old-monitors-and-tv

[torpid notch]

yeah hopefully

but

how could i change the 60 to 144hz?

[small warren]

In the same place you turned on hdr

Go down to like

Is it, advanced display options?

It will have subtext that says "refresh rate"

Change it from 60 to 144

Make sure your games are off first

[torpid notch]

i did that when i got the monitor

its 144 on my pc

[small warren]

Then you're running 144

[torpid notch]

oh

okay

[small warren]

The game itself might not hit 144

[torpid notch]

but like it says 60 in cs2

[small warren]

Ye then change cs2 settings

If it's set to 144 in windows settings then the screen is running 144

The game would need to be adjusted

[torpid notch]

ah k

let me turn on fps counter

cant find it but it looks good so yeah thx

[small warren]

Lol np

You'll definitely notice 60 > 144

So if you can feel it then it should've worked

Things feel wayyyy smoother

[small canopy]

Anyone know a good desk mount for the 27GR83Q-B

[torpid notch]

lets see lool i just finished all my work for my classes so i can really try the monitor

[torpid notch]

im not even able to push 100 fps in rust

[small warren]

Turn your graphics down

You should be able to hit 144 at 1440

[errant flax]

Agreed lmao. 60fps feels choppy ASF since I switched to 144. Even more so now that I can consistent 144+ fps in all my games.

[small canopy]

It’s rust, nobody hits 144 on 1440p

It’s not a hardware bottleneck it’s software

I have a friend that has a 4090 and hits 170 on 1440p

Tbf this is in high pop servers

[fossil gust]

I don't personally play but I've heard rust is poorly optimized

[torpid notch]

yea guess so

[torpid notch]

it is down ;(((

i was averageing 100 but when i got into actual fights it would go down a bit

also

when i open minecraft my entire monitor becomes like darker

wait i think thats cus hdr gets turnt off

[small canopy]

I get around 130 with a 3060 ti and 13600k on 1440p. At this point on rust, I am convinced hardware beyond a certain point does not produce higher performance

[small canopy]

Should be the opposite?

[torpid notch]

its supprisingly such a heavy game

[torpid notch]

idek lmfao

[small canopy]

It is why I hope for rust sequel as it was teased due to unity problems. New engine would make the game run great

[small canopy]

Ngl a ram upgrade is everything for rust

20-30 fps boost from high ddr4 ram to mid range ddr5

I would get ddr5 but I need new board and mine is only a year old 😢

[small warren]

Ram bottleneck huh

Usually X3D can be stupid good in those situations

[small canopy]

Maybe

Hitting 240 refresh in rust is just impossible.

😭

[small warren]

Yep it seems I'm right

https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/s/CzQikDaOdW

It's a cache limit

What cpu have you got

In these situations learning some ram OC can give an enormous boost

[small canopy]

Most unity games run better with x3d, hmm

[small warren]

Idk if I'd say unity in general

But in this case you have a cache bottleneck

Cache and ram are hand in hand

So better ram would indeed mean a buff to fps

But you can get far better results from some light tuning than that of a new kit altogether

Unless the kit you have to begin with is dogwater

Typically any 3200/3600 kit should see a pretty significant lift even if it's 1% or 0.1% lows

[small canopy]

Yeah I'm running a 13600k and a 3600 kit.

[small warren]

Z board or b board

[small canopy]

Z

[small warren]

Running the safe numbers from integral's ddr4 OC guide would be a good start then

It's a light experiment that way, you can do some simple testing like anta777's TM5 config or instead a few hours of y cruncher VST

See if it goes up

At the very least you'd see a good lift to your lows which matter more in the scheme of things

[small canopy]

I stopped playing rust once I hit 1500 hrs, but I would be interested to see fs. I'm not the best with ram stuff and I will probably get my pc in a boot loop but I'll lyk how much of a performance boost I get 😅

[small warren]

Make a backup of your windows before you begin

Would recommend macrium reflect free edition

I don't think you'd have much issues as long as you stick to the safe column though

And check your work with ram tests

It's a bit like...

I'd say a cheat sheet?

It does most of the work for you

[torpid notch]

frr im currently using 16 gigs of idk what ram lmfao and it always uses all of it

i would oc my ram but ive got no clue how to do it

also felix i think i figgured out why my cs2 was black screening

i think its bc my monitor is 2560x1440 and cs is 2048x1440

[small canopy]

I know nothing abt it, i will try

[near temple]

if u have any free USB stick, u could use readyboost on it to speed up your PC

[fading wyvern]

[small warren]

That sounds

So sus

[misty gyro]

That worked on like, windows vista. It would only even let you use it on a modern computer if you have the minimum amount of memory for the operating system, and even then it needs to be a very fast USB.

[near temple]

oh, sorry i didn't know. ig that's why it didn't work on my pc too.

[mint mica]

Im looking for a good monitor my limit is $150 any suggestions?

[torpid notch]

hey bob, im bob!

[errant edge]

what gpu do you have?

[mint mica]

Nvidia 1650 super

[errant edge]

i linked one in electronics

[mint mica]

thanks

[torpid notch]

this monitors aawsome

but hdr is really cool also like it makes everything look so much better

[misty gyro]

If it's done well yeah. Otherwise it'll look washed out or pale.

Basic HDR400 often isn't worth paying extra for as a result.

[raw ingot]

hdr 400

more like fakedr

[silent epoch]

Haha yes

[kindred umbra]

what nits is the current woled monitor rated at ?

[real chasm]

good monitor for a 6700? https://www.amazon.com/BenQ-EX240-Adjustable-Brightness-Intelligence/dp/B0B3FVVL34

[potent mirage]

how can i tell if my monitor is running at 75hz or 60hz?

i found out my monitor is running at 60hz, but my monitor s2716dg says it's capable for running at 144hz https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/s2716dg

how do i enable this?

im running a ryzen 5 5600x
16 GB GDDR 4 Ram
RTX 4060 OC 8GB

ok i think my dp to hdmi and hdmi to hdmi is limiting me for actually getting a good display F

[errant edge]

In settings

Go to display settings, monitor, advanced display settings

[potent mirage]

I did all of this yesterday, cable is trash, bought a new one, just waiting for it to come in lol

[errant edge]

Ah ok

[potent mirage]

Cable was holding me back

I self diagnosed and researched, just thought there was a hack or something lmao ty thooo

[errant edge]

You could try using nvidia control panel to set a custom resolution with 144hz

Not sure if that would still be cable limited

[potent mirage]

Still is, locked at 60hz

On any resolution

[errant edge]

Ah alr

[torpid notch]

so the cable was holding you back from hiiting 144hz?

[prime sun]

How good is the lifespan of OLED compared to just standard LCD?

[silent epoch]

👀

[prime sun]

Everything i see gives weird answers

[silent epoch]

QD-OLED is very new so the life span isn't completely known, and MLA tech is supposed to be more durable than all previous generations of OLED....so hopefully a little less than 10 years till you start seeing serious burn in @prime sun

[prime sun]

Considering how expensive it is thats almost pitiful

[silent epoch]

It all depends on what content you watch and for how long

[silent epoch]

For now, burning is something that wont go away

I wouldn't really trust QD OLED that much since their pixel cleaning processes are kind of not as good as LG's MLA OLED

but like I said, they're all relatively new technology so we don't really have an idea of how long they can last

[prime sun]

It was more of a hypothetical, ill probs just stick to LCD for the time being considering that, but its good to know

[silent epoch]

YeH

[prime sun]

I dont see a world where it it wont improve with time tho

So we'll see

[silent epoch]

There are PHOLED displays hopefully coming in a year or two...the chances of burn in is even less. But screens nowadays are pretty durable. I have the 27-in LG with around (only) 1,000 hours of use and I've been doing my part with maintaining it...so far so Soo good

@prime sun

[prime sun]

Thats cool to hear

How much did the one you purchase cost?

[silent epoch]

$900

Before tax

[prime sun]

Thats fair, unfortunately im not at a point yet where i can afford that lmao

[silent epoch]

I'm paying it monthly so that helps lol @prime sun

[prime sun]

Crap yeah i cant imagine paying that much in one installment

[silent epoch]

I said the same thing

But it worth it

[prime sun]

Does your plan have interest?

[silent epoch]

Never going back

[silent epoch]

No.

If I pay in full before the due date

[prime sun]

Yee

[silent epoch]

Which I can do

[prime sun]

How much do you like it over lcd?

Ive heard a lot of good things about it

But its kinda hard to gauge an opinion for myself when you cant exactly just display it on a regular screen

[silent epoch]

Much better. You can't beat the infinite contrast, every pixel having its own backlighting, and a wider color gamut while using HDR. I only wish it was brighter though, but it's good enough.

Some scenes can be blinding

[prime sun]

Oo okay

I definitely plan on buying one in the future

[normal token]

what is comparable to this? its oos ofc https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012050?Item=N82E16824012050&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=afc-ran-com-_-PCPartPicker&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-wzptPtyQj1Bh.2uMcRJpYQ

[errant edge]

Its not a huge difference over the m27q

[errant edge]

Also you were planning to upgrade gpu fairly soon, right?

What did you have in mind if so

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p8zXsY/acer-nitro-xv1-xv271u-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-umhx1aa301
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k8GnTW/gigabyte-m27q-270-2560x1440-170-hz-monitor-m27q
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/TdbRsY/hp-omen-27qs-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-omen-27qs
I'd say any of those three

Actually this over 27qs
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lv4Zxr/acer-acer-nitro-xv272u-w2bmiiprx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhx2aa201

[normal token]

thats changed to maybe sometime mid next year I think

[errant edge]

Any idea what you'd be going for? 7900xt/4070 ti or better depending on what you do, the 240hz could be worth it

[normal token]

likely something on the amd side

so prob xt or xtx

[errant edge]

If you play competitive fps like valorant, csgo, overwatch, it could benefit you

[normal token]

not my type of games

id prefer something with really nice picture over super high refresh

i wish oled's weren't so expensive

[errant edge]

One was down to $600, but thats still twice m27q-p

[errant edge]

Could do 4k then

4k at less than 32" is debatably not worth it, but id do your research and compare the two and see which you think would be better for you https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GzWzK8/gigabyte-m28u-280-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-m28u-sa

[normal token]

if its not worth would it be more worth trying to go 1440p oled

[raw ingot]

honestly no

they're a ton more money

[normal token]

reviews for this say brightness is eh

is this an accurate video? ive always liked the hardware unboxed guys

https://youtu.be/AOF1Ye6e75o?si=2ocN4rtPTQW_TrM0

my budget is like 250-350

[potent mirage]

Have an issue with my screen if someone can help me

[surreal quarry]

would help to know the issue

[potent mirage]

Don't know how to describe e it, so a video will help

But the other side of my monitor is coming onto my main monitor

Like bleeding

[misty gyro]

Standard multi monitor things

You can set a few pixels of separation between the displays in driver settings

You might also play with the scaling settings

[potent mirage]

What would this issue be classified as?

[normal token]

@errant edge @raw ingot

[errant edge]

Yes and no

I disagree for some, I see where they're coming from on most of them though

Theyre just not always best value

Or are only good for certain people, like the m27u

27" 4k not for most people

[normal token]

so for me, like between 250$-$350, likely a 7900xt upgrade in the future, what do you recommend

if you could narrow it down to like 2-3

[errant edge]

With what you value, m27q or m27q-p

[normal token]

M27Q-P is oos

[errant edge]

Would have to be m27q unless you wait a bit

[prime sun]

Im coping so hard right now, the monitor i was gonna buy tomorrow just went up 50$ in price

And its a really nice monitor as well

[errant edge]

What monitor?

[normal token]

how long do you think

it had to of gone out of stock a few days ago

[errant edge]

Not a clue

This is a tiny bit better than m27q, but not really enough for jt to be worth $40 more
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vyqrxr/dell-g2724d-270-2560-x-1440-165-hz-monitor-g2724d

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lv4Zxr/acer-acer-nitro-xv272u-w2bmiiprx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhx2aa201 this is a bit better than m27q, and 240hz over 170 https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lv4Zxr/acer-acer-nitro-xv272u-w2bmiiprx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhx2aa201

[prime sun]

Its fine, i found another seller who has it at the price the one i had saved was initially

[errant edge]

Nice

[modest star]

I just got the X27U Predator and the monitor is suppose to be 240hz but its only letting me go up to 144hz?

[misty gyro]

Are you on displayport or HDMI?
Is it a model that's actually 240hz or one that just guarantees it will overclock to 240?

[modest star]

I tried using both

hdm1 and display port

and remained the same

with 144 hz

well im not sure if it says anything about overclocking to 240

but it says 240hz

[fading wyvern]

Have you tried going through the monitors menus?

[modest star]

I went through every mode and looked

and the monitor said

their was 240hz mode

but I couldn't change

to 240hz

I did the advanced display

and didnt see 240hz as an choice

[fading wyvern]

Welp

What gpu are you using

[modest star]

a 3060

[fading wyvern]

Maybe there’s a firmware update for the monitor available that might fix it

[modest star]

how to do that

[fading wyvern]

https://www.acer.com/us-en/support/product-support/X27U/downloads?suggest=;1

If that doesn’t do it I got nothing; switch back to dp is my suggestion and mess with color settings

[misty gyro]

You might need to set the refresh rate in nvidia control panel

[modest star]

I tried

[misty gyro]

DP for sure, make sure the cable is rated for at least DP 1.4

[modest star]

I made a custom resolution

for the native resolution but

the 240hz

and it just blackscreened

[misty gyro]

What DP cable are you using?

[modest star]

the dp cable provided with the montior

I'm going to try downloading the update darvan posted but idk how to because I have to unzip the file and theirs just a bunch of files on here

[misty gyro]

If the driver and firmware updates don't work you can try DDU next

?ddu

[dapper socket]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[modest star]

I installed the update and it didnt do anything but just gave me more updates for usb ports that I don't use

[misty gyro]

What about the firmware

[modest star]

the firmware upgrading tool didnt do anything and said I was up to date in updates

[misty gyro]

And the OSD says it's on version 2.0 already?

[modest star]

how to see that

[misty gyro]

Probably in some system setting in the monitor

I don't have an acer so idk

I generally avoid them

[modest star]

yeahh

i dont see osd

might just refund it

700$

down the drain

well

not gone

[misty gyro]

Try this first

That'll eliminate the possibility of a misbehaving driver

[modest star]

alr

I'll try

I did it

the ddu

going to install the drivers again

I finished it

I did the ddu

now wha

im still on 144hz

[fading wyvern]

Check for this mode again; you might have to change to one of the presets like “gaming”

Just mess with the settings a bit until it’s not greyed out

If it stays greyed out yeah go for a return

[modest star]

im tired

im js gon return it

get the money back

[fading wyvern]

1440p doesn’t mix well with a 3060 anyways if it makes you feel better

[normal token]

mk, im literally going from 1366x768 so anything is a huge jump lol

i think im gonna see if the m27q comes in stock in the next week or so

[obsidian oak]

Looking for a new monitor, any opinions on this? Current games are Conan, Diablo, rust, EVE, valheim. Check this out on @Newegg:GIGABYTE 32" 165Hz 2K Curved Gaming Monitor 1ms FreeSync Premium Pro, QHD 2560 x 1440, 93% DCI-P3, VESA HDR400, 1 x DisplayPort 1.2, 2 x HDMI 2,0, 2 x USB 3.0 G32QC A https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012036?Item=N82E16824012036&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-012-036-_-12312023

Shared List https://newegg.io/6b9df0a my pc.

[misty gyro]

1440p@240hz was always a pipe dream on that GPU yeah

[misty gyro]

It's ok, not great. I have the 27" model and I wish I'd spent the extra $50 on a better one.

[indigo berry]

Idk if I'm going crazy or what... Lately when playing yt videos on my monitor I see the "bands" on the sides of the screen (when a video is not 16:9) that change colour between a dark red and a dark cyan, depending on what is being displayed.
What triggers me the most is that I took a screenshot of those areas and looked at the image after, and it's not red nor blue, just dark grey. even if there's a scene where a completely black screen is displayed it still shows the two bands as not dark gray and that effect is still present.

Or at least I see them like that, don't think I'm colourblind so what is going on

It's and IPS panel btw, AOC monitor

[fading wyvern]

YouTube released a ambient mode feature pretty recently that displays the colors of the video around the player https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/12827017?

[misty gyro]

That's the default on mobile now too

It was rather annoying at first

[indigo berry]

I still find it quite annoying, because they're easily noticeable and not always the make the scene look better

[fossil gust]

If I want more immersion on my YouTube videos I use this feature called "fullscreen"

[radiant rapids]

Tried oled gaming for the first time. It’s definitely the way… I was surprised how much of an improvement it (S90C) was over my 2020 QLED (Q90T) tv.

The speed of the OLED is noticiable even at lower frame rates, it definitely feels more smooth.

Not to mention colors etc. hopefully the new models are available soon

[radiant rapids]

Feature perhaps nice to have on ultra wide

[spring urchin]

Hey I get 2 monitors both 49” ultra wide, and I don’t know how to set them up, I’m thinking on getting a desk mount, any recommendations?

[errant flax]

Assuming they aren't curved personally I would do two vertical stacked with the 2nd one at an angle so you can see them better.

Yes, monitor arms would be recommended.

[spring urchin]

Actually they are curved (both) can’t attach a picture but I have them side by side right now on an angle that I’m on the middle able to see both if I just turn my head but not the best setup

Doesn’t vertical still work with that in mind? What kind of monitor arm should I get for that?

[misty gyro]

Vertical doesn't work with curved, it screws up the viewing angles

[spring urchin]

Then I guess I will keep horizontal and I would get a non curved oled to install on top of both 🤔

[jovial violet]

Hello yall whats a good white 1440p monitor?

[small warren]

Specifically white colourway? Oh, I'd have no idea on that one

Screens a screen

Maybe get a good one with small bezels then a white vesa mount instead?

I wouldn't throw more than a few dollars for white plastic tbh

[errant flax]

Most likely yeah, otherwise I'd do Curved side by side (middle and one on left or right) or another option is one monitor in the middle and the other monitor rotated to portrait mode.

[fossil isle]

If I was going to resell how much nothing wrong with it?

[radiant rapids]

List for $125, accept $100

Just imo. You may be able to get more, but not that much more

[fossil isle]

ok thanks

[errant flax]

Anyway to reduce stuttering in the video feed when using wifi to connect to tv?

[radiant rapids]

What are you trying to do? Do you mean media playback on apps etc?

[errant flax]

For certain streaming services like MAX since I am in Mexico, I need to use a VPN and play the video from my PC. When I do this, I connect my computer to the Roku which is hooked up to the TV through WiFi.

When I do this, while I can watch my videos on the TV, sometimes the videos will have visual stutters or distortion.

[misty gyro]

Yeah, don't use wifi. It's inherently an unstable connection, which depending on the video player could cause it to detect the connection speed as lower than it is, resulting in it choosing lower quality modes or buffering.

[errant flax]

What are some other non-wired options I could use to connect to the roku then?

[radiant rapids]

Perhaps consider checking router settings. Do you have both a 2.4ghz and 5.0ghz channel? Connect both devices to the 5g channel assuming it’s not already super crowded

Also a power line adapter might work well.

[radiant rapids]

https://news.lgdisplay.com/en/2024/01/lg-display-unveils-industrys-first-480hz-qhd-gaming-oled-display-at-ces-2024/

[small warren]

Finally something 4090 worthy-oh wait, DP1.4

[errant flax]

What is the point of 480Hz?

[surreal quarry]

big gamer number get bigger gamer make number bigger because gamer

[errant flax]

lmao.

[maiden wagon]

there also 540 Hz

[meager wadi]

Friend is looking for a good monitor under $180. 1440p any suggestions

[errant edge]

I'd spend a lil extra https://pcpartpicker.com/product/p8zXsY/acer-nitro-xv1-xv271u-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-umhx1aa301

This is ok https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3HkgXL/lg-32gn600-b-315-2560x1440-165-hz-monitor-32gn600-b

I'd spend the extra for the better panel though

[small warren]

would really suggest going up to 220 or 230 budget for a 1440p monitor rn. all the sub 200 good ones have disappeared

unless you take a known loss in your overall viewing experience

[errant edge]

The first one I linked at $200 is actually pretty solid, rtings has it better than the omen 27q

[small warren]

I thought that was the 272u?

[errant edge]

Wait is it? I didn't even know there was a variant

[small warren]

ye 272u is stonks af

but I couldn't find anything on 271u

[errant edge]

Is this the really bad one?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c6mNnQ/acer-vg271u-m3bmiipx-270-2560-x-1440-180-hz-monitor-vg271u-m3

[small warren]

ye rtings has 272u

M3 is old?

I'm not sure

like I said, couldn't find a lot on 271u

[errant edge]

I'd stay away from it then and try to spend a bit more, like you said

[small warren]

ye

gigabyte G27q, hp omen 27q, msi g272qpf

those are the ones I'd suggest

220 - 230

[meager wadi]

Ty ty

[radiant rapids]

Should I care about dp 2.1 on a monitor

Technically my 7900 xtx has it

I thought the differences in color weren’t supposed to be noticeable to humans. But Reddit is freaking out over the lack of dp 2.1 on high end monitors.

For context I am looking at purchasing something like the new Alienware 32 4K oled

[misty gyro]

DP 2.1 is only needed on 4k 240hz or higher, even HDMI 2.1 works up to 4k 144hz

It's just reddit being reddit

[radiant rapids]

I was thinking okay, I’ll use the dsc if I really want 240fps like in a competitive FPS. However, I’ll be annoyed if it’s something I have to tinker with often

Im generally happy with 120,144, or 165 but would like 240 for fun sometimes

[misty gyro]

FPS is irrelevant here, it's the monitor refresh rate that matters

[radiant rapids]

Right

[misty gyro]

If you do get a HDR 240hz 4k display then DP 2.0 at least is needed

[radiant rapids]

Im trying to figure out what this will mean in practice. Is it likely many users will do something like run at 4k165hz or something, to keep uncompressed quality?

[misty gyro]

DP 2.0 does up to 80gbps (~77 after overhead) while a 10 bit 4k 240hz signal is about 72gbps uncompressed

HDR 4k 165 is about 50gbps uncompressed. DP 1.4 goes up to 32gbps.

HDR mentioned because it needs 10 bit

[radiant rapids]

Yea the Alienware just has dp 1.4

Apparently

[misty gyro]

Is it HDR

[radiant rapids]

“Dolby Vision”

So it’s supposed to be?

It also has hdmi 2.1

[misty gyro]

That could be 8 or 10 bit, dolby isn't as restrictive for the requirements

[radiant rapids]

The state of hdr kinda seems like a mess tbh

Not sure I believe it’ll be widely supported on pc games anytime soon

[misty gyro]

Ok even if it is 8 bit it would still need DSC to run at 165hz

8 bit 4k at 165 = about 41gbps

[radiant rapids]

Hmm

I basically I can’t get 4k240hz uncompressed hdr

[misty gyro]

Not without DP 2.0/2.1

[radiant rapids]

Well that seems odd to release the displays without the ports to support their max capabilities but perhaps I don’t fully understand

DSC I think is supposed to be technically fine, but perhaps bugs, like the annoying black screen when alt tabbing on nvidia cards

So maybe a non issue for me, a 7900 xtx user for foreseeable future

[misty gyro]

It's really a non issue for most people. You probably couldn't tell the difference between compressed or not.

[radiant rapids]

Works for me

I wonder how quickly I’ll actually be able to get my hands on one

[small warren]

The new 240hz?

OMG

Hahahahahaha

It is

4K 240hz at DP1.4?

Yeah nah

Blurry mess

@radiant rapids don't even think about buying it

I can't believe they didn't put dp 2.0 on it

ROFL

[small warren]

Mmm yes muh 4K 240fps gaming looking like it's straight outta 1440p

DSC go brrrrr

[misty gyro]

At 32" even 1440p-like picture isn't bad

[small warren]

Oh yeah for sure, but you may as well just get 1440p probably haha

[misty gyro]

A lot of people can't tell when it's being compressed but for those that can, I can see it being a problem

[small warren]

Oh yeah

Some people HATE dsc

I don't really notice it at 144hz but man I reckon at half the requisite bandwidth it'd be noticeable

I just can't believe it's 2024 and they aren't doing dp 2.1?

There's already a card that can do 4k 240 fps at dp 2.1

On comp games but even still

[misty gyro]

Even a single game is enough for a product to exist that supports it

Plus people that buy it because "bigger number better"

Even though 99.999% of people can't tell the difference between 165 and 240

[small warren]

Hmm

I can between 144 and 240

I want to say it's more... snappy?

Never had a 165hz tho so idk

[misty gyro]

That could be placebo effect, have you done a proper blind test?

[small warren]

Tbf no

I couldn't, the 240hz was my only curved screen

Lol

[misty gyro]

You can set the 240 to a lower refresh

[small warren]

I did run it at 144 for a while tbh

And 120

Messing with nvsurround

[misty gyro]

Have someone else set it, they leave the room so no chance of hint bias, then you come in and see if you can tell what the refresh is

[small warren]

Ohhh fair enough

Hm I still have the screen, maybe I can

[misty gyro]

You can do the test like J2C did https://youtu.be/2pI1LLVPdSs?si=4UZdOFD9qhDFjMDV

Only instead of "name the refresh rate" you can do "rank from low to high"

[bright venture]

anyone know a good 240hz monitor for less than $300?

[small warren]

1440p or 1080p

or more correctly for what gpu

and what games

[bright venture]

do you just want to see my whole build

[small warren]

that's fine if it's a new one, if not just the gpu really

be happy to advice a whole new build

[bright venture]

it's the one I'm currently building

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9P96KX

[small warren]

what games rq

?

[bright venture]

all of them

[small warren]

ok

so you just bought all of this?

[bright venture]

the cpu and the cpu cooler yes

[small warren]

the rest you haven't bought yet?

[bright venture]

nope

[small warren]

or is it old stuff

ok good

ok phew

Alr

few suggestions here

[bright venture]

why lol

okay

[small warren]

if you want 240hz gaming, a 3060 is not it

I would suggest a 6700XT to do that at 1080p

or a 7800XT/7900XT or better for 1440p, 4070ti (super), 4070 super

the other thing, 1080p 240hz monitors are unnecessarily expensive

what do I mean by that

the best 1440p 240hz screen is the same price as the best 1080p one

and the 1440p is a bigger screen at that

now

with this in the open, how much are you willing to let me change here?

I have suggestions for a lot of it, I imagine your budget is about, 1150-ish before the monitor

[bright venture]

yeah I was trying to keep the build with the 1200 range so this is what I came up with before looking at other stuff

[small warren]

I think I might be able to get you to 1440p 240hz

BUT

we need to make some sacrifices

[bright venture]

uh oh

lol

[small warren]

depends how much you like the appeal of premium things lolol

or rather

"premium"

[bright venture]

I'm pretty open minded

[small warren]

alr

do you need wifi yes or no

[bright venture]

yeah ethernet isn't an option unfortunately

[small warren]

alr

give me a few minutes

fortunately the cpu and cooler are great choices

so I will work with them

no point to returning

[bright venture]

okay good

[small warren]

ok it fits

1440p 240hz is doable

for fps games that is

but otherwise a quality 1440p 144hz experience

just dabbling on mobo and case need a couple minutes

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7gq7yg
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vQhBxH
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/M7yyQP

the third one would be a more "If you're willing to try" suggestion

I've read decent things about the M60 case but I haven't got any concrete reviews to work with so it's a bit of a "try and see if you like it" suggestion

you could also potentially fit a better gpu in the third list

[bright venture]

very nice

[small warren]

hold on, I can make the third list better

[bright venture]

okay lol

[small warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/36yyQP

just scrapes 1500

you could try the case, see how you feel about it, supposed to be quite good cos it's a full mesh side panel but relatively small form factor

as a benefit you could fit a 20% faster gpu

and then we are DEFINITELY talking 1440p 240hz

[bright venture]

haha awesome

[small warren]

not for all games, but for a lot of games

[bright venture]

right

thanks for the help

but it's sleep time now

[small warren]

np

lemme know if you have any questions

and def lmk if you try the case how you feel

gamemax doesn't have the best history but people were pretty positive about the m60 so I'd be keen to know

[mighty tide]

Looking at this atm. Anyone have any input?

https://a.co/d/4cs4gkq

Not sure how good/bad it is, I’ve heard good things about Mini LED but never anything about this brand or model.

[small warren]

it's ktc

which historically from what I learned tend to pick very good panels

it should be a nice monitor if you like both the merits and demerits of a mini-led panel (great colour, lighting, terrible bloom handling)

tho for $382 is a bit of a premium

you can get like

Omen 27qs for some 70 less

1440p 240hz and also a good panel afaik

[mighty tide]

yeah i've never seen a mini LED panel so im not sure. might head to a micro center and see if they have any to preview

is 144-240 a big upgrade? ive never seen it in action outside of yt videos which isnt realistic but i always thought 144-240 isnt that big of a change

[small warren]

it's a noticeable change

but not dramatic

for good response panels like the LG GR you get a much bigger improvement

[misty gyro]

Noticeable for some people in some games at least

[mighty tide]

fair. I like 4K but theres like 2 games that can run 4K ultra with nice framerates so im thinking a nicer quality 1440P would probably look better

just unsure if oled mini led or whatever is best for price

[misty gyro]

OLED will be best, as long as you're willing to put up with shortcomings like needing to refresh the screen every couple months because of image retention.

Mini led is basically a better version of VA

[small warren]

4K with, is it an XT?

it's like a 4K 60 card

[mighty tide]

XTX, but still bad on most games i play

im a sucker for high refresh rate

so i usually just crank settings to low besides texture and AA

[misty gyro]

Anything less than a 4090 you shouldn't expect 4k high quality and high refresh, and even with a 4090 that's a hard ask.

[small warren]

XTX can run 4K

XTX can do 4K just don't expect ultra

4090 same story

4K ultra still out of reach on a LOT of games

[misty gyro]

It can run 4k yes, but 160+ fps on high/ultra is tricky

[small warren]

4090 is like

native medium

XTX native low

4K high/ultra is wishful for most 2023 suggestions

[misty gyro]

Oh yeah I'm always assuming people are talking about native res and not upscaling

[small warren]

for good fps

[mighty tide]

yeah i've just kinda accepted that at this point. besides games i can hyperoptimize its never gonna happen

[small warren]

pretty much

[mighty tide]

i never run native though and still ultra is a struggle

[small warren]

ultra is a struggle on all cards for 4k in new games

but that said

would I recommend a 4090 for 1440p? no

you're cpu limited too much with it at 1440p

may as well get a 4080/super

[mighty tide]

im happy with XTX. 4090 is so absurdly expensive and in a few years there will be better stuff

a good monitor feels like a longer term investment though(?) because they can still be good after a pretty long time

ofc gpus can not saying anything 😅

just cant seem to find a reasonable 1440p 144hz oled

are the $900 ones really worth it?

[small warren]

go get an LG 27GR

it's the goated oled panel

no signs of burn-in after extended testing either

[mighty tide]

my eyes just popped outta my skull man that price 😭

i dont know if i asked this here a while ago, but are there like ever gonna be OLED price drops

[misty gyro]

There's new models coming out this year so the old ones should go down in price

We've already seen 1440p OLED drop from $1100 to $800

[small warren]

there are price drops

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qfpQzy/acer-predator-x27u-bmiipruzx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhxxaa001

same panel

but 1000 nit brightness not the 350 of the LG

so you'd run this at a lower brightness to save it from burn-in

[mighty tide]

its hard to compare never having seen any of the different types. ive had IPS and thats pretty much it

[small warren]

huge difference over ips

[mighty tide]

i do have a macbook with a fantastic screen but no clue what type it is. if OLED was like this then i feel itd be worth every penny FS

[small warren]

you definitely will feel the money's worth

newer macbook retina displays I would argue are somewhat similar yes

not to be overly dramatic but when I saw my friends LG GR for the first time

it was like looking through a literal window

he was showing me his pics from his camera

it looks

so good

[mighty tide]

i got a 2020 pro. says retina display 2560x1600

[small warren]

is it worth the extra 380 over the equivalent fast ips? ehh, yes kinda

[small warren]

yeah I'd believe it would be similar, a bit better really

there's a catch tho, use it in a dark room ideally

oled isn't really the best for bright viewing

or rather it can be just fine with the brightness cranked but ymmv for burn in

[mighty tide]

nah i rarely have more than like 1 light on and i can turn them off when needed. i think ill try and head to a micro center and look at an OLED if they have it

last time i went they were all broadcasting off of a 1080p laptop so all the monitors looked horrible 😭

[small warren]

fair enough

always good to try before you buy

I agree with that

[mighty tide]

but yeah if its actually as good/better than macbook displays i cant justify not at least trying one

what are the downsides of that acer one vs LG?

is it just like out of the box experience and quality of software?

[small warren]

really just what I said, 1000 nits, run it not as bright

they're the same tech underneath just a different reseller

one might have a different stand, not really looked into them that deeply

since they're both the same panel I treat it a bit like, same gpus from different brands, if that makes sense?

LG could be your reference card and the Acer is like, Asus

lol

[mighty tide]

makes sense. i dont really know what scale nits are but if its in a dark room im sure it wont be like too dark at lower levels

[small warren]

it's normal oled care really

nits is basically your brightness

1000 nits is HDR 1000

350 nits (LG GR) is just below HDR 400

or "fake HDR" really

but it still looks great despite that

[mighty tide]

oled with fake HDR would look better than IPS with fake hdr, right?

[kindred umbra]

Ye

[errant edge]

I didn't know oled existed with fake hdr

[misty gyro]

The thing with oled is even at lower brightness levels the hdr is ok because of the infinite contrast ratio. It's still not eye popping but it's better than it being super washed out.

[small warren]

Would argue still better than a lot of screens even with hdr1000+

Just hate that it's still immature tech

[small warren]

@mighty tide funny we talk about this

https://youtu.be/iNIN9ud9PZU?si=F4RUlLMYbCdgXZLZ

This drops the same day

[mighty tide]

Is there a price on that?

That’s gotta be at least a grand

[small warren]

none yet

but it will def be over a grand

[bright venture]

yo Felix I changed my gpu, do yk what monitor would get me the best performance with a 6700XT?

[errant edge]

G27q atm

Well best performance would be an $800 oled but I'm assuming that's not what you're talking about lmao

G27q is $220, 1440p 144hz IPS and solid quality

[bright venture]

great. do yk if that one is mountable on a monitor arm?

[errant edge]

I believe so but I'd double check

[bright venture]

do yk what I should be checking in order to see?

[errant edge]

Itd say smthn like Vesa mounting in the specs

[bright venture]

perfect, thank you

[small warren]

Oh oops wrong one

[small warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6QKHx/msi-g272qpf-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-g272qpf

[molten ravine]

I want to ask I have this Viotek Monitor (Came in a bundle with my old pc), what would be the best way to add a second monitor?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YWPMRXC?th=1&language=en_US

[small warren]

Above it

I feel like I've researched that screen before and it wasn't half bad

If it's the 144hz one I remember

[neon niche]

Check this out on @Newegg:MSI 27" 240 Hz Rapid VA WQHD Gaming Monitor 2560 x 1440 (2K) 90% Adobe RGB / 92% DCI-P3 / 116% sRGB MAG275CQRXF https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824475330?Item=N82E16824475330&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-475-330-_-01122024

thoughts on this? just ordered it today

[errant edge]

$310 and VA not good

I'd rather 1440p 144hz ips over 240hz VA

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lv4Zxr/acer-acer-nitro-xv272u-w2bmiiprx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhx2aa201

Better

[neon niche]

what’s the difference in VA and IPS?

[errant edge]

Ips is clearer, better image quality, VA has darker blacks

Ips is overall the better choice

@neon niche

The acer will provide a much better experience

[misty gyro]

IPS is much better for motion clarity in particular

[molten ravine]

Ty!

[hearty eagle]

Came here to find help choosing a monitor for inside the case, aida64, cpu Temps, etc. The missing piece of information is how they are mounted. I just want it to be secure somehow. Screws to the chassis, maybe a magnet?

[misty gyro]

What case do you have? You can usually just double sided tape to the PSU shroud in a lot of cases.

[hearty eagle]

Double Tempered Glass Full View Computer Cases Black (Fans are not Included),Black https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-05K5-00013?Item=9SIBT2UK3H4517&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIBT2UK3H4517-_-01142024

She thicc, so if I tape to the back near the psu, it would be quite far back inside the case.

Maybe double side tape to my radiator, but if it ever came unstuck the monitor would come crashing down onto the gpu ahhaha

[misty gyro]

Yeah there's not really any good way to attach a screen to that without 3D printing a bracket or something

[small warren]

rear exhaust is a good spot for a screen in these cases

[hearty eagle]

Formula mod makes one that mounts on 120mm fan slots but all anyone talks about is malware in their included software. So I think I'll do rear exhaust double stick tape, Thanks @small warren and @misty gyro

[small warren]

double sticky tape may or may not work

just a heads up

[misty gyro]

Depends on the tape

3M should be good enough

[visual girder]

HP OMEN 27k UHD 144Hz Gaming Monitor, 4K UHD Display (3840 x 2160), IPS Panel, 99% sRGB, 95% DCI-P3, 16:9, OMEN Gaming Hub, 27k (2023),Black https://a.co/d/jdsl5tA

Is this a good monitor?

I’m looking for an IPS 4K monitor with anything above 144hz

But not murdering my bank acc

[errant edge]

Mid at that price

Give me a sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GzWzK8/gigabyte-m28u-280-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-m28u-sa

[normal token]

whats the best 1440p monitor around the 300$ range. I am looking for just really good picture quality, doesn't have to be super high refresh rate, and im using an amd card if that matters

i'd be upgrading from a 720p monitor so any upgrade will obviously be such a difference lol

[errant edge]

This or m27q still
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lv4Zxr/acer-acer-nitro-xv272u-w2bmiiprx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhx2aa201

I'd check rtings between the two

[small warren]

Xv272u OP

[errant edge]

Especially at $250

[normal token]

ive been leaning towards the m27q and was gonna get the pro version but its been oos for a few weeks

[wintry walrus]

Hey y'all, I was wondering if there's any good 4K 240HZ OLED gaming monitors. I can wait if there's some super promising one, budget isn't too big of a problem but under $1500 is preferred. I have an AMD graphics card if that matters. Thank you for your time in advance.

I'd like to know the advantages of OLED vs MiniLED vs QD-OLED and all those different types. Don't know much about monitors sorry.

[wintry walrus]

If 144/165 make more sense thats understandable as well. Just for general gaming. Most FPS usage I need is like R6.

[small warren]

There isn't really an amd gpu that will appreciate 4k 240hz...

Unless all you intend to do is play like, overwatch all day or something

I also would only suggest 4K at 32" screens or bigger

[small warren]

Yeah there are monitors for this, I believe samsung has one, but they're very few and far between and will want DP 2.0/DP 2.1

Anything not that will do 4K 120hz and then do display stream compression

Which is fine for like, mild extra fps up to maybe 144?

But 240hz you'd really notice it

If you have a good enough CPU there's enough grunt then to suggest something like the LG 1440p 240hz 27" panel

E.g
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cRNxFT/lg-27gr95qe-b-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr95qe-b

[prime sun]

My brokeness aches every time i see an oled monitor 🥹

[small warren]

That's sort of where I'd say the high end would be for anything like an XTX

Or otherwise 4K 120 at a stretch

[wintry walrus]

I have a 7900 XTX and 7800X3D. The 240hz is mainly just for when I do wanna play those faster paced games.

[small warren]

I realise that

As a fellow xtx owner I can competently say the xtx is a 4k60, 4k90 card typically

On tailored settings 4k 120 is doable, medium to low settings (still looks decent)

Just saying to consider 1440p since you would kind of want a base level of competency ye?

[wintry walrus]

But if it isn't reasonable for price or whatever reason, I understand. I know it won't do good FPS on any games where I want visual clarity, but it's just kinda to be a dual use for both games.

I have a 1440P monitor and mostly feel like it isn't taking use of 7900XTX because I usually play like, hyper-modded games with AI upscaling and all that.

[small warren]

I'm saying this because the XTX is only so powerful

4K is a hard step up

You can run into things like freesync not really working much at all sub 60fps

If AAA doesn't interest you then I'd say alright, 4K might be more considerable

But usually as it goes with a high end gpu most people want to play AAA as well

[small warren]

For clarity on this btw I used rtings burn-in testing to check if a monitor is decent, and I wait until burn-in tests have been long enough before I recommend with any certainty any type of oled in general

[wintry walrus]

I like to "minmax" my games so I always play with like 1000 mods, FSR, super resolution whatever. Even then is 4K hard to get 120-144 on games? Mostly not AAA as well.

[small warren]

It's a bit difficult

Here's an easy gauge

3090 has been and still kinda is about a 4k 60 card

1440p 144-240 card

Xtx is about a 1440p 240/4k 90 card

4090 is a 4k120 card easily

But talking in the sense of pretty much a vast majority of games in the last couple years

I haven't even mentioned 4k240 yet have I lol

For fps games all of these cards can achievably do 4k240, but the XTX has DP 2.1

DP 2.1 allows for proper 4k240

The rest are all limited by dp 1.4 or hdmi 2.1

Which leads to a blurry mess of not really 4k240

My real question for you here is do you like maxed settings in games?

Because if you do, to get any reasonable fps near 120 you won't be doing that

Not for anything somewhat new really

Bar of course, light games like fps

If we were only talking pure fps games as a metric, 4k 240hz would be dead easy

[wintry walrus]

I mean, if I can they're nice. But usually I run with texture mods and a mix of medium/high/low depending on what it is what it does etc. The FPS games I usually just go all low with max texture/shadow.

[small warren]

See saying texture mods gives me very little context

Speaking specific games would tell me a lot more

[wintry walrus]

Yeah no problem! Mainly these days I play Cyberpunk(would never even imagine getting high FPS on that one LOL), Skyrim, a few fighting games like SF6 and the new Tekken when it comes out, RDR2, R6, Overwatch, a little destiny 2, and then tons of little games where graphics don't really matter.

[small warren]

Ok that tells me a LOT

Ok 4k 240 would be doable yes

https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results

I would have a look at this and wait for some updates for when they add a 4k 240hz panel in there

And wait and see if it passes muster without burn-in over a long time imo

Reason I say this is there's always some great new monitor or tv someone suggests as "The next great" and then after a year the complaints fly in over burn-in or something else

Or alternatively, you could get that 1440p monitor I linked above which is proven to be excellent for burn-in (if not better than typical screens)

[small warren]

This one here

The other catch as well, for a 4k240 panel, remember to look for dp 2.1

The thing with OLED, WOLED, QD-OLED and even to some degree Mini-LED is there going to look quite good, especially the first 3

Very hard to get it wrong for image quality and responsiveness

You'd maybe consider the on screen display or rear panel ports (i/o), and give ample consideration to the stand ergonomics

It's more to the case of saying, they'll all pretty much look really good when it comes to OLED (mini-led and QLED as well but not as strongly)

As far as a specific recommendation...

I believe G8? Might be the only one rn?

Oh G9 OLED exists

[wintry walrus]

Oops, my bad. I remember seeing that at a micro center and it was massive.

[small warren]

Here
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/#D=240000,540000&P=10,11,12,7,9,4&F=812800000,1651000000&sort=price&page=1

[wintry walrus]

I saw a list of OLED this year and it had a LOT of new ones that looked like they could be what I want. Not sure though and if I'd wanna wait a few years/months before buying it's hard to decide.

[small warren]

Ignore the g65b and g7 faker

But the others would be very much in that extreme class

Hell

The first g9 that pops up would be solid

I would also be wary of g9's

Bar the early 1440p 240hz versions, the newer ones with mini-led and oled are cracking and breaking under their own weight

E.g this should be fine
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/NMvD4D/lg-ultragear-490-5120-x-1440-240-hz-curved-monitor-49gr85dc-b

Or this (same thing I think, this one is definitely qled tho)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HrK2FT/samsung-odyssey-g9-c49g97t-488-5120x1440-240-hz-monitor-lc49g97tssnxdc

But not this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cNxRsY/samsung-odyssey-g9-neo-s49ag952n-490-5120x1440-240-hz-monitor-ls49ag952nnxza

Last one is one of the ones that break

Since the g9 oled is more new tech, under the same/similar design I'd be very wary of it

The g9 neo is mini-led

Unlike the first two which are VA/QLED

Which are historically fine afaik

Ultrawide 1440p would also be pretty good if that was considerable to you

[wintry walrus]

I really wanna try like, at least 4K 144HZ but I don't know if that'd be better or worse than a 1440P one of exceptional quality. I've never tried ultrawide but it seems like most of these are ultrawide.

[small warren]

From what I can tell this is the only 4k240 rn and it's dp.14/hdmi2.1 so fake 240hz
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r4fnTW/samsung-odyssey-neo-g8-320-3840-x-2160-240-hz-curved-monitor-ls32bg852nnxgo

Apart from obviously g9 oled

[small warren]

4k 144 would be a lot easier

I personally use this and it's excellent

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hCrRsY/gigabyte-aorus-fv43u-430-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-aorus-fv43u

Understated monitor, it may not look like oled but it gets bloody close

[wintry walrus]

What's the difference between QLED and OLED?

I saw an MSI OLED that I think was 4k144 but it was suspicously cheap looking.

[small warren]

Very different techs

If I had to put it in a nutshell, OLED better image, better responsiveness

QLED impossible to burn in

Comes with slight VA caveats

OLED also suffers from text clarity

QLED can get to equal or higher brightness

Mini-LED goes much higher than that

Another suggestion https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GzWzK8/gigabyte-m28u-280-3840x2160-144-hz-monitor-m28u-sa

Old but gold

Comes with a kvm

The fv43u does too

Very nice if you intend to use a second pc at all, or even game on like an xbox with keyboard and mouse

[wintry walrus]

Ah I misremembered. It was 1440P thats why I thought the price was suspicious. This is what I was talking about:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C9L9MQF3?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1

[wintry walrus]

Yeah I've heard really conflicting things about Mini-LED.

Some say its way better, outside of price, some say opposite

[small warren]

X27u I believe is quite good

[small warren]

I would definitely say mini-led would have an excellent use

Do you play in a bright room?

If so mini-led OP

[wintry walrus]

Nah, medium I'd say

[small warren]

For normal or dark rooms I'd say oled

QLED can do both

Mini-led...in a dark room

Could be as much a screen as it is a floodlight

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blinded-flash-screaming-gif-21505041

[small warren]

X27U btw uses the same panel as the LG oled I linked earlier

[small warren]

This one

All 1440p 240hz oled screens are all the same

They're all shipped from LG

[wintry walrus]

Multiple different monitors use the same screen?

That's odd

[small warren]

They all supply from the same company ye

I think we've covered the majority of the gamut here without breaking into too much detail

You've got a few options to look at

I gotta go but feel free to ask in here again if you've got more questions

[wintry walrus]

Yeah no problem! Thanks for all the help.

[small warren]

✌️

[fading wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-gif-25786536

[crystal geode]

im trying to connect a display port to my moniter and it doesnt work

this is my moniter https://www.omen.com/us/en/displays/240hz.html

[misty gyro]

Define "doesn't work."
What is it doing? What is it not doing?

[gray isle]

i am in search for a computer monitor that is 27 inches, and use the same plug as a computer psu would be great since external power boxes are a pain to hide

[misty gyro]

Budget?

[gray isle]

like around 110 or less

[misty gyro]

You'd be looking at 1080p monitors then, which isn't optimal for that size screen but I'll find one still

[small warren]

I might be off the mark but I believe decent monitors with an internal psu aren't cheap

most have a brick

[misty gyro]

At that budget "decent" is kinda out the window anyway

$70 after rebate, $110 before https://www.newegg.com/black-asrock-challenger-cl27ff-27-0/p/N82E16824946002

Uses a standard kettle cable

Only has HDMI and VGA ports 🙃

[gray isle]

i mean the 2nd monitor im using now is 60Hz at 780P

[misty gyro]

This would be an improvement over that for sure, 100Hz 1080p

[gray isle]

like its a 2nd monitor ish, im using it for things like discord or play videos on while im gaming so i just look at it at times, im not wanting something major

i also would like it to have fairly small bezels

[misty gyro]

I'd say that's pretty thin

[gray isle]

very

[ebon garnet]

I'm helping a friend do his first PC gaming setup and he wants to start out with a 1080p monitor and maybe upgrade later but

https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/omen-by-hp-27-inch-fhd-240hz-gaming-monitor-omen-27s

Is there a similar 1080p monitor to this at a lower price point? maybe with 144hz or 165 instead of 240

Ideally still an IPS panel and with Nvidia Gysnc

This one is good, but $350 just seems like a bit much to pay for a 1080p screen. I also haven't shopped for monitors in like 8 years so I'm a bit out of the loop.

jk sorry ignore my question

https://www.amazon.com/LG-27GL83A-B-Ultragear-Compatible-Monitor/dp/B07YGZL8XF/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3VPAHZTXRKVIU&keywords=gaming+monitor+1080p+nvidia+gsync&qid=1706510971&s=electronics&sprefix=gaming+monitor+1080p+nvidia+gsync%2Celectronics%2C175&sr=1-2

Found this, I should be good

[errant edge]

Wait

There's a better option than that lg one, that one has some pretty major issues

If I'm remembering the model right

A lot of blurring, bad image quality etc

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/k8GnTW/gigabyte-m27q-270-2560x1440-170-hz-monitor-m27q
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/W6QKHx/msi-g272qpf-270-2560-x-1440-170-hz-monitor-g272qpf

Either of those would be better

[ebon garnet]

Oh ok thank you for the warning, thankfully I don't think he ordered yet last night so I'll let him know!

[ebon garnet]

These are both 2k monitors not 1080p though actually, do you have a good recommendation for a good IPS panel 1080p one?

Preferably 27 inch and with at least 144hz refresh rate

Also both of the ones you recommended have AMD Freesync, which unless I'm misremembering, Nvidia cards can't take advantage of.

[errant edge]

The LG one you linked was also 1440p

Freesync and g sync marketing don't matter, don't pay attention to it. 1080p at 27" doesn't look great, because of pixel density. Unless sitting decently far away or have bad eyesight you're likely to see pixels

Do you know what gpu he has, and what types of games he plays? Does he play in tournaments or anything like that?

[ebon garnet]

Oh 💀 so it is...oops, that's what I get for browsing while sleepy. Ironically I didn't double check the resolution because it was one of the first results when I searched specifically for a 1080p monitor on Amazon, so I only checked if it was IOS and had high refresh rate w/ decent response time 😭

[ebon garnet]

And yeah that makes sense, I've always played at 1440p on a 27" so I can kinda see how a 1080p screen might look bad at that size

[ebon garnet]

He has a 4060 Ti and an i5-13600K

[errant edge]

Did he alr buy/build the pc?

[ebon garnet]

Yeah

[errant edge]

Ah alr

And what's he do on it? Does he play a lot of esports and first person shooters competitively?

I'm running basically the same setup, 3060 ti instead of 4060 ti but they perform within a couple % of eachother because nvidia is stupid

I'm running 1440p165

[ebon garnet]

No and I don't think he plans to, he doesn't really play anything yet since his setup isn't finished but he plans to play FFXIV at the very least, he plays all kinds of things though but has generally been a console gamer

Yeah I also have a 3060 Ti and run 2k

[errant edge]

I would recommend 1440p over 1080p 240hz then, the image quality would likely be preferred

I'll check for some 240hz options though

Overpriced but this would be my suggestion
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4DjRsY/aoc-27g2z-270-1920-x-1080-240-hz-monitor-27g2z

[errant edge]

Whats he still need for the setup, just the monitor?

[ebon garnet]

The main reason he wanted to go with 1080p was so that he'd continue to get higher FPS further into the future with that card, but he actually plans to upgrade the card within the next 3 to 5 years anyways so I'm gonna agree he should go with 1440p as well

[errant edge]

Honestly I wouldn't have bought it at all, it's just really bad value

Especially the 16gb version

[ebon garnet]

Yeah

[ebon garnet]

16gb? The 4060 Ti only has 8gb VRAM unless I'm misunderstanding what you're talking about

[errant edge]

There's two versions one 8gb one 16gb

The 8gb one around 350 isn't great value but it's not terrible

16gb one is normally 450+ which is just awful

[ebon garnet]

Oh I didn't even know that, interesting. Yeah his is the 8gb version

[errant edge]

Ye 6700xt 12gb is around 330 (used to be 300-310 but stock is running low) and outperforms it

Or 7600 is $250 and is around 10% worse

Maybe closer to 15% I'm not certain

[ebon garnet]

He's going with a prebuilt for his first PC, which I recommended against, but he didn't want to worry about learning about building and stuff

I would have offered to build for him but he doesn't live near me

[errant edge]

Do yknow how much it cost? There's some 4070 options around 1400-1500

Also a 3080 options for 1200

https://www.newegg.com/skytech-st-azure2-0562-b-ne/p/3D5-000Z-000X5
https://www.ebay.com/itm/234935686884?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=GEZuugFwQwS&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=r8em-zv_qyc&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

4070 ti build new for 1600 and 3080 build I think refurb for 1200

[ebon garnet]

Yeah he already bought though and was settled on it so I'm just gonna leave it be for now, I actually was asking around and talking about it in the #building-and-recc-chat yesterday but he settled on one

[errant edge]

Ah ok

I just hope it was around 1100 or under

[ebon garnet]

It was well within his budget and it'll handily run the games he wants to play so he just went with it. The model he went with definitely wasn't 1100 but I'll spare you the pain of knowing

He was prepared to spend $2k though and it was well below that, thankfully

So I was just like okay sure 🥲

Oh also I am gonna recommend one of those 1440p monitors you linked, but one last question first

[ebon garnet]

You mentioned Freesync and Gsync don't really matter, can you explain? I remember when I was monitor shopping in 2015, people were pretty hyped about having these features, but are they really just kind of considered a non-factor?

My only guess is that higher refresh rates on monitors and higher specs on PCs that we have nowadays lead to less stuttering and screen tearing overall in general play, making Gsync and Freesync not as big of a deal as they used to be

Back when I bought my monitors in 2015, 1080p @60hz was still considered a relatively decent option and higher refresh rate monitors were much much pricier (my 27" 1440p 144hz IPS panel w/ Gsync ran me $600 or $700 in 2015 I think) so I assume that had something to do with it

[errant edge]

99% of the time if a monitor can do one it can do both

And its kinda irrelevant atp anyways

I've never had any screen tearing and I've had my refresh rate at 165 since I've had the monitor, and I've played games anywhere from 60 fps to 240 fps

It does still happen but if you lock your fps to your refresh rate it's fine. Which there's not really a downside to doing anyways

[ebon garnet]

Ah ok that makes sense

I've just always had this monitor with Gysnc for all these years so I had no frame of reference for what it was actually like playing without haha

I'll send him the first two you linked earlier, those both look like solid deals

And now that I have that mostly sorted, I get to start putting together my new build in a bit I got the last part in the mail like 20mins ago

[errant edge]

Ooh fun

Good luck and enjoy

[ebon garnet]

Thank you! For the luck and for the help I haven't done a new build since 2015 so I may be in another channel screaming for help in a couple hours, we'll see

[errant edge]

Lol if you need a reference there's a lot of videos on yt, I know plenty about pcs but still followed one when I did mine

Yet I still had like three issues afterwards and didn't get it working till 3-4 days after I put it together

I also forgot to put my io shield in before I put my motherboard in the case

So I then had to take the mobo out to put it in

[ebon garnet]

Yeah thats what I did the first time and I'm gonna do it again, just follow step by step. My first build was fine aside from having plugged something into the wrong pins on the mobo haha, which took me an hour to figure out after it wouldn't boot 😅 I didn't look up how to build at all beforehand, I just went along with the Linus build video and mostly followed my mobo instructions correctly and things worked out. So at the very least, I remember mostly what I'm doing still so I should be better off this time lol

I'm excited though it's gonna be great

[errant edge]

Yooo

Check this out on @Newegg:ABS Stratos Aqua Gaming PC - Intel i5 13400F - GeForce RTX 4070 - DLSS 3 - AI-Powered Performance - 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD - SA13400F4070-2 https://www.newegg.com/abs-sa13400f4070-2-stratos-aqua/p/N82E16883360462?Item=N82E16883360462&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-83-360-462-_-01292024

I know you said you were gonna leave it be but that's really good value for a pre build

[wanton compass]

Just asking, are displays that are in demonstration sections of a store accurate to what you actually get when you buy a display?

something seems odd about the display units in the store I’m in

[misty gyro]

It's representative of out of the box performance in a well lit environment

It usually looks better once you tweak the colors, brightness, and contrast

[small warren]

I'd wager otherwise. Stores have a long history of boosting colours and making things look way oversaturated

If you can check and see the settings are normal, then I'd call it representstive

[small canopy]

My friend is lookin for a good monitor for competative games. 1080p 240 hz. Price range less than 400

[small warren]

what gpu has he got

[small canopy]

2070 super

[small warren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/4DjRsY/aoc-27g2z-270-1920-x-1080-240-hz-monitor-27g2z

actually

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R94Ycf/asus-tuf-gaming-vg249qm1a-238-1920-x-1080-270-hz-monitor-90lm06j0-b023b0

[small canopy]

ty, if u have any other recommendations please offer

[small warren]

the second one instead

[small canopy]

Das my old monitor lets goooo

[small warren]

reason is 24"

[small canopy]

yea

[small warren]

the 27" is objectively better but 1080p on 27" looks blurry

[small canopy]

I have only played on 27 and i didnt realize that for around 8 years LOL

you could not be more correct

[small warren]

heh

I've got the scars

24 looks a lot better

[small canopy]

If you have any other ones that are good that i can copy link and spam my friend i would appreciate 😂

All they know are zowie tn panels

soo

[small warren]

nah not really, there are better? but like

high refresh 1440p exist at that level

and good ones too

so it becomes more like an argument of

get that and upgrade gpu instead

even 200 is a bit high ball for 1080p tbh

e.g

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Lv4Zxr/acer-acer-nitro-xv272u-w2bmiiprx-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-umhx2aa201

this is basically untouchable up until the $700 oleds

[small canopy]

I got my 2k 240hz for 350, but on sale ofc

that price is wild

th

[small warren]

arguably one of if not the best up until the lg 240hz oled panels

you have m27q-x at 400 but that's a big price jump for a small improvement

[small warren]

e.g

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/cRNxFT/lg-27gr95qe-b-265-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr95qe-b

[small canopy]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6WBzK8/lg-ultragear-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-27gr83q-b

I got this at 350 discount

funny enough

[small warren]

that's quite good

the ips variant tho

[small canopy]

yea

I like it a lot

[errant edge]

I wonder if this is a new oled panel or if it's the same, $600
https://www.amazon.com/KTC-OLED-Monitor-Built-DisplayPort1-4/dp/B0CRDRL92Z

[small warren]

ooo pog

that will be lg oled

oh it literally says it

[errant edge]

Oh lmao

[small warren]

KVM

KVVMMMM

WTFFFFF

GOATED

I would totally recc that Bacca

amazing find

[errant edge]

Now if we get OLEDs at half the price, I'll be buying one this year

[small warren]

wtf

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP63GQYD/ref=syn_sd_onsite_desktop_0?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_plhdr=t&aref=6AybqlFEEq&th=1

$999 with prime

LG C series panel

[errant edge]

And there's a $65 coupon for me

$935

[small warren]

same panel as pg42uq

wtf happened to ktc

[surreal quarry]

ehh lots of blur

its really hard to see motion on that thing

well on mine

[small warren]

on what

[surreal quarry]

pg42uq

like i can see motion much more clearly on m27q

[small warren]

well yeah oled reduces blur to nothing

that's oled

[surreal quarry]

i think its just because I sit too close so moving a litte bit moves the charecter a couple inches on the screen

[small warren]

no it's really just oled tech

oled is ridiculously clear

[misty gyro]

We might see up to 30% off old models as the new ones launch but I doubt half off