peripherals-and-displays

[swift lantern]

yeah it's some weird market stuff but they're like, the exact same internals

so.. up to you on that one

i'm ngl part of me wants liquid spark dac just for the stack

but the smart brain part of me is like no that's stupid get a different one

YO WAIT

[timber ridge]

are you sure its not a d10

and not a e30

[swift lantern]

ad10 is a d10

the 30 is a 30

they copied the naming

[timber ridge]

o

[swift lantern]

YO WAIT THOUGH

[timber ridge]

huh

[swift lantern]

it liquid spark dac time

[timber ridge]

you might aswell for the stack

[swift lantern]

now if I could just find one used somewhere cuz I'm a cheapskate

[timber ridge]

its not too popular

so gl finding one

[swift lantern]

oh it requires powere

wack

not a deal breaker but kinda wack

[timber ridge]

liquid spark dac?

[swift lantern]

yeah

[timber ridge]

e30 needs one too

[swift lantern]

par for the course then

[gloomy berry]

I am lacking faith my Zen Dac will be here tomorrow due to weather

I am sad

[swift lantern]

[vernal plinth]

Yeah the weather sometimes

My freaking SSD has been in the frozen hellscape that is Wisconsin for so long

I mean it might be -2 here but at least no storms

[timber ridge]

@queen sigil any reason why you got the msi b550 board in specific

[queen sigil]

price

[timber ridge]

ic

[queen sigil]

but bios flashing was also pretty easy

[timber ridge]

i was gonna get it

but got aorus instead

[queen sigil]

[timber ridge]

it was cheaper

itx builds lowkey cursed

more expensive everything

[tight pulsar]

well yeah

[timber ridge]

props to coolermaster and a few other companies for making it a bit cheaper

2 of some of the best cases are p budget

[timber ridge]

this is p nice https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110407.0

[tight pulsar]

grr why is shipping a keyboard so expensive

[rugged lion]

How is jtk’s abs?

Haven’t heard much about them

[timber ridge]

afaik its pretty good

but sometimes legends can be not as sharp as gmk but still good for the most part

[wise token]

jtk is nice

considering price and all the issues with gmk recently id rather take them

[timber ridge]

i regret not picking up jtk night sakura

might go after jtk tanjun

[tight pulsar]

malaysia unikorn so nice https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744050155497586700/810956831757172826/IMG_20210215_191232__01.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/744050155497586700/810956792108023808/IMG_20210215_162619__01__01.jpg

[timber ridge]

standard 60% only?

[tight pulsar]

probably

[timber ridge]

wkl op

[swift lantern]

ok I'm trying to contact seller this is ridiculous

[wise token]

what seller?

[queen sigil]

why is there a nachos2

[tight pulsar]

cause

[daring zenith]

More nachos are better

[swift lantern]

👀

ends feb 27th

[tight pulsar]

are they seafoam green tho

[tropic depot]

arctis 5 or the hyperx cloudfires?

wondering what i should buy

[tight pulsar]

koala so nice

[timber ridge]

might get a keycap set with a similar color scheme

debating

[timber ridge]

and do you need a gamer headset

[tropic depot]

yes

[queen sigil]

Gamer headset

[timber ridge]

whats your budget

@tropic depot

[tropic depot]

70 dollars

[timber ridge]

ur40 and mod mic or legit any gamer headset

theyll sound pretty much all the same

jus get whatever is more comfy for u

[tropic depot]

mic quality isnt the problem usually they ar decenht

i want like good 3d audio

[timber ridge]

3d audio is a gimmick

and bad in most cases

chances are youll get better imaging and soundstage from a actual pair of headphones

[little crater]

[calm cobalt]

Any peripherals or accessories that’ll help me with the front connectors sliding out? It’s driving me insane.

[little crater]

what front connectors? you mean the front 3.5mm audio jacks?

[calm cobalt]

The HHD, Power, Switch, led+ and -, and reset.

[little crater]

oh those

not really, some motherboards come with a thing you can plug them all into

but other than that your best bet would be zipties and velcro

[calm cobalt]

Thanks I’ll try looking

[fiery marsh]

Are all XLR cables the same? If I buy a $7 one, is it any different than a $20 one? I am buying an XLR cable for Shure SM7B.

[timber ridge]

some ppl say it does affect it some dont

but considering youre spendn big bucks on a sm7b, i think it wouldnt hurt to splurge a bit on the cable

[fiery marsh]

what is a good brand? @timber ridge

[timber ridge]

i dont know in particular but im p sure aslong as you dont go super cheap youd get a decent cable

[queen sigil]

A

[wise token]

bruh import taxes are lame

at full value this board is like $45 just in import stuff for singapore and then another like 45 for actually shipping

[wise token]

okay this is why we should have actually competent people design stuff https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111230.0

[west hornet]

Some cables have better connectors and shielding than others. Mogami gold are some of the best xlr cables but they come at a price, I would only consider investing a lot in a cable if i had very expensive mics

[west hornet]

Here is a good explanation https://youtu.be/A0TlrpVCRgw

[timber ridge]

bet nk is gonna be a vendor prob

[calm cobalt]

Does a Q Connector work for other motherboards?

^ping me if you have an answer, I’m goin to sleep.

[arctic juniper]

anyone have good recommendations for webcams/cameras for streaming

[cedar compass]

Logitech's C922 Pro Stream @arctic juniper

Most places sell it for like $100, but if you or a friend has a Sam's Club membership, you can buy it for like $65-$70

[placid dune]

You can just use your phone tho

Save yourself some money

I doubt people will really care if your face is 720p instead of 1080p or something

I use droidcam

[tight pulsar]

lmao

[gloomy berry]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-baby-goal-funny-face-gif-13347383

My DAC shows delivery today

[royal sandal]

Logitech Brio

[west hornet]

Lol

[swift lantern]

I think I'm gonna go ahead and get the liquid spark new on monoprice just so I can return it if it sucks

Also I think I'm gonna return the Meizu dongle

[gloomy berry]

Is it bad I'm refreshing USPS every 5 minutes to see when my DAC is here?

[daring zenith]

it's bad

[tight pulsar]

no its not

[arctic juniper]

oh nice, i actually know someone with a sams membership. is it something id have to order online or would they normally have some in store?

[cedar compass]

You can do either or

[timber ridge]

vintage ascending today ?

[gloomy berry]

YES

[daring zenith]

what dac

zen dac?

[gloomy berry]

Ye

[timber ridge]

Im expecting some packages today also but it seems like everything but my case is making it

not epic

[tight pulsar]

i have something coming from dhl and i have absolutely no clue what it is lol

[stoic solar]

its me

im gonna pop out of the box and headbutt you directly in the mouth

[gloomy berry]

I'm gonna make my ears bleed

[gloomy berry]

You and me might need to talk later 😉

[stoic solar]

[gloomy berry]

Might take you up on your offer

That's all lol

[royal sandal]

Oi lance

I hear you know about amps and headphones

I want a good amp and pair of (audiophile) headphones

Preferably within $300

[timber ridge]

honestly the go to combo for budget rn is zen dac and akg k371 but there is a few dif options you can mess with

[royal sandal]

That’s budget?

Damn

[timber ridge]

considering you like edm, i think youd want a zen dac for the bass boost

it has a more 'fun sound"

[royal sandal]

This man knows me

[timber ridge]

but you can swap the k371 for k361

[royal sandal]

Can you send links pls

[timber ridge]

theres a lot of headphone options

and ill link the dac then we can go over headphones

https://www.amazon.com/iFi-Zen-DAC-Converter-Unbalanced/dp/B07YZK5MDS/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=zen+dac&qid=1613502945&sr=8-3

that would probably elevate your current gear

and do you like wearing earbuds by any chance?

[royal sandal]

Earbuds?

Only wireless ones in car rides

[timber ridge]

in ear monitors

oh okay

for headphones, ill list a few from most expensive to cheapest

k371,k361, shp9500(treble might be a bit much but super comfy), CAL, UR40s, Porta pros

stuff at the cheaper end of the list dont really need the dac/amp but its nice to have anyway to future proof and get the most out of your gear

[royal sandal]

Huh

So what’s so special about all these?

[timber ridge]

they stand out the most out of the budget picks

and they all kinda hit a different budget

[royal sandal]

K371 Bluetooth or wired, assuming I get the DAC

[timber ridge]

if you want something with bass, go with k361/k371 or CAL

wired

[royal sandal]

Ok

$30 off

That’s nice

[timber ridge]

i didnt really look too much into the bt version

and the k361 is almost identical as the k371

[royal sandal]

Almost?

[timber ridge]

they are just tuned a bit differently

[royal sandal]

Ah

[timber ridge]

k371 is tuned to have a little more oomph in the low end

[royal sandal]

I see

[timber ridge]

CAL are really good headphones for around 40 bucks sound wise but build quality is not so good

[royal sandal]

And these also are going to have all the standard things that are marketed in gaming headphones, like 7.1 surround?

I’m assuming because they are obviously of much higher quality than your average Logi or Razer headphones

[timber ridge]

7.1 surround is 99% of the time a gimmick in gaming headsets

its jus an eq that changes the sound signature

[royal sandal]

That’s what I’ve heard

[timber ridge]

actual headphones have better soundstage and imaging which helps with positional audio

[royal sandal]

That’s also what I’ve heard

[timber ridge]

You can give almost any headphones "surround sound" by buying a dongle from hyperx or razer

[west hornet]

I like to say 99% gimmick because there are very very very few headphones that have decent post processing that make it worth it, first that comes to my head it Airpods Max, you can download those standard virtual surround sound drivers on any stereo headphones (ex: dolby atmos)

[timber ridge]

^

[royal sandal]

Razer Hammerheads?

[timber ridge]

and surround sound from razer wont sound the same from hyperx or corsair

bc its not a real thing, its jus something they implemented afterwards with eq

[west hornet]

the AirPods Max processing for surround or eq are the only headphone processing that peak my attention, nearly all others can be matched or beaten with atmos on stereo headphones

[timber ridge]

although, sometimes, the fake surround sound helps a bit, but most of the time it doesnt and its most definitely not something to seek for in gaming headsets

[royal sandal]

Don’t look at me, I just bought some Krakens a year ago so I could have sound in my games

[west hornet]

lol

[timber ridge]

its fine, most of us started on gamer headsets

[royal sandal]

I do like my high quality audio

What exactly does the DAC do?

[timber ridge]

in like super basic terms

its basically like a filter that filters out your audio

so that you get a clean sound

[royal sandal]

Mmmm

Fun

I think a friend of mine had some Astro headphones that came with something like that

The headphones themselves sucked tho

So it made no difference

[timber ridge]

tragic lol

[daring zenith]

it makes things sound better

[timber ridge]

its important to have a dac and amp bc if you only get an amp and your onboard audio is trash, then youre jus amplifying trash

[royal sandal]

All I want to do right now is get that DAC, a pair of K371s, turn on some music by TheFatRat on Spotify, and chill for a few hours

[timber ridge]

thats what setup vintage got

[royal sandal]

So I’ve heard

[timber ridge]

except he ordered the wrong dac, but the correct one should be arriving today

hopefully

[royal sandal]

I saw that earlier while checking the channels

[daring zenith]

snow might delay it AGAIN xD

[royal sandal]

Rip

[timber ridge]

hes gonna turn into jp and have "____ days until zen dac" lol

[royal sandal]

No storms here rn tho, should be fine

And while I’m here

Mr1111

How about a KB to replace my Cynosa?

[daring zenith]

K E Y C H R O N

What budget?

[timber ridge]

oof

[royal sandal]

Idk

Let’s say $80

100% if you please

Not 60%

[timber ridge]

have you looked into 65% or 75%

[royal sandal]

No

Me want 100%

[timber ridge]

ooo

[royal sandal]

I like having all the buttons

[timber ridge]

i have a flow chart in pinned messages

[royal sandal]

Lemme see

One sec

[timber ridge]

if you have any more questions

just ask

[royal sandal]

Hotswap?

Is that for the caps?

[timber ridge]

the switches

[royal sandal]

Ah

Well I probably won’t need to switch out the switches

[timber ridge]

if you ever get bored of something, you can jus pop them out

[royal sandal]

Fun thing to be able to do

[timber ridge]

yea you wont unless u fall down the rabbit hole

[royal sandal]

Heh

The way I’m headin

I’ll be there a week after I get the KB

[timber ridge]

you can get a budget hotswap keyboard

[daring zenith]

bak

Keychron C2, if hotswap comes back in stock

[timber ridge]

keychron offers a k series and c series

basically the same but c series has no bt

[daring zenith]

@royal sandal do you care about wireless or no

[royal sandal]

It would be nice to have the option

Looking at the C2 now on Amazon

The Bluetooth one

The brown switches are OK?

[daring zenith]

is it the hotswap version?

[royal sandal]

Idk

One sec

Limited-time deal: Keychron K2 Wireless Bluetooth/USB Wired Gaming Mechanical Keyboard, Compact 84 Keys RGB LED Backlit N-Key Rollover Aluminum Frame for Mac Windows, Gateron Brown Switch, Version 2 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07YB32H52/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_dlT1_Q5CVHKBQN2Y1QYF4NE3P?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

[daring zenith]

ick annoying

[timber ridge]

84key is a fun form factor

basically has everything you need in a nice compact layout

[royal sandal]

I do want a num pad

For macros and such

[daring zenith]

lmao amazon is throwing a fit for me

[royal sandal]

Uhhhh

[stoic solar]

degenerate

[royal sandal]

Kalė

[daring zenith]

rip that's the non-hotswap version

[timber ridge]

was doing the same for me

[daring zenith]

also, that doesn't have the numpad

[royal sandal]

Keychron C2 Full Size Wired Mechanical Keyboard for Mac,Hot-swappable, Gateron Blue Switch, RGB Backlight, 104 Keys Double Shot ABS keycaps Gaming Keyboard for Windows, USB-C Type-C Braid Cable https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CNCXSP8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_0KJV3VVBFDYGMVVBW99X

?

[stoic solar]

13. For the sake of moderation both on our bots and Mods, as well as community conversation, this is an English only server.

[daring zenith]

Are you fine with 75%?

[timber ridge]

oh sara, lets say you do fall down the rabbit hole and need some nice budget keycaps

hk gaming keycaps

[fluid dew]

If I am getting slight background buzzing in game would a dac help?

[timber ridge]

get those

[royal sandal]

Stfu lili

[daring zenith]

C2 full size hotswap is good, get gateron browns to start off

browns are great

[royal sandal]

In stock March 29th

I’ll probs have money by then

[daring zenith]

yas

[timber ridge]

if its only in gaming im not sure if its your onboard dac thats an issue

if you hve usb c, id try a nice dongle before investing in a dac

[daring zenith]

Try music too

[royal sandal]

Music is the best part of having nice headphones

[timber ridge]

my iems cost more than my headphones lol

[daring zenith]

lol

[royal sandal]

IEM?

[timber ridge]

i was supposed to cop sundaras

in ear monitors

[royal sandal]

Oh

What are those

[stoic solar]

earbuds

[royal sandal]

The speakers?

[timber ridge]

just earbuds

[royal sandal]

Oh

Huh

[stoic solar]

people say iem to seem fancy

and to justify spending 200+ on earbuds

[royal sandal]

Like VR people say HMD instead of headset

[timber ridge]

my max budget on iems is 200

i cant justify spending more than that

headphones max budget is prob 500

[stoic solar]

i cant justify getting more than the headphones i have now

because audio is dumb

[royal sandal]

[timber ridge]

you and aev will never upgrade

unless your headphone crumbles to dust

[royal sandal]

That’s better

[daring zenith]

I think all audiophiles can agree audio is dummy expensive

[stoic solar]

hearing is the first thing to do

go

[royal sandal]

I’m not quite there yet

But yeah

It’s dummy expensive

[stoic solar]

audiophiles are also the most defensive abt their stuff

vs everyone else

cause they know how stupid it is

[royal sandal]

Hmmm

Sure

[timber ridge]

lili if youre talking about the ppl in here

[royal sandal]

sure

[timber ridge]

we legit have two of the biggest clowns in the community

[tight pulsar]

anybody spending a lot in a hobby gets defensive lol

[timber ridge]

in this server

[royal sandal]

Who?

[timber ridge]

like theyre banned from all the other audio servers n stuff

[royal sandal]

Why?

Who?

[daring zenith]

forknut?

[timber ridge]

dont wanna say names but i think one got the hammer

[daring zenith]

who's the other one

[timber ridge]

other is still present

[royal sandal]

What did they do?

[timber ridge]

basically jus force their opinions on others

and shill brands n stuff

[stoic solar]

audio ppl stupid 99% of the time

[tight pulsar]

does the other person name start with an s

[timber ridge]

yup

nachos prob knows

[tight pulsar]

is the last letter an e

[royal sandal]

Ping them

[stoic solar]

once u spend $350 on audio u hit diminishing returns

[timber ridge]

yep

[tight pulsar]

yep i know who ur talking about

[daring zenith]

isn't it like 300$ for a top tier headphone and then like 100/200$ for top tier amp/dac

maybe 200$

[sacred tangle]

Anyone have any good suggestions on a 2k monitor under like $150? Also gotta have a wall mount

[timber ridge]

hence why dino left

[daring zenith]

2k as in what

1440p?

[timber ridge]

he wasnt a fan of being around some ppl

[sacred tangle]

Yeah

[royal sandal]

#old-monitors-and-tv

[daring zenith]

nothing good under 150, some that might be passable though

[tight pulsar]

uh high end is like hifi stuff but for a 500 setup its probably at least 90% as good as the highest end stuff

[sacred tangle]

Oh my bad, didnt realize there was a display channel

[royal sandal]

Np

Happens all the time

[stoic solar]

but ye audio ppl are some of the dumbest ppl alive

[timber ridge]

agree

[stoic solar]

i have flac because if i archive something it might as well be close to the best copy

i have no desire to hang around audio ppl any more than i need to

[timber ridge]

i get a pass amrite

🙂

[stoic solar]

no

jk

[timber ridge]

pain

every hobby/community has its uh

dark side ig

[daring zenith]

price is the dark side

[timber ridge]

pc with the ppl flame everyone who doesnt build

keeb ppl who flame ppl who dont build

[royal sandal]

looks at Halo

[stoic solar]

most of the homelab community is nice

[daring zenith]

nah pc is very elitest

[stoic solar]

halo has its bad side

the whole side

[royal sandal]

False

We just love the games too much

We care too much

[timber ridge]

i use to play halo reach everyday

[daring zenith]

factorio community is nice

[royal sandal]

About the quality

No Mans Sky too

[stoic solar]

says u care abt quality

no halo game ever has been quality

[royal sandal]

Blatantly false

Anyways I gtg

See ya

[timber ridge]

halo has some godly osts

odst soundtrack was god tier

[stoic solar]

halo is a 1/10 franchise

[royal sandal]

Saving this one

[timber ridge]

ur just a hater

[stoic solar]

close

[timber ridge]

not epic

[stoic solar]

sara just takes the bait every time and its cute when she gets mad

[timber ridge]

someone tbag you?

lol

pushing her buttons

[stoic solar]

u know it

[gloomy berry]

pog

This DAC is absolutely pog

I'm getting chills listening to my stuff

[daring zenith]

good dac pog

[gloomy berry]

hmmmm

GTO filter firmware seems to lock it at 48khz though

Need to dig

[timber ridge]

hows the sub bass sounding?

[gloomy berry]

I like but everything is on hold now

Just found out wifes computer is completely borked and I have to try and save it

Apparently some program she downloaded came with a little "extra" and I can't even open File Explorer in safe mode nor run MBAM

BUT sub bass is definitely a HECK YEAH

[west hornet]

lol rip

[gloomy berry]

Yeah

gotta see if I can save her Windows install because of course she hasn't backed it up lately

-_-

[timber ridge]

gl

[gloomy berry]

gonna need it

can't open jack squat

even in Safe Mode

[ivory ivy]

What DAC did you get?

[timber ridge]

zen dac

[ivory ivy]

Nice

[gloomy berry]

Hmmm

With the GTO firmware, looks like I need Tidal with MQA to get any better than 48khz

Might go back to different firmware

[timber ridge]

are you changing sample rate thru windows sound properties or whatever?

[gloomy berry]

Nah, just realized I can use ASIO through Music Bee

And with the GTO firmware the light on the front doesn't change

and also that spotify is locked at 48 KHZ lol

Ok, I'm figuring this out

192khz now

Is MQA worth it with Tidal though?

regardless of Tidal, my ears are in love

[swift lantern]

don't mess with any of that stuff it's all nonsense

NONSENSE I SAY

[gloomy berry]

I figured

[timber ridge]

sample rate can get wonky

typically the stock sample rate that its set to is the best option

[gloomy berry]

I do like the GTO firmware over the factory installed though

It's more warm

Not so in your face and more like here, I'ma make this sound good

[timber ridge]

i jus updated my e30 and it sounds more fuller

it was a bit 2d sounding b4

[gloomy berry]

Yeah, like that

Also, the volume control on my KB still works

[timber ridge]

the gain knob on the zen dac is really nice

i miss it lol

[gloomy berry]

YES

I also have Power Match on

[timber ridge]

you can turn it with one finger with ease

[gloomy berry]

nice boost

[timber ridge]

im pretty sure power match is basically a high gain switch

[gloomy berry]

It is

It lowers gain for IEM's

so you don't overdrive them

[timber ridge]

when i had my zen dac i tried leaving xbass off to not spoil my ears lol

[gloomy berry]

NO

NO NO NO

[west hornet]

i get tidal occasionally on trials for hifi, doesn't have the biggest selection in music but the recommendations they have are nice. depends what you listen to I guess and also I'd recommend you read up on MQA first it's not what many people think it is https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/6n9nxf/good_people_of_rmusic_we_absolutely_need_to_talk/

[gloomy berry]

Must be on, damn, this sounds so good

[timber ridge]

its such a clean bass boost

[gloomy berry]

It is

NOt overdriven

[timber ridge]

yup

[gloomy berry]

nice and punchy

[timber ridge]

and it doesnt bleed into the mids too much

and tidal is eh

[gloomy berry]

It does not

[timber ridge]

i only use tidal for specific things

[west hornet]

If the song is on tidal i usually use it before I try to buy/download it locally. but at this point most of my music is local or streamed to my mobile devices from a media server, as i have around 2k flacs and growing

[gloomy berry]

Yeah, that's the idea for the house

Am thinking about setting up a NUC or Pi for the Zen Blue on my home theater so it can be used over the network'

[west hornet]

but if you use tidal hifi cd quality on phone make sure you don't have data caps lol

[tight pulsar]

keeb wall keeb wall

[gloomy berry]

I might avoid after reading Reddit

I hate crap like that

[timber ridge]

i dont have unlimited data so i domt touch tidal on mobile lol

but im planning on turning my old phone into a dap

[swift lantern]

wait you got the e30?

[gloomy berry]

Who

[west hornet]

essentially mqa is complicated, expensive and doesn't really make much sense. the reason for most of the hate is because it's proprietary and costs both the consumers and artists money

[gloomy berry]

yeah, I was wondering about audio quality

But the proprietary crap like that is annoying

[timber ridge]

me?

[west hornet]

idk the whole thing but mqa is a lossy format which apparently after decoding can result in lossless? listening to it myself I don't hear much difference, that being said going from mp3 lossy to a lossless file like flac or wav is pretty minimal to most peoples ears already

[swift lantern]

you

[timber ridge]

yea

[swift lantern]

[timber ridge]

e30/a50s

[swift lantern]

how much of a difference does it make

[west hornet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[timber ridge]

idk if my ears changed but

at first it was a bit too neutral for me

[gloomy berry]

It's not to mine though, I can hear MP3 vs Hig h Quality FLAC

[timber ridge]

but topping is known for that

[gloomy berry]

my wife hates me for stuff like that lol

[timber ridge]

but with the 5.0 update it sounds more fuller

[west hornet]

if you look around im pretty sure there are 1 or 3 month free trials for tidal and you can try yourself

[swift lantern]

update

?

[gloomy berry]

Oh, there are

But I'd rather not even do that if that's how they wanna be

[timber ridge]

firmware update

[swift lantern]

oh

well, how much of a difference is it vs onboard I guess

or if you used dongle before I forget

[timber ridge]

its like when a yt video is on 480p or some

and you switch it to 1080p

[swift lantern]

wait a minute

did you use the amp before at all

[timber ridge]

everything is a bit more clear/crisp and you hear more detail

not with my a50s

[swift lantern]

smdh

now try with dongle and see if any of that is the dac at all

[timber ridge]

but amp actually plays a huge factor

zen can and a50s sound completly dif

[swift lantern]

a50s is more neutral

bit cringe innit

[timber ridge]

i prefer the sound more actually

the zen can to me sounded a bit too busy

idk if im imagining it but it seems like after the update it sounds a bit more v shape

mids might be a bit more recessed but the low end is def a bit better with iems

[swift lantern]

I like, NEED you to try without a dac

/with dongle

and fr fr, have someone blind test it for you if you need to

not gonna drop $100+ if it don't do anything

btw the liquid spark is like an e10k with the bass switch on just by default

[timber ridge]

idk how im gonna compare

i cant connect my amp to my laptop without my dac

[swift lantern]

rca?

[timber ridge]

laptop

[swift lantern]

yeah but I mean why not

is the amp rca in?

[timber ridge]

i can disconnect my amp

and jus run laptop on board audio

gimme a sec

[swift lantern]

wanna test the dac not the amp

bro

[timber ridge]

huh

[swift lantern]

I want to know if the dac makes any difference or if it's overpriced rca cable box

[gloomy berry]

DAC over Realtek onboard is night and day

[timber ridge]

ye

kuzu idk how ima test it without amp

[swift lantern]

yeah but ANY dac vs expensive dac

oh my god dude

the amp is rca in

if you have a splitter cable you can plug literally anything into it

try the amp with e30 vs plugging it like, into your phone or something

[timber ridge]

thats the thing, no splitter

[swift lantern]

I will buy you one

I need to know

[timber ridge]

my new motherboard has no rca cable support too

so ggs

[swift lantern]

bro you are a dingleberry

[timber ridge]

saved me 20 bucks

[swift lantern]

see the thing is afaik

you should've just gotten a d10s

unless you particularly need the pre-amp capability

[timber ridge]

i didnt really look into the d10s too much

i was supposed to get an atom dac

but stuff kinda happened

[swift lantern]

I guess i wouldn't know as far as internals go

but d10s, e30, a10, and liquid spark dac all use the xu208 chip

[timber ridge]

i mean

if you get an e30, youre not gonna have to worry about ur dac for like forever

i dont plan to upgrade so i bought decent gear

one time purchase

[swift lantern]

well I'm saying

same goes for d10s

afaik the e30 is just a d10 with a pre amp tacked on

so like why spend 50% more for something you won't use

[timber ridge]

i was set on the e30/l30 stack for a while

b4 the tariff bumps so thats my reasoning ig

[swift lantern]

honestly I think this cements for me I should just get liquid spark dac

for the smexy stack

(you know they be lookin foine)

[timber ridge]

ihavent actually seen how they stack

kinda reminds me of the zen stack

[swift lantern]

this picture better

[timber ridge]

not a fan of the gap between the stack on the edge

[swift lantern]

???

your stack doesn't have little feeties?

[timber ridge]

I'm talking about how the shape of it becomes narrow towards the end

I think it looks good as a standalone unit but when stacked with that shape it's eh

[tight pulsar]

dunno it looks kinda funky both ways

[swift lantern]

idk I like them

I like their metal case that's for sure

thing is SOLID

[tight pulsar]

schiit looks the best imo

[swift lantern]

bleck

[timber ridge]

schiit and topping op

[swift lantern]

topping is the nicer of the two, to me

[tight pulsar]

hm https://drop.com/buy/our-most-requested-headphone-launching-2-18-21/talk?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/234764561511743488/811364925397532692/hd8xx.gif

[swift lantern]

Bruh

Terrible

[cedar compass]

I saw about that

Looks way too bulky for my comfort

[swift lantern]

I just mean, over $600 for dynamic drivers is a bit cringe

[fluid dew]

What is good webcam for under 50$?

[queen sigil]

pretty sure everything at that price is basivally be the same

[fluid dew]

Ok what price would we see some noticable improvements

[queen sigil]

depends what you're looking for

for just a cheap webcam for like online classes a cheap OEM webcam would work

for streaming or something I know for sure my c922 works and is known for being a goos optio

dont know how it is for its price but it works

[sweet elm]

Anyone got any recommendations for a boom arm with pop filter for a blue yeti? I know blue yeti does one themselves that’s $100 I’m pretty sure, but I don’t really want to spend that much on one, but if I have to for a good one then I will, thanks

[queen sigil]

any mic arm under like 40$ are all basically gonna be the same product

and possible others for more money

[timber ridge]

if they can price it nicely it might be op

[swift lantern]

[timber ridge]

imagine if its like 300ish

[tight pulsar]

people think if its the 8xx like 500-1000

[timber ridge]

yea probably

considering theyre based off the 800s

[last plinth]

yo does anyone have a durgod hades

[timber ridge]

i have one lol

[bright kayak]

are pudding key caps good?

I’ve seen bunch of people who use them

[jovial scaffold]

I use them and I like them

[bright kayak]

are they just for rgb to shine through?

[jovial scaffold]

Here's a bad picture if you wanna see them

[muted scroll]

I’ll be using my speed silvers soon... hope I like them.

[bright kayak]

ooo very epic

[jovial scaffold]

No, they have two layers of plastic for a different feel and they typically don't get as greasy looking

[bright kayak]

ah ok

tanks

[queen sigil]

They're lower quality keycaps than most but they have decent RGB

[queen sigil]

This is literally just PBT

Not keycap specific

at least when it comes to lower price keycaps

[timber ridge]

yikes

[bright kayak]

looking for keyboards is so difficult

[wise token]

paypal invoices are annoying

[queen sigil]

lol wdym

[timber ridge]

well to begin with, do you know what you want in a keyboard?

[small nimbus]

keys

[daring zenith]

Switches

[west hornet]

Hmm nachos 2

[calm cobalt]

how bad is alienware's stuff?

i looked through their periphs and it is disgustingly expensive

[daring zenith]

Stay away from them

[calm cobalt]

their prebuilds also suck

[daring zenith]

Wait, alienware peripherals? I was thinking Razer, but alienware?

[queen sigil]

they

are

bad

[daring zenith]

I know they made some monitors, need to see if they made any other peripherals

[queen sigil]

i mean their monitors are nice

[calm cobalt]

they're so expensive

nothing under $300

[daring zenith]

Depends on the specs

[calm cobalt]

25 inch

lemme see what else

[daring zenith]

What

Size means about nothing

[calm cobalt]

ik but im just saying what i see so far

[daring zenith]

1080p 240hz?

[calm cobalt]

240hz not sure about pixels yet

yea 1080

[daring zenith]

I know they target pretty high end, I know they are one of the few 360hz panel makers, and one of the very few with 1440p 240hz

[bright kayak]

wireless keyboard with red or brown switches

[queen sigil]

budget

and preferred size

[daring zenith]

Keychron, various different keyboards for different layouts >:D

[calm cobalt]

basically just keychron lmao

[queen sigil]

and depends what you mean by wireless

Like wireless for gaming or just normal use

[calm cobalt]

who gets wireless just for gaming what

[bright kayak]

I’m Canadian though

[calm cobalt]

hm

[daring zenith]

What's wrong with keychron in Canada

[calm cobalt]

get ur friend to ship it over the us border lmao

[bright kayak]

there isn’t keychron in Canada

[tight pulsar]

apexkeyboards is gonna stock f2s when they ship :p

[daring zenith]

Wdym

[queen sigil]

lol wdym

ajust order online

[calm cobalt]

tf u mean

canada

right down there

[queen sigil]

wait

they got keychron in stores

[bright kayak]

if we looking at Amazon

[calm cobalt]

mhm prolly

[queen sigil]

[bright kayak]

it’s 200

[calm cobalt]

why

A WHAAT

[queen sigil]

i hate it here

[west hornet]

Not that i know of

[daring zenith]

Bro

Buy directly from Keychron

[queen sigil]

lol yeah

[daring zenith]

https://www.keychron.com/

They ship to Canada

[bright kayak]

exchange rate though

out of my budget

[queen sigil]

lmao what's ur budget

[bright kayak]

like 60 buckaroos

[queen sigil]

then stop looking for a wireless keyboard

[bright kayak]

bruh 💀💀😩😩

[calm cobalt]

or secondhand

60 cad?

[tight pulsar]

juts get one of these theyre like 4¢

[bright kayak]

yuh

my dude I have that

[calm cobalt]

https://www.amazon.com/KM360-Professional-Cherry-Red-Black/dp/B07X4Y5RDC/ref=asc_df_B07X4Y5RDC/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=385191927323&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12540300806268437765&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016045&hvtargid=pla-827523831303&psc=1&tag=&ref=&adgrpid=82240853001&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvadid=385191927323&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=12540300806268437765&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9016045&hvtargid=pla-827523831303 yeet

kinda fugly but like

[gloomy berry]

Now that I'm done chasing down a BSOD, I can enjoy my Zen....complete bliss it is.

[daring zenith]

Vintage with k371 right?

[queen sigil]

dont those have like really heavy membranes

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[gloomy berry]

You Betcha!

It's farking amazeballs

My wife didn't understand why I did this

[tight pulsar]

is that a dac

[gloomy berry]

So I made her listen to the same song on her PC vs mine with a DAC

She gets it now

[calm cobalt]

you have no idea how much i hate those keyboards lmao they're membrane but they're still loud asf

[daring zenith]

How does it sound, sound stage wise, compared to any open backed headphones you've tried?

[gloomy berry]

I have not done open backed headphones

ONly closed backs

[daring zenith]

Aw

[gloomy berry]

Reason being

Wife shares office for school and stuff, I don't want sound bleed for her online classes

[daring zenith]

Only thing that I'm iffy about with going closed back is how nice and wide the sound stage is on these open backed headphones

Fair

[gloomy berry]

I mean

[tight pulsar]

just put on good music ez

[gloomy berry]

The sound stage in this setup sounds damned good

But I don't know what I'm missing with open backs either

All I know is that I'm picky with my sound

And with the GTO filter update for the DAC my ears are super happy

[swift lantern]

I think you'll probably prefer open backs after you try them

[gloomy berry]

I'm sure I would

I know the closed backs muddy the sound a tad

[daring zenith]

I'm still in that midfi hell, I need moar headphones to try and listen to

[gloomy berry]

Yeah, I hear that. my home theater is just about done now so, time to do the PC thing lol

[tight pulsar]

im in like belowfi

[daring zenith]

I prob am considered to be around there too

Ur40 and pc37x not exactly high end

[gloomy berry]

Neither are the AKG371

lol

[tight pulsar]

cloud2s lol

[daring zenith]

I would consider it to be high end, imo 200$ and above is the goodies

[gloomy berry]

I still have my Revolvers

[daring zenith]

(I know 6xx no liked, but 6xx and akg371+ goodies)

[gloomy berry]

They're decent plus I don't have a mic now lol

Need a MicMod or something

modMic?

Antlion Modmic, there we go

WHen you can listen to music and it gives you the chills, it's good

[daring zenith]

Good (or hell, even decent ones like mine) headphones +dac/amp give that real nice color to the music

@gloomy berry tbh with opened backed headphones sometimes the sounds I hear I mistake for actual things, so I might just turn around during music because of the vocals lel

[tight pulsar]

yall are hyping up audiophile headphones a lot these better be like the second best thing in my life when i buy them

[gloomy berry]

HA!!

[gloomy berry]

Honestly, it's not the phones so much as it is the DAC

[daring zenith]

No, first best thing, it's going to beat out keycaps

[gloomy berry]

My plugged her headphones into my Zen Dac and was amazed

*wife

[tight pulsar]

no keycaps looks pretty headphones dont :(

[daring zenith]

Lol

[tight pulsar]

also if my crp order gets delayed again im going to cry

[daring zenith]

But seriously, from cheap dac to less cheap dac, there was a huge difference to me (Meizu dong to Fulla)

[swift lantern]

oh really

[gloomy berry]

Where does the Zen fall with those?

Cuz i like this thing

[daring zenith]

Above fulla by a fair margin

[gloomy berry]

o

I thought it was lower end stuff

[daring zenith]

It's just a better dac from what I can tell, and since both are amp/dac, not much special about each amp

Zen dac is high quality mid end as far as I know, it's just a step down from like full Schiit stack (like magnus modius) afaik

[gloomy berry]

The Burr Brown chip supposed to be good

[daring zenith]

Anyways, I don't actually know much about audio stuff, I'm still trotting along making my own conclusions

[gloomy berry]

Ye

I know speakers

Home theater speakers

Not PC/portable stuff

[daring zenith]

Maybe I'll come to you about big boi speakers at some point :)

[gloomy berry]

Klipsch or Definitive Audio

If you've got deep pockets, McIntosh tube amps are second to none IMO. pricey as hell though but the sound they emit is stunning

[swift lantern]

they're stupid expensive, I'd pass

Like, STUPID expensive

[shy reef]

Where can i get a nice custom keyboard?

[timber ridge]

everyone here stuck in midfi hell

except skiptrace

hes in lofi hell

[swift lantern]

midfi heaven more like

[tight pulsar]

popcrn is just in hell

[timber ridge]

prebuilt or are you planning to build urself?

yea he is

[swift lantern]

if you have over $500 stuff it's just because at that point

[timber ridge]

i feel like anything over 500 isnt really worth

you hit enough of the checkmarks with headphones under 500

[swift lantern]

when it comes to planar headphones it sure seems that way

there's almost no inbetweens

[queen sigil]

make one

[swift lantern]

planar headphones be like $180, $350, $500... $1200

[tight pulsar]

yike

just paid a $62 shipping charge

[timber ridge]

oof

[swift lantern]

only inbetweens I can think of are the lcd series

[tight pulsar]

the buyer has to pay another 43ish lol

[timber ridge]

lcd are eh

[queen sigil]

what are you ordering

[timber ridge]

some ppl hate them

[queen sigil]

or is it just like global customs and stuff

[tight pulsar]

sold a board to somebody in sg with dhl express

[swift lantern]

I did hear the lcd-2 have the good SLAM though

which definitely interests me hmm yessir

[shy reef]

prebuilt lmao

not taking the time to build one

[tight pulsar]

also now i have like $900 on hold in paypal

[timber ridge]

you could get kbd to build you something but they dont lube your switches

[tight pulsar]

ah wait no its just over 1k

[timber ridge]

try finding a build service or something but its gonna cost you quite a lot

[queen sigil]

bruh so are you looking for a custom one or a prebuilt

I think my spacebar issues is just like slight warping

same with my backspace and enter

[tight pulsar]

just dont suck at doing stabs

[queen sigil]

wow nachos

[shy reef]

someones builds one and ships it lmao

[queen sigil]

and do you know anything about custom keyboards

[timber ridge]

its gonna cost like 500 minimum and a few months if not like a year

[shy reef]

500? sheesh i though they would be klike 250-500

[timber ridge]

scratch that, minimum a year

[queen sigil]

you got nothing on my custom commissioned keycult that i totally own

[tight pulsar]

uh you could build a good one for like sub 200 lol

[timber ridge]

build service isnt cheap

[tight pulsar]

ask alas to order some stuff from taobao and build it ez

[timber ridge]

he doesnt wanna build

[tight pulsar]

ya just ask alas to ez

[queen sigil]

send it to taeha ez

[timber ridge]

lol

200usd build to taeha

[queen sigil]

ship taeha a gk61 with mxbrowns

make him build it on stream

[tight pulsar]

or dr huru does cheap af builds and maxf might still do free builds

[timber ridge]

just ask taeha to make it like tfue keyborad ez

[queen sigil]

dr huru is a chad

actual 6head

[timber ridge]

wait list is prob forever tho

[tight pulsar]

hes a really nice guy

[swift lantern]

alright so I'm getting the $600 apparently, yeet

[shy reef]

This one I found on kbdfans that likes 250 if that was the one someone suggested

[swift lantern]

and I'm just gonna go with topping d10s

honestly just cuz screen ngl

[timber ridge]

is that the kit alone or a whole keyboard

and they dont lube, which is like one of the main reasons to go custom imo

[shy reef]

it says fully assembled mechanical keyboard with keycaps so im guessing, and the pictures are fully assembled keyboards

[queen sigil]

send the ling

link?

[shy reef]

ight one sec

want the link @timber ridge

[timber ridge]

link it

[tight pulsar]

everybody say bye to him hes travelling far

[queen sigil]

https://kbdfans.com/collections/65-fully-assembled/products/fully-assembled-tofu65-acrylic-mechanical-keyboard-with-keycaps

[queen sigil]

bye

where is it getting shipped

lol

[tight pulsar]

singapore

[queen sigil]

damn

[tight pulsar]

very far

[calm cobalt]

christ that is the most expensive 60% i've ever seen

[tight pulsar]

uh

this 60 i just sold was 550 without a pcb or keycaps or switches

[shy reef]

its custom that why

[shy reef]

So how is it??

[calm cobalt]

h u h

who has that much money holy

i wish i had 550 to use on a peripheral

[tight pulsar]

my board is probably around there

its a really slippery slope and yeah

[glad yarrow]

My keyboard and mouse together cost more than 4x less than my xbox controller

Like bruh!

[swift lantern]

sounds like you overpaid for an xbox controller more than anything

[bright kayak]

redragon k559

anyone use it before?

[swift lantern]

I use a k35

[wanton burrow]

why would you get that? it'll prob will have outemu blues, so it won't be good of a deal

prob add like $10 more you'll get the ones with gaterons and has diff switch options

royal kludge RK61 & RK71 would server u well

only take it is u rly like clicky switches

coz there were several better options there

and don't listen to redragon's swappable switch marketing

u can only fit other outemus there

[bright kayak]

it has outemu reds

[wanton burrow]

hmmm

that should be a safe buy then

no to outemu blues

[bright kayak]

me no like blues

[wanton burrow]

blues bad

[bright kayak]

blue is too clicky clicky

[wanton burrow]

outemu blue's clicks are.....

[timber ridge]

some outemu switches are good

jus not the one in gamer keyboards

[bright kayak]

are the reds okay?

[timber ridge]

scratchier than the competition

but if its the only red you tried then itll be the best red you tried lol

[bright kayak]

o

I’ve only tried blues before

[timber ridge]

you wont know its bad until you try better

epomaker and rk are about the same price and are marginally better

[wanton burrow]

gateron is like great budget keyb switch option

[bright kayak]

I’ve saw the sk61 which is 90 and has gateron browns

I’m just extremely cheap lol

[wanton burrow]

bruh u can get a tecware phantom elite for around 50

[bright kayak]

I’m not trying to spend a lot on a keyboard

[timber ridge]

refer to the pinned messages

i made a flowchart for prebuilts

[wanton burrow]

bruh wth

the latest pinned

[timber ridge]

forgot waht it was

i think workers at jwk or some

[wanton burrow]

oh lol

[wise token]

we love durock

[daring zenith]

K E Y C H R O N

is our ideology

[wise token]

lame

[daring zenith]

durock lame >:D

[little crater]

@wintry pawn so you want a headset with a mic to record singing on?

just get a standalone mic, they are often much better

also, how much are you looking to spend?

[golden plume]

have you ever heard of the logitech k835 or k845?

i found this weird keyboard while looking at some online store

[gloomy berry]

Seems like a foreign market keeb

[twilit socket]

@wintry pawn ^^^^^

[golden plume]

its really weird that i rarely find any discussion about this keyboard online

[gloomy berry]

It's on Shopee which is a Malaysia market i think.

But definitely Euro/Asian market only type thing

[golden plume]

yeah its k835 in european market

but i havent seen any marketing material here

https://www.inet.se/produkt/6610030/logitech-k835-tkl-gra
this one that I found in sweden

strangely no one talks about this at all

but the good news is logitech finally made a standard bottom row for their mechanical keyboard

for amazon: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089YFHYYS/ref=ewc_pr_img_3?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

but the font on the key is well, something

K845 font is really weird compare to the K835

at least to me from my pov

[wintry pawn]

seeking guidance on wired headphones with mic for singing, not gaming

[little crater]

get a standalone mic

and a pair of headphones without a mic

how much are you looking to spend

@wintry pawn

https://www.amazon.com/Koss-UR40-Collapsible-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B00006JILE
https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Yeti-Premium-Recording-Streaming/dp/B07DTTGZ7M

[wintry pawn]

ah! let's say $100 for both...?

[little crater]

how about 130?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0006H92QK
https://www.amazon.com/Koss-UR40-Collapsible-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B00006JILE

thats a real nice mic for 99 dollars, and the UR40 are a cheap pair of open back headphones that will be good enough

[west hornet]

But you would need an interface for a xlr mic. Xlr in 100usd range i really like the neat king bee or worker bee if you dont mind looks

[little crater]

so the blue yeti would be the 🇧etter option

my 🇧 key has stopped working

anyway, this one is even cheaper, and is usb https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Snowball-Condenser-Microphone-Cardioid/dp/B014PYGTUQ

should work fine

better than a headset mic lol

oh

my key works again lol

[west hornet]

A samson q2u or atr2005usb might be good and has good upgradability for future xlr

Snowball too nasally for singing

[little crater]

yeah but i realized they probably cant use XLR devices, right?

oh they support usb also

cool

[wintry pawn]

Please explain XLR

Ironically, my husband bought a Snowball "black ice" mic recently - and then he SLIPPED ON BLACK ICE! urg! torn quadriceps tendon. surgery!!!!!!! not sure I can go with snowball........! But if I'm going to use separate mic and headphones...maybe I 'll use his.... and watch out for black ice...

[steep pelican]

It’s a audio interface

Behringer

Here’s an example of one