#peripherals-and-displays
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how does it compare to the 6xx lmao
@tacit wing is it cool enough to wear it in public
Also is the drop pp x mic
Worth over the normie pp
depends on how lame you look without them on currently
if you have a 90's theme outfit it will blend right in
doubt it
I still don't understand one thing
does the paypal credit just sit there if I'm not using it or require a minimum monthly no matter what
i dont use paypal so idk
@west hornet Ghosty if you havent already
get Yaxi pads
it widens the soundstage by a long shot, if ur into that
Noooo
i dont know what you were expecting lol
thats like expecting a brand new movie to go straight to netflix
Ye I tried amazon decline me, gonna try again tmrw lol
tragic
Nice
should jus ordered off of amazon
yes that was a pepega move by me
not a gamer moment
here my family picture 
any additions for 2021?
my phone just had the worlds longest notification sound
and it scared me
so much
like it vibrated for 10 years
balanced amps and dacs
i was thinking Topping A90+D90
who is amber and why does she keep alerting me?
or a 789 but i heard that has dynamics issues
no it was a notification for a messaging app
that i never use
all the local hotties within 10 miles texting leo all at once
O_O
no it was a message telling me it updated
and my phone case vibrated on my desk and it was so loud
felt that
shutup u have two girlfriends
LMFAO
u should check how many pins are bent
i did a quick glimpse in the bag and the majority look p good
@tacit wing what that audio technica
Lmao wat
m40x with HM5 pads
and the headband is wrapped in electrical tape because the pleather was flaking off
Razers grips feels way better lol
is it only for the ultimate ?
Razer has alot of grips for a plethora of their mice
not all of them tho
Corepadz has great grips as well
my feelings has changed towards the Ultimate, the MOW is the better mouse
the pre-travel on my copy is bigger than my Mini
its terrible
yes it doesnt really affect me in-game. post and pre-travel just says alot about quality control
apparently the clicks on the Mercury Viper are more tactile
i wanna wait and see what razer is gonna do with their next wireless mouse
they did some shadow revions on that thing
before i impulsively buy the mow
I thought the whole point of replaygain was to do that without ruining range, otherwise a million and one programs have equalization built in
Replay Gain is just volume normalization
literally just through groove, no volume equalization, very few tracks have given trouble wit volume
why replaygain then
like windows has an option for that built into it
groove supports a lot of stuff lol
well Foobar has always been the defacto player for FLACS and i jumped in the wagon
I forget it might even play ac3
it does
looks like it'll play just about anything
the problem with replay gain is that some programs ignore it or implement it in silly ways
itunes i am looking at you
apple do everything bad smdh
not really
they supported it way before there was a decent way to implement it on the windows side of things
and they carried it over from a different implementation they had on a different fileformat
I still can't quite figure out if the paypal credit costs anything if you aren't using it
hmm
paypal customer support kinda sucks
ez moment
@tacit wing again I shall confirm, get them devas?
well deva are about the same aren't they, cheaper than those modded phantoms
monoliths got copped cuz of freakin ebay robots
sadly not all players support flac... apple
WAIT
but weirdly enough they at least support it through the Files app on ios
@brisk parcel what headphones do you have?
welp, might be worth considering those thieaudios again
@royal sandal sennhesier HD 58X jubilee and hifiman HE 5XX
hm any thoughts on this weight https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/734745295501524996/785000524280758282/unknown.png
Both of those are from Drop, not necessarily just Sennheiser
theres gonna be alot of 6xx bois on this server soon
why?
is he not allowed to put Sennheiser on his name this mf the username police
I wanted to sort of get into the audiophile sphere a bit and saw that he had Sennheiser in his name, so I asked and he said that Sennheiser was the best and that he loved his sennheiser headphones and all that but both of his headphones are collabs from Drop
anyway I gtg
see ya
cya
does he come here every 2 weeks or so to continue his convo
@royal sandal yeah they are a drop collab
2020 not treating kuzu well at all
but both are pretty good
how does a he4xx compare to 5xx
and yes boutta cop the 6XX
tldr: v-shaped vs. cold
yes
EXCELLENT
do you prefer a v shape over a u shape
boutta cop those instead

I like having powerful but not overbearing bass and accurate trebble
something similar to this always ends up being my eq on everything I've had so far
yeye same
then 4xx will be perfect
imo it has one of the most safest sound sigs from all the Drop cans
it caters to alot of ears
alot of to-be 6xx owners in this channel
lmao fair
are the 6xx more u shape than v
Kuzu
oh yeah I got $10 in drop credit
is this a good keyboard
hmmm
youre not cancelling your 6xx's are you?
if you buy pre-owned 600 series Senns, most likely the pads are gonna be worn out
and with 600 Senns you have to get stock OEM pads bc aftermarket seems to ruin the sound
the preowned 6xx's never sell for low enough for it to even be worth it
is that a good keyboard i found
like if it sells for $170 PLUS shipping that ain't even worth it for something that's already worn out
well that depends, what the heck are RK switches?
i dont even know
do you need bluetooth?
y'know, actually, I am not the guy to be talking about keyboards
yea kind of my laptop only has to usb
still though, what's with planar magnetics and using those leathery pads
idk i might just go for the steel series apex 3
its a laptop
type c?
i think i have one
whats ur budget
50-70
and what form factor/switch type
dude ive been using a laptop keyboard for idk even know how long i dont really understand swith types
so basically what you're saying is
you'd probably be satisfied with a $35 faux blue switch ReDragon like me?
alright I'm keepin my eye on these $87 HE4xx's
that too
my feeling is that the robot would get it again though
he would be fine with any mech tbh
friggin robots
also you bet your bottom dollar I'm gonna mess with foam
god can the 6xx get here QUICKER I keep hearing this little rattle in my current headphones and it's KILLING ME

well, who does do deliveries for drop
they'll use ups or usps
just tried putting the thingy in both of those and neither gave aresult
aaaaaa
ups is cursed
usps 
same i had a bunch of nice mechs and now im just using my laptop kb and i almost like it more
which keebs
razer blackwidow chroma
what keyboards did you have before?
maybe its the tactility of a laptop keeb?
idk
i had some ducky boards and one i built myself
to be fair i got nerve damage in fingertips
just the cases were ducky
the limited ones like the uhhh
frozen llama
have one of those

microphone no work in tf2
I'm the only human being in all of earth that plays tf2 with a dac/amp apparently so no one knows how to fix this
werent u just troubleshooting some dude's mic problems earlier
yeah
but they didn't have a dac/amp and also if fixed it just now lmao
all I had to do was set it as default device
still, would be nice if tf2 had something that let you select input/output
on-board audio is more complicated to me 
those damn Realtek drivers are a real pain sometimes
blame "super duper can do no wrong in the eyes of the gamers" developer valve for the eff up that is the source engines take on Audio settings
props to them for being able to do that
if it were any other box I don't even think it'd be physically possible
too slippery
g304 lightspeed or g502 hero?
do you require bluetooth
passing the time
living life
I picked up a Corsair K95 RGB Platinum with Cherry MX Brown Switches
nice
upon doing research I have realized DSD and MQA are total gobbledygook marketing jargon that doesn't matter
get your music in flac, get good headphones, enjoy
@swift lantern

not to mention that you need an mQa CeRtIFiEd DAC to decode the format really does confirm that its marketing bs
schiit called them out on their schiit
110€, from local ebay, mint condition
ikr ❤️
bruh schiit has like the most lowkey product updates ever
apparently the modi 3 is now the 3+ and uses their unison usb stuff
?
Ye mqa is wacky and it costs money to the artists and manufacturers for the certified equipment
uhh wat
uhh yeah
it supports my stero speaker
and my razer headset
19 votes and 49 comments so far on Reddit
They are the opposite as they are mid forward but pretty bass lacking and trebble light
so im using the dolby for my movies and music and my razer 7.1 (included with my razer blackshark v2x) for games
hi dino
just got dolby atmos
Estats then
Well actually nm cause most estats suck at bass impact too
95x post mods just has insane bass impact without needing ti get too loud for bass
Maybe some of the other non stax large driver estats would be similar
Like an he60 or orpheus
...
SURROUND SOUND HEADPHONES POGGERS
360 audio footstep much clearer
give me advantage against enemy
i needed to change install and change drivers and jsut finsihed restarting my laptop
lol dolby atmos for gaming or razer 7.1 for gaming
i have 2 cheap logitech speakers and a bose soundlink mini 1 and a bose soundlink mini 2
sinc it splits a good quality of freq. so good for movie theatre
Maybe I should get laptop and try in room that has 5.1 haha
yeah 5.1 setup like that
lol
lmao
has bass mid high low . i thought low is a bass. but it kinda different xD.. low is the freq not the actual bass it self. because my amplifier have those.
true Dolby experience xD
I have to clean up closet where receiver is 
dts:x or dolby atmos
you should buy 5.1 speaker :)
i saw this online
Depends what content is guess
Some is dts some is Dolby
choto matte do i need to pay for phone or all i need to do is downlaod that apk
i have 7.1 too. yeah its loud if u enable it and the sound makes it more rich. its still virtual.
i can also re arrange the speaker setup
That webpage make my phone warm

and its kewl since u can actually feel it haha
that its there
hahha
but yeh sill virtual
My speakers are in wall
tomie is the only mod i see in here lol
7.1 makes it go full range mode
thats a pricy headphone u got
wdym its 60$
but not circle its square padded. is it still comfortable for 10 hours of use?
ow maybe here its pricy
hahaha
the razer blackshark v2 is 100 usd here
ow theres x
base on this its supports 12Hz-28kHz
so this two is useless
ow wait im reading it wrong i guess.. the other lil number is khz i thought hz also
Premium Cinema experience at home: built-in upward-firing speakers and True 5.1.2 surround sound with Dolby Atmos, delivers a truly immersive audio experience that moves all around you, even from above*Dolby Atmos: transports you from the ordinary into the extraordinary With breathtaking, moving aud
@trim latch lol im just randomly doing stuff
isn this liek 300
cna i trust renewed i mean 200 dollar off
seem kinda sus
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lol
yeah u should try 5.1
probably good sound
eeh soundbar for gaming hmm maybe theres rgb of that
5.1 vs 7.1 wahts the deal
well its dts cetified xD
like not working stuff.. and the guy wont refund but the others like it
look at this review
oh ok
i think i might refund my sony mdrnc7 for a porta pro + yaxi pad
sure
imma consider tat
other review is trash haha.. like "great delivery"
i think i might refund my sony mdrnc7 for a porta pro + yaxi pad
oh lol
differnce between prota pros and dropx prota pros x
i think the x have the mic but is it comaptible with yaxi pads
this one is Tuned by THX but not certified xD dts.. but the review is more nice
but deym 800 usd xD
haha
omg
its 24 bit uncompressed too kewl
i never heard wisa before
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Buy Monaco 5.1 WiSA system here:
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Your support is very important, please like and sub...
i think wisa is popular
also WiSA technology supports 24 bit, 96 kHz across all 8 channels
also i think why is this pricy because its wireless
hm, what brings you down here @trim latch ?
to see first 20 messages haha
fair :)
lol
just not often i see you be actually active outside of #general-chat
i got dolby atmos
thats the special occasion
and hes recommended me some 5.1 setups
or she
has Klipsch done any Atmos setups?
ahh i see
how to get technie role lol
have them come to you, and ask you
stop drooling, you wont slip so much then :P
^
my budget for my keyboard is like $50
Then i'd just save up money for a keychron
RK has:
RK switches
ABS keycaps
Plastic case
cheap stabs unlubed
Keychron has:
Gateron switches
premium ABS/PBT keycaps
Plastic/alu case
Plate clip in stabs prelubed
and the keychron has a 4000 mAH battery while the RK has like a 1400 mAH battery
if you really need bluetooth
neither keyboards are good for wireless gaming
i thought someone said they use like RK switches
idk
yo wtf
hhkb arrows best tho
65% 75% tkl any dedicated arrows are good
bauer lite is coming out
yeah ik
yeah
how much is it
think ima be spending more lmao
not announced yet
but if its under 200
i think ima cop
clicky build for it 😎
150g box jades
for ur budget
ez
150 yikes
@unkempt sphinx
yea, at that price, you can actually get something good
would rather get a rk board tbh
If you are going to there might as well get a keychron
yeah either stay budget or go for a decent one
no point in getting a cheap one for a high price
hm i wonder how cheap i could get a decent board for
define decent
conforming with generally accepted standards of respectable or moral behavior.
"the good name of such a decent and innocent person"
2.
of an acceptable standard; satisfactory.
"people need decent homes"
idk,a lotta ppl rn think its okay to bump stuff over msrp for no reason
uh
if i do a 3rd build im either gonna go with clickies or some super tactile switches
or maybe silent switches
🤔 so i could get a 60% w ktt red wines and an oring tray mount with plastic case for sub 100
what
and the pcb is via comparable and has everglide stabs
taobao
and treeleaf proxied like 2k red wines and is selling them for .15 a switch
the power of china
4xx has way better tamber and bass extension, less distorted highs and a slightly better sense of detail retrieval, slightly better sound stage, and a slightly better sense of imaging
Also it isnt v shape vs cold
It is 2 v shaped fr but one has bass that doesnt die at lower frequencies and has less heavy of spikes in trebble
this mf really hated his Devas with a passion
as if it killed his entire family
4XX's arent any wider than 5XX/Devas

bruh
@queen sigil https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/gmmk-tkl-tenkeyless-brown-switch is this good? (Asking for a friend)
no
just get a k8
ok
did you check keychron's website or amazon
I doubt they do since they prelube everything
Reason: Bad word usage
i mean you can have a barebone kit with stabs
@timber ridge they don't have the K6 I want on amazon
Barebones usually just pcb..?
are you outside na?
k6 looks in stock to me
https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-k6-wireless-mechanical-keyboard
Keychron K6 Compact Wireless Mechanical Keyboard. 65% Layout. Wireless or Wired. Users can hot swap every switch in seconds with the hot-swappable version. Compatible with Mac, Windows, iOS, Android, Linux. Optical or Gateron Switches. Connect up to 3 devices. 15+ RGB Backlight
I go on the Keychron website and they have the K6 I want but it is out of stock in Red and Brown switches (I want red switches)
I guess I could just buy it with Blue Switches and then buy some Gateron Yellows
bad idea or good idea?
I could also sell the Gateron Blues
Hotswappable reds are in stock btw
oooooo
if youre willing to spend, its a good idea
@timber ridge I'm in NA
you can lube and film the yellows too, gateron cap milkys are p cheap
I'm guessing hotswap is gateron, not sure
I don't want to Lube switches so Gateron Yellows are my best bet right?
you prob have to spend no more than 40 for gat caps
its helps switches sound better
I'm just gonna plop em in and use it, ill come back here later when im more confident in lubing and "filming" and "bandaging"
i don't care about sound i wear headphones
Is putting in the switches gonna take a lot of time or do they just snap in???
keychron has p good stabs, so you wont need to band aid mod it
but it says the red switch option restocks on the 12th
not sure if its v2 k6 tho
yup
my k2 hot swap had clip in plate mount stabs
I think it will make it nicer
but it comes with 3 pin switches put its compatible with 5 pin
wait.. so is the Aluminium not worth it??
i mean, thats up to you to decide
I was jus mentioning that it isnt like a full alu case
oh i know
its jus alu bumpers screwed onto the border
I thought the Aluminium was the inside, like the frame with all the switch holes
keychrons are kinda high, idk if the alu bumper will raise it anymore
oh
you could fix it with a simple wrist rest or it may be perfectly fine for you
they fixed the angle so that its not too high on the v2s
i getting different keycaps if that changes anything
I have small hands so i probably will buy a wrist rest
are Gateron Yellows better than Gateron Reds or is it just preference
its all preference
try checking out gateron cap switches
?
okay
novelkeys has them
kbd has them too but its 20 dollar shipping, i would compare prices
divinikey might have them
these?
yup
also will the housing stop the rgb from shining through?
i pack has 35 switches im p sure
i think the milkys will still allow light to shine through
how many do i need for the K6?
Estimated shipping date: December 12th 35 per unit, come with Polycarbonate switch testing base. Specification: Linear Actuation:50gf Pre-travel:2.0mm Total travel:4.0mm Milky--Non-gold-plated spring Yellow-Gold-plated spring Download specification documents: Click & Click
Ill buy the Milkys from here
their shipping is p hefty
wait so its like 20 bucks b4 shipping for a 65%
if you go with cap milky
tbh id just get normal ks3 yellows theyre like $5 cheaper and ship faster
if ks3 yellows were as easy to get as caps, i would go with ks3s
https://cannonkeys.com/products/gateron-yellow-10
https://415keys.com/collections/switches/products/gateron-ks-3-series-yellow-20-cents?variant=36900991631513
Please note switches are sold in packs of 10. Quantity 1 = 10 switches CannonKeys is pleased to stock Gateron Yellows! Our switches are produced by Gateron and feature PCB mount legs, as well as a full milky housing and top. Gateron Yellows are a linear switch that actuate around 50g and bottom out at around 62g. They
oo
last time i checked it was only on chinese websites
apparently there is new jwk switches coming out
theyre .15 on taobao but shipping takes a lot longer
I'll probably try out some estats in 20 years when their absolute lowest price isn't $800
Anybody know if these are good
no
Fast response lmao
they are by no means bad, for gaming it gets the job done. but they are too pricey for what they are
What is better those or Logitech pro x headphones
I sorta wanna move away from gamery headphones tbh
And have a stand-alone mic and headphone combo
if youre gonna fork out 250 dollars on audio just get 6XX's
follow this flow chart
with your budget, these are a great place to start https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-sennheiser-hd6xx
a dedicated amp would be a benefit, but not needed
Also know nothing about Amps
Yea Probably
Shp 9600 + fiio e10k?
yes
theres endless combos with 250 usd
DMS did say, if you take his word for it, that 9600's are not that good in value at 130 USD
they were 100 WITH microphone last I saw but idk if that deal was still going
nah that deal is over now, darn
I wish I had a preamp for microphone kinda
but not enough to spend a bunch on a dedicated one, wish it was a feature in more dac/amps
@tacit wing wait wut does schiits unison usb do cause im kinda confused at their explanation
it's an add-on but I don't get it
basically just lower power draw (USB bus) and less EMI
might help if the picture had more than a single angle
I do not understand it at all upon looking into it
wat?
electrical engineering mumbo jumbo
lol
the DAC chips just seem more isolated
@torn summit wat do u need
dolby atmos + fxsound enhancer +razer blackshrak v2x = endgame?
@tacit wing

or u know replace that with bose soundlink mini 2
razer blackshrak v2x?
Blackshrak
ok so apparently Unison was only in 600 dollar dacs like the Bifrost and the Gungnir
and they just implemented it in their Modis, which make sense since its their best selling DAC
and its been a while since they updated it
.. wat
its not a significant difference like it was Magni 3 to the Plus
Cholax Blackshrak Endgame
everything else is trash
does amazon not accept paypal
no :((
amazon is such a pain, my card gets declined and they don't have paypal. this is why i dont use amazon -_-
lmao
i give up
uhh sign up for a paypal creddit duh
ye paypal credit
card
thingy
they accept
that
so make one
well a guy let me in on a total lifehack if you wanna do a purchase over time
paypal credit an amazon giftcard, then use the giftcard

STONKS
LMAO
fax
or just use the payal credit card to pay for stuff
@fickle rover get the viper mini. it's a really solid build for a razer mouse and even more solid than a g502. it's small so it's good for fingertip. i don't have much more to say. it's basically the best razer mouse and one of their few products that isn't stupidly overpriced
man
someone who knows something
he knows that razer products are bad but the viper
nice
yeah
i have the huntsman mini
it's good for only gaming
that's why I only use it to game
ok
i have viper mini but I really need a bigger mousepad
I'm gonna get one in january probably
@swift lantern g203 looks fine for budget but the shape looks... idk it just looks ugly and uncomfortable.
it's comfortable
i use claw but almost fingertip
whats a good headset...
like only a small fraction of my lower palm is on the mouse
a good headset is to get a pair of headphones and microphone
@heady schooner budget
prob like 200 ish maybe preferably lower but if its worth then idrc
and i would prefer wireless but its not that important'
@rugged lion waht do u need
headset
i understand i just dont care
and a mic
i have a blue yeti
oh
just dont feel like using it
also i kinda broke it... got really mad one day
on the heaphone
do u like a lot of bass or do you want super crisp high quality audio or what
i need a new headset
idk man i play games all day if im not hanging out with friends so
i play a lot of fps games too?
open or closed
then go with the sennheiser one and call it a day I guess
so surround sound is important idk if thats becoming standard now
idk waht that means
u make it sound likea bad thing
what is soundstage
also if the headset is slim like near the ears its +10 points
or wireless
its like if the outside part of the headphones
dont matter preferably wireless
i was already considering arctic 7's
my friend has arctic 5's the only issue is they like sat on my ear not over it?
so yeah
if u know what i mean
6xx hooked up to a bluetooth module 
instead of plastic backing, a grate and or mesh
lets in air and sound, good for soundstaging
if you want to keep sound out, if you are in a noisy place, then you would like closed more
i mean
@rugged lion would u be able to go like
uhh
40 bucks over ur budget
if u want
if u can*
i mean
then 6xx + one of those bluetooth this
honestly within that price range, I wouldn't
that's like, putting bike wheels on a ferrari
58x or hd589 maybe?
24bit Bluetooth receiver designed to deliver studio-quality sound through your ears WIRELESS - using your existing wired headphones, earphones or even speakers. Dimension 1 x 2 x 0.5 inch / Weight 20g / 14 hours of continuous playback / Dedicated app featured with 10 band EQ and Ambient mode / USB audio playback / devi
of course then there's the question of if their pc is even bluetooth capable to begin with
- 6xx
is a good combo
but like
thats way over budget
@swift lantern bruh
58x takes alot of power
my pc can't do bluetooth
@rugged lion is your pc inherently bluetooth capable
oh and then there's like, the whole codec situation
yes.
oh come one
z490-e has bluetooth xD
bluetooth is annoying
he wanted wireless lets jsut say he has it unless why would u want wireless
for me I'm not even gonna dip my foot into it until everything ever is using ldac
ok then a sennheiser headset + that receiver would probably be fine would it not
ok idk what language u guys are speaking so imma just go with the arctic 7s
what then
not sure if i should listen to a marxist about a capitalist market
anyone know where i can cop gmk sets?
not gb
yeah i know mine; its the marxist with blm in their name and a anime pfp
arent like all GMK sets GB
yes thats not what i meant
some websites sell gmk sets but like they physically have them
like old gb's
for exmaple they might have mizu but not 80082
https://www.originativeco.com/collections/keysets is an example
but i know some that have like multiple sets
because that website is like all group buys
So you just want to buy keycaps second hand?
isnt it a just a regular group buy?
just get a group buy
i mean it depends if its a GB or not
im sure there's a good one
all GBs take like at least 3 months
for keycaps at least
also buying GB keycaps second hand is expensive
As a note for anyone planning to mod a 95x i tried some combinations and materials for the front and rear felt and foam and the best option so far has been to leave the front foam as it seems to play a big role in keeping mids forward and removing the rear felt and replacing it with a really fine but thin mesh or just no material at all if you are willing to clean the driver often
@rugged lion ok so
arent you like the only person here who does like alot of modding to headphones
shp9500+vmoda boom pro mic+bluettoth receiver
@normal barn no
isnt there a wireless vmoda
or a pc37x+https://earstudio.store/products/es100
24bit Bluetooth receiver designed to deliver studio-quality sound through your ears WIRELESS - using your existing wired headphones, earphones or even speakers. Dimension 1 x 2 x 0.5 inch / Weight 20g / 14 hours of continuous playback / Dedicated app featured with 10 band EQ and Ambient mode / USB audio playback / devi
@thick plank shut
he wants
a 200 thing
headset
with a wireless thing
9500 is an overpriced grain machine
probs shouldnt tell someone who knows more than you to shutup
leo shut
Just sayin
Just get a ur40 and it is a 1/4 the price upgrade
The 9500 is just a bad headphone that hot overhyped by people who think it is the cheapest openback because they only know of like 3 openbavkd in total
ok
if we're doing ur 40
he can just do
dropxkoss porta pro x with mic
aand yaxi pads
and a bluetooth receiver
I mean yea but I get wanting over ear
ye have left us
His budget was $200 you said?


