old-monitors-and-tv

[full verge]

the pure black is so cool

[errant edge]

https://youtu.be/XbQ8Pe4WVxc?si=5IVvBrBNnQ-8F0TQ

[errant edge]

Mini led will have the same colour accuracy/HDR as oled

Well, not the exact same

But you know what I mean

Here's a review for the acer mini led
https://youtu.be/W9669HalZoM?si=XsKsNV5_62UZTFK0

The aoc just has a bit faster response times and a few minor improvements, but nothing crazy

[full verge]

How much worse is the response time on the mini led moniters

This ones seems like a good choice but its not saying anything about response times
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0D9J5KTD6/ref=cm_sw_r_as_gl_api_gl_i_dl_XDKFZ6TKS97ZPCBER95V?linkCode=ml1&tag=graphicallych-20&th=1

[errant edge]

The aoc mini led is just about as good as a decent IPS, the acer is just a little bit below

The koorui mini led is nice but it has some issues with hdr from what I've been told

[brisk oxide]

I think I will try and do a new monitor for black friday this year

[tranquil arch]

ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMG at 650$ + a copy of MH

Or

Alienware’s AW2725DF OLED for 599?

Both are 1440p

As much as I’m really tempted to buy a 4k monitor (I wanna upgrade to the 80/90 or amd equivalent next generation) I feel like I’ll always need to chase GPUs then

[brisk oxide]

Do you have to choose between 4k and OLED? Or are there 4k OLED? (I know nothing)

[errant edge]

There are 4k oleds

[fossil gust]

4k is very intensive to run games at

[errant edge]

This is a decent sale
https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-32-4k-gaming-monitor-oled-mag-321up-qd-oled

5070 ti can kind of run 4k

Personally I'd much rather the higher fps of 1440p

[brisk oxide]

itll be a tough choice when the time comes to decide on a monitor

[errant edge]

Do you game more competitively, or do you enjoy single player/story games more?

[brisk oxide]

i definitely never intend to play anything competitive again

[errant edge]

Then you could go 4k, higher fps isn't as important for slower paced gaming

[brisk oxide]

It's not terrible, but I bet some games struggle to get 60

almost seems like if i was dead set on 4k i should aim for a 5080

[small warren]

I wouldn't commit to 4K at that level now

Not unless you're dead set on frame gen

Which in many cases isn't a good idea lol

[silent epoch]

4k still isn't good enough

[rocky cypress]

if you're like me, i can play games from anywhere from 1000+ fps to 30fps and not really care lmao

(with a 240hz monnitor)

[brisk oxide]

i will say 60 fps is kind of a minimum for me

ive never seen 4k so i dont actually know if the 'visual clarity' would make it worth it for me

but ive seen OLED TV's so I can only imagine how much better games look, even at 1440

[fossil gust]

IMO 1440p is a nice sweet spot right now. 27" of 109ppi looks great, and it's more forgiving to run than 4k

[brisk oxide]

I think I will look at 1440p OLED's around black friday and hope for a deal

[rocky cypress]

i'm even fine with 25fps lol

[tranquil arch]

Would you run this with 9070xt?

I’m all good using fsr4 and like medium settings if needed I’d ljke to have somewhere around 120+fps

Also any opinions on those monitors?

[errant edge]

Personally I'd go for 1440p

9070xt is entry level 4k imo

[visual pilot]

9070xt is enjoyable at 1440p but I would not expect 120+ at 4k even with fsr on modern games

[errant edge]

^

[flat quest]

Hello everyone

I have a DLP tv question

I have a toshibia that needs a color wheel. As I was looking online for one I saw one for a Mitsibishi that looks exactly like the one for my toshibia. Did they use same parts? Are they the same?

[brisk oxide]

Here's the results of one Google search.

Toshiba and Mitsubishi often used the same OEM manufacturers for their DLP (Digital Light Processing) TVs, and in many cases, they did share identical color wheels. However, before purchasing a Mitsubishi color wheel for your Toshiba, you should verify the part number to ensure compatibility.

Here’s what you can do:

Check Your TV's Model Number – Look on the back of the TV or in the manual.

Look Up the Original Part Number – Search online for your Toshiba model’s specific color wheel part number.

Compare with Mitsubishi’s Part Number – If the Mitsubishi color wheel has the same part number or dimensions, it's likely interchangeable.

Many Toshiba and Mitsubishi DLP TVs from the mid-2000s shared parts, especially because both brands used Texas Instruments’ DLP technology. However, some models had minor differences in RPM (rotations per minute) or sensor placement, which could cause issues if mismatched.

If you want to be 100% sure, you can:

Check compatibility lists from TV parts retailers.

Ask in TV repair forums (some experts may have direct experience with cross-compatibility).

Reach out to a parts supplier to confirm before buying.

[flat quest]

WHAT THE

I can't find the actual part number for mine. The mitsibishi one only gives part number for it

[brisk oxide]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Swift-Gaming-Monitor-PG27AQDM/dp/B0BZRBYLP1

Lol, amazon must be listening, now I am getting 1440 OLED ads

only $800

[errant edge]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7LzXsY/aoc-agon-pro-ag276qzd2-267-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-ag276qzd2

[brisk oxide]

i almost dont want to look at that one solely because it has an anime picture as the first pic

😄

those reviews are encouraging though

[tranquil arch]

What do you guys think about

Alienware AW2725DF OLED Gaming Monitor for 599?

Vs

ASUS ROG Strix 27” 1440P OLED Gaming Monitor (XG27AQDMG) - QHD $650 + MHW copy?

Both seem to get really good reviews

[small warren]

If there's an oled or qdoled for under 500 I would lean to that

[brisk oxide]

How noticeable is the difference between the different types of oled

[small warren]

Qd-oled can go brighter with less burn risk

Can also have slight colour variation compared to woled

Like early samples having purple tint

But apart from that not much else

[brisk oxide]

I'm gonna hate researching monitors when the time comes so much

[small warren]

Just give a budget and we'll tell you what to buy

Lmao

[brisk oxide]

I'm aiming for black Friday so hopefully some kind of banger deal happens

[tranquil arch]

Nothing that I found yet the Dell is on sale from 900 to 600 rn and the asus I guess technically is a “sale” bc of the game copy

[small warren]

Use pcpartpicker

Type "oled" in the monitor search section

And sort by price

Seems we have a few

There was one a couple days ago for $400

I'd be lurking for those imo

X27u is a good one, so is that AOC

[tranquil arch]

So they come with burn in warranty? I’ve seen the AOC but was t sure how it was

[small warren]

If you use an oled properly you should be able to avoid it altogether

I wouldn't buy on the premise that you're safe within a couple years, I would buy based on the knowledge of using one properly so it never happens

[tranquil arch]

Fair, but I would assume it means short windows for a moving screen saver or sleep mode

[small warren]

All of them are like that

Oled care is a constant battle

[tranquil arch]

That’s a fair point tbh

[small warren]

My usual recommendation is to run them at 350 nits or lower

[tranquil arch]

What do you mean?

[small warren]

So like

If you buy a 1000 nit screen

[misty gyro]

Where's that rtings video...

[small warren]

35% brightness

Use 1000% for stuff like movies sure

[tranquil arch]

Oh dang ok

[small warren]

But not all the time

Oled screens have huge heatsinks in the back, hence the shape

I would always do regular refresh cycles

[small warren]

Take a 5 minute break every so often when it happens

[tranquil arch]

That’s interesting some of the reviews all talk about the peek brightness for HDR , that’s only for movies tho?

[small warren]

I would also avoid statics as much as you can

[small warren]

Stuff like movies or occasional new games

I wouldn't 24/7 peak brightness

Not at all

Newer panels also have much better preservation tech and efficiency

So they continue to get better with burn in

So say you wanted to play every day at full brightness on PoE2?

I'd say no

I'd run 35%

Or run peak during bright daylight, but then 35% at night

By running it higher you run the display hotter

Those moments when they're hot is when burn in occurs

Most of it is reversible, called TFT burns

If you cycle screens regularly and avoid statics you can absolutely remove most of it

But some can be permanent if too bright

Hence the brightness and care recommendations

One other thing

A LOT of people recommend glossy oled, it does tend to look better, but if you use your pc in a room where sunlight or reflections hit your screen, I would not suggest glossy

You won't be able to see lmfao

Some bright rooms in entirety

It can be hard to see with bright backdrops

So not glossy screens can be at an advantage

Iirc there's a couple variations

Semi gloss and matte

Semi gloss is probably the best of both

Some people hate the matte coat cos it can be hard to read text or get full oled clarity compared to glass

Anyway, wall of text and I'm hungry af but that's what I would do LOL

[tranquil arch]

Hang on question about this. She says a 16:9 aspect woulda blasted the monitors isn’t that normal ratio?

[tranquil arch]

Lmao I appreciate that tho! And yea I’ve seen a specific model that is a glossy Woled that is supposed to have clarity but be light resistant.

Also one of the YT I watch mentioned that LG should have something this year or early next year for WOLED and a non matte finish for better clarity

[small warren]

Got no idea on that last bit but yeah

[silent epoch]

no burn in on my monitor yet

its been almost 3 years now

[final agate]

is this a steal?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C63HDHPR/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[rough ridge]

No

Acer Nitro 27" WQHD 2560x1440 IPS PC Gaming Monitor | AMD FreeSync Premium | 300Hz | Up to 0.5ms | 99% sRGB | DisplayHDR 400 | ErgoStand | VESA Mounting | 1 x DP 1.4 & 2 x HDMI 2.1 | XV272U F3bmiiprx https://a.co/d/0UjEF3A

[final agate]

is my monitor not good or what?

[rough ridge]

It’s more expensive for less than the other one

[brisk oxide]

$5-600, 1440 oled, probably gonna buy one for the new build.

[final agate]

i cannot reach 240 fps does this mean that if i buy a 240 hz monitor i wont see a difference? i play minecraft at 300+ fps but fortnite at around 140-180

[rough ridge]

Uh

Yes

You will see a difference in mc but not fortnite

[brisk oxide]

I might buy this today, any other options I should consider?

[rough ridge]

Depending on what you want there’s other options

No idea what Phillips envia is tho

Decent reviews, and the 360hz one has a used for 448

I mean yeah up to you, unless someone has smth bad to say about this brand but these look decent

[prime sun]

Ive heard phillips is fine

[brisk oxide]

The reviews for the AOC make me lean towards it

[tribal spire]

@brisk oxide the AOC has issues with HDR saturation and pink/red tinting

Just something to be wary of

The Philips seems to be color accurate though a little lacking in brightness compared to most

Potentially panel protection things

[brisk oxide]

yeah i knew id hate looking at monitors

[tribal spire]

I mean

It's par for the course

These are considered budget OLEDs

None of them is perfect

[brisk oxide]

https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Strix-Gaming-Monitor-XG27AQDMG/dp/B0CZWM44QP

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-MPG-271QRX-QD-OLED-response/dp/B0CTS1RQ6Y?th=1

https://www.amazon.com/LG-‎27GS95QE-Ultragear-DisplayHDR-DisplayPort/dp/B0CSGWXVBN?th=1

How do these three compare?

[fierce lagoon]

The monitor search is a pain tbh does anyone have recommendations for a decent 1080p monitor with as low response time as possible for preferably under 150$ max

Ill be using an amd cpu/gpu

Open to refurbished as well

[errant edge]

What cpu and gpu specifically?

7500f and 6700xt yeah?

[fierce lagoon]

Yeah

[errant edge]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-27-qhd-gaming-monitor-g274qpf-8

I'd go 1440p

[fierce lagoon]

I know it can be a 1440p setup but I just don’t know if I should go for that right now due to the decrease in frame rate for a not much better picture

But how big of a difference does it make

[errant edge]

1440p is def worth it imo, when I went from 1080p to 1440p it was like a night and day difference

6700xt is def 1440p capable, unless you're looking for 144+ fps in every game on high/ultra

And it'll still do that in a large majority of games

[small warren]

Probably would start thinking maybe 1080p time by now

6700XT has had a good run

[errant edge]

Ehh

Even in the most demanding games it still does 60+ at medium settings or higher

[small warren]

Yeah that's kinda what I mean

For like 2 or 3 years that'll turn to 60fps at low settings

[errant edge]

Decent 1440 monitor lasts you a few gpu upgrades tho

[small warren]

It's been on that edge for a while now, thinking in the next couple years it won't really be a card for that

True

If they were maybe a little higher I'd swing the other way

[fierce lagoon]

Big thing is I’m probably going to be using the same specs in 4-5 years

[small warren]

6700xt at 1440p is sorta like 7900XT at 4k

It's like barely there

[errant edge]

https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-25-fhd-monitor-g255f

[fierce lagoon]

I’m not the kind of person to upgrade often

[small warren]

And in a few years it'll def be out

I wouldn't rec a 7900xt for 4K for a good reason

[errant edge]

Personally the clarity upgrade for 1440p is worth it, but its up to you

[small warren]

I mean either way you get two sides of the coin here @fierce lagoon

Angel and devil on your shoulders lol

[fierce lagoon]

I feel like the clarity would be nice for visual games like forza and tomb raider and stuff like that

[small warren]

Way I see it a slightly faster gpu would make the cut for 1440p

For a good few years

[fierce lagoon]

But then there’s plenty of games where I don’t think I’d care for the clarity upgrade as long as I can have my settings themselves higher

[small warren]

Well 1440p is def a better clarity change

Easily so

24" 1080p won't compete there

If you could stretch a little more, a 7700xt or 6800 I would call still good for 1440p

Would only be like another 100 or so

[errant edge]

Iirc he ordered the gpu alr

[small warren]

Sadge

[fierce lagoon]

Yeah I did

[errant edge]

I think i linked him a $260 6700xt

[small warren]

Oh damn

Nvm that's bangin

[fierce lagoon]

Fr

[small warren]

Well way I see it, 6700xt will do 1080p for a long time, it's been on that edge for a while now

You can do 1440p but I would consider upgrading within a couple years

[fierce lagoon]

I was wondering if it’s possible to get a good 1080p monitor with lower than 1ms response for the same price as a 1ms 1440p

[errant edge]

Advertised response time is mostly irrelevant

[errant edge]

I'd just grab this

[small warren]

All non oled have a greater than 1ms response

[fierce lagoon]

Oh fr

How do they get away with advertising otherwise then

[small warren]

The "1ms gtg" is just marketing bs

[errant edge]

Smh just buy a 1080p 480hz oled

Only like $900

[fierce lagoon]

Only as much as the pc I’m building

[small warren]

Cos like 1 pixel on the screen will do it and it's technically true

It's the same kinda bs like "built for overclocking" or "speeds up to 7000MB/s"

Those things are absolute crap irl and mean basically nothing

Very very little use cases that actually amount to meaningful gain for the normal person

So you buy into it thinking "Yeah I got this great upgrade" when in fact they made that faster looking model much cheaper with crappier parts

Or some sort of cheap bottleneck

It's a huge thing across the whole pc industry

Very easy traps to fall into

Most monitors that aren't OLED typically present a more accurate 3, sometimes 7 ms response time

And the thing with getting a better pc means better fps, which means better time between frames which is as big or bigger of a help as the response time of a monitor

We tend to recommend pretty decent screens, but if you want actual sub 1ms response time, you go oled

Typically 0.03ms response

And that response gives such a bump to your performance it's as big as adding a couple hundred fps to the pc itself

Highly worth doing if you shop correctly for one, otherwise sticking to a typical IPS/VA is quite fine

[fierce lagoon]

If I had 500-600 bucks to drop on a monitor I would consider it but that seems crazy to be tbh

[small warren]

Oled is endgame

[fierce lagoon]

So I suppose I’ll just chill with a poor man’s display

[small warren]

It's a buy once and never again screen

[fierce lagoon]

Yeah but I’m trying to save as much as I can without getting junk stuff because my aim is to put a decent down payment on a house in 1-2 years

So spending an extra 500 on a monitor just doesn’t make sense even though I can technically afford it

[small warren]

I mean it's not something I'm suggesting you do lol

Just the nature of the purchase is that of it being a whole one and done ordeal

[fierce lagoon]

Yeah I get that

It’s always nice to be able to never worry about it again if possible

[small warren]

Consider oled when you can ever afford it lol

In a few years oled should be mainstream

We already have $400 oleds

[brisk oxide]

@small warren you have any thoughts on the four I posted a bit earlier

[small warren]

I see 3

Pass

Pass

Sometimes good

[brisk oxide]

Oh the other I was looking at is the AOC AGON

[small warren]

Good

Those are 499

[fierce lagoon]

Would downgrading some games to 1080 on a 1440p monitor look worse than just running them on a 1080p monitor

[small warren]

Yes

[brisk oxide]

I want to buy it but Bacca mentioned HDR issues and red/pink tint issues. I did fine some reddit threads with settings that heavily improve it

[small warren]

You'll go from perfectly clear to mild blur

[fierce lagoon]

Ah ok

[small warren]

That's gen 1 qd oled variants

The woled is same price

[fierce lagoon]

Guess I ought to just get the 1080 for now hopefully woot doesn’t take 3 years to deliver this

[small warren]

Woot is amazon my guy

Amazon uber discount firm

[fierce lagoon]

I know but my mobo says it won’t be here until April 4th

I ordered it on the 24th

I’m spoiled by usually only shopping with Amazon prime

[brisk oxide]

this is woled?

[small warren]

There are two models

You need to check

One is qd oled the other woled

I don't know the codes of them myself

[brisk oxide]

the WQHD is only available in 34inch, unless im missing something

[small warren]

Yes cos wqhd is wide

[errant edge]

Nah this is regular OLED

[small warren]

Not 21:9

Qhd is 1440p

I'm suggesting a 27 inch

[brisk oxide]

im confused, i dont see a woled option even when googling

[small warren]

Seems it's not on sale rn

So D2 is QDOLED, D is WOLED

[brisk oxide]

i see

[fossil gust]

If you stretch the window to the full monitor size, yes. You could leave it windowed and it would be normal. Some games might allow you to add black padding around the window

Also a lot of games these days have upscaling so you're really running it below 1080p anyways lol

2560x1440p Quality DLSS is like 2/3 res so 1706x960p

[brisk oxide]

Do you have any alternative suggestions?

[small warren]

Is there any others at 500

KTC oled

Predator x27u

Ones like that

[brisk oxide]

what if i go up to 750

[small warren]

Aw3412dwf

It's a bit of a difficult sell tho

I would just stick to the $500 options imo

Not worth paying more just to get as good of an experience sooner

[tribal spire]

QZD2 is the QD-OLED
QZD WOLED

[tribal spire]

Philips Evnia 27M2 1440p 360hz QD-OLED

It's like 50 bucks more than the AOC but has a lot lower latency as well as no obvious color problems

[final agate]

i plan to upgrade my later maybe in the summer or whenever gpus are available but i recently bought a monitor light bar and it doesnt fit my monitor bc my monitor back is curved but i found a monitor for $300 that is 240hz and same resolution and my current so should i buy the new one or just refund the light bar for now

[brisk oxide]

"I recently ordered one of these from Amazon and received it last Friday. It is packed in a cardboard shell with a styrofoam bag over the panel, no protective film on the screen. It arrived with scratches all over the top right of the screen and Amazon and Phillips both refused to replace it with a new monitor. Phillips said “if it’s not factory damage or a defect from the factory we don’t replace it. You’d be better off talking to Amazon”

Some reviews on Amazon are similar, not encouraging lol

[brisk oxide]

Seems like every monitor has drawbacks, will have to decide which drawback I am ok with dealing with

[brisk oxide]

I think I might wait/hope for a sale on the MSI QRX or Rog Strix

[fossil gust]

I would not buy a $300 monitor unless it's OLED

If it's OLED that's a great deal

[final agate]

whats the difference between IPS and OLED?

[fossil gust]

OLED can show true blacks, has less motion blur/smearing, nicer colors

[final agate]

wym

[final agate]

i really like the moniter light bar it just simply doesnt fit on top of the monitor so should i just refund it?

idk if buying a new monitor with higher hz wiull be good when most games i run only run at 100-144 fps

[fossil gust]

Just get this

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7QsV3C/acer-nitro-xv275u-p3-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-umhxxaa302

Mini LED is in between IPS and OLED

[final agate]

is OLED better than IPS when it comes to gaming?

[fossil gust]

Yes

[final agate]

when it comes to buying pc stuff is it best to use amazon or newegg

[fossil gust]

Whichever is cheaper

Though make sure the seller is legit if it's 3rd party

[final agate]

which one? whats LED is it same as OLED

[fossil gust]

What do you mean by "which one"

LED is not the same as OLED

[final agate]

whats the diference

[fossil gust]

Doesn't really matter, if you want to learn about those I'd go do a web search

VA ~= IPS < miniLED < OLED

VA has better contrast than IPS but often has more ghosting

MiniLED is better than both IPS and VA, and OLED is on top

[final agate]

my current monitor works great for me but i am just mad the light bar doesnt attach

[final agate]

what abt this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qfpQzy/acer-predator-x27u-bmiipruzx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhxxaa001

it has no reviews tho

[fossil gust]

I can't speak for that specifically but $500 has been a fairly typical price for 1440p oleds as of late

And I think they all use either the same or very similar panels

[final agate]

yewah but the other one i found is like 300

[fossil gust]

...is it OLED?

[final agate]

lemme check

i dont think so

no

IPS

[fossil gust]

...so I literally just explained that miniLED is better than IPS

And the miniLED monitor is $190

Last I checked $300 is more than $190

Do they still teach critical thinking skills in school these days? Or has that been replaced by skibidi toilet

[errant edge]

I went from an x27q IPS panel to the AOC mini led

Mini led is very nice

Great colours and great HDR

[final agate]

you gotta chill also i started this convo bc of a light bar i bought that doesnt fit my monitor

[fossil gust]

Not trynna argue or make beef but when people are helping you out on their own time and free will, it's considered polite to read & do your best to comprehend their messages before sending more of your own.

[tribal spire]

I think that's just Amazon having a skill issue

[small warren]

I said that

[brisk oxide]

Maybe, they all have drawbacks which sound bad to me. I'm not sure how to be ok with some of them for $5-700

[tribal spire]

Yeah it took me a sec to find

[tribal spire]

thing is that even the "worst" OLED is crushing any display with a non-FALD backlight in every metric

and those displays that do have FALD aren't necessarily that much cheaper AND have their own respective "gotchas"

[brisk oxide]

I think I just don't know enough about the drawbacks to gauge their significance correctly

I guarantee any of the options would beat my current monitor, I just worry about the burn in or the lack of HDR, or lower brightness on some, or the streaking/flickering I read about

Feels like for that money there shouldn't be potential issues that could be significant

[misty gyro]

OLED arguably looks better than HDR because of the perfect contrast

[brisk oxide]

I've seen hdr mentioned in almost every review, and things like adaptive sync, or brightness controls, there's so many facets to consider. Motion blur reduction, different levels of HDMI support, it's just hard to decide what to sacrifice

[hidden cairn]

Can someone explain to me what hdr even is bc I just realized I have zero clue

[misty gyro]

HDR allows for the monitor to receive a signal that includes more bits per color, making the colors potentially more vibrant and deeper depending on how that signal is processed and output

[hidden cairn]

Ah so basically more color depth?

[misty gyro]

That's a major part of it yes

Each monitor is only capable of a certain brightness level, and HDR400 (400 nits peak brightness) is the most basic version that's barely worth using. SDR gets brighter than that.

The colors of the content would ideally be mastered for the same HDR rating as the monitor, but that's not always possible so they just master movies for either 1000 or 2000 nits target brightness.

[hidden cairn]

So, more color depth but your monitor barely produces light. ..got it.

[misty gyro]

Some games let you choose the HDR level your monitor supports, like no man's sky, and that works out pretty well

That way it's not over brightening things, making them appear washed out

[hidden cairn]

Yeah

Interesting

[brisk oxide]

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/alienware-27-360hz-qd-oled-gaming-monitor-aw2725df/apd/210-bljd/monitors-monitor-accessories

There's a promo code for this monitor at $599, anyoe have thoughts?

[prime sun]

meh

its neither bad or good imo

[brisk oxide]

Based on what? It's one of the highest rated in this price range/configuration

[prime sun]

the price i mean

the monitor itself is pretty top end

like if you want a qd oled with high refresh its a strong option, but pretty standard

also most people dont really even need that high hz

[brisk oxide]

I think it would be overkill but it's almost the same price as the other 240hz monitors with only small differences in features

I also wonder if having the option of 360 would help with my susceptibility to motion sickness in some games

[fossil gust]

I really doubt 240 to 360 will make a difference

[brisk oxide]

I also don't honestly see much of a price difference for 240 vs 360, the 'top' monitors in this range are all either +/- $100

the MSI is $150 more, the Asus 240 is $50 more, the Philips is $50 less

[errant edge]

This is very well reviewed
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TfQKHx/msi-mag-271qpx-qd-oled-265-2560-x-1440-360-hz-monitor-mag-271qpx-qd-oled

Rtings has a review on it

[brisk oxide]

What is the difference between the QPX and QRX

[errant edge]

120hz

[brisk oxide]

They both say 360

[errant edge]

Oh wait

You right

Ones probably a newer version

[brisk oxide]

According to what I am reading the QRX has higher USB-C power delivery which is irrelevant to me, usb which is irrelevant to me, RGB which is irrelevant, and the QPX doesnt allow user-updateable firmware whereas the QRX does

QPX is 'mainsteam MAG series' QRX is 'premium MPG series'

Ive been looking at the QRX but it's $750, the thing that caught my eye on the dell is it's listed for $900 but you can use the code to get it for $600.

It's a bit of an older review but when Hardware Unboxed's monitor channel did theirs, they said the QRX and Alienware are virtually identical in performance and whichever is cheapest is the best option.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ssesoCm4lU

but as with all components there's people saying things like Dell ships them with scratches on the screen and no screen protector, so I immediately assume it will be bad. But one of the things I see almost everywhere, which surprised me, is the Dell warranty is really good and their support for returning/exchanging monitors is generally straight-forward.

I'm also not sure how a glossy OLED is going to react to my office

It's not a dark cave

but im considering just buying one at this point and trying it out to see how it goes

[tribal spire]

that's the most expensive 1440p QDOLED model here lmao

also the Alienware has an active cooling fan iirc

which can be quite annoying

[tranquil arch]

SAMSUNG 27” Odyssey QD-OLED G6 (G61SD)

Thoughts on this? Looks like it’s a matte finish QD OLED to reduce the reflections

Currently 550$ on Amazon

[tribal spire]

That's a good price honestly

[tranquil arch]

im stuck between that and the AW 2725df which with a code can be had for 600$ (as shown above)

[tribal spire]

They all use the same panel tbf

It's a 1440p QD-OLED right?

[tranquil arch]

that one is yes, but the samsung uses a matte finish on the QD panel and is 240hz vs 360

[misty gyro]

Same panel, different coating

[tribal spire]

It really is a tossup

You can't get 360hz to look good on DP1.4 anyway

Too much DSC would make it look really bad

[misty gyro]

Yeah don't even bother with that. With the OLED response times, 240Hz feels like 360 anyway.

[tribal spire]

So it's not such an advantage (not to mention you don't really need more than 240hz with OLED)

So really it depends on what room it goes into

[tranquil arch]

wait what is DSC?

[tribal spire]

Display Stream Compression

Used to reduce bandwidth used in cables between your monitor and GPU

It's a "visually lossless" algorithm

[misty gyro]

"""""visually lossless""""""

[tribal spire]

In laymen's term that means you can't tell it's on until like 20-30% compression ratio
Above that there's artifacting

And if you use more than 50% compression it'll look like dogcrap

[misty gyro]

Heavily dependent on compression ratio yes, and some people can tell more than others

[tribal spire]

You need like 60% compression to get 360hz refresh rate uver the DP1.4 ports of 1440p QD-OLED displays

[tranquil arch]

damn really?

[tribal spire]

It's highly likely to look like dogcrap

No point bothering

[tranquil arch]

so how can they say that its compatible lol

[tribal spire]

It will do 360hz

It's just gonna look like 💩

[tranquil arch]

thats seems like the same claim as 4090 performance for 550

[misty gyro]

Because it technically works

[tribal spire]

Anyhow

Do you have like a large window to your back where your monitor will go?

Or a bright light that shines on ghe display area

If you do
You might benefit from the matte coating

[tranquil arch]

i do have a large window to my back and 2 smaller ones in the room, but the large one stays closed and the smallerone that is behind me would have a blackout curtian

[tribal spire]

Otherwise glossy will give sharper image

[tribal spire]

Does light come in through the large window?

Like is it a source of illumination during the day?

[tranquil arch]

ill say no it has shutters on it so its pretty damn dark

[tribal spire]

Then glossy will work well

You see I ask that because I know it matters a lot

[tranquil arch]

and like 90% of gaming i do is at night due to work and kdsi

kids*

oh i got a random question.. how is eye strain?

[tribal spire]

My room is weird because I have a giant window for illumination

But it's off to my left side when I'm gaming

So I'm aware of the limitations

[tribal spire]

That I can't really answer because I don't know the displays that intimately

[misty gyro]

Basically non-existent for modern monitors with a good enough pixel density

[tribal spire]

It's also subjective as hell

Like something that gives me headaches might be perfectly fine for you

[misty gyro]

VRR flicker is an occasional issue, especially at lower fps, and that can cause eye strain too

[tribal spire]

But that won't be a problem for you more than likely

[misty gyro]

You can always turn off VRR to fix that

[tribal spire]

9070 XT can def drive it fast enough

[tribal spire]

NGL with an OLED

I don't think there would be any tearing issues

[tranquil arch]

ok thats good to know. i stare at screens all day charting for work so i always try to make sure i ask. i wear the bluelight glasses normally when im gaming to

[tribal spire]

Worst case is going below 24fps

Or like if you have like 500fps

[tribal spire]

Hold on are you gonna use it for work too?

[tranquil arch]

nono im saying at work im staring at screens all day

[tribal spire]

I'd highly recommend not doing that
I mean you CAN, but it's not gonna be optimal

[tribal spire]

Ah alright that's fair

[misty gyro]

Blue light is also much less of an issue on modern stuff. It's not like the old tube TV days where it was absolutely flooding the room in high frequency light.

[tribal spire]

Yeah OLEDs don't emit blue light quite like those old things

Or rather it's a different kind of blue light

Holy crap

[tranquil arch]

hmm ok thats good to know too

[tribal spire]

I just turned up my phone screen to test in the dark

And now I can't see

Like no joke in light mode this single phone screen illuminates the entirety of my room

[tranquil arch]

ASUS ROG Strix OLED XG27AQDMG also seems like it gets really high reviews. its like 650 with a copy of MHW (id likely buy this game in a few months IF they figure out performance) so like 580usd vs the samsung at 550

should still be the same panel though right? now its same Hz and just a different finish?

[tranquil arch]

damn what phone do you have?

[tribal spire]

Like an older Redmi
Super AMOLED screen

[tranquil arch]

thats pretty cool. outside of apple there are a lot of really cool techs that they do with phones

[tribal spire]

But yes

It's the same sort of tech used in these monitors

Different subpixel layout and touch integration, but the same basic idea

So believe me, it's good stufd

[tranquil arch]

so heres a silly question the Asus i listed that looks like its a WOLED with a GLOSSY screen vs the QD oled with a MATTE screen.. whats the difference?

i assume 1 is samsung tech the other is LG but like isnt that achieving the same things?

[tribal spire]

WOLED ans QD-OLED has different strengths

WOLED gets quite a bit brighter, while QD-OLED has more color volume and potentially color accuracy in brighter scenes

WOLED means there's a white subpixel that boosts brightness at the cost of less colored light being there

QD-OLED has quantum dots that make it pop with color, though at the cost of some peak brightness

[misty gyro]

WOLED also has slightly worse text clarity because of the different subpixel layout

[tribal spire]

Most TVs are WOLED actually

Cuz they NEED to get really bright to combat ambient light and reflections
But there are QD-OLED TVs at the top of the stack

I'm known to be a bit of a QD-OLED fanatic in the server

So I might be biased.
But IMO the color volume and accuracy is overall worth it over some peak brightness

Both are amazing tho

[tranquil arch]

oh yea i totally forgot about the subpixel structure change and the text difference.

From what you described i think i would like the QD pixel with maybe a matte finish to "fight" the reflections. maybe thats best of both worlds?

[tribal spire]

It's a tradeoff, like everything is

[tranquil arch]

i dont need insane brightness but i really like popping colors. and not having to worry about the pink refections sounds nice too

[tribal spire]

But since you don't have issues with a lot of light shining on your panel

I think glossy QD-OLED would be the best overall for you

[tranquil arch]

what do you think the major difference is between glossy and Matte QD?

[tribal spire]

Glossy is going to be sharper

But it's gonna have mirror reflections if you shine a light on it

Glossy QD-OLED is like looking into a mirror lol

It's actually astounding

[tranquil arch]

this is gonna sound really dumb.. i worry that the reflection on it might throw me off. i have a laptop (its not an oled) with a glossy coating and its like impossible for me to use bc all i do is stare at myself in it lol

[tribal spire]

Lmao

That's an issue I can't relate to

But yeah, matte or in-between coatings aren't the end of the world

Snobby purists shun then because it's not "right" according to their subjective "standards"

But it's gonna work well

[tranquil arch]

thats what its gonna be like right?

like a mirror of myself on the screen?

maybe what ill do is see if best buy or a local shop has them on display ( i doubt it) worst case i assume it would be about the same as looking at a glossy TV or a matte TV tho

[tribal spire]

It's not gonna be an issue when the screen is on methinks

It's just something to be aware of

You will inevitably have to make some kind of compromise

[tranquil arch]

100%

i guess im just trying to know what im comprimising before pulling the trigger

end of year ive seen some vidoes with ppl saying new tech will be coming for the oleds that will be a big change

[tribal spire]

With your PC (that one day I intend to copy) and light situation, glossy QD-OLED feels like the least compromise

[tranquil arch]

something about subpixel changes on the WOLEDS i think

[tranquil arch]

ight ill really look into this, what monitor would be your suggestion?

[tribal spire]

It's not atrocious even with those

Again, it's tradeoffs

For a bright room, I'd rather recommend WOLED because of the higher brightness levels

But for you QD-OLED makes more sense because you don't have a lot of light to deal woth

[tribal spire]

Look for 1440p glossy QD-OLED

I believe the Evnia 27" has a glossy screen

Lemme check

[tranquil arch]

I’ve never heard of them before

[tribal spire]

It's an "anti-reflection" 2H coating for then

Not quite full glossy, but not matte

I think it'd be great for you

@tranquil arch Philips Evnia 27M2N8500

Check out that one

It's like

Super good with latency
Has amazing color like all the other QD-OLEDs

And it's reasonable price more than likely

[tranquil arch]

Ok cool I’ll check it out rn!

Isn’t this 360hz with DP 1.4 too?

@tribal spire

[tribal spire]

You can use HDMI 2.1

Or set it to 240hz refresh and lose effectively nothing

[tranquil arch]

What’s the difference between doing it here and on the dell? Just trying to learn

[tribal spire]

The panel is technically capable of more

I guess it's just implementation tbf

[tranquil arch]

Dell one could go into hdmi 2.1 though also no? seems like both would be leaving performance on the table

I doubt I’ll be pushing 360 hz anytime soon either way lol

[tribal spire]

Yeah 240 is a great compromise with Displayport as there's only ~15% compression which is not going to be noticable

And HDMI 2.1 can do 240hz without any DSC

So just setting your refresh rate to 240 using HDMI 2.1 is basically zero downside

[tranquil arch]

Ok cool so either would be good it just comes down to the finish it sounds like then

[tribal spire]

Even with Displayport it's not gonna be an issue ye

Ultimately I think you'd love the Evnia

But any 1440p QD-OLED would be lovely for you methinks

[tranquil arch]

ight cool! ty for the help. sorry about all of the questions!

[tribal spire]

Nah ur chill man

Glad to help

@tranquil arch you gotta share pics of the setup once you get it tho

In #build-pics

[tranquil arch]

will do! im weighing it all out atm i jsut built this system so im trying to decide if i wanna do some smaller upgrades with peripherals (new keyboard) and wait it out till next year for the monitor to see what they are able to come out with I currently have a dell 1440 IPS 165hz display so im not dying to upgrade just really considering it haha

if i dont do it now it will likely get done within a year or so's time

[tribal spire]

You can split the difference with something like the Xiaomi miniLED IPS

It's still gonna have great colors, but since it has full-array local dimming, it'll actually be able to do HDR

[tranquil arch]

hmm ok that ill deff look into it looks like its around 190$. i was considering the AOC model as well but this looks like its just better

[tribal spire]

Ye it's an upgrade to the AOC

[tranquil arch]

looks like the only difference is the AOC is better for console gaming, which i dont do. crazy bc its like 70$ cheaper

so if i use local dimming mode would that mean that i would be using HDR mode?

[tribal spire]

Yeah if you enable HDR, it's automatically gonna start enabling backlight zones iirc

But don't quote me on that

[tranquil arch]

how does that work out? seems like the xiaomi should actually be better.

is it jsut the methodology difference?

[visual pilot]

Most likely yes, pretty sure they overhauled everything with methodology v2

[tranquil arch]

hmm ok so this isnt a very good way to compare.

If im not going OLED which im still undecided on it would be between the AOC Q27 and the Xiaomi it looks like they are pretty dang even just the Xiaomi is like 60-70$ cheaper

nvm that was not the same model

[visual pilot]

It makes some sense in the context of 240hz being exotic at the time of them making methodology V1, and now 360hz is a consumer option that people actually buy lol

[rocky cypress]

yeah rtings says that (in general) different versions of methodologies can not be directly compared (unless the version change didnt change that specific test)

[maiden wagon]

Alright yall I need some montior reccomdations for my 3070 cause my omen 27 qs seems to be kicking the bucket. I am looking for a 1440p montior 360hz or 240 hz. And I want the colors to be almost spot on what not I am just looking for a good montior as a hole that will work with my 3070

[tribal spire]

how much do you plan to spend on it?

[maiden wagon]

500 to 600 max

[tribal spire]

Philips Evnia 27" QD-OLED iirc is 550

[maiden wagon]

I doubt there are many at that price point

[tribal spire]

This one

[maiden wagon]

Alright gotcha

You used this one?

And my 3070 should be able to run this just fine?

[small warren]

To run 360hz in full bit rate you will want dual input

3070 doesn't have the bandwidth to run that over a single cable

[maiden wagon]

So two display ports?

[small warren]

If you really want it yes

I can think of like maybe 2 games that will run 360hz 1440p well on that card

Lol

[maiden wagon]

Ok umm got and 240 hz ones then?

Ones you have personally used

[small warren]

AOC has a $500 oled available in oled or qdoled

[small warren]

I mean I've used a few, the 360hz ones are foreign to me, got no interest in them is the main reason why

[maiden wagon]

Oh no talking 240

[small warren]

Most 240hz oleds for 1440p are lg panels rebranded as another monitor

I have used those

[maiden wagon]

Got links to your favorites? Cause like I said image is one thing that would be nice my omen 27 qs was good for awhile but for some reason I been getting these random black screening. And says no display so I can't tell if it's the montior or my card. Cause I did get a new display port for it but it didn't fix it so I can't seem to figure out the issue

And i don't think it's my card cause my entire system is still running when the black screening and then no display shows on the montior so it can't be power loss? I don't think

And i made sure my display ports were secure

[small warren]

Pick one of these two
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#sort=price&D=240000,600000&r=256001440&X=0,50000&m=3,143

[small warren]

Random black screening could be dying cable

Seen that 100 times before

[maiden wagon]

Odd cause I bought a new one form best buy

[small warren]

How long is the cable

[maiden wagon]

Let me look

[tribal spire]

that has significant issues

with like color accuracy

[small warren]

It doesn't

People are overstating the tint effect of gen 1

[small warren]

Cables over 3m or 10ft are suspect to cut out if not fiber optic

The black screening you would be seeing would be related if so

[tribal spire]

it's not a panel issue but a factory setting issue

[maiden wagon]

This the new cable I use the 5 create one

[tribal spire]

even with the sRGB mode on

[maiden wagon]

I know it says 8k lol but that's what it can support but I know my card won't get near that lol

[tribal spire]

Properly calibrated it's good, but that's additional expense

[maiden wagon]

Does this help at all build?

I can also send the specs to on my omen see if that helps?

[small warren]

Would appreciate multiple sources here instead of 1

Factory calibration is as expected of oled at srgb mode

[tribal spire]

IDK how they got it that high

But Reddit is full of complaints on it

Now yes

That IS reddit

[small warren]

I checked multiple reviews, only that one review had the 5.7E delta

[small warren]

Cos stock is saturated

Srgb is not

This is nothing new, ten years ago every tv brand did this to sell tvs

[tribal spire]

I mean over 2 is supposedly not considered factory calibrated

[small warren]

Srgb is under 2

[tribal spire]

Thing is that it's persistent in all picture mode according to users of the panel on reddit

Without calibration everything is red tinted in any mode

unless you like

Manually dial down reds by like 5

[small warren]

Well you've got three calibration sources vs 1 saying it's fine with colorimeters

It's literally just another rebranded qd oled

It's not a different unique panel lmao

[tribal spire]

You can mess up a good panel with bad settings

[small warren]

Again, the factory srgb mode is fine

[tribal spire]

At like 25 bucks more I'd still say the Philips is good

Nobody who has it complains

AOC also has exceptionally bad VRR flicker allegedly

I'd personally consider that tiny difference worth it

[small warren]

He can't run the Phillips

[tribal spire]

but that is still OLED pricing so whatever

[tribal spire]

Downset to 240?

[small warren]

His gpu won't do 360hz

[tribal spire]

We had this talk

You lose literally nothing downsetting to 240hz

[small warren]

Why pay for something you can't use tho when the predator is literally right there for 500 as well lmao

[tribal spire]

does the 3070 not have DP1.4?

[small warren]

It won't do 360hz full colour

[small warren]

He wants full colour

[tribal spire]

240hz

[small warren]

Why are you trying to upsell over the better predator

[tribal spire]

Not that he can run any OLED at full refresh rate over 1.4 without DSC but it's your money

[small warren]

Lol

[maiden wagon]

I could also try to do more trouble shooting on my omen to but most of the things I tried don't seem to work

[tribal spire]

WOLED is not better with color

[small warren]

Wtf

[tribal spire]

Predator is WOLED???

[small warren]

What the hell posts have you been reading 😂

WOLED is the best at colour

[tribal spire]

WOLED is brightness advantage tho?

[small warren]

There is only matching it on QD

No

Back to front

QD has the brightness

[tribal spire]

X

[small warren]

Also again

We talked about this

Hdmi 2.1

More bandwidth

[tribal spire]

I think you have it backwards Felix

[small warren]

38.4 vs 32

[tribal spire]

The whole point of the white subpixel is brightness boosting at the cost of color volume

[small warren]

Qd oled is the one that can run 1000 nits without burn, woled is the one that cannot

I literally spent months on this

[maiden wagon]

Oh that is another thing I got a question for is hdmi vs display I am not sure which one is best so I figured i ask that to

[small warren]

2.1 hdmi on your 3070

Only if your monitor supports it

[tribal spire]

HDMI for this ye

2.1 is really nice

[small warren]

?ddu

[dapper socket]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[small warren]

Try this

Btw william if you're on nvidia drivers 572

Roll back to 566 or older

[maiden wagon]

I think my Xbox series s has a hdmi one that would work for it yeah?

[small warren]

Ye

[maiden wagon]

Ok good

[small warren]

Please note the above psa

[maiden wagon]

And yeah I heard all about this to

[tribal spire]

As per RTings

[small warren]

Newest nvidia drivers cause black screen issues on 30 series

[maiden wagon]

I think this started before this though

[tribal spire]

how hold on tho

Now I don't get it

WOLED is SUPPOSED to get brighter overall because of the dedicated white subpixel

so then how can QD-OLED beat it in brightness?

[small warren]

Again you have it backwards 😂

[tribal spire]

I'm reading Rtings tho?

like I don't understand that part in particular

[small warren]

Cos qdoled gets brighter it can achieve a wider gamut

[tribal spire]

cuz the whole point was to boost brightness with the white subpixel

[small warren]

At the same brightness woled is still better

[tribal spire]

That makes

Absolutely no effing sense

[small warren]

It makes total sense wtf

[tribal spire]

No????

It makes zero sense

[small warren]

Seriously

Go read any monitor with qd oled

1000 nits

Half the woled are 400 nit

Completely different

[tribal spire]

but how can WOLED beat QD at the same brightness on color?

there's no logic to it

the whole point of quantum dots is to be REALLY good at making colors

my brain is exploding

[small warren]

Because that's not how it works LOL

If the quantum dot serves the purpose of colour then OLED DOESN'T NEED TO EXIST

IT BECOMES QLED

[tribal spire]

Then present your case

If you're so confident

then explain it

[small warren]

The quantum dot layer is to separate the brightness producing layer from the bioluminescence layer

There are literal papers on this

[maiden wagon]

I will do a rollback tonight snice it's simple then uninstalling all them haha

Just going to do the properties thing on my gpu

And then rollback. Hopefully they can eventually fix this

If this does fix my issue then this be huge for me

Oops lol

Hopefully it doesn't mess with my hunt showdown stuff cause I am not sure when the supported stuff came out for it at least driver wise

August 6th 2024

Not sure what driver that was

But it should be old enough

[tribal spire]

Also I realized what skews my view on the Philips

It's at like 30% discount compared to the Acer or AOC

[maiden wagon]

So let's see do hdmi cable for my omen i should still get the 240 hz right? And then rollback to the driver you all told me about

Actually let me just share the specs for the omen

Here we are

Anything I have to worry about here guys?

[tribal spire]

HDMI 2.0 won't run it at full refresh without DSC iirc

oh just

Not at all

[maiden wagon]

Ok then

[tribal spire]

unless it does dual inputs of which I'm not sure

[maiden wagon]

Might just get a new one anyway then

Especially if hdmi is better

But is the hard choice phillps downgraded to 240 hz or the acer predator

[maiden wagon]

Yep my omen does support duel inputs

[tribal spire]

whichever is cheaper at the time of purchase

it is the same panel iirc

[tribal spire]

then it might be fine

[maiden wagon]

Yeah like I said I think I will do the safe route first rollback to the 566 or whatever till they fix their 572

If ever

Cause if that fixes my montior issue i will be a happy camper

If not then it's time for a new montior

[maiden wagon]

this the driver I should be on?

@small warren

[visual pilot]

566 is pre 572 so it's fine

[maiden wagon]

ok so I will stick to this verison for now then

I wonder if they will ever fix 572

or keep breaking it more

[visual pilot]

most likely the bugs in 572 will be fixed one by one slowly but surely

[turbid star]

I hear 566.14 is pretty good

[radiant quail]

I'm looking at OLED monitors and haven't been able to decide what I want. I've read and watched reviews for over a month now. I figure maybe I should get one before tariffs cause price increases. I was thinking of either 3440x1440 240Hz OLED or 5120x1440Hz OLED. At this point I'm beginning to think that basically all of them are the same and the main differences are screen coatings, connectors, and features like anti burn in/pixel refresh. I'd be putting it on a VESA mount monitor arm on my desk, so the stand doesn't matter.

[fossil gust]

Yeah, pretty sure the panels themselves are made by the same manufacturer

[wild birch]

yo guys, is it even worth buying high refresh rate monitors (360hz+) if u cant achieve stable fps at that rate?
even tho u do get reduced input lag (200fps on 360hz VS 200fps on 240hz), I would think that, during high-action fights, the drop from 360 to 200 would be really jarring compared to 240 to 200.
plus, you don't really benefit from the reduced input delay if you just don't have high fps most of the time right

[errant edge]

The difference between 240 and 360 is much less noticeable than 60 to 144/165

Even 144-240 isn't a huge difference for most people

Unless you play competitively (like, tournaments, or for a job,) 360hz is kinda silly unless it's an oled

[wild birch]

got it ty

[eternal torrent]

Anybody know anything about: https://www.newegg.com/aoc-cq27g4x-27-qhd-180-hz-va-black/p/N82E16824160528?

[eternal torrent]

AOC claims 93.1% DCI-P3, 127.8 sRGB and 89.2 Adobe RGB on their website

[fossil gust]

they're also claiming an 80,000,000:1 contrast ratio

[eternal torrent]

Their static is 4000:1 on the website

[fossil gust]

that seems much more normal for VA

[eternal torrent]

Dynamic is just silly numbers, there is a monitor claiming 100,000,000:1

Apparently it is the 1440p version of a Best Buy only 1080p monitor?

[eternal torrent]

Imma take the plunge and buy one.

[maiden wagon]

but looks like 566 might now be it I am thinking its my montior

[brisk oxide]

So how cautious is too cautious with OLED monitors? Like right now I am just turning it off when I am not gaming. But if I was web browsing or watching YouTube/Twitch on there, is that ok? I am just trying to kind of find the middle ground.

[visual pilot]

MSI recent changed their timer for the forced refresh cycle to be once for 24hr of continuous use instead of 16hr of continuous use lol

You don't have to be shutting it off between games

Do a refresh cycle when it gives you a reminder

[brisk oxide]

I'm not using MSI, I think if I was reading the manual right it's going to refresh every 4 hours or maybe 8

yeah it's 6-8 minutes every four hours

[tribal spire]

Going 12 hours a day and then leaving it in standby allows for enough refresh cycles right?

[visual pilot]

Yes, but the panels they're using are the same, it's an example for just how long you have to leave it on continuously for before MSI thinks you're abusing it, as the company that has to honor the warranty

[visual pilot]

May want to check monitor settings to make sure the auto run refresh cycle on standby or shutdown or whatever is enabled but theoretically yes

[tribal spire]

So if the setting is enabled, it SHOULD be enough to do it when I turn off the PC

Fascinating

[misty gyro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpE7kT2lbU4

[turbid star]

But muh reflections

[brisk oxide]

The OLED I got is in-between glossy and matte, i was expecting more reflections but it's been solid so far

even with my RGB build right next to it, it's hardly noticeable

[brisk oxide]

Can refresh rate impact FPS? For instance, if I'm playing a game that can barely run at 70 to 80 FPS and I have the refresh rate set to 144 or higher. Could that cause stuttering or FPS drops?

[fossil gust]

It can potentially cause tearing. Make sure you have freesync turned on on both both the monitor and gpu settings

[brisk oxide]

Yeah I do, I'm just having a lot of performance issues in control and it's annoying figuring out the cause

[errant flax]

No FPS drops but definitely can lead to tearing if your frames are unstable.

[astral tendon]

i'm looking to get a 31" or 32" monitor for gaming, what should I get if i have a 6750xt?

my budget is $300 ish but ideally I would spend around $250, idk the prices of monitors these days though

[fossil gust]

Save up for a 27" 1440p oled

I guess there's also this miniLED

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kJP8TW/aoc-q27g3xmn-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-q27g3xmn

[silent epoch]

Check this out on @Newegg:Acer Predator X27U X1bmiiphx 27" WQHD (2560 x 1440) Widescreen OLED Gaming Monitor with AMD FreeSync Premium pro, 240Hz Refresh Rate, 0.03ms Response Time, 1000nits @ HDR 3%, DCI-P3 99%, Delta E<2, (1 x Display Port 1.4, 2 x ... https://www.newegg.com/acer-x27u-x1bmiiphx-27-wqhd-240-hz-predator-qd-oled-black/p/N82E16824011520

Only $500

[hidden cairn]

https://us.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-27C6F/Overview

is this a good buy

oop wrong one

https://us.msi.com/Monitor/MAG-274CQF

if this isn't a good buy, i need a 27" WQHD(1440x2560), 1500R curved montior with a refresh rate above 160Hz, and support for at least DCI-P3 color gamut

[visual pilot]

if you want curved, it's basically all going to be cheap va panels

which usually won't get you full dci p3 coverage

[visual pilot]

how much dci-p3 coverage are you looking for

[hidden cairn]

like 80%+? mostly just gonna use it for photoshop/illustrator tho ngl

but also 1440p gaming

planning to retire my good 1080p montior to secondary and my viewsonic to tertiary

[visual pilot]

the only thing curved that might be reasonably priced that rtings has measured dci-p3 coverage to be over 80% is g32qc

but that seems to be out of stock, maybe discontinued

[hidden cairn]

also msi ig?

[visual pilot]

gigabyte

[hidden cairn]

bet

[visual pilot]

gs27qc is measured to be 75% coverage

all the gs models tend to be worse panels, even though that seems to be all that are in stock rn

[hidden cairn]

ooh 31.5"

awgh i hate the way gigabyte designs their product pages

makes me physically ill

[violet mango]

looking for some opinions on 2 monitors

I have the G6s60 and I'm thinking of returning it for the G80SD or the LG32GS95UV

[visual pilot]

So you have a g60sd right now and want to swap for g80sd or LG 32GS95UV? What are you looking for in the swap?

[violet mango]

Well I assume the higher resoltuion is going to be nice. I have the return period right now, and seeing they're a few hundred more i'm wondering if it's worth the jump up

[visual pilot]

What GPU do you have right now, what are you looking to do on the monitors, and do you have any way of taking a look at them before you buy it?

[violet mango]

MSI 5080 Vanguard

[visual pilot]

yea 5080 is basically the minimum you'll want to have a decent gaming experience at 4k lol, should be fine, but what are you planning on using the monitor to do?

[violet mango]

Some gaming, truthfully nothing too crazy, just wondering if its worth the jump up. Obviously going 699 to over 1k is a steep sell. That's why I wanted to see if there was any real world experience with either monitor.

Or, if y'all even though this was worth it.

[visual pilot]

The differences between the monitors is mainly gonna come down to what you'll do on those monitors, the LG panel's 1080p480 dual mode is very cool if you want to do comp games while still enjoying some content or games at 4k, the VRR flicker may be a little more annoying if you'll be doing just 4k gaming and want to use g-sync on games you won't hit fps near the refresh rate, and the multi input PIP/PBP stuff on the Samsung monitor may be useful if you'll just be watching content on it and/or using it for work with multiple computers.

[visual pilot]

Best idea is always to get your own experience if it whenever possible, look around at local stores if you can get a peek at something similar to either of the monitors before making the purchase, even if you can return things, it's annoying.

[astral tendon]

Got any models in particular I should shoot for?

[fossil gust]

whatever's cheapest I believe. The oled panels themselves are pretty much the same/made by the same manufacturer

$500 is fairly standard, under that is a deal

the miniLED is $300 now so if you don't go oled I'd just get a 1440p ips or va

[errant flax]

How is this monitor?

https://www.newegg.com/p/3D4-007C-00005

[maiden wagon]

I see theres another update on nivida did this offically fix things or not yet

[visual pilot]

short term seems fixed, I'd wait a bit longer and see if any reports of problems keep coming in though

[maiden wagon]

how long you thinking?

[visual pilot]

give it a week and see if people complain about it

[warm mica]

Anyone know why my monitor does this on YouTube?

[fossil gust]

"ambient mode" in yt playback settings

[warm mica]

Oh dang alright didnt know that was on thank you

[fossil gust]

yeah they introduced it a while ago and it's on by default for some reason

might look better on an oled idk

[warm mica]

Thank you

[rocky cypress]

It looks way better on my LCD than that ong

[ebon aspen]

Are gas-type monitor arms the best type?

[hidden cairn]

Personally I don't know of a better option

[rocky cypress]

1000% if you want something adjustable on the fly

if you want to mount monitors that can't move, then they aren't ideal

but for the most part, most people would benefit from the freedom of movement with a gas spring monitor arm

i use one and it's quite nice

[thick scaffold]

Any good deals on gaming monitors less than $150? 27" 1440p above 144hz

maybe even 1080p

[fossil gust]

Not seeing any new under $165 on pcpp but you could check out Acer Refurbished on eBay (it's their offical store)

Oh it's just Acer actually

https://www.ebay.com/itm/256473934966?

[thick scaffold]

ty

[fossil gust]

Looks like a pretty basic VA panel but hey it's $120 shipped

Bit more expensive but 350nit ips
https://www.ebay.com/itm/266634957576?

[thick scaffold]

i think the earlier one will be fine

[thick scaffold]

This better? MSI 27" QHD Curved Gaming Monitor | MAG 27CQ6PF - $129.99 - Free shipping for Prime members https://computers.woot.com/offers/msi-27-qhd-curved-gaming-monitor-mag-27cq6pf-2?utm_medium=share&utm_source=app

[fossil gust]

IPS will have less black smearing but worse contrast

[thick scaffold]

How bad will the black smearing be on the VA?

Tbf I’ve never experienced bad backlight bleeding

[tribal spire]

In my experience VA has AWFUL black smearing

Like so badly distracting it ain't even funny

[thick scaffold]

So maybe the IPS is better?

It’s only $10 more and is free shipping from Amazon

Woots got quite a bit of monitors on sale rn

[tribal spire]

What monitor is it?

Cuz it highly depends on model

[thick scaffold]

This

Basically his only requirements are 144hz & 27” & <$130USD

[tribal spire]

Ah
Then IPS

IME
Cheap VAs suck more compared to cheap IPS than more pricey VAs suck to their own IPS competitors

[thick scaffold]

Then is this a good option?

[tribal spire]

Think so

[gilded aurora]

whats a good 240hz oled 1440p monitor?

[fossil gust]

the cheapest one

except maybe the cooler master tempest, it had some rough firmware issues (but i think they may have fixed them?)

[gilded aurora]

is the LG ultragear 27 inch good? its the 27gs95qe is it a good oled or do i buy a differentone

[fossil gust]

PCPartPicker -> OLED -> sort by price -> make sure there isn't a bunch of Reddit threads complaining about firmware

The panels themselves are all from the same manufacturer afaik

[hidden cairn]

need good recommendations for two things: montiors and monitor arms. specifically looking for a 27" 1440p, 1500R curved with 170Hz+ refresh. it'll be used primarily for gaming but also photoshop/illustrator and video editing. monitor arm wise all i want is a gas spring and both single- and dual-monitor options. cable routing would also be nice.

[blazing gyro]

Hello
Can someone recommend a good 27-32" monitor

[silent epoch]

great monitor. get it. the only downside is the screen is dimmer than most screens. but everuthing e;se ios worth it

[hidden cairn]

me asking a question and waiting 4 days for no answer😔

[rocky cypress]

All the active techies that did hardware reccs left pretty much

I personally use huanuo monitor arms and they are great for the price

[median mantle]

https://www.newegg.com/lg-27gl83a-b-27-qhd-144-hz-ultragear-ips/p/N82E16824026281R

Thoughts on this?

[quiet finch]

Pg32ucdp vs msi curx (msi curved) which is best? especially in terms of visuals

https://a.co/d/e6TCdoA

https://www.newegg.com/global/il-en/msi-mpg-321curx-qd-oled-32-uhd-240-hz-metallic-black-rgb/p/N82E16824475451?srsltid=AfmBOopMXj2mEqyATnZGrWLdMbudFf62ch9iMwSei_O0r5MIUlnNLYmz&source=f

I really rather to have a curved monitor

[quiet finch]

Also considering 322URX, seems to be the updated version of the msi I showed

[quiet finch]

from my research, there is a slight diffrence and the asus one is the best, the 322urx not worth the extra price for the 2.1a thingy as the display is pretty much the same as the 1.4 eventually

i cant go without curved i have decided, so i picked the 321curx curved one :] order is being processed rn from newegg 😄

[median mantle]

Um yeah I've had MSI monitors in the past. Monitors aren't really their "thing" I would go Asus or LG or Samsung.

View Sonic also makes some badass stuff.

Def don't get Gigabyte, they make decent motherboards and other cool stuff but not monitors.

[quiet finch]

you're giving me a little bit of a scare lol.. i wanted a curved 32" 4k qd oled and msi 321curx seemed like the best choice

i rather curved than flat despite the fact the asus one is abit better

[median mantle]

Well just research the technology behind it. OLED is dangerous because you have to cool the diodes well or they will burn up. Asus has some great cooling tech and so does Samsung.

I have no idea what MSI uses but if they don't advertise it that's not a good sign.

[quiet finch]

msi oled care 2.0

[median mantle]

Well that just refreshes the panel it looks like.

I'm talking about cooling.

Looks like Samsung has some kind of heatpipes.

[quiet finch]

also this

[median mantle]

Hmm

[quiet finch]

seems like a better cooling tech than the alienware one

which uses a fan

[median mantle]

Oh yeah nah Dell ain't it.

lol

That fan gon die in bout 3 years.

Passive won't die. No moving parts.

[fossil gust]

[fossil gust]

Both gigabyte and Dell have some great monitor models

[median mantle]

Oh sure do your own research, the statements I give are based on my personal experience with these brands using that specific set of hardware from them.

I think almost any big brand has some product that is successful & is a quality product otherwise they wouldn't be a big brand.

[lapis lynx]

I've had my curved ViewSonic 32 inch 1440p since 2020. Still runs great.

The speakers aren't the best though wouldn't be able to use it as a TV. Not very loud.

[median mantle]

Here we have a live review that Viewsonic does indeed make good monitors.

[fossil gust]

*makes one good monitor

Most brands have both good models and bad models (especially for monitors) so it's best to just almost ignore the brand

Look up rtings reviews for specific models

[thorn fulcrum]

Can I turn any monitor vertical

and can anybody find me 2 monitors that are decent price I want one to be 240-300hz and another one can be like 120hz cause that one gonna be vertical

[rocky cypress]

It's in the os settings yeah

common OSs will be able to rotate

[quasi minnow]

https://a.co/d/6jfJKzh how’s this monitor?

[quasi minnow]

Or this https://a.co/d/etoPcz4

[fossil gust]

Koorui makes an excellent flat ips panel, not sure about their curved VA though

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DqQKHx/koorui-24e3-240-1920-x-1080-165-hz-monitor-24e3

$150+ gets you 1440p which if your gpu can handle it is a great upgrade

[quasi minnow]

Should I get that one you linked or this https://a.co/d/aVnyzLN

This has a higher image ratio

It is curved tho

[fossil gust]

That's VA so it will have a higher contrast ratio but also have more smearing in motion. Up to you if the benefits outweigh the drawbacks

[quasi minnow]

If it’s too noticeable then I’d probably go for a cheaper straight

I might just. Go for the curved

[quasi minnow]

Couldn’t I also just lower my refresh rate

[fossil gust]

?

[visual pilot]

VA ghosting is more a quirk of the type of panel rather than the higher refresh rate, lowering refresh rate would make it look worse

[quasi minnow]

So am I cooked 😭

I’ll get a ips

Save a little money

[quasi minnow]

This monitor has pretty bad reviews

[fossil gust]

What?

The ips one is good

https://youtu.be/9Q_9LVW2Rl4?si=gKjXaJ-9fTXyfXZb

https://youtu.be/yAkzOOpiMgs?si=0wNAUl8aO5FCNlqR

https://youtu.be/VypONR_omEY?si=SeB1kuzNVOjwDs_a

https://youtu.be/VkSLFERheYU?si=nzXbQJJNJhVKAod8

[quasi minnow]

Okay nevermind sorry I doubted it

[fossil gust]

https://youtu.be/xPBgtG70Ta8?si=QBRnifblyQHCohLu

It used to actually be $100, but even for $120 it's a good pick

[quasi minnow]

Fair

[stuck sage]

Does anyone know how custom res settings work? I'm trying to create a different aspect ratio under my adrenalin software but I get an error saying my settings aren't compatible with the display. Not sure if that means I can't create a custom resolution or if I'm just doing something wrong with the settings

[fossil gust]

I'd try CRU

https://customresolutionutility.net/

[stuck sage]

Thank you!

[cerulean mountain]

You guys think I should try and degauss this or is it too far gone?

[jade burrow]

What 2k 144hz ips monitors do you guys suggest?

[fossil gust]

2k as in 1920x1080p? Or 2.5k (2560x1440p)?

[jade burrow]

1440p

[fossil gust]

I would go check rtings.com and see if any of these are good

If not, then this is a bit more expensive but a pretty solid model
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mWMMnQ/dell-g2725d-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-g2725d

[jade burrow]

Aight thx mate

[sharp owl]

is the Xiaomi 2K G27Qi EU a good 1440p high hz monitor? because the price is insane

[brazen hedge]

Hey does anyone know if the two DP cables that come with the PG27CDM are 2.1 and 1.4?

[visual pilot]

reportedly so from the rtings review for the pg27ucdm

[hidden cairn]

https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GS27QC-Monitor-Response-FreeSync/dp/B0CCSX399J/ref=sr_1_16?crid=2YVSF118AALN&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.tqEJBsUBO_yuQmX_IXRl77RDlGHQuNqgcywmffC2-070pG3-XYl5nuYEXk1IO5hDo1I_lznC1hqVUxU_-3ojwxS1rqAv9rFu6s4JrUdeSUvsSbaFAi0445hsHYyAfy5hmi_2pwMf8JRqKiq7Sg6AoSbB5TQXUt6ut8mMBLYuRjOG6QoOtzByL7qlpglGRARLLkNLaVEYvM1CVneGk24OgDanZ_XsvcqkMfO5KlWdSUuDtiO8_htI_-DM9AXe_JfS4vMVTzL5mjMykdDL4suckvYYUF5O72kJsZI2efQ8f5E.9FDPBnrnPi4OKhJMZloTQ9pUpTN7VIHNsgUXHtXZCFc&dib_tag=se&keywords=1440p%2Bmonitor&nav_sdd=aps&qid=1747796290&refinements=p_n_feature_eleven_browse-bin%3A17726574011%2Cp_n_feature_twenty_browse-bin%3A72511692011&s=pc&sprefix=1440p&sr=1-16&th=1 this any good?

[white niche]

Monitor arm?

[icy jetty]

ok so like ive been running a trio of completely different monitors, i have a M27Q from gigabyte, and i love it, but i would like 2 other monitors same RES possibly same Refresh not exactly needed, but like idk what kind of deals are around for 2 1440p monitors for like decently cheap

[fossil gust]

3 cheapest 27in 1440p IPS high refresh available

There's also Acer refurbished on ebay. I've gotten some imperfections (partially dead pixel and debris) in mine before but they can be really cheap, good as a second/third display

$100, though only 100hz

https://ebay.us/m/ez12Gy

[winged meteor]

any recommendations for a monitor that supports HDR with decent refresh rate and color?

[visual pilot]

What's your budget and what are you going to use it for?

[winged meteor]

Not trying to spend an arm and a leg but Id be using it as my main monitor. I currently have an AOC curved 2k but it doesnt support hdr and has pretty poor refresh rate and response time

plus its too big for what I want lol

[visual pilot]

Any ballpark budget estimates? $200? $300? $500+?

That'd determine if OLED would be a good option and if you'd just be chasing down hdr400 or maybe doing hdr1000

[winged meteor]

tbh im unsure of whats different between hdr 400-1000

[visual pilot]

It's just the peak brightness

[winged meteor]

I see

[visual pilot]

But hdr400 is the "cheap" certification too that can easily be gotten

[winged meteor]

I mean I guess 500 would be my limit atm

[visual pilot]

OLED with hdr400 true black or whatever it's called will be a better experience for example