to push me from 6800xt to 6900xt

[formal tusk]

It will used

[dense merlin]

With gen 4 ssds so cheap, when will high end gen 3 ones drop in price

I want 2tb p31 at $130

[formal tusk]

Also I wouldn't gamble on gpu's of last gen getting cheaper, if they're selling out now then they're running down the stock

[turbid crater]

i want gpus new not used

[formal tusk]

Production will ramp down, then prices might slowly creep up

[dense merlin]

Might end up having to wait for 7700xt

[turbid crater]

yeah thanks

[dense merlin]

Wait im doing some mental gymnastics rq

7700xt should match or beat the 3090/6900xt for much cheaper

[formal tusk]

Ok so if we go by the old rumour mill

[dense merlin]

Well, 7900xtx is supposed to be between 4080 and 4090

[formal tusk]

Full N31 was supposed to be 2.5x faster than full N21

But it's looking to be only 1.5x faster

[dense merlin]

7900xt probably matches 4080, 7800xt probably between 3090 and 4080

[minor sun]

We wait

[formal tusk]

They pitched N33 as equal speed to 6900XT

[minor sun]

For benchmarks

[dense merlin]

Yeah

[formal tusk]

So if we go by the rough math

N33 is 7600/XT ye?

[dense merlin]

Not sure

[formal tusk]

N23 is 6600/XT

So n33 if we estimate using existing data should be around the 6700XT mark

7600/XT

7700 XT is maybe a 15% jump over that so maybe just under vanilla 3080/roughly 6800 perf?

Ima check the die sizes again

[dense merlin]

Just wait for 7500xt to match a 1030 in performance

[formal tusk]

Yeah it's prolly gonna be somewhere near 10gb 3080 or 6800/XT

If we use AMD's graphs

Which is about to be expected really

But all the new gen features

[dense merlin]

I really hope there's going to be a decent pcie powered card this gen

The last one was 1650

We're due for one

[formal tusk]

Indood

[dense merlin]

Well there's the one workstation one

But that doesn't count

[formal tusk]

The nvidia one?

A2000 or whatever it was

[dense merlin]

Yeah

Smthn like that

[formal tusk]

That thing is adorable

[dense merlin]

Can never remember which one it is

[dense merlin]

No u

[formal tusk]

Well workstation naming makes less sense

[tribal jackal]

https://www.newegg.ca/western-digital-1tb-blue-sn570-nvme/p/N82E16820250211
https://www.newegg.ca/team-group-mp33-1tb/p/N82E16820331417

What should I pick

if someone could lmk thanks

[dawn sand]

So higher TB hard drives get hotter?

[dawn sand]

is this good game stgorage

[real lava]

it's fine

[blazing musk]

SN570 is a slightly better drive but it won't matter if you're just gaming. MP33 is the best value drive pretty consistently.

[dawn sand]

this seems like enough storage

[blazing musk]

Nah you got 2 more SATA ports and a few PCIe slots to fill still

[sour wadi]

Exactly that's easily an extra 16 drives right there

[dawn sand]

My pc case only has 2 sata poets and 2 hard drive slots

[sour wadi]

That's what duct tape is for

[dawn sand]

Bruh

[blazing musk]

There's also cages you can buy and stack

[vital osprey]

Hey everyone... anyone know what kinda SSD i would need for MSI GP Series Vector GP66 12UGS-028CA

does it support PCIe gen 3?

pls pm me

[brisk dome]

If it's an SSD it doesn't even need to be secured tbh

[blazing musk]

According to Crucial it support PCIe 4.0 so it'll be backwards compatible to 3.0

[dawn sand]

Lol

[signal garden]

posting in here as well

the bottom is a 4tb hard drive and the 1600gb unallocated partition just isn’t doing anything and also it’s 2 portions instead of one and everything is greyed out for that second one

[floral sun]

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PCIe-NAND-NVMe-3500MB/dp/B0B25P44CL/ref=sr_1_6?crid=XXINGBZBRFS6&keywords=m.2%2Bssd%2B4tb&qid=1669783604&sprefix=m.2%2B%2Caps%2C880&sr=8-6&th=1 Thinking of buying this to upgrade my storage, does the price justify what i'd be getting?

[small steppe]

awsomenemo123#6160 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

awsomenemo123#6160 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[blazing musk]

Clean the disk in Diskpart

It'll be like a newly initialized drive

[signal garden]

what would i type into diskpart?

just like select disk 1

clean or something

[blazing musk]

select disk 1 clean

That's it

[signal garden]

says error because it contains current boot

didnt install windows on this though

[blazing musk]

Sheesh it has your bootloader on it

Thanks M$

[signal garden]

i installed it on the ssd which is that top one

[blazing musk]

Yep and it used the reserved partition on the other disk

[signal garden]

sadge micro

[blazing musk]

Ok there is a way to fix that but it's complicated, it's probably easier to wipe out what I believe is a logical volume on the disk first

[signal garden]

how would i do tha?

[blazing musk]

Back to diskpart
list volume

[blazing musk]

Yep looks like Volume 3 is the culprit

select volume 3
delete volume

Your bootloader will still be on the same disk but at least you'll have the rest of the drive to work with

While you're there you can create partition primary

Which will create an unformatted partition to fill the blank space of the currently selected disk

[signal garden]

in the image i sent, its split already unallocated

i made it into one after a while of the post

[blazing musk]

Right but the partition table is damaged or something and it thinks there's something there still

So deleting the volume that doesn't technically exist from the table will merge the free space

[signal garden]

deleted and did create partition and in disk management its still split and still grayed out for that second portion when trying to create volume

[blazing musk]

Well looks like the complicated route it is. Hope you've got a current backup.

[signal garden]

nope but theres nothing on this pc

so really nothing i need to backup

[blazing musk]

In that case it's easiest to pull the second drive and reinstall Windows with only the SSD installed

Then you'll be able to clean the disk

[signal garden]

alrighty, will do that then on my next day off

thanks for the help

weird that it even did that

[blazing musk]

It's what I do

Yeah that's unusual but not anything I haven't seen before

Combining the issue with the "Windows doesn't want to boot from the installed drive" issue is a curveball lol

[bitter tree]

Mp34 or solidigm p41 plus

1tb both

[minor sun]

P41 plus

[tribal jackal]

Ok thank you

[turbid crater]

anyone have sk hynix p41 2tb how is the nvme?

[blazing musk]

What about it? It's one of the fastest drives available right now

[turbid crater]

what is their review on it?

[minor sun]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sk-hynix-platinum-p41-ssd-review

https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/sk-hynix-platinum-p41

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sk-hynix-platinum-p41-2-tb/

[turbid crater]

thx

[signal garden]

@blazing musk I’m too lazy to switch hdmi to my other monitor so we installing windows like this for now

[dawn sand]

[blazing musk]

If it works it works

[signal garden]

unplugging the hard drive fixed it. was able to delete the partition off the hard drive, convert and fix the split and format it as the full 4tb

now to try and wipe everything on this pc again and get rid of bloatware

and install my own bloatware

[blazing musk]

Sweet, glad that's sorted

[fringe mesa]

Waiting for my own steam decks. Ended up buying the one with at least the 256gb NVME. Heard a single report that trying to add one after not only voids the warranty, something prevented the installed NVME being seen. Sounds like a similar trick I once heard with the Nintendo DS user and kiosk version difference that stops the DS running off the battery.

IMHO, valve should have had places like Newegg and Amazon sell them. They lost a lot in sales because of that. If Newegg had sold the deck, people would have a much wider avenue for add-ons like memory cards, drives, docking systems, not to mention a much larger financing que to choose from. Steam may have only been able to stay caught up in sales because they are missing 70% of sales they could have had by using aAffirm, PayPal, Kiosk. Not everyone has a credit card, and many places

Have $400 daily caps on online Visa/MasterCard debit cards.

[upper quiver]

would they be capable of fulfilling that 70% in sales?

probably not

plus, i dont think they really advertised the steam deck through typical means

its not like an iphone

its target audience is on steam

if i wanted one the first place i would have gone is steam

[worn trail]

What gen 4 M.2 storage do you guys recommend? I don't need the fastest gen 4 but I do need at least 2tb.

Preferably not to expensive so under $200 from Amazon com.mx.

[fringe mesa]

That's why I said they have been able to keep up in filling sales. That handicap has helped them. If they had a better production, especially for Xmas, the Deck right now is a hot item like the Switch was. Once the demand dies down, it won't matter.

[upper quiver]

demand, within the context of target audience

its a "hot item" in context, its not a switch alternative

[fringe mesa]

Either Kingston Fury 2TB or the SK Hynix P41

[worn trail]

This question is just curiosity and probably a dumb question but is it possible to get something say like a 20tb Sata SSD and have it copy all the data from say 3 different M.2 SSDs?

[upper quiver]

you can move data between storage devices

thats not a problem

the real question is what you want with 20tb of ssd

[worn trail]

To store a lot of data.

Videos, apps, etc.

Just mass backup of storage.

[upper quiver]

thats what HDDs are for

[fringe mesa]

Do you play games like Minecraft, Terraria, Starbound or multiplayer titles where you run your own server?

[worn trail]

I mean for the SSD to copy the data of 3 different M.2 SSDs.

[worn trail]

Yes, though the SSD is just for storing my own files.

[upper quiver]

the ssd wont copy the data, the operating system will

[worn trail]

I have a dedicated server for Minecraft.

[worn trail]

Twhat about the Samsung 980 pro 2tb? It's $50 cheaper then the Kingston one and 200$ cheaper then the P41.

[minor sun]

What's the price?

P41 2tb was 170$ earlier

[worn trail]

$200.

[dense merlin]

also wb s70 and sn850x

[worn trail]

I need to order from Amazon.com.mx.

[fringe mesa]

Glad I asked. The two NVME have been going on sale at $160 and $180 towards Xmas. I highly recommend the two I listed because for hosting servers for the titles, write speed is as important read speed. The above titles constantly write, so getting an NVME with 5k read and 2.5k write, expect bottlenecking,, lag, and data loss. The above two I tested and no lag spikes, no bottle necking, and that's with 4 players who hoard a lot.

[upper quiver]

i cant even load that site

[worn trail]

This is for my personal rig, not a server.

[minor sun]

Check m480

[fringe mesa]

Apex, I asked if you hosted your own games. That is personal use 😉

[worn trail]

.

Sorry for the miscommunication.

Yeah this is for my own personal rig.

[fringe mesa]

Naa. It's fine. I blunder all the time lol.

[minor sun]

Anyways instead of 980 pro basically any e18 drive is nice and should be cheaper

[fringe mesa]

They tend to tell me things 4 times before it sinks in lol.

[worn trail]

I need to go but if you guys could ping me with a list of the drives you'd recommend I will see which is cheapest for me once I am back.

Thanks a lot in advance!

[minor sun]

Anything with e18 or ig5236 from here basically
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1B27_j9NDPU3cNlj2HKcrfpJKHkOf-Oi1DbuuQva2gT4/edit?usp=drivesdk

[fringe mesa]

Apex, PayPal, Affirm, and a few others are accepting more applications over the holidays. Might want to try one of them if you are limited in $$.

Xmas time I use them so my cards aren't affected. This way when places like Amazon charge for entire sale and only ship one item out, I know I can quickly buy elsewhere if needed.

Newegg has never done that to me, so I use Newegg for most of my purchases. Heck, my entire 3 builds I did came from Newegg because they ship what they charge for. Only computer hard ware Amazon got from me was the NVME I just purchased 3 of. Who can't resist Hynix P41 at $160 each lol.

@upper quiver Been meaning to ask, how come your group doesn't update your 😦 into a :). Or am I missing it's meaning.

Ahh, just realized it's a tech tag.

I still think 🙂 looks better.

Gawd I need coffee ☕!! Brains slower than normal this morning. Me that is.

[minor sun]

I prefer :) to the emoji because it looks nicer, it's a setting

[fringe mesa]

I actually wasn't using the emoji. Discord did that after I hit send. I typed a sideways smile.

Come to think of it, you did tell me it was a setting the first day I joined. I can remember that, yet CPU coolers lol

.
Anyways, wondering if I'm just looking up the wrong term. Is there such a thing as an adapter that can plug into a microSD slot, and change it to USB C?

Steam deck has a USB, but using it for a drive of any type is a pain each time one boots up. I figure if I can plug in some type of adapter into the microSD card slot, I can use a P41 nvme externally instead.

Did a search, and it brings up thousand's of microSD to USB listed adapters, but look closely, they are actually USB C to microSD.

[upper quiver]

text emoticons are the best

[fringe mesa]

OMG 😱 I been a technician since the early 1980s, long before BSOD, and feel absolutely stupid, that I of all people, never picked the above sad face. Kind of Ironic how Microsofts BSOD looks so much like Amigas old GURU errors.

I got to see that screen often with the Aorus Master Z390. Funny how I never found the root cause when installing Windows, until I built the Z690 and found out it was the Sabrient Rocket NVME at fault

[minor sun]

Yes, that's a setting that you can change to make it just be text still

[fringe mesa]

On Android Discord?

[minor sun]

any

[fringe mesa]

My Z690 is filling half my 2TB downloading most of my latest ISOs from Microsoft. Despite technet closed, found out I am still able to get updates for a lot of my programs.

Sadly, Frontpage isn't one of them 😦

The p41 feels like the same speed as my Kingston fury. Had to limit my downloads though. My wife was getting miffed with me lagging the network 😂.

Messing with her Second Life is like trying to take back a steak from a hungry lion.

[formal tusk]

Well yeah cos you'll be limited by the network speed

Unless you had like, 40gbit LAN (you can't) you won't know which is faster

What makes the P41 quicker is in iops

It does random iops so fast

[fringe mesa]

What's the best utility to test read write speeds of an NVME. Two I tried gave different data, so figure there must be a more reliable one people rely on.

[formal tusk]

Crystaldiskmark is an easy tool for it

Performance between the two though will be very similar

I think passmark also has a benchmark

3dmark has a game loading benchmark, you might see the P41 do better there (samples may also vary)

[fringe mesa]

One utility came with the Z390, which I used on the Z690. Not sure why they didn't include it with the new appcenter.

[formal tusk]

I'm surprised anyone even uses half the stuff in app center

Fusion is a necessity, the bios update utility is nice, maybe the afterburner style gpu tuner app

Other than that the rest I've never even found myself curious about it

Afterburner is easier and better

Bios updates I do manually

• shrug *

[fringe mesa]

I have a connection that's a little faster than a T1. When I used a Torrent application, realized long ago, limiting the uploading stopped the lag on my homes connection. Since uploading is capped, I think the bandwidth was slowed because all the error checking got slowed down.

[formal tusk]

I'll give gigabyte the credit tho, it doesn't hang around in the background as some resource hog that other boards do like Asus and armoury crate

[formal tusk]

Again you'd need 40gbit, or more specifically like actually 60gbit, to pass the full read write rates of a full gen 4 ssd

Which doesn't exist in a typical desktop consumer device

You could do it with a bunch of network links in tandem over a home network

[fringe mesa]

When it comes to RGB controll, something causes a conflict after the systems been up where the CUE RGB controller, can no longer control the ram RGB for my Dominator ram. When I get a chance to sit down, going to look into that.

[formal tusk]

Well yeah cos you have a gigabyte board

Gigabyte wants to control it

So they'll fight then the link breaks

I tend to avoid icue these days, it's getting more and more excessive

[fringe mesa]

Fusion never picks up on the ram. That's why I use CUE.

[formal tusk]

Well every 10th time it will pick it up

I can promise you that

That's your conflict of rgb control lol

That's just what rgb fusion does

[fringe mesa]

I see that with my kids I7 Z690, but so far have yet to see it with my I9.

[formal tusk]

CPU wouldn't make a scratch of a difference

They're gigabyte boards, typical fusion behaviour

Lol

You can google "rgb fusion ram problems" and find hundreds of reddit posts that'll likely show the same problem

They haven't addressed it for years

[fringe mesa]

I know, but figure I point it out anyways. I never once seen ram show up in the fusion utility. That old Z390 RGB fan I cut out a few weeks back, that showed up in fusion first boot up, then never did again, and the rainbow colors started giving me a headache, hence why I cut the blasted thing out. Worst budget cooler ever.

[formal tusk]

If you uninstall fusion completely from the system there's a good chance the icue will pick up the ram more consistently

Icue btw also has problems picking up ram in general but it should be slightly better

[fringe mesa]

Is there something better than fusion for the rest of the board, with better color and effect options?

[formal tusk]

Uh, maybe signal rgb?

Openrgb was rubbish with my gigabyte board, caused flickering and stuff

Signal rgb I never tried

[fringe mesa]

CUE doesn't fully load until you actually log in, which annoys my wife to the extreme. Every time windows 11 reboots for updates, the ram RGB turns back on, and the flashing colors wake me wife up. One thing in my lifetime I never want to do, is wake her up from a dead sleep. The results can be, let's say painful to ones ears.....

I'll check over the weekend. I like the RGB effects during the day. But 2am, it gets old fast.

2am Windows updates, turn my bedroom into close encounters of the 3rd kind, mixed with powers from the force should my wife be awakened. Heck, her keyboards taken flight a few times 😉 I got to find the picture, with her $200 RGB keyboard back in 2020, sticking out of the wall. Costed me $120, paint, plasterboard, and some supplies heh.

She fell asleep using the large screen TV as monitor. System rebooted and she tossed it not even that hard. Sank right into the wall like a Chinese star. Was impressed.

Shoot, shouldn't I be talking about this in #peripherals-and-displays ?

Switching over to #building-and-recc-chat .

[formal tusk]

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/265189623044

AUD

[dawn sand]

@blazing musk do I buy 8TB drive

[blazing musk]

Why tho

[dawn sand]

For games

But is price good ?

[blazing musk]

That's an external drive

[dawn sand]

Oh

I could get 4TB western has it for $119 on there website

[dawn sand]

I mean could I plug it into my pc

[blazing musk]

You can get an 8TB drive for $120

[dawn sand]

Bruh

Okay I'll skip and just continue grocery shopping

[brisk dome]

In my experience Wd_black hard drives are just a last ditch attempt to get gamers to buy HDDs, and pay a premium as well

[dawn sand]

@blazing musk pov: you spent $180 on 4TB hard drive from best buy

[dawn sand]

Well ig any drive good if it's 7200RPM

[dense merlin]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Z86BD3/western-digital-wdbsla0040hnc-nrsn-4-tb-35-7200-rpm-internal-hard-drive-wdbsla0040hnc-nrsn

[dawn sand]

Oops

[blazing musk]

Transfer successful. Cloning my SSD to the new drive was easy enough with clonezilla, didn't even have to reinstall the bootloader.

[dawn sand]

What you doing

[blazing musk]

I got a new MP33 so I could give my old EX920 to my brother in law

He's still on sata

[dawn sand]

Oh

[blazing musk]

So I had to copy my Windows install to the new drive, which is easy if you know Linux

[dawn sand]

Yea

[fringe mesa]

Are high end Micro SD cards getting used for mining now? Been noticing the prices climbing on these lately. Same extreme 512gb ones I got for $35 back in September, are like $60 average now.

[dense merlin]

no.

[sour wadi]

you sure its just not that one model thats gone up in price?

[fringe mesa]

It's mostly the ones that are above 256gb that are going up. The 32 and 64 are actually lower.

Most likely, the holiday rush and people buying the larger ones for the Switch and Steam Deck?

The good 512gb cards, ones that are rated 160-190 Mbps are averaging $130 to $160+. Makes me wish I had ordered a few months back, but didn't have any use till I ordered a few Steam Decks.

Heck, I purchased 3 sky Hynix p41s at $160, without even thinking to read the specifics of the deck. I'll put them to use on the new systems I built. Having to repeat the steps every time to use them on the deck, I'm just too lazy lol.

My plan was to use the USB C port and an external enclosure. Problem is, you got to mount them every time you power on. Hence why I'm pricing the micro SD.

No such puppy as a microSD to USB adapter.

[dawn sand]

I got perfect idea

ill buy 3 SSDs and put an OS on each

windows, linux, macOS

my mobo has 4 ssds slots

[turbid crater]

@dawn sand can u switch between os easily or do u need to change the boot order for the ssd for that?

[dawn sand]

Lol idk haha

[turbid crater]

i only know windows

[manic dagger]

does RAID0 for 2 NVMEs decreased load time much? seen mixed online

[kind sierra]

Not really

[left briar]

Greetings! I’m upgrading the ssd in a mid 2015 MacBook Pro retina 15”. I’m look for an enclosure that will receive the proprietary connection of the ssd I removed from it. Any suggestions?

[brisk dome]

If you can remove it, doubt it's proprietary. Most likely a PCIE connection

[blazing musk]

No it really is proprietary

2015 was before they used proper M.2

[blazing musk]

https://www.ifixit.com/products/external-ssd-enclosure-for-select-mid-2013-to-mid-2015-macs

[brisk dome]

Apple never ceases to amaze me

[tribal jackal]

So the one you showed me would fit in my motherboard as a second storage device ASUS Prime B560M

[blazing musk]

That enclosure would have the old drive inside, and it would be outside the laptop plugged into usb

Oh had to search for our old convo, you were talking about the SN570 or MP33 and yes you have 2 M.2 slots so you can add it as a second drive

[dawn sand]

What's the difference between this and 980

[minor sun]

actually competitive gen 4 drive

except it's still overpriced because samsung

[dawn sand]

This is from 3rd larty

309 from newegg

[dawn sand]

Is 980 nor gen 4?

Not

[minor sun]

which 980

980 is gen 3

980 pro is gen 4

[dawn sand]

Gen 4

[minor sun]

yes

[dawn sand]

Gunna get this to fill my first slot mobo with a 4 gen drive and get another hard drive for games

Is it bad to put games on your boot ssd

[minor sun]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B093DP3X4H
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09T2WNKNZ

[dawn sand]

This looks funny

[sour wadi]

Nope

[dawn sand]

Okay

[red jay]

suggestions for wiping drives when selling to someone?

something that will repeatedly write fake data maybe

Nevermind, found something named "DiskWipe"

[dawn sand]

Can't you just reformat

[red jay]

Bruh

Wouldn't they still be able to find traces of my data though

Im doing 5 passes of random data

should be enough

[dawn sand]

I don't think so

[red jay]

then why do data recovery services exist 💀

[dawn sand]

That's for a hard drive or ssd that have data on it duh

It's data on the storage device but no way to access it bc the pc can't read it

[red jay]

theres still sectors that have data on it tho

Some of my drives have different parts of it that were used by macos and linux

so theres a bunch of random files that arent the same partition

[dawn sand]

There'd 4 pins on hard drive that data can be accessed and transfer if the pc can't boot it I feel like that's a failsafe so people don't automatically lose all there data

[brisk dome]

Formatted drives can still sometimes have data recovered off of them

[brisk dome]

This is the best way to go about it

idk if you need 5, might depend on the value of the content sof the drive

[tribal jackal]

So the one you showed me would fit in my motherboard as a second storage device ASUS Prime B560M
@blazing musk

[kind sierra]

Yes, usually very easily

I've done data recovery from formatted drives in a matter of minutes

[red jay]

Oh well

they can have my ark saves

[kind sierra]

That's for reformatting. A couple passes with something like bleach bit or disk wipe will make it so you need a forensics lab to recover the data

Doesn't really even need to be random data on each pass for consumer drives, toggling a couple times between ones and zeros will do well enough

[red jay]

Oh haha

Not sure why there’s a 40 pass option on this program then

💀

[kind sierra]

For enterprise stuff

Consumer data you're probably not going to be targeted for data recovery shenanigans in the first place, and like you said with the ark saves the data isn't usually that valuable. Enterprise drives on the other hand have been known to be the target of dumpster diving for corporate espionage or similar shenanigans

For sensitive enough data they'll even destroy old drives in a giant industrial shredder

[restive karma]

My hdd making 2 beep noise, and not detected in windows

[real lava]

HDDs doesn't beep

What you hear is probably dead drive

Or the pc beeping

[restive karma]

its my hdd,

my hdd run on20% usage before, and i shutdown with windows, after min i turn on and 2 beep noise appear

[real lava]

Um, that's more likely the pc beeping I would say

HDDs has no speakers or anything to beep

[restive karma]

But when unplug sata and power cable no beep

Ihave 3hdd 1ssd

2hdd fine and the ssd

But this 1tera hdd maybe fail

[dawn sand]

Bleep bloop

[cyan needle]

Yeah he was hearing it tick.

[hazy prawn]

My External HDD failed yesterday. Beep Beep Beep. I love my External image backup! I am looking for a replacement. Any New Egg Sales on 10 TB and above?

[kind sierra]

Are you looking for just the drive or a full external setup with the drive holder and everything

[hazy prawn]

I am looking for External USB hard drive 10 - 14 TB Not an internal drive with a toaster.

[turbid crater]

are m2 screws different between motherboards?

[tight galleon]

helloo

i transfer game from steam to portable samsung T5

i transfer game from steam to portable samsung T5 i lunch the game and play and crash

why ??

[sour wadi]

Did you transfer the game through the steam client for it?

[tight galleon]

yes
settings - downloads - steam library folders

@sour wadi

[sour wadi]

Try repairing/ reinstalling it probably got corrupted

[tight galleon]

ok thx :)

[tender phoenix]

i have single samsung 980 pro 2 tb
every time i right click on a file to unzip or unrar a file, winrar freezes about 10 secs
why

[cyan needle]

Do you have more information?

[tender phoenix]

It has never crashed or frozen in the game

just 2 to 3 times system freezed and after bios updates, Everything was fixed

rog x570e

ram g.skill trident royal 3200mz 16 x 2

power asus rog 850-g

most of my components are asus

power mode on windows and samsung magician are both standard

[cyan needle]

It only freezes with winrar?

[tender phoenix]

only freezes when i click on open a window like: open a video file from video player (when i click open) and right click on an archive file to extract it

weird right!?

looks like a windows issue rather than HW

I am a novice in the field of hardware because I am not a seller

[tender phoenix]

https://pbs-prod.linustechtips.com/monthly_2022_01/SSD.png.44030977f55481b4cc26988e3f482c6f.png

[cyan needle]

!bat

[small steppe]

Link to a general windows fixes and scans by Risen
https://github.com/Ryzen5950XT/Windows-stuff/releases/download/Windows-utilities-and-fixes-batch-file/Win.Utils.Fixes.Latest.launcher.bat

[cyan needle]

@tender phoenix try this out. Run the chkdsk and sfc

[tender phoenix]

C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Volume label is Samsung.

WARNING! /F parameter not specified.
Running CHKDSK in read-only mode.

Stage 1: Examining basic file system structure ...
1321728 file records processed.
File verification completed.
Phase duration (File record verification): 5.41 seconds.
12828 large file records processed.
Phase duration (Orphan file record recovery): 0.00 milliseconds.
0 bad file records processed.
Phase duration (Bad file record checking): 0.22 milliseconds.

Stage 2: Examining file name linkage ...
557 reparse records processed.
1681532 index entries processed.
Index verification completed.
Phase duration (Index verification): 10.06 seconds.
0 unindexed files scanned.
Phase duration (Orphan reconnection): 1.86 seconds.
0 unindexed files recovered to lost and found.
Phase duration (Orphan recovery to lost and found): 0.17 milliseconds.
557 reparse records processed.
Phase duration (Reparse point and Object ID verification): 4.11 milliseconds.

Stage 3: Examining security descriptors ...
Security descriptor verification completed.
Phase duration (Security descriptor verification): 37.43 milliseconds.
179903 data files processed.
Phase duration (Data attribute verification): 0.19 milliseconds.
CHKDSK is verifying Usn Journal...
33766456 USN bytes processed.
Usn Journal verification completed.
Phase duration (USN journal verification): 51.18 milliseconds.

Windows has scanned the file system and found no problems.
No further action is required.

1952872502 KB total disk space.
1107546664 KB in 751430 files.
484288 KB in 179904 indexes.
0 KB in bad sectors.
1487790 KB in use by the system.
65536 KB occupied by the log file.
843353760 KB available on disk.

  4096 bytes in each allocation unit.

488218125 total allocation units on disk.
210838440 allocation units available on disk.
Total duration: 17.44 seconds (17449 ms).

[tender phoenix]

https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Monitors-and-Memory/980-Pro-WIndows-10-lock-ups/td-p/1817633

[cyan needle]

What you are experiencing is not in this article.

I don't know that for sure it's your SSD.. It could be, but it could be something else entirely.

[cyan needle]

Did you run the sfc?

[tender phoenix]

yes but what command to select

/SCANNOW Scans integrity of all protected system files and repairs files with
problems when possible.
/VERIFYONLY Scans integrity of all protected system files. No repair operation is
performed.
/SCANFILE Scans integrity of the referenced file, repairs file if problems are
identified. Specify full path <file>
/VERIFYFILE Verifies the integrity of the file with full path <file>. No repair
operation is performed.
/OFFBOOTDIR For offline repair, specify the location of the offline boot directory
/OFFWINDIR For offline repair, specify the location of the offline windows directory
/OFFLOGFILE For offline repair, optionally enable logging by specifying a log file path

e.g.

    sfc /SCANNOW
    sfc /VERIFYFILE=c:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll
    sfc /SCANFILE=d:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll /OFFBOOTDIR=d:\ /OFFWINDIR=d:\windows
    sfc /SCANFILE=d:\windows\system32\kernel32.dll /OFFBOOTDIR=d:\ /OFFWINDIR=d:\windows /OFFLOGFILE=c:\log.txt
    sfc /VERIFYONLY

[cyan needle]

Run the first one. [1] SFC AND DISM

You'll want to do /SCANNOW

[tender phoenix]

C:\Windows\system32> sfc /SCANNOW

Beginning system scan. This process will take some time.

Beginning verification phase of system scan.
Verification 100% complete.

Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.

C:\Windows\system32>

😐

[cyan needle]

I'm gonna have to take a back seat on this one. I have no idea what is going on. Hopefully Mr. 1111 or Fal'cie will be here to help soon.

[tender phoenix]

The only manipulation I did to the hardware was to overclock the ram to 3200mz.

Thank you for all your hard work.

[cyan needle]

How did you overclock it?

With XMP?

[tender phoenix]

yes something similar to that: doc...

i cant remember the name of the xmp of amd

[tender phoenix]

can i over it to 4200?

🙂

[cyan needle]

take off that overclock and see if the freezing stops

[tender phoenix]

but... you know.!

ok

ill do that

[tender phoenix]

also the nvidia rbar is enabled

[dawn sand]

what happening

[tender phoenix]

Not only did it not get better, it got worse

[minor sun]

Asus calls it docp, everyone else calls it xmp, just reset bios settings in general to start

Wait

[minor sun]

Try just using 7zip

Winrar is funky

[small steppe]

PopeyeArmz#4092 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

PopeyeArmz#4092 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[worn trail]

Out of curiosity, what are the best 4tb gen 4 M.2 drives?

[tender phoenix]

samsung, second: western digital (aka sandisk)

[minor sun]

XS70, MP600 pro xt, A95, KC3000, Rocket 4 plus, 990 Pro, SN850X

[sour wadi]

[tender phoenix]

flagships, sk-hynix for budgets

[sour wadi]

No they're brands not models

And that's just wrong

They almost all make very low tier drives and some of the best drives

[minor sun]

Also, Hynix P41 is one of the best drives rn?

[dense merlin]

Yes

Sn850x is just as good though

And normally cheaper

[sour wadi]

So is p31 i honestly don't even think hynix have budget drives (if you exclude soligrim but that's a different name so)

[open gazelle]

Samsung 990 Pro might could be best drive. Very new. Can't look at data rn tho so who knows.

[indigo condor]

What is the best price for storage right now with NVME… looking for most storage with fastest speeds at good price

[sour wadi]

What capacity and country?

[indigo condor]

At least 1 TB and US

I was looking at 980 pro but is there something more worth it

Its at $100 right now

[sour wadi]

For 1tb, I'd get team mp33 for 2tb I'd get kingston nv2

980 pro is terribly priced

[indigo condor]

What for if i ask

Why is that

[sour wadi]

Bec for 20$ more you get a 2tb drive (nv2) that has faster random (what you'll experience day to day) and still pretty good sequential read and write values

[indigo condor]

Does the 3500MBps vs the 7000MBps actually show a big difference? In loading?

[dense merlin]

not in games

at all

[indigo condor]

So kingston nv2 is probably my best bet?

[dense merlin]

if you're just gaming, pretty much

xs70 would be your best bet if you're doing other stuff as well

as it's all around better than the 980 pro

and cheaper

[indigo condor]

So 980 pro is just expensive because its samsung? Lol

[dense merlin]

pretty much

[indigo condor]

Alright I appreciate the help good to know i could get a 2 TB now instead of a 1

The kingston one will be compatible with an msi z690 pro-a ddr4 right?

[sour wadi]

Ye

[indigo condor]

Alright thank you

Okay so should i still go with the kingston or the crucial p3 plus 2TB for $124

Theres also the P5 plus 2TB for $150

[tender phoenix]

what do you think about this: https://www.eha.digital/awards/eha-reader-awards-2022-winners-announced/

https://www.eha.digital/awards/european-hardware-awards-2022-winners-announced/

[minor sun]

Because that's practically just an opinion poll? Here's some data
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sk-hynix-platinum-p41-ssd-review

[tender phoenix]

what about this: https://www.eha.digital/awards/european-hardware-awards-2022-winners-announced/

With over 100 of the world’s leading technology journalists voting for their favourite products of the year!

[minor sun]

Again, opinion poll, it's asking people what they liked, nowhere does it says these are the best performers, and it definitely doesn't say that's the only products around

[minor sun]

This is like saying something is good because it's an Amazon bestseller, no data to back it up, the only thing is popularity

[tender phoenix]

they are right: arctic freezer is the editors choice of gamers nexus, 980 pro is the best in all countries and list goes on

https://us.testseek.com/computers/harddrives/ssd/samsung-m.2-980-pro-series-nvme-pcie-p-05bb29dc-3676-4105-fb04-a333b5cdea0b.html

testseek is like metacritic, but not limited to software

[dense merlin]

Those are still opinions

Not performance

P41 sn850x xs70 and probably a few other ssds beat it

980 pro is the best selling in some places because of the Samsung name and marketing

[formal tusk]

Paying the extra for the 980 pro these days is paying hard into the mindshare when there's better options available

It's like specifically choosing a gold or platinum psu in your price range when gold and platinum are not measurements of quality, but efficiency

[minor sun]

Gamers Nexus has test data on liquid freezer ii from their review, there's no sign of any consideration of performance here

[minor sun]

In tbe first review there, you can see P41 beating 980 pro in most benchmarks

And a problem with review aggregation sites is that it includes wildly different testing methodology, from actually good reviews like from sth and say tpu/Tom's hardware, to random people that only run cdm and call it a day

Seq chart from Sth

[sour wadi]

980 pro hasn't been the best drive for over a year at least

[small carbon]

P31/p41 emote when?

[dawn sand]

990 best drive

[sour wadi]

Maybe

[sour wadi]

Feel free to make one

[dawn sand]

Sad it's expensive

[open gazelle]

Going over the stuff on there, their meaning of "best" changes throughout the polls (which isnt surprising when it's a random popularity poll). Best CPU/ATX-mobo are top end components with no regard to price. Best mATX mobo is suddenly a quality/$ option rather then pure top end option. Then Best ITX suddenly goes back to top end. Best RAM doesnt even state model, so who knows what memory IC they are trying to recommend (they arent. Meaning it's nether top end or best quality/$). Best GPU doesnt state whether it is 10GB or 12GB 3080 model, and both 3080s dont really fit as best in perf/$ or top end. Best AMD GPU is top end. Best Nvidia GPU isnt top end or best perf/$ (actually just a terrible option due to being 3080-10GB/12GB pricing while being a 3070). Best gaming monitor is top end monitor. Best air cooler isnt top end or best perf/$. Best custom cooling ignore GPU cooling and isnt top end (which also needs to be split out between CPU sockets as there are bests for each socket) or best perf/$ (in custom loop prices). Best case fan isnt top end or best perf/$.

List goes on. Basically that list is entirely BS. It's a random selection of popular items. It does not care about quality, quality/$, "ranking" (low/mid/high end), etc. So even if the option is correct in a certain category, who knows what that is unless you actually research it as the list mixes them all up.

[worn trail]

https://www.amazon.com.mx/Sabrent-Unidad-Interna-Rendimiento-SB-RKT4P-1TB/dp/B08VF99PV8/ref=sr_1_2?__mk_es_MX=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=250U3DHF1H805&keywords=Sabrent%2BRocket%2B4%2BPlus%2B2tb&qid=1671093710&sprefix=sabrent%2Brocket%2B4%2Bplus%2B2tb%2Caps%2C123&sr=8-2&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.66c34496-0d28-4d73-a0a1-97a8d87ec0b2&th=1

What in g0d's name am I witnessing....

1,000 USD for a 4tb drive.

Anyways, after sorting through the entire S-Tier drive listing, I've found that for my region at least this is the cheapest S-Tier 2tb drive.
https://www.amazon.com.mx/Kingston-KC3000-1024-2280-Lectura/dp/B09K7DRMSC/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_es_MX=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=1IKLA9XAWQ5XA&keywords=Kingston%2BKC3000%2B2tb&qid=1671093464&sprefix=kingston%2Bkc3000%2B2tb%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.66c34496-0d28-4d73-a0a1-97a8d87ec0b2&th=1

coming in at $214.50 us.

[dawn sand]

That's bc it's fast

[fringe mesa]

Been looking at the Canon 4000 series cameras and noticed they take normal size 64 and 128gb memory cards. Was wondering if the microSD cards with adapter work with cameras like this, or are they restricted to the normal size ones.

[turbid crater]

@fringe mesa i liked the hynix p41 2tb. I only use it for gaming but it did a lot faster than my old sata ssd

[blazing musk]

Yes adapters work perfectly fine for those. Most micro SD cards come with said adapter for a reason.

[fringe mesa]

Figured I double check because several places that sell these sets, seem to only show a 64 or 128gb normal size and noticed the only ones that go above, were microSD.

[fringe mesa]

Those Tiny SSDs can be a pain when assembling a new system. I didn't use them in my new build, but my son has one that is tucked away on top of his tower. It drove me nuts for an hour after we assembled his new system because after I installed Windows 11 on the NVME, system would boot into a copy of Windows 10, and I used the same install drive to install windows 11 on my machine, and at first thought I was messing up, then looked at the available drives to see if somehow it was picking up memory from the printer, which happened once, and saw a 250gb device, looked at the entire computer and checked every cable and verrified no SATA drives were connected, then followed the cases SATA cable and found the small SSD tucked in the top, and my son was like oops, so that's were I left it!

.
The camera is for my daughter, and I'm not familiar with memory cards.

Memory cards for cameras that is.

I try to avoid them in favor of NVME and external cases.

Six hours installing windows 11 off a thumb drive onto my wife's laptop, which failed due to kitty stepping on power button, so gave it a try with a Kingston fury NVME and was 3 minutes. Back in August, I mothballed all my thumb drives after that lol.

Ordered a dock with external power supply so I can use a 2tb NVME on my Steam Deck. Read up a few trial and errors by others.

I accidentally called it a Deck Switch, instead of Steam Deck, and now my family's irked at me because they to are calling it a Deck Switch every time they want to borrow mine.

[blazing musk]

The max that the 4000D knows how to read is 128gb, make sure to double check the camera specs before buying

[fringe mesa]

One must be careful with specifications Amazon lists. I noticed they tend to share Q&a and specification pages across several models. I found more accurate info off the manufactures website

[dense merlin]

this was the only sentence of this convo i read and was very confused how a case would read ram or storage

now i get it

[fringe mesa]

The worst camera I purchased 10 years ago, required you format the card on a PC first. Found out the hard way when I went to swap out a new SanDisk and camera kept giving errors. Read the manual, once I found the English part, and found out the camera can't format.

[cyan needle]

What do you mean mothballed your thumb drives? Like.. stuck thumb drives in a sandwich bag with mothballs?

[olive wadi]

damn bro thats crazy

[remote crystal]

so true mr shields

[fringe mesa]

Close. It just means I boxed them up and threw them into storage. When I switch to better equipment, I keep at least two, and either sell or recycle the rest. For example, a creative sound blaster cdr combo I mothballed 18 years ago, I just got out of storage because a music program my daughter needed, uses a CD with some kind of piracy write protection that today's drives can't read, so had to set it up or the program would lock up. Made me wonder if companies now a days still make software with write protection.

[loud wren]

anyone here familiar with setting up an NVME raid on an ASUS ROG Strix? I'm trying to get it working on my computer - the raid shows up in BIOS, but Windows sees two separate drives, each having a 2048 GB and 1678 partition, rather than one drive at 8 TB

[blazing musk]

Are you trying to do raid 0 or 1?

[loud wren]

raid 0

[loud wren]

I found I could configure the drives for gpt, but still not sure why the drives show up as two separate devices in Windows even though they are configured as 1 in BIOS

[blazing musk]

What steps did you take to create the array? It's possible they were put into two different arrays, you have to manually assign them.

[red jay]

Does this mean I should probably get a new hard drive?

It says caution and the reallocated sectors count section is yellow but I'm not sure if that means much

[minor sun]

Caution is just caution, there is wear but chance of failure should still be pretty low

[red jay]

okay thanks

[craggy solstice]

Hell yeah, got a faulty drive to detect

[minor sun]

Lol

[red jay]

Even my SSD is super slow

6.5 hours to install ark?

Are you kidding?

[small carbon]

Pretty sure even my mx500 would be less than 1/2 that time. Interesting

[red jay]

And my steam just crashed and my download progress reset

🤬

[red jay]

Exactly

The speeds on this ssd are supposedly not bad either

😭

I think its the intel 670p

[small carbon]

Ah that DL time is never close, ignore it. I will say something was wrong w/ my sn550 (I think). Every 5-6GB of a steam install it would need a pause for a min or 2 to clear the cache or w/e. Didn't use it long.

[red jay]

Its actually slower than what it was on track to finish by 💀

I let it run for about 3 hours and after i did the math it was looking like 6.5 hours

[small carbon]

This sort of stuff is part of why I don't mind the P41 premium, lol. Might end up w/ P31 also just for kicks. Would be neat to have both. Although I only put 1 game on the P41 before I sold my 1080 a month or so ago & been kinda busy.

[red jay]

Yeah I'm thinking about getting p31 1tb

pcmag.com claims this

[blazing musk]

Their claim is accurate

[red jay]

Yeah it sure sets records

Real damn slow ones

[blazing musk]

There's something else going on if it's slow

[red jay]

Windows moment

[blazing musk]

Antivirus disable?

[red jay]

I dont even have antivirus

[blazing musk]

Yes you do, Defender

[red jay]

This is a fresh install from about 2 weeks ago

[red jay]

Do i have to do any weird workarounds to completely silence it or can i just turn it off somehow

[red jay]

so just turn those off? no registry editing required

[blazing musk]

Yep. Even just the realtime protection so it's not constantly scanning files

They made it easier since early 10 days

[red jay]

I'll turn everything off just to test my installation

You know what that might have done the trick

Average response time is 1-3 ms and its at 50-60MB/s usage on my disk

thanks again fal

[blazing musk]

Sometimes I know what I'm talking about lol

[red jay]

I feel like you usually do like 99% of the time in this channel

and the windows one too 😂

[blazing musk]

Windows channel advice stems from 2 sources coming from me:
I've broken Windows so many times, so many ways, that I know innately how to fix it.
Google.

[open gazelle]

Never had RT Protection stay off for longer then like 1hr

[blazing musk]

Yeah it'll want to turn back on but it'll do for now

[small carbon]

Note my sn550 wasn't even an OS drive, but was in an adapter so perhaps that meant no hmb or w/e & otherwise better. For that 5-6GB at a time still was around 2x faster than mx500, but mx500 never throttled.

[blazing musk]

There's always gpedit

[open gazelle]

@olive wadi Does HMB work if an HMB based NVMe is in a USB enclosure?
edit: Would still like to know above, but main question is now "Does HMB work if an HMB based NVMe is in a standard sized PCIe x16 to M2 x4 adapter and if said M2 wasnt an OS drive?". Guessing former wont affect it but latter might, but what do I know?
Adapter in question: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0876MLNY6

[open gazelle]

Well we'll maybe find out soon™️
I would like to know HMB secrets too. My guess is that it's either always "no", or "depends on USB enclosure".

[blazing musk]

My guess is also "it depends" based on how the adapter interfaces with the system

[open gazelle]

Would be good to state adapter if Windshields ever comes on to answer and looks into it.

[small carbon]

Oh was pcie adapter. I agree on usb enclosures probably varying. Sometimes hear to use dram ssds in em, but most enclosures also limit to 1200MB/s give or take.

[open gazelle]

Like standard size PCIe x4 - x16 to M2 x4 adapter?

[small carbon]

Found it.

[open gazelle]

I highly doubt that kind of adapter will cause an issue with HMB, as it should be a PCIe protocol thing. Dont see how that adapter will cause issues with a PCIe protocol. But Im no SSD expert so I dont want to say that with certainty, even tho Im mostly sure on it.
That said, idk about HMB working on non-OS based drives.

[blazing musk]

Functionally speaking there's no difference between that adapter and a standard M.2 slot

[small carbon]

Right. 1) not os. 2) z77 mobo, lol. No big deal. Perhaps when it's installed in either pc again I'll put a handful of old/small games on it or such. Oh, also was post nerf model but idk. Could've even been 3550/3770 holding it back a bit.

[formal tusk]

Those adapters are kinda just plug and play

I've used a couple different ones

[kind sierra]

For the USB part, my guess would be no. Main reason being that they show up as /dev/sdX instead of an nvme device to the Linux kernel

If it was a thunderbolt adapter w/ pcie it might be possible though

[blazing musk]

Assuming that the platform is new enough you can boot off the adapter, but any OS from 7 and up should know how to handle it as secondary storage even if it is older than AMD FX.

[small carbon]

Oh, TH says 7-7.5GB slc cache so that sort of checks out. Later I'll sure slap it into a secondary m.2 slot & see of any changes.

[pastel silo]

I always thought samsung m2s were super fast, then I saw western digital speeds. Way faster and cheaper

Win win

[sour wadi]

It highly depends on the model not the brand just like most things

[runic quest]

Looking for suggestions on a SATA Controller. Currently have 4 HDD and 2 SSDs, and i'm looking to add more without sacrificing read/write speeds.

[blazing musk]

https://a.co/d/7pW6tgY

There's plenty of other options, just look for PCIe sata expansion cards

[runic quest]

are there no downsides to its size/brand? bigger board = more stable/faster?

[blazing musk]

Nope. Only downside I can see is if you need it to be raid compatible that won't work.

Bigger doesn't mean better.

[runic quest]

What's the difference to this: https://www.startech.com/en-us/cards-adapters/8p6g-pcie-sata-card

[blazing musk]

That's a SAS card, not SATA

SAS technically works with SATA but it's intended for different drives

[runic quest]

gotcha. I just wanna add/organize my HDDs, 1 WDBlue 4tb, 1 WDGreen 3tb + 3 others. Then I have 2 SSDs atm, and 2 NVMe m.2.

without losing speed to any of them.

[blazing musk]

There's always this
https://a.co/d/2hJYjc6

[runic quest]

jesus... Just with all those THICC cables, i'm gonna have to upgrade my SLI 1070s to make space. lol

[trim cloak]

ong what’s an ssd

[trim cloak]

forgot i had that

[minor sun]

lol

[remote crystal]

who is stoRAGE and how mentally stable are they

[minor sun]

The fog is coming

[indigo condor]

This ssd is back ordered and i ordered it a couple days ago will it ever ship or should i find a better one for around the same price.. i got a $40 giftcard for newegg plus the discount.. so it was $118 in total.

Crucial P5 Plus M.2 2280 2TB PCI-Express 4.0 x4 NVMe 3D NAND

[blazing musk]

No one here can tell you when it'll ship. You can try asking @teal sequoia but I doubt they can do more than an estimate, since Newegg only knows when things are supposed to be shipped to the warehouses and they don't always ship on time.

[indigo condor]

Well yeah i get that.. im not sure how backorders typically work

Ill ask them too

[turbid crater]

i ordered 5600 cpu on backorder arrive within a week or under

[indigo condor]

Awesome hopefully thats the case with me.. its hard for me to keep the money in my account and not go broke lol its a big chunk and i dont want it to take out and im like oh my god i spent too much now i have $50 in my account 😂😂 itll be different if it charged me already

[turbid crater]

i did a few months of overtime to pay for new pc build. around 1500usd to build a 4k pc build

[indigo condor]

Jeez.. least its futureproof for a while!!

[turbid crater]

im not getting the new 40 series /7000 series gpus im getting a 6800xt i cant afford to spend +1500 on a gpu

[indigo condor]

Man i feel that.. i have a 3070 and i dont think ill upgrade for a while.. 1500 I could buy a whole nother pc that runs everything at 1440p

[turbid crater]

i didnt put in a 4k monitor since i already own it for over a year

[indigo condor]

True.. true

[turbid crater]

i went from i5-4670k to 5600 ddr3 ram to 3600 dr4 ram and rx560 2gb to 6800xt

[indigo condor]

Thats a massive upgrade i went from i5 6600k to a 12600k and a 5600xt to a 3070 the cpu was my biggest upgrade

[turbid crater]

i probably got a 500-900% increase in perf

[indigo condor]

Ahhh i just got a text that my shipment is preparing THEYRE BACK IN STOCK!! thank god

[indigo condor]

I could imagine, gpus are expensive and if you futureproof youre good.. i get around 100 fps all high settings on MW2 not sure if it should be more lol

[turbid crater]

my new 6800xt would get better frames than u in basic perf since 6800xt is compareable to 3080.

[indigo condor]

It was $375 for mine so i wasn’t complaining lol