peripherals-and-displays

[tight pulsar]

basically the opposite of what milky said

[rugged lion]

yeah i just dont like it

[daring zenith]

which part

[rugged lion]

the first part

[tight pulsar]

but just try it i wanna see if u like it or not

[daring zenith]

in a few weeks ig

[rugged lion]

also if ur spacebar is warped it might fix that a bit (weirdly enough it did for my other keyboard)

like pretty minorly but it helped

[tight pulsar]

why are you like an entire continent away from ur pc

[rugged lion]

thats not an actual thing tho

[daring zenith]

neighboring state

[tight pulsar]

why tho

[daring zenith]

y not

[tight pulsar]

cause thats weird

[daring zenith]

you're weird

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[frigid night]

hyperx reds are butterly smooth

[abstract shard]

so uh, moral of the story; nachos is weird?

[tacit wing]

whats weird about tortilla chips with cheese and toppings

[queen sigil]

honestly I find them quite pleasant

[rugged lion]

anyone know on avg how much epbt sets go for

like a range

[tight pulsar]

70-120 for legends

[rugged lion]

thanks

[little crater]

so like

#675035372253741092 message

[queen sigil]

[little crater]

400 after tax

rip

[queen sigil]

[little crater]

but at the same time

same drivers

so idk anymore

[sharp socket]

what are good headphones with good soundstage? perferably under $100 and has to be wired

[elder current]

What mouse can drag click in Minecraft

[last plinth]

my friend got a 5600x and 3070 build for 1700

[queen sigil]

i got a 5600x and 3060ti for 1400

[last plinth]

wow

[queen sigil]

(before taxes)

[last plinth]

u saw the clip i sent

im actually nuts

[queen sigil]

and that was also before

like

tariffs or whatever

i think

[little crater]

https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/ath-r70x
or
https://www.newegg.com/black-beyerdynamic-717525-earbud/p/N82E16826380026
they both the same price

[last plinth]

i wasnt even conscious when that happened i was zoning out

[little crater]

i want headphones with stellar imaging

[queen sigil]

LETS GO MULTIPLE CHOICE MATH QUIZ

[last plinth]

u gotta sign into school acc

[west hornet]

create math formula to answer all multiple choice correctly

[queen sigil]

no my teacher just doesnt give access to like

anything

he just forgets

[daring zenith]

@sly warren time to test these bois :D

[charred rapids]

Considering these

IDOBAO ID80 V2 75% HOT-SWAPPABLE

GMK Devoted Keycaps

And between halo trues, white jades, or zealios v2 67g

Or any other tactile keyswitches you guys recommend

[queen sigil]

t1s

[daring zenith]

Glorious pandas maybe?

@queen sigil btw, how are blueberries?

[charred rapids]

Maybe, never tried glorious pandas, but I have tried holy pandas

[queen sigil]

never tried em

[daring zenith]

Just the invar holy pandas feel like never in stock lel

[queen sigil]

i mean drop holy pandas are in stock usually

[charred rapids]

I am lowkey ordering from drop anyways

[tacit wing]

ah yes, another individual descending slowly into midfi hell

[charred rapids]

Yep instock

[daring zenith]

Hm

@tacit wing midfi hell?

[charred rapids]

So the thing is, I never lubed switches before, do I have to or is it simply to dampen noise

[daring zenith]

Lubing is not a requirement, depending on where you lube, it could dampen noise or smooth out the tactile bump on tactile switches afaik

[tacit wing]

midfi hell is just when someone buys copious amounts of lofi/midfi cans to try out "different flavors" to find some sort of preference in audio

[queen sigil]

i wouldn't say it dampens sounds

i mean it does

[charred rapids]

Ah ok

[queen sigil]

but it def sounds different

[charred rapids]

Opinions on Box Jades

[queen sigil]

its mostly to make it smoother

[daring zenith]

@tacit wing rip I'm going in

[tacit wing]

and when they found that one headphone that aligns with their preference, all the other headphones that were purchased to get to that destination just starts to collect dust

thats midfi hell

[daring zenith]

Hm

I think I'll try to limit myself xD

Guide others to a treasure I can't possess

[queen sigil]

uhhhh box jades

I mean they are really loud

and that's about it

[daring zenith]

@sly warren is it just me or does the Meizu dongle just... Delete the bass? There feels like so little bass with either ur40 or pc37x

[tacit wing]

ur40's are warm af, theyre warmer than porta pros

[daring zenith]

Warm iirc means higher high end like upper mids and treble right?

[tacit wing]

nope the complete opposite

[daring zenith]

O rip

High bass?

[tacit wing]

high bass lower mids around that ball park

[daring zenith]

Hm

Do you know how PC37x stands?

[tacit wing]

idk i havent seen the FR

[daring zenith]

(nor have I really, dekoni has a comparison thing but I dunno how to read headfone charts without a set thing to compare against, or is scaled somehow)

[tacit wing]

dekonis measurements look weird

[daring zenith]

?

[sly warren]

That's weird.

It feels plenty bassy to me.

[daring zenith]

That's compared to Fulla btw

[sly warren]

Maybe the Fulla is just bass leaning.

[daring zenith]

Not sure, but it's like I can barely feel bass with either headphones with Meizu, maybe I've used Fulla for too long and Fulla just has a lot of bass?

[sly warren]

^

Probably the case.

[daring zenith]

Either way it's making me dislike Meizu for how little bass I feel with it

Anyways, ur40 feels less wide (soundstage wise) than PC37x for sure, but that was kinda to be expected

And I believe it's the treble (?) That's making my ears uncomfortable with ur40

Not that bad, and is pretty much negated if I turn down volume, but definitely noticable

I might listen a while to Meizu using my PC37x to make sure, but it feels like I'm losing detail on Meizu, not just bass, but it feels more... Empty?

[tight pulsar]

okay now buy a tube amp to compare

[daring zenith]

No

@tight pulsar I swear ima figure out what sound I like just by using these two and maybe one more headphone

[tight pulsar]

uh huh

lol

[daring zenith]

Lol

[little crater]

i bought the beyerdynamic amiron home for 400 lol

im just gonna list my 990 pro and HD560s for sale

[daring zenith]

I'm prob gonna just go bankrupt before getting to hifi :p

@sly warren anyways, first impressions, UR40 very good for the price, Meizu dongle is decent for the price, but feels like I lost a lot of bass and quite a bit of detail, so together they're definitely not that great to beat everything sub 200$.

[sly warren]

You are tainted then. And just flat wrong. PC37X's have a narrower soundstage 1000%.

[daring zenith]

I mean, I could be tainted and wrong

but PC37x feels like quite a bit wider soundstage to me

[sly warren]

Guess either of our ears could be broken.

[daring zenith]

lol

do you have both?

[sly warren]

My PC37X's are at my Fiancee's house.

And she isn't using them anymore because her front panel connectors oddly are not working with the PC37X's, but her Pink Razer Krakens work.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[tight pulsar]

is everybodys ears here broken or something

[daring zenith]

nachos I think so

@sly warren maybe my fulla just hates ur40 or something, or fulla is really damn good

[sly warren]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I've debated on buying a Hel, but I'd rather just get a Schiit Stack and then a better pair of cans.

[daring zenith]

fair

wait isn't hei the same price as magni modi?

[tacit wing]

@daring zenith what you find in the Meizu lacking in bass is most likely due to compression and better overall dynamics with the Fula

[sly warren]

Hel is 189.00

[daring zenith]

interesting

[tacit wing]

the Hel and Fula are ONLY worth your while if you need the mic input, otherwise go for a dedicated stack setup

so headset users and modmic uni users will only make use of it

[sly warren]

Yup, I have a modmic.

[tacit wing]

well yeah go for it

[tight pulsar]

couldnt you just use a modmic through the rear io

[sly warren]

You can yes.

But, Rear IO SUCKS

[tacit wing]

realtek audio is cursed

[sly warren]

(Seriously, even my Meizu Dongle sounds better for Mic than the Rear IO on my motherboard)

[tight pulsar]

lol is it really that bad for just talking

[sly warren]

And the Meizu Dongle can even make you sound REALLY LOUD

I use my Modmic Uni with my Meizu Dongle at 10% volume

[tight pulsar]

lol PlastikSchnittstelle finally got all the hmkbs in https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705428346049265695/806631753636642829/hmkb_delivery_08.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705428346049265695/806631578595098674/hmkb_delivery_03.jpg

[rugged lion]

nice lol

[tacit wing]

whats weird is that Meizu should be plenty enough for UR40's

[sly warren]

USB issue?

Is this being fed from a USB-C Port, or a USB-A Port converted to USB-C?

[tacit wing]

that shouldn't matter

[sly warren]

If the 5v power rail is acting wonky, or something else like that.

[tacit wing]

most likely just compression but still, Meizu doesn't sound compressed

[sly warren]

Ye

[tacit wing]

its one of the best dongles out afaik

more power than Apple dongle

[sly warren]

Pretty sure it's the best dongle.

Outside of like, 200 dollar ones.

[west hornet]

Broken ears smh

Those budget koss are pretty nice. I like most for travel because they sound decent and don’t have to worry too much if I lose them or break

[queen sigil]

do you need a dac for like portapros

or can u just like

plug into computer

[west hornet]

Nah, but they seem to scale decent

[daring zenith]

My ears prob really broken but

[west hornet]

Porta is fine into pc, I mostly use with apple dongle

[daring zenith]

PC37x much good over ur40 so far

But I do believe it's like KHP30i > Porta pro > UR40 so

[west hornet]

I have no clue what the order is haha, all I know is they pretty similar. Porta has bit more bass and treble recessed mids, and kph is more neutral

[frigid night]

I bet if nzxt made keyboards they find a way to make it overheat

[west hornet]

Is that a challenge?

XD

[last plinth]

dude im getting a 165hz monitor but i cant even run that

[queen sigil]

yo valorant looks so different

[queen sigil]

i think i'll eventually get some smokey durock screwins

just because grey with grey case

style points

[tacit wing]

a DAC just basically takes the digital audio output that Windows processes and turns it into an analog output that your amplifier understands, your phone has a DAC, your mobo has a DAC etc.

as far as Porta Pros needing an amp, Ghosty is right

they like power but they can run off

if your smartphone has a headphonejack, which you dont see that often nowadays, it can run off that

[swift lantern]

I might not need xduoo

Motorola is the best so they have a thing that lets you hold the volume buttons to skip and go back

[tacit wing]

its too $$$ just for some buttons imo

it actually sounds a hair more compressed than my Apple dong

[west hornet]

APPLE

[sly warren]

I really hope my Fiancee actually bought me Porta Pros for valentines day like I said i'd like.

I got her the thing she wanted, and it just came in.

[tacit wing]

ah yes, another potential PP owner

PP and dong OP mobile audio setup

[sly warren]

I may even use PP for Gaming

If it has good imaging/soundstage

[tacit wing]

i take my PP out on my walks in the park

PP super versatile

they feel like nothing on your head

soundstage get wider with Yaxi pads

https://tenor.com/view/wide-vladimir-putin-russian-walking-gif-17506944

like this wide

[swift lantern]

this wide

[incredibly loud]

[torn summit]

What is a good dac/amp for dt 1990 pro

[sly warren]

Uhh, throwing away the DT 1990 Pros and getting something better /s

Coulda got HiFiMan Sundaras, or like, basically anything else.

[timber ridge]

1990s arent bad

but sundaras are a nice alternative

if hes looking for options

[torn summit]

There’s so many mixed emotions about all of these

[tacit wing]

Beyers generally have a treble peak that a good chunk amount of audiophiles find offensive

[sly warren]

Or, any human being with properly functioning ears.

[tacit wing]

unless you have tried it personally then go ahead, but if its your first Beyer tread carefully

[timber ridge]

aeons x are the same price, if not cheaper than 1990s

[torn summit]

Honestly I’m coming from gaming headsets and I just want high quality audio

[tacit wing]

even their least offensive pair, the 880's are still too bright for some

[sly warren]

Start with Koss UR40's and go from there.

[timber ridge]

you should learn what you like before jumping to something thats 600 bucks

[sly warren]

They are 30 bucks, and are great.

[torn summit]

I have around 800 to spend on it

[sly warren]

Yeah, I wouldn't go that far into the deep end yet.

[timber ridge]

you can do cal+6xx

[sly warren]

Start cheap and work your way up.

[timber ridge]

or sundara/6xx

[tacit wing]

@torn summit refer to pinned messages

[timber ridge]

should be around the same price of a 1990

[sly warren]

I'd start with CAL and UR40

CAL or, Creative Aurvana Live SE is a closedback headphone with a lean towards real bass.

[timber ridge]

true

[sly warren]

And, Koss UR40's are a warm leaning neutral headphone.

[timber ridge]

and depending on what he like, he can cash out on teaks or something

[sly warren]

As for a Source, I'd recommend starting with the famed, Meizu Dongle.

[timber ridge]

mmm

he should jus get an amp/dac

[sly warren]

Nah

[timber ridge]

since hes gonna need it in the future anyway

[sly warren]

Start slow.

And the Meizu Dongle has uses after you upgrade to a proper amp

And dac

[timber ridge]

unless he has aniphone

[torn summit]

I was planning on getting an amp/dac anyways since I wanted to get into high quality audio

[sly warren]

The Amp and DAC are like 10% of the setup

[tacit wing]

schiit or atom stack

[sly warren]

90% of the setup is the headphones themselves.

[torn summit]

Yeah

[swift lantern]

most people could probably get a zen dac and call it a day

[timber ridge]

if you know the retailer is selling a specific model, then topping stack

[tacit wing]

not lance

[timber ridge]

i think hifigo sells non defective l30s

and i really wanted to like the zen dac, i got a dud

[sly warren]

My recommendation is to start with both the Koss UR40's and CAL SE's that will let you get your feet wet on the cheap, and will let you hear 2 different styles of headphone.

Sure, you have 800 bucks to throw around, but Headphones never really age.

[torn summit]

What’s the point of starting cheaper tho if I can already go a bit further

[sly warren]

So, you might one day want to come back and use your UR40's or CAL SE's after upgrading to something else.

[timber ridge]

to know what you like

[sly warren]

And it's a testing ground.

[tacit wing]

refer to the spreadsheet in the pinned messages

pls

[sly warren]

Like, I would never recommend someone to buy anything from Grado or Beyerdynamic without them first having tried a Grado or Beyerdynamic.

Because they take a certain taste in audio to enjoy.

[torn summit]

I can abuse Amazon’s return policy

Lol

[sly warren]

I wouldn't do that.

Because then you are just out money until they give it back to you.

[torn summit]

True

[timber ridge]

imean

if you ask for amazon credit when you return you get it like same day

o i was watching badseedtech and he legit said dt880s are neutral

[sly warren]

His ears are BUSTED then

[tacit wing]

BST isnt exactly a reliable source

[timber ridge]

idk, everything else he says is right for the most part

[tacit wing]

880's are bright ushape

[timber ridge]

when he said that, i was like wtf lmao

[sly warren]

Cicero forgot to put the Koss UR40 on his list...

[tacit wing]

well its not Juan's list

[torn summit]

660s sundara or 1990

[sly warren]

Sundaras is what i'd buy (And I will eventually BE buying)

[torn summit]

Also where’s a good area to get a schiit stack

[sly warren]

From Schiit themselves...

[torn summit]

Ok

Lmao

[sly warren]

I would seriously start with Koss UR40's and a CAL SE's to learn what you like.

[timber ridge]

^

or anything cheaper

than what you mentioned

[sly warren]

No sense in buying a pair of Sundaras and finding out you just don't like them.

[timber ridge]

buying whats popular in the audio community doesnt always work out

everyone recommends 6xx, kuzu bought them and its the worse thing hes heard

[swift lantern]

Sundara sundara sundara

[timber ridge]

kuzu a champion now

wowowow

[swift lantern]

planars

but true actually

get a cheaper planar first

[timber ridge]

4xx are a nice pair

[tacit wing]

out of those 3 i too would choose Sundaras

[timber ridge]

and sound sig is p safe for gamers

[tacit wing]

pretty sparkle in the treble, a safe choice

[torn summit]

What is the sound like on the sandara

[tacit wing]

stellar detail and res

[swift lantern]

well they say mine are warmer sundaras

[torn summit]

How’s the bass

[swift lantern]

so pretty good but a bit lackin in the bass out the box

[timber ridge]

bass may good for one person but not another

[tacit wing]

if you havent heard planar timbre then you might be disappointed with bass

[torn summit]

My headphones already have bad bass

Lol

[swift lantern]

I am a bass head and I like planars

[tacit wing]

if lowend is your priority, i recommend biodynamic drivers

[swift lantern]

so I think it okay

[torn summit]

So I doubt the audiophile headphones would have worse

[timber ridge]

youd be surprised

you could do sundaras and some bassy iems

[west hornet]

mmm bassheads

[timber ridge]

theres legit an iem for everyone

[torn summit]

I’m not a bass head lol

I don’t need to be shaking

Definitely not what I need

I listen to a lot of rock or alternative rock

[timber ridge]

what headphones do u have rn ?

[torn summit]

Logitech pro x

[sly warren]

Hmm, my next pair of cans might actually be K612 Pros

Apparently the sundaras are more of a V-shape, and HD600's would be a little better.

[swift lantern]

I

doubt that

[sly warren]

But HD600's have a "below average" soundstage.

[swift lantern]

600s just suck

ok

fight me

in hand to hand combat

[sly warren]

I mean 6XX =/= 600

[timber ridge]

isnt the pro x kinda bass heavy

[torn summit]

So

Sundara

[swift lantern]

try a cheaper planar fist

[timber ridge]

lemme find a graph

[swift lantern]

I think there's even a cheaper gold planar

yeah within the $180ish range you have 4xx, 400i, and gl600

[swift lantern]

gold planar gl400 is a planar, for $80

curious

[timber ridge]

4xx scale with power really good

and they have p good bass

[torn summit]

Sundara with what amp/dac

[swift lantern]

zen dac or higher I think

[timber ridge]

he could get a zen dac and if its not enough, jus upgrade to zen can

[swift lantern]

yeah

and the zen can has enough juice for basically anything a mortal will use

[timber ridge]

if he has sundara money, he could jus do 4xx and 6xx

to see what he likes, since they have 2 dif sound sigs

[astral lion]

wow

what is sundara

[timber ridge]

basically a more expensive version of ur40s and CAL

and theyre headphones

[astral lion]

wow

thats mad expensive

my headphones bass is fine

not eht best thing in the world

but for my simple consumer use, eqing in realtek console is good enough

[swift lantern]

I suppose he could try the 6xx as long as he doesn't mind returning them

[timber ridge]

if he knows he doesnt like 6xx, that takes out like 10 options

[torn summit]

That’s the thing

I’ve been on gaming headphones forever

So I don’t really know

[sly warren]

This is why you start with UR40's and CAL

Then if you like CAL, go for EMU Teaks, if you like UR40's then you have some options.

[torn summit]

Hm

Honestly I think I’d be happy with any higher quality sound

I spend a lot of time listening to music so higher quality sound would be awesome

[sly warren]

You'd be surprised.

[astral lion]

cal is ok assuming u wont be wearing for a long time

[sly warren]

There's a difference between Higher Quality Sound, and good headphones.

[astral lion]

depends if u value comfort over sound

[torn summit]

I’d like a combo of the two

Lol

[sly warren]

Yes, but what KIND of sound do you want?

Because there's a wide variety of headphone "sounds"

You have V-Shape, which is Bass and Treble heavy, with lacking Mids (Mids are where most instruments live and most vocals live too)

You have "Balanced" or "Neutral" which tries to be as true to what the track was meant to sound like.

You have U shape, which I forget what that realistically means.

And then you have "Bright" which tends to lean heavily into the Treble.

And then after that you have Soundstaging.

Which is the "3D" effect that music can have (and games too)

Do you want a Close soundstage that makes everything feel like it's right up against your skull? Or do you want better instrument separation and instead want a Wide soundstage?

[torn summit]

Wide and probably not super bright

But a touch of brightness would be nice

[sly warren]

Since you have a little bit of money to throw at it, you could look at AKG K612 Pros

https://www.amazon.com/AKG-Pro-Audio-Reference-Headphone/dp/B00DCXZY1W

[last shadow]

i have a keyboard question gamers

[sly warren]

Answer: Keychron

[last shadow]

no.

[sly warren]

Yes.

For 90% of keyboard needs, Keychron is the answer.

And basically anything else is Custom

[last shadow]

so say for example i kust so happen to have a redragon k552 that i have laying around and never use because i use my k95 and i feel bad for it so i wnated to mod it

ok now hear me out

[sly warren]

Well, step 1 is to just throw both your K552 and K95 in the garbage bin and buy a Keychron.

[torn summit]

I’d also like the headphones to be good for gaming

Forgot to add that in there too

[sly warren]

Well, Wide Soundstage can help with gaming.

And, Neutral headphones also can help pick out sounds like Footsteps

Since footsteps like to live in the mids

[timber ridge]

you forgot w shape sound sigs

and neutral depends on what the user has used before

[sly warren]

Lance, don't confuse the poor man with weird memes.

[timber ridge]

something neutral to you may not be neutral to them

[torn summit]

Lmao

[sly warren]

Well, the K612 Pros are according to Cicero "Neutral/bright"

[torn summit]

Basically the main ones I was looking at was the 600, 660, 1990 and now the sundara

Could you describe what those are like

Those 4

[queen sigil]

[sly warren]

HD 600: Basically the "De-facto" openback headphone. Though oddly enough they end up being quite closed off in the soundstage department.

HD 660: ???

[timber ridge]

if you wanna spend big bucks, id recommend 6xx+4xx or 6xx+sundaras

[sly warren]

DT 1990: Skip. It's a big treble mess just like most Beyerdynamic headphones.

[timber ridge]

or 6xx+k371

[sly warren]

Sundaras: I'm not 100% sure how they sound, I have gotten a lot of conflicting reviews.

[timber ridge]

and someone whos not an audiophile may not notice the treble peaks

[swift lantern]

hd 6xx: garbage
hd 600: more expensive garbage

[last shadow]

i love how mans didnt help me at all with my question but instead told me to do soemthing ive already decided im not doing

massive brain

[sly warren]

Because whatever idea you have is probably really stupid.

[timber ridge]

you said hear me out and never typed

[sly warren]

And your time and money would be better spent on just getting a better board in the first place.

[queen sigil]

[timber ridge]

and chances are, its not worth modding it

unless you wanna desolder

[last shadow]

i bought the redragon over a year ago before i got my k95 and just wanted to mess with it but alright

[timber ridge]

which is lowkey a pain

[last shadow]

the switches arent soldered

[timber ridge]

hotswap ?

[last shadow]

ye

[queen sigil]

It's outemu hot swap sockets

[timber ridge]

outemu makes 2 good switches

maybe 3

outemu sky, outemu phoenix and outemu silent tactile

[last shadow]

i hate linear with a passion so im getting rid of them

[torn summit]

is the 6xx + sandara

[calm cobalt]

What is Peripheral chat like?

[timber ridge]

you can get either of those 3

[torn summit]

is the 6xx an amp/adac?

lmao

[timber ridge]

6xx headphones

[calm cobalt]

Last I heard someone called this chat "Rabid dogs"

[queen sigil]

lol

[calm cobalt]

lmao

[torn summit]

oh thats what you mean

why both?

[timber ridge]

but theyre like the only mid centric headphones in the price range

[torn summit]

to test

?

[timber ridge]

so basically im recommending two different sound sig headphones

[torn summit]

ok

[timber ridge]

one a bit more v shape, other u shape

6xx - detail and mid centric

[calm cobalt]

beautiful

[timber ridge]

sundara - kinda of an all arounder with more bass

[sly warren]

Also, if you do get K612 Pros, they REALLY like power.

[timber ridge]

6xx is known to be lacking in the low end

[torn summit]

so i gotta order off drop and amazon

[timber ridge]

to sum it up, the two headphones are made to compliment each other

[torn summit]

and then the schiit stack

[timber ridge]

doesnt have to be a schiit stack

[sly warren]

Apparently they are more power hungry at 120 Ohms than the HD600's are at 300 Ohms

[torn summit]

whata good dac/amp then

[sly warren]

Atom Stack

[timber ridge]

budget?

[torn summit]

like $700

for everyhting

[sly warren]

For everything?

[timber ridge]

whats your budget for the amp/dac alone?

[torn summit]

whatever is left after the headphones lol

[sly warren]

It's realistically 200 bucks for a DAC and Amp stack that will play most anything.

[timber ridge]

i personally like the e30/l30 stack, but you have to make sure its the model that isnt defective

[torn summit]

what would be soemthing that i would just know works lmao

[timber ridge]

atom prob lol

schiit is good too, but there is cases of them going up in flames

[torn summit]

uh

lmao

[timber ridge]

and if you plan to run balanced then we'd have to recommend new stacks

[swift lantern]

the akg 612 are 92 db/mw compared to 6xx 103db/mw

[torn summit]

whats the benefit of balanced opposed to not

[swift lantern]

power

[torn summit]

more power good

[timber ridge]

and some ppl say sound stage etc is improved

[swift lantern]

(and less interference over longer distances)

[sly warren]

Balanced is a meme.

[swift lantern]

it's not, what people say about it is

[torn summit]

so balanced is generally better?

or

[swift lantern]

it's just more power the end

[timber ridge]

yes

but se isnt bad

[swift lantern]

if your headphone is balanced, great

if it's not, no big deal

[timber ridge]

^

[torn summit]

are the 6xx and sundara both balanceable?

[swift lantern]

sundara is iirc 6xx would require a custom cable

[timber ridge]

you have to buy separate cables

so like 100 more ontop

[swift lantern]

and the 6xx cables are expensive cuz they're proprietary

[timber ridge]

^

[swift lantern]

cuz sennheiser sucks

[torn summit]

so what youre saying is

just get the sundara

lol

[swift lantern]

well, or a cheaper planar

[timber ridge]

everyone ears is different

[swift lantern]

or even a different dynamic

[timber ridge]

so thats why we recommend trying cheaper things first

[swift lantern]

I just personally don't like sennheiser

they let me down, they did not live up to the hype

[timber ridge]

and no point in recommending sundaras and 4xx bc they have similar sound sigs

[torn summit]

just to make sure im not stupid

these ones right? https://www.amazon.com/HIFIMAN-SUNDARA-Over-Ear-Full-Size-Headphones/dp/B077XDWT7X/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=sundara&qid=1612495975&sr=8-4

[timber ridge]

yup

[torn summit]

i see soem stuff about poor build quality

[swift lantern]

yknow I really would be curious to compare them to my phantoms

really? mostly metal build

[timber ridge]

hifiman qc

[torn summit]

people said the glue started coming off after 6months

[swift lantern]

I would be curious to compare the sundara to phantoms cuz like, 41mm difference in driver size

[torn summit]

wwoah

[swift lantern]

oh yeah within that range there's also the sivga

[timber ridge]

qc is known for its questionable qc

hifiman***

braindead moment

[torn summit]

lmao

biggest brian

[timber ridge]

watching a show with my gf rn

and trying to type on the side lol

[torn summit]

relatable

[timber ridge]

watching the wonder years

[torn summit]

are they comfortable for long sessions

[swift lantern]

not relatable

[torn summit]

theyre also 150 dollars off rn

which is nice

[timber ridge]

350 is normal price

[torn summit]

oh cool

[swift lantern]

yeah 350 is normal

[torn summit]

lmso

[torn summit]

so comfort yes or no

[timber ridge]

unless you have a weird head or something

should be

[torn summit]

yeah my head is watermelon shaped

lmao jk

sorry for asking agin but wats a good amp/dac

thats not crazy expensive

[timber ridge]

how much is left in ur budget ?

[torn summit]

like 200

[swift lantern]

lot of options

[timber ridge]

liquid spark combo

atom, schiit

or zen dac alone then upgrade later

[swift lantern]

or fiio k5

[timber ridge]

zen dac is more "fun"

[torn summit]

hm

[swift lantern]

oh yeah cuz it got that bass switch

true dat

[timber ridge]

and from what i heard, k5 can be a bit boring

[torn summit]

which zen daq

[swift lantern]

ifi zen dac, $130

[torn summit]

dang why is it taking so long to be ins tock

lol

[timber ridge]

hot product

and one of the only dacs that comes with rca cables

oh also one of the few that has a balance output at that price range

[torn summit]

i see

anything special id need after the headphones and the dac

[timber ridge]

nope

but there is some optional things

[torn summit]

no special cable for pc or anything

[timber ridge]

you can get a separate ac adapter for the zen dac along with a longer usb cable

[swift lantern]

cables should be included

[timber ridge]

and if you wanna go balance, you can get those too

[swift lantern]

oh, yeah get a power brick for the zen dac to get maximum powaaa

[timber ridge]

but if i were you, id skip the balance cable and throw in some iems if you have money to spare

[torn summit]

iem

[timber ridge]

in ear monitors

i use my iem more than my headphones lowkey

[torn summit]

idk if i need that

lol

[timber ridge]

yea, i was js if you got money to spare

[torn summit]

gotcha

what kind of power brick btw

[timber ridge]

5v

barrel pin

or whatever

i lowkey forgot, so youd have to look into it

[torn summit]

https://www.amazon.com/ALITOVE-Converter-5-5x2-1mm-100V-240V-Security/dp/B078RT3ZPS/ref=sr_1_12?dchild=1&keywords=5+volt+barrel+pin&qid=1612496935&s=electronics&sr=1-12

would this work

[timber ridge]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ALGGK2O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

maybe something like this

ifi makes their own but its p pricey

[torn summit]

what is it powered on normally

just the wall?

[timber ridge]

usb power

but its prob best to get a clean power source from the ac adapter

[torn summit]

okay so the power brick

sundara

and the zen dac

balanced cables included in th headphones?

[swift lantern]

$491 total

[timber ridge]

nope

you have to get balance cables separately

[tight pulsar]

wow very helpful mic port

[torn summit]

any recommendations

[timber ridge]

how are the blons

[tight pulsar]

theyre pretty nice and fit really good

the bag is kinda small tho

[timber ridge]

nice

and we lost dino again

prob wont be joining back

[swift lantern]

not off hand, you'd have to find a 4.4mm one for zen dac

[sly warren]

My recommendation is to skip balanced output until you have over 2 grand to drop on headphone stuff

[torn summit]

ok

[sly warren]

A Zen DAC is gonna already output more than enough power for Sundaras

[torn summit]

ok

[timber ridge]

bit of a stretch

[west hornet]

hmm

[torn summit]

hows the sundara's soundstage and hows like the location

[brisk parcel]

you mean imaging?

[torn summit]

yep thats the term

[brisk parcel]

from what I hear they have pretty great soundstaging, imaging is also pretty great, not the best, but one of the best for it's price range

[torn summit]

id guess probably a big improvement coming from logitech pro x headphone

[timber ridge]

impulse

[little crater]

same

[timber ridge]

now im not sure if i should pull the trigger on sundaras or not

[little crater]

do it

[timber ridge]

maybe

im considering my options rn

and i forgot i have to finish my payment on a keyboard so rip that

[little crater]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-RCA-Stereo-L-R-to-RJ45-Over-Ethernet-Extender-Cable-up-to-250ft-Pack-of-2/391903423357

imagine overpaying for fancy expensive audio cables

[calm cobalt]

lol

[little crater]

should i buy it lol

[west hornet]

Lol never seen that before

[little crater]

see how it work

[calm cobalt]

I mean I have a QR but it doesn't lead to RJ45's 😉

It leads to RJ46's

[little crater]

im looking for something to go between my turntable / PC to my AMP, but im not sure if having a switch between them would adversly effect audio quality

https://www.amazon.com/Stereo-Selector-Passive-Switcher-Splitter/dp/B0886BF6JF

so kinda like this

would this be ok?

its passive, so i would assume theres nothing funky going on inside

[west hornet]

No idea tbh, haven’t used much splitters like that

[trail panther]

Anyone see those weird like....claw? paw? but reverse? Left hand keyboards recently? Trying to find them again

[timber ridge]

southpaw keyboards ?

[vernal plinth]

Mad katz logo?

[tight pulsar]

if ur talking about left hand numberpad/that kind of thing yeah southpaw

[timber ridge]

@swift lantern xd 05 bal is like 400 lmao

[queen sigil]

maybe he's just talking about like left hand keypads

like that razer one

idk either

[spice ridge]

I am looking for a good 300$ monitor in the USA... Need it for gaming/editing/coding, 2k pref but 1080p will do too

27 pref

[swift lantern]

Xd 05 balanced finally came out tho?

[small nimbus]

#old-monitors-and-tv

[dense bramble]

Would anyone have any recommendations to get multiple screens working with the new M1 Macbooks pro? I have been not seeing much info what docks will work with the new processor..

[swift lantern]

well as long as it uses standard video ports, the standard methods should work, no?

although on the software side...

[dense bramble]

I wish -- The new processor only support 1 additional screen through the traditional way through thunderbolt connection.

[west hornet]

kuzu it doesnt use standard video ports its usb c, and im not sure how compatibility is seeing that it doesnt seem to have pcie access of any sort

tbh idk much on that subject, typically if it only support one external monitor than any splitters or adapter you use will just replicate one of the other screens rather than a new empty desktop

if you happen to have a ipad or apple tv possibly? there are things like sidecar or airplay that can be used as a wireless second display

[swift lantern]

usb c video out is pretty rare ain't it

[dense bramble]

I have only really seen USB out on Apple and some dell laptops....

Great idea to try Ghosty, I will try that out with my apple TV!

I did just stumble on a dock from "Plugable" that routes additional displays through a separate driver. (If this subject is of interest)

Appreciate the help!

[sly warren]

Just buy an Apple Display XDR. That's certified to work

[north ridge]

i need NEW KWYBOARD I JUST BROKE MINE AND I LIKE 60 %

any suggestions

[rugged lion]

Budget?

[north ridge]

150

[rugged lion]

U want a custom or prebuilt

[north ridge]

if i could get a custom that woul dbe cool

i had a ducky 1 two mini

[rugged lion]

Ah

Linear or tactile

[north ridge]

linear

[tight pulsar]

you could probably grab a nk 65 and something like ktt/gateron/jwk linears

[rugged lion]

ehhh

[tight pulsar]

or if you wanted something more jank you could get one of those 60% plastic cases+h60 and gummyworm mod it and get some jwicks or something from alas

[rugged lion]

150, no

cant really fit a nk65 in a 150 dollar budget unless u make some serious compromises

especially if u dont already have stuff like lube

[tight pulsar]

you could get it sub 155 before shipping which is close enough

[north ridge]

link?

[tight pulsar]

https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/keyboards/products/nk65-entry-edition?variant=37950945099943 https://cannonkeys.com/products/gateron-yellow-10 and you could get some good blanks for like 20-30 or hkgaming for 40

[north ridge]

the only color is fire

[tight pulsar]

ah yeah and theyre moving warehouses so it might take a while to restock them :/

[north ridge]

so i still dont know what to get

[rugged lion]

GK61x, JWKs, and hk gaming would work

Maybe not the best

[sharp kindle]

That won’t work

Hkgaming is cherry profile

Gk61x has north facing switches

[timber ridge]

mistel has nice keycaps too

not much color options tho

[rugged lion]

good point

[timber ridge]

yea, its 400

[swift lantern]

that's not 05 that a different thing

[timber ridge]

is it really ?

https://drop.com/buy/xduoo-xd-05-bal-balanced-dac-amp

[swift lantern]

oh I thought

why doesn't apos have it

[timber ridge]

dunno

[swift lantern]

well that's expensive AF

xduoo basic it is I guess

[timber ridge]

or ifi

[swift lantern]

ironically maybe I should get zen can again

and just a different dac

[timber ridge]

idk why u sent it back

[tight pulsar]

does anybody in this channel have good spending habits

[rugged lion]

i might get a mercutio

so

better than I am getting a mercutio

plus its a mercutio

financial

[timber ridge]

same lol

[swift lantern]

cuz there's infinite options for amps and I thought maybe I don't need it

heck, I don't

[rugged lion]

im not gonna go millmax tho

[swift lantern]

I could probably get a different combo and be fine

[rugged lion]

want it as a solder project

plus its sick

[rugged lion]

gb ends tmrw tho so..

i have like 400 dollars rn to spend on a keyboard

its tempting

[tight pulsar]

my tht board will be here as soon was all the qc and testing is finished ||chaos hurry up||

[swift lantern]

I should probably just get an atom

tbh

[timber ridge]

atom stack ?

[swift lantern]

yeah I guess

oh man, did you know bravo makes other amps that are just... open

why they do that

[timber ridge]

only downside to the atom stack imo is build quality

[swift lantern]

atom build quality wonky?

I'm just really skeptical how much a dac can even make a difference

[tight pulsar]

lol that photo reminds me of all the $30 dacs and amps on aliexpress

[swift lantern]

wait that means they're probably wholesale

and therefore a good deal

[tight pulsar]

lol how bad you think this is https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001041856730.html?

[timber ridge]

atom stack is all plastic

so unlike the zen can where its solid and heavy

you get a plastic and light weight

[swift lantern]

it's an amp dawg

[timber ridge]

ye, but compared to its competitors it has trash build quality

[swift lantern]

yeah actually I'm eyeing that liquid spark

[tight pulsar]

hm might pick these up for $40 https://imgur.com/gallery/VZFvT2r and then i might offload my cmyw kit cause im not using those for i project

[swift lantern]

liquid spark is more powerful and better built for $10 more than atom

so.. makes sense

of course downsides are that liquid spark needs rca in, and 1/4" out, no included cables or adapters

also found one on ebay reputable seller

liquid spark it is

[timber ridge]

im a topping simp ngl

e30/l30 combo op

[swift lantern]

they have the best build quality I think

there's a combo on sale for $100 ebay

[timber ridge]

and apparently they have the best dac

[swift lantern]

6 days left tho

[timber ridge]

in that price range

does he show serial #?

[swift lantern]

which part was the problem anyway

the l30 right?

[timber ridge]

amp

l30 im p sure

[swift lantern]

I guess the experience burned him on the company...

fair tbh

[timber ridge]

ye

[swift lantern]

the liquid spark ends in 18h tho

[timber ridge]

atom stack may have trash build quality but customer support is prob the best

[swift lantern]

I prefer the cheaper but 0 customer support route

[timber ridge]

and liquid comes with no cable or adapter?

[swift lantern]

it comes with no rca cable, no 1/4" adapter

[timber ridge]

bruh

[swift lantern]

does come with power brick tho

[swift lantern]

you got?

[timber ridge]

jus random pic

the dac portion of it caught my interest a bit

shape is a bit wonky tho

[tight pulsar]

it is indeed a bit wonky

[swift lantern]

I like it

it's industrial looking

[timber ridge]

honestly you should jus rebuy teh zen can and get a random dac

4.4 + xbass

and you get adapters

[swift lantern]

liquid spark is about as powerful SE as zen CAN is

I don't care about balanced okee

unless I ended up getting those gold planars maybe idk

what an odd decision on their part to make it native 4.4mm

[swift lantern]

well either way, I got a 1/4inch adapter just in case and a meizu dongle finally

[timber ridge]

how is it

[swift lantern]

I'm saying I ordered*

[timber ridge]

o gg

my k371 come tomorrow

[spring jackal]

What's a good budget microphone? Not really looking for the best acoustics but something that just records voices fine.

[last plinth]

fifine t669

theres a bundle with a arm and stuff for like 60

https://fifinemicrophone.com/products/fifine-usb-microphone-t669?gclid=Cj0KCQiAmfmABhCHARIsACwPRAAg1HIugTowUtlW26lPP_If1qCXqNNoN2d4AQv1kL1J3n5N5aA1GfcaAllpEALw_wcB

@spring jackal

[spring jackal]

Nice! Does it need like a phantom power supply unit or can I just connect it to my PC?

[frigid night]

i mean u can see a usb on it

[prime brook]

Alternatively if your budget is higher my friends and I use the at2020pk https://amzn.to/2YQbz1B but you also need to get a usb mixer like this https://amzn.to/3pWdSfz . This is called an xlr condenser mic with a large diaphragm. The mixer has phantom power that powers the xlr mic and runs the sound to the pc via usb. It’s hard to tune just right but once you learn how to, it’s soooo good. Plus there is room for other analogue inputs like for example a phone. Or sound board. Idk 🤷‍♀️

[west hornet]

Usb mics don’t need phantom power, for budget usb I like the fifine, samson q2u, hyperx solocast is decent, elgato wave 1, shure m7v

[rugged lion]

MERCUTIO ORDER HAS BEEN CONFIRMED

Buying it when I get home

[little crater]

https://littledotus.com/?product=mk-iii
so i bought one of these used on ebay for 189, and it came with an additional set of tubes and is in literal perfect condition

[swift lantern]

How is it

[little crater]

well, I'm moving back to a college apartment tomorrow, so it all went right back in the boxes they came in

[brisk parcel]

@little crater luckyyy

I wanted to cop the mk3

what other tubes did it come with aside from stock?

aww damn did dino leave again?

big sad 🥺

[little crater]

not sure, I didn't unwrap em

the dude selling em never mentioned he got a new set of tubes, I just assumed I was only getting the stock ones

[swift lantern]

Well let us know afterwards

I've always been interested in tube amps

[brisk parcel]

ooh yes, very curious

toob make sound go mmmmmmmm

[swift lantern]

I both love and hate ebay

[languid badge]

Good place to buy custom key caps other than Amazon?

[high fulcrum]

❤️

[queen sigil]

is that a drop keyboard

[queen sigil]

depends what you mean by "custom"

[languid badge]

Just keycaps in general

@queen sigil

[queen sigil]

depends on youe budget

the cheapest keycaps sets are usually on amazon and aliexpress

[timber ridge]

might consider going with tubes if i pick up 6xx

[swift lantern]

I really think what they meant by "infinitely scaleable" is "needs a much more expensive amp to sound actually good"

[timber ridge]

idk but its very amp dependent

[swift lantern]

idk personally I think expensive headphones should be able to wow on anything other than a phone

[timber ridge]

well they do obv with the amount of ppl liking them

[swift lantern]

I don't get it

I DONT GET IT

AAAAAUGH

[timber ridge]

dont u have planars

[swift lantern]

yeah

people say generally not to pair planars with tube amps

[timber ridge]

yea

[swift lantern]

something something high impedance load something something distotion

[timber ridge]

solid state might be better

[swift lantern]

I'm gonna shoot for that e30 l30 combo on the bay

probably won't get it though because people on ebay are EVIL

[timber ridge]

gl

someone locally is selling an e30

tempting

[swift lantern]

"let me just wait until the last 20 minutes to bid and set my maximum bid $20 more than the starting"

[timber ridge]

what is it at rn

[swift lantern]

it's at $107 rn, currently

[timber ridge]

wait its for both ?

or jus one half of i t

[swift lantern]

both

I set my max bid to $150 for now

[timber ridge]

bruh

i would bid more

it cost 150 for unit alone

[swift lantern]

better to start low

obv

[timber ridge]

are you bidding last second

or like close to ending

[swift lantern]

it's got some time left, I'm just gonna wait to see the activity

[timber ridge]

ic

[swift lantern]

knowing these mfs they will all bid last friggin second

I hate them

pain, agony even

[timber ridge]

have you tried checking for stuff locally on offerup or marketplace

[swift lantern]

I haven't tried offerup, I probably should

[timber ridge]

you can find some gems

[swift lantern]

excuse me?

[timber ridge]

yikes

[swift lantern]

facebook marketplace is annoying because it just does not respect the concept of keywords

[timber ridge]

fb marketplace is filled with airpod and beats clones

[swift lantern]

👀

there's like, no info on this thing wth

[rugged lion]

@tight pulsar gonna need a pin on this.

Just to let everyone know flipped spacebar bad

[timber ridge]

ive never heard of carlsbad

[queen sigil]

still doesnt change the fact that it fits to your thunb better

[tight pulsar]

so is that diagram showing that it takes more force to press?

[rugged lion]

Yes flipped bad

[rugged lion]

Nah

[tight pulsar]

uh thats not really a bad thing people put heavier springs in their spacebar

[swift lantern]

someone selling a thx AAA 789 for $75 off of retail

[rugged lion]

If u use flipped spacebar just log out in giving u a Corsair K80

[timber ridge]

considering the keeb community is all preference, idk why that exist

[rugged lion]

Cap

[queen sigil]

you talking about flipped spacebars is like kuzu talking about the 6xx or whatever

[timber ridge]

i would lowkey pick that up

no its an amp

[swift lantern]

that's too much though ain't it

[timber ridge]

im not sure how much they go for

but if it cost somewhere near 200ish, i would of picked one up

[swift lantern]

$300 on drop

he's selling it for $225

[timber ridge]

i was talking about used prices

[swift lantern]

but I'm saying that's too much power ain't it

[timber ridge]

you can never really have too much power

[swift lantern]

yeah but like if I could get a cheaper smaller one

better deal for me

[timber ridge]

and at 200ish, its competing price wise with the a50s, magnius

prob

[swift lantern]

through balanced it does

it does... holy

[timber ridge]

feel like that amp would be better suited for nachos or some

[swift lantern]

SIX WATTS at 32 ohm

[timber ridge]

p sure hes interested in xlr too

yea its actually quite the unit

[swift lantern]

1.8w at 32 ohm single ended

has a fully balanced xlr, 3.5mm, and 1/4"

[timber ridge]

does it hve a dac to match it ?

[swift lantern]

noh

[timber ridge]

speaking of dacs, idk why topping dacs cost more than their corresponding amps

[swift lantern]

good question

considering it's the less important component of the two

[timber ridge]

pog

[swift lantern]

those look wonky

YOU

[timber ridge]

bruh

[swift lantern]

26 miles away

[timber ridge]

youre down south ?

[swift lantern]

yah

[timber ridge]

i lowkey get trash audio stuff where im at

hopefully when i move to sf i get better stuff locally lol

[swift lantern]

why on EARTH are you moving to SF

[timber ridge]

my college

what the

k371 hav a mini xlr connector

came with 3 dif cables and adapter

[swift lantern]

mini xlr like the audeze use?

[timber ridge]

im not sure what audeze uses

but prob is

compared to mh752, sub bass is more noticable

detail is better

its basically an overall upgrade in all departments

[swift lantern]

well that's good then

[timber ridge]

yea

running it from my gamer dongle lmao

still think oh10s are the best thing i own tho

[swift lantern]

what am I to make of this

that's $90 including priority shipping btw

and they do accept returns

[queen sigil]

keyboard should be arriving on monday

nice

[timber ridge]

where is it coming from

[swift lantern]

wdym by that

like how far away

[queen sigil]

wait

wtf

[swift lantern]

BRUH

@timber ridge it's in vegas baby

[timber ridge]

yea

[swift lantern]

vegas

[timber ridge]

o gg

[swift lantern]

you think that good?

they have literally 4 bad reviews out of over 35,000 total

and even on those 4 they commented like "bro why didn't you contact me first I could've-"