old-monitors-and-tv

[knotty pilot]

pls help

[wary wave]

its 1440p 170hz ips panel, it has pretty good color accuracy all at a pretty decently low price for what it is

[knotty pilot]

ok

what is the lowest price it has ever gotten

also is there better ones coming in 2022?

like better monitors

[wary wave]

lowest its been was $260 before tax, but it was only once. drops down to $280 sometimes.

no monitors that i know of right now, just have to wait

[knotty pilot]

alr

ig ill just wait for now ig

my price is 299.99 before tax and shipping

what is KVM switch btw

what does it do

[wary wave]

pretty much you can plug in your keyboard and mouse into it instead of your pc. its useful for if youre using multiple systems.

[knotty pilot]

k

does a usb hub work

cuz im planning to hook my custom keeb onto this

and make the cable look center

[wary wave]

havent tried but should work

[knotty pilot]

k thx

what is a good desk

a desk i can mount two spring arms on

one for my mic

and one for iphone camera

• have room for a 35.5x16.5 inch deskmat

with room to spare on the sides

and room in the back to fit a monitor

[wary wave]

just something from ikea, just have to look for something thats a good size that fits your needs. if you want something better, then you could just build one

[knotty pilot]

hm k

can i send u a pic in dm

of my desk

to show u my current situation

[wary wave]

sure

[old arch]

Who would have 2+ rigs with only 1 display? Certainly not me soon.

[errant edge]

@quartz sandal lmao

called it

[knotty pilot]

Wut

[quartz sandal]

Lol

[quartz sandal]

Fake sale, they upped price to mark down

[errant edge]

isnt msrp 299?

[misty gyro]

Originally, $330. But it's been $300 for months.

Even at $330 it was a good deal, compared to others at least

But now there's a little more competition close to that price

[knotty pilot]

Thx for telling me

[wary wave]

my friend who has a gaming desktop and a macbook which he produces music on

[old arch]

Hmm, macbook screen used for the pc?

[brittle bolt]

1080p, 1920x1080
or
1080i, 1920x1080(native)

[wary wave]

first, assuming youre in the nvidia control panel or whatever amd uses

that second one doesnt go to highest refresh of your monitor im pretty sure

[quartz sandal]

i is interlaced, any resolution that says i instead of p at the end sucks

[brittle bolt]

up to 30hz

i have 60hz tv

one more thing

gpu or display?

[wary wave]

believe i have mine set to gpu

[brittle bolt]

set on gpu

i need a new monitor, this one has huge pixels, can barely read small text

[quartz sandal]

this is mine for refrence

afaik gpu scaling causes more latency

[brittle bolt]

even if display is bad?

1440p 265hz, fancy

[quartz sandal]

what ive heard

[wary wave]

dont believe it does and if it does, then its really minor

[brittle bolt]

are samsung syncmaster good? buying used

[wary wave]

for just normal web browsing and internet use i guess its alright

for gaming, probably not

[brittle bolt]

i cant afford 120hz

anything thats better than this TV

[wary wave]

whats your budget? cause theres some pretty decent monitors around the $100~$150 mark anything less then ye youd probably have to save a bit or hope that someone is selling a gaming monitor for somewhat cheap

[brittle bolt]

under 30 euro, looking to buy used

1080p 60hz

either hdmi or RGB

is RGB better than hdmi?

[wary wave]

30 euro def harder to work with

[brittle bolt]

again, used

the syncmasters seem to be ok, not too bad reaction time

[wary wave]

should be fine then until you can save up for something better down the line

[brittle bolt]

definitely 120-144hz if so

[brittle bolt]

is it?

[wary wave]

unless theres a connection over there in europe that i dont know of, rgb tends to refer to lights when it comes to the pc world

[old arch]

Rgb is usually literally means "red, green, blue" referring how rgb "stuff" can do various colors.

[brittle bolt]

the connector

forgot the name

vga?

[wary wave]

vga looks like this

[brittle bolt]

right one

[wary wave]

dvi

[brittle bolt]

wait lemme look on my card

[brittle bolt]

far right one

[wary wave]

ye

hdmi is better

[brittle bolt]

guess ill stick with hdmi

[old arch]

I prefer dvi, but partly to use up a dvi cable & I don't need sound over the cable anyways. 😅

[brittle bolt]

idk

why do u have a worse CPU than I have, but a better GPU?

[old arch]

GPU has usually been more important, but cpu upgrade is on route

[brittle bolt]

i7 2600 is far better than i5 3550

[old arch]

Nope. Close enough in games (especially with the "OC")

[raw ingot]

far better?

that ain't true

[fading wyvern]

Far better is a bit of a stretch

[celest lichen]

Hey if anyone has a solution to this problem it would be greatly appreciated, I got an acer monitor a few years ago and over the past few months the bottom of the monitor has begun to die. I realized that the panel wasn’t exactly dying it was occurring because of the refresh rate, on 75hz which is the monitors lowest the issue is basically non existent however I typically use the monitor on 144hz which is it’s second of 3 settings and on 144hz the bottom inch or so of the screen is completely bugged and unusable. I thought it might be a power issue cuz I was using a power block but that didn’t seem to make a difference and I also tried a different display port. I’m not sure if it’s my gpu (which is a 3060ti) or if it’s the monitor itself. If anyone has any suggestions or ideas please let me know, trying to avoid buying a new monitor 😦

[fading wyvern]

I hate to say it but it sounds like your monitor can no longer run at 144hz, you can always try to contact Acer and see if they are able to do anything about it.

2 years isn’t that long in the world of monitors… should’ve probably lasted longer.

[celest lichen]

Ya it sucks

[low cedar]

Probably not the right place to ask but does someone know what I can used on led screen to get oca off of it? Replacing the screen and trying to get the glue off.

[unique fable]

im getting my pc build this upcoming week. i need to get a gaming tv. i was looking at 55" tvs that were around 500-600$ CAD. Any suggestions. These were some of them i found. Not sure if they would be good for gaming

Introducing Amazon Fire TV 55" 4-Series 4K UHD smart TV

Hisense 55A6GV - 55 inch 4K Ultra HD Dolby Vision HDR10 VIDAA TV with Bluetooth, DTS TruSurround, 3HDMI(Canada Model), Black 2021

[raw ingot]

why a tv exactly?

a monitor would do better

[unique fable]

@raw ingot I understand a monitor will do better. Since we don’t have a big tv. Thought of combining the usage and space. I live in a intact condo.

[raw ingot]

oh, hmm

i suggest checking rtings for tv reviews

they have lots of reviews on tv's

and detailed comparison

[unique fable]

Omg thanks so much @raw ingot

Just what I needed to compare.

[raw ingot]

it's no problem

[carmine bloom]

What else will you be using the TV for?

[old arch]

Movies from more than 2 ft away?

[fading wyvern]

Projector tho

[thorn heron]

Anyone sit real close

[fading wyvern]

Wut u mean

[old arch]

My face is within 2 ft of my screen.

[wild birch]

anyone know how to fix this monitor issue? when i turn it on, it repeatedly turns off and on. Usually, it takes a while before it works (i think it’s warming up or something)

i bought if it in a thrift shop so that's why its old and kinda broken

[fallen hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/luke-r2-bad-motivator-c3p0-gif-5207453

[wild birch]

lol

[sonic merlin]

You might need to take it apart and carefully resolder the circuit board idk

[fallen hemlock]

You'll probably find a capacitor that is blown just barely

[wild birch]

will i need to buy a new capacitor or can i fix it with what I have? if so, i might as well buy a new monitor

[fallen hemlock]

It probably isn't worth the effort to swap out whatever component is failing. Unless you live somewhere that tech is hard to get a hold of.

[wild birch]

oh ok

[wild birch]

Anyone here can recommend a cheap 1920x1080 144hz monitor?

[quartz sandal]

msi g241/g242
gigabyte g24f
AOC 24G2

[wild birch]

dang they around 200 bucks or so
what do you think of buying used monitors?

ASUS VG248QE 24" Full HD 1920x1080 144Hz 1ms HDMI Gaming Monitor
I found this monitor being sold used at $125, I think it's a good deal?
Stated to not have dead pixels and scratches

[quartz sandal]

Used is fine if you don't mind, type the name into rtings and see if they have a review on it

[wild birch]

seems to be decent

[wild birch]

I have another question:
does having a bigger resolution of 2560x1440 need you to have a better gpu? I have a GTX 1050, but I think I see people recommending those higher monitors if you wanna make the most out of a high tier gpu

Also, is it the same thing for 27 inch monitors when compared to 24 inch ones? and i would think that a bigger monitor size and maintaining that 1920x1080 resolution would end up looking worse than having a 24inch and 1920x1080 resolution, or am i wrong

[quartz sandal]

You're correct with 24 vs 27" yeah 1440p is recommended for like 27 to 32" but you would need a way stronger gpu to game on it

[wild birch]

ah ok thank you

[quartz sandal]

Np

[summer tiger]

What's a good external monitor for a gaming laptop (3060)

Preferably 24-27 inch 1080p 120+hz

[sage trail]

whats wrong with your laptops current display?

just not big enough?

[summer tiger]

And no mux switch

[worn phoenix]

I know USB C 3.1 can send video signal so I bought a 3.2 because I can.

I didn't have a USB C cable where both ends were C so I didn't mind buying one

I ordered it back when I last commented

Tbd to arrive next week after waiting a while lol

[quartz sandal]

Not all type c supports dp/hdmi btw just some

[worn phoenix]

Well hopefully the one I bought does

At least for what I need

[quartz sandal]

I meant the port anyway, not sure on the cable specs

[cobalt ridge]

can anyone tell me what is volt power of power plug in m27q s power cable

[raw ingot]

depends on where you're buying from

[quartz sandal]

It's gonna be connected using a power brick and kettle lead or just kettle lead so you'll be fine either way, if you're ordering in your country they should provide you with the correct one tho

[raw ingot]

^

[quartz sandal]

Worst case scenario you get a different kettle lead

[novel merlin]

As I game mostly at 1080p I really want a 4k monitor so I can play with perfect scaling, but high refresh rate 4k monitors are so expensive

I want a new monitor but only really want to spend $500ish at most

[old arch]

Remember 4k is literally 4x-ish the pixels of 1080p & therefore much higher load.

[novel merlin]

Oh I'm not going to be mainly gaming at 4k

it's more that if I play at 1080p on 1440p it does non-perfect scaling

I'm really sensitive to that

Older games for sure but I want it more for content consumption

then perfect 1080p scaling for when I play games

[quartz sandal]

Just get a 1440p no?

[quartz sandal]

Just play 1440p on 1440p?

[old arch]

Possibly refers to much video content being 1080p. Eh, that's why I'd keep a 1080p monitor for.

[novel merlin]

Fps even on a 3070 kinda low for settings I like playing at

and yeah, a lot of content is at 1080p or 4k

1440p is a weird resolution

I dislike how scaling looks on a 10 inch 1440p screen, let alone a 27"

[quartz sandal]

What settings you play at?

Also what games? You could do dlss

[novel merlin]

Usually ultra or very high, depending on game

DLSS would be nice if all games would support it

[quartz sandal]

Try just high, looks basically the same in most games

[novel merlin]

I really like my settings

I'll do things like stare at reflections for hours

It really depends on the game though, I do love all my little details

I may just do 1440p, I'm not sure yet. I don't want buyers remorse over it.

I was playing games at 30-45 fps fully cranked on my 2060 before I got this card, I sacrifice a lot for the pretty look

[old arch]

Upping resolution is like added anti-aliasing so a few settings could be changed w/o a huge effect.

[quartz sandal]

Just try regular high, they look basically the same

[novel merlin]

Xbox Series consoles support 1440p displays right?

I know the PS5 doesn't

[quartz sandal]

I think so

[novel merlin]

Kinda dumb that playstation doesn't. I have a series s though, it's currently connected to my monitor

I also just want to get off of TN display, it's so washed out color wise

[quartz sandal]

Maybe i just had a good tn panel or something but i can't see a huge difference between my ips and tn

[novel merlin]

Weird

like my blacks look like medium grays

no colors are very vibrant even after calibration

just bleh

vg248qg

one thing I'm not excited for is a size over 24

but for 1440p/4k it's almost impossible to find smaller monitors

[quartz sandal]

You have a 24" 1440p atm?

[worn phoenix]

I have an M34WQ so it should work since that's the focal point of the product

[quartz sandal]

Ahh fair

[old arch]

Sounds like my* ips tbh, but I probably should adjust it.

[novel merlin]

1080p

[quartz sandal]

Ahhh i thought you said you downscaled

[novel merlin]

no I am worried about upscaling to 1440p from 1080p

It already bugs me for content consumption on a 10 inch tablet

like way more than you think it should

Imperfect scaling bugs me enough to where on my tablet and stuff I'll do 720p instead

anything that has weird blurring grosses me out. Including like motion blur too

[quartz sandal]

I've never seen any kind of weird blurring for stuff like that? Only thing is the odd window can look not sharp for some reason at 1440p

[carmine bloom]

yes it does

Xbox Series X or S(usually upscaled to 1440p through checkerboarding) on a is great.

[novel merlin]

Alright

I'm thinking about an m28u rn but I'm unsure if I should

[carmine bloom]

M27Q 😠

[novel merlin]

I kinda want to go 4k display atm

[old arch]

4k on anthing under 32"..... eh.

[novel merlin]

I sit 1.5 feet from my monitor

[carmine bloom]

Go Ultrawide then

[novel merlin]

I can't stand curved

are there non curved ultrawides?

[quartz sandal]

Then get m32q

[novel merlin]

32 inches is so big

I daily drive 2 23.4 inch displays atm

[quartz sandal]

Then go 27"

[novel merlin]

That I can do

that sounds cool

[old arch]

32 vs 2x24"? . I mean m27q + a "24" side monitor would beat a single 32" for sure.

[carmine bloom]

https://www.newegg.com/black-acer-nitro-xv340ck-pbmiipphzx-um-cx0aa-p05-34/p/0JC-000P-00HC1

Non curved ultrawide

[novel merlin]

I sit against the edge of my desk

So it really is like 1.5 feet

I sit really close to my monitors

Idek if I can see all of an ultra wide sitting that close

[old arch]

Ironic. Thing is curved is better for our eyes, but feels weird becuase monitirs have been flat or convex so long

[novel merlin]

Yeah LOL

[old arch]

Tbh I might be even closer to my 24"

[novel merlin]

Damn

Yeah I like smaller displays

Higher pixel density anyways

Biggest I'll go is a 27"

[valid kindle]

Hey I know I'm not in the right area but can you help me with finding what works with my pc

[carmine bloom]

What monitors will work? what GPU do you use

[valid kindle]

I got reserved a GPU and motherboard combo but I don't know how to find parts to work

[carmine bloom]

oh a full build?

[valid kindle]

Kind of

[carmine bloom]

https://pcpartpicker.com/

[valid kindle]

I have a few things written down but I'm trying to get the most stuuf for my budget

[carmine bloom]

this will be the best tool, you'll put the motherboard in here and you'll see what CPU's are compatible

What motherboard was in the bundle and whats your budget?

[old arch]

M27q is a slight ppi increase vs most 1080p 24" screens. I'd suggest that tbh, then maybe sell the worse of your current monitors. Or be pcmr & rock tri-monitors lol

[valid kindle]

Z590 AORUS PRO AX

[carmine bloom]

Uh. 1440p 27", 1080p 24", and 4k 48" all have the same pixel density if they are 16:9

[valid kindle]

AORUS GeForce RTX™ 3060 ELITE 12G

[carmine bloom]

Hey lets move over to #cpus-mobo-and-memory

[valid kindle]

My budget is as low as I can get it

Ok

[novel merlin]

I'm actually going to see my 165hz v247qg and keep my 75 hz 1080p as my second monitor

I don't need high refreshrate on my second monitor and would rather get more money to go towards an expensive monitor

[novel merlin]

Not enough room on my 4' desk lol

[quartz sandal]

Monitor arm time by the looks of it lol

[novel merlin]

I just upgraded from a 2' 10" desk a few months ago tho so this thing does feel huge

[old arch]

Yeah that's not a huge upgrade in your case, lol. My acer is 60Hz still 💩

[novel merlin]

I used to rock 3 actually

I used to have a 17" 900p display I used to use for discord or for performance metrics

but the plasma display burned out

it was in service since 2006

burned out last year

I had it overclocked to 85 hz from 60hz for most of that time too

[old arch]

I had dual monitors w/ some random 1280 x. 1024 lcd & my old pimp gaming crt the G90F. (Viewsonic).

[old arch]

Rip old plasma stuff

[pale ingot]

anyone know how well a gtx 1080 handles a 1440p monitor

[old arch]

Good, depending on game & game setting. At high settings, Won't be getting 140+ fps in many recent games.

[novel merlin]

well you won't be getting 140+ fps at all with that cpu :P

Is the m28u still being produced? it's out of stock everywhere

[old arch]

https://tenor.com/view/space-jam-remark-resemble-foghorn-leghorn-gif-14871302

I'd like to think Spookz has something a few gen newer. p.s. I sure as heck will, in a specific 5 or 10 games I have that are from 5+ years ago, LuL.

[quartz sandal]

It is

[novel merlin]

Alright, I'll wait for a restock then

[pale ingot]

What cpu were y'all talking about? Also I got a 3700x

[daring flume]

Any good deals for 2K monitors?

[summer tiger]

what good 120+hz 24-27 1080p monitors are there

[quartz sandal]

[quartz sandal]

@summer tiger

[heady carbon]

looking for a 27" monitor 144hz at least 1080p using for gaming i don't know anything about monitors to know what to look for using for gaming

[raw ingot]

msi g241/242

oh wait 27"

if you're ok with 1440p there's gigabyte m27q

[heady carbon]

I feel like a 24" is going to be to small I don't sit close enough

[quartz sandal]

27" is gonna look pretty blurry at 1080p, how far away do you sit?

[small canopy]

What kind of gaming? Casual or competative

[heady carbon]

around 3 or 4 feet away

not really trying to spend more than 300

[small canopy]

Still depends

[quartz sandal]

I'd personally still go 1440p but you could probs get away with 1080p at that distance

[small canopy]

^

If you play casual games 1440p will be worth ur money, but if you play a lot of competitive games I would go for the refresh rate first in ur budget over resolution

[heady carbon]

yea Im looking more for the refresh rate over the resolution

[quartz sandal]

I personally can't justify the price of 240hz monitors

[small canopy]

I would get either a 240hz 1080p for close to 280-300$ or get a 2k 144hz monitor for same price

Both have its ups and down

[heady carbon]

how much does the display type matter I found a 2k 144hz for $230 but it is a va but I noticed a lot of the motors ppl recommend are ips. I'm not gonna try to even get something at 240hz

[pale ingot]

Led isn't the same as ips

Ips is the panel type

There's three panel types: TN, VA and IPS

And from what I know ips is better viewing angles and faster response time, VA is better color accuracy and idk what TN does

[quartz sandal]

Tn=speed
Va=middle ground +ips glow
Ips=best colour +viewing angles
In general iirc but it really depends on panel

[quartz sandal]

Look at an rtings review, it really matters more what it looks like irl, like that sounds like possibly Westinghouse monitor, I've heard nothing but complaints about their monitors

[pale ingot]

Wow I had it all mixed up

[quartz sandal]

It really highly depends on the monitor tho, for example I've heard people talk bad about tn, while my ips is nicer the tn was still pretty good so i guess i just got a good one

[novel merlin]

I need me a Micro LED HDR1200 8k 240hz monitor

[old arch]

Waiting for near crt performance without needing 900Hz, haha.

[novel merlin]

I want to get off of this 6 bit color display asap

Kinda just over it

6 + 2(frc) is terrible picture quality

I want an 8+2 or true 10bit display eventually

[errant edge]

I want a 480p 480hz monitor

Imagine monitor ocing was like ram ocing

You could lower resolution to get higher refresh rate

Or increase resolution and lower refresh rate

Which I mean

Partially?

[quartz sandal]

Btw that's only some ram ic's i tried to get my cpu to post to test my fclk limits with my 3200cl16 kit - c die, i used the loosest timings and couldn't even get boot

[uneven heron]

got a monitor for free from a yard sale but i only have 4 monitor ports and they are all occupied, any cable options like a 2 to 1 cable? ive looked at display port switchers but read they only duplicate a screen? idk that might be pepega

[quartz sandal]

Your options are 1: if you have a non f intel cpu or g amd cpu, you can plug into motherboard
Option 2:get a gt710 or some other cheap gpu

[uneven heron]

hmm okay ill look into that. also is that true about dp switchers?

[old arch]

This is literally howa CRT was, Haha. They often did 60-85Hz but I only needed 70Hz. Many could do 2560x1600ish, but not at max refresh. No screen tearing, almost no input lag & fps limit varied by game (but a smooth 90+ would beat 120+ on an lcd, by nature)

[quartz sandal]

yeah theyre basically just repeaters

[uneven heron]

ah damn okay for sure thanks!

[novel merlin]

Yo when did Newegg change their dead pixel policy? When I bought my last monitor it was 3 or more!

I went to go look and items can be returned if they have 1 or more, even on 4K displays!

[wild coral]

ZED#0665 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

ZED#0665 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[oak pond]

My monitor is 166hz. But windows only has 144hz options for display settings. Is there a way to change that?

[stone sigil]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07LBM2DCC/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_i_GC3AZXDSKA1MMXVBG2QS?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

thoughts? looking for a second monitor

[quartz sandal]

4k at 27" is practically pointless imo for a main monitor, let alone a second

[stone sigil]

any suggestions? id be using it mostly for watching movies and other stuff like that

[quartz sandal]

For 27" ?

[stone sigil]

yeah

[quartz sandal]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bvqBD3/asus-va27ehe-270-1920x1080-75-hz-monitor-va27ehe i would just get this personally

[stone sigil]

thanks

[quartz sandal]

Np

[flint stirrup]

not displays but can i build a good speaker myself?

we dont have a discussion for audio parts

but if need be i’ll go to electronics

[quartz sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-well-yes-no-yes-yes-no-gif-13736934

[visual pilot]

#peripherals-and-displays tends to be the place for audio equipment

[flint stirrup]

okay ill check there

[tame notch]

hey i was wondering if there was a replacement panel for Panel for TUF Gaming VG259QMY?

[quartz sandal]

Uhhh you'd have to send it to asus

[tame notch]

so there would be no way of me fixing it either than sending to asus

[quartz sandal]

Correct

[tame notch]

alr thanks

[quartz sandal]

Assuming it's dead panel etc

[tame notch]

its no it just has a crack in it

[quartz sandal]

Yeah rma time

[tame notch]

aww man

[wild coral]

:XMARK6: Superstar7277, that command is disabled in this channel.

[novel merlin]

Depends, I sit 1.5 feet from my monitor

[quartz sandal]

pretty standard, i sit like a foot away

[novel merlin]

I can literally count the pixels at 1080p 23.4"

I would like to not be able to count the pixels XD

[quartz sandal]

How

[novel merlin]

I also am 20/220 in my left and 20/250 in my right eye and I can do it with my glasses on, it's not hard, especially when playing game

[old arch]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-smith-trailer-park-boys-bubbles-glasses-blink-gif-5292047

We don't wear binoculars. Some people are fine with 1080p on a 27" screen, lol. I notice the pixels on a 24" screen, but just too busy with the game.

[carmine bloom]

I need glasses or I can't see at all really. I'm blind as a bat.

[hollow ravine]

hey guys

i just bought a computer and there is no display appearing on my screen. I've tried HDMI DVI and DP and it doesnt work.. can someone help me please?

[carmine bloom]

are you plugging your hdmi into the motherboard or gpu?

[hollow ravine]

i tried both

both doesnt work

[carmine bloom]

is their any error lights on the motherboard?

[hollow ravine]

none

i tried my other gpu from my old computer inside the new one and it works

so its like the gpu isnt working...

im gonna call newegg tomorrow i guess.

[carmine bloom]

thats weird

[hollow ravine]

Will they send me a New GPU or will I have to send back the whole computer do u know?

[carmine bloom]

Probably the whole PC. They'll let you know more

[hollow ravine]

Ok thank you

[novel merlin]

Silly question but is both the motherboard 24 pin and the pcie power all the way in?

[carmine bloom]

They said that it worked with another GPU.

[novel merlin]

Ah I'm blind

I've had a GPU not post because the 24 pin was slightly loose

[quartz sandal]

I've 2020 afaik there's not a damm pixel i can see on my 27" 1440p

Even if i try

[novel merlin]

odd

main reason I want to upgrade is the pixel density of 24" 1080p lol

[old arch]

24" 1080p. Approx 10" from screen and staring straight at non moving stuff to actually see the pixels well. That's only on light colored stuff anyways since the grid lines are black. If the smaller icons or w/e won't bother ya, go right ahead and try a higher res 24", but to me getting a bigger actual screen size is part of the upgrade.

[errant edge]

24in 1080p, 12in at times

16/20 vision but even with my glasses I can't see pixels

[summer tiger]

is there any better monitors for the price than the g24f

for 1080p 120+hz ips 24in?

[pale ingot]

why am i not allowed to send links to best buy

[wary wave]

have to be level 3 to send links

unless its pcpp or newegg links

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-27-ips-fhd-165hz-1ms-g-sync-compatible-gaming-monitor-with-height-adjustable-displayporthdmi/6450750.p?skuId=6450750

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-tuf-24-5-ips-fhd-280hz-fast-1ms-g-sync-gaming-monitor-with-displayhdr-400/6421623.p?skuId=6421623

the links spookz sent ^

[summer tiger]

cheers

ok so the 24in one is around the same everything as the g24f as far as i can see

except $30 cheaper

oh wait

the g24f is $70 cheaper

[last fox]

Thoughts on this TV?

[zinc wind]

Is buying a pair of acer xb3s worth it for a 3060 ti?

[tame notch]

Wdym pair of acer xb3s?

like 2 of them

[zinc wind]

2

[tame notch]

2 of the monitors for a 3060ti right?

[zinc wind]

I was looking for someone that currently has an acer xb3, do you have any?

[tame notch]

oh you want to trade for 2 of the monitors?

no i dont

i wouldnt trade my 3060 ti for 2 monitors but im not you

becaseu 3060tis are so raree rn

[zinc wind]

I was looking for someone who could upvote a $1000 investment into two midrange monitors that have pretty decent specs. The 27 inch one looks like a great monitor that does not cost $700 + for each, with each being mounted on the wall.

[tame notch]

im a little confused

[tame notch]

you asked if trading 2 monitors for a 3060ti is worth it

[zinc wind]

Your misunderstood. I meant buying two monitors to use with my 3060. It’s all good 👍

[tame notch]

ohhh

no i would only buy one of the monitors and then buy like a 60 hz monitor

not buying 2 of them

[zinc wind]

Soo, I’ve invested over 3k into a pc I use to play RuneScape and Minecraft. I’m all about buying things I don’t need lol

[tame notch]

because its not woorth buying a 240 hz monitor for youtube google discord etc

[zinc wind]

280hz* lol

[tame notch]

well thats oc

[zinc wind]

270 stable ❤️

[tame notch]

🙂

i only have 144 but trying to get a 240-280 atm

[zinc wind]

Well, this one can oc to ~270-280 and costs the same as a 144hz at under $400. It’s a really good deal

[tame notch]

but buying 2 of them just isnt worth it lol

ehh 400 for 280

[zinc wind]

Each

[tame notch]

yeah ik

800 for 240 hz monitors

2

just buy a 60 hz one

and save the rest for somthing else

like saving for new gpu at the end of the year

or cpu

[visual pilot]

Or, get a single 240hz panel and 2 60hz panel, 3 monitor setup

[zinc wind]

I’m working on it, I’ll most likely end up getting both to complete a set. Two 27in monitors have been something I’ve been saving for awhile. I just see no sense in buying 2 4K monitors (for my pc) because having hdr with that small of a monitors looks damn near exactly the same from across my desk.

[visual pilot]

It just doesn't really make sense getting a second monitor that's 240hz

[tame notch]

thats what i said

[zinc wind]

Many of us in this chat spend stupid money on our rigs and accessories lol

[tame notch]

i mean you can its just kinda dumb

[visual pilot]

Yes, but spending stupid amounts of money on things that make a small difference is nicer than spending stupid amounts of money on things that doesn't make a difference

Like having 3 monitors total gives you more screen real-estate

But having a 240hz second monitor is not going to help on youtube or streamlabs or whatever you'll have on your second monitor

[zinc wind]

Thanks

[tame notch]

I mean for me its just kinda sad seeing people spend money on stuff that wont help because like me im not a fortunate as some can say and people like me just wish they could have that stuff if you know what im saying

[zinc wind]

Well, I can’t comment on “your income” state. I hope to be able to be a part of this community longer than a day. As for us though, it’s affordable compared to me just keeping my monitor, buying a 3090, 5900x, and 64gb of ddr5 lol

[tame notch]

what monitor do you currently have?

[zinc wind]

Lg 29um68-p. Bought it on sale a few years ago. It’s not the best

[tame notch]

I mean it looks nice but as you said its not the best

but you could buy a better spec monitor

for your second monitor

instead of a higher refresh rate

[zinc wind]

Before I decide I’ll probly hop back here and get more opinions, heading to bed thanks for talking 👍

[tame notch]

your welcome

[visual pilot]

Uh, 5900x doesn't support ddr5

[tame notch]

lol

only new intel cpus do

[visual pilot]

Also, with a 3090, I'd try to go for 1440p or above, like a M27q as a baseline, there's 1440p240hz monitors too if you're interested in those, like fi27q-x

[tame notch]

he said that he would rather buy the monitors instead of getting that pc

i think thats what he ment

but idk

[zinc wind]

Oof didnt realize that, they’re pcie4.0 but no ddr5, wow.

[tame notch]

yeah i guess intel got the uperhand rn until ryzen comes out with somthing new

[visual pilot]

Zen3d or whatever is coming soon ish

But that should still be ddr4

[tame notch]

hmm maybe but only time will thell

tell*

[zinc wind]

Thanks for checking my info, I’ve been learning about some of this stuff offhand when i can. I only know what I do about pcs from hands on learning. I would like to get more familiar with monitors though. Idk much about comparing 1080p, 1440p, hdr, 2k, 4k. I do know that most people can’t tell the difference between 144hz and 240hz unless your a pro fps gamer. Would you have anyone in particular maybe on YouTube I could watch explain some things about monitors? I want to learn, I just want to find someone willing to point me in the right direction 😁

Normally when I ask about being referred to another source people stop replying, would appreciate a nibble of information lol

[visual pilot]

Don't know much about videos on introductions into monitors, but here's the two main source of information about monitors imo:
https://www.youtube.com/c/Hardwareunboxednow/featured
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/

Rtings and hwunboxed both have good testing methodology and lots of info

[zinc wind]

Thanks, I normally scan over multiple websites because of course results/scenario is vary so much that it can be hard to be biased on one product over another. I swear it just comes down to brand preference most of the time, or people try to be cheap and get the baseline components. Idk, just my opinion. Thanks for talking @visual pilot and @tame notch 🙌😎🙌

[fading wyvern]

Honestly investing in nice stuff is pretty great, pc hardware value tanks though as much better alternatives come out faster then something like a chair or desk. A good keyboard, mouse and headset are pretty much the safest investments. The mouse being the one most likely to fail. Just my two cents after reading through. *a good psu stays good for quite a long time also (as long as the standards don’t change )

[wet gust]

anyone have an idea for a good monitor as I have a ROG zephyrus G14

please @ me

[quartz sandal]

msi g241/g242
gigabyte g24f
AOC 24G2

[wet gust]

ok thanks

will check them out

[novel merlin]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-g7-28-ips-1ms-4k-uhd-freesync-g-sync-compatible-gaming-monitor-with-hdr-black/6463480.p?skuId=6463480 tempted to buy this...

same panel as the m28u with some more features for $150 more

and it's in stock

[quartz sandal]

It's also 800 frickin dollars

[novel merlin]

Ikr

I want 4k 120+hz with a decent panel

turns out that is expensive

If I sell all my old components too I may have up to $1,000 to drop on a monitor

I want a monitor I ain't replacing for 5-10 years

only reason I'm looking at this one is because apparently the m28u only comes in stock once every few months

I have a free shipping coupon for best buy so may be worth it

idk what do you guys think? should I pull the trigger on a new display?

My 6 bit 1080p (6+2) tn panel make me the big sad rn

[old arch]

tbh I'd probably lean towards the M28U if in stock when you go to purchase, but saying 5+ makes me almost say just go for the G7. Only you can decide if the "extra features" or what-not are probably worth it. To me, 4K on 27-28" is actually a bit much, but I'm not the buyer. 👍. The funny thing about thinking ahead so far is perhaps in only 2 or 3 years there's a similar monitor for $500 or less. Although I doubt 4K stuff will drop too much too soon.

[novel merlin]

I'm currently rocking a 2014 6 bit tn 1080p 165hz display

6 bit color is really bad

it fakes 8 bit color by changing color every other frame to produce the 8 bit color (6+2 bit frc)

So idk if I want another 2 years on it

also apparently best buy covered dead pixel in even open box under their 14 day warranty

and they'll repair or replace it with a brand new model for free

so that's cool

I'm happy to see companies like newegg and bestbuy stop normalizing 1-3 dead pixels

[old arch]

Behold my $130 beast off a monitor.

[novel merlin]

you rock 60hz?

[old arch]

For now.

[novel merlin]

even with a 1080 that seems a bit silly

[old arch]

The price wasn't silly. Although yes, my eyeballs don't like that massive change from a good CRT. Need to get mine back out of storage, but a 18" screen wouldn't be great either. I'm going either M27Q or some $220ish 1080p display of some sort for a bit higher performance. Probably should have got one ages ago.

[novel merlin]

m27q is a really good monitor

especially if you're aren't 4k obsessed

[old arch]

I'm not even concerned w/ getting 1440P, but that res by itself would be an extra upgrade. If I do the usual 5+ year thinking like you, I shouldn't settle for 1080p just to save a few bucks in the short-term. 🤘

[novel merlin]

I usually go all out and keep it that way for things that don't become outdated as fast

so like keyboards, mice, displays, headphones, etc.

but things like gpu and cpu I'll upgrade every 2-4 years

[novel merlin]

You're planning on getting a better gpu aren't you?

I'd go for higher resolution and just splurge a little and keep the monitor for the next 2 gpu generations like you have with your 1080

or you could be like me and really splurge and keep a monitor for as long as you've kept your i5 🤣

[old arch]

Yeah, 2070S/2080(S, Ti) or anything newer w/ similar performance. Aiming for sub-$700 will take some time and a lot of hunting.

[novel merlin]

I've seen a few games where that i5 is below the minimum spec

that would terrify me

like far cry 6

[old arch]

haha, true. 1080 picks up the slack but I'm sure in some cases the cpu is what's making the 1% or .1% lows extra extra bad. tbh I'm usually a bang for buck guy. Some stuff new, some stuff used when it's 1+ years old and way cheaper. edit: FC 4 runs great for me. My newest game might be Doom Eternal. well I stupidly re-sold ram alone so now trying to sell cpu+mobo or at least just the mobo.

[novel merlin]

I mean you could do a reasonable upgrade to an i5 12th gen

or maybe 11th gen

11600k's are pretty cheap nowadays

might be able to push the refresh rates of the m27q

[novel merlin]

YO

that's exciting!

what mobo did you get?

wait that was 9 days ago why haven't you upgraded

[old arch]

I saw the performance and wattage of 12 gen, that's why. Mobo is the funky looking z590 msi gaming force.

[novel merlin]

do you have it yet?

[old arch]

yep, but I literally just sold the ram on hws yesterday and have to ship that out. Time to hunt for ram again but at least I can decide if I want the same 4000c18 G.Skill or go w/ ballistix. The $98 kit a week or so ago was awesome.

[novel merlin]

make sure it's only 2 sticks at that speed tbh

the imc on 11th gen doesn't like 4 sticks of that speed

hell the 12th gen imc doesn't even like it

[old arch]

oh for sure. This is what I had/sold, for example. It's actually decent base timings for a novice

[novel merlin]

I have 4 x 8gb 4400 cl19 running at 4000 cl16 atm

it's great

but the imc had to be fed a lot more voltage

Like took a good 6 hours to of tinkering total to get it stable

[old arch]

oh boy, that's great speed/timing though. I like to stay close to stock voltages, usually.

[novel merlin]

I got the kit for $25 a stick

[old arch]

Ah, what sticks are they? 4 is tougher on the imc perhaps but seems certain 8GB sticks clock much better than most 16GB ones. Pic is what I'm sort of leaning towards unless a 3600c16 is priced decent and actually is a better idea.

[old arch]

Nice. Yep, currently $48ish per stick on amazon. I'll go ahead and glance on ebay too then, but leary of used ram if it was OC'd/volted.

[novel merlin]

Most ram comes with lifetime warranties btw, I had a 2011 kit of gskill ddr3 replaced 3 months ago because one of the sticks failed

[old arch]

Oh, good to know. My Kingston is newer than I realized (2 kits of course). I knew more w/ ddr2, so I'm not gonna push this rig while it's my only daily.

[novel merlin]

I bought it... Idk if I'mma regret it later

but I have my monitor until 2029

I've never had an 8 + 2 panel before

just an 8 and that's my phone an tablet

I assume it's ask fake of a 10 bit as 6 + 2 is of an 8 bit

[compact basin]

ok, Tech question... I have a new Monitor, However i'm debating on not using it atm... What would ya'll choose? a 32" 60hz monitor or a 24" 165hz ? Even tho the quality is so much better like night and day, my PC is only a Ryzn 5 - 2400G with a 1050 GPU.. Quality is amazing but it pushes the GPU to the max as i am using a 3 mon setup.. and yes, i stream.. I have yet to try to stream while playing a game so not sure if it will even handle that at all... But if given the choice between the 24" over the 32", what would ya'll pick?

[visual pilot]

24in165hz

[novel merlin]

are the resolutions the same?

[visual pilot]

given its a 1050, I doubt you'll be doing anything at 4k, which I assume the 32in monitor is

[compact basin]

there both 1920x1080

[novel merlin]

oh 24"

for sure

[visual pilot]

oh then hell no for 32in 1080p 60hz

[novel merlin]

1080p at 32" is scary

[visual pilot]

AND 60hz

[old arch]

I wouldn't worry about the 8bit vs 8+2 bit non-sense. What did ya get? I usually lean towards amazon because of 5% back, lol. Quite a savings on bigger purchases.

[novel merlin]

60hz doesn't bug me much

[visual pilot]

60hz at 1080p just bothers me

4k60, fine, 1080p60, ick

my personal min is like 1080p144/1440p75/4k60

[old arch]

[novel merlin]

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-g7-28-ips-1ms-4k-uhd-freesync-g-sync-compatible-gaming-monitor-with-hdr-black/6463480.p?skuId=6463480
something way more expensive than I should've bought

[old arch]

60Hz period = junk for me.

[novel merlin]

You have a 60hz 1080p panel lol

[visual pilot]

you went for it?

[novel merlin]

m28u isn't predicted to be in stock for 2-4 months

and they have the same panel

I figured hecc it I'll just buy this one now and regret it later

[novel merlin]

I don't want one that big

I hate big displays

[old arch]

That ppi shall be lovely though. I'll hold off 4k for a future future upgrade. A lot of older games don't even have good 1440p support.

[novel merlin]

I want it so that

I can be 12 inches away

with a diagonal line on the screen

and still not be able to count the pixels

ppi so strong that I don't even need anti aliasing

so we all agree that I burn my 165hz 6 bit tn panel after new one arrives?

[old arch]

well 4k at 28" sure will help lessen the needed AA. That's why people ran 1600x1200 instead of like 1280x960. Of course, I played games that actually showed more on screen when you upped the res. Apparently some games don't do that.

btw I wouldn't mind "testing" that "crap" TN monitor.

[novel merlin]

it arrives tuesday

eh

it's old tech I don't think you'd want it

[old arch]

Probably like when the point of TN was better response rate, but perhaps it's not actually much better than my IPS monitor. I gotta really decide on m27q VS trying to pick from all the good 1080p models. well, upsizing w/ 1440p surely would be an extra upgrade than just going high-HZ.

[novel merlin]

oh so the actual response times and ghosting of the old tn panels

are worse than modern day va/ips

we've come a long way in 8 years

[old arch]

yes, seems like IPS is so good nowadays w/ "speed" and it's picture quality that we don't really have to get a TN panel anymore. TN mainly had lower input lag and such.

[night pine]

hey guys, idk where to ask so I hope you can help. Should I go for a g sync monitor or DyAc+ monitor. I currently have an alienware 2521HFL but I was thinking of getting the BenQ XL2546.

[fading wyvern]

Dyac is a game changer for people, I’d highly suggest going for it especially if you’re playing fps games. Gsync is just vrr where dyac helps quite a bit

[night pine]

you think so? I am just worried about the screen tearing without G sync

[old arch]

plenty of non-Gsync monitors w/ VRR, can also use free sync w/ Nvidia gpu's

[fading wyvern]

If it has free sync it’ll be fine

Dyac+ is basically a no overhead extra that helps with image clarity in motion a lot like vrr aka gsync free sync

It’s basically a superior in some games extra that people will buy benq specifically for

It’s why they often times have such a high price premium

[fading wyvern]

https://youtu.be/38j3cN4AzPU this guy makes great content and is pretty skilled at fps, he goes a bit into detail about Dyac in this

[novel merlin]

what gpu do you have

[novel merlin]

remember this is only a feature of 1000 series and later for nvidia, if he has something like a 980 he'd not be able to do that

[fading wyvern]

True for vrr, Dyac is built in tho

[old arch]

If I had a time machine, one of these behemoths is something I'd grab. tearing, ghosting? gtfo It could do 1440P easily also btw.

[sage trail]

cant forget the FW900 tho

[night pine]

i have 3060Ti

[novel merlin]

oh god

100 pounds?

could ship a child in the box and no one could tell the difference by weight

that's absurd

My desk might actually break with a 100 pound monitor

[fading wyvern]

You could also use it as like a comedic trap in a cartoon

[novel merlin]

LOL

instead of anvil take a crt

[old arch]

Right, the "normal" 21". I had a few 19" monitors. Actually all I can remember is the pair of Viewsonics G90F that my dad and I had. 18" viewable, $350ish at one time. Great for the o.g. FPS games a decade or so ago. Only 60ish lbs

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824116199

[fading wyvern]

But overall dyac makes a ton of sense for competitive fps players. It’s going to be a TN panel but color accuracy isn’t really the point of that competitive advantage

[old arch]

So a TN w/ dyac is a lot closer to CRT speed than other stuff?

[sage trail]

speed really isnt an issue anymore

[fading wyvern]

Nope cuz oled and microled or w.e Samsung is calling it

[sage trail]

tbh the only leg up CRTs have are for games designed with CRTs in mind

[fading wyvern]

Like duck hunt

[old arch]

you mean non-widescreen? yeah

[sage trail]

no i mean like everything

wait ignore that

[fading wyvern]

[old arch]

This would spank any LCD up until 2010 or so, lol.

[sage trail]

yes, games that were designed to be run in 4:3 are best on CRT lmao

[sage trail]

yep, but this is 2022

[old arch]

https://tenor.com/view/21jumpstreet-channing-tatum-jonah-hill-captain-sassy-gif-4576334

[sage trail]

CRTs are the only option for gaming pre 2008 imo

but now that games arent designed with the quirks of the CRT in mind, better on an LCD

all just comes down to design choices

[old arch]

I just feel that LCD is finally decent for games. ngL, probably was around 2016 when I put my G90F in storage.

[sage trail]

oh yeah, thats accurate

i would say with the advent of the 1080p 120hz IPS panel

is when things finally shifted in favor of LCD

[fading wyvern]

The only real reason to buy a TN panel would be dyac 👀. IPS is excellent for a all around experience… but you’ll experience a small fps decrease while using vrr. Chillen just wants a 100 pound brick to drop on someone

[old arch]

Of course I wouldn't go down to a 1280x960 18" screen anymore.

[novel merlin]

I can't wait to drop this stupid 2014 6 bit tn panel

165hz is so blurry on it lol

[sage trail]

what on earth is dyac

[novel merlin]

dynamic accuarcy

[sage trail]

which does

[novel merlin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38j3cN4AzPU watch this video, you'll be stupid impressed

[novel merlin]

0 motion blur

and I mean

0

no blur between frames whatso ever

[fading wyvern]

It’s vrr but built in reduces motion blur and increases clarity, also reduces screen shake

[novel merlin]

actually vrr is off with dyac

[fading wyvern]

It’s pretty much the standard for most competitive

[novel merlin]

they're mutually exclusive

[sage trail]

TN 1080p?

[novel merlin]

yep

[sage trail]

[novel merlin]

look at this tho

sassy look at that clarity

[sage trail]

yeah, exclusively for gaming where your getting paid to do it imo

[novel merlin]

you can see the individual pupils at 240 fps

[sage trail]

yeah, i can see it because theres a high speed camera seeing it for me LMAO

[fading wyvern]

And also no performance overhead on the gpu

[novel merlin]

yeah I'd never buy it but holy cow

if you need that sort of thing

dyac+ premium is op af

[sage trail]

once again, if youre getting paid to game infront of it

sure

[novel merlin]

Even if you're just a super super competitive love your game kind of person

[sage trail]

nah

[novel merlin]

casual cod players? pfft

[fading wyvern]

Irl it seriously helps in competitive settings, blurry people on a corner looks more like a dude in a corner

[old arch]

$400 is my personal max for a monitor, but perhaps in another year or 2 that DyAc-ish stuff will be in more monitor that aren't $600+

[novel merlin]

I just dropped $800

I'm keeping that thing until 2029 tho

that's a 7+ year monitor

[old arch]

well you paid for 4k, not best gaming performance

[novel merlin]

said the same thing about my current one, which at the time people were still reccomending 900p monitors

[sage trail]

ion think this sort of thing really helps that much with gaming performance tbh

[fading wyvern]

It does in most fps games 👀

[sage trail]

somethings are legit, others are very akin to the bs you find in the audiophile space

[fading wyvern]

It’s literally visual clarity while moving

[sage trail]

im talking about personal experience

whether or not that dude on the screen is blurry or not, you are gonna shoot him

[fading wyvern]

Not if you don’t recognize the human outline

[sage trail]

bs

[fading wyvern]

[sage trail]

its not enough of a difference

would rather have 1440p or 4k

[fading wyvern]

That’s your preference man

[sage trail]

blurry, but more pixels of person?

[old arch]

That 3 alien pic though, no doubt it might be exaggerated to sell the monitor.

[sage trail]

ion believe this would truly make a major difference for people who play video games. like in reality

[fading wyvern]

It’s not. I’ve used it, of course irl it’s not that clear but it’s pretty great

[sage trail]

sure, its super awesome tech

dont get me wrong

still isnt changing the fact that having a 4ms gtg pixel response time is actually damaging to someones gameplay

[fading wyvern]

Again it’s just a advantage that also has no performance overhead on the gpu and provides pretty impressive clarity in motion

[novel merlin]

Just tried dldsr and wtf

[sage trail]

i fail to see any logical advantage

[novel merlin]

literally gained 4% performance at 1.78x resolution

[sage trail]

im sure it looks awesome

[novel merlin]

and it looks so much smoother

[sage trail]

that wouldnt suprise me

a real difference in a pro gamers ability to click head?

nah

marketing

[novel merlin]

I'm dumbfounded by how good the aliasing is, it's flat out rendering at 1440p with 1080p performance

[old arch]

$500 isn't too crazy so far, but not gonna pay that much and still be at 24"/1080P. Of course, apparently there's a few games where the view isn't enlarged even when the res is increased. lame.

[fading wyvern]

Okay sassy

[novel merlin]

With fps cap off I get 230-255 fps on my 3070 doom eternal max settings at 1.78x 1080p (1440p) with dldsr

[sage trail]

as an audiophile and a techie, i can spot bs from miles away

[novel merlin]

If you haven't seen it in person can you really judge it that well though?

[fading wyvern]

But you can’t cuz at a mile away a 24inch screen would be impossible to perceive clearly without external aid

[sage trail]

i dont need to listen to the difference between 5 and 200 dollar audio cables either...

[sage trail]

damn TRUEE.

shiii

[old arch]

Is it me, or DyAc is basically a $200ish upgrade?

[fading wyvern]

Dyac is a 200$ price premium

Yeah

[sage trail]

ok honestly

that aint bad

still impossible to recommend for literally anyone who either isnt already used to non-TN 1440p+, or a paid pro esports gamer.

[fading wyvern]

Aspiring esports also even tho we all know they won’t make it

[sage trail]

lol

[novel merlin]

I think I see how they're doing the dldsr so well

it's optimized for only 2 settings LOL

[sage trail]

actually after thinking about it maybe 200 dollars is a bit much

maybe 100 at most

but 1440p 240hz be 700 minimum

[fading wyvern]

I’d agree with that, but it’s quite a lot better then just a standard 240hz tn

[old arch]

oh I forgot

[sage trail]

which would be the logical step up from 1080p 240

what is monitor profil

[old arch]

is it though? well, standard as in super cheap crap or something pretty good that's a usual $300ish.

[sage trail]

ok 400 is a bit better

[fading wyvern]

Sassy you should watch that video tho, yeah it is standard tn tends to have some pretty meh smearing without something like bfi

[old arch]

oops

[sage trail]

oh haha

also cant use dyac with vrr?

[novel merlin]

no

[sage trail]

eww

[novel merlin]

you have to lock it at 240hz

[sage trail]

unless you can get 240fps or greater lows consistently

[old arch]

Pretty sure VRR is a bit of a game changer overall

[sage trail]

then thats an iffy buy

i feel like for esports titles, no vrr might not be a huge problem

because youre already getting 300-600 fps

which is crazy

[night pine]

If I'm being honest the reason I considered the 2546 is because the monitor I currently have has a base thats way too large and the BenQ is way more adjustable

also the DyAc

[fading wyvern]

I’d suggest looking at a cheap ips and buying a monitor arm then.

“Cheap” like around $300

[novel merlin]

you can get 1440p 144hz for $300ish range can't you?

[old arch]

230-260*, because you'd put on a frame cap right? Unless these newer monitors don't get screen tearing much or something.

[fading wyvern]

Could pick up a M27q and a arm for like $350

[novel merlin]

yeah get this

or a newegg link

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012018

cheaper on newegg actually do that

[sage trail]

fps cap?

why

[old arch]

exactly

no VRR. I was talking about that one

[sage trail]

oh

yeah'

[night pine]

ah but its 27" im looking for 24 or sumn like dat

[fading wyvern]

Ah alright, 1080p should be fine

Just the M27q is more feature rich and “future proofed” quotes cuz that’ll last maybe a year

[old arch]

[sage trail]

https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2411K-Ergonomic-Customizable-Compatible/dp/B08G57LF6X?th=1

theres a 144hz variant too

[fading wyvern]

That literally is a sharpening filter lmao

[sage trail]

for a very reasonable price

[maiden wedge]

i have this monitor

just to say color accuracy is not the best

[sage trail]

expected

oh its just dyac, not dyac+

[fading wyvern]

TN does that

[maiden wedge]

yeah i was stuck with it for a year then got the asus tuf 280hz one

[fading wyvern]

Dyac+ is basically just the new refresh of the like 6 y/o tech

[old arch]

remember the 240 vs 144 pic?

[fading wyvern]

[maiden wedge]

is that benq's advertisement?

[old arch]

yea it's 1 of the pics on amazon listing. It's more about how 120hz looks good here, then 144Hz in the comparison to 240 hz looks like crap. Typical though.

[fading wyvern]

God what a meme ad. It’s dust 2 in a spot where the dudes barely moving and is just jumping

[maiden wedge]

Marketing

[fading wyvern]

Also for clarity I’m basically a LG fanboy who’ll advertise for lgs OLED stuff even tho burn in

It’s purty

[novel merlin]

24" is what I prefer too but I'm going up to 4k and they don't have high resolution 24" :(

[fading wyvern]

Alright enough monitor stuff back to work for me

[night pine]

wait so what's the consensus, good idea to switch to 2546 from AL2521HFL? or should I look for a monitor with similar specs just with a smaller base?

cus this all started for me when I decided I needed that space and now I don't know if I should let go of G sync

[fading wyvern]

Gsync is another version of VRR (variable refresh rate) I’d suggest looking for a highly rated monitor on rtings.com. You can always pick up a vesa 100x100 mount arm to make the ergonomics wayyy better

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/best/by-resolution/1080p-full-hd

@night pine

Free sync (g sync compatible) does the same thing as gsync just to clarify

https://tenor.com/view/gravity-falls-smoke-bomb-gif-15389835

[night pine]

so if buy 2546 and decide id rather have g sync I can still turn it on and not lose anything?

sorry im not too knowledgeable with these things, don't want to make a choice I regret

[fading wyvern]

Instead of something like the 2546, you could just check rtings top 5 monitors and pick one out. They do extremely in-depth reviews they typically have the best recommendations, the link to rtings I sent will take you there.

[night pine]

k thx bro

[wet gust]

is this good??https://www.amazon.co.uk/BenQ-EX2780Q-Gaming-Monitor-FreeSync/dp/B07X8HBHJP?tag=pcmaguk-21&ascsubtag=05OZZtHEVjZiZHv06rjlD33&th=1

[nimble patrol]

my first message

[summer tiger]

i like your discord banner

made me laugh

[wet gust]

is this good https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-TUF-Gaming-VG279QM-Monitor/dp/B07VW9ZD6Y/ref=sr_1_1?adgrpid=107631724250&gclid=CjwKCAiA866PBhAYEiwANkIneD3T7BFEIDAEYRHpibfQTzoDA71IGilA5fiulqnTjJnsKfGmaveM7hoCeaAQAvD_BwE&hvadid=476463142744&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9045777&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=11088881546075926581&hvtargid=kwd-904567513618&hydadcr=26609_1931191&keywords=asus%2Btuf%2Bgaming%2Bvg279qm%2B27&qid=1642878988&sr=8-1&th=1

and which one like free sync or gsync or ips for 27 inch

[wet gust]

please at me

@wet gust

[misty gyro]

There's not a lot of good reviews on that, but from what I can piece together it's usable. Not great, and some features are bad or broken like the elmb sync, but about an average TN panel.
For that price, you could get a better monitor like the M27Q.

[wet gust]

ok because I have a laptop and just need another bigger screen for gaming and blender sometimes

[visual pilot]

What GPU

Most laptop GPUs won't have fun with gaming at 1440p

[wet gust]

rtx 2060

it is an ROG G14

[visual pilot]

I wouldn't game at 1440p with a mobile 2060

[wet gust]

I am looking for more in the 200 pound price range

[visual pilot]

A 1080p 24in panel like G241 should be more than enough

G241 is 180gbp

[wet gust]

ok

[cerulean jackal]

Anyone know if a pc with a 5600g will run a 1440p monitor at 165hz?

[raw ingot]

yes

but not in games, no

[sick plume]

itll run it on the desktop and browser and stuff but thats it

[cerulean jackal]

I am trying to get a 3050 soon. Do you think that will run the 1440p 165hz monitor?

[sick plume]

same story

not in games

[cerulean jackal]

Why won’t it. Is it just that powerful?

[sick plume]

the gpus just arent that powerful

[cerulean jackal]

Oh ok

What is the recommended gpu for a 1440p 165hz monitor?

[sick plume]

3060ti

minimum

id aim for a 3070

[cerulean jackal]

Oh ok

[indigo berry]

I have 2 old PCs
They are a very small form factor (25207cm) and the both start but I can't get video output from both of them
They only have DVI-I dual link but I have only adapters (dvi-hdmi, dvi-vga...) But none of them has a DVI-I only DVI-D or DVI-A...
I wanted to know if DVI-D/A are compatible with DVI-I

They have ATI Radeon graphics, it maybe has problems with resolution... 1080p..?

[misty gyro]

They are not compatible without an active converter. -I is "interlaced" (analog) and -D is digital.
DVI-A on the other hand is more like a cut down -I, it may work or may limit the resolution but will only work if the other end of the adapter is VGA.

[misty gyro]

My laptop with a Radeon HD 4250 can do 1080p external. Probably higher but haven't tested.

[indigo berry]

Will a DVI-I to HDMI adapter work?

DVI-I

Or DVI-I to VGA

[dapper kettle]

is a odyssey g5 a good monitor

[wary wave]

odyssey lineup is fairly good im pretty sure

[misty gyro]

Only this, since it's analog to analog. You can't do analog to digital (hdmi etc) without an active converter.

[oak pond]

My 3060ti only a runs a game like Ark at around 100fps on 1080p at max settings. Not sure I could recommend it for 1440

[sick plume]

ark is a trash game optimisation wise

lol

[oak pond]

Yeah but I enjoy it ☺️

[sick plume]

3060ti should do most games decently well at 1440

and very well with dlss

[oak pond]

Honestly only had it for less than a week so haven’t had time to play other games yet

[sick plume]

irrelevant you can enjoy badly optimised buggy games

i enjoyed cyberponk at launch

[novel merlin]

My monitor says delayed until Wednesday

It's sad because I could literally go drive 6 hours and pick it up tomorrow the UPS facility is that close

So idek how it's delayed until Wednesday

[old arch]

Almost as bad as

[novel merlin]

Thankfully half my prime items are same day shipping

[old arch]

wtf. CA thing?

[novel merlin]

I live close to the second biggest Amazon warehouse along the rocky mountains

I live in Colorado

I've had same day delivery items show up an 2 hours after order before

It's spooky fast

[old arch]

ah oh well. If I need something quick I could try to check a best buy 20 miles away. Farther than that and I'd just wait because 18-20mpg + $5/gal gas. (unless I felt like a bit of a cruise. I'm getting close to wanting the M27Q or something like that. Sort of want to stay at 1080p, but idk. Soon enough I'll have a 11/12gen rig and/or a gpu upgrade. I still have the z590 mobo for sale a bit longer.

[novel merlin]

18mpg??

OOF

I get 32 city 39 highway I believe

And gas here was $2.70 a month ago but has risen back to $2.90

Annoying

[old arch]

It's a truck.

[novel merlin]

I couldn't imagine daily driving something under 25mpg honestly, gas gets pricey

Then again I'm spoiled by a car that gets over 300 miles in range on a 9.2 gallon tank

[old arch]

My normal commute is maybe 4 miles per day. Also it was very cheap, plus handy for side jobs w/e. When/if I get another vehicle, it'll probably be a 30+ mpg car of some sort, sure.

[novel merlin]

Oh my normal commute is 1.8 miles. If it's just me using my car I'll have to fill it up once every 2-3 months or so

[sonic lake]

Anyone have a good budget 1440 monitor suggestion? I have this one on my list currently
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08YJWYMD5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_i_CT62FT289DQ68457B935?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[sick plume]

[raw ingot]

[quartz sandal]

[fading wyvern]

[surreal quarry]

[eager zenith]

Except its more than $100 over their budget

[quartz sandal]

If you had a budget of 200$ better off getting a nice 180$ 1080p 24" display

[tame notch]

Does the vg24vq have hdr?

[misty gyro]

No, it will not accept HDR signal

[maiden wedge]

S2721DGF

x5

[fading wyvern]

But it’s the same price and not as good

[old arch]

heck it's not even same price, lol: MC should be mentioned but not linked because it's not realistic for many of us.

[novel merlin]

Well I think MC should be linked for people like me that live 20-25 minutes from one :P

[old arch]

or both, not just for the 3 people close to an MC, there might be 2 monitors there to try to grab, but the other 90 people have to google it anyways . w/e

[pale ingot]

Anyone have any clue why my main monitor is appearing as monitor 2

Oh nvm I seem to have fixed it by swapping the ports they were in lol

[old arch]

Or use the "control panel"/display options, haha

[novel merlin]

4k at 28 inches is absurd wtfffff

[old arch]

Yes, but a few people want that absurdly high ppi.

[novel merlin]

it's so pretty

I have trouble focusing on the whole monitor at 28 inches like

I actually have to look around it

kinda silly

it has a stuck red pixel outof box but I don't notice it unless black screen

I'll fix it tonight

stuck pixels aren't really bad, just dead ones

I can fix dead pretty easily

[old arch]

You mean vs 24" screen? I sit pretty close, keyboard at front of desk & monitor right behind it. 🤘 I think M27Q or similar will be just right, even if I can't do 170ish FPS, yet. That's what VRR is for.

[fading wyvern]

Did you pick up a M28u?

[novel merlin]

out of stock

probably for 2 more months or so

I got a monitor with the same panel though, so I can vouch that the panel has great color and decent blacks for an IPS

I got the 28" odyssey G7

uses the same 28 inch panel

so I have an issue

look on the bottom left

so I have my 1080p monitor set up like this

but for some stupid reason

they're sharing the last pixel of the 1080p monitor

so I have task manager open so I can see 1 pixel of white in the bottom left

how do I fix that

[misty gyro]

Maybe try moving monitor 2 up a few pixels

[novel merlin]

LOL it just moves the white line up!

[old arch]

"Extended screen"? I'd say move task manager over 2 pixels, lol.

[novel merlin]

now it's in the middle of my screen

it's in full screen

on the left monitor

it should NOT share ANY pixels in full screen

[old arch]

In display options, can't adjust overall screen position? Hmm

[novel merlin]

okay I can confirm that if I full screen a window on my 4k monitor

I do not see on pixel on the edge of my 1080p one

it's only working one way

and it's driving me crazy

[misty gyro]

Maybe try a custom resolution and add a couple pixels to the 4k?

On the horizontal

[old arch]

Or custom on the other and make it like 1918x1080 instead of 1920 wide. Been a long time since i had dual screens

[fading wyvern]

Thought Samsung was only using their VA type panels

[old arch]

VA is good for contrast and a few things, but IPS has gotten better in some ways also. So many panels out there

[fading wyvern]

Ah but I just mean it’s not the ‘same’ panel is all

[misty gyro]

Flat odyssey can use IPS

[fading wyvern]

Ah they are using bgr gigabyte panels

[novel merlin]

literally the same exact panel from the same manufacturer for the new odyseey g7

the same exact 4k 144hz 28" panel

a few monitors use the same panel to my knowledge

excuse me wtf

if I set the scaling for the 1080p display to 150% or over

it stops

this is jsut windows 11 being bugged to all hell

doesn't matter what I set the second monitor to

but the 1 pixel overlap only happens at 149% or lower

I want my second display at 100% :(

[fading wyvern]

Oh fun actually that display in a lot of ways is better, the m28u is using a lower end cable, so it’s actually using some compression to achieve 4K 144hz. That Samsung is using about 2x the bandwidth

Just a bit worse color accuracy out the box it seems

Overall great display

[novel merlin]

yeah apparently I have full bandwidth 2.1 vs the half bandwidth hdmi 2.1 on the m28u

[fading wyvern]

Yeah it’s 28gbps vs 40

[novel merlin]

but apparently the half bandwidth hdmi 2.1 is still considered hdmi 2.1? wtf is the certification for that??

[fading wyvern]

Idk I should’ve looked into tht a bit more before yelling the m28u/32 has 2.1

[novel merlin]

See even though I have a series console I just put it at 60hz since no game will push 4k 120hz

[fading wyvern]

Well new go to 4K suggestion

Sucks the color accuracy out of the box isn’t as good though, seems to be everyone’s downfall besides gigabyte

[novel merlin]

so I updated the software and it fixed the color accuracy

really really weird

the colors look much better after I updated the monitor

I've never had a monitor that needed a firmware update through usb before?

[fading wyvern]

Welp hopefully rtings will update their review then

That’s a bit weird I’ll admit

[novel merlin]

is this a common thing?

[fading wyvern]

No clue honestly

[novel merlin]

yeah flat out inside the box it says to check the website for a firmware file

and it was there and I used it

it's only 2MB though lol

nvidia doesn't let me move it away, it snaps to it

it's a scaling error with windows 11

should I just bite the bullet and do 150% scaling for my second monitor :(

excuse me wtf

it ONLY happens with task manager?

I full screen chrome on second monitor? nothing. I full screen windows settings? nothing. I fullscreen file explorer? nothing. I do task manager? white line on primary monitor

[misty gyro]

Windows 11 is a perfectly balanced OS with no bugs

So now excuse me while I upgrade

[old arch]

Its a sign. Task manager is 1 of the few things I never maximize 😅

[novel merlin]

Apparently no one on the QA team has maximized it either on a 1080p screen with normal scaling

[summer tiger]

g24f good?

[raw ingot]

ya