peripherals-and-displays

[tight pulsar]

its like xda

[timber ridge]

oh ok

[tight pulsar]

its a flat profile

[cunning hearth]

I keep forgetting what these profiles look like

[timber ridge]

i could probably adjust to xda, but i wouldnt wanna switch between cherry and xda on the daily

[cunning hearth]

can one of u post that image of the profile comparisons

[queen sigil]

damn i like that bottom one

where can i get that

[cunning hearth]

Lmfao

Might wanna try kat

[timber ridge]

kat has really nice kits and theyre p cheap

[cunning hearth]

Any good purple ones?

[tight pulsar]

hm none of those have cherry r5

sad

[timber ridge]

most recent purple ish one was kat lala i think

eh

not a fan of the alphas color

you can get white alphas tho

[thick plank]

58x is a 559 with no sound stage or imaging at double the price

Fr is the same as a modded 559 too other than bass

No, 880 is a beyer without detail but still harsh highs and with poor directional imaging along with a meh soundstage (about on par with the cheaper 400i) and some really inaccurate mids and a good bit of bass rolloff

It's just bad all round

The one redeeming factor it has another headset that beats it in the rest is also on par for cheaper

Again, avoid those cause those are both overpriced yet poor sounding cans. If you want something that is an all rounders of an upgrade (other than mid accuracy where the 6xx would be slightly better) get a 400i or if you can go used an sr5

Both the 250 and 600 ohm are easy to drive. The 600 ohm is just lower distortion

[timber ridge]

ive seen the 400i 2020 go on sale for as low as 140ish

if i see it happen again,ill prob pick them up over 6xx

[thick plank]

Schiit is the highest distortion and lowest dynamic range low end stack but topping or jds or the liquid sparc definitely will be good

Just worse build quality

[cunning hearth]

Oooooh

Link?

[timber ridge]

https://kono.store/collections/all-products-list/products/kat-lala

look at the price lol

kat op

[cunning hearth]

WHAT

HOW

It so cheap

Wait but thats a gb lol

Hm the base dont come with 65 modifiers tho

[west hornet]

all headphones suck lets just use tin can with string

[cunning hearth]

XD

[timber ridge]

the gb for it is over

[thick plank]

@timber ridge in regards to the heresy question

[timber ridge]

p much jus extras now

[cunning hearth]

Is lower score or higher better

[thick plank]

Higher

[timber ridge]

its unfortunate that the heresy is black and red

[thick plank]

Heresy you can also move straight to max volume on low gain

[timber ridge]

i much prefer the clean silver colorway

[cunning hearth]

I think it looks good

[thick plank]

And distortion keeps actually going down as you up volume on it

[tight pulsar]

if you dont like it just get the 3+ the worlds not gonna end :v

[timber ridge]

its not bad looking, jus prefer silver more

but i prob wont stare at it, so ill jus pick up the heresy

[cunning hearth]

Lol

[timber ridge]

so tragic that i ran into issues with my zen dac

i got a taste of what music could sound like then bam

static

[thick plank]

Atom is still better for most of the volume capability range

[magic iris]

pog

joshua new vid 700$ stareter audiphile did u watched it

i thought pbt was better but idk

[magic iris]

LMAO

apple

[tight pulsar]

pbt isnt better or worse than abs theyre just different

[cunning hearth]

Different type of plastic

[thick plank]

It wasn't a really good video

For $700 you can get a 95x with a good dac and even mod it

Or a sundara with a a balanced dacamp and a balanced cable

[timber ridge]

a50/50s is p tempting ngl

[tacit wing]

i wouldnt trust topping amps atm with all this news of it killing cans

[tacit wing]

its a great midfi starter that is very futureproof in amplification

[timber ridge]

yea its a bit over budget

ima stick with the heresy and dark modi

[tacit wing]

magnius modius stack can drive whatever TOTL down the line when you keep adding more cans to your collection

[timber ridge]

for some reason i thought the magnius was 250

[tacit wing]

we see time and time again how 6xx/600/650 has always been in someones rec after even more than 20 years of it existing bc it trades blows with TOTL cans in the midrange for a midfi price tag. some people just dont see that value proposition bc they simply dont care for value

[thick plank]

Just no, you are giving bad advice there

[tacit wing]

see it for yourself

there has been news lately

[thick plank]

A50 is one of the best measuring dacs for cheap and amps don't kill cans unless they offer too much power and you max them and it tears the diaghram

[thick plank]

How many times do I need to point out this isn't true either

[magic iris]

LOL

[thick plank]

It is bottom tier in everything but mids where it is just worth the $200 it cost

[magic iris]

thats dinos point tho

[thick plank]

Not a penny more

[tacit wing]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-wall-gif-5021467

[magic iris]

some idiot (like me ) is gonan max the power

and boom

[timber ridge]

oh dino the reddit post you sent me about the l30 blowing up, the dude said he heard some static probs b4 it blew up

[magic iris]

can go boomb boom

[timber ridge]

what if my zen dac was gonna blow lmao

[thick plank]

It doesn't offer that much power

[timber ridge]

a50s is p powerful tho

[thick plank]

Uts powerful ish for a headphone amp at the price

Ain't gonna break even an earbud though

[timber ridge]

true, for its price its p powerful

[thick plank]

And doesn't offer enough voltage to do so either

[timber ridge]

and size

its pretty small considering how much power its capable of

[thick plank]

Issues occur more when you hook a sensitive headphone up to a high end speaker amp

And max that

[swift lantern]

I have never in my life seen so much copium

[west hornet]

my grandmas washer machine didn't have much power, still wonder how it blew up

[last plinth]

should i put the wireless receiver in 3.1 usb

[magic iris]

LOL

[west hornet]

ye that was a fun day, im no engineer but id just guess that some regulator broke

[timber ridge]

overclocked the washer machine

[west hornet]

ye a bit too much xD

[tacit wing]

can it still run cyberpunk or naw

[west hornet]

it ran cp at 500fps for about 3 seconds until bye bye

[strange ridge]

@timber ridge what was that phone you said a pro version was coming out xiaomi what?

[timber ridge]

mi 11

[strange ridge]

I'm looking a the oneplus nord n10 that's coming out with t-mobile and wanna compare

Gracias

[timber ridge]

youre in the us right

[strange ridge]

Yessir

[timber ridge]

its a china phone so lte bands might be wonky

and importing too

[strange ridge]

Yeah that's why I wanted to compare it to the oneplus coming out with t-mobile

I also already have a huawei so i know the risk of the china phones

[timber ridge]

isnt the n10 gonne be like 400 max ?

[strange ridge]

299

[timber ridge]

mi 11 pro is on the other end of the spectrum

[strange ridge]

How so

Cost wise

[timber ridge]

its a flagship

full on flagship

[strange ridge]

Ah gotcha

[timber ridge]

i think the mi 10i is the budget phone

wdy?

mi 11 pro is gonna be expensive tho

if you live in china yea

its gonna cost a bit more to import

im also p sure its a china release and not a global release so it may not support most of the NA lte bands

[strange ridge]

Oof

[timber ridge]

its not a matter of how much your plan has, its the bands it supports

youre gonna get like trash signal etc

wait are you gonna be using this phone in china or the US

[tight pulsar]

magnius/modius worth it over magni/modi for something like sundaras?

[timber ridge]

magni stack will be enough

i personally would take an a50s and its corresponding dac over the magnius and modius

[tacit wing]

both stack figurations are future proofed for further can upgrades

its just the matter whether you want SE or Balanced

TOTL cans benefit from balanced

hell even midfi stuff like Argons

[timber ridge]

man, only if the atom stack was built better

[stuck river]

are 770 pros okay

[tacit wing]

they are... disgustingly v-shaped lol

alot of ppl find the treble peak pretty offensive

[neon quartz]

JULIAN#6637 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[stuck river]

can you put that in stupid i do not understand

[tacit wing]

well um lets see... muddy bass, peaky treble no bueno

these bois have more bass than some dre beats lmao

very saturated v-shape that some people like but thats up to you

[west hornet]

theyre not for everyone

[stuck river]

what are good headphone for gaming

then

[brisk parcel]

@stuck river what's your budget?

[stuck river]

like 200

[brisk parcel]

oh that's easy, do you need headphones or a headset?

[stuck river]

headphones

[brisk parcel]

okay

[stuck river]

i dont like having the mic on it

[brisk parcel]

you've got a few options

do you have a DAC/AMP already?

[stuck river]

no i dont

[brisk parcel]

hmm ok

[stuck river]

i found 990 pros

for 180

90 ohm

80*

[brisk parcel]

lower ohms doesn't necessarily mean it's easier to drive

[stuck river]

oh

[brisk parcel]

for instance

I have 58Xs, rated at 150 ohms, and my he 5XXs, rated at 18 ohms, BUT

my 58X are easier to drive on my phone, on top of the fact that the drivers are closer to my ears which lowers that requirement

so, you may wanna look at sensitivity when you look at headphones as well

sensitivity/sound pressure level, etc. see how much raw power it really needs

and seaking of which

[thick plank]

Yes cause they are balanced and much higher resolution

[brisk parcel]

I was just about to say fortnut would know better about that than me probably

so, buddy, if you want to jump in on that you can

[thick plank]

Terrible and bottom tier

[brisk parcel]

now @stuck river back to you

since you don't have a DAC/amp, are you planning to run off of your mobo's sound? sound on your front panel? etc

[thick plank]

They aren't good for gaming either and aren't even really detailed

[stuck river]

i think

[thick plank]

They are congested and fatiguing with phasey mids

[brisk parcel]

you think? which one

mobo or front panel?

[tacit wing]

my bar for gaming in audio is probably non existent

[stuck river]

what is mobo

[brisk parcel]

motherboard

[tight pulsar]

motherboard

the rear io with the usb ports and everything

[thick plank]

Ohms doesn't mean anything unless talking distortion values

[brisk parcel]

haha I beat you

[stuck river]

okay

is that for usb

[thick plank]

A 1 ohm headset can be 10x harder to drive than a 600 ohm one

[stuck river]

or like that circle thingy

[brisk parcel]

I know, I was explaining that to julian lmao

[thick plank]

Avoid those especially

[stuck river]

okay

[tight pulsar]

wait do they make 1ohm headphones

[thick plank]

990 are just torture

[brisk parcel]

@stuck river usually the circular connector, 3.5mm as it's commonly called

[stuck river]

okay

[thick plank]

And nothing about them is really redeeming

Okay imaging is about it

[brisk parcel]

what board do you have?

do you know?

[thick plank]

Although if you plan to go really high end skip the magnius

Cause reviewers oversold the power it can provide

[tacit wing]

DT Treble Peaks

[thick plank]

It can be maxed at low gain with an hd800

Which isn't that hard to run

[tight pulsar]

if youre talking to me i was probably just gonna grab a sundara or something similar

[thick plank]

So an he6 just won't go with it

@tight pulsar those are easy to drive

You will be fine

[brisk parcel]

@stuck river you may have missed my comment, what board do you have? if you don't know I can help you find it

[tight pulsar]

also if yall want something pinned here just ping me

[stuck river]

i do not know

[cyan basalt]

I just bought Audio Technica r70x on Thursday, no regerts

[stuck river]

im on dads pc and its a prebuilt

[brisk parcel]

okay, so if you type "system information" in the taskbar where you search for programs

you can find it in there

[thick plank]

6xx are overpriced bottom tier headsets and 58x are that without detail or the mid accuracy

Pin that @Nuclear Nachos#9402

Lol

And this

[brisk parcel]

@stuck river

should be there

[thick plank]

All beyer headsets are garbage relying on people wanting detail and not knowing planars or estats exist

Pin that too

Lol

[stuck river]

0NWN7M

[brisk parcel]

hmm, okay lemme look

what brand of prebuilt?

[stuck river]

ALIENWARE

[thick plank]

I wonder how thick the mylar the 95x uses is

[brisk parcel]

oh god it's an alienware 👀

lmao sorry had to for the lolz

anyway

the onboard on it is pretty average, for onboard sound

[thick plank]

Also just confirmed and it is using the same pcb as the esp950

So no energizer change between them

So the same opamp mod will work with both

[brisk parcel]

so you should be able to run your cans pretty okay-ish, but we gotta pick cans now

and you may still want to invest in a dac/amp in the future

you would really enjoy he 4xxs probably, 400is are a good option too. I personally love my 58Xs still, but some people don't, on here it's mostly fortnut who doesn't, so that's your choice there.

[stuck river]

i know

i told my dad not to get it he dont listen

[brisk parcel]

what about the prebuilt?

as in, that's what you told him not to get?

[thick plank]

Literally anyone in any server audio related who isn't new to the hobby will tell you the 58x is bad

[brisk parcel]

I mean it's not too bad but the value and what you get just isn't the best

[thick plank]

Cause it is literally a 559 with less imaging and sound stage

It is literally bottom tier in every way

Same fr other than bass mostly too

[brisk parcel]

well, then I wouldn't mind talking to some of them

[brisk parcel]

I was referring to the alienware, I still enjoy my cans a lot and they still sound better to my ears than the 559s, not going into this again

[thick plank]

Also go with the 400i instead of the 4xx

Better headband and less expensive and no massdrop logo

Massdrop is just a scam company now mostly

[brisk parcel]

idk what else to tell you man I'm sorry I really don't, they just sound better to me

okay @stuck river back to you

[cyan basalt]

See if you have any audio stores nearby that have headphone demo areas

[brisk parcel]

so, yeah the 400i are probably your best bet, and @cyan basalt has a good point

it's pretty rare that you would, but you never know

[thick plank]

Massdrop only really has the 95x now

[cyan basalt]

I think there's only one in my state lol, I'm gonna go next week and spend a few hours there during my lunch break

[thick plank]

Everything else is either misadvertised and a scam I just bad value

I sort of wish I waited to sell my hd700

[brisk parcel]

I mean I'm still getting 6XXs because I want 650s lmao

[thick plank]

@brisk parcel dont

It's not good

[tacit wing]

yes

[brisk parcel]

650s aren't good? I really like them too

[tacit wing]

if you value upper mids and vocals BIG YES

[brisk parcel]

I do love both of those

[thick plank]

At anything really other than vocal accuracy and detail they are bottom tier and those they are just worth their money

Nothing else

They aren't good

They are okay at those 2 things

Quickly beat out in both those if you pay a little more

[tacit wing]

not okay theyre excellent at those things

[brisk parcel]

okay, I'll humor you, what do you recommend then? for, say, $250 tops, MAYBE $275

[thick plank]

@tacit wing detail they are worth maybe $100 for so bad value there too

And vocal accuracy there are better cans for barely more too

@brisk parcel if you can go used then sr5

Actually just a great headset all round

Other than the cable

If we include amp price you are saving a good bit

[brisk parcel]

I have an amp already

[thick plank]

If not a 400i

As that too beats the 6xx in basically every category for cheaper

[brisk parcel]

the LD, whatever amp is in the G6 from creative, a scarlett solo(v2 I think)

are the sr5s the best of that bunch?

[thick plank]

By far

If you just want mid accuracy though the esp9 is a great monitor and is like $100 used

[brisk parcel]

just looking for good overall

and okay I'll have a look and see if I can find a pair, not buying yet but I'll keep it in mind

thanks

I know we argue a lot but well, we're both different lmao

oh what brand are the SR5?

[tacit wing]

stax

[brisk parcel]

okay

wait a second

I said my budget was like $275 max

and don't I need the extra equipment for them?

[cyan basalt]

I hear Sundara's get recommended a ton, have you guys had any experience with them?

[tacit wing]

what do u expect from a suggestion from fortnut that isnt an estat or planar

[brisk parcel]

I also have heard good things about them

might see if I can get used sundaras actually

that would also fit my budget

[cyan basalt]

Nice, I'll have to keep an eye out, I think I'm done buying headphones for the year.

I got some Etymotic Er2se's for $60 during a recent sale and have been enjoying them for portable use.

I'm still trying to figure out if I prefer a neutral sound, I feel like I get fatigued with anything V-shaped

[tacit wing]

yessir er2 goated

[cyan basalt]

I'm still getting used to the fit lol

[tacit wing]

its really in there huh, starfields are a great alternative for er2 fans who like the fit

arent the er2's harman-neautral?

[cyan basalt]

Yeah, that's what I've read

I heard good things about starfields and blessing 2's

I honestly used to hate IEM's until I got the etymotic...

I had some chifi one's before and some Pinnacle Px's from massdrop

[tacit wing]

i hated in-ears in general until i got foam tips

[cyan basalt]

Yeah, the etymotic's came with some I think, I'll have to check

[thick plank]

Good iem

[cyan basalt]

I don't think I'll ever be that boujee

I mostly use the IEMs when I'm driving long distance, since it cuts out a lot of the road noise

[small nimbus]

i just use earplugs when driving

i dont have iems

[buoyant steppe]

can i have help?

[small nimbus]

sure

[buoyant steppe]

does the GIGABYTE M27Q 27" 170Hz 1440P support G-SYNC

[small nimbus]

google monitor stats? should say there

[tight pulsar]

so back to the modi stack vs modius, would it be woth it to get a magnius+modi and run se and get a modius later or just stick with modi magni

[queen sigil]

l

[tacit wing]

@tight pulsar it depends on how far you want to go into audio

[tight pulsar]

thatd be where it stops

[tacit wing]

people forget how much power the Magni 3+ has. mf pushes more power than a BHA-1 lmao

[timber ridge]

heresy pushes a bit more if i remember correctly

[tacit wing]

invest in balanced if you plan to get TOTL cans down the line

otherwise, Sundara is fine off a Magni

[thick plank]

Non balanced inputs on the magnius aren't that good

But you could get another balanced dac

[timber ridge]

i was thinking about doing a50 and modi but honestly doubt ill need that much power

[thick plank]

Modius isn't anything special unlike the magnius which is good value

[thick plank]

Issue is it has really high distortion past about 80 percent on low gain

[stoic solar]

jammin

[latent maple]

Hello

[tired solstice]

whatcha doin while you're jammin?

[latent maple]

How do I get warranty for my mouse

?

[stoic solar]

managing some vms

[latent maple]

What?

[west hornet]

usually warranty comes when you register the product on manufacturers website

[tired solstice]

That was good, what else you jammin to?

[stoic solar]

https://soundcloud.com/gudfellaofficial/dreams-x-the-spins-gudfella-edit-1

[latent maple]

Well I contacted the manufacturer and they asked to contact newegg, if newegg can’t help then come back to the manufacturer

I just wanna know if newegg can help

[west hornet]

if its for replacement typically you would contact manufacturer and they would just ask for proof of purchase, the problem, etc. you could dm @fallow glacier and see if they can help you or check out #faqs

[latent maple]

Ok, thanks

[tight pulsar]

eat jean https://www.twitch.tv/pwade3/clip/CoyHilariousChinchillaDansGame

[queen sigil]

pwade def just ate jean

[frail anvil]

What would you run the Corsair K60 or the K95

[queen sigil]

i would rather run away

[frail anvil]

What do you suggest I should run?

[queen sigil]

depends ur budget

[frail anvil]

Ideally not looking to spend more than 150 on a keyboard. Play a handful of games so don't need top of the line

[queen sigil]

How big of a deAL is RGB to you

[frail anvil]

None at all, it's like ricers running underglow

[tight pulsar]

leopold and varmilos are nice

[queen sigil]

Then get a leopold

yes

wow nachos since when did you actively check chat

is this becayse you are mod assist now

[frail anvil]

Will do thank you

[tight pulsar]

no

[queen sigil]

[tight pulsar]

i usually have this chat on my laptop idling while im using my pc

[queen sigil]

bruh

can ur pc not run discord and other stuff

[tight pulsar]

no but when im trying to watch netflix or play celeste or something its easier just to use my laptop instead of switch back and forth between discord

[queen sigil]

far

fair

also the "switch puller" i ordered on aliexpress

is massive

[tight pulsar]

is it the gateron one

[queen sigil]

no

[tight pulsar]

hm mines not that angled that much

[queen sigil]

its liek a really weak finger exerciser

also this switch opener is pretty nice

aluminum

was like 2#

2$

[daring zenith]

gib

[queen sigil]

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001657118015.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3b804c4dJyG7nU

got it from here

[queen sigil]

@tacit wing my brother's headphones are giving like a pain to the ears when listening at high volume

is there like any problem you could think of

like listening to the headphones gives you like sharp ear pain

[tacit wing]

if he specifically used the word "sharp" its most likely the headphone is too bright

[queen sigil]

like its like

actual pain

[tacit wing]

yeah the treble is killing him most likely

[queen sigil]

is there a way to change that

[tacit wing]

what headphone is it?

[queen sigil]

like vmodas

[strange ridge]

treble can hurt you to no more being alive?

[tacit wing]

tell him to play around the EQ for a little and relax the highs a little bit but Vmodas are disgustingly v-shaped

[queen sigil]

@tacit wing plus this is a problem that just startdd happening

[tacit wing]

this treble peak is probably inefficiently killing the man's eardrums overtime lmao idk thats my best guess

[queen sigil]

no its not overtime

i can feel the pain

when wearing them

could this just be like a headphone issue

[tacit wing]

have you told him to try another headphone and see if the problem persist?

if it does something is wrong with him not the headphone

[queen sigil]

hes tried wearing earbuds and ut doesnt feel bad

like even i can feel the pain

when wearing them

[tacit wing]

maybe unit variation can be a factor bc i dont think the treble peak of the vmodas are whats causing it

are the vmodas new? or has he been using it and the pain just showed up one day?

[queen sigil]

its really old

like 4-5 years

and i'm assuming its a hesdphone issue

because again, when listening at high volume even I can feel the pain

[tacit wing]

im assuming its sibilance, but whats weird is that the pain just started recently after 4-5 years

idk if dynamic drivers overtime can build up harsh treble

[queen sigil]

hes looking for like 150$ wireless headphones rn

[tacit wing]

for what use?

[queen sigil]

casual gaming

hes a boomer

and music

[tacit wing]

my top recc of that price bracket would be the AKG N700NC M2 but the issue is that it doesn't connect to your PC out of the box

[queen sigil]

what do you have to do for it

to connect

[tacit wing]

for around that price-bracket, it handles music the best since its not disgustingly v-shaped like majority of wireless headphones

so for convinience, Cloud II's will be your best bet

since you dont want BT latency for gaming

[queen sigil]

@tacit wing do you mean ckoud mix

cloud

[tacit wing]

Cloud II wireless

[queen sigil]

nothing shows up

[tacit wing]

idk some dongle you can get seperate you can get to pair with the N700NC it would be an easy recc. feelsbatman

[queen sigil]

he wants logitech

[tacit wing]

why is he asking you for advice if he already narrowed that criteria?

[queen sigil]

im trying tonget advice for him

[tacit wing]

[queen sigil]

wdym about the nc

[tacit wing]

Logitech headsets are more or less the same. Bloated muddy bass, lack of any presence in the mids, tinny highs and lack of any detail and resolution. He can literally put a blindfold on and choose any wireless Logitech headset for that matter

[queen sigil]

for gaming

[tacit wing]

the thing with the AKG's is that BT latency is insufferable for gaming but since you said he's a boomer he probably wont mind

[queen sigil]

not actually a boomer lol

but ok

do you think itll be a better option to get cheaper headphones and good iems

[tacit wing]

yes and aptx Bluetooth is all bs and doesnt work. 2.4 you need for gaming

its a better option to ditch wireless entirely

whether or not to get IEM's its up to him but if he has a total budget of $150 its best to just focus on one thing to assure he gets a product that isnt booty cheeks

[queen sigil]

hmm

are there any options for like 2.4ghz headphones

like going into 200$

[tacit wing]

most things with a 2.4 receiver are gaming headsets

[queen sigil]

yeah

[tacit wing]

if your friend doesnt really have a high standard for audio im sure he'll be fine with a Cloud II Wireless

not exactly the AKG's i mean its a gaming headset but atleast theyre Takstar drivers

the drivers in the Clouds are better than whatever Logitech put in their cans, probably in-house or some chinese OEM's

[queen sigil]

ok

can u send the flow chart for like

normal headphones

[tacit wing]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WE1ddEKeg9OpD5cxr0vndr-0ZTy7EMk8smAHXuEggic/edit?usp=sharing

@tight pulsar these are some stuff to pin in courtesy a person who has tested/owned more headphones than anyone on here including me

[tight pulsar]

aight

[vernal plinth]

Does the hd440 count as a close back senhizer? Never mentioned

[tight pulsar]

sub $200 headphone buying guide

[cyan basalt]

How loud are you guys listening to music?

Usually it's v-shaped headphones that give me fatigue, but never pain

[west hornet]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[queen sigil]

@tacit wing how is drop shipping

how fast

[daring zenith]

depends on where you are

[tacit wing]

it entirely depends on what product, shipping date is at the bottom of whatever product page

[west hornet]

loudest i listen is about 85dB average maybe mid 70s

[tacit wing]

something that sells like hotcakes wont get to your doorstep in a few months

[queen sigil]

@tight pulsar pin keyboard uni

[daring zenith]

link it tho

[tacit wing]

something thats just sitting on shelves collecting dust will get to you soon

[tight pulsar]

keyboard university - for learning more about keyboards https://keyboard.university/

[cyan basalt]

That's a neat spreadsheet, thanks @tacit wing

[tacit wing]

it is closed, but Sennheiser closed backs are kinda...

[vernal plinth]

Oof

They been good bois

[queen sigil]

were looking at diffent things in the list

but how are the gsp 370

[tacit wing]

epos sennheiser collabs are also...

i mean for gaming its not bad since you dont need a whole lot for gaming

id put my money on pc38x's instead if i was looking for a gaming headset under 200 dollars

but not the EPOS stuff nonono

[queen sigil]

whats the differecence between the 37 and 38x

[tacit wing]

its just a refresh, similar sig

[queen sigil]

we're either looking at like
pc37x
hs70 pro
and going vmoda

we have like a 40$ discount with vmoda since we can do a trade in with his old ones

[tacit wing]

well that is entirely up to you guys but you run the risk of runnin into the same issue in the future if you choose to stick with Vmoda

hey maybe another 4-5 years and it will start to hurt again

[queen sigil]

i mean im pretty sure its just something that happened with his headphones and not him using them

also hows the mic on the pc37x

[tacit wing]

i mean its classic gaming headset mic dont expect much

[queen sigil]

like compared to other gaming headsets

[tacit wing]

well its better than the atrocity that is the blue mic in the G Pro wireless headset

[queen sigil]

eg logitech corsair hyperx

[daring zenith]

decent

[tacit wing]

Leo im not exactly gaming headset expert except i know what drivers are the Clouds and the MH751's which is good

Ghosty is mic man tho im not sure hes headset mic man as well

[daring zenith]

ghosty prob knows

[last plinth]

i have to wait until late jan or feburary for my mouse to even ship

[tacit wing]

well its not exactly Shenzenaudio shipping

[last plinth]

shouldve gotten white

[queen sigil]

is there anything special about the PCV 05

or could any rando ones work just as well

[thick plank]

New stand came in

[queen sigil]

been tryna convince my brother to not go for logitech and corsair headsets for like 2 hours

and got him to the point where hes probs gonna get a 37x

[daring zenith]

@queen sigil tell them pc37x

[queen sigil]

yes

[daring zenith]

tell them it's so good

[queen sigil]

lol I can't tell them how much better it is because I literally use a razer headset

[swift lantern]

removing your money privileges

[queen sigil]

no clue how big of a difference

[daring zenith]

much better than the corsair and razer headset I've tried before

such nice

[queen sigil]

hah, saying that after i got my bruh mat

[daring zenith]

@queen sigil don't buy another board, buy good headphone/headset

[queen sigil]

money well spent

[queen sigil]

also this was like

2020 me

before I knew any audio people

and knew anything about audio

now its 2021

I dont know anything about audio

but I do know the things people recommend alot

[daring zenith]

I don't know anything about audio either

all I know is audio thingies are amazing

[queen sigil]

i mean I might get prota pros with yaxi pads in the future

but meh

my razer headset works

but its still in really nice condition and I could probs sell it to another clueless person

[tacit wing]

the thing with audio is that its not worth investing if you don't care about enhancing your music experience

[queen sigil]

imagine an rgb gaming pc37x

[swift lantern]

disgustang

[tacit wing]

actually i wouldn't mind it so gAmErs can actually be attracted to a decent audio product for once

[swift lantern]

[trim flicker]

Nah, definitely don't care to enhance my music experience, Imma stick to my 30 dollar, 5 year old Logitech and my 30 dollar no name headset so I can spend the money on more important things, like some sweet sweet psu cable extensions that'll aid in my endeavor to have some passable cable management

[stoic solar]

#building-and-recc-chat message

[tacit wing]

this why putting money into peripherals >> pc hardware

giga chad peripheral chat

[trim flicker]

Yeah, wasn't planning to go cheapo on those, not when dealing with the electricity

[swift lantern]

oh great and powerful Lili, do you have Near Equal (2014) by Arlequin

mostly want this song in flac

[stoic solar]

is it weird japan stuff

[swift lantern]

Yessir

[stoic solar]

then no

[swift lantern]

[tacit wing]

kuzu how do you have the perfect emotes to everything

[swift lantern]

Why are all there other albums in Flac but not this one

[stoic solar]

that album sux

[swift lantern]

But Zou is good

[stoic solar]

do i need to check trackers for you again

tfw nothing

suffer

[swift lantern]

Whyyyy

[stoic solar]

stop liking niche stuff

[swift lantern]

How much is the dang CD

[stoic solar]

join me in being based and charlipilled

[swift lantern]

No

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-do-it-myself-gauntlet-gif-10358403

[stoic solar]

https://soundcloud.com/dj-victor-borge/boom-clap-but-every-word-is-its-charli-baby

listen

its so funny

[swift lantern]

Does It matter what cd ripper I get as long as it works

[stoic solar]

i dont rip cds

[swift lantern]

Im going to assume it doesn't and get the 2nd cheapest

[stoic solar]

oh like

u mean cd drive?

[swift lantern]

External yeah

[stoic solar]

i thought u meant program

and was like

alcohol

idk make sure it doesnt have drm

i know some bluray rippers do

[swift lantern]

I already know what to do software side, its super ez

[stoic solar]

alcohol 120%

[swift lantern]

They figured out how to bypass all that

[stoic solar]

yea babey

like some drives have drm built in

on some firmwares

[swift lantern]

Yes they figured out how to bypass it

That's probably why there was a huge explosion of 4k stuff like a year ago

[stoic solar]

nah that was always open

[swift lantern]

But I was just gonna do cds anyway

[stoic solar]

i just dk about cds

[swift lantern]

Cds don't have jack

They are easy I've done it before

But I can't use my internal anymore cuz my case doesn't allow it

[stoic solar]

ezpz

doesnt matter then

[swift lantern]

There's a cd ripper for literally $18 on amazon I see

[stoic solar]

easy

[swift lantern]

Wth does type a vs type b mean

Oh it's like editions

$66

[swift lantern]

[west hornet]

Hmm illegal activities in here?

[tight pulsar]

no

[west hornet]

Speakers or piano which do I get

[cunning hearth]

piano

why do u need speakers if u have headphones

[west hornet]

wearing them so long each day ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[last plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrpEIw8IWwk

8k PogU

[timber ridge]

upscale and sharpening

[verbal vector]

Hey, any good mouse and keyboard for gaming for about 200-300 total

[timber ridge]

do you know your hand size/grip type

[timber ridge]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=110292.0

this looks p nice ngl

[queen sigil]

bluetooth

[queen sigil]

if you want recommendations you need to tell us the info

but for keyboards keychron, varmillo, and leopolds all work great

[timber ridge]

bt keeb op

no wires

bruh

did you read his message

[verbal vector]

Sorry, my hand is medium size and palm grip

[daring zenith]

hm

G pro ultralight maybe

and then a Keychron keeb

[timber ridge]

superlight is better for claw/f tip grip

[daring zenith]

hm

thought it was palm, since it had bump

[timber ridge]

you rest your palm on it with claw grip

claw is palms rested with your fingers kinda hunched over

palm is like full contact

[daring zenith]

(Yea I thought the hump made it better for claw and palm)

[tacit wing]

it is

humps arent everything tho, it just makes it easier. FK clones are considered flat mice but claw and palm is doable tho itd be best to get something humpier

[cunning hearth]

humpier

[timber ridge]

i was thinking something more ergo shaped would be nicer for palm

[tacit wing]

correct

[timber ridge]

wish wireless light ergo mice were more common

[tacit wing]

Hati S Wireless is coming and it might be endgame

basically a mini GPW wireless

[timber ridge]

glad i didnt insta buy the mow

i almost did when preorders came out

[tacit wing]

o your wallet wouldve thanked you if you got the MOW

[daring zenith]

insta mow

[tacit wing]

the wired Hati S is already 80 bucks

[cunning hearth]

mow is pog

[timber ridge]

if i got the mow, then it wouldnt be possible to pick up an a50s

[cunning hearth]

well

true

[timber ridge]

atleast rn

[cunning hearth]

bloody left click sound like coin

[timber ridge]

oof

[cunning hearth]

ping ping ping ping ping

when i play mc lol

[tacit wing]

they're aiming for Logitech's head

[cunning hearth]

56g?!

[timber ridge]

same dimensions as the non wireless?

[cunning hearth]

jeez

[tacit wing]

i mean yeah its smaller and its got holes on it

[cunning hearth]

looks too small for me

[timber ridge]

razer needs to hurry up and drop the viper mini ultimate

[tacit wing]

theoretically, ftip users can use any shape they want considering the only point of contact are literally their fingertips, but generally its best to get small mice for them to narrow your fingers down together. this mouse will be a ftip/claw dream

razer and logi makes light mice for people who CANNOT just roll with the holes and im glad they exist

[timber ridge]

somehow the foam tips on my blon 03 ripped

idk how

[tacit wing]

#sponsoredbydekoni

[timber ridge]

i think its bc my setup is right next to a slide door

and maybe temperature has a role in it ?

[tacit wing]

the smallest dekoni tips are still ever so slightly large for me

even so, foams shouldn't just collapse like that wtf

[timber ridge]

yea idk

[west hornet]

hmm smallest

[timber ridge]

dino you needa cop a pair

[verbal vector]

I have no preference

[tacit wing]

bruh theyre gonna be touching my brain

[timber ridge]

pwnage ultra ergo might be a good choice

[tacit wing]

theres a chance that you have a preference of heavy mice but try a mouse around 60g and it might just change ur life

although u should keep shape at top priority

now i really wanna get some CAL's

[timber ridge]

you can legit get blon 05s and some a pair of cal

gg

its like 100 for both

prob the best budget combo unless you get porta pros or some

[verbal vector]

Thanks for the recommendations and the help

[timber ridge]

nice

someone who took our advice

[queen sigil]

gEt varMillo

or leopolds

wait what mouse did he get recommended

[tacit wing]

a plethora of mice

[queen sigil]

of course

[daring zenith]

Keychron

[timber ridge]

varmillo, keychron, durgod, rk

o and leopold

ez recommendations

[tacit wing]

Mr1111 shoulve gotten mod assist

[daring zenith]

no

[tacit wing]

and kick everyone who refuses to get Keychron

[daring zenith]

wait yes

I want that

[timber ridge]

imagine

getting kicked for not wanting a keychron

[cunning hearth]

custom keeb

better than keychron

[queen sigil]

man wants a 700$ custom keyboard

gets recommended keychron

says no

gets banned

[cunning hearth]

xD

$700 too much

max i would spend is $300

[timber ridge]

300 is lowkey a little

thats how much a lotta good kits go for alone

325 or some

[cunning hearth]

accounting for a gmk set

maybe $400

the tofu 65 and dz65 kit is $200 with brass plate

[timber ridge]

dz65 is that cheap ?

i thought it was more

[cunning hearth]

on kbdfans i believe

[timber ridge]

nvm thinking of the d65

https://kbdfans.com/collections/group-buy/products/icd65-mechanical-keyboard-kit

i want this lowkey or the vega

[queen sigil]

also how good do porta pros fit on your head

[timber ridge]

depends on ur head

[queen sigil]

hm

[cunning hearth]

[timber ridge]

leo have u looked in to cal

if i remember correctly there is two versions but the v1s are pog

[cunning hearth]

[queen sigil]

I saw them

but a bunch of people complain they break easily

[timber ridge]

i mean aslong as ur not ripping them off your head after using them they should be fine

my headphones were known for breaking too but theyre in perfect condition still

[pale plume]

Thoughts on the corsair k57 and harpoon? Liking the idea of the rechargable batteries

[tight pulsar]

brass plates lame

[cunning hearth]

why

[tight pulsar]

cause theyre expensive and dont sound great

[timber ridge]

any keyboard from a gamer company is typically not so good or overpriced

and alu plate >

[cunning hearth]

or aluminum

also has alu option

[tight pulsar]

alu slightly better but half alu is very nice

plateless is nice

[cunning hearth]

what about polycarbonate

[timber ridge]

ppl complain about flex with non metal plates

[pale plume]

What would your recommendation be?

[timber ridge]

keychron, varmillo, leopold, durgod or rk if youre on a budget

and for the mouse, do you know your hand grip ?

[pale plume]

Nope can't say I do. Budget of about $150 for both mouse and kb

[timber ridge]

do you hve a mouse rn ?

[pale plume]

Yeah using this logitech mk850 combo for a bit until I return it. Lol hate the keys on the kb

[timber ridge]

when holding it is your whole hand in contact or only your finger tips

or is your palm in contact and your fingers kinda hunch over the righ and left click

[pale plume]

Whole hand, I'd say. Although I've got smaller hands, so it feels a bit big

[timber ridge]

this may help

[pale plume]

Palm grip for sure

[timber ridge]

model d - might be a nice choice since your hands are smaller

[cunning hearth]

mm ergo

[west hornet]

i went from palm to fingertip xD

[timber ridge]

he might be able to claw the model o tbh

[pale plume]

Model d? I'll take a look

[cunning hearth]

i can knuckle claw the o

[cunning hearth]

model d - (minus)

[timber ridge]

yup

the minus is the smaller model

da v2 mini is an option too

[pale plume]

Any wireless options? Kind of part of the whole build is being able to hide everything

[timber ridge]

pwnage ultra custom ergo

[pale plume]

Ok that mouse is sexy af. And even comes in mint that could match my desk

[timber ridge]

yea lotta color options lol

[pale plume]

My build. It's pretty crazy to actually match it

Sorry, Probably not the place for pics

[timber ridge]

its cool

you have airflow vents on the side ?

[pale plume]

2 140mm intake on the bottom

[timber ridge]

o nice

[pale plume]

That's a more up to date

140 Exhaust

[timber ridge]

you can get a keyboard to match everything tbh

lemme see if i can find something

only thing that came to mind was islander pbt keycaps but theyre sold out

extras are supposed to restock this friday but eh

[pale plume]

That's ok. I appreciate your help!

[timber ridge]

np

[daring zenith]

Keychron

[daring zenith]

Yes

[west hornet]

buy

[solar meteor]

Hello, what is the diffirence between a ergonomic mouse mouse and a non ergonomic one?

[timber ridge]

shape

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-1-5ft-Premium-22AWG-Cable/dp/B003L1717K/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1548970649&sr=8-3&keywords=rca+short

this'll do for an amp and dac right

[solar meteor]

ok, then

so does it make a diffirence

[timber ridge]

depends on your grip type

[solar meteor]

palm grip

[timber ridge]

ergo is better

typically

and there is ergo shaped mouse that dont have ergo in name

[solar meteor]

ok then, cuse im deciding if i should by the Model O or the Model D

[timber ridge]

model d may be the better choice since ur palm gripping

[solar meteor]

ok thanks

[timber ridge]

np

[tacit wing]

buy it and run cyberpunk on it

[small nimbus]

lance

i have randoms dming me because of you

[cunning hearth]

lol

[rugged lion]

Actually it’s a piece /s

[small nimbus]

thanks

[timber ridge]

lmao

[small nimbus]

[timber ridge]

classical music enthusiast

[small nimbus]

🗿

I wish my brain too small for that

[timber ridge]

big head, brain empty

[small nimbus]

[timber ridge]

after playing league with classical music for super long, i dont even need the music anymore lol

[tacit wing]

Fun Fact: Classical composers such as Wolfgang Mozart and Claude Debussy drew inspiration from the likes of Playboi Carti

[timber ridge]

jus dont tilt in it anymore

[timber ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-pog-gif-18408265

[tacit wing]

https://youtu.be/E1HBGCKGzGs

[small nimbus]

teach me the ways sensei

[timber ridge]

you jus gotta focus on urself and vibe

do you still spam aram or do you play norms

[tacit wing]

pain.

[tight pulsar]

dude just come to est its like .5 a gallon

[tacit wing]

i paid 2.99 a gallon

[tight pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-big-yikes-oops-award-awkward-gif-14697236

[tacit wing]

i think the most i paid ever was like 3.90 something

bcak when prices were booty cheeks

[small nimbus]

aram only and i still get flamed in aram btw

[timber ridge]

why do they flame u lol

[tacit wing]

mf its league

[small nimbus]

i got ezreal in aram

mf instantly trades for ez, i say no, someone has rammus and i ask them for rammus and we trade

i explain normally i would play ez but i am best rammus NA maybe world wide

and then the mf proceeds to go beserk flame for 20 minutes because i didnt give them ez

[little crater]

i like this

[timber ridge]

rammus op

i got hextech for him lol

[small nimbus]

he has hextech??

[timber ridge]

yup

[small nimbus]

i have a few skins for him but i prefer ninja

so they cant see me

🗿

[timber ridge]

few ?

[small nimbus]

yea i'll show after game

[stoic solar]

lmao

[small nimbus]

[stoic solar]

also @small nimbus dm me ur email pls

[small nimbus]

O_O

[stoic solar]

i have that fat transfer but im having it send over email

all those songs u wanted

or i can send link here

[small nimbus]

send here pls

[stoic solar]

kk

this is gonna take a while

[small nimbus]

remember i only have 2 mb of space

[stoic solar]

this is like 40gb

[small nimbus]

uh hello

i have 40.3 gb free so

should be fine

[timber ridge]

holy

rammus main ?

[small nimbus]

no

i just have 256 skins

[timber ridge]

i cant take rammus srs

[small nimbus]

[timber ridge]

i jus think of "ok"

[small nimbus]

?

okay play yi against me see what happens

[timber ridge]

rammus is busted tho

i almost got a penta with him

[small nimbus]

its bc of ghost i swear

[west hornet]

is this league chat now?

[small nimbus]

no

[tacit wing]

[timber ridge]

not toxic enough

[tight pulsar]

dang somebodys selling 2 kmacs

[high fulcrum]

That sliver one

😍

[tight pulsar]

noods

[stoic solar]

mad

this song started strong but was just generic trash dance music

[sturdy sinew]

question what are good keycaps under like 30 bucks

going to try and get the nk65 and t1‘ s

.

[left smelt]

Guys I'm thinking of buying the Audio Technica ATH-M20x
Headphones. Should I consider it for gaming instead of the hyperx stinger 7.1 and the blackshark V2 X? I already have a mic but I think virtual surround will help a bit in gaming so I considered the hyperx and razer ones. or should I just get the audio technica cause I already have a mic and it has better sound even though its only stereo?

[cunning hearth]

virtual surround sound doesnt help

stereo is better

i dont have experience with that specific model

but its probably better quality than hyperx and razer

@left smelt

[left smelt]

Thanks broo

But
It's 10 euros more than hyperx one

Is it worth it?

[cunning hearth]

you should compare reviews

[left smelt]

Well these one say what they sound professional while the others dont

[cunning hearth]

wait you already have mic right

[left smelt]

Yeah

[cunning hearth]

what's your budget for new headphones

[left smelt]

A good one too 😂

60 euros

[cunning hearth]

hm

[left smelt]

These ones are 48(the audio technica)

I will buy from skroutz.com

Cause I'm in greece

[cunning hearth]

hm

i think they're p good

but if u got the extra money maybe get an atx-m40x or atx-m50

[left smelt]

Should I actually consider them over the senheizer HD PRO 200

[cunning hearth]

hmm

i'm not an expert in these types of things

but i think both are good

might wanna ask @brisk parcel

[left smelt]

Okayy

Thanks a lot bro though

😂

[cunning hearth]

np

[brisk parcel]

@left smelt hey buddy! So I know your original budget is 60 euros, are you thinking about raising that? I see from your talk wish ssenti you might

Lemme get outta bed 1 sec lmao

alright im back

so

budget time

[stoic solar]

hell yeah the audio gods have arrived

i can stop lurking this chat

[cunning hearth]

lol

sennheiser ninja

=audio god

[stoic solar]

by saying that i summoned the real audio gods

[brisk parcel]

lmao I wouldn't call myself the audio god

I just learned a lot real fast

[stoic solar]

by audio god i mean someone who isnt half deaf like i am

[brisk parcel]

lmao

[left smelt]

i was thinking of buying the Audio Technica ATH-M20x (theyre 48 euros on skroutz)

instead of the senheizer HD PRO 200 (its around 60 euros on skroutz)

which do i choose?

@brisk parcel

[brisk parcel]

1 sec

well 1 min actually

[left smelt]

yeah

[brisk parcel]

okay so

personally I haven't heard either of them myself. From what I know, people really only recommend the m40x, and the m50x with modified pads. I heard the hd pro 200s are pretty good for the price but they could be better

let me do the $ to euro conversion real quick lmao

maybe I have another recommendation for you

I assume you want closed back? or does it not matter?

also wired or wireless? does that not matter either?

[royal cape]

Razer Kraken X USB headset, do you have to install the razer synapse software for these to function, thinking about having these be my gaming and work headset but not sure if i can use them for work if i have to install extra software