old-monitors-and-tv

[visual pilot]

Run it twice, if perf looks around same, it'll be fine

[abstract scaffold]

haha, I'm trying to remember the name of the benchmarking software my friend had me using

ah I have aida64 already so i can try that quick

[visual pilot]

one of the benchmarks with pi?

y cruncher?

[abstract scaffold]

god wtf is the name, i'm going to use EVerything and see if i can find the program

[visual pilot]

superpi?

wprime?

[abstract scaffold]

Oh

It's RealBench.exe

ASUS RealBench

it does 4 different tests, remember he was having me try that out

[visual pilot]

oh yea

[visual pilot]

just use occt

[abstract scaffold]

haha ok, i'll download that now

[visual pilot]

forgot about occt for a moment for some reason

but occt is just a bit of everything

afaik it's better than realbench for a good load

[abstract scaffold]

yeah occt is on the list of recommended software in the mem guiode looks like

[visual pilot]

but occt is not a benchmark tool

[abstract scaffold]

ok nice, that's what I'm curious about for y'know, streaming, recording, gameplay, video editing etc

[misty gyro]

People have a love/hate thing with OCCT, everyone likes to complain about some little thing though

[visual pilot]

who hates occt though >:P

[abstract scaffold]

haha

[visual pilot]

There's always dislike, yea, some of the tests aren't the most intensive, it's not as good as furmark or smallffts for power draw but eh

[misty gyro]

People who say "it's not a realistic test"

[abstract scaffold]

here's a random question, do you install programs in Program Files or Program Files (x86) still? I assumed x64 programs go into the non x86 folder, never knew if there is really a difference these days

[visual pilot]

oh that kind

[abstract scaffold]

I worry about furmark because of it's problems in the past, so usually I try Superposition or Heaven benchmark just to get a feel

[visual pilot]

all modern processors are x86 based afaik

[abstract scaffold]

like cinebench R23 i would just install into normal Program Folders but I still have the x86 folder too

maybe I'm just oldschool and still install things into Program Folders and no one does that anymore

[misty gyro]

You're right, typically x64 compatible programs will see themselves into the regular program files folder by default.
I changed the default install location on my computer to my secondary drive

[abstract scaffold]

yeah me too, I have things onto my D drive for most programs now unless I forgot when I first set up this PC and they're still on the SATA SSD C drive

[visual pilot]

anyways from a limited sample, testmem5 can be better than occt at finding errors, but if you have time, run both

[abstract scaffold]

sweet, thank you. I'll def be testing with games too, that's usually the biggest test if certain games crash or cause blue screens. So far no blue screening which is a good sign because

usually if I turn up my RAM speed i can barley get into windows

I still have PBO to 150+ mhz haven't tried 175mhz yet, will have to watch the cpu temps cuz it's idling between 55-65c.

[visual pilot]

stuff like tm5 is very intensive, takes a lot of time, and I say more intensive than games

but ofc there's always some OCs that pass one stress test and fail another

[abstract scaffold]

gpu being a little goofy tho jumping between 1860 to 500mhz constantly, i know i can OC my 3070 Ti with msi afterburner up to +93mhz and +200mhz on the memory with 104% power limit and 100% core voltage

I've def never used tm5 before so curious how that works

[visual pilot]

tm5 being testmem5

[abstract scaffold]

nice, alright let's try CR23 multi core and single core..

[misty gyro]

When you load the program it'll start testing automatically, but you'll want to hit the choose config button, select the anta777 extreme profile, let it close and reopen

[abstract scaffold]

oh geez does this multi core test go for 10 minutes? lol

ok cool thank you

[misty gyro]

On OCCT? It's configurable up to an hour on the free version

TM5 can take a couple hours

[abstract scaffold]

no this is Cinebench R23

ah ok ill have to run TM5 while i slepe then

[misty gyro]

Ohh, R23 can take a little time yeah

You can set that one to loop for testing too

[abstract scaffold]

not bad on the multi core, 13778 number 4 place below threadripper 1950x but above i9-9880H

huh my evaluation period for Aida64 is over

[abstract scaffold]

@visual pilot running OCCT memory Test getting random number of errors every second

highest number was 85 errors initially then it averaged between 9 to 20 errors each second of the test

I don't think teh ram and cpu are stable because I'm getting instability or crashes in software. Windows isn't crashing but random programs are

Nvm. Pc just blue screened 😦 dnno what settings I could change to try and make 3600mhz more stable.

[misty gyro]

Put memory voltage up some. 1.55v for testing, then you can see if you can lower it later. If you still get errors set pbo back to auto and test again.

[abstract scaffold]

1.55 is safe? Never gone up that high before I’ll give it a shot

[sick plume]

on the ram it is

[misty gyro]

1.7v has been done frequently on b-die

[abstract scaffold]

Okay, I have the 0.0125v negative offset on the cpu still

And pbo set to enabled but I disabled the 150+ max just put at enabled nothing else

[sick plume]

2v has been done on b die for short oc runs

[abstract scaffold]

Goddamn

[sick plume]

it degrades the ram, but it is done

[abstract scaffold]

Hoping I’m sure I have b die.. lol

[misty gyro]

Yeah b-die loves them volts

[sick plume]

I run my ram at 1.5V daily

[misty gyro]

It's straight 14 timings, definitely b-die

[abstract scaffold]

I just worry about 1.55 daily

Haha nice

[misty gyro]

I do 1.52v daily no issues

[sick plume]

TBH at 1.55V you need to worry more about heat than voltage

[abstract scaffold]

Yeah Doing OCCT cpu and Ram test AVX2 Large I get about 5 errors each second on the physical cores

Doing just memory Ram AVX2 test I’m getting 1 to 5 errors each second, do I need no errors to be stable ?

[sick plume]

maybe try getting rid of this

[abstract scaffold]

Okay, yeah they were suggesting I set a negative offset on my 5800x to get higher core clocks with PBO enabled

I also re enabled power down mode to check for stability I guess

[abstract scaffold]

Ugh I’m at 1.53v on the dram and still getting errors in OCCT test

[misty gyro]

At this point you can try setting SoC voltage to 1.05v or 1.1v, that can help with stability

[abstract scaffold]

Okay, should I set dram voltage back down to like 1.5 or 1.52 while doing that?

[misty gyro]

Not at this point no, once we get you to where you get 0 errors you can start dialing back voltages

[abstract scaffold]

Ooof yeah 1.54v blue screens after a few minutes

So @misty gyro I’m setting DRAM to 1.53v then VDDCR SOC voltage manual to 1.05000?

[misty gyro]

Yes, and if 1.05v doesn't work 1.1v

[abstract scaffold]

Ok thx, so just texting with OCCT for errors is good enough for now ? Til I can get it with NO errors

[misty gyro]

Yes

A single error means it's not stable

[abstract scaffold]

Ok cool

Damn it I’m getting like 1 to 5 errors, very small amount

Ouch, SOC at 1.1 and dram at 1.53 still same error amounts basically.

Power down mode is disabled and I’ve set pbo to auto so it’s basically disabled

[misty gyro]

VDDP and VDDG set to 1.05v

[abstract scaffold]

So you’re talking about VDDP Standby voltage or CLDO VDDP voltage? There’s VDDG CCD or VDDG IOD Voltage in my bios too @misty gyro

[misty gyro]

CLDO, and both VDDG

[abstract scaffold]

Ok yeah all 3 of those are next to each other

@misty gyro assuming that’s correct

[misty gyro]

Yes

[abstract scaffold]

That’s how the DOCP and speed is set up above

[misty gyro]

If that still doesn't work, there's a list of stuff to punch in next

[abstract scaffold]

Oh geez haha

[misty gyro]

DOCP looks right, and speed

If you still have issues here's a list #general-chat message

[abstract scaffold]

Would just lowering the speed a little bit work better? Still errors so I wonder if it’s like my@motherboard or something

Asus prime x470 pro latest bios so not sure, but maybe setting speed a step lower or something might be better?

So V SOC to 1.15v is ok? Mines at 1.1v now

[misty gyro]

Yes it's ok up to 1.2v or so

It just stops helping after a certain point

Lowering the speed is far from the ideal solution here, most b-die should be able to run 3800 with straight 14s so 3600 is supposed to be easy.

[abstract scaffold]

Weirdddd

Yeah I dnno what’s up with my memory since I have 850watt psu and decent motherboard

[misty gyro]

Worst case we bump a couple timings up if changing those resistances and settings doesn't work

[abstract scaffold]

Should I just try inputting all those settings on the list and seeing if it works? Lol

[misty gyro]

Couldn't hurt

[abstract scaffold]

I’ll have to try another night a bunch of those, Ram oc’ing is so time consuming so I understand why they created XMP profiles

I def appreciate your help for sure, helped to make me more knowledgeable

[misty gyro]

Happy to help
We've got a few experts here that can do even more than me, so if I'm not available someone else can help for sure

[abstract scaffold]

Awesome, yea it’s nice running into folks who know about this. It’s def a lot more helpful when you have someone to answer questions

[sick plume]

maybe try dialing back to 3600c16 if u still error

[misty gyro]

I'd do 16 on the other main timings before resorting to that

[abstract scaffold]

I’ll have to try that at some point, I tried turning the speed down to 3400c14 and still errors every 10 seconds or so, grr

It’s probably too tight of timings to go above 3200 with the settings I’m using without really specifying things

[misty gyro]

You could change tRAS from 31 to 34 also before you change other timings

[abstract scaffold]

Ok I’ll give that a try in a little bit. So if I wanted to lower all the timings it’d be something like 16-16-16-34? I don’t know what increments you want to get the numbers for those at

[misty gyro]

You still want tCL to be 14 if possible, that's the main primary timing

You can start going to like 14-15-15-34

[abstract scaffold]

Okay cool, so the CL 14 number is diff than the 14 in 14-15-15-34? Or it’s the same setting

[sick plume]

Can you download zen timings btw

and send us a pic

[misty gyro]

CL is the first number in a string like that

[abstract scaffold]

Ok that’s what I assumed

[sick plume]

https://zentimings.protonrom.com/

[abstract scaffold]

Ok

[sick plume]

also remember to run the bat file pinned in #windows-ios often if you care about ur windows install

[abstract scaffold]

What do you mean?

[sick plume]

unstable ram can completely delete a windows install

[abstract scaffold]

For real..?

[sick plume]

because of file corruptions

[misty gyro]

In the worst case it can

[abstract scaffold]

I’ve had issues with messing with Ram settings where I’ve had to remove the CMOS battery a few times to get my PC to just boot again

[sick plume]

it also damages the install pretty often and causes issues

[abstract scaffold]

Or just jump the pins, but once or twice I’ve had to remove the dam battery it’s annoying

[sick plume]

so yeah better to run the bat file thats pinned in #windows-ios

[abstract scaffold]

What does the bat file do?

[sick plume]

it scans for windows corruptions and fixes them

[abstract scaffold]

Nice ok so it’s ok to run it often ?

[sick plume]

yeah

[abstract scaffold]

Yeah my 3200mhx DOCP with 1.35v is totally stable no errors looks like at least

[sick plume]

wait do you have 2 seperate ram kits in the system?

[abstract scaffold]

No it’s the same team dark pro ram, tho I want to buy another set to fill all 4 dimm slots and get 32gb’s

Where’s this bat file in that channel?

[sick plume]

pins

top right

click the pin and you should see it

[abstract scaffold]

The top pinned comment by you?

[sick plume]

yeah

download the attached file and double click to run

itll ask for admin privilages you need to give those

and chrome might say file may be dangerous, but you ignore that

[abstract scaffold]

Haha hmm

[sick plume]

chrome thinks all bat files are dangerous

[abstract scaffold]

Indeed it does

[sick plume]

this is the kit that works?

no errors?

[misty gyro]

And exe, and msi, and sh...

[abstract scaffold]

Yeah I normally have DOCP set for cl14, 14-14-14-31 and 3200mhz and the DRAM voltage at 1.35v

[sick plume]

and java executables

[abstract scaffold]

lolll

the list keeps getting larger

running the .bat file now

[wild coral]

Hrethgir#7798 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[abstract scaffold]

what, doh.

[sick plume]

s word bad

use poop instead

or stuff

[abstract scaffold]

lol when poop starts breaking. Nice, handy stream of code there that's easy to execute

[sick plume]

yeah indeed

[abstract scaffold]

windows resource blah blah found corrupt files and successfully repaired them

no component store corruption detected, doing something with image blah blah

[sick plume]

yeah thats the ram

[abstract scaffold]

does clearing the CMOS battery do something similar with resetting things to default? Or does that just reset teh bios so you can start the dang PC again

[sick plume]

that just resets all the bios settings so the ram oc which was causing no boot because ram couldnt run it gets set back to default timings allowing u to boot

[abstract scaffold]

brb while this scans and fixes, I need some foods

[abstract scaffold]

ok got some noms, what was I doing again lol the scan completed and finsihed fixing issues

[misty gyro]

Changing timings? I think that was it

[abstract scaffold]

oh yeah need to try that, so many little things

[abstract scaffold]

I set the 31 to a 34 but got a blue screen at 1.5 dram voltage

[fading wyvern]

Woah a free nitro link 👀

[hot zephyr]

I keep seeing both of my displays reset to 60Hz

I don't notice it immediately since they only run at 75Hz usually, but this is very annoying.

Every time I have to do this: https://your-face.is-ne.at/5dwFzzyDm

And after a random time I check back and it's back to 60Hz.

[sick plume]

are you running an overclock on the display or is it a 75 hz display?

[hot zephyr]

The 1440p one I show on the screenshots was advertised as 75Hz, however it always defaults to 60Hz :/

I run another one, an ASUS 1080p display which I believe was advertised as 60Hz only. However I have it oc'd to 74.4999Hz and it runs great.

[sick plume]

and does taht one do the same thing?

[hot zephyr]

Funnily enough the 1440p one is the one that resets more often. Here I only had to fix the 1440p monitor's refresh rate; the ASUS one was fine.

This has never happened to me on Linux but sometimes I have to boot into Windows for building exe files and stuff.

[sick plume]

maybe set a custom 75hz option on ur 1440p panel in nvidia panel

[hot zephyr]

I do have that:

[sick plume]

hmm

[hot zephyr]

hmm indeed

I've tried reinstalling my graphics drivers with no luck.

[wild coral]

iamAngeloNuqui#7721 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

iamAngeloNuqui#7721 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[maiden wedge]

Can anyone help me out with picking a monitor?

I have this one in mind but was wondering if there is a newer version that is better? https://www.amazon.com/LG-34GP83A-B-Inch-Ultragear-Compatibility/dp/B08DWD38VX/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=7jnAr&pf_rd_p=8b894231-4b84-44da-9446-c27cf0e8abc2&pf_rd_r=TJ76Q4YQ8WXBKA51FD7C&pd_rd_r=97572a88-bd5d-401f-907a-2876c5f8231a&pd_rd_wg=3Gji0&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_d

[misty gyro]

That's a great choice if you can afford it. Rtings has it listed as "best ultrawide" and it's got really decent specs.

[quartz sandal]

For 800$ I'd sure hope its the best 😓

[lime quartz]

best monitor 140 dollar?!

send links pls!!!

[paper raven]

@lime quartz can you do $180 Usd?

[lime quartz]

nope!

150 at most..

[paper raven]

Damn, cheapest 144hz monitor is 175

Do you need 144hz? Or can you go with 75 or something

[lime quartz]

dont need 144hz

[paper raven]

Ok

[lime quartz]

75 or 60 both work..

[paper raven]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9fVG3C/asus-va24ehe-238-1920x1080-75-hz-monitor-90lm0560-b011b0

Asus 1080p monitor, ips pannel, 75hz, 1ms response time

Seems good to me, its $144 usd

[lime quartz]

ty man!

anybody have objections to!?

[sterile crane]

should 144hz ips panel(non curved) for 182 euros or 165hz (curved) va panel for 236 euros

im looking to play fps games

[celest lark]

I need to grab replacement screws for the benq zowie xl2411p where would I go to find them?

[quartz sandal]

144hz to 165hz is negligible difference

[sterile crane]

Which means what should i buy?

[quartz sandal]

Depends if you want curved or not

[sterile crane]

It would be cool but i dont really need it much

[clear topaz]

Can I use a VGA to HDMI adapter and connect it to my PC or would I need more than just a cable for that?

[raw ingot]

Yes, but it has to be a good one

Bad ones are jank

[noble current]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTlflVrhmzE

[fading wyvern]

M28u still on top

[jade spoke]

I’m looking for a wall mount for a Samsung 49” ultra wide monitor any suggestions? It’s a Vesa mount.

[visual pilot]

And still out of stock >:(

[visual pilot]

Vesa 100x100 or different one?

[jade spoke]

Yes 100x100, mainly looking for tilt.

[fading wyvern]

[noble current]

hello monitors experts. I'm bored and can't decided what monitor to get for my next PC. I know that pato and others recommend the M27Q. I could get the M27Q. But I don't want got get a new monitor later when 1440P 144hz is bare minimum. Besides the M27Q I thought of the Gigabyte AORUS FI27Q-X or HP 27-X Omen or Asus ROG Swift PG279QM(I know is 899, that be my last option) I don't have much space that's why 27" is the size. I got a 3080ti and a i9 10990K

[visual pilot]

What games do you play

[noble current]

I play mostly Arma3,HLL, gtav and more games I can't play atm. RDR2

my list is big mr11

[visual pilot]

Those aren't really sounding like games that benefit from 240hz

[visual pilot]

Perhaps M28U next for 4k144hz :D

Once it is in stock*

[noble current]

I was thinking on that too. as an alternative

[visual pilot]

Also, 10990k...?

10980xe?

[noble current]

I mostly play shooters 1st or 3rd, some slash like darksiders , racing too mostly F1 ets2 and american truck simulator

its is a 10900k

[lime quartz]

best 150 USD monitor?!

send links pls <3!!!

[noble current]

? @lime quartz

[lime quartz]

what is confusing

@noble current

[noble current]

your message is too broad. Need size and is 1080P.

[lime quartz]

1080p..

size does not really matter as long as its not like 10 inches

60hz+

75hz would be nice if possible

or whatever 150 could buy

mostly gaming

[misty gyro]

If you can do $170-180 you could get MSI G242 or G241, 144Hz and nice overall

[lime quartz]

dont think my pc would be getting use out of the 144hz for most games i play

its a bit unnecessary for now

[fading wyvern]

It’s better to spend a bit extra now to save some down the road when you do want a 144hz monitor

[noble current]

So @visual pilot You really think I should get the M28U. Instead getting FI27Q-X, HP 27X or PG279QM?

or just forget it and get the M27Q?

[maiden wedge]

Im looking for a curved 32 inch monitor, 144hz, 2k resolution 1ms. Im torn between the MSI 32 inch and the samsung odyssey (samsung being more expensive). Im wondering why its more expensive and if there are better option out there. Can anyone help me make my final decision?

[raw ingot]

go with g32qc from gigabyte instead

curved, 165hz and 1440p

fits your bill

[maiden wedge]

Whats the cost?

Thank you! 🙂

[raw ingot]

it's about

300 or so?

iirc

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0926ZVM75/ref=cm_sw_r_awdo_navT_g_JJ9NTAYH17JS8BV4F0QT

329

[visual pilot]

I really don't think you'll gain much from 240hz considering the games

[quiet spear]

whats a good portable hotspot

[quiet spear]

165 vs 240 = small difference unless competitive shooter

[noble current]

Alright. I'll get the M27Q. I just didn't want to upgrade later when 165hz is not enough.

[quartz sandal]

Just keep in mind m28u is 4k m27q is 1440p

[noble current]

Pato(like your new name) I know that. I just don't know if I can see in 4k resolution some of the games. like in HLL is a bit hard to see enemies sometimes.

[sick plume]

More pixels=enemies take more room on the screen

[noble current]

ok. I may have to see a 4k monitor. I'm in 1080P

[sick plume]

More pixels = less fps too unless ur very very cpu bottlenecked

4k not worth it in a shooter game at native on anything under a 3080ti

[noble current]

i have a 3080ti w a 10990k

[quartz sandal]

Imo 28" too small for 4k btw

[noble current]

😟

I can't have 32. my space is a bit small in my apartment

[quartz sandal]

Then get 1440p imo

[warped night]

Get 1440p in general.

It's the best of both worlds

Better quality than 1080p, Better framerate than 4K

4K IMO isn't going to be fully viable until the XX60 cards from Nvidia are able to hit ~100 FPS in most AAA titles without DLSS (I like DLSS, but not every game supports it, so it isn't really easily taken into account)

[maiden wedge]

GIGABYTE G32QC 32" 165Hz 1440P Curved Gaming Monitor, 2560 x 1440 VA 1500R Display, 1ms (MPRT) Response Time, 94% DCI-P3, VESA Display HDR400, FreeSync Premium Pro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088P87LHX/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_JQQH8QQZ85F6DNPC77JH?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

GIGABYTE G32QC A (32" 165Hz 1440P Curved Gaming Monitor, 2560 x 1440 VA 1500R Display, 1ms (MPRT) Response Time, 93% DCI-P3, VESA Display HDR400, FreeSync Premium Pro https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0926ZVM75/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_AGJGFBAEQ7ATHMBS8737

Whats the difference between the two? Ones listed as a newer model but is less expensive

[raw ingot]

Just a refresh

[noble current]

ok thank you all. I'll get the M27Q then. See how it goes

[maiden wedge]

i cant find a 350-400 dollar 30 inch monitor without scary reviews help

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Monitor-Display-Response-FreeSync/dp/B0968QT6SS/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

i looked at this

[noble current]

@maiden wedge https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m32q or try hardware unboxed

[blissful pulsar]

Hi anyone had issues mounting g242 Msi optix to vesa mounts?

The mount doesn’t fit in the back slot

[wary wave]

@blissful pulsar i had somewhat similar issue with my Gigabyte M27Q. only thing that i can say is try and find another vesa mount with a better shape to fit. I found a mount from North Bayou which had a smaller square mount which fit perfectly compared to my other mounts.

obv buying a whole other mount would cost a bit but you might be able to find just the backplate itself and you can try and swap out the backplates for the mounts to another one that might fit

[blissful pulsar]

@wary wave thanks, I’ll take a look at that. I might need to look for spacers.

[wooden veldt]

Anyone has a good 32" 1440p gaming monitor to recommand

For like 500CAD$

[raw ingot]

gigabyte m32q and g32qc

m32q is non curved

g32qc is

[wooden veldt]

Mh okay

But are they like almost the same

[raw ingot]

yes

[flint stirrup]

Hey, from a monetary standpoint, is 4K (2160p) resolution easier to obtain if I go for a TV or monitor?

I've seen the monitors go for higher than the TVs.

[fading wyvern]

well the m28u is a new 4k like 600? $ monitor but tvs are generally cheaper

[flint stirrup]

Yeah, that was why I aimed for a TV, which can be obtained for under $200.

[maiden wedge]

get a tv the size of a entire wall

[flint stirrup]

Are those that inexpensive?

Maybe I can attach it to my wall.

In my bedroom.

I find it interesting that the huge ones are more affordable.

[misty gyro]

It's a bit of an exaggeration, wall size TVs are still very expensive

[flint stirrup]

lol

[misty gyro]

But you can get something like a 32" size for around there

[flint stirrup]

That was what I was aiming for.

Any particular stores?

[misty gyro]

US?

[flint stirrup]

32", 4K, under 200 USD?

Yeah America

[raw ingot]

200

yeah no

[flint stirrup]

didn't think so

I was trying to get this in cash.

[raw ingot]

it's not that cheap for a 4k

[flint stirrup]

Will it take longer to go down?

As in, by the time it gets replaced.

1080p became the norm after being special for a bit.

[misty gyro]

Like is it expected to have a longer lifespan? Or 4k lifespan?

[flint stirrup]

Commercial lifespan for both.

[raw ingot]

4k isn't gonna be a norm for anytime soon

[flint stirrup]

Will 1440p become the norm soon?

I can settle for 1440p.

[misty gyro]

Physically no, TVs and monitors of similar quality levels will have about the same life span

[flint stirrup]

So what does the monitor do special compared to a TV?

Is it just the form factor?

[misty gyro]

Different inputs and features

[flint stirrup]

o o f

[raw ingot]

Monitors are better for well, pc stuff

They generally have better response times too

[flint stirrup]

I thought you can use them as though they're interchangeable.

[raw ingot]

And monitors has higher refresh rate

[flint stirrup]

Response time won't be a huge deal with a daily driver with pixel gaming as the side perk.

[raw ingot]

In many models

[errant edge]

I mean yes but no

[flint stirrup]

lmao

[errant edge]

They both display

[flint stirrup]

👀

[misty gyro]

There's 4k120Hz TVs now, which is insane

[raw ingot]

Insane price too

[flint stirrup]

nani

[maiden wedge]

ejwaoto twhot

[flint stirrup]

the hecc

[maiden wedge]

wait what

[errant edge]

But monitors are better for pcs, and imo a 1440p 27in would probably be fine for you

[raw ingot]

^

[maiden wedge]

my brain just CRASHD

[flint stirrup]

4k with a 120Hz refresh rate?

yeah i can do 1440p

[misty gyro]

Yes

For consoles

[maiden wedge]

bruh tonight is one of those nights where u grab ur thin crust local grocery store pizza from the kitchen let ur legs play slinky down the stairs hoping to not fall down them eat half ur pizza and not wake up till 5 pm

feel me

[flint stirrup]

So i could use a 1440p TV for Switch and PC and do fine?

[errant edge]

Keep in mind with a 1030 you won't do much gaming, especially at 1440p, but I'm guessing thats not what you're trying to accomplish

Just get a regular 1440p 27in monitor

[flint stirrup]

yeah the gaming's not the point

[misty gyro]

There aren't any 1440p TVs

[visual pilot]

m27q :D

[errant edge]

You can use your switch with a monitor too

[flint stirrup]

i do that on switch 🙂

[visual pilot]

1440p really wasn't a popular resolution for TVs

[errant edge]

No point for non gaming, a 60hz would make more sense

Save money

Budget is 200$ I think

[flint stirrup]

is it kinda like how 480p wasn't a big deal except for the wii?

[visual pilot]

Non-gaming eh, gon be fun

[flint stirrup]

i can always do a smaller resolution for games

while working on stuff

if i want to multitask during a cutscene zoom meeting

[cyan jungle]

u aint gonna be seeing shroud tapping heads on a wii

[flint stirrup]

no i meant at the time 480p was around

but nintendo's weird

[misty gyro]

I mean... 480p was on the GameCube and ps2

[flint stirrup]

oh so it was a sixth-gen thing

i could only get 480i on gc

because mine doesn't have a component port

[misty gyro]

You need an aftermarket cable

[flint stirrup]

that too

i use my wii as a gc

[misty gyro]

I have one of those multi cables with both composite and component options that splits into Nintendo / playstation / xbox connectors

[flint stirrup]

amaze

the gc one also works on snes and n64

while the ps connector works nicely on the first three playstations

not sure if the xborig and 360 ones are the same, never bothered with xbox

[misty gyro]

When you have the component cable in, GameCube games will start asking about progressive mode. That switches from interlaced (480i) to progressive (480p)

[flint stirrup]

yeah mine always assumes interlace

the component port for gc is not the same one as the snes

n64 doesn't even have one iirc

n64 does only composite

[misty gyro]

Correct

[flint stirrup]

unless you mod it for component or hdmi

but who would destroy the aspect ratio for something meant to be played on a crt

[misty gyro]

Or get one of the remade consoles with native 1080p upscale

[flint stirrup]

the fpga ones?

or the professionally modded / souped up?

[misty gyro]

There's better ones than that

[flint stirrup]

as in the original mobo?

i know those

my favorite on paper are the tiny handhelds (like the funkey s) that can play up to ps1, sometimes n64

but they seem impractical

[misty gyro]

They aren't just running an emulator, it has the original form factor with more outputs and a brand new pcb from reverse engineering the old, adding a faster processor and upscale

[flint stirrup]

that's amazing

i'll look into that myself

but i know what you mean

[misty gyro]

You could use your original cartridge

[flint stirrup]

i like flashcarts

the glorified sd reader everdrives

[silent epoch]

https://www.pcgamer.com/this-360hz-alienware-gaming-monitor-is-under-half-price-at-dell-right-now/

[quartz sandal]

Wow wonder why it's on 50% sale :o

[misty gyro]

Probably marked up so they can mark it down, 1080p for $900 lol

[quartz sandal]

Lmao

[wary wave]

if thats the one im thinking of that i talked about in tech deals that one time, with honey gold cash back it comes down to like $330 or something like that

which even though if they did mark it up to mark down to make it look like a bigger sale, $330 for a 360hz monitor is pretty good

imo

[quartz sandal]

330 is a nice price but 900$ wth

[wary wave]

nvm, roughly $365. doubled check but still, roughly $365 pretty good for a 360hz monitor

think asus is the next cheapest at like $700 or so for a 360hz monitor

[quartz sandal]

Whyyy

[wary wave]

because 360hz

sooner or later though prices will go down hopefully

rn its pretty much only alienware, asus and acer that make 360hz monitor so they pretty much control the market and keep pricing high

same goes for high refresh 1440p monitors

240hz+ 1440p monitors are also in the 700+ range though i guess some people could justify paying that much for 1440p over 1080p

[quartz sandal]

Still too much imo for a 1080p 360hz, like 500$ i could understand

[fading wyvern]

Honestly love the style of Alienwares monitors. 1080p 360hz is great for any esports. 🤷‍♂️

[paper raven]

Bro Allen ware products in general just look cool, especially their monitors

[summer tiger]

they are mutually exclusive with both kidneys though

[sick plume]

Allen ware is nice

Alienware pcs suck tho

[fading wyvern]

Dell kinda stinky heard their server stuff is alright tho

[quartz sandal]

Yeah dell have nice servers but their desktops are bad, some are okay at best

[wary wave]

their monitors dell/alienware is pretty good, its just their pricing is kinda wack unless they have a sale

[steel ridge]

Dell servers have wack pricing

[misty gyro]

Dell everything has wack pricing

But they offer bulk discounts on workstations and usually recommend low end stuff unless otherwise requested by the business.

[sharp valley]

Looking to build my gaming office and want to get a couple monitors for my set up. Can't decide if I want to get a large 34" ish curved or two of these 27" msi. Anyone know from experience which would be better?
https://www.costco.com/msi-optix-27"-class-fhd-ips-gaming-monitor.product.100805677.html

[quartz sandal]

Well i wouldn't want to get them in 1080p anyway would look a good bit pixelated, I'd recommend 1440p if you're gpu can handle it

[nova agate]

why are monitor hertz andy's so elitist? everytime i bring up that i prefer resolution over FPS i am told i have issues and am crazy for not preferring 144hz monitors over 4K monitors

like does every console player have issues for being fine with 30fps?

and that 60hz monitors are like the stone age now, ive been a pc gamer for a bit and i know getting more than 60hz monitors wasnt a topic basically at all around 2015

[quartz sandal]

This is very much untrue, I've had my 144hz monitor for probs 5 years now and i wasn't an early adaptor at all, idk if you were in the wrong scenes to just not see it but 144hz monitors have been a thing good bit before 2015

[fading wyvern]

As a monitor hertz Andy I believe I accept all numbers of hertz from 60-360

It really depends on preference and people shouldn’t judge too much, typically in here we use the M27q as a great all rounder monitor. 1440p better then 1080 and a high refresh rate while still being cheap. Generally games just feel a little bit better on higher refresh rates. All preferences man

[quartz sandal]

I think we can all agree that 30hz is absolutely rancid tho

https://tenor.com/view/disgust-cringe-shudder-gif-14748286

[fading wyvern]

As a footnote it also seriously depends on the type of game you’re playing. Flight sims, racing games rts games and like rpg fantasies are all about just the environment don’t really need that 144hz edge that fps games ‘need’.

[quartz sandal]

Also for 4k you really need to go up in size over 32" imho, 1440p is the best of both worlds atm

[fading wyvern]

Ah a weird argument can also be made about people hating on low refresh rates, it’s extremely hard to go back to 60hz after playing around with high refresh rate monitors and hardware that actually uses them. 👀

Feels kinda gross and icky might be a bit of a elitist I guess

[quartz sandal]

It does

[quartz sandal]

For some reason once, my overwatch settings had set to 50hz display and it deadass looked like a slideshow

[naive basalt]

Even worse when your phone is 120 Hz :)

[nova agate]

I am kind of glad I haven't gone past 60hz (cause I wanted 27" 4K like 3 years ago without a huge budget) cause I haven't got to the point where less than 60FPS looks like a slideshow like spoopy said, it doesn't look like a slideshow to me but I bet it would if I used a high hertz monitor for awhile, and I play visual games like singleplayer games not competitive games where the 144 fps is more directed too. I really like how 4K looks so I'm glad I can play games like cyberpunk max settings and not be completely put off by less than 60FPS

I have the LG 27UD68-P when it was available it was really affordable.. like $300, compared to the rest of the 4K monitors, it gets the job done and has an IPS display, only issue I've had with it is image retention on the left and right sides of the screen, like there will be a faint image of the youtube logo after watching videos for awhile but it goes away quick with video, so full screen video or game, so its not a problem at all when gaming

[quartz sandal]

Why 27" 4k?? 1440p is an option and it's better than 1080p but not as stressful on gpu as 4k, and 4k 27" just too small to tell difference between that and 1440p, at least in my opinion

Also playing games at 60fps isn't down to monitor as high refresh monitors will have gsync /freesync for that

I mean you do you but ye

[nova agate]

Idk, I can tell the difference between 1440p and 4K when I switch between it, I wanted to be able to watch movies and stuff in 4K and game in 1080p at the time and then I upgraded my PC and can play 4K games with it, I also wasn't really very much of a critical thinker back then and bought whatever

[wild coral]

Dapro#3297 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[nova agate]

And I have a 3080 so it being stressful on the GPU isn't a problem, I realize I should upgrade my monitor, this is a pretty bad monitor tbh, 5ms response time, its more so for movies and photo editing, but yeh, I really like 4K, even over 1440p, so my issue for upgrading is finding a high refresh rate 4K monitor that isn't crazy expensive

[quartz sandal]

fair enough

yeah 4k spensive

[nova agate]

yeh im looking right now, 144hz 4k is $1k+

[quartz sandal]

ooh

its not that bad

[nova agate]

oh

well they were also showing really big ones so

[quartz sandal]

m28u (still to small for 4k imo but anyway) is 650$

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#r=384002160&D=100000,360000&sort=price&page=1

[nova agate]

i always forget about price checking with that site, thats still probs more than i am willing to pay for one, might just get a good 4K tv for the games i want to play in 4K and a 144hz for my desk

its worth the more money in the end cause i want a 4k tv so i dont have to watch 4k stuff at my desk

idk about getting a monitor bigger than 27" cause ur desk would have to be so big and have to have it so far away in order to not have eyestrain

[carmine bloom]

I got a 43" 4k 144hz monitor ;P

[errant edge]

how much of a dent in the wallet did that leave you with?

[carmine bloom]

it was less than 1k on sale

[errant edge]

wow

[carmine bloom]

Aorus FV43U is only 1,049$ when its not on sale.

[errant edge]

wow

x2

[carmine bloom]

Same price as the Samsung Ultrawide

https://www.aorus.com/monitors/AORUS-FV43U/Specification

[verbal spear]

anyone here knows if a vga output monitor can be connected to a pc with just hdmi?

anyone?🥲🥲

[fading wyvern]

Can always get a vga to hdmi cable

[quiet spear]

Usd?

[maiden wedge]

i need a 30-28 inch monitor amazon canada/newegg canada only maximum budget 400 cad i need help reviews be scaring me hard

[raw ingot]

M27Q, not quite 28 but eh

[maiden wedge]

ill take a look

i dont like it

[maiden wedge]

what do u think of this https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08N5GS4K2/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB&psc=1

i dont really got a idea how big that actually is tho

[raw ingot]

eh

I wouldn't do it myself

[quartz sandal]

Why not?

[quartz sandal]

30" 1080p is gonna look pretty pixelated

[raw ingot]

^

low ppi

[misty gyro]

Not quite that simple. VGA is analog and HDMI is digital so you need an active converter.

[maiden wedge]

i need halp then

this is what i currently have @raw ingot

[clear temple]

the MSI Optix MAG241MVC 24" Full HD 1920 x 1080 144 Hz 2x HDMI, DisplayPort, USB 2.0 AMD FreeSync Curved Gaming Monitor seems way too cheap for 144hz, is it a good moniter

[crystal zephyr]

Huh. One of my friends broke my MacBooks screen. That’s sad

[clear temple]

187 dollars ( 700 sar)

other budget gaming moniters are like 293 (1100 sar)

i use sar in my countery

[maiden wedge]

are you competitve gamer

and what is your budget

[leaden barn]

what 1080p 24" 144 or 165 hz monitor would you recommend me for $150-$225?

[quartz sandal]

Msi g241/g242

[leaden barn]

what is the difference between the g241 and the g242?

[quartz sandal]

Minor refresh

[leaden barn]

so the g242 would be the better one?

[quartz sandal]

Slightly but whichever is cheaper

[leaden barn]

ah ok

thanks

[quartz sandal]

Np

[clear temple]

not competitive but i want to experience higher refresh rate

btw if 144 makes 60 hurt ur eyes, why doesnt looking at real life hurt ur eyes when u start ur pc

[raw ingot]

irl isn't 60 fps tho

there's no fps in irl

[fading wyvern]

Irl is infinite refresh/hz

[raw ingot]

^

[maiden wedge]

1000hz

[fading wyvern]

Well I mean it’s however fast your eyes refresh plus the speed of light and how quickly your nerves work

Then ontop of that your brain makes up information to fill in the gaps you’re not focusing on

[sage trail]

ion think your eyes "refresh"

its more analog than that, ya kno

[fading wyvern]

Well it’s a lot of just interpreting light

[raw ingot]

yep

[sage trail]

its how fast can your brain process changes in light

[fading wyvern]

But like tons of processing also goes into it

[maiden wedge]

👀

[misty gyro]

Makes you wonder if the world would look different if we could "see" its true form and not what your brain decided it looks like

[sage trail]

i hate that you said that

[fading wyvern]

Hell everyone probably has a slightly different version of color and the world. But at least we can all agree the M27q is the best bang for the buck monitor.

[carmine bloom]

Decided to test my luck with a refurbished monitor on newegg. Having good luck with Gigabyte and wanted to try an ultrawide lol. got the G34WQC. 3440x1440p, 144hz, 34" Curved, HDR400. Hopefully was a good purchase e.e

[raw ingot]

nice

[carmine bloom]

Yee

[clear temple]

what i mean if irl is infinite fps why looking at ur 60hz doesnt hurt

[sick plume]

Irl isnt infinite fps

Its a large number that no one knows of

But its very finite

[raw ingot]

^

[raw ingot]

your eyes or brain doesn't have anything to render lol

it just processes the light

and 60 fps doesn't look bad cause it's fast enough for our eyes to see it as smooth

your point is odd ngl

[sick plume]

24 fps is when images stop being images and become video

[raw ingot]

^

[clear temple]

then why looking at 144 then 60 hz hurt

i dont meaning looking at rl hurt i mean looking at 60hz

[raw ingot]

ah

it's your brain gettin used to it

[silent epoch]

distracted. on it

[quartz sandal]

Monitor buying guide:
1080p: Msi G241 or Msi G242 whichever is cheaper/in stock
1440p: Gigabyte M27Q for non curved, Gigabyte G27QC for curved
4k : Gigabyte M28U (too small for 4k imo but nice) or or Gigabyte M32U or Gigabyte AORUS FI32U

There ya go

[silent epoch]

looking for a very detailed review

for the g242

suggestions?

[quartz sandal]

Ugh fine

[silent epoch]

AOC 24g2 is similar in specs according to rtring...mmmmm

[quartz sandal]

Dont think it's out yet

M28u is tho

But dumb size for 4k imo

[silent epoch]

its flat

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/aoc/24g2

there is a curved option as well

[quartz sandal]

Rombo combo

4k done

Just added

Didn't think was in stock, damm pcpp

[silent epoch]

the human eye only sees OUT OF STOCK

[quartz sandal]

Lol

Guide in short, g241 1080p, 1440p above, ips gigabyte kek

[silent epoch]

https://www.monitornerds.com/msi-g241-review/

[quartz sandal]

Ugh

Sorry google annoying

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/m32u

[silent epoch]

mhhmm

[quartz sandal]

German uwu?

ÖwÖ

[silent epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-kill-fuego-matar-incendiar-gif-5307315

[quartz sandal]

Literally

[errant edge]

toasted peanuts

[sage trail]

😬

[molten vault]

dont hit the link

[fading wyvern]

What happened here

[carmine bloom]

4k FV43U* js ;P

[noble current]

So what bout M32Q 1440P 165hz vs M32U? 4k 140hz?

[coral path]

Should i go with this? https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824281135?Description=XG349C 34&cm_re=XG349C_34-_-24-281-135-_-Product&quicklink=true

or

https://www.newegg.com/black-samsung-odyssey-g7-lc32g75tqsnxza-32/p/N82E16824022816?Item=N82E16824022816

[raw ingot]

none of those

[coral path]

why?

[raw ingot]

get m32q instead

or u32

both gigabyte

they're much cheaper

while being as good

[coral path]

hmm im not sure with gigabyte atm

[raw ingot]

they're good

the ones i mentioned at least

[coral path]

i do however have the 27q version with 1.4dp which is great but had some white spots but barely noticcable

[raw ingot]

normal for ips

it's called ips glow

and lcd does have backlight glow

[coral path]

im looking for more of a 1.4dp

[raw ingot]

the ones i mentioned does have dp 1.4

[coral path]

m32q didnt

[raw ingot]

it does?

amazon page says displayport 1.4

and 2x hdmi 2.0

[coral path]

m32u have 1.4 but the m32q

im looking at newgg version

[raw ingot]

m32q does indeed have 1.4

they just didn't list it

[coral path]

not dp1.4

[raw ingot]

weird

[coral path]

thats gigabyte website itself

[raw ingot]

it's probably updated somewhere down the line

[coral path]

yep its false also for my G27QC it showed 1.4 on newgg but 1.2dp on gigabytes website

thx tho, il still keep looking

[quartz sandal]

sure they bombed making a psu but they make some great monitors

[fading wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/gigabyte-psu-gamers-nexus-pc-bomb-planted-gif-22845602

[quartz sandal]

Did csgo get a new graphics update?

[raw ingot]

yep

[leaden barn]

still looks the same on my integrated graphics and on very low settings :(

[maiden wedge]

https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-27GN750-B-Compatibility-Adjustable/dp/B0841787BZ/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=ThkRO&pf_rd_p=8b894231-4b84-44da-9446-c27cf0e8abc2&pf_rd_r=PNW1VGW0F6HHY98KSAMB&pd_rd_r=db801cce-dba8-401a-a635-6be213f0473f&pd_rd_wg=XhjYj&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_d&th=1

should I gets

290$ rn

[raw ingot]

nope

m27q instead for that price

otherwise msi optix g241/242

[visual pilot]

Well, its 1080p240

so it's a different catagory of monitors

@maiden wedge IPS 1080p240 alternatives:
250$ S2522HG https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-25-gaming-monitor-s2522hg/apd/210-azzo/
280$ AW2521HF https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087N4LQPN

[maiden wedge]

both are 24 inch 😦

[visual pilot]

27in bad pixel density for 1080p

[blazing current]

is 1080p 360 Hz Moniter better then 1440p 270 hz monitor

[sick plume]

Depends on what gpu and cpu

And cost

And what exact panel

[quartz sandal]

Unless you exclusively play competitive csgo/valorant at 360fps at least then no, if yes then it depends still on the exact monitors

[maiden wedge]

so you are telling me

27 is bad

for playing games

[visual pilot]

It looks bad

Whether bad or not for games, dunno, depends on you

[maiden wedge]

should I get this instead?

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-VG259QM-Compatible-DisplayHDR-DisplayPort/dp/B0876KP2CK/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=24.5%2Bips&qid=1635874092&qsid=138-2602135-8389958&sr=8-6&sres=B08FF6DJNP%2CB07WVN6CWT%2CB087GCFMS1%2CB0876KP2CK%2CB08XWKCC68%2CB095TVWL6M%2CB0945FB39H%2CB08FF8H42N%2CB087N4LQPN%2CB088VMY23M%2CB08GL5TJQT%2CB087GTR74D%2CB08K2GYHD8%2CB087QRW81Z%2CB09BJVGK92%2CB08MPXVTK4&srpt=MONITOR&th=1

[visual pilot]

Your choice out of those 3

[fading wyvern]

long link

[hot zephyr]

I'd like to mount an old monitor of mine vertically. Is there a cheap stand out there for that? I seem to only find those expensive ($50+) fancy arms.

I don't need adjustment or anything fancy, just for it to stand up vertically next to my other monitors.

[maiden wedge]

Alienware 240Hz Gaming Monitor 24.5 Inch Full HD Monitor with IPS Technology, Dark Gray - Dark Side of the Moon - AW2521HF

[maiden wedge]

if uj dont wanna click it

its that

also its 280$

theres also a 280hz one for 300$

[visual pilot]

I was talking about 2 here

[unkempt plover]

hey can someone send me some budget gaming monitor choice? 144hz under 200$ because most of the cheap prices i know rocketed

[quartz sandal]

Msi g241 or g242

[misty gyro]

Does this old monitor have vesa mounting holes? If not you're kinda stuck and will need to custom build a mount

[hot zephyr]

The manual says it can be mounted with VESA 100x100mm

It's an ASUS VP228

[misty gyro]

Wall or desk clamp mount?

[misty gyro]

Desk clamp
ErGear Monitor Mount for 13-32" Computer Screens, Improved LCD/LED Monitor Riser, Height/Angle Adjustable Single Desk Mount Stand,Holds up to 17.6lbs, Black - EGCM12 https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B0859J9FYY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_NM3YZRB111YY3G4NC8TF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

Wall mount
Mounting Dream Full Motion Monitor Wall Mount TV Bracket for 10-26 Inch LED, LCD Flat Screen TV and Monitor, TV Mount with Swivel Articulating Arm, Monitor Mount Up to VESA 100x100mm and 33LBS MD2463 https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00ZKFRKIU/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_5Y7VT86NT0C3W7WZJNJB

[hot zephyr]

Oh thanks! That looks very affordable.

I've never used wall or desk clamp mounts. I've always just used the "foot" that comes with the monitor.

Do you think I'd be better off with a wall/desk mount than a "foot" mount?

[misty gyro]

The stand mounts won't be any better tbh, they'll still risk wobbling and such. Personally I don't like drilling into my wall so I'd go with a desk clamp. Just look for ones people say are stable.

If you have an especially heavy or otherwise large monitor, wall mount is always more stable and more weight limit

[hot zephyr]

It's pretty small so I think I can get away with a desk clamp mount.

Thanks for the info! I think I'll buy the one you linked.

[maiden wedge]

i just ordered the alienware monitor that is on sale

[wary wave]

theres a few on sale

which one?

i presume the 360hz 25" one

[maiden wedge]

oh thats out of my price range

im still saving up for my pc

I got the 240hz for 280$

AW2521HF

[maiden wedge]

Excited but when I get it I will need to wait 3 weeks

[visual pilot]

3 weeks seem really long for shipping

[hot zephyr]

Apparently this is the cheapest one (37 EUR shipped) on French Amazon. How scammed am I getting? https://www.amazon.fr/Single-Monitor-Adjustable-Articulating-Screen/dp/B00B21TLQU/

As well as this one for 27 EUR shipped: https://www.leboncoin.fr/informatique/2049091798.htm

[maiden wedge]

Its actually coming tmrw

By amazon. I have a laptop that won't run 240hz. In 3 weeks I'm getting my pc.

[misty gyro]

This one looks good to me, but the second one is lacking in details and only has one too-close picture

[hot zephyr]

Sorry I meant price-wise. The first one is twice the price of the one from amazon.com you shared.

[carmine bloom]

My ultrawide showed up early!

[misty gyro]

If that's the cheapest there is then there's probably a reason. Import fees being passed on to you and such.

[hot zephyr]

hrm I guess :/

I miss the US.

[carmine bloom]

GIGABYTE G34WQC 34 is the one I went with 😄 cause it was less than 400$

[quartz sandal]

@hot zephyr if youre in eu, also check amazon spain, netherlands, germany and italy, they all ship eu

[unkempt plover]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08D3Y5PFZ/ref=srdp?keywords=monitor%2B165hz%2B1ms%2Baoc&srpt=MONITOR&sres=B08D3Y5PFZ%2CB08LZ3FMFW%2CB09B2W41LR%2CB08FFWDHBJ%2CB09DJ1VCQN%2CB08G3LXB5C%2CB088MKHW7M%2CB08Z38L765%2CB07KGMQGDT%2CB095VSC3KG%2CB08K2DSMJV%2CB095J68CKG%2CB08XMZYP81%2CB08LLF9NS1%2CB08MVBYWGQ%2CB07P7RWHYL%2CB08F3QXLGL%2CB088VMY23M%2CB07XV1519W%2CB08DLC9HBG&qsid=138-9458855-4184655
or
https://www.amazon.com/24MV1Y-Pbmiipx-Monitor-FreeSync-Technology/dp/B091G49KSZ/ref=asc_df_B091G49KSZ/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=524539433517&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12831630321852332754&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9025129&hvtargid=pla-1338090488301&psc=1
which one is a better deal im on a budget for a second monitor, the first one is adjustable

[mellow fossil]

I finally figured out why my monitor randomly was dimming itself

Anyone with an ASUS monitor make sure to turn of ASCR

something about smart contrast ratio so like when your screen is displaying a light color it becomes brighter but in dark areas it dims itself

[supple plank]

Is nvidia g sync something to consider?

[wary wave]

no unless you really need it for something specific but for the most part freesync is fine

and even freesync isnt really something to consider depending on what youre doing

[supple plank]

Just gaming. I have the option of returning my monitors for newer ones but the only difference is its newer and the g-sync

[fading wyvern]

If it’s just a free upgrade go for it

[balmy abyss]

Hey i bought Acer Nitro monitor 75hz
It shows 74.983hz something like that but 60hz is shown ok ,is it normal or ?

[fading wyvern]

It’s normal

[verbal spear]

anyone here knows if vga to hdmi works with graphics card?

[quartz sandal]

Yes an adapter will do it

[verbal spear]

does dp port to vga works as well?

[quartz sandal]

You can convert any of them with the right adapter

[versed hornet]

The laptop I want to buy does not have an HDMI port. It has Thunderbolt 4 tho. Here's my (probably) dumb question: Can I connect my monitor (HDMI) to the Thunderbolt port and play video games on it? What sort of adapter would I use? (I've read that docking stations are crap for playing video games on external monitors)

[hot zephyr]

I believe it depends on whether the Thunderbolt port is connected directly to the GPU. If it's an nvidia laptop, you can check in the nvidia control panel iirc.

[versed hornet]

It't an MSI

[visual pilot]

What GPU is in the laptop? NVidia GPU, AMD GPU, AMD iGPU, Intel iGPU, Intel dGPU?

[graceful tree]

just tried ocing my 1024x600 60hz portable monitor... capable of doing 200hz with a single usb port for power lol

[errant edge]

hwat

[graceful tree]

210hz made half the screen black and the other half glitchy white lines

but 200hz worked perfectly

decided to try after seeing some guy on reddit pushed a similar 1024x600 60hz portable monitor to 240hz

his is better than mine lol

im definitely not gonna run it at that long term tho, just a fun test

afraid of burning out the backlight or overloading the usb port or something

anyways, i want to downclock it since i just run a 15 fps wallpaper on it

would it be safe to run it at 30hz long term?

[hot zephyr]

:o

[graceful tree]

i don't know a lot about monitor downclocking

i know that i tried 15hz and it got messed up

[hot zephyr]

It should be yeah. It'll just use less power.

[graceful tree]

so that makes me a bit hesitant to assume downclocking is 100% safe

but maybe 15hz is just too extreme lol

at 15hz 1/3 of the screen went black while the other 2/3 continued working

[versed hornet]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060

[visual pilot]

You should be able to check it in Nvidia control panel then

nvcp for short

[versed hornet]

I don't have the laptop (MSI Creator Z16) yet... i'm hoping to buy it... but not if I can't plug it into an external monitor.

[graceful tree]

my msi gp66 leopard has hdmi and displayport

[visual pilot]

It has 2 usb-c thunderbolt 4 ports according to MSI
https://us.msi.com/Content-Creation/Creator-Z16-A11UX/Specification

[versed hornet]

right... but can you plug a monitor into those ports?

[graceful tree]

can do displayport over usb-c/thunderbolt

[versed hornet]

ok... but it needs a special adapter?

[graceful tree]

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-USB-C-Supporting/dp/B01J6DT070

does your monitor have displayport though? or only hdmi

[versed hornet]

Why? Is it unable to do hdmi?

[graceful tree]

...you know, i didn't think so, but apparently yes

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Adapter-USB-C-Supporting/dp/B00X4S5C7G

[versed hornet]

Sweet! Thanks for the help!

[misty gyro]

You need an active converter for that since VGA is an analog signal while HDMI is digital. A simple cable won't work.

[verbal spear]

its vga to vga to hdmi to gpu’s hdmi

@misty gyro

[misty gyro]

So the gpu has hdmi and the monitor only has vga?

[misty gyro]

If the gpu has hdmi and the display has vga you want something like this:
UGREEN Active HDMI to VGA Adapter with 3.5mm Audio Jack HDMI Male to VGA Female up to 1080P for PC Laptop Ultrabook Raspberry Pi Chromebook Black https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00NBUTHJG/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_BJMDCM5CYKDHZ3G3Q6RG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[verbal spear]

i bought the same thing just no headphone jack since there’s already one in the monitor

and monitor only has vga on them

[misty gyro]

Without the jack you'll need to plug the monitor into your audio out on the computer for sound.
The one you got at least says "active" right?

[verbal spear]

wait ima check hopefully it is

https://www.amazon.ca/GADEBAO-Converter-Computer-Projector-Chromebook/dp/B08Y1GRLXZ/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?adgrpid=62224800238&gclid=CjwKCAjwiY6MBhBqEiwARFSCPswvzR3W2q6_QHh-K7a0HgNDysoKbr0wlYfSNbYZF1Y720BHHhZ8hxoCnjcQAvD_BwE&hvadid=310036579340&hvdev=m&hvlocphy=9001551&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=17994829225115419769&hvtargid=kwd-3478190913&hydadcr=4611_9989608&keywords=hdmi+to+vga+adapter&qid=1636050139&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyRlc0VzJLU1NZUzY5JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNDUwMzE2TjVKTk1aM1BXRDVDJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTAxNzk2MTQzVkFUVVVXQ01DMDAxJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

this is what i got

i dont think itnhas active

to it

[misty gyro]

It's active, it just says it in a different way

[verbal spear]

okay thank you sir

it’s coming in today just got that free trial 😂

for one day shipping

[misty gyro]

Nice. Should work well if your device isn't on the incompatibility list.

[robust totem]

I think one of my monitors might be dead but I'm not sure.

• it's an old Asus monitor I got second hand
• using a dvi cable (it's the only cable that works with ny gpu)
• gpu is a amd RX 5500XT
• other monitor (hdmi) works fine
  monitor boots but won't display :(

worst comes to worst, I'm looking at getting the Dell 144Hz 27in curved monitor? S2721HGF

[unkempt plover]

Hey can someone sent me a good 144hz or 165hz monitor deal on budget maybe under $200

https://www.amazon.com/24MV1Y-Pbmiipx-Monitor-FreeSync-Technology/dp/B091G49KSZ/ref=asc_df_B091G49KSZ/?

[rain latch]

Try MSI optix g271. I got it for 180 dollars at best buy
Is 27"inch and 144hz 1ms ips panel. Pretty good for its price @unkempt plover

Sorry i pinged you in general then I moved it to here

[unkempt plover]

Roger

[rain latch]

Oof never mind. I checked the price just now and it's back up to 239 dollars. You can now disregard this message

Seems it was on good sale.

Apologies. Thought it was still under 200 dollars

[unkempt plover]

https://www.amazon.com/24MV1Y-Pbmiipx-Monitor-FreeSync-Technology/dp/B091G49KSZ/ref=asc_df_B091G49KSZ/? is this a good deal

Its pretty good by not adjustable

[rain latch]

Based on reviews it checks out. Go for it if you like it and really want it.

But you can always research to see if there's better options

And one more thing

Notice it can do 165hz refresh rate if you get HDMI 2.1 cable for it

144hz with standard HDMI cable

[unkempt plover]

Ty

[unkempt plover]

Does the monitor comes with a hdmi cable?

[rain latch]

Yeah it does

[unkempt plover]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08D3Y5PFZ/ref=srdp?

Yes this one is curved

And a little more expensive

But adjustable

And 144hz supported

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06VX1PKQ7/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_HWA01P9E0QBW5HWRDP99

If my pc dont support a 2 hdmi plug o can just buy this spliter?

Anyonehere?

[dawn silo]

best 2k capability monitor around 200-300

[visual pilot]

2k as in 1440p?
M27q

[visual pilot]

If it has other ports, use those and not a hub

I.E., if it has 1 HDMI and 1 DP, instead of using a splitter with the HDMI port, use one hdmi cord and a DP to HDMI cord

[misty gyro]

Is it dvi-i or dvi-d? Check both the monitor and gpu.

If I remember correctly dvi-i cannot be active at the same time as hdmi, but I'll double check on that.

[sage trail]

iirc dvi-i is dual link with analog support

could try using only the DVI montior

[misty gyro]

Yeah it was the issue with having both analog and digital output, they just don't coexist

[alpine bramble]

any decent 60hz monitors that i can place like that + a decent monitor arm?

[carmine bloom]

Honestly I'm shocked by 60hz prices

[carmine bloom]

https://www.amazon.com/Sceptre-Gaming-Monitor-Build-Speakers/dp/B078HTS4BS

[gray geyser]

Any good vertical monitors that are cheap rn?

[quartz sandal]

Vertical monitors are just regular monitors on an arm or on it's stand that can/is turned 90°

[gray geyser]

I’m looking for one on a stand

[quartz sandal]

Also what's your definition of cheap? And what resolution/size

[gray geyser]

1920x1080 25”

[misty gyro]

You can take any old monitor with a vesa mount and get a $25 bracket

[quartz sandal]

Pretty sure Asus VA24EHE can pivot on stand

Vesa mounting it is definitely the easiest though

[polar wedge]

Hi

i have the Xiomi 34 gaming monitor

every couple of hours the monitor turn black for 2 seconds

its pluged allright

any one knows the problem and can help??

i have no gpu

anyone here?

[misty gyro]

Try another cable or port

[polar wedge]

tried new cable .. the problem still occurs

[misty gyro]

Could still be a bad port, either on the computer or monitor

[glossy jacinth]

Guys can someone help me with a monitor

Please

[noble current]

@glossy jacinth We need price range, size and what resolution

[clear temple]

a good moniter with atleast 144hz for the price of 210

usd

maxiumum

[maiden wedge]

i just got the aw2521hf alienware

and the colors is really good

[clear temple]

btw does Acer QG241Y Pbmiipx 24" (23.8" Viewable) Full HD 1920 x 1080 165Hz 1ms support hdmi at 165hz

if not is there is a away to add an hdmi to displayport adapter or something

nvm it does

[quartz sandal]

Msi g241

[robust totem]

Anything against the:
Dell 144Hz Gaming Monitor 27 Inch Curved Monitor with FHD (1920 x 1080) Display, Nvidia G-Sync and AMD FreeSync HDMI, DisplayPort, VESA Certified, Gray - S2721HGF

or a better monitor recc?

[quartz sandal]

Yeah, 27" 1080p doesn't look great, I'd either go 1440p(m27q is a great choice) or 24"

[robust totem]

a bit out of my budget, I'm looking for a 27" monitor, at least 144hz, vesa mounting, pref. under $250USD I understand it might be unreasonable so if there's no better options I might go with that.

[visual pilot]

Is there a chance the budget can be extended?

[wary wave]

could always hope for a good sale. lowest the m27q has been was $260 but thats before tax

[robust totem]

yeah I think im just going to go for the M27Q, it should be worth it

[fading wyvern]

Nice

[visual pilot]

Nice

[robust totem]

thank you for the help! I really appreciate it

[maiden wedge]

i reccomend 24 inch also things look so clear

[glossy jacinth]

What’s recommended for right now and future for new gpus

@noble current

Only for Harvey gaming btw

Heavy

[unkempt plover]

https://www.amazon.com/VG248QG-G-Sync-Compatible-Gaming-Monitor/dp/B07TNM8L6S/ref=as_li_ss_tl? is it a good monitor?

[errant edge]

Msi g241 better

[unkempt plover]

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-C24G1A-Frameless-1920x1080-adjustable/dp/B08D3Y5PFZ/ref=sr_1_2?

[quartz sandal]

Np :)

[unkempt plover]

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-C24G1A-Frameless-1920x1080-adjustable/dp/B08D3Y5PFZ/ref=sr_1_2?is a good monitor?

[unkempt plover]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B087N4LQPN? a good monitor?

[wary wave]

@unkempt plover it is but i wouldnt recommend paying extra for 240hz unless you actually try it out at like a store or if a friend has one. i recommended another monitor in #peripherals-and-displays

[onyx moat]

I have a Samsung 43" 4K HDR commercial display I use as my main monitor. It only runs 60hz & 6ms, but it's been good for 4K gaming. What I often didn't like was how the colors looked. I spent a lot of time trying to manually correct them in the display's settings & using nVidia/Windows, but never got there. I took a long shot & downloaded drivers for a 4K HDR monitor Samsung makes ("SxxA65xU") & to my surprise, when I installed those drivers & loaded the ICC color profile, it came out great. Any potential harm in doing this?

[sage trail]

nope

[onyx moat]

okay awesome. Does doing that usually turn out well or I just got lucky somehow?

[sage trail]

i usually just sRGB and leave

but its just a color profile

so im not really suprised

[onyx moat]

I still can't figure out why it always looked so off but now looks on point

[compact crest]

monitor pairing for a 3060?

should i be looking at 1440 x 1080 or going higher

[errant edge]

1080p definitely, id say 22-24in

g241

i think is the monitors name pato reccomends

[compact crest]

hmm aight

its curved tho

[rancid dove]

is 290 a good deal for the m27q? will it go any lower do you think?

oh wait that's g27q

idk if there's a difference

[compact crest]

i mean at that point isnt it more about if ur happy with it

[rancid dove]

Trie

True

[wary wave]

the m27q is a bit better overall and also has a kvm switch which is nice. for the most part the m27q sits around the $320 mark on sale but it has dropped down to $280 before and even has dropped down to $260 somewhat recently

[rancid dove]

gotcha

[noble current]

The lowest I seen the M27Q is 249 or 255

[maiden wedge]

i just got it and I love it but not getting the full features cuz of laptop

since its 24 inch the pixel density is amazing

[slate surge]

what was that monitor that was 1440p and 165hz and on sale for like 350 or 400 again?

viewsonic monitor i think?

[raw ingot]

eh

that's not a great deal

just get gigabyte m27q

[slate surge]

i need stupid low response times, 1ms or lower preferably. oh nevermind yeah that's perfect... now, on the other hand a 120hz/144hz 32 inch 1080p monitor (yes i know, but i have my reasons), again with decent response times.

[raw ingot]

1ms is marketing for anything lower than insane prices

[slate surge]

eh, alright

i have a cable issue too, my rig is really far away and 6ft cables won't cut it, need like 10 or 12 also and i doubt vesa certified cables that are that long exist

think i just found one so that's solved now i guess

[misty gyro]

1ms modes tend to have such bad overshoot they're unusable. They only exist so they can put 1ms on the box.

[raw ingot]

^

[fading wyvern]

Unless you buy a oled 👀

That sweet sweet pixel response time

[quartz sandal]

Sometimes goes lower but if it does at/before black Friday pretty sure you'll get a rebate on the remainder anyway soo

[lucid bramble]

Hi folks, I need advice

Newegg ran out of the Dell UltraSharp U2412M monitor I wanted. I'm left with just the one now, and I'd like to get a second one, refurbished

I got one used from a local dude but I might take it back as it's pretty discolored on closer inspection

Are there reputable sites to buy this kind of thing from?

Uh I was gonna link one I found on "backmarket" but the bot nuked it 🥴

[quartz sandal]

Ebay, Facebook marketplace, r/hardwareswap reddit if you're in NA

[lucid bramble]

Hm, OK. I was afraid those sellers might be less than honest about condition.

I'm wary of paying more and getting one in the same lousy condition

I got this one from Craigslist

I can get "used - very good" on Amazon but I don't think that's the same as refurbished or "renewed"

[quartz sandal]

Have you considered just getting a different monitor :o

[rancid dove]

Asus tuf gaming 27 inch VG27AQ vs VG27BQ? it says the BQ is adjustable and has a 0.4 ms response time as opposed to the 1ms response time on the AQ, but the BQ is still cheaper for some reason?

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Gaming-VG27AQ-G-SYNC-Monitor/dp/B07WQ4FXY9/ref=psdc_1292115011_t3_B08N5GNPS5?th=1

[quartz sandal]

Those response times are marketing gunk and if 1440p get m27q

[rancid dove]

ah lol yeah ive been trying the m27q but amazon wont ship it to my state

maybe ill just make a trip to the next state over

only like a 30 minute drive

maybe they have one in a store

[quartz sandal]

@rancid dove https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k8GnTW/gigabyte-m27q-270-2560x1440-170-hz-monitor-m27q

Best buy, wegg and adorama have

[rancid dove]

oh i didnt even check that LOL thanks pato

[quartz sandal]

Np

[lucid bramble]

Yeah I guess I could. I don't know what other ones I could get at the same spec and size 😦

I would have liked to have two matching ones

Any advice on similar monitors?

Would something like this work? https://www.newegg.com/asus-va24ehe-23-8-full-hd/p/1FR-000R-00024?Item=1FR-000R-00024

[quartz sandal]

It would, not exactly the same but close enough

[lucid bramble]

Not sure I can find anything the same at a similar price point, sadly

Oh wait this is new? I guess I don't know what makes it so cheap

[quartz sandal]

The one you have is 16:10 unfortunately it's not really a common aspect ratio but you can try look for 16:10

[lucid bramble]

😦

[quartz sandal]

Monitors aren't that expensive, you can get nice 144hz monitors for like 180ish

[lucid bramble]

Hm, I see. The Dell I have is like $400 new

[quartz sandal]

I mean you can see if there's a 16:10 filter on some sites

[lucid bramble]

Looks like there's not a lot out there, sadly

I guess it all comes down to whether I trust these other mail-order sites or not, but I don't know anyone with direct experience so it's a crapshoot

[quartz sandal]

Imo just get a high refresh monitor for your main like msi g241 or something

At least that way you're upgrading too

[frosty lily]

good day everyone, looking to get a gaming monitor for a pc im building, im kinda new to it all but wanted some opinions to get a TN or IPS monitor? how many Hz should i look to get (i do enjoy fps games) and what response time?

[quartz sandal]

Ips, for the rest of the questions, what's your specs?

Although usually you'll want 144hz-170hz

[frosty lily]

meg x570 ace mobo
ryzen 7 5800x
rtx 3060 ti
32gb ddr4 3200 tridentz g.skill

[quartz sandal]

And what games you play? Fps games? Unless you play/want to play semi competitively I'd go 1440p 144hz-170hz, I'd usually recommend gigabyte m27q but that depends on country

[frosty lily]

yes, i want to play semi-competitively, once i think i'm good enough, but i thank you very much

[quartz sandal]

Unless you mean like actually semi competitive like collegete type level 144hz is fine, you can also go 1080p for more fps, I'd go with msi g241/g242

[frosty lily]

thank you, really appreciate the info

[quartz sandal]

Np

[frosty lily]

trying to put everything together by cyber monday/black friday
even if i dont get what in my cart i have an idea of other options as well

[quartz sandal]

Sorry i meant if you want to play collegete 240hz is an option but 144hz is still fine

[frosty lily]

ohhhh ok, thanks

[graceful tapir]

is anyone able to recommend a good 3+1 mount that can support 32in?

the vivo one is the only one I have found but the issue is it doesnt allow you to adjust the monitor heights individually

[quartz sandal]

Interesting video on cable integrity for HDMI
https://youtu.be/XFbJD6RE4EY

[carmine bloom]

Got a raise at work. Now it justifies my bad purchases 😏

[molten steeple]

Is there any 32in 4k monitors that are good but won't break the bank? Looking for a second monitor and would like it above 90hz

[wary wave]

i mean, depends on what "break the bank" means because 32in 4k above 60hz is kinda

[fading wyvern]

M32u 👀

It’s also prob sold out

[wary wave]

is also $800

or at least on b&h

[fading wyvern]

Under 1k for a <90hz and decent color sounds good to me in terms of 4K monitors

Most of em are priced at like 1.2k