old-monitors-and-tv

[silent epoch]

uugh....more immersion? thats it

more windows tabs lol

[misty gyro]

Some games will properly use a wide field of view but that's honestly rare

[errant flax]

Fair.

[errant flax]

Mostly play, Halo Infinite and Minecraft.

[misty gyro]

Minecraft does

[silent epoch]

mircroled is 1500 nits. sheesh

[smoky thicket]

do you need something that bright

[silent epoch]

no

thats not good for your eyes

[smoky thicket]

only if you're in a bright room i suppose

[silent epoch]

or outdoors

10 years from now, ik youll buy one

[misty gyro]

If you haven't met, let me introduce you https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/cooler-master/tempest-gp27u

[silent epoch]

never

[misty gyro]

But 1500 nits sustained 10% window

[silent epoch]

damn 1300 with 100 peak window

[silent epoch]

thats eye burn in intensity right there

like looking at the sun lol

[errant flax]

really?

[silent epoch]

idk. i havent seen 1500nits

jk

on a display I mean

[misty gyro]

No the sun is 1.6 billion nits

[silent epoch]

looking at the sun eventually gives you super powers

[misty gyro]

Mmm well yes technically if you pull off a Daredevil when you go blind

[silent epoch]

yeah...the auditory part of the brain becomes more sensitive when you go blind

dont try it at home

soo back to monitors. that M27Q-SA should do the job

[errant flax]

Yeah I think I will save up for that then.

[silent epoch]

great

[misty gyro]

The LG I linked would be good too at 6600 pesos ($360)

[silent epoch]

very good

[errant flax]

True though for $20 difference the extra 26hz, HDR400 vs HDR10, and KVM switch seems like a neat lil upgrade.

[silent epoch]

HDR400 IS FAKE HDR

[misty gyro]

HDR10 is better than HDR400

[errant flax]

?

I thought HDR400 is better then HDR10?

[misty gyro]

HDR400 is only 400 nits, not bright enough to show real HDR colors

HDR10 is 1000 nits

[silent epoch]

looks bad

[errant flax]

ohhh.

mhmmm.

[silent epoch]

mmm

[errant flax]

How big a difference is there between the colors on HDR10 and HDR400 also does HDR work on everything?

[silent epoch]

Falcie...the ‎LG 27GL83A-B 27 would be better

[misty gyro]

Indeed but what's the price

[silent epoch]

its about 100 pesos more on amazon

[errant flax]

?

[misty gyro]

Hmmmmm https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/lg-27gn800-b-vs-lg-27gl83a-b/21782/1627?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

Better for other uses but effectively the same for only gaming

[silent epoch]

i had the A-b. great monitor

most likely he will do more than gaming /:

[misty gyro]

The ergonomics are the only thing hurting the 800-B in most categories so if a better stand is worth 100 pesos go for it

[errant flax]

Doing about equal parts gaming to productivity stuff like blender as of late.

[silent epoch]

I noticed that to, Fal

[misty gyro]

After calibrating the colors both monitors have what appears to be the exact same screen

Maybe a slight advantage to the 800-B for the color gamut in SDR which may or may not matter for blender

[errant flax]

was messing with my screen's color settings just now and I am wondering, is the Discord app supposed to have a slight blue hint?

I set it to sRGB for a moment

[misty gyro]

Not that I'm aware of

My monitor isn't good enough for true HDR but my phone is with a QD-OLED, and on my phone it's just gray

[errant flax]

should I keep Free-Sync premium on or off?

[misty gyro]

On unless you have issues in specific games with screen tearing

[errant flax]

Gotcha, I am a leave sRGB color temperature off them.

[errant flax]

what are the penalties to Free-Sync?

Latency?

[misty gyro]

None

Unless it's a bad monitor or game

If anything latency is better because it's syncing the frame rate to your fps

[errant flax]

what does Black Equalizer do?

[misty gyro]

It'll make darker areas lighter or darker based on the setting

[silent epoch]

Not sure if it's a good idea to play with those settings.

[errant flax]

gotcha.

[misty gyro]

You can always factory reset

[silent epoch]

True

[errant flax]

I left it on default though increasing contrast definitely helped up the brightness a lot.

[misty gyro]

I have black equalizer on 9/20 on my monitor

Just a bit darker

8 is too low for me

[errant flax]

for me it's percentage based

[errant flax]

neva!

[errant flax]

Gosh, is that the anime where the detective got turned into a kid?

If so it's been so long since I've seen that....

[silent epoch]

I've never seen it

Ha

[light prairie]

could someone help with my monitor not receiving signal on boot? the pc turns on and my kbm light up too but monitor just doesn't receive the signal...

[silent epoch]

Hhhmm

Is the display port or HDMI plugged to the back of the GPU and not the motherboard?

[light prairie]

yep made sure of that

it was working fine yesterday, i just turned it off at night and since today morning it has not worked

i didn't mess with it whatsoever

[silent epoch]

Do you have any motherboard LEDS on? @light prairie

They tell you if you have a hardware related issue

[balmy plaza]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/662617/32GP750_315_2K_QHD_2560_x_1440)_165Hz_Gaming_Monitor;AMD_FreeSync;-_NVIDIA_G-Sync_Compatible;_HDR;_HDMI_DisplayPort;_3-Sided_Frameless;_Game_Mode

Is this a good 30 inch 1440p monitor

[maiden wedge]

Is this good?

[light prairie]

sorry for the late reply i fell asleep. Yes, its a white led that turns on when i try to boot up

[silent epoch]

Alright. So that light should say VGA next to it. You have a graphics card issue

[light prairie]

ahh i see. That's so sudden. thanks anyways

[next raptor]

Any monitor suggestions to pair with the 4090 gpu?

[errant flax]

Do you want to game at 4K 144hz or 2k 170hz and above?

[next raptor]

Preferably 4k and above 144 if possible

[errant flax]

I can't help much but those are some questions that will help the pros decide what's best for ya.

[next raptor]

I seen the oddesy neo g8 32"

It's beautiful but so expensive

[errant flax]

Some things to help the pros figure out what's best:

Budget:
Resolution:
Size:

[errant flax]

Any kind of 4k monitor beyond 144hz to my knowledge is gonna cost you at least a grand.

[misty gyro]

This^
And country

[balmy plaza]

https://www.amazon.com/LG-32GN650-B-Ultragear-Reduction-FreeSync/dp/B08LLF9NS1/ref=asc_df_B08LLF9NS1/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475789631743&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=11832806427506082267&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9031256&hvtargid=pla-1179992358167&psc=1

https://www.microcenter.com/product/662617/32GP750_315_2K_QHD_2560_x_1440)_165Hz_Gaming_Monitor;AMD_FreeSync;-_NVIDIA_G-Sync_Compatible;_HDR;_HDMI_DisplayPort;_3-Sided_Frameless;_Game_Mode

Which one is better

?

[silent epoch]

this one

[small warren]

anything 4K 144+

M28U, M32U, FV43U are always my go to

those are all really nice

LG C2 OLED Evo as well, but that's the baller option, along with the Odyssey G9

[errant flax]

Just realized that shipping a monitor from MX to CN is gonna cost a lot so I am gonna hold off on buying another monitor till I am back in China in about 3 months.

[mighty tide]

I'm honestly unsure if this is my monitor, my game, or some other factor but I noticed when moving there's like, a strip of pixels that kinda stay still. Took a video and put it in slo mo

But its one line that stays a little bit behind

On the Gigabyte M32U

[silent epoch]

turn on V-sync or G-sync

[mighty tide]

I have Freesync on, not the same?

[silent epoch]

freesync and Gsync are the same

[fading wyvern]

Try capping the frame rate to your refresh rate

[mighty tide]

I capped it to 144, turned on adaptive sync as well as freesync premium pro or whatever its called

[silent epoch]

I accidently said Vsync. they're not like the other two

[fading wyvern]

What’s your fps in game?

[mighty tide]

144

max

[fading wyvern]

Vsync on?

[mighty tide]

doesnt happen in like, rdr2 where im getting 80-100

[mighty tide]

nah not in game. always thought vsync always off no matter what

thought it locked fps to 60 idk

[fading wyvern]

Switch it on see if it’s still there

Might just be the game of it is

[mighty tide]

its imperceptible in like overwatch

maybe just game yeah

[misty gyro]

It locks to the refresh rate but it also forces freesync off

[fading wyvern]

Can try switching the overdrive mode on your monitor to the fastest but that’ll probably introduce ghosting

[mighty tide]

I did, didn't really change it much surprisingly

[fading wyvern]

Is this a issue in other games?

[mighty tide]

its noticeable in some, far worse in others

only in motion when i move around though

[fading wyvern]

That is starting to sound like a monitor issue

[hollow nymph]

"Accidently" LOL

meanwhile in a few channels up

[fading wyvern]

Try updating firmware I guess

https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/M32U/support#support-dl @mighty tide

[mighty tide]

already maxed 😢

or like

updated

not sure if i downloaded drivers i guess??

[fading wyvern]

Nah you probably did

[mighty tide]

surprisingly didnt lmao but doubt thatll change much

[fading wyvern]

Try it, whatever it is it seems monitor or gpu related, much more likely monitor

[mighty tide]

after doing all that and turning on vync in the game it seems to be somewhat better

[fading wyvern]

The line is still there though?

[mighty tide]

Not in the game it was before

Gotta check others ofc

[fading wyvern]

Hell ya looks like it was probably a faulty driver

[mighty tide]

Im still in the return window for micro center for like 2 more weeks so hoping it was just that 😭

[fading wyvern]

Just for giggles uncap your frame rate and look for tearing in games

[mighty tide]

Yeah did and it works lol, even without vync

So glad it was drivers 😭

[fading wyvern]

Perfect

[mighty tide]

Ohhh I updated to windows 11 a few days ago. Probably something like it reset them'

Not sure

[fading wyvern]

Computers are magic and fickle

[nova rune]

anyone know how to fix freesync brightness flickers?

[misty gyro]

Does it only happen when freesync is on? Are you using HDMI or DP? What monitor and GPU?

[outer ember]

Looking for a budget screen for general use and light gaming. I have an RTX2070super. Thinking on bumping to 2k. Is the Asus VG27AQ1A still a good buy compared to the M27Q? Or maybe 1080P like the Alienware AW2523HF or the viewsonic XG2431 or any recommendations other that those screens?

[misty gyro]

1440p is going to be pretty rough on a 2070

Especially on newer games, made in the last 5 years or so

[errant summit]

Ive got a 4070 ti and I have a m27q currently and was looking to upgrade to 4k with at least 144hz. What's the best bang for your buck for that?

Would like it to be gsync compatible as well if that matters

[mighty tide]

4070ti is not gonna like 4k high refresh rate

[misty gyro]

Eh, it could do it but don't expect much in super high detail games.

[misty gyro]

M28U probably. Or a little extra for a M32U.

[errant summit]

The 4070ti wouldn't do well at 4k? Dang

[mighty tide]

It could play games, but higher detail ones on higher settings wouldn’t be amazing

Just depends on what your performance goals are

[errant summit]

Is a 2k to 4k upgrade even worth it at that point?

[raw ingot]

not really

[errant summit]

Should I just go for a higher refresh rate 2k? If so what monitor

Maybe the 240hz m27q?

[raw ingot]

ya

or hp x27q depending on deals

[fading wyvern]

170hz -> 240hz probably won’t be much of a upgrade… now ips too oled? That would be a sick upgrade

But also cough $1000 usd

it’s $700(used) it’s actually a decent price my god

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/used/1745626/?

[surreal quarry]

im planning on getting this but im a bit concerned that it's too dim

M27Q --> LG27NEWOLED

[errant summit]

I just ordered that

thats a steal

oled is amazing

[errant summit]

thank you for that beautiful deal

[fading wyvern]

Yeah it’s dim but unless you’re in a crazy studio lit room it probably won’t matter to much, they updated it to hit a pretty average 300nits which isn’t bright really, and in hdr mode iirc it hits double that or close to 1000nits

[errant flax]

4070ti games at 4k around the 3090ti's abilities so not superb but playable.

[fading wyvern]

4k would also be vram limited

[errant flax]

......

Well I suppose that's kinda true in some games.

[misty gyro]

12GB is enough for most games in 4k, it's pretty rare to use more still

[fading wyvern]

Eh looking at the trends of bad pc ports that struggle with 8gb of vram at 1440p

12gb is enough but if you wanna max things out it’ll be limited

[hollow nymph]

Never heard someone call 3090ti performance just "playable"

Geuss my 6700xt is garbage now 😰

[errant flax]

Anything sub 100 fps I feel is choppy making it "playable" and not "enjoyable".

[icy badger]

any monitors 144hz+ under $125? please @ me or dm

[errant flax]

I think the Pixio PX224 is usually around 100-125$ 1080p 144hz IPS.

[icy badger]

I can't seem to find it

wb this one?
https://www.microcenter.com/product/624240/asus-vp249qgr-238-full-hd-(1920-x-1080)-144hz-gaming-monitor
It's $130 on microcenter but $210 on amazon

[marsh stream]

So My main monitor is a 48inch OLED / I got rid of 2 monitors to go to the gaint single and if im being honest I miss a 2nd monitor. Any recommendations on maybe a vertical monitor?

Doesnt have to be massive but man idk why I almost need that screen seperation fro stuff

[misty gyro]

Does your OLED screen have PBP (picture by picture) because you can use that to make it act like 2 monitors

[marsh stream]

Oh seriously I'll have to check later

[misty gyro]

What model is it? I can tell you from the specs

[small warren]

Ye PBP is nice, but it comes with caveats

Like you'll be running 60hz with it one way or another at least in my experience

[marsh stream]

Didnt see this earier LG ultragear 48

q900 i believe

will have to double check

[misty gyro]

That model does not appear to have PIP/PBP sadly

[marsh stream]

I think i remember hearing something about power toys

maybe able to do something like that ill look around

[nova rune]

only when freesync is enabled on the monitor and not all the time(when it does happen it doesnt go away for a day or 2), currently using DP 1.2 (has option to run 1.1) monitor is VIOTEKGN32LD and GPU is asus 3070ti strix oc (has happened on previous GTX1080)

[raw ingot]

Seems like display issue

[verbal palm]

Oh ok, so I figured it out. I just had to change input. Now, is it normal when I turn off my tv while connected to GPU in PC that the other monitors that are connected via DP to GPU aft a little weird, like don’t receive a signal?

[errant sphinx]

I bought the g7 odyssey 240h monitor 2 months ago and i've been experiencing some mouse stuttering in game ? is it just me or the monitor is broken ? I have a good pc so its not du to it.

[misty gyro]

What games? And I have to ask, it's actually set to 240hz in settings right?

[errant sphinx]

yep, and fortnite, valorant, minecraft

every games i have to move mouse quick basically

[misty gyro]

What processor do you have?

[errant sphinx]

ryyzen 7 5800x3d

[misty gyro]

And what settings do you play at?

All those games are basically guaranteed to have some kind of stuttering, especially with more players on the map at a time

[errant sphinx]

low

[errant sphinx]

the thing is, i dont have any fps drops, its only some mouse things when i move quick

[misty gyro]

Yeah it's a game issue more than likely then. Watch your 1% and 0.1% low fps, not the average.

[errant sphinx]

okay

[keen sequoia]

Which one would be better? ( I know they're both not the best, but I don't really care about colors or light bleed) https://www.newegg.com/lenovo-32/p/0JC-0006-00UW4?Item=0JC-0006-00UW4 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824011440?Item=N82E16824011440

[fading wyvern]

The acer

[keen sequoia]

What is better about it?

[fading wyvern]

Mostly the panel, IPS is just generally better, if you want specifics I’ll grab a rtings compare

[keen sequoia]

I didn't even realize that it wasn't ips, thanks

[balmy plaza]

My monitor came with these threee and idk which one to use

[hollow nymph]

Use display port

The second photo

[balmy plaza]

Which one is the 2nd

[balmy plaza]

What do the other two do

[hollow nymph]

One is usb and the other is hdmi which you could also use but most use display port

The usb cable usually allows you to plug your keyboard and mouse into the monitor but I wouldn't

[balmy plaza]

I got a 2nd monitor so I also plug that undo a display port

[hollow nymph]

Yes

Also

Make sure you are plugging them into your gpu if you have one

Not your motherboard

[balmy plaza]

Ok

Both of them right ?

[hollow nymph]

Or hdmi it doesn't really matter unless your monitor is highrefresh 4k and has an older hdmi standard

[hollow nymph]

Yea

[balmy plaza]

Bruh my 2nd monitor came with one hdmi

[hollow nymph]

That's fine

Just use that then

After you have everything plugged in

Make sure to go to display settings

And have them run at the max resolution/refresh rate they can

You can also adjust their positioning if needed while you're there

[misty gyro]

It is also used to control the monitor settings from the OS and update the monitor firmware

Assuming the monitor has those features at all

[silent epoch]

The M27QX looks to be extinct

😭

[misty gyro]

Wow that sucks. Hopefully that means something better is coming but it seems you're right. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1692227-REG/gigabyte_m27q_x_27_16_9_freesync.html

[silent epoch]

Better....hmm

This might be an opening to jump on the LG OLED

[surreal quarry]

There’s also the Dell AW3423DWF

[small warren]

I'd avoid that screen

That's the QD-OLED right?

Has serious burn-in issues experienced from rtings testing, worse than OLED

Great idea but the execution isn't up to the theory yet

[surreal quarry]

Yeah is it really that bad?

[small warren]

There's an rtings article on it

It's bad enough

[surreal quarry]

Mind linking I’m on my phone lol

[small warren]

Sure

• grabs link also on my phone *

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/longevity-investigations-update-3-month

Scroll down to the S95B vs C2 test

After 8 weeks

And it gets worse, they tried a cycling picture next using a CNN feed and the image retention got far worse 💀

QD OLED is still first gen, wait until it's thoroughly ironed out and you have long term burn in testing for any OLED imo

C2 which is WOLED seems to be the only OLED that passes the PC test rn

C3 as well if that carries on with the same WOLED tech

(haven't seen burn-in testing for c3 yet tho)

[surreal quarry]

i see 💀

[silent epoch]

Felix is correct. LG has proven to be the most reliable.

[surreal quarry]

avoid the samsung neo G8 OLED as well?

[silent epoch]

I have the aw3423dwf right in front of me

It's over saturated...yuck

And the contrast are grey in normal lighting conditions, that's not expectable

Text looks fine

But the colors are not realistic

What the heck.... they're so red lol

It's overblown.

In playing with the settings, and it's still a mess

[silent epoch]

The subs pixel layout really is a problem

Up close

[raw ingot]

it's so oversaturated

did someone mess with the settings?

[silent epoch]

idk....i feel like someone did. Even on the creator mode that is supposed to be accurate, it still looked bad. I tried switching between DCI-P3 and sRGB , trash.

[raw ingot]

I guess someone must've messed it up so badly

[silent epoch]

I'll go back to the store and fix it myself lol

the saturation was at 50 percent...still felt like hot garbage

[misty gyro]

Even all the presets are messed up? bruh

[silent epoch]

the gamma was 2:2...thats normal

yeah, fal

[raw ingot]

I guess it is the monitor that's being bad

How did dell even let this pass

[silent epoch]

I'm going to ask them to replace it. theyre going to lose potential sales

[misty gyro]

This is the same company that puts a 13900k on a 120mm AIO with zero airflow

[raw ingot]

Fair enough

But even then, I suspect it's a defective unit

[silent epoch]

i hope so

i looked at the Lg 45GR95QE-B, it was just fine

[raw ingot]

Are these oled?

[silent epoch]

the color and HDR were actually impressive

yeah, OLED

the alienware is a QDOLED

[raw ingot]

Huh, this sounds like a defect indeed

[silent epoch]

mmhhmm

[silent epoch]

I have a feeling that these Best Buy employees didnt bother checking if the monitor was good or not.

[misty gyro]

Here's a shocking revelation for you: the majority of them either don't know what it should look like or don't care

[raw ingot]

That's painfully true

[silent epoch]

smh

[raw ingot]

But my poor eyes definitely hurt looking at those pics

It's washed out and very saturated

[misty gyro]

Yeah I haven't seen color washout that bad in years

[silent epoch]

in person, that happened in about a min

tomorrow im driving back lol

[fading wyvern]

[small warren]

Every pic looks super saturated what the heck is happening lmao

[silent epoch]

Idk. Somome messed it up big time, or it's a manufacturing defect. Whatever it is, my eyes were being assaulted.

[small warren]

Maybe a firmware bug if that's at the middle saturation setting

Did you check around for any manual profiles or maybe a suggestion of bad factory calibration?

Idk I've met a few others who have used this screen and this is definitely the first I've heard about it. Not okay with it either way

Reminds me of when you used to buy TV's with overblown settings out of the box for advertising on a storefront lol

If that even is still a thing, haven't bought one for a while now

[silent epoch]

I'll talk to the folks over at BB. They better fix it

Btw this is SDR. I couldn't toggle on HDR in the display settings.

[small warren]

???????

Wtf

That'ssdr???

[silent epoch]

Yes....

[small warren]

Jfc

[quartz sandal]

I'll sdr you in a minute

[silent epoch]

I went over to the best buy earlier. I told them about the display monitor..let's see what they do lol

[fading wyvern]

[marsh stream]

So havent quite figured it out yet but figure i'd ask for opinions. Currently running 48 inch OLED as main monitor. I want to add a vertical monitor faced in so I can keep the main screen with most of my main stuff and keep the 2nd one Note taking / other stuff. I see a ton of people with 42 inch c2's using something like vertical 27's what size might fight correctly with the 48 inch?

I'm not 100% sold on getting the 2nd monitor more just toying with the idea for work efficiency

Had a dual monitor set up for a long time and have run this giant solo monitor for about 7/8 months now but feel I still might want that 2nd monitor

Dont need anything massive but feel like i need that seperation, open to any and all opinions if you have em

[hexed bramble]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/search/results_details.php?keywords=32GP850-B what do you guys think about this?

would it be worth the price

its 500 cad

32GP850-B - this is the name i think lol

[silent epoch]

Contrast is normal for an IPS, but its good overall

[mighty tide]

Any conceivable reason FPS would vary by say, 20 between HDR and non HDR? Only tested RDR2 but HDR on(monitor level not game) was getting 95 in benchmark and once I turned it off I was up to 115

Everywhere I look says HDR shouldn't affect performance so I'm unsure

Checking other games now just to make sure but does seem weird to me

[mighty tide]

Tomb raider is 10~. Weird IG

[silent epoch]

It shouldn't...be doing that

[mighty tide]

I thought it was auto HDR but when turning that off as well nothing....

RDR2 HDR is so bad but auto hdr is so good

I can live with it tho its playable just seems funky

[silent epoch]

Very weird

[narrow tree]

what does 3-4 weeks til OLED mean?

[misty gyro]

In what context

[narrow tree]

just curious what the wait means

reffering to JP username btw

[silent epoch]

I'm going to buy the LG 27gr95qe

[narrow tree]

over the asus pg27aqdm?

[silent epoch]

Asus bad

[narrow tree]

i've been debating

truuu, but bright doe :/

[silent epoch]

They're pushing the panel. the harder they're doing that, the shorter the life

[narrow tree]

thanks for the insight, i was holding out for the asus

[silent epoch]

And I've seen the LG in person, it's bright enough

@narrow tree there's a new Corsair 27 inch OLED coming soon. You might have to wait on that

I heard it has 3 years of warranty that covers potential burn-in

The pg27aqdm also has crappy HDR, even after a firmware update.

But people tend to exaggerate

[narrow tree]

newegg website doesn't even have the auto-notify option for the asus anymore

maybe cause of the asus controversy recently

[silent epoch]

That's another reason I'm going LG, it's hard to find

[silent epoch]

Doubt

Those are two completely separate things

[narrow oak]

wasnt sure where to ask this between #graphics-cards and here but anyone have any ideas on why my PC would suddenly not display through displayport? ive used displayport for my monitor for a long time then suddenly it just stopped displaying and i tried connecting the cable to another display, putting it in another GPU slot, and restarting the PC and nothing has worked. ive currently got it hooked up with hdmi but without a displayport cable i dont have enough ports to use my other monitor as i only have one HDMI slot on my GPU then another on the motherboard

[misty gyro]

Could be the port died, wouldn't be unheard of. Try DDU first though.

?ddu

[dapper socket]

DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) Guide by Pato
https://github.com/NeweggTechie/Graphics-cards/wiki/How-to-use-DDU

[narrow oak]

Alright thanks

Also I suspected it might be the cable but even tried a different cable but didn't work

[narrow oak]

also could my issue be caused by a virus? just ran a full system check and it came back with a trojan

[misty gyro]

Possibly

Viruses can do just about anything once they're in the system

[narrow oak]

alright

i think thats what happened

my mom downloaded some software from an ad and opened it and then a few hours later or a day i forget this happened

would it cause any physical damage or would DDU possibly fix it at that point? i wont be able to try DDU for another few hours

[misty gyro]

There could be lingering "damage" to the operating system but DDU will wipe out everything related to the GPU

[narrow oak]

alright cool thanks

[narrow oak]

DDU didnt work

[misty gyro]

Try the Windows repair script in this. SFC and DISM. https://github.com/Ryzen5950XT/Windows-stuff/releases/download/Windows-utilities-and-fixes-batch-file/Win.Utils.Fixes.Latest.launcher.bat

[silent epoch]

https://youtu.be/i7pUC05yE2k

LG wins this round

[kindred umbra]

Jus got the shipment in for these at my store

[sage trail]

owo

[kindred umbra]

It’s making me want an oled monitor again ngl

But I 100% don’t need it

[silent epoch]

WOAGH

[surreal quarry]

You mean WOLED?

[raw ingot]

it's a woah with a g

[silent epoch]

Yes

[tidal star]

/imagine closeup photoshoot of an African man with a suit and tie

[raw ingot]

[young saddle]

Best 1440 curved gaming monitor, ~32"? Looks like Dell and Samsung have two reasonable top options

[young saddle]

What are the implications of not having HDR or HDMI 2.1?

[young saddle]

Dell S3222GM
Samsung Odyssey G5

[raw ingot]

HDR doesn't matter

Well at least for most monitors anyway

[narrow tree]

anyone happy with the samsung neo g8? been contemplating but idk

[misty gyro]

For $1200 get OLED instead. VA at that price is actual garbage.

[narrow tree]

yeah, i've been thinking about making the jump to oled. thanks for the advice

[misty gyro]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wywypg/alienware-aw3423dwf-342-3440-x-1440-165-hz-curved-monitor-aw3423dwf

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/dell/alienware-aw3423dwf

QD-OLED doesn't have nearly as much burn in risk

[surreal quarry]

@misty gyro isnt qd oled the one that has the most burn in risk?

[misty gyro]

That was a Samsung issue, not a technology issue. Samsung OLEDs seem to get a lot more burn in generally.

WOLED seems to be the best for burn in

[surreal quarry]

best as in most or least burn in?

[misty gyro]

Time stamped for clarity
https://youtu.be/my1lyUE7WVM?t=367

[misty gyro]

Best as in least, at least where a lot of static white elements are present like when using it as a monitor

The white subpixel means it doesn't need to light all the subpixels to display a white image

Rtings added the above alienware monitor to their burn in testing so we'll have more details soon

[surreal quarry]

yeah guess so. But for now I will avoid qd-oled

[narrow oak]

also didnt work... i just completely wiped my windows drive too and reinstalled and issue persisted... think its likely physical damage?

i just realized my warranty is out too

[misty gyro]

Completely wiped as in erased all partitions?

Including any data partitions on secondary drives

[narrow oak]

yep

well secondary drives arent even connected

left them unplugged

was waiting till i upgraded to Win11 to plug them back in

[silent epoch]

Hhhhhmmmm

[solid niche]

any meaningful ultrawide upgrades from x34p yet? had this thing for ages, 120hz ips. uw market seems like it hasnt developed much

[gilded aurora]

Any chances of fixing a crooked montior? Just realized it’s crooked tilts down

[misty gyro]

If you can take off the stand you can put washers on the screws to tilt it a bit. Otherwise just put something under the feet.

[strong barn]

Hey I'm currently looking for a new monitor for gaming, it's been a few years since I shopped, and I was wondering what I should be looking/looking out for. Like I understand the lookout for a good resolution, good refresh rate, good response time (I assume 1ms is good, but idk); but is there anything else I need to look out for, such as VA vs IPS? Or does something like that not matter?

[silent epoch]

What's your budget. That's the very first question you should always ask yourself.

IPS is the best

1440p is the most balanced resolution

And 1ms is a marketing lie that I'm shocked they're not being sued for( lol)

[strong barn]

well I guess I am looking at the lower end, around 200-300 range. I found this one here but idk if its a good value or not.
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824011453?Item=N82E16824011453&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-011-453-_-05222023

[strong barn]

what does this mean?

[small warren]

@strong barn what gpu is this gonna be used with

[silent epoch]

It's a time measurement of how fast a pixel can turn from one color to the another.

[strong barn]

2060 super

[silent epoch]

LCDS, the most common monitor, can't do it without the image breaking up in some places on the fastest mode.

[strong barn]

Sorry, I meant the one MS scam?

[silent epoch]

Yeah it is

[strong barn]

Why is it?

[small warren]

You'd want 1080p

[fading wyvern]

[small warren]

Unless you're upgrading both gpu and monitor, go 1080p

[silent epoch]

They're not capable of doing one millisecond. What you see on advertisements is not true

[hollow nymph]

(For high refresh rate)

[strong barn]

Ah, understood

[hollow nymph]

How is the 2060super at 1440p with dlss

[strong barn]

Withy current 1440p I haven't had any issues

[hollow nymph]

The 1070 ti wasn't that bad without it

[small warren]

Pretty terrible on anything recent

[hollow nymph]

Damn

[small warren]

Hence my question

Lol

2060 super is good but 1440p is a bunch above it

[hollow nymph]

Yeah

I guess I should have tried more games at 1440 on the 1070ti

Cyberbug was 60fps at high

With fsr quality tho

So it's kinda cheating haha

[fading wyvern]

Eh monitor will probably outlast the 2060, he already has a 2560p panel anyways

Could always go overkill and if the perf isn’t there just drop down the res to 1080

[small warren]

He alr has 1440p?

[strong barn]

Yes

[small warren]

(2K means 1080p btw)

[fading wyvern]

Sorry qhd

[strong barn]

So what is the difference between VA and IPS if you don't mind me asking?

[small warren]

VA has better contrast, but can often come with ghosting

[fading wyvern]

Va is a bit ghosty and curvy and ips is bright and doesn’t get dark, tldr ips better most of the time

[small warren]

Yeah that^

If you have a good refresh rate 1440p rn I'd upgrade the gpu instead

Bump up to like a 6700XT or something for 300

That happily runs 1440p

[fading wyvern]

Could always just wait tho

[strong barn]

Unfortunately in my current circumstances, it's unlikely that I would have the monitor for much longer. That's why I'm looking in towards an upgrade. And I saw the deal on the VA, but had no ideas of it was good or not

[small warren]

Ah ok

Yeah then I would def curb things down a notch

G24F 2 is almost always around the 150 mark up until recently

Unless you want something with a higher refresh, you could find a used alienware like the 240hz one

As long as it's cheap enough

[strong barn]

Okay so what is the ideal refresh rate, like I've been running with 144s for a while, I mean it's 165 170 worthwhile, it's 240 Hz worth while?

[small warren]

Higher reso is indeed nicer but a really good display can make up for that difference

It depends on what games

If you play say, CS2 all the time, high refresh might be nicer cos your system would handle it

[strong barn]

So going off this example, would 240 Hz be overkill?

[small warren]

240hz is definitely in the overkill territory imo, hence a used one would be wise

They come with a decent price hike

G24F 2 is my go to cos it comes in cheap and it's regarded as the best 1080p all rounder

[fading wyvern]

Diminishing returns on high refresh rate monitors really kick in after 144hz, not saying it’s worthless or not a nice to have just saying it doesn’t matter all that much especially if you can save a buck

[small warren]

Yeah

To put it blank, the bigger number is definitely better but the more the number the exponentially less of a difference it makes to your gaming experience

[strong barn]

Ok I think this answers the question rather well, so around 144hz is the sweet spot?

[small warren]

144 is generally regarded as a good sweet spot yes

[fading wyvern]

144-170hz monitors tend to be the sweet spot ye 👍

[small warren]

I think g24f 2 is 170 iirc

[strong barn]

Now I understand why you're recommending me at 1080p, and I will take that into consideration, but to understand all my options, since as someone noted earlier the monitor will probably outlast the upgrades that would eventually be made. What would be your 1440p recommendation?

Since the g24f 2 is you 1080p recommendation correct?

[fading wyvern]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012015? The g27q is pretty cheap rn

The m27q is also under 300 atm

[small warren]

If there's any of our regulars at 220 or less then I'd grab those if not then m27q yeah

[strong barn]

I mean, looking at the recommendations at the bottom there, and maybe I messed something up we'll looking at this, but would 165 hurts be worth a $10 difference?
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824117161?Item=9SIAN7GJTW3638&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIAN7GJTW3638-_-05222023

[fading wyvern]

That looks like a solid option, I’d say it’s worth $10 I’m also a fan of viewsonic

The little birds are cute okay?

[small warren]

Oh G27Q is 230 rn? That's not bad

It was stuck at like, 250 for 4 months

[strong barn]

And just to ask one final question just so that I fully understand, IPS is worth a 60 from a VA?

[small warren]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012015

[fading wyvern]

Why are you linking my link again

[small warren]

You can't really blanket the difference these days

[small warren]

It's so good we need it twice

[small warren]

Typically yes IPS is just better

[fading wyvern]

Va is fine

[small warren]

But there are VA options that can be excellent

[strong barn]

Ok this one is a VA, what your thoughts on this values compared to the IPS you just sent?

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824011453?Item=N82E16824011453&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-011-453-_-05222023

[fading wyvern]

I’d pay for a better stand

[small warren]

Ah it's curved hence va

[fading wyvern]

Personally

[small warren]

It's probably good tbh

But I'd upgrade gpu with it

[fading wyvern]

Monitor is probably perfectly fine, just hate those basic no adjustment stands

[small warren]

Fair

[fading wyvern]

Can also get a desk mounted stand easily for less then the total of the g27q

[strong barn]

Would you pay for IPS over VA?

[fading wyvern]

Eh

Yes. But also no?

Depends on use

Gaming and just gaming no, professional work yes.

Ips tends to be more color accurate then va

[strong barn]

So if I am just using it for gaming, VA would be a better call for the 60 doller different?

And just one more thing, how jarring is it going from a IPS to a VA, is that something I'm going to notice? Because currently I do have an IPS for the 1440p monitor

[fading wyvern]

It probably won’t be jarring va can have pretty severe ghosting which is just pixels leaving trails of images across small sections of the screen. Most va panels are generally fine though

You might notice a tiny bit of ghosting

The va for $60 less and from a reputable brand would be my pick if I was just gaming

[fading wyvern]

It’s like afterimage from a ninja

[strong barn]

@small warren your overall thought? Would you do the same as what Darvan said above, or would you do something different? if you don't mind me asking anyways

[fading wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/dbgt-gif-25897781

[small warren]

look at reviews of that $180 VA and see if it's plenty good enough

if not, then go G27Q

or rather

go G24F 2 cos 2060 super barely runs 1440p if at all

[errant edge]

G24f 2 pog

[narrow tree]

https://www.amazon.com/LG-UltragearTM-Monitor-nVIDIA®-Compatible/dp/B0BRBW8KRK/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=3NIJM6G5ZOALW&keywords=lg+27gr95qe&qid=1684806064&sprefix=lg+27gr95qe%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-1-spons&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.2b70bf2b-6730-4ccf-ab97-eb60747b8daf&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExV1YxOTFQUjM5T0tSJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjk2NDUwSVRFTzEwNEFZT01MJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MzU1MjdIRE8xS0VUMFFMSlQmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3RMb2dDbGljaz10cnVl

lg oled for $100 off

i got best buy to price match, thought I'd share

[silent epoch]

o

[silent epoch]

thats my next monitor. thanks

[silent epoch]

i can get it for 789 open-box

hmm

[small warren]

I've recently learned the 240HZ LG is a WOLED, so it get's my current approval

[hollow nymph]

Woah led

[small warren]

JP hates this joke

you should tell him again in vc

[hollow nymph]

Woah

https://tenor.com/view/led-gif-25674652

[silent epoch]

@hollow nymph I'm waiting for my paycheck):

[hollow nymph]

Oooo

New monitor

[silent epoch]

I'll be a true gamer again @hollow nymph

[hollow nymph]

Yes

[kindred umbra]

A bit underwhelming

[hollow nymph]

is that a matte display

[small warren]

You mean matte

[hollow nymph]

I aint typing out all that

[small warren]

Dang

Only 2 letters

Difference between doormat and paint

[kindred umbra]

Only company doing glossy oled monitors to my knowledge is dough or whatever

And they are terrible in customer service

And rarely ship out stuff/support software

[hollow nymph]

Does that not just defeat the purpose of the inky blacks u get from oled

[kindred umbra]

Kinda but not really

Sony uses a semi matte finish on TVs

[silent epoch]

I heard its the most dim OLED

[small warren]

Kinda? OLED's basically look turned off when you have a full black screen so you still get the impression it's as dark as it can get

[silent epoch]

The matte finish thing is GREATLY EXAGGERATED

I've seen it in person, it does not affect the contract

If you want glossy, you must not mind seeing clear reflections on the screen

[small warren]

Also that^

[hollow nymph]

Glossy just looks better to me

idk

[small warren]

Glossy means you're gonna see a lot of yourself in the screen

[hollow nymph]

Funny enough my grandma has a qled tv thats glossy and it looks really good imo

[hollow nymph]

Yeah true

[small warren]

Yeah it does, but I'd avoid glossy in any bright environment

Even with the sun on the backdrop it can get really distracting

[hollow nymph]

Lets be honest most people that are buying an oled monitor dont open their curtains /s

[hollow nymph]

What do you know about aoc

https://a.co/d/iMb2PNa

This is my monitor

[raw ingot]

In a tv context, I feel a matte surface is much better than glossy in usability

Less reflections getting in the way

[kindred umbra]

I’m cool with either matte or glossy but I do think glossy looks better personally

[keen sequoia]

Reflections just make it way more annoying

[hollow nymph]

What if I like seeing my beautiful face in my monitor

[keen sequoia]

Then you're weird

[severe depot]

is this a good monitor: https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-DisplayHDR-FreeSync-Streaming-LS34BG850SNXZA/dp/B0BLF2RWNV/?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_w=bKHDR&content-id=amzn1.sym.bc5f3394-3b4c-4031-8ac0-18107ac75816&pf_rd_p=bc5f3394-3b4c-4031-8ac0-18107ac75816&pf_rd_r=TEYZEGGWARACP0KGB54H&pd_rd_wg=c1hGa&pd_rd_r=630a1318-a2ac-485b-b9dc-e18eacf3c530&ref_=pd_gw_ci_mcx_mr_hp_atf_m&th=1

I'm just looking to get a 4k monitor with a decent refresh rate. I've seen posts on reddit about people liking getting a wide curved OLED monitor.

[surreal quarry]

yes but qd-oleds have burn in problems

[kindred umbra]

Not a fan of the Samsung model specifically

I’d go for Alienware instead

[surreal quarry]

as long as its not qd-oled ur fine

[kindred umbra]

Quick burn in jus means a free upgrade if you get a protection plan 😎

[silent epoch]

the contrast is greyish in normal lighting conditions

thats the biggest drawback from alienware

[kindred umbra]

its not worth the extra money imo

and poor io

[misty gyro]

Most protection plans don't cover burn in

Squaretrade for example doesn't

[kindred umbra]

fair

only place id pick up an oled is form bb bc the gsp

[silent epoch]

Best buy does

Like lance said

[misty gyro]

Yes but most don't

[silent epoch]

Right

Does MC do it?

[misty gyro]

You know I never checked because the closest one to me is 9 hours away, 14 with traffic.

[silent epoch]

Lol

It's always a road trip away

[misty gyro]

It does not cover burn in according to a few sources

Apparently each store has different policies though

[silent epoch]

@misty gyro do you know any good m27qx alternatives?

[misty gyro]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VNt9TW/lg-32gq850-b-320-2560x1440-240-hz-monitor-32gq850-b
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ssH7YJ/dell-aw2723df-270-2560-x-1440-240-hz-monitor-aw2723df
Both have the same or better gaming score on rtings

That's a M27Q alternative, not M27Q-X. The X is 240Hz.

Sadly it's been discontinued

[small warren]

Yeah I saw these but didn't know if I should post

[misty gyro]

Idk, JP knows what he wants though

[silent epoch]

😤

hi

[fading wyvern]

[errant flax]

Out of curiosity, what's the best OLED monitor currently?

[small warren]

C2

Haven't you asked this before

[errant flax]

No.

Is the c2 a TV?

[small warren]

Yes

It's also used in a few monitor models

[errant flax]

?

The tech?

[small warren]

The panel

[errant flax]

What monitors uses it?

[silent epoch]

If you have the money....GO OLED

[fading wyvern]

a word of warning, woled is not great to work on text with. the weird subpixel layout rwgb strains your eyes like crazy.

[misty gyro]

Well yes that is a weakness of OLED, text things in general tend to cause extra burn in also

[silent epoch]

HOLY

It's amazing!!!

[silent epoch]

Nope ...text is one hundred percent legible

Strain....huh....I'll have to test that

But gaming in the dark

11/10

With HDR

Matte finish is perfect

And the brightness is just enough

[hollow nymph]

How many nits is sdr

Mine is only high 200s and I find that perfectly fine for now

[misty gyro]

What monitor are you referring to

[reef elbow]

Figure it might be more conducive to ask in here... rolling with a 3070 and 12400f, looking to upgrade my monitor from a VG259QMY to something a bit bigger... budget can move around a bit but not looking to break the bank on oleds or anything. Would probably prefer an IPS? I dunno, so many options these days

[reef elbow]

There's a 27GN600-B I could grab second hand for 160 locally... might be able to talk them down

[misty gyro]

27 inch 1080p isn't ideal, you can push a 1440p with a 3070

The G27Q is on sale for $230 right now https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012015

[silent epoch]

It's around 200 on gamer one

[fading wyvern]

WOLED and OLED are a bit different btw, one has that extra white subpixel, and unless it’s in a fairly standard 27in 1440p display it’s gunna be in one of those crazy 45in ultra wides (ppi rip)

[silent epoch]

The 45 inch is bad. You could see color fringing and obviously the pixels. The 27 inch is perfect. You're going to see zero complaints besides the web browser white's being a bit dim

[fading wyvern]

What monitor did you buy?

[silent epoch]

The LG 27gr95qe-b

I even did the firmware update

Looks amazing

I'm being dead honest

[fading wyvern]

Ah gotchya yeah that’s just rgb subpixel (I’m wrong)

[silent epoch]

Mmhhmm

[fading wyvern]

WOLED is brutal

[silent epoch]

Some people online said that the matte coating is like vaseline being smeared on a screen.....liars

[silent epoch]

It's WOLED

[fading wyvern]

[silent epoch]

Thats you???@fading wyvern

😬

It's great and all...but it's too big for 1440p

They should have made it 4k

[fading wyvern]

My b

Yeah headache after 20 minutes

[silent epoch]

Rip

[fading wyvern]

Looks great in games but instant return

[silent epoch]

Sad

You should get either the same monitor I have or get one of the qd oleds @fading wyvern

[fading wyvern]

It was to replace another standard ultrawide; qdoleds burn in was a bit more concerning

[silent epoch]

Yeah...

[fading wyvern]

The ppi plus the layout definitely didn’t help eye strain

[silent epoch]

🤮

definitely return it

[small warren]

Join me and ggood in the FV43U QLED gang

(don't ask about bgr don't ask about bgr don't ask about bgr don't as-)

[silent epoch]

Ok ok ok...not bad not bad

[reef elbow]

I ended up shooting for that acer one at 209, thanks for the suggestion though ❤️

[reef elbow]

Real question is what to do with the other 3 now haha... I've got a 75hz 23 (lenovo qhi or something?), 280hz 23 (the asus one), and a dell 29inch ultrawide... I almost want to ditch the ultrawide and stick the high hz monitor in its place but I'm not sure... what would yall do?

[misty gyro]

I'd keep the two 23's and flip them vertical. Put one on each side of the new monitor. Sell the ultrawide. You now have an ultrawide but better.

I use a secondary monitor for discord, music, browsing, etc while gaming so a vertical monitor works great

[small warren]

Yeah the FV43U is the "I don't wanna deal with ur burn-in nonsense" answer

It's great, it's not OLED no, but it's great anyway

[silent epoch]

When in doubt of burn in...get that extended warranty lol

[small warren]

You could yeah, but at the time I bought it WOLED wasn't tested extensively yet

I would've gone C2 otherwise

[misty gyro]

But make sure whatever extended warranty you get covers burn in

[silent epoch]

@misty gyro ye

[reef elbow]

Two verticals ey? Not a bad idea

[severe depot]

do you guys think it would be worth upgrading to a 2560x1440 240hz monitor from a 1920x1080 240hz monitor. I was thinking of getting an ultrawide monitor with a 144hz refresh rate and a 3840x1600 resolution but I feel like this is a good compromise between quality and refresh rate. Plus its like $300 cheaper. I do mainly want to priortize quality over refresh rate but I do play some shooters and my graphics card can run some of them higher than 144 fps at a 2k resolution.

[small warren]

Depends on the gpu and psu

[severe depot]

I have a 4090 and a 1000 watt psu

[small warren]

Definitely then

1080p 240hz is an absolute bottleneck

[severe depot]

will definitely start looking into good monitors with those specs thank you

[small warren]

Np

[misty gyro]

Even at 1440p your CPU will often be the bottleneck when using a 4090

[silent epoch]

[errant edge]

4090 at 1080p. That causes me mental, physical, and spiritual pain

[errant flax]

That's all?

[small warren]

Religious pain

[snow flint]

is AOC a good monitor company?

[errant edge]

they have some good and some bad

[snow flint]

would this be more on the good or bad side

https://www.amazon.com/AOC-C27G2Z-Frameless-Ultra-Fast-Adjustable/dp/B088LG2BSW/ref=asc_df_B088LG2BSW/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459623382939&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4080293349390316594&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9011476&hvtargid=pla-930870391813&th=1

[errant edge]

I would say check rtings

But just on the advertised specs alone it seems nice

[snow flint]

whats rtings

oh

oh

ratings

i would say this is pretty decent

ill prob go with this one as the price and specs are pretty good

thanks for the help

[errant edge]

a website

[quartz sandal]

rtings.com they do reviews on tech things

[errant flax]

Ehhh better but still not enough.

[misty gyro]

That's about a 6.5/10
Major things hurting it are 1080p at 27" and curved so bad panel

[sonic vapor]

Found it; Thank you Fal'Cie!

[misty gyro]

Yep there it is

[snow flint]

Current one has same specs besids hz

Is the panel its self bad?

Or in general for curved monitors

[raw ingot]

Curved almost always meams VA so yes

VA is inferior to IPS in many ways

[silent epoch]

OLED on top

[errant edge]

I went from 1080p VA 24in to 1440p ips 27in, difference was night and day

[severe depot]

has anybody had any experience with this monitor: SAMSUNG 32" Odyssey Neo G8 4K UHD 240Hz 1ms G-Sync 1000R Curved Gaming Monitor, Quantum HDR2000, AMD FreeSync Premium Pro, Matte Display, Ultrawide Game View, DisplayPort, HDMI, Black & White, 2022 https://a.co/d/eVAUTgo

i see on the reviews and online that there are scanlines issues but some people say they arent that bad while others say they are. I just upgraded to a 4090 and wanted a monitor to pair it with and this looks like the best choice.

[small warren]

HDR2000 sounds like mini* led

[severe depot]

is that bad?

[small warren]

Not really, they have some bloom issues on the early iterations

Seems expensive

Suggestion

Have a look at the LG C2 OLED 42"

Or if you can find one cheap enough, any Odyssey G9 240hz 1440p

Those two are also in this sort of endgame tier

Gigabyte M32U is another one if you want a solid monitor for a 4090 but don't want to spend a fortune for good quality

[surreal quarry]

pg42uq

[small warren]

Same thing

[surreal quarry]

ROGy pogy

[silent epoch]

Huh

[kindred umbra]

I think my monitor jus killed itself 😭

[silent epoch]

What happened?

[kindred umbra]

Idek tbh but I think it's from bad qc

It looks like there are water stains under my display. I had issues with the monitor before where their was streaking under the display but I exchanged it when a long while back

[silent epoch]

[coarse drift]

gm

[surreal quarry]

I should go hdmi right because it has higher bandwidth?

[misty gyro]

DP is preferable usually

1.4 is enough for 4k 120Hz

And HDMI spec is stupid because you can call a port that only has 2.0 speed "2.1"

[surreal quarry]

doest it compress it if I do 10bit HDR 4k120

[misty gyro]

Is that the actual monitor in question here? I can check if it's true 2.1

[surreal quarry]

yes

they also have some hdmi 2.0 ports so i dont see why they would lie

[misty gyro]

Because having 2.1 on the spec sheet looks better than 2.0

[surreal quarry]

fair

[misty gyro]

Yep that one has full 2.1 bandwidth, use HDMI

[surreal quarry]

great thanks! How did u check?

[misty gyro]

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/asus/rog-swift-oled-pg42uq

Either should work but DP would probably compress like you said

[surreal quarry]

hang on, rtings says the 2.1 ports are sidefacing, but the manual says otherwise https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/LCD Monitors/PG42UQ/ASUS_PG42UQ_English.pdf?model=PG42UQ

[misty gyro]

Those look pretty side facing to me

The picture is just rotated for clarity

[surreal quarry]

4 and 5 facing the bottom

[misty gyro]

Yeah but the 2.1 ports are the side facing ones

[misty gyro]

Oh I see what you mean now

Eh, minor thing really.

[surreal quarry]

I'll trust the manual

[misty gyro]

I would too

Rtings is run by humans too after all

But at least the humans writing the manual probably know more about it

[surreal quarry]

hopefully... thanks for the help

[misty gyro]

You'll find out when you try it I guess

No problem

[blissful vigil]

Anyone know how the 32gb lg ultragear with VA panels are?

[raw ingot]

Bleh

Don't get VA

[kindred umbra]

most curved panels are va tho

o nvm he said 32 not 34, most 32s come in flat ips options

[rocky cypress]

32gb

[silent epoch]

Ips or nothing

[fading wyvern]

Ips or nothing? Not even oled? Dang alright

[small warren]

Dang

VA out ig

Rip oled

[misty gyro]

Where does that leave my TN?

It's only a secondary, does that need to be IPS too?

[small warren]

*cries in lcd *

[fading wyvern]

Guess I gotta toss my watch

It’s too analog

[silent epoch]

OLED or nothing

Might as well draw yourself a screen

[small warren]

What 12 hours does to a man

[silent epoch]

Lol

[serene dome]

Hi guys. I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand. I'm looking for a monitor that would be great for both creative purposes and gaming?

Looking for something with 2ms or less refresh
10 bit
Large color gamut
IPS pannel
2k or 4k
And maybe something more. There's so much out there, and I'm not really sure whats true to what it says or not.

[silent epoch]

@serene dome budget?

[serene dome]

Trying to stay under 600 if possible.

[silent epoch]

[serene dome]

Should I make it a bit higher?

Because I definitely want something quality.

[silent epoch]

The m28u is a nice 4k monitor

[silent epoch]

It's all up to you.

I'll do more research

As for 1440p monitors....all the good ones that are reasonable to get are gone

Check this out on @Newegg:GIGABYTE 28" 144Hz 4K SS IPS Gaming Monitor, 1ms, FreeSync Premium Pro, UHD 3840 x 2160, 94% DCI-P3, HDR Ready, 1 x DisplayPort 1.4, 2 x HDMI 2.1, 3 x USB 3.0, 1 x USB Type-C KVM M28U https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16824012040?Item=N82E16824012040&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-24-012-040-_-06232023

Color accuracy and color gamut is very important for me as well. You'll enjoy this

After pre-calibrating the monitor, the colors will be superb on accuracy.

gamut is okay

[small warren]

M27Q/Q-X/Q-P is a runner up

[serene dome]

That looks like a great deal!

So my next question comes from inexperience.

I'm afraid with a 4k monitor I'm going to be pushing my PC capabilities a bit more, say I'm playing something, is it just super easy to downscale to like 2k or something if I'm having trouble running something?

[small warren]

What gpu have you got

[silent epoch]

Dead and gone

[serene dome]

3080

[small warren]

3080 gonna struggle in a lot of titles

Unless you're a pure fps player

Or say, racing sim?

M27Q would be a better bet

[small warren]

Even the Q?

I know QX is gone

[silent epoch]

Whoops ...the Q is still around. But they have a higher budget

[small warren]

Ye

But alas, 3080

💀

It be a 1440p card

(mostly)

[silent epoch]

It can do 4k to

There's no such thing as a card dedicated to a specific resolution

[small warren]

Ya but by reasonable means it's losing that ground

[silent epoch]

Yeah

Even the 4090 will be a 1440p card soon

These games don't care

[serene dome]

That makes sense. And that's okay, I run at 1440 now. But it shouldn't be a problem just to down scale right?

[silent epoch]

I would stick to 1440p then

[serene dome]

My main purpose is for creating. I do a lot of 3D work, and my current monitor is knock-off trash. And I noticed my colors in my work were WAYYY off from where they should be.

[small warren]

No point buying the double+ price screen and not use it in the way it's intended

Ah

[serene dome]

Id like to render images in 4k

Get as much detail as I can

[silent epoch]

Hmmmm

[small warren]

You can render 4k on 1440p tho

[serene dome]

1440 is still an option

[small warren]

Nothing stopping that

Ye

[serene dome]

Oh ya.

Not at all

[small warren]

I'd just go 1440p and save the money

[serene dome]

I'm totally cool with getting a monitor with the same kinda spec for 1440

I'm not itching to go 4k, I just need a better quality monitor for my work

Something with both capabilities.

[silent epoch]

I think he actually wants to see 4k on the screen, not a 1440p pixel count.

[small warren]

I know what he's saying

[silent epoch]

[serene dome]

LMao

[small warren]

I do a bunch of this stuff myself for my team

[serene dome]

Sorry to be so confusing

[small warren]

Lolol

Screen to screen viewing imo like, from an audience perspective? Is gonne give you some variation anyway

Idk unless this is a more granular need

[serene dome]

So like.

[small warren]

👀

[serene dome]

So my last really big work, I spent hundreds of hours on, busted butt. And then once I was done, I checked it out on a quality screen and MAN was a bunch of stuff off.

Including black levels and etc

[small warren]

I had a discussion like this last week with my photo buddy, and he said he wants the amazing world of a perfect screen for editing but also gaming

[serene dome]

So, I don't know if 4k will necessarily help. But definetly color and black values

[small warren]

So I said, "like a proart but also an oled?"

He said yes

I told him those don't exist

[serene dome]

Hahaha.

[small warren]

Reso won't so much help

[serene dome]

Oled are so expensive.

[small warren]

You're looking for a viewing profile not really associated to reso

In this case OLED would honestly be great

QLED can be really good too for vibrancy

[serene dome]

Is there a decent oled that won't bend me over for over 1k?

[small warren]

Not really

[serene dome]

I figured haha

[small warren]

So we go down to good ips

[serene dome]

I'd love an OLED screen, but mannnnn

[small warren]

M28U or better yet, M32U make a lot of sense, but you get caveats in the scenario of using it for gaming

1. 4k gaming will be a bit of a drag
2. 1440p gaming will be a blur

So it becomes a bit of a wash

The M28/32U is about as close to greatness as we can be feasible with tho for professional editing

But on the other hand...

[serene dome]

Is the 28u 1440?

[small warren]

M27Q is also out of the box with an excellent colour profile

The 27q is

U is for 4k

Q is for 1440p

[serene dome]

AH!

[small warren]

Ye!

So while the M27Q isn't quite as great, you can chance some savings and ease of use on a lower tier

The 28u/32u is worthy of a new gpu imo

[serene dome]

That might be a better go ahead. Once I upgrade my GPU next year, it shouldn't be an issue. But I just dropped a bunch on my new CPU and a bunch of parts

And quite honestly, anything is going to be an upgrade to this

I'm PRETTTY sure I have a VA panel right now.

But it's like..A viotek monitor

[small warren]

Oh god viotek

[serene dome]

It's done me well, but man, it's just washed iout

[small warren]

Lolol

Suggestion too

[serene dome]

$300 1440 monitor was nice at the time 🙃

[small warren]

You could sell the 3080 for 420-ish

Then go 7900 xtx for 880

[serene dome]

I need the cudacores

[small warren]

Oh, you use blender?

[serene dome]

Most software I use piggybacks on Nvidia infastructure

[small warren]

Oh I see

Hmm

[serene dome]

Maya, substance painter, Zbrush, Vray, blender

A lot

[small warren]

Yeah alr

Ok so 4k isn't really on the table

[serene dome]

But upgrading to a 4090 means I have to change up a whole lot. So. That'll be next year.

[small warren]

Ok alternative to the alternative

💀

You could also get that LG 240hz OLED

For a massive price

But it's 1440p and it would serve you well

In everything

[serene dome]

Which one?

Do you think uh..

[small warren]

Iirc

[serene dome]

That 28q would be a good upgrade?

[small warren]

27gn95

27Q is good but it'll be too small shoes for a 4090

On the other hand the OLED is a bit more worthy for it

Could also do G7 or G9 if you want a very bright screen

[serene dome]

I might look at that, when that time comes. No telling what next year will bring.