peripherals-and-displays

[deep plinth]

It was a picture, I imagine it would be much different irl.

[timber ridge]

and that corsair keeb is wayyy too much

[deep plinth]

but it makes cool sounds

[deep plinth]

so it's justified

[daring zenith]

uh

what

[timber ridge]

o i forgot, are you opposed to trying open back by any chance

[gloomy berry]

I'm not opposed to it

[daring zenith]

tbh k70 nowadays just look to me like a Keychron C2, except not hotswap, except twice the price, and except non-standard caps >:P

[timber ridge]

58x are pretty nice budget option

[gloomy berry]

I prefer closed back so the sound doesn't bleed to my wife in the same room studying, etc

[timber ridge]

at around 170

[deep plinth]

well it look cool

[timber ridge]

oh, k371 prob will be a better pick for u then

[gloomy berry]

Thanks

[timber ridge]

np

[deep plinth]

facts don't matter in this conversation

only the sights

[gloomy berry]

It' shonestly the only reason I have closed back

[daring zenith]

Nachos' pinned guide says k371 for closed at dat budget so yea

[gloomy berry]

I know open back are typically more clear

[tacit wing]

AKG K duo really your best bet for harman reference

theyre as close as it can get in its price range

[daring zenith]

hmm

[gloomy berry]

THe 702?

[daring zenith]

Keychron c2 non-hotswap is back in stock

[gloomy berry]

K du pdoesn't bring back much, i'll check the chart

[daring zenith]

sad the hotswap isn't back
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-c2-wired-mechanical-keyboard?variant=32312448942169

[tacit wing]

k371/361

[timber ridge]

you cant go wrong with either really

[gloomy berry]

SO the Zen plus either of the AKG's

Ya'll are awesome

[timber ridge]

some ppl like the 371 more others like the 361 more

[gloomy berry]

My home theater game is strong now my PC audio needs to get here too

[timber ridge]

k5 pro is more powerful,but a bit boring imo

[tacit wing]

https://youtu.be/_ZXSN-ZFPkw

[timber ridge]

compared to the zen dac

[tacit wing]

best review of the two products

[timber ridge]

if i sell my phone im copping k371 and sundaras

ez

oh @gloomy berry , jus a heads up, the stock usb cable for the zen dac is a bit short

you may want to invest in a longer cable, depends on your setup

[gloomy berry]

I have extensions

BUt thanks for the heads up

[timber ridge]

then you should be set lol

np

[deep plinth]

usb connections with headsets feel cursed.

Know that feeling you get in an empty multiplayer map?

Yeah that's what I feel thinking about it

[timber ridge]

99% of headsets are cursed

[deep plinth]

steelseries in greek means "scary"

don't fact check that

its true

[gloomy berry]

Mmmm, I like the look of that curve already

[timber ridge]

gonna need an update when you try out your new gear lol

[gloomy berry]

It' shonestly going to be a while

MOtorcycle racing season is coming up

[timber ridge]

oof

being in multiple expensive hobbies>

[gloomy berry]

Yes

I'm picking up our new suspension this weekend. My wallet gonna hate me

[deep plinth]

New peripheral idea

[timber ridge]

my wallet is still recovering too

[deep plinth]

a motorcycle that carries your kb & m everywhere you go

and your computer.

Want to game while signing your divorce papers?

You got it!

Feel bored on a trip?

Play games out the window!

[gloomy berry]

I have luggage on my motorcycle for road trips

Does a laptop count because we do that lol

[timber ridge]

bruh

[deep plinth]

"somehow"

lol

[timber ridge]

still a steal

[tight pulsar]

@gloomy berry how much is a new fork for ur motorcycle

[queen sigil]

just put a 200$ mtb fork on ur motorcycle

[gloomy berry]

Well forks and a rear shock is about $1400

[daring zenith]

just get Forks#7451

[gloomy berry]

Plus i got a new exhaust

And we need tires and tire warmers and maybe brakes

[cunning hearth]

yes big brain

[clear lichen]

Are there any good wireless closed backs for like $150 or less?

I know that's a huge ask

I'm still here with my $25 Nubwo "gaming" headphones that have been nothing but good to me so I don't even know what good sounds like if it isn't this

So I don't need like HD6XXs or anything

though I want some

[timber ridge]

there is bt versions of k361/371 im p sure but i dont now how they compare to their wired variant

if theyre the same then that could be a really good option

[clear lichen]

alright cool lemme look

how do those sound compared to like cheap headphones

for example like the old Apple earbuds

[clear lichen]

because I'm really searching in the dark here

[timber ridge]

imo, theyre one of the best budget close backs

[clear lichen]

alright good enough for me

https://drop.com/buy/drop-wireless-headphones/story

I'd be jumping on these if they weren't $400

[timber ridge]

yea its p steep

[timber ridge]

@queen sigil my kbd67 jus shipped

[queen sigil]

wait

wait

what

proove it

fake news

fake news

lies

[timber ridge]

it didnt deliver

but shipped

[queen sigil]

proove it

BRUUUUUUUUUh

[timber ridge]

tracking number

oops

[queen sigil]

did u dox urself

oh lol

Cancelling your order rn

[timber ridge]

i dont have my kono order tho

[queen sigil]

my friend ordered a lube stations so next week we gonna lube like 120 feker pandas

bruh

i want mine to come in

[stoic solar]

loob

i hope u have fun leyo

will u have fun

[queen sigil]

yes

[stoic solar]

then i hope u have fun

[queen sigil]

whens transparent gonna be shipped

[brisk parcel]

oh god

I listened to wallstreetbets

I bought 50k dogecoin at 2 cents/each this morning

I'm up 4x my profit 👀

daddy elon said to ride it to $1

4x my investment*

[queen sigil]

thats alot of money

is this how ur gonna get ur whatever audio stuff

instead of going viral on tiktok

[sonic oyster]

Guys I bought monitor and have it set up already, but I see there's a usb B port on it and a cable from A to B

Idk what is it for

[ivory ivy]

@thick plank This may be late but what do you think of the 95x overall. Would it be worth the $400 they're charging on Massdrop?

[brisk parcel]

he will say yes

and also recommend a boat load of things outside your price range

told this man my budget was $220 and he recommends a $700 headphone

[ivory ivy]

For real?

Oh so he'll recommend the headphones and then say that I'll need a $1,000 DAC or something along those lines?

[brisk parcel]

I mean estats are different

they require different equipment

he knows more than I do, but I know the 95x comes with all that included

I mean they're worth a shot I guess, never tried them

[ivory ivy]

I know that the 95x needs a certain energizer that comes with it.

[brisk parcel]

but, if you can spend it on other options, there's other things as well which you may enjoy the same if not more

are you more on technical performance or do you just wanna enjoy the music?

[ivory ivy]

I'm looking to get a pair of headphones with the best sound quality possible for all my audio needs.

Gaming, music, all that stuff.

[neon quartz]

Lone_Ninja#0069 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[brisk parcel]

yeah then he'll recommend more than that lmao

95x are entry level estats

they're great on a technical level

but you would ENJOY something like sundaras more

sundaras are like a fantasic headphone for the price

plus can be used on the go if you wanted to, not too horribly hard to drive

they tick all the boxes, gaming, music, movies

95x ARE better, but they have their quirks

for one thing, both sides are controlled with different knobs so the volume could always be ever so slightly off

there is a way to mod that but idk how to do it or what it requires

[ivory ivy]

I've heard of the name. I do have a question for that. I've seen a bunch of posts claiming that the headphone will need an amp and DAC despite the fact they're 32ohm headphones. Would I absolutely need those things or will I get a great sound quality either way?

[brisk parcel]

if you want the best possible ever, you're spending more than $1k easy, just saying

and impedance does NOT equal easy to drive

just FYI, like my 5XX are 22ohm and they need an amp more than my 150ohm 58Xs

and if you're spending $200+ on a headphone, then a dac/amp is recommended

never needed unless it doesn't get loud enough

but, for sundaras, DEF recommended

schiit stack/atom stack are both good entry level there

you would be fine with a modius and a magni/magnius

[queen sigil]

can i have some of ur dogecoin money

[brisk parcel]

if you wanted a better dac which wouldn't be a bad idea

[queen sigil]

jk

[brisk parcel]

if you can hop it leyo, do it

@tacit wing I am developing hifi ears

[queen sigil]

Lol i got no clue how to

[brisk parcel]

because I lost my taste and smell lmao

and it's not too complicated, just do a little research

[ivory ivy]

So what about something like the Meze 99 Classics? Would it be the same case?

[brisk parcel]

Never looked into it tbh

Got a link?

Im on my phone

[ivory ivy]

Sure, let me pull it up. Brb

Oh I can't send links here. Should I just DM it to you?

[brisk parcel]

Yeah

You can DM it to me

Not a problem

[gray onyx]

I got $90 giftcard for https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/productlist.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=-1&isNodeId=1&Description=microphone+boom can someone recommend a microphone and boom?

willing to pay over, thinking the blue yeti and some sort of boom

[calm cobalt]

Can someone help me find a boom arm for my blue yeti? The only problem I’m having is finding a book arm with a large clamp cuz my desk is pretty thick

[queen sigil]

yeah can u like

not spam

thanks

[gray onyx]

is this a good package?

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9siv1689sf5919

[prime brook]

oh shiza, must of happen when i was trying to use my other comp.

[midnight wharf]

What about g413?

[placid dune]

motah just search portable desk boom arm

not all boom arms are clamps

[west hornet]

i prefer the wave over yeti

[lucid thorn]

Gaming toaster when?

[west hornet]

blue compass and rode psa1 are nice arms, or if you can find some neewer one that fits

[rugged lion]

ayo

ikki68 meta?

[cobalt nova]

razer made one a while ago iirc

[cyan basalt]

@thorn grove needs headphone advice

He's eyeing the HD600's right now

[tight pulsar]

GeT tHe 95x ThEyRe ThE bEsT tHiNgS eVeR

[thorn grove]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-hungry-cute-gif-15224193

[queen sigil]

theo shoo

[devout fiber]

hhhhhheeeeadphones arriving today ahasfh

[sly warren]

Start with Koss UR40's if you are on a budget.

HD600s are ok, but HD560S's are cheaper and just as good.

[queen sigil]

why did lance's KBD67 lite have to ship so soon

now I have to wait for mine to ship knowing his is already coming

[latent hull]

I saw that the BL-O5s are on sale on Drop should I get them?

[sly warren]

Eh, they are good, but if you want them faster than abysmal drop shipping, get them off Amazon.

I'd personally go for Tin T2 Plus over BL05

[queen sigil]

I got a shop notification

and I thought it was the kbd67

but it was just a plushie

[latent hull]

The regular T2 are on sale on Amazon

[sly warren]

Those are also good.

[little blaze]

Hi can someone recommend me a good keyboard within a $60 price range? Looking for one that is silent. (For gaming)

[cunning hearth]

keychron c2 red switches

[queen sigil]

legit silent switches are gonna be out of your budegt

if you really need silent youre gonna be stuck with a membrane

gateron red switches arent loud but they arent quiet

[little blaze]

It's unfortunately out of stock on their website.

[little blaze]

It doesn't have to be fully silent. Just not as loud as the current one I have

Anyone else could recommend me something?

[tight pulsar]

get the bl05s cause theyre green

[little blaze]

what brand would that be?

[tight pulsar]

oh no those are iems not a keyboard i was talking to somebody else

[thick plank]

Are you smoking? That literally never happened and I usually recommend headphones well under people's budget like the ur40

[thick plank]

Yes

[little blaze]

oh my bad 🙂

[thick plank]

In tuning the 95x is ahead of those for what most people seem to like along with more detailed, much much much better timbre, much better imaging, and much better comfort. It's the better headphone for enjoyability and the technical side.

[brisk parcel]

well I mean I'm not really smoking, I did tell you that I was buying 6XX and you told me not to because they were "bad" and I said "okay, what's the best I can get for that price range?" and you literally recommended me a can that's 3x the price

[thick plank]

It literally has bars on the volume knob that line up (idk why no youtubers pointed this out) but if you had one you would know that is a non issue (plus it's basically a free amp that is thrown in that actually becomes pretty top tier if you mod it)

[brisk parcel]

I forgot the block function exists

@tight pulsar look what you've done 😂

you've summoned

[tight pulsar]

good

[thick plank]

Please for the love of God also don't recommend magni or modi. They are far behind even the mainstream $100 parts

[brisk parcel]

at least I'm not getting pinged in all my messages anymore

[thick plank]

When did I do this? The 400i is less expensive...

[ivory ivy]

So say that I buy the 95x. I have two questions. 1) I've heard that the build quality is questionable so I'm wondering how long the headphones will last because I don't want to end up buying something that won't work in two years. 2) What DAC would you recommend for the 95x if any at all?

[sly warren]

I wouldn't recommend the 95x in the first place.

What is your budget?

[thick plank]

Build quality in feel is definitely cheap feeling but build quality in how rugged they are is actually really really impressive.

[ivory ivy]

At most, $500.

I won't go over that.

[sly warren]

HD560S's and a Atom Stack

[thick plank]

They are too light to break with a drop and the plastic is not really brittle

[thick plank]

Wtf, just no

[sly warren]

Yes.

[tight pulsar]

maybe

[sly warren]

You are out of your mind if you think that's a bad setup

[thick plank]

That's the worst $100 amp and dac and the 560 is a better tuned 559

[sly warren]

Uhh, No and No

[tight pulsar]

bruh you literally always said how good the atom stack was

[brisk parcel]

here's that little tidbit, by the way

[cunning hearth]

schiit stack better

[thick plank]

Absolutely terrible detail, an okay sound stage, bad imaging

The 560 in no way is a competitor

[brisk parcel]

I

Naed I'm sorry in advance

[tight pulsar]

lol is the atom good or bad

[west hornet]

naed has been away for awhile, probably a job or something

[sly warren]

The Atom is good.

[thick plank]

Probably said that when I was too lazy to look into other cheap amps

[brisk parcel]

yeah true

hope he's doing well

keep up with him in PMs every once in awhile

[thick plank]

Topping kills it and the liquid spark and atom also all round beat it

[sly warren]

And the HD560S's are the next upgrade from the UR40s

And then after that is Sundaras.

[brisk parcel]

@tight pulsar he contradicts himself all the time

I've had enough I just blocked him

[tight pulsar]

didnt the topping stuff get a price jump from tariffs or was that the other models

[queen sigil]

well I don't know what you have rn

[thick plank]

No, they are not. A 400i is cheaper and would all round out perform it

[sly warren]

No they don't.

[thick plank]

The 560 is literally an overpriced 559 with lower low mids

[sly warren]

You are wrong on so many levels

[brisk parcel]

@sly warren dude you're fighting a lost battle

[thick plank]

It is literally just a terrible headset

[brisk parcel]

just don't waste your time

[sly warren]

Alright, Block hammer it is.

Ah, bliss.

[brisk parcel]

so many people just care about measurements

[little blaze]

just a keyboard that has good keys and is less than $60.

[brisk parcel]

that's why I like zeos

[queen sigil]

still doesnt tell me anything

[brisk parcel]

he's actually about how it makes you FEEL and how it FEELS to your ears

[thick plank]

Get the 95x and because the energizer is the same thing as a balanced amp you would just need an rca dac like a liquid spark dac

[brisk parcel]

everyone

everyone's like "ewww 5XX" and I love them

[ivory ivy]

I remember that in one of his videos, he talked about how he hated sound graphs.

[brisk parcel]

i don't even care if it's a wired deva

[queen sigil]

what switches

do you have

is it mechanical?

[brisk parcel]

at least it doesn't have an ugly color scheme

@ivory ivy you still game for the sundaras and an atom/schiit stack?

[thick plank]

Because audio and amp design are a science...

[little blaze]

switches do you mean color or type? Also the keyboard I have is not mechanical. (i dont understand much about keyboards sry)

[sly warren]

Sundaras are great.

[devout fiber]

I am pogging out

[tight pulsar]

just get whatever sounds best ez

[queen sigil]

what keyboard is it

[thick plank]

The reason the magni is worse in detail and dynamics for example is because it has less than half the slew rate of the competition

[ivory ivy]

I'm still thinking about it. That would be about $550 so I'm wondering if it's worth the extra $50.

[sly warren]

It is.

[brisk parcel]

yeah for sure

[thick plank]

Congrats

[sly warren]

Though, you could go for ultra cheap and get UR40s and a Meizu Dong.

[brisk parcel]

don't jump on a system that requires a lot more money in the long run

[queen sigil]

Because I can't say something is quiter than ur current setup

if I dont know what you have

[thick plank]

Nah, liquid spark dac should be $100 and the 95x with the energizer is $390

That should be under 500

[ivory ivy]

That's the thing, I need something that'll last me years and years without any additional costs or headaches.

[little blaze]

its a weird one. Knup KP-2050. Budget one

[brisk parcel]

yeah stick with the sundaras and the stack then

[ivory ivy]

If I'm spending that much money on audio gear, it better last a while.

[brisk parcel]

not that it won't last

[tight pulsar]

the 95x have weak bass right

[brisk parcel]

but it's just entry level for estats which can go for $1k plus

[thick plank]

I mean again, not a single headphone did I feel as if I could throw around as much as the 95x

[little blaze]

brazilian one

[thick plank]

Sub bass rolls off just sheepskin pads fix that although impact is still there

Although my stax sr303 beats it in impact

But not in detail

[ivory ivy]

Out of curiosity, how long have you owned the 95x?

[thick plank]

Years and years

It is why I sold most of my collection like my hd650 and hd700, he5, etc

Literally this is what I kept

[tight pulsar]

didnt they come out in 2019

[brisk parcel]

oops

[thick plank]

@tight pulsar yea, sort of exaggerating but I owned them since near launch

And it has felt like a long ass time

Due to the bs of 2020

But by far the best headphone I have owned in most categories

Like I have had headphones that are better in one maybe 2 categories

[queen sigil]

well I have no clue what that keyboard is

[thick plank]

But nothing is as all round good or non fatiguing

[queen sigil]

and I cant say if itll be quiter or not

[brisk parcel]

@ivory ivy just say screw it bro and jump on the GL2000 hype train

[little blaze]

yeah. tbh the sounds doesnt matter as much. Just one thats nice

[queen sigil]

Then get a keychron c1

with browns or reds

[thick plank]

Oh yea, forgot to mention but the stax sr303 also loses to my 95x in detail

And that's one of the more detail focused stax

[little blaze]

am i able to change the color of the keys? if so how would i do that?

[queen sigil]

You can if you buy the RGB version

[brisk parcel]

dome

done*

[little blaze]

so the c1 rgb backlight gateron mechanical?

[gray onyx]

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-86-847-001 can I boom recommendation that is compatible with this?

[thick plank]

Another pro to the 95x is the paint seems to be the same color as the plastic

[queen sigil]

sure

[thick plank]

So you don't get white spots like sennheisers from scratching

It also doesn't scratch super easily like the 650 and 800

[thick plank]

It's built better than any of the lambda series (by a mile and a half) and it also out performed all the estats I have used so far pretty damn consistently

This is why you don't make claims about parts you don't know anything about to recommend some overpriced sennheiser...

It also out performs all of the stax I have used so far sooooo... That claims just bs

[timber ridge]

yea for the price, thats as good as it gets tbh

[timber ridge]

😎

[queen sigil]

[timber ridge]

its n transit rn

[tight pulsar]

also carmen should be shipping soon yos

[queen sigil]

me when I mix GB items with in-stock items

[timber ridge]

same

and drop has the dx3 pro for under 200

nvm they had it lol

[cobalt nova]

anyone here familiar with different types of switches?

[queen sigil]

depends what you need

[daring zenith]

@devout fiber pls gib opinion on ur40 once you get them, I kinda really want em now...

[timber ridge]

gg

mr1111 falling down the rabbit hole

[devout fiber]

Ok, they arrive later today. In like 3-5 hours

[timber ridge]

@queen sigil

isnt the 8th supposed to be when they ship ur kit

[queen sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404472694122479616/804629171259179048/unknown.png

yes

[timber ridge]

ggs

[little blaze]

Could someone let me know if i can swap out my keycaps with this setup. FYI most other options for this keyboard are out of stock so let me know if you want a link to see which ones are available

[timber ridge]

you can swap out keycaps but not switches

and are you familiar with switches?

[little blaze]

Ok that is fine

[little blaze]

Not really

I understand you need to remove key caps and I need an Mx type key cap for it to work. I think that is correct

[timber ridge]

blue switches are the loud ones

[little blaze]

Oh

Which one would be the least loud ones?

[timber ridge]

either of the other switches

what keyboard do you have rn?

[little blaze]

It's an obscure one. It is from another country. The Knup kp2050. It was a very hasty buy as I didn't want to spend much money

[timber ridge]

is it mechanical ?

[little blaze]

What's a good place to buy new keycaps?

[little blaze]

It is not

[sly warren]

Keycaps are forking expensive

[timber ridge]

so know how when you press a key, you kinda have to get passed a bump ?

[sly warren]

Don't bother buying new keycaps for a cheap board.

[timber ridge]

keycaps can be expensive

[little blaze]

Alright looks like I will be sticking with the keycaps on the c1 🙂 thanks for the info

Is there a difference between brown and red switches?

[timber ridge]

browns will be similar to your current keyboard, there will be a physical bump when the switch actuates

reds dont have that bump, its a smooth press down

[little blaze]

Ok so red is the better one I'm assuming. Any other tips for the keyboard?

[timber ridge]

there isnt no "better" switch, its all preference

[carmine jetty]

I just got a VX2758-2KP-MHD from Viewsonic, which is supposed to offer Freesync Premium. I have an NVidia card and the option to enable G-Sync Compatible monitors is not showing up. Does anybody know a solution to this?

[cobalt nova]

i need to know what kinda switches have a nice drive to them and aren't too loud

[little blaze]

Last question 🙂 what's the difference between hot swappable and mechanical?

[queen sigil]

lol what

what makes a switch "have a nice drive"

[timber ridge]

hotswap keybaords allow you to change the switches

without soldering

kinda like a plug n play thingy

with a non hotswap keyboard, you will be stuck with the switches you picked unless you desolder

[cobalt nova]

i see

[little blaze]

Would either one be good?

[timber ridge]

hotswap would be better if you ever decide to go deeper into the hobbie

[timber ridge]

try #old-monitors-and-tv

[little blaze]

Awesome 😄

[craggy canopy]

Also be careful because some "hot swappable" keyboards arent actually hot swappable

like the k552

[timber ridge]

is the k552 listed as a hotswap keyboard ?

[craggy canopy]

no but it can be hot swapped with outemu switches only

because some reviews say its hot swap

[timber ridge]

outeumu pcbs tend to only work with outemu switches

unless you wanna risk trying to sand down pins on other switches

[craggy canopy]

yeah not for me lol

[timber ridge]

i have a flowchart pinned

for prebuilt buying guides

[cobalt nova]

so would something like this allow me to change the switches https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0875VG9NL?ref=em_1p_9_ti&ref_=pe_27541390_566883910?

[timber ridge]

yep

[cobalt nova]

awesome

thanks

[timber ridge]

if you check the flowchart in the pinned messages, you can see ur hotswap options

[cobalt nova]

ight

[craggy canopy]

is the razer hunstman mini with purple switches good because it has my favorite switch

[queen sigil]

no

[craggy canopy]

aww man

why

[timber ridge]

your favorite switches are razer purples?

[craggy canopy]

yeah

ive tried them before

[queen sigil]

their switches have terrible QC

[craggy canopy]

?

[tight pulsar]

[queen sigil]

the keyboard itself have bad build quality

[tight pulsar]

what other ones have u tried

[queen sigil]

their keycaps are really garbage

in general even if they offered everything

they claim to offer

its still bad value

they just are overpriced

[craggy canopy]

ive tried outemu red, cherry mx red, cherry mx blue, all the razer ones other than red, cherry mx silver speed, choc blues, cherry mx brown

[timber ridge]

is it all plastic ?

[craggy canopy]

its 120 bucks

[timber ridge]

yea its overpriced still lol

[craggy canopy]

well i rlly want those switches

is there any equivalents?

i like clicky and linear

preferably clicky

[queen sigil]

lol those switches are all

pretty bad

[craggy canopy]

huh?

[queen sigil]

you've only tried like the cheapest switches

[craggy canopy]

yeah

[queen sigil]

eg speed silvers, browns ,reds etc

[craggy canopy]

i went to best buy and tried all the ones they have lol

[queen sigil]

and "optical" switches provide no real world advantage

[craggy canopy]

idc about that

[timber ridge]

he can get a durgod hades with box jades but its 150

[craggy canopy]

i just like the fell a lot

[timber ridge]

dunno if its worth at that price

but itll be more worth than the huntsman

[craggy canopy]

mmm thats very expensive

im looking for something max 120

i have a k552 with outemu reds rn

[carmine jetty]

Thanks

[timber ridge]

you can get a k6 and put jades in it

and np

[craggy canopy]

also white

and argb

i forgot that lol

so clicky, white, and argb backlight

those are all the "filters" lol

[timber ridge]

what is the white filter

the color of the keyboard ?

[craggy canopy]

yeah

no the race of the keyboard

/j

[timber ridge]

you can get an anne pro with clicky switches

[craggy canopy]

true

how much does a 68 pack of jades cost

[timber ridge]

depends on where you get it

its like 23bucks b4 shipping n tax on novelkeys

[craggy canopy]

maybe like amazon, kbdfans

oh ok

thx

[timber ridge]

but its sold out

[craggy canopy]

bruh

lol

[timber ridge]

so you might hve to go searching, prices should be around the same

kbd shipping is toxic tho lmao

[craggy canopy]

oh i didnt know

[timber ridge]

20 bucks

[queen sigil]

@timber ridge when was ur order shipped

like yesterday

[timber ridge]

shipped yesterday, in transit today

[queen sigil]

like what time

do u know

[timber ridge]

lemme check email

7:15pm

[queen sigil]

ok

so if i dont get my shipping info tonight

im gonna be sad

[tight pulsar]

kbdfans isnt bad if its an expensive thing cause they upgrade to dhl express sometimes for free

[queen sigil]

last time they just shipped normal fedex

but I mean shipping was still 24USD

so i want that fast shipping

[timber ridge]

im p sure its fedex

[craggy canopy]

Eww fedex

[queen sigil]

my keychron k2 was shipped with DHL

[timber ridge]

yea its fedex

[queen sigil]

I mean not my keychron k2

[timber ridge]

jus checked

[queen sigil]

but a keychron k2 i ordeered

[craggy canopy]

Guys what is the difference between box jades and box whites

[tight pulsar]

spring weight and one might have a thicker clickbar but im too lazy to check

[queen sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651276618651926538/798110984093958144/unknown.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/651276618651926538/705086075428929596/Copy-of-Copy-of-Copy-of-Untitled-Diagram-28-3---02-53-New_Diagram_Untitled_v3-Final-FINAL-EditFinal-.png

pin maybe?

stole from kbdfans discord

[timber ridge]

idk if anyone wants to read that much ngl

[queen sigil]

[timber ridge]

but it would be helpful if they did read it

[tight pulsar]

im not really a fan of the ai03 switch one

[queen sigil]

yeah

doesnt really care about budget

[tight pulsar]

kinda outdated

[queen sigil]

or really like

alot of new options

i feel like the size flowchart is kind hard to follow

but its nice

[timber ridge]

if anything, it may make some ppl even more confused lol

[tight pulsar]

yeah and like half of the tactile/clickies are non mx and most people dont even know what those are

[craggy canopy]

no offence but i rlly dont like tactiles

[queen sigil]

they also dont really take account for lower price switches

[daring zenith]

I like not knowing 90% of the switches

[queen sigil]

they like go straight into 50c switches

[tight pulsar]

lol what switches dont u know

[daring zenith]

@tight pulsar that entire right side is unknown to me

like what's a skcm

[tight pulsar]

alps

hm speaking of alps i should ask mr local alps guy if he has any alps boards he could let me borrow

[daring zenith]

don't know these

[tight pulsar]

okay well the one to the left of the keytronic is a joke

smh you dont even know what an ergo clear is

banned

[timber ridge]

hirose switches lol

[daring zenith]

@tight pulsar didn't see ergo clear lol

I know what ergo clear is

just saw MOD-M, wahtever that is

[craggy canopy]

model m

from ibm

its the first mech keyboard i think

[tight pulsar]

no

[daring zenith]

also I'm not sure about the milky caps

[tight pulsar]

also some of mr local alps guys boards https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390607911677591554/738510298071433246/IMG_20200708_141403.jpg https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/390607911677591554/738509941907783780/IMG_20200708_140623.jpg

[daring zenith]

are they like gateron cap switches?

[little bramble]

What keyboard should I get? Read earlier messages and saw that the c1 was recommended. Shipping is $20. Decided to not get that one. My situation is similar to that of @little blaze . $60 budget

[tight pulsar]

mod m/l are normal switches

[daring zenith]

rip

Keychron so nice

[craggy canopy]

nevger seen those

[royal sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/culture-man-of-culture-cultured-gif-10903367

[timber ridge]

check pinned messages and keychron sells on amazon too

[little bramble]

Yeah those are out of stock :\

[royal sandal]

ofc they are

[tight pulsar]

milky top/black bottoms are just the gaterons that are preferred for sound/feel

[royal sandal]

everything is

dammit

hate 2020/21

[daring zenith]

hm

@tight pulsar what's the new Gateron cap switches about then? what's their difference?

[timber ridge]

better housing

less wobble etc

oof apparently ios has an emergency update

so if you have an iphone, check for an update

[tight pulsar]

i wouldnt really say its a way better housing but its just a different design

[queen sigil]

@tight pulsar are mod switches any good

ive seen them on the mechincal keyboard shop website thing

never hears of anybody trying them

[tight pulsar]

people say theyre nice

kinda expensive last i checked tho

o dang somebody near me has a kingsaver they might sell

[little blaze]

just did some minimal amount of "research". Keyboard size 60% with DSA keys and red switches. Budget of 60$. No prefered material for keycaps. any suggestions?

[daring zenith]

GK61

[queen sigil]

gk61 gateron reds with random chineese keycaps

might be under 60%

[daring zenith]

what caps do gk61 come with, I think cherry profile?

[tight pulsar]

prob oem

[daring zenith]

oem eh

actually what's the difference between oem and cherry, just thickness?

[timber ridge]

ik epomakers gk61 come with xda keycaps

[queen sigil]

oem

[daring zenith]

I mean hkgaming one

[queen sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/404472694122479616/804746009615663134/unknown.png

[little blaze]

gateron optical reds?

[queen sigil]

no

[timber ridge]

thickness sometimes depends on who makes it

[little blaze]

mechanical reds?

[daring zenith]

yea alright looked like just thickness difference to me

[tight pulsar]

thickness has nothing to do with profile you could have .8mm cherry one or 1.5mm ones

[daring zenith]

hmmm

The angling looks like the same to me so I thought it was just thickness

[tight pulsar]

no

lmao the dude with the kingsaver built it with skcm neon greens

dude didnt need to flex a meme build that hard

[timber ridge]

got a buyer for my old phone

if things go thru looks like ima be getting sundaras lol

[tight pulsar]

nice

[craggy canopy]

the way the keycaps are sunk in remind me of membrane keyboards lol

[tight pulsar]

man this board is a hard flex

for context thats like the first custom keyboard ever and those switches are like $10 a switch rn

[craggy canopy]

woah

[craggy canopy]

whats a good hot swappable white argb keyboard under 90 dollars

[queen sigil]

White ARGB?

[craggy canopy]

no

[tight pulsar]

its white with rgb

[craggy canopy]

white keyboard with argb

the anne pro 2 is slightly above my porice range

nvm lol

on newegg it does for 79

[tight pulsar]

also lmao some dude bought a jane v2 ce at 5500 and tried to flip it for 6500 but ended up selling it for 5k

[timber ridge]

oof

and anne pro isnt hotswap

[queen sigil]

I dont know any keyboard thats white hotswap

besides like the GMMK

but i wouldnt recommend that

[craggy canopy]

the anne pro 2 is hot swappable right

oh not the one im looking at

[timber ridge]

gk61 im p sure

kemove has one too but it has an ugly boarder

[craggy canopy]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R1PZRKH/ref=twister_B07PRD1Z3S?_encoding=UTF8&th=1 so this one is hot swappable

just making sure

im considering putting in Kailh BOX Jades

[tight pulsar]

uh dont pick optical

but yeah as long as you pick one that doesnt say optical you should be fine

[craggy canopy]

oh actually imma use kailh box whites

oh

i can get an anne pro 2 with box whites lol

ok so actually

wait

lol.

yeah imma get an anne pro 2 with kailh box whites

[granite furnace]

if you know what you want/like and do not plan to change out the switches, there's no point in getting hotswap. it's not worth it.

[craggy canopy]

ik

[queen sigil]

just saying people tend to grow out of clicky switches

so keep that in mind if you arent going for hotswap

[tacit wing]

if you are going to be 12 years old forever, you wont grow out clicky switches

[timber ridge]

clickys are nice, but i dont know if i can have them on my main board

[queen sigil]

clickys are nice but I like listining to the music while playing osu

and just hearing things in general

[sand igloo]

is the corsair hs45 headset good?

[sly warren]

No

It's trash.

Like, not even just dumpster trash, it's landfill trash.

[sand igloo]

wow

[sand igloo]

how so

[sly warren]

99.99% of Headsets are landfill trash.

[sand igloo]

?

[sly warren]

The audio quality of 99.99% of headsets is so abysmally poor for Gaming it isn't even funny.

[neon quartz]

Skiptrace#4386 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[sly warren]

Reee

[sand igloo]

dang

regardless thanks for the heads up

[sly warren]

Bot, I didn't duplicate any text!

Step 1 to "Skiptrace's Budget Audio for Gaming"

https://www.amazon.com/Koss-UR40-Collapsible-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B00006JILE/ref=sr_1_1

These headphones are already better than 99.99% of "Gaming Headsets"

[sand igloo]

oh okay

they look horrendous though

[sly warren]

Who TF cares how they look when they are sat on your head, where you can't see them.

And they are light as a feather.

[tight pulsar]

grr i hate when you can only buy switches in packs of 70+

[sly warren]

But they deliver kick-butt sound and have downright scary good positional accuracy.

[sand igloo]

good to know

[sly warren]

For the longest time I blamed Rainbow 6 Siege's audio engine for the audio problems I had.

It isn't Siege, It's the gear.

Step 2: https://www.amazon.com/Meizu-MasterHIFI-Converter-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B08H89VZKQ/ref=sr_1_5

This little DAC.

Is so amazing

(If you have no USB-C ports, https://www.amazon.com/Elebase-Upgraded-Connector-Chargers-Interface/dp/B07LF72431/ref=sr_1_5)

It gets LOUD though, so be ready to adjust your volume.

This little USB-C DAC can pump out enough oomph to drive 300 Ohm cans without breaking a sweat.

[sand igloo]

hm

[sly warren]

And can almost drive some 600 Ohm cans.

If you are on an ultra-budget, you can substitute the Meizu Dongle for the Apple USB-C to 3.5mm adapter.

It just doesn't have as much oomph

Step 3: You have 2 mic choices, maybe 3 after I buy a cheap lav mic to test it.

Option 1: https://www.amazon.com/Samson-Mic-Portable-Condenser-Microphone/dp/B001R76D42/ref=sr_1_4

Great little portable mic that works excellently.

[sand igloo]

i've seen that one before

[sly warren]

Option 2: https://www.amazon.com/Antlion-Audio-Attachable-Noise-Cancelling-Playstation/dp/B07YN25KWN/ref=sr_1_3

[sand igloo]

i've heard good things

[sly warren]

A classic that works great.

If you get the Modmic, you will also want https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087CQM8KK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 to combine the Modmic and UR40's into 1 "cable" and plug it all into the Meizu Dongle.

That's my 3 step process to Cheap Gaming Audio that doesn't blow chunks.

And it'll beat basically any headset.

There's a few outliers, like the Audeze LCD-GX "Headset"

But the LCD-GX is also 900 USD

[sand igloo]

wow

that was comprehensive

thanks @sly warren

[sly warren]

NP

If you want an upgrade to the Headphones, your next step up is either the HD 560S's from Sennheiser, or the Hifiman Sundaras.

The Sundaras will want a DAC and Amp stack though.

[sand igloo]

i'd like to keep those links for future reference, could you post them in one message?

[sly warren]

I tried that already...

The bot wasn't happy.

[sand igloo]

oh yeah

[sly warren]

Just open all the links and bookmark them in your browser or something.

[sand igloo]

alrighty

how do you feel about the razer kraken x headset?

[sly warren]

See previous statement of: 99.99% of Headsets are trash.

[sand igloo]

noted

i gotta put all of these items on a saved list

[sly warren]

The only remotely "Ok" headsets are

Sennheiser X Drop PC37X/PC38X
Audeze LCD-GX

[sand igloo]

i'm not a huge audio buff honestly

i'm not as particular with my audio quality as you are

so the "ok" headsets would probably sound great to me

[queen sigil]

[west hornet]

Too many amazon link

[queen sigil]

@west hornet have u seen hazbin hotel

[calm cobalt]

is there a large difference between keychron k8 and c1?

[west hornet]

S1 when

[errant falcon]

does anyone know of any good usb c wired headphones?

using it on my phone

[timber ridge]

meizu dongle is a really good dongle thats better than the onboard audio on most phones

[timber ridge]

wireless vs wired

[queen sigil]

K8 for high end C1 for budget

K8 has an aluminum option

id say either get the aluminum one or go for a c1

[vagrant thunder]

hello, should i get the HyperX Cloud II or the Astro a50?

[timber ridge]

cloud 2

[vagrant thunder]

thx

[timber ridge]

if youre willing to spend more, id look at pc37x/38x if you need a headset

youd probably benefit more from a standalone mic and headphones

[sly warren]

One problem with Android devices and USB-C Dongles/Headphones. You have to use "USB Mode" which bypasses the Android Audio Stack, otherwise Android uses the crappy DAC built into your phone. I'd skip USB-C/Wired headphones on Android unless you have a large MP3/FLAC collection.

[errant falcon]

well

[sly warren]

Well nothing.

USB-C audio out of most Android devices sounds like utter buttcheeks

[daring zenith]

Hm

[sly warren]

Unless you get an App that supports USB Mode audio

[sand igloo]

seconded, usb-c audio doesn't sound as nice as audio from the 3.mm jack

especially with android devices

sometimes they won't even connect

[sly warren]

Trust me Dallas, I found this problem first hand and have experienced it with 2 USB-C DACs.

They worked flawlessly on Windows, and blew chunks on Android without using USB Mode

[errant falcon]

then what is suggested for earbuds

i already asked in #general-chat but it kinda blew up

40$ budget

[daring zenith]

If yams gets back to me and says ur40s are good, I'm prob going to try Meizu dongle+ur40 on my pixel 4, and then compare to on laptop, and then compare with Fulla

[errant falcon]

I just rather have earbuds because i dont like being in publiuc with overears

[swift lantern]

raise that budget by $5 friend get the tin hifi t2

[errant falcon]

where would you get those?

[timber ridge]

he can get blon 05s rn

on drop, but shipping time isnt so epic

[errant falcon]

anywhere but amazon]

XD

[swift lantern]

oh

well what's the difference between 05 and 05s again anyway

[errant falcon]

https://drop.com/buy/blon-bl-05s-iem

neat

Estimated ship date is Mar 5, 2021 PT.

what the

nvm

[swift lantern]

who knows why they ever went with that seafoam green

[errant falcon]

im good

XD

anything else?

[swift lantern]

linsoul has them too

[errant falcon]

link?

[timber ridge]

its on amazon too but more expensive

[swift lantern]

https://www.linsoul.com/products/blon-bl05s?_pos=3&_sid=aa02e09b7&_ss=r

[errant falcon]

50$

hmm

[errant falcon]

screw amazon

they take 14-18 business days to ship to me

even with prime

[swift lantern]

I've never gotten something from linsoul

oh wow it has a with mic variant too wth

[timber ridge]

stock cable isnt the best tho

[errant falcon]

stock cable?

meh

[swift lantern]

it's probably ok

[errant falcon]

im so confused

[swift lantern]

it has a 2 pin, replaceable cable

[errant falcon]

i wish I knew shipping time

then yeah ill find a better cable later on

or something

this is temp till have extra money

[timber ridge]

uh, you dont need to replace cable tbh

unless youre looking for a balance cable

[swift lantern]

it's 32 ohms, not necessary

108db/mw too, definitely not necessary

aliexpress has them for $40.48 rn

but that would be long shipping

[errant falcon]

not doing them

i dont trust ali express

[swift lantern]

[errant falcon]

im waiting on seeing if my mom needs money

before I pay

since it leaves me with 15$

[errant falcon]

https://www.linsoul.com/products/blon-bl05s?variant=35978993500315

getting those

with mic

since i use a mic alot

Bought them

[west hornet]

nice i think nachos has

[errant falcon]

IDK when they'll be here

For Standard Shipping, it takes about 2-3 weeks for items to be delivered after shipping out.

Oh balls

Ah well I guess deal with it

[calm cobalt]

idk i was thinking of souping up a c1 and spending less money

[timber ridge]

prob the better way to spend ur money

the alu bumpers is really jus aesthetics, sound sig wont sound dif bc its not a full alu case

[calm cobalt]

are hot swappables worth it if you already like the switch?

like i've tried gateron browns before

they feel pretty nice

and i like em

[timber ridge]

if you dont plan on switching them or trying something new in the future then its not really worth it for a prebuilt

[calm cobalt]

coolio

c1 it is

[timber ridge]

there is a lot of different switches tho

[calm cobalt]

well the c1 prebuild has gateron red brown and blue

and i think i like browns the most

[timber ridge]

if you dont plan on swapping switches, no reason to get a hotswap

[errant falcon]

They're chinese

also dont like how it goes to

[errant falcon]

im not doing it becuase of the ship time

well if they cancel before shipping

yeah

but if not then ill deal with it

[timber ridge]

biggest downside to linsoul is shipping times

[errant falcon]

they're from china

what do you expect XD

i shouldve used amazon

since they have an amazon usa stowre that ships from amazon

[timber ridge]

amazon is my go to

[errant falcon]

https://www.amazon.com/Earphone-Carbon-Diaphragm-Dynamic-Detachable/dp/B08G8FSM7F

[small nimbus]

lance a jeff bezos simp

[errant falcon]

same price as I just paid

[small nimbus]

[errant falcon]

now i gotta wait for them to either cancel

@small nimbus hellooooooo

long time no see

[timber ridge]

cant even argue

[errant falcon]

meh

[swift lantern]

please do not

[errant falcon]

what

[swift lantern]

I would unironically rip jeff bezos in half with my bare hands, had I the opportunity

[small nimbus]

monkaS

[small nimbus]

elon is so daddy though

[timber ridge]

elon not shipping my packages tho

[swift lantern]

I would use his skull to play tennis

https://youtu.be/OVKfSF3j8vI?list=TLPQMzAwMTIwMjEx8HY2no90_g all billionaires within a 5 mile radius to me just hear this in the background

[tight pulsar]

the only person i simp is kevin lim

[timber ridge]

sounds familiar

[swift lantern]

twitch co founder?

[small nimbus]

just chatting favourite cattegory ?

[tight pulsar]

no linworks

[swift lantern]

who

[west hornet]

amazon evil

[tight pulsar]

kevin has very good quotes

[errant falcon]

lets hope these headphones will be good

[swift lantern]

if they are then I again say tin hifi t2

[timber ridge]

@tight pulsar you see jtk classic retro?

[tight pulsar]

those the cyrillic ones?

[timber ridge]

yup

[tight pulsar]

id rather get crp r4

you can get the alphas for just like 40 and with mods for like 80-120

[timber ridge]

last jtk set i saw they gave a free set of extra alphas for free

wonder if theyll do the same

[tight pulsar]

probably not

[timber ridge]

yea prob not

[cobalt nova]

how're the headphones so far

[devout fiber]

I still gotta try them

Eeeeee

[atomic canopy]

Hey, i currently use a dell laptop that doesn't have a display port in it, but i wanna connect another dell monitor to it. Can anyone help? If anyone needs pics of it dm me for em.

[daring zenith]

yams tell me how they go

[devout fiber]

so far

listening to a song

and its ok

[daring zenith]

flac?

or youtube

[devout fiber]

idk itunes lol

itunes dont have best audio right?

[daring zenith]

dunno

who knows

[devout fiber]

any audio file i can listed to to test how good the sound is or sum

[daring zenith]

dunno

I can paste random flac files I stole if you want

[devout fiber]

hold on lemme listen to another song maybe play a gaem

sure one or two

[cobalt nova]

what are the ports on it?

[devout fiber]

and so far,

• i really like the over ear, i didnt have it before, obviously
• fairly comfy, was afraid they'd be too small, cause i like big headphones, but these are nice, and fit my head well.
• can tell a difference between these and my earbuds, sound... different, not a bad thing though

better, definitely, but, definitely was just a suprise

im not sure how to describe

its nice that i cant hear my keyboard when theres noise coming through these though lol

[daring zenith]

lol

hm

[devout fiber]

i can't hear your flac files btw

[daring zenith]

download them @devout fiber

[devout fiber]

nvm

im just dumb

had discord muted LMAO

[daring zenith]

lol

I think discord might compress them..?

do try to download and play later

[devout fiber]

yknow what

i think i just have bad ears, lol

[cobalt nova]

headphones are too good your ears are creating a bottleneck

smh

[devout fiber]

or maybe its my headphone jack extender

[tight pulsar]

join kuzu in the bad ear gang

[devout fiber]

think it could be that?

they uhh

were $1.87 from china

[atomic canopy]

nvm i asked someone else and i got it to work

thanks tho

[daring zenith]

I mean

my ears are p bad too

[timber ridge]

kuzu syndrome

[devout fiber]

its not the extender

cant tell difference with or without

[daring zenith]

hm

[devout fiber]

i really just think its my ears, lol

man, im bad at everything, even bad at hearing

[daring zenith]

nah man

@devout fiber maybe it's the headfones

[devout fiber]

dont see why it would be

[daring zenith]

maybe they're not that good

[devout fiber]

you mean

gasp

people lied?

[daring zenith]

People don't usually lie on purpose, it might just be a huge difference to them and not to us

[devout fiber]

yeah, maybe

[daring zenith]

anyways

[devout fiber]

but, im going to keep them, I like the feel

[daring zenith]

I'll still be looking into getting one, mostly for being able to use usb-c for my fone

so I can be in bed watching anime with headphones >:D

[devout fiber]

theyre not bad for $31 if you get em, probably worth the whole $31

[daring zenith]

When I go for one, I can prob figure out if
a. Your ears aren't bad, just headfone bad
b. My ears also bad
c. Meizu dac bad
d. You got a manufacturing defect

[tight pulsar]

i think he should of got the 95x instead

[daring zenith]

@tight pulsar wat r those

[devout fiber]

maybe my ears are damaged from the almost year of apple earbud use

[timber ridge]

ask fortnut

[tight pulsar]

@daring zenith bruh u know the headphone fortnut always talks about

[daring zenith]

no

@tight pulsar I know they talk about it, but not actually which headfones they are

[timber ridge]

koss

[devout fiber]

?

[daring zenith]

I always thought sennheiser because like
6xx 560s etc

[timber ridge]

yup

[tight pulsar]

yeah

[devout fiber]

theyre $390

[daring zenith]

wow