#peripherals-and-displays

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queen sigil
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rugged lion
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lower end, do u mean more thocky or quieter?

empty urchin
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Not thocky, clicks are nice tbh but quieter

rugged lion
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u want a silent clicky? i dont follow

queen sigil
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read

rugged lion
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i see the context

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hes new, thats fine

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lordx, lets do this

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ignoring sound for a second

empty urchin
rugged lion
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when u press a switch

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Tactile: has a tactile bump during the keypress before bottom-out

Linear: has an smooth keypress with no tactile bump

Clicky: has a tactile bump and an audible click sound

empty urchin
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hmm evaluating options

rugged lion
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i see

empty urchin
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sorry if my statements had seemed contradictory at times

rugged lion
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ur fine dw

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ive said stupider stuff before

sly warren
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I mean, there are Quiet Clicky switches.

empty urchin
sly warren
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But, they are basically tied to 1 defunct switch type.

empty urchin
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rip

sly warren
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Well, I say "defunct"

sly warren
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You can still get new boards with Matias Quiet Clicks

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It's just, you won't get any RGB or anything like that.

rugged lion
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slow down now

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lordx let me know once your options have been fully evaluated

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if u get a hotswap board btw (which im assuming u will) u can always just pop in different swtiches

sly warren
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Oh of course the Matias Quiet Clicks don't come in a Full Size...

empty urchin
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curious, what is the kb enthusiast opinion on the Omni point switches from steelseries?

queen sigil
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nothing

sly warren
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Dumb, and probably feel like crap

rugged lion
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a big no tbh

queen sigil
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actually theres the wooting i think

rugged lion
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gmk british racing green is actually kinda fire

empty urchin
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for tactile; the tactile bump before the bottom out is where it actuates right?

rugged lion
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the actuation is during the bump yes

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like u press the key, bump, actuation, then some extra travel, bottom out

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some have pretravel

empty urchin
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that would seem unnecessary imo, too much play

rugged lion
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wdym?

empty urchin
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doesn’t sound like it’s for me at least, the tactile feel in a kb imo should be from the depress, not an excess bottom

rugged lion
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i dont quite follow but sure, if u dont think u will like it then dont even bother with it

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so that narrows it down to clicky and linear

empty urchin
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linear sounds closest to membrane

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in mech world

rugged lion
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some membrane are "tactile"

queen sigil
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most membranes are gonna feel tactile

rugged lion
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handerbeit r2 is 1000% a cop

queen sigil
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@empty urchin @empty urchin if ur going custom the main things you need to consider is how you want it to feel, how you want it to sound, and how you want it to look

rugged lion
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sheesh the double ping

empty urchin
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is clicky, just tactile but with audible clicks?

rugged lion
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yes

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a clicky is a tactile

queen sigil
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clickys are not as tactile and feel different

rugged lion
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yes they are

queen sigil
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but they still overall feel tactile

rugged lion
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clickies are tactile but tactiles are not clickies

empty urchin
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like how a blue is just brown with sound?

rugged lion
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theres a clickbar in it yeah

queen sigil
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i mean they arent the exact same

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but in terms of tactility they are the same

rugged lion
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yes

empty urchin
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If I don’t want spongy [linear], tactile is my only option, so I think I’ll take the leap and try clicky tactile then.

rugged lion
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spongy?

empty urchin
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linear sounds spongy

rugged lion
queen sigil
rugged lion
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is that ur build?>

queen sigil
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first one is linear second one is tactile

queen sigil
rugged lion
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nice builds

empty urchin
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I’ve chosen clicky

rugged lion
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interesting

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what is ur budget again?

queen sigil
rugged lion
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yeah sorry i might've confused u back there when i said clicky = tactile but tactile=/=clicky

queen sigil
empty urchin
queen sigil
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so much for a quiter sound

empty urchin
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I’ve learned that i hate thocky presses

queen sigil
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well clickies are significantly louder than the other options

empty urchin
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The sharp sound is better, but means more net noise. It’s why I’ve been asking for quiet clicky’s

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sounds like that isn’t an option though, so ill have to forgo my exact noise preference

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it seems like im alone on desiring quiet clicky’s here, the only one went defunct too 😅

empty urchin
sly warren
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The reason why I know they exist is because I have a friend with a Matias Quiet Clicks Planck.

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It feels GLORIOUS

empty urchin
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so what’s my options within clicky

queen sigil
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depends on what else you are going to be getting in ur setup

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because for 200$ and if you want nicer switches chances are you're gonna be going custom

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which means ur gonna have to wait a couple months or so for ur keyboard kit to actually arrive depending on which one you ordered

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I recommend looking at the kbd67 lite r2

queen perch
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What’s hot swap mean for a keyboard? Does it just mean you can change it for each operating system?

wanton burrow
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it means you can take out the switches without needing of soldering it

queen perch
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Alright

lyric summit
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so smooth

rugged lion
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Yeah gat caps are neat

ionic star
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does anyone know any good sim steering wheels under 250?

timber ridge
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dont know about about racing sim steering wheels ;/

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ik logitech has a decent one but i havent really looked into it myself

last plinth
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lmao i kept solo q'ing for the whole night and i dropped to gold 1

sly warren
bleak ember
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or buy one that is $250

sly warren
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At $250 you're getting a pretty crap wheel setup

bleak ember
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Thrustmaster TMX Pro is $240

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its pretty alright

sly warren
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And has no Shifter

bleak ember
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Then buy one

sly warren
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Yeah, then that adds more cost ya dingus

bleak ember
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Save up more then...

sly warren
bleak ember
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TMX Pro comes wit ha shiftter actually

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and its $240

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it says it does atleast

sly warren
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The only thing that possibly shows up as saying that it comes with a shifter is the only pattern that says it comes with one (the wheel & Gearbox Shifter package on Amazon)

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But it doesn't say it comes with one in the Description

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Also multiple people have stated that the Force Feedback on this wheel just breaks, or other stuff breaks.

hot cove
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ok so i have a budget of $260 for a headset (needs to feel good and have good audio as well as mic), keyboard, mouse, and mousemat

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what do yall recommend

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anything but razer please

bitter slate
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Does anyone know where I can get a replacement screen for a HP 24-xa0125st. I damaged the screen.

wanton burrow
queen sigil
west hornet
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xD

queen sigil
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HI GHOSty

west hornet
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cheapest option for headphone would be koss porta pro with in line mic, pc37x, pc38x for higher budget. perhaps a cloud ii in mid budget. keyboard keychron seems to be budget option hi leyo. and idk much about mice

queen sigil
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what

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who wanted mice

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Oh he wanted 260$ for everything

west hornet
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ye lol

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idk if a koss ur40 has a mic option

queen sigil
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keychron c1 - $50
Cloud II- $90
Amazon mousepad - 20$
mouse- give or take 100$

wanton burrow
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@hot cove give us your hand measurementscheckthepins, then your grip type

west hornet
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i think mouse can manage under 100, isnt viper mini like 40ish

queen sigil
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i mean

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i would probs get a nicer mouse over anything else

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wireless mice are just nice

west hornet
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i went from wireless to wired ¯_(ツ)_/¯

daring zenith
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@queen sigil why no PC37x :(

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And get like

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Dunno

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Mow

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100$ for mice is kinda high

queen sigil
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expensive

daring zenith
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Pc37x-120$
Keychron C1/C2 - 50$
MOW - 80$
Mousepad - 10$

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That'd fit

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@west hornet also porta pro has microphone? I know ksc75i or whatever does

tight pulsar
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but ur40 :(

rugged lion
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at that point

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just use a piece of paper for ur mousepad

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no joke it actually works surprisingly well

daring zenith
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Meh

rugged lion
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for being free....

daring zenith
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Paper is horrible for me, even when it doesn't slip

neon quartzBOT
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milky#4845 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

rugged lion
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i remember using it like 8 years ago when i had a bad alienware laptop and i played csgo

west hornet
calm cobalt
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or

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beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro 32

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or
AKG K612 Pro

queen sigil
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lol what

west hornet
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260usd for headset, keeb, mouse and mousepad*

queen sigil
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he wants more than just a headset

west hornet
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lol

daring zenith
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@calm cobalt they need headset+keeb+mouse for the price

calm cobalt
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ok

west hornet
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sad did i pay too much for peripherals

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i must fix mic issues so i can buy new mic

calm cobalt
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i have a 30$ mouse a 5$ mouspad a free keyboard

daring zenith
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Peripherals expensive :(

calm cobalt
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and a free mic

daring zenith
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Lol

west hornet
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wow

daring zenith
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Are they going to have a good time with that?

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:p

calm cobalt
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:p

daring zenith
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Didn't mando get a free Corsair k100 and now swears by Corsair

west hornet
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my peripherals were well over 1k usd peepoSadSip

queen sigil
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I have a free mouse, I don't recommend it to people

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since they cant get it for free

calm cobalt
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a free keyboard

queen sigil
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Do I care?

calm cobalt
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its 100$

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no

daring zenith
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Ah yes I have a free PC it's 1600$ go buy it now

calm cobalt
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you dont have to

queen sigil
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You solved that problem

daring zenith
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Point is, that doesn't matter when we're trying to make a suggestion for someone else's budget

queen sigil
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You got free stuff, that's as much as anybody here will care about

calm cobalt
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ok

west hornet
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how did this convo start? lol

daring zenith
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Lemme ping them with leyo's and my suggestion

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Actually nah

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Need to know grip for mice

hot cove
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very relaxed claw

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ty btw

sly warren
sly warren
sly warren
# calm cobalt or AKG K612 Pro

Not bad if you can find them for a good price. They won't have any "fun" things like a V-Shape, they are purely analytical headphones designed to be dead flat

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Great imaging though, excellent for Gaming.

calm cobalt
calm cobalt
sly warren
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There's 1 good HD500 series headphone, the HD560S

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And basically all Beyers are bad.

west hornet
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wow rude

calm cobalt
sly warren
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It's not a joke.

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All of them are super shouty and just not pleasant to listen to.

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Beyer is like, basically Grado, if Grados were at least competently built.

west hornet
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idk about casual listening but they are still used by a lot of people in studios, why do they often prefer some of the beyer's? idk ask them

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lol

calm cobalt
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honestly

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its personal prefrence

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honestly

west hornet
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ye there is that too, some of the dt's are considered very specific taste but if you've tried many headphones and like it why not

sly warren
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They prefer the Beyers because they can use the sound profile of them for mixing music.

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It's the same reason why M50X's suck

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For normal listening and gaming

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Because they were designed with mixing in mind.

tall siren
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So, I'm trying to decide on the size of my desk and know what can fit. Could I see your setups and the width of your desks? (preferably in inches) Would be very helpful!

calm cobalt
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idk i like my sound magic hp 150

timber ridge
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dt880s and dt1990s are good

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rest i cant really say

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atleast for the dt family, ik they have another good headphone but forgot the name

little crater
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dt1990 as studio cans cringe

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just get amiron home, more pleasant treble response

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same headphone

daring zenith
hot cove
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yeah my fingers are slightly raised

west hornet
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hmm maybe i get find pic of my desk and measurement later. but i do know it is getting smol for me xD

timber ridge
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i miss my setup

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ive been using my laptop

ionic stump
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does anyone know if these would fit on a Huntsman mini?

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they look really nice

queen sigil
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@ionic stump they arent the nicest feeling keycaps but they will fit

rugged lion
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why get a tgr jane or a keycult when u could get a RGB LED Backlit Gaming Keyboard with Anti-ghosting, Light up Keys Multimedia Control, USB Wired Waterproof Metal Keyboard for PC Games Office (Silver&White)

queen sigil
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what

tight pulsar
queen sigil
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ducky and fortnite

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wait no

royal sandal
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nachos and cat pics that look like linus

daring zenith
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@queen sigil wdym fortnite made ducky ofc they're together >:D

tight pulsar
wraith roost
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New keebs, who dis?

swift lantern
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got my stimmy pooog

timber ridge
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what r u buying with it

left smelt
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yo guys

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anybody heard of this gateron optical yellow switch v2? Theres a keyboard on bangood( the gamakay mk61) that has it and im curious to know more about it

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thats the keyboard

left smelt
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?

wanton burrow
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have you heard that gateron yellow is good coz it's the "fastest switch"?

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coz it's not

left smelt
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irs probably another version of it

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it isnt i know

wanton burrow
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and get other switch variant

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it's too light

left smelt
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i want a fast linear for less than 60dollars

wanton burrow
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hmmmmm

left smelt
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to me, when i tested these they felt so good like my fingers arent that heavy yk and it felt smooth and everything was great

wanton burrow
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what switch u currently have tho

left smelt
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stinky rubber dome

wanton burrow
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gateron yellow?

left smelt
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nope

queen sigil
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probs just membrane

left smelt
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tried them on a friends house

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yes

queen sigil
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Gateron optical yellows arent terrible but I'd still try and get actual yellows in something like a gk61

left smelt
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cant type😂

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gk61= bad stabilizers

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but mk61 good

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am looking to mod them soo

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it doesnt really matter

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lol

queen sigil
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just said gk61 since its the most popular budget 60% kit

left smelt
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definetely

queen sigil
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just go for something with cherry style switches

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like gateron yellows

left smelt
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but mk61 better gk61 cheaper

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yes

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am still confused with what the gateron yellow v2 switches are

wanton burrow
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35g actuation force might feel too light imo

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but the mechanical gat yellows is great tho

left smelt
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yes

queen sigil
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plus it just looks like a gk61 with pudding keycaps

left smelt
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but imma be playing fps games alot and i need the speed

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wont be typing much

left smelt
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and its got better stabilizers

wanton burrow
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can't find optical yellow v2 lol

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but yellow v2 it's the ink yellows

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as gugulu said

queen sigil
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id say just get reds

left smelt
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are the ink yellows better?

wanton burrow
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hmmmm

left smelt
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gateron reds?

wanton burrow
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gat reds is cheap

left smelt
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i didnt really like their sound tho

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ngl 😂

queen sigil
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make sure you are looking for sound tests for the optical versions of the keyboard

wanton burrow
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wait how much switch u need tho

queen sigil
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nice color change

left smelt
queen sigil
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@wanton burrow i'm assuming he's gonna get a mk61

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which only has gateron optical

wanton burrow
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u want that $60 to like, fir a hundred switches or what

left smelt
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got nothing much to do

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gat yellows sound awesome when lubed

queen sigil
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0:12 Skip intro
0:18 Things for mods
0:40 3 Ways to lube stabilizers (Tube grease or something)
4:03 Installing sound dampening foam (5T)
4:35 Lubing switches, Gateron Optical Reds (Krytox105)
5:46 Switch sounds before & after lube
7:28 Additional mod for wobbling stabilizers
8:14 Typing sounds before mods
8:33 Typing sounds after mods (Desk mat...

▶ Play video
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it sounds fine to me

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plus its gateron optical yellow

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not gateron yellow

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they're totally different switches

wanton burrow
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skyloong 61

left smelt
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oh

timber ridge
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o

left smelt
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i see

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how big is the difference in sound?

queen sigil
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basically the same

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theyre basically the same keyboard

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biggest difference would probs come from the keycaps

left smelt
queen sigil
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which look like DSA profile

wanton burrow
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woah stiff clacks

left smelt
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its double shot pbt keycaps

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so it sounds nice

queen sigil
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that doesnt always mean it sound nice but oke

left smelt
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true

wanton burrow
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that's my main reason why i will buy k6 with some cheap clone keycaps lol

left smelt
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but still tho its good😂

wanton burrow
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keycap sounds too thin to make good sounds lol

left smelt
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should i just get the k66 with gateron optical yellow switches?

queen sigil
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I think my keycaps are like PBT

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not doubleshot

left smelt
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for 5 bucks more

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but its got abs

wanton burrow
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i'm gonna buy kon momo clones even tho r2 gb will rollout i think on april

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there's waiting list already lol

left smelt
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oke lol

wanton burrow
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coz every review says stock keycaps sucks

left smelt
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not on e v e r y keyboard

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most are bad but yeah yk what i mean

wanton burrow
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no on keychron k6 i mean lol

left smelt
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haha okay

queen sigil
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keychron keyboards dont come with the best keycaps

left smelt
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@queen sigil should i get the k66 with gateron yellows instead?

queen sigil
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but its better than buying a cheap keyboard with good keycaps and poop everything else

queen sigil
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gateron yellow>optical yellows

left smelt
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its optical yellows lol

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sorry to dissapoint u😂

queen sigil
left smelt
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so do i do it for 5 bucks or nah?

queen sigil
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just whichever you think looks nicer

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thats basically gonan be the biggest difference

left smelt
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k66 looks sick with frosted acrylic tho

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i will get that one

queen sigil
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id still look for something without optical switches

sacred flicker
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basically

wraith roost
sacred flicker
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yes

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looks good

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I was thinking of backing them up but I was like eehhh

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nah

sturdy sinew
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quick question

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is the keychron k8 hot swap version as good as the keychron k2 hot swap?

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just with a different layout

queen sigil
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they are all basically the same keyboard

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just different layouts

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excrpt the C key oards

wanton burrow
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^^^^^^^^

rugged lion
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no the higher number means more gamering fps

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/s

wanton burrow
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uh no?

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number of keys =/= fps

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more rgb = fps

rugged lion
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no but number higher

honest ether
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I've found my happy place with my keychron c2 after just under two weeks.

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All A-Z keys are red. All other keys are brown.

brisk parcel
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Why hasn’t anyone @ me? 🥺 I miss you guys

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So busy with work and school

tight pulsar
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@brisk parcel hi

brisk parcel
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NACHOS

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Hi buddy 🥺

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Any new exciting audio things I missed?

tight pulsar
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hi

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hm not much really

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lance and mr1 got some new stuff and popcrn keeps talking about ur40

brisk parcel
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Who’s popcrn now? 😂

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You know if you can confirm it’s an alt you can ban them because it’s technically ban evasion cause popcrn is banned

west hornet
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why sad?

brisk parcel
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I’m always sad

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That one girl I talk about, I saw someone today who looked just like her and my brain didn’t process it wasn’t her right away, so I fainted

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For like 5 mins or sumthin like that

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Yeah, as you can tell she had a big impact on me

west hornet
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😦

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covid makes me sad

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and bloody nose

brisk parcel
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Yeah that too

west hornet
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you just faint in middle of hallway or something?

brisk parcel
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I had covid a few months ago

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And no I was at sheetz lmao

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I was just doing my weekly sheetz run before work

west hornet
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lol

brisk parcel
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Yeah

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I got a free breakfast tho 😎

west hornet
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that’s nice, during week i don’t often get breakfast or lunch

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just dinner peepoSadSip

brisk parcel
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Oof what do you do? 😂

west hornet
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i run out house, sit at desk, go home, practice piano, then realize i am starving and eat xD

brisk parcel
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Lmao

west hornet
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talking about this is making me hungry now Sick

brisk parcel
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Then go eat bro 😂 not stopping ya

west hornet
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hmm today i actually did get breakfast, it was a slice of bread

west hornet
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fat catto

sly warren
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Not strictly peripheral related, but I'm getting a 2nd gen iPod Mini next week

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Got it for around 50 bucks on eBay

sly warren
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Wow, it's slow in here today

royal sandal
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yeah

queen sigil
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i mean its usually not that popular

west hornet
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Tired

daring zenith
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@queen sigil bleu leo

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Are there any good clicky mech switches? Out of curiosity

queen sigil
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depends what you mean good

daring zenith
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Well, let's say tactility

queen sigil
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i dont like the feel of that much

daring zenith
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Hm

sly warren
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Jeez how'd you get Veteran?

timber ridge
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if I was at home I would be veteran b4 leo

daring zenith
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Too op

bitter minnow
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Anyone really good at network troubleshooting? I have one PC (decentt build) that is very slow in single thread speed tests (6-15 mbps) but good in multithread (80-100), like 10x slower than a much older laptop right next to it on the same wifi. Downloads are fast but games are like unplayable.

Have tried: New network card, Different DNS, Windows reinstall, Different router, Wired and Wifi, bunch of other common fixes recommended.

queen sigil
sly warren
tight pulsar
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china style are harder to find but theres some clickies

timber ridge
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box switches got thick clicks

queen sigil
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ithey tactile but they still dont feel good

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imo

bitter minnow
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how do you guys post images in ehre

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here

sly warren
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Be a higher rank

bitter minnow
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Ah okay, well replying to your Q I have an i7, 16g ram, 1070, SSD, new ax200 intel wifi card, google nest router

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single thread speed test is slower on this comp (1-10 mbps) than a 10 year old laptop I dusted off which has single and multi thread speeds identical (100+ mbps) , located in the same spot receiving same signal

gloomy berry
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Wait

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what do you mean by single thread vs multi thread speeds? Those are independent of networking and aren't rate in MB/s. What exact tests are you using?

bitter minnow
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Google Speed test, Mlab speed test, Ookla Speed test

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Google is fixed on single thread test but ookla has option to change between

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maybe I should say single vs multi connection

gloomy berry
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yes

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Threads typically refer to CPU cores

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WHich is why I was asking

bitter minnow
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but when ive googled it its been said interchangeably

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apparently when youre making multiple connections its using multiple cores to do it?

gloomy berry
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It shouldn't be

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This is Wifi, yes?

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Connected to the same access point on the same band, IE 2.4 or 5 ghz

bitter minnow
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5ghz and yeah

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had similar issue when I connected it wired

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way slower on single connect tests than even other devices on wifi

gloomy berry
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have you installed the INtel drivers for that card or just the generic Windows drivers?

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And do you have an external antenna hooked up?

bitter minnow
#

yeah updated drivers, had same issue on old card too, and yeah I do

swift lantern
#

would a run of the mill 4k monitor still be a good grab for media stuff

#

I have um, a lot of 4k content actually

gloomy berry
bitter minnow
#

its in a desktop, and yeah

#

but happened on old built in card too even in wired format as well as a USB one I tried

gloomy berry
#

SO this has happened on 3 different WiFi devices??

bitter minnow
#

yeah

swift lantern
#

hmm... or should I upgrade to 240hz instead chad

tight pulsar
#

i gave u image perms so you can post pictures since ur probably not gonna do anything bad

gloomy berry
#

It seems like there is something installed throttling the internet connection then. Either motherboard or OS. Any ! in Device Manager?

bitter minnow
#

system build

gloomy berry
# bitter minnow yeah

It seems like there is something installed throttling the internet connection then. Either motherboard or OS. Any ! in Device Manager?

bitter minnow
#

No nothing, would windows throttle my connection if im on an unregistered version

gloomy berry
#

It shouldn't but I'm checking something in the manual

#

What do you mean by built in card? This board didn't come from the factory with WiFi from what I'm reading. Nor do the M.2 slots officially support WiFi cards.

#

This also has the Killer Nic. Do you have the software for that installed?

swift lantern
gloomy berry
#

If you have the Killer NIC suite installed, I'd uninstall that

bitter minnow
#

@gloomy berry yeah It didnt have built in wifi but i tried it through ethernet on the built in killer ethernet controller ( which is disabled now) and via a USB wifi card (edimax ac 1750)

gloomy berry
#

OHhh, did you have the Killer NIC software installed?

bitter minnow
#

im not sure

#

didnt do it manually atleast

gloomy berry
#

Might be leftover from an old install or the drivers

bitter minnow
#

hmmm okay thank you Im doing it now, think it could still affect it even if Im not using that device

#

?

gloomy berry
#

Yes, it's an overall network setting, not just for hte NIC

bitter minnow
#

Theres no KfeCoSvc folder =/

gloomy berry
#

Hmmmmm

gloomy berry
# bitter minnow Theres no KfeCoSvc folder =/

Have you downloaded any of the drivers from here or just let Windows install them all? Windows tends to use generic drivers, the ones from your manufacturer are best. https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Motherboard/GA-Z170X-Gaming-3-rev-10/support#support-dl

bitter minnow
#

its only offering the audio drivers

#

damn that killer nic thing seemed like the fix

gloomy berry
#

mmm, there are others

#

Scroll down, click the + next to Chipset, etc

bitter minnow
#

so update the LAN driver?

swift lantern
wanton burrow
#

let's hope for amd to include buffs on drivers

twilit socket
swift lantern
sly warren
#

No.

#

Tube amp bad.

swift lantern
#

I do not value your opinion

west hornet
#

Heap

#

cheap

swift lantern
#

if I don't like it can just return howbada

sly warren
#

It's too cheap to be good enough to justify buying it.

#

And Tube Amps are just stupid anyway.

#

Too much maintenance for not enough value.

swift lantern
sly warren
#

So... The mediocre tube amp, a power brick, a cable to plug it into the PC, and a big dingus adapter.

#

A Schiit Modi would probably sound better for the same price.

#

Whoops its an amp, so it'd be the Magni

little crater
sly warren
#

Yeah they are.

little crater
#

they sound poggers

sly warren
#

Too much work, not enough benefit.

little crater
#

not perfect

#

it's hardly that much work

#

you replace the tubes every 10k hours for 50 bucks

sly warren
#

Yeah, or you can have a normal amp that lasts basically forever for 99.99

little crater
#

booooooriiiing

sly warren
#

No, it works. And still looks cool.

west hornet
#

they look pretty

swift lantern
#

i'll get back to you

sly warren
#

If you want the tube amp look, just buy a Vaccum tube and glue it to the top of your amp.

west hornet
#

wall warts are also pretty

swift lantern
#

lived experience triumphs over all, and you know I will not hesistate to return if I don't like it

sly warren
#

Best of both worlds.

little crater
#

you've apparently never listened to a good tube amp before if you think it's all about how they look

sly warren
#

They color the sound, that's it.

swift lantern
#

@sly warren

sly warren
#

Typically a warm for.

little crater
#

EXACTLY

#

that's the point

#

goof

sly warren
#

You can just buy warm Headphones

little crater
#

that's what you're paying for

sly warren
#

Less money for a better solution

swift lantern
sly warren
#

If you want to color your sound,the best color you can get is from the Headphones themselves.

swift lantern
#

this guy is real fun at parties I bet

west hornet
#

some headphones do better with tube some with solid state

swift lantern
sly warren
#

I'm just saying that you are inevitably going to be throwing money down the drain, then returning it because you didn't like it, and then I get to say I told you so.

little crater
#

maybe for a 100 dollar tube amp

swift lantern
#

it won't be cuz I'm not taking your input

sly warren
#

Aight, have fun throwing 100 bucks in the blender.

swift lantern
#

free returns you twit

daring zenith
#

So anyways

west hornet
#

wow 100usd blender

swift lantern
little crater
#

bruh

west hornet
#

must be nice i pay 500 for blender

little crater
#

neat switch

sly warren
#

Old news, those have been out for awhile

#

Oh

#

Wait what?

daring zenith
#

It's the tiny switches

swift lantern
sly warren
#

Wow... Maybe Laptop keyboards won't be butt anymore.

#

I'd still prefer MX Low Profile over that though.

#

Can't make a clicky or tactile ultra low profile

daring zenith
#

How the heck did they get tactile into that

west hornet
#

linear gang

daring zenith
sly warren
#

Yeah... I'm gonna call BS.

daring zenith
#

Who knows

#

But if the tactility is smol that's going to be sad

sly warren
#

Oh, they even have a growing force requirement.

#

45g at actuation, 65g at tactile point

#

Ewww

tight pulsar
#

i still don’t get why its called an mx switch it isn’t

west hornet
#

membrane?

tight pulsar
#

an mx switch means it has the same design or at least the main components as the original cherry mx patent

#

and it most certainly doesn’t have the mx stem which is basically what makes something mx vs other type

west hornet
#

lol

#

marketing

sly warren
#

Yeah, it's just marketing.

rugged lion
#

anyone know stabs come with an nk65 ee
obv plate mount but like

low stream
#

I have two people I know they both want to buy gaming mice on of their budgets is around 25 the other around 35 what two mouses should I recommend to them

swift lantern
#

that's a short budget on my mind is just g203 I got mine for $20

gleaming pond
swift lantern
#

wow even cheaper

gleaming pond
#

their budgets are quite tiny but one of them wanted a redragon m602 and the other wanted a deathadder mini on a deal for 25

sly warren
#

The Redragon is probably spin out city

#

At that price G203 is the best option.

bitter minnow
#

Anyone good with Network / Connection issues? I have one system (i7, ssd, 16gig, 1070, intel 200 AX wifi card)

That persistently has internet speeds 5-10x lower than my laptop which is 7 years older running speed test on Wifi in same location. (100+mbps on laptop vs 1-10 on Desktop, unusable for most things)

Problem persists when wired through ethernet - Persists in safe mode

Things Ive tried: fresh windows install, ISP update router firmware, new modem with access point, new wifi card, update windows, update bios, dns flash, switch dns, eliminate windows buffer, winsock, ipv4/6 reset

And every other fix I could find on dozens of pages of google search results and youtube videos. Starting to feels bad man =/

gleaming pond
swift lantern
#

they're $27.33 on amazon atm

sly warren
#

Close enough.

swift lantern
sly warren
#

Same mouse.

#

102 was used in different markets

#

G203 is the US name

#

I think Light Sync is technically the newest.

gleaming pond
gleaming pond
subtle pewter
#

Anybody here know where I can look in order to find some replacement / upgrade earpads for my headphones?

swift lantern
#

depends entirely on which headphones

daring zenith
#

what headphones tho

#

prob dekoni lel

subtle pewter
#

Dr 770Pros

#

*DT

sly warren
#

Contact beyer

subtle pewter
#

I'm not looking to replace them with the same ones

#

Sorry, I should have said that

sly warren
#

Replacement pads from other companies will fork with the sound

#

They will sound worse than they already do.

#

Which is bad.

subtle pewter
#

They don't sound bad, but ok lol

#

I could imagine different pads would make them sound different

#

I was just wondering if I could get some bigger pads for them

#

I wear them for a verryyyy long time every day, and I don't like how they crush my ears after many hours of use

daring zenith
#

dekoni pads expensive soooo

sly warren
#

Bigger pads will REALLY screw with the sound.

#

And make already bad sounding headphones sound even worse.

#

If you want all day comfort and amazing sound, buy some Porta Pros

daring zenith
#

lol

subtle pewter
#

I'm not too concerned with that. I can switch them back to their basic pads when I need to do more critical listening

daring zenith
#

prob need yaxi pads tho for porta pros

sly warren
#

Yaxi pads are basically part of the price of Porta Pros

subtle pewter
#

Porta pros? Lol

sly warren
#

Porta Pros are some of the best sounding sub 100 dollar Headphones.

daring zenith
subtle pewter
#

I know. I don't do on ear

#

@daring zenith ouchies

#

Dang

sly warren
#

You just can't believe that 30 dollar porta pros are that good

daring zenith
#

smh

daring zenith
sly warren
#

Originally when I got them? Yeah

#

And then I got Porta Pros, and they were BETTER

#

And they were MORE comfortable.

daring zenith
#

and porta pros just seems like a weird spot imo

#

might as well do like ksc75i or whatever it's called

subtle pewter
#

I would like a little more audio accuracy than the porta pros offer, and I don't like on ear at all

sly warren
#

Porta Pros are the most comfortable pair of headphones I've ever worn.

#

Uhh they are stupid accurate

subtle pewter
#

No, they aren't lol

sly warren
#

Yes they are.

#

And how do you not like on ear?

subtle pewter
#

Lmfao

daring zenith
#

well

subtle pewter
#

Their treble is a mountain range

sly warren
#

Rtings is bad.

daring zenith
#

most audio reviewers use different whateveritscalled

#

normal curve?

sly warren
#

Target Curve

daring zenith
#

close nuff

sly warren
#

Rtings made their own dumb curve that sucks.

#

Harman Target and Diffuse Field target are the 2 main standards.

#

Harman being a bit more Bass leaning, DF leaning more Treble

subtle pewter
#

And where would you go for those types of ratings?

sly warren
#

Crinacle

#

I live (for the most part) by that motto

daring zenith
#

found a nice image of dif curves

#

rtings target curve is in there too

#

purple

sly warren
#

Man, that's disgusting

daring zenith
#

it's all about what people believe to be accurate tbh

#

raw isn't the most useful

subtle pewter
#

Fair

swift lantern
#

and curve don't tell you jack about certain other things

subtle pewter
#

Very true

daring zenith
#

yes

#

a lot about what you like and what you don't like

#

so you could love one reviewer and hate another because one aligns with your beliefs

subtle pewter
#

Very fair for sure

#

I love the sound of my headphones

#

I didn't know there were different curves. Thanks for that

sly warren
#

The most common ones are Harman and DF.

daring zenith
#

dif reviewers can have their own curves

#

and there's a whole slew of DF standards too

subtle pewter
#

Very weird and interesting

#

Never knew that

royal sandal
west hornet
#

pads can change the sound a lot, idk much pads except the yaxis i use on portas xD and the portas are pretty comfy surprisingly. with stock pads on the light setting sometimes id forget i had them on

#

some on ears on the other hand just crush your skull

royal sandal
#

this one too

timber ridge
#

and graphs usually dont do budget planars justice

wise token
#

okay i improved that sound graph

#

its got kinda weak bass but the mids and the whatever you call the high parts are really good

timber ridge
#

wha is that graph for

sly warren
#

The original graph is a list of target curves for ideal headphones.

#

Whatever the hell that is on top of it is an abomination

#

The Red line and Orange line are the most common Target Curves

little crater
#

that thick green line looks like a keyswitch force graph lol

#

just pasted right on top lol

sly warren
#

Yeah.

#

And, for the most part anything above 10K on a Headphone Frequency Chart is noise humans can't hear.

#

So, it being wavy and crap has no bearing

little crater
#

they got a bunch of bangers

royal sandal
#

mhmm

#

mother mother is pretty poggers

little crater
#

i think my fav song is ghosting

royal sandal
#

I've only listened to this one and another one, courtesy of @dire tartan

#

thanks btw, rom

#

one of my new favorite groups

little crater
#

verbatim good

#

but overrated imo

#

lol

#

ghosting best mother mother song tho

#

that song do make me chuckle

royal sandal
#

what a coincidence

#

I raise chickens as well

#

The Undertale and FNaF communities cry

little crater
#

their latest album is prolly the best

#

it has the most songs that are worthy of my liked songs playlist

#

ok so basically

#

all you need to know

west hornet
#

ever heard a cliffhanger in song? xD

little crater
#

it do be the introduction

#

whats number 2

#

cuz its gonna pick right up from there

west hornet
little crater
#

wack

timber ridge
sly warren
#

Harmon Target, Diffuse Field Target, and a few other misc targets.

#

Harmon Target tends to be a bit on the bass side.

timber ridge
#

ye

sly warren
#

Diffuse Field (usually shortened to DF) target tends to be Treble oriented.

#

Crinacle's target tries to be in-between the two

timber ridge
#

being a non purist and a bass head i favor the harmon curve more

sly warren
#

I haven't listened to anything close to DF Neutral to see if I like it.

timber ridge
#

im not treble sensitive but it can be a bit too much in certain songs/genres

#

wouldnt 560s be close to df neutral

daring zenith
#

smh df should mean revo d.f.

sly warren
#

Hmm... I'm honestly not sure. They seem to fit IEF Neutral (Crinacle Neutral) very well.

#

The Litmus Test is, if you like Sundaras, you'd like HD560S's

little crater
#

i sold my 560s, v neutral

sly warren
#

I mean, that's their job.

little crater
#

they sound

#

booooring

#

but v good

timber ridge
#

sundaras and hd560s are like polar opposites tho

sly warren
#

You haven't listened to K612 Pros apparently Sassy

#

K612 Pros are the definition of dead neutral tuning.

little crater
#

lol

timber ridge
#

i dont thnk ima ever own 560s

#

unless i get them gifted, even then id prob resell

sly warren
#

I will eventually.

little crater
#

they are super comfortable and smol

#

the cable sux tho

sly warren
#

Just to have something full neutral

#

As a point of reference.

timber ridge
#

only "neutral" thing i can see myself picking up are starfields

little crater
#

ive never been a fan of iems

#

also i dont care about looking stupid with headphones on in public

#

so ive never bothered to stop using the same pair of bluetooth headphones ive been using for years lol

sly warren
#

I'm honestly getting more and more used to my IEMs

#

I might buy Starfields before Sundaras.

#

Or I may just stick on the IEM train.

#

After Starfields there's the Drop x JVC, then Blessing 2 Dusk

timber ridge
#

i love iems lmao

#

but i kinda hit endgame for my case

sly warren
#

What did you end up with?

timber ridge
#

blessing 2s are nice tho

#

and i have oh10s

#

no where near neutral lmao

#

but all my iems are for "fun"

sly warren
#

Oh, so super V-Shape

#

Oh wait

#

I forgot about Tin T2 Plus

#

I need to get me a pair of those before going to Starfields.

#

My KZ ZS10 Pros are, unironically more comfortable to wear than my ER2SEs

timber ridge
#

the graphs for oh10s dont really do it justice

sly warren
#

Hmm... I'm also looking at these SeeAudio Yume's

timber ridge
#

looking at it youd prob think its bloated with 0 mids but its actually pretty decent

#

i was looking into yumes but they have no bass

sly warren
#

Uhh

#

They follow Harman Target

timber ridge
#

i dont need too much, but audiophiles were saying it was lacking it

sly warren
#

Hell

#

Crinacle says they are Neutral with Bass Boost

timber ridge
#

like it was a common thing with a bunch of reviews

sly warren
#

Look at that BASS

timber ridge
#

i read a few reviews on a website forgot which

sly warren
#

Sounds like other reviewers have broke ears.

timber ridge
#

im not sure, graphs can be a hit or miss

#

and it was common thru out like all the reviews

#

and crinnacle's definition is probably like super super neutral

sly warren
#

Re-listening to my ER2SE's right now.

#

Yeah... they are DF-Neutral.

#

My next IEMs need a little more bass.

#

But, not quite V-Shape

timber ridge
#

fh3s are a nice balance imo

#

they have decent mids for what they are

sly warren
#

FH3?

timber ridge
#

yup

#

129

#

theyre basically refined oh10s

#

kinda toned down

#

but still v shape

sly warren
#

I think step 1 is getting a pair of Tin T2 Plus

timber ridge
#

I'm happy with what I got rn

wanton burrow
#

ah yes

timid wind
#

ayo is the glorius model O wireless good ima get it

#

i main minecraft thats why

timber ridge
timid wind
#

ok

timber ridge
#

whats ur grip type tho?

timid wind
#

uhhh

#

i dont realy know

#

i usually use claw

#

but i can palm

#

if i need to

timber ridge
#

o then you should be fine

timid wind
#

ok

timber ridge
#

model o is claw/ftip grip

timid wind
#

nice

timber ridge
#

yup

timid wind
#

i might get the grip tape

#

for drag clicking

timber ridge
#

im not sure how it performs for drag clicking

timid wind
#

should i get the wireless cuz it can be wired or wireless

timber ridge
#

but ik roccat is popular with mc gamers

timid wind
#

ok

timber ridge
#

and if you can afford the wireless version, id go for it

timid wind
#

ok

#

yea i have a hundred dollars on my budget

#

so e

timber ridge
#

i think the roccat kain ultra and kain 100 or some is really popular for drag clickers

timid wind
#

ok

timber ridge
#

but one is ergo shape so its more for palm

timid wind
#

i was gonna ger the model d

#

but

timber ridge
#

and the other should be fine with claw tho

timid wind
#

ok

#

im getting model o

#

cuz my brother is left handed

#

i was gonna get the model D

#

its more ergo

timber ridge
#

ye def more ergo

swift lantern
#

Didn't realize just how bad the gpu shortages are

timber ridge
#

its 10x worse if youre looking for a 3080

swift lantern
#

6700xt going for 1100 on ebay

#

Almost funny if it wasn't sad

timber ridge
#

my 3080 search came to an end when i got a ps5

swift lantern
#

G4u I guess

timber ridge
#

ye, i was gonna take whichever i could secure first

#

since i dont wanna spend money for both

swift lantern
#

I was looking at monitors but I realized I should probably have a better card and since that's not doable at the moment I guess I'm just gonna have to play the long game

timber ridge
#

what card do you have rn

swift lantern
#

me @ scalpers

split snow
#

g703 wireless coming today poggers

queen sigil
daring zenith
#

@queen sigil I think I'm going to get some new switches, POSSIBLY switch opener and lube, I believe my options would be either like T1 or feker panda, what do you think? I prefer not having to lube them, tactile bois. 90 switches, soft budget of 60$ for em.

queen sigil
#

i like choosing switches depending on what board im getting

#

but for feker pandas ur gonna need to lube and spring swap them if you want them to feel good

#

idk about t1s

little crater
#

just build your own keyswitches smh

#

ez

queen sigil
#

frankenswitches

daring zenith
#

Hm

#

@queen sigil any other switches you can think of?

queen sigil
#

go ask nachos

daring zenith
#

okai

#

@tight pulsar any nice tactile switches that won't need lubing for around 60$ for 90?

queen sigil
#

lube is good

#

smh

#

mr lazy

daring zenith
#

It's annoying tho

#

extra monies too

queen sigil
#

bruh its like 15$

#

for the things to lube like 300 switches

daring zenith
#

switch opener

#

and lube

#

and a brush

tight pulsar
#

what kind of tactile

queen sigil
#

nachos he basic man

daring zenith
#

I am basic man

#

any tactile

#

good bump

#

don't need to be silent

tight pulsar
#

idk how much kiwis are but those, gazzews stuff, durock medium tactiles, pewters, t1s

queen sigil
#

nachos whats the housing of tangies made of

#

like its the stem thats uhmwpe rite

tight pulsar
#

uh i think theres a tiny bit of uhmwpe in the housings

#

not a ton tho

queen sigil
#

what other uhmwpe switches are there

#

besides tangies and OA

daring zenith
#

hm

queen sigil
#

is there uhmwpe tactiles

tight pulsar
#

kiwis

queen sigil
#

wait kiwiws are uhmwpe

tight pulsar
#

same housing as tangies

queen sigil
#

i thought it was just pom or something

tight pulsar
#

dragonfruits might also be but they don't say

daring zenith
#

@tight pulsar gazzews as in boba u4?

tight pulsar
#

yeah and he has a different silent stem also

daring zenith
#

hm

tight pulsar
#

if u can't decide just get a few of different ones and try them

daring zenith
#

I'm just making sure I know my choices first, rn, boba u4, kiwi, and t1? (Tangerines look out of stock)

#

I'm probably going to take out boba u4 since I like sound

tight pulsar
#

uh tangies are linears pal

#

we were just talking about switches with umhwpe or whatever housings

daring zenith
#

o

#

oops

calm cobalt
#

whats the best open back headphones under 100$? usd

daring zenith
#

For under 100$, it might be ur40+meizu dong time

#

@tight pulsar after looking around, I believe I'll get T1s, and I think I might actually try lubing them, would this be time for like 3203 since tactile?

tight pulsar
#

yeah 3203 is thinner

daring zenith
#

hm

#

@tight pulsar how should I go about acquiring a switch opener+lube+brush? Anything specific about them?

tight pulsar
#

uh just use a small paintbrush

karmic horizon
#

headphone recommendations?

daring zenith
#

hm I was going to see getting it all from divinikeys, but switch opener being 25$ kinda sad, and 3203 out of stock, @tight pulsar what about 205g0 for tactiles, or no?

daring zenith
tight pulsar
#

sure just use a light coat of it

karmic horizon
#

no dac amp, around $150 ish, no preference

daring zenith
#

anywhere that has nice brush+switch opener+lube+MAYBE lube station and T1s?

#

You have no dac/amp? hm

#

@karmic horizon need mic or no

tight pulsar
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idk about somewhere that has them all in stock but you could just grab the thingiverse files and 3d print a switch opener

daring zenith
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i no 3d printer

karmic horizon
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i have no dac/amp

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no mic

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just headphones

daring zenith
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@tight pulsar Do you think a lube station is useful? And also, do you think I could get away with a bit of 3203 for the springs or no?

tight pulsar
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uh useful sure but you don't need one, don't you have 205g0 or something thicker already for stabs?

little crater
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or laptop

daring zenith
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I don't have anything

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but shouldn't pre-lubed stabs on the Keychron keeb be fine for now>

karmic horizon
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yea, im a pleb

little crater
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also, what mic you got? is it decent or would you rather just get a headset with a mic

karmic horizon
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to be honest i dont even know what a dac is

little crater
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your motherboard has one already

karmic horizon
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blue yeti

little crater
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good nuff

daring zenith
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tbh I kinda want to say something like ur40+zen dac for upgradability xD

karmic horizon
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watt?

daring zenith
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@little crater you know any good combo you could do for <150$ open back?

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or maybe something that doesn't really need a dac amp to sound good

little crater
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sennheiser has gaming headsets that come with usb dac

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150 for a headphone is too much for onboard audio tho

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cuz they all high impediance

daring zenith
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sennheiser does?

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pc37x doesn't come with anything

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or game one

little crater
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GSP 350

daring zenith
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hm

little crater
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363d

karmic horizon
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honestly what would you recommend i buy?

little crater
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are these just for gaming?

daring zenith
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It's a weird spot price wise

karmic horizon
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i just said $150 but i really dont have a budget

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yea just gaming

daring zenith
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I mean, if you could stretch it, you could go for a setup like vintage (Zen dac+K371) xD

little crater
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i mean, if you arent listening to music

tight pulsar
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okay he1 it is

little crater
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on board audio good nuff

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so get a nice headset to go with that

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also, are you worried about sound leaking out or in?

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like, are you in a noisy environment

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or do you not want people to hear your headphones around you

karmic horizon
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just kids lol