#peripherals-and-displays

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queen sigil
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from DK

tight pulsar
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makes sense

obsidian cypress
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I know people mod keyboards.

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Are there mice that can be modded like a keyboard?

white flame
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Sort of

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You can change the switches in a lot of mice with a bit of soldering

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That's about the extent of it though

gaunt forge
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Actually, hot swap mice exist

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like the incott g23

oak jungle
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you can also change the grips and skates

gaunt forge
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or many mice made by RAWM

pale cosmos
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RAWR

gaunt forge
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a company called Orbital actually made a modular mouse

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its cool

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and also sold out so good luck

oak jungle
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or take a dremel to it for weight reduction 😈

pale cosmos
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Orbital Rawr strikes inbound

gaunt forge
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with ur OWOpad

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or the Rizzpad

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The benefit of mouse modding is that even if I burn my circuit on like a Logitech mouse, replacement parts are like 2-15 bucks

dapper adder
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mice switches are like 3 pins

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easier than keyboard switches

gaunt forge
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nuh uh

obsidian cypress
obsidian cypress
# gaunt forge nuh uh

So do modular mice use specialized parts or is it like a keyboard where you have a wide range of choices to pick from?

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Interesting it looks as though you can buy all hardware needed to build a mouse from scratch

gaunt forge
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mice are so small of a product that no company cares about making sharable parts

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Again, Orbital is one comapny with only one mouse. Razer Naga is similar. you might want the naga if you want heavier

obsidian cypress
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I just realized my scroll wheel can be moved sideways

gaunt forge
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no

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only naga

obsidian cypress
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ah rip.

gaunt forge
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you can theoretically solder but theres realy no point. Dont reocmmend it

obsidian cypress
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Part of why I am curious is that I'd like a bigger mouse and figured it'd be cool if hotswap existed to build my own

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the Basilisk V3 feels small in my hands

gaunt forge
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woah

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ever tried a deathadder?

obsidian cypress
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I don't think so.

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I have tried some red dragon and logitech mice before. all of them felt to small

gaunt forge
obsidian cypress
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My hands are about 5.5 inches wide and 8.75 inches long

dapper adder
# obsidian cypress I want the opposite.

@oak jungle honestly I also like weighted mice
I started PC gaming around the time when companies added weights to their mice to make them heavier
And I still have been using a weighted mouse to this day (like 120g or something like that) and I quite like it lol
Honestly idk how it would feel to switch to the m6 since that is around half the weight of my current mouse lol

oak jungle
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I'm not like super hardcore about it, I do still value comfort, but I just don't see any appeal to heavy mice other than the somewhat outdated mindset of "heavy feels premium"

dapper adder
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rather than it feeling premium, it's what i'm used to

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my first mouse was a roller ball mouse which also was kinda heavy due to the ball

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(if you didnt know, those mice had basically a steel ball coated with rubber)

ashen crater
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roller ball mice are so jank lmao

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i mean from my understanding theyre stupidly accurate but

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still

dapper adder
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no they were terrible lmao

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it would get gunked up fairly often

ashen crater
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i mean them now

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back then yeah they were close to unusable lol

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they still arent ever gonna be good for gaming or anything

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but they have productivity benefits

dapper adder
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i think you're thinking of a different type of mouse?

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i mean the mice with the ball on the bottom rather than the optical sensor we have today

ashen crater
dapper adder
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well, there's 2 types of ball mice, the type that we still have today, which is a ball on top, and the mouse doesnt move

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and the old type that isnt being made anymore (probably) that has the ball on the bottom

ashen crater
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trackballs?

dapper adder
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yeah

ashen crater
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im talking about rollerballs lmao

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i said SOME

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and in very specific use cases

dapper adder
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do people still use rollerballs???

ashen crater
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youd be surprised

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they have some use in digital art

dapper adder
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also honestly idk if there's even a proper name for either one since googling "Rollerball mouse" just gives me what i consider trackballs?

ashen crater
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idk

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but i know what youre talking about, my grandma used to have one too if it says anything

dapper adder
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and "trackball mouse" gives what i consider as trackballs as well lol

ashen crater
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trackball mouse replace the scroll wheel no?

dapper adder
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no

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you roll the ball to move the cursor

ashen crater
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oh wow i never actually knew that lmao

dapper adder
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they're honestly kinda nice

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and are used for productivity

ashen crater
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yee

dapper adder
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terrible for gaming though lol

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like you said

ashen crater
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i wonder why ong

dapper adder
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but these things? these got gunked up so often and you would only be able to move the cursor in one direction

ashen crater
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but no, balls that are in replacement of the optic sensor

dapper adder
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so you had to pop the ball out and clean up the wheels

ashen crater
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i just know people who find them superior

dapper adder
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those people are crazy ong

ashen crater
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i cant say i disagree with you lmao

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i like classic sensor

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actually trackpads could use more innovation imo

dapper adder
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i wonder if a teflon trackpad would be better than glass
because if your finger is very slightly moist, even on glass it kinda sticks

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idk if teflon works on fingers though lol

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glass trackpads are great for perfectly dry hands though

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so much better than the older/cheaper plastic ones

ashen crater
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teflon release pretty rough chemicals when scratched tho

dapper adder
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i sure hope you arent eating on your trackpad

ashen crater
dapper adder
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also mouse glides are usually teflon/ptfe (ptfe is just the generic name)

west hornet
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I though they were supposed to be designed as plates?

dapper adder
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plates?

west hornet
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Yeah like to eat on

dapper adder
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oh

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real

west hornet
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Thats why people get glass pads right?

ashen crater
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looked it up, looks like my understanding of teflon based on what my parents told me is outdated

dapper adder
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i got confused for a sec lmfao

ashen crater
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teflon used to contain PFOA

dapper adder
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the thing about teflon being bad was 1. from like a decade ago now, and 2. it was specific to pans lol

ashen crater
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im a sponge for bad information what can i say

dapper adder
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the heat from cooking would release and leach pfoas, as well as scratches, i dont think a mousepad would get hot enough?

west hornet
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Idk california might still slap a warning on teflon products

dapper adder
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cooking with teflon still does have some health concerns outside of toxic substances released

ashen crater
dapper adder
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microplastics from scratching the pan is still possible

ashen crater
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my parents use teflon pans

dapper adder
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and yeah teflon pans can only go up to like 400f safely

ashen crater
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i might need to bring it up to them rip

west hornet
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We started using cast iron pans again

dapper adder
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it's not an immediate health concern anymore, but stainless steel pans >>>

ashen crater
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god we have like 6 cast iron pans

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i have to rip them out of the oven when they store em in there

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my step dad was a chef of 30 years

dapper adder
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there actually has been some recent concerns about cast iron and carbon steel pans, due to the raw iron/steel may contain some heavy metals that have been leaching into food (from some lab testing)

ashen crater
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would make sense, i have a lot of experience with learning about steel types ever since i worked at Knifeworks lmao

dapper adder
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i still cook with them, and the amount leached was still relatively low (just a bit over the legal limit iirc)

ashen crater
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just a smidge illegal

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slightly deadly

dapper adder
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and i mainly use stainless steel which has also been tested to not leach, at least nowhere near the same amount

ashen crater
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what happens if i cook leeches on a stainless steel pan

west hornet
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At some point or another im pretty sure there have been potential health concerns with every pan imaginable, just cook it on your hand

dapper adder
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the horror

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real

ashen crater
west hornet
dapper adder
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Why Were the Matfer Bourgeat Skillets Recalled in France?

Certain lots (batches) of Matfer Bourgeat’s Black Steel skillets were tested in France, where they are manufactured, by a regional regulatory agency, the Direction Départementale de la Protection des Populations (DDPP) of Isère. The agency found that when a mild acidic solution was heated in pans from these batches, arsenic, chromium, and iron leached out in excess of standards recommended by the European Union. Because all three of these metals are considered harmful to humans at the levels found, the skillets were recalled in France. Matfer has appealed this decision, and it maintains that its skillets comply with the safety and testing standards established by the French General Directorate for Competition, Consumer Affairs and Fraud Control (DGCCRF) and the EU.
https://www.americastestkitchen.com/articles/8342-all-about-the-matfer-bourgeat-recall

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they only recalled in france though, since they were the only one to require them to recall

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the US doesnt have any laws in regards of legal limits of heavy metal leaching

west hornet
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Makes sense

dapper adder
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which was a fact that i learned from this recall lol
the law only sets maximum amount in produced food, and not the cookware

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so you can technically make a pan out of lead and sell it as a pan

ashen crater
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i love poison

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adds character

dapper adder
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neurotoxins add flavour

west hornet
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It really does

ashen crater
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just like Ma used to make em 🥹

dapper adder
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lead makes pasta taste better

ashen crater
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i make pasta taste better

dapper adder
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after they got rid of the leaded pipes my pasta has never been the same

ashen crater
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i prefer my tomato salads on lead plates

soft dune
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I want to get a stainless steel pan

dapper adder
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they're absolutely worth it

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you might even find a steal of a deal at a thrift shop

soft dune
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Is the fast heat dissipation quirk they complain about really that big of a deal or is that something that varies from pan to pan

ashen crater
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i need a lot of cooking stuff for when i move out, my stepdad has a mortar and pestle he got handmade from jamaica and its my favourite thing ever

dapper adder
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stainless steel doesnt have a high thermal conductivity, which is why pans have interlayers made of something like alu or copper to spread the heat better

ashen crater
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either layering or the alloy base it consists of

soft dune
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Nah like how the pan will cool down a lot when you put food on it

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Is it really that bad or nah

ashen crater
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uhh

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no not really

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depends on your use case i suppose?

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and the pan again

soft dune
dapper adder
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as long as it's 3 layers, any stainless steel pan will be fine
if you have a weak wrist, pans with just the layers on the bottom of the pan is fine

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because a full clad pan does get somewhat heavy

ashen crater
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god i kept trying to click the pencil to edit my message and yall kept sending messages

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was chasing that lil mf

dapper adder
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lmfao

soft dune
dapper adder
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right click edit

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or press up arrow

ashen crater
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too true

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but im archaeic

dapper adder
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💀

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if you were truly archaic you would be using just a keyboard frfr

ashen crater
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if i were truly archaic id be sending these via papyrus and camel

dapper adder
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if you were truly archaic you wouldnt know how to speak or write

ashen crater
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if i were truly archaic id uh

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id be uh

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uh

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probably not alive tbh

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id be soup

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primordial soup

dapper adder
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amoeba

ashen crater
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anonenneme

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enanemnenmone

west hornet
ashen crater
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i mean

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TECHNICALLY

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it kinda is a peripheral ngl

dapper adder
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real

ashen crater
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"Relating to or situated on the edge or periphery of something." a pan does come second to the food ong

dapper adder
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dont yall have a stove and pans next to your gaming setup

ashen crater
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many

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my setup is actually in the sink

dapper adder
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real

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hey, some people also have a fridge

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why not a whole kitchen

ashen crater
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and my mouse is currently under the fridge

ashen crater
dapper adder
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lmao

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if i had a fridge in my room

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i would have a full size fridge

ashen crater
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hermit

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never leaving the room again

dapper adder
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you cant spell mini with america

ashen crater
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bound in chains

dapper adder
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🦅 🦅

ashen crater
dapper adder
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real

ashen crater
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i can spell erm I c

dapper adder
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real

obsidian cypress
queen sigil
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keyboard almost here

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still havent thought of whats going in it

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maybe just some naevies i got sitting around

snow briar
thick garden
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I just got a used surface pen and it died on me after few days...
I tried new batteries, but they drop to .7v (they slowly go back to 1.5) and the pen heats up :[
probably a short circuit, that's quite unfortunate

dapper adder
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F

neon root
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chat, i need help with getting keycaps to match the hatsune miku pad

ashen crater
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For keycap ideas tho

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See if you can get like a leek keycap/set or something

west hornet
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You should send me that pad

queen sigil
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really should be super giga easy to find

gaunt forge
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bro theres bound to be some Miku keycaps

obsidian cypress
neon root
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very specific but was gonna try and look for white/blue keycaps with some pink like pink letters or something, if not then ill just buy 2 keycap sets and mix

tight pulsar
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blue alert!!

neon root
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just not use the bunny keycaps

soft dune
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Bunny piesmilingfacehearts

desert parrot
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So if i want good quality sound out of a pc, what’s the right move again?

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i know pci sound cards were a thing at a point

ivory fable
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So the 3.5mm jacks would be great too tbh

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If you really wanted you could get a DAC but realistically there's no noticeable difference you'd want to spend an unreasonable amount of money on headphones/speakers to notice tbh

dapper adder
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The audio moneypit

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Also if your pc audio seems terrible, it's probably either your headphones or the contacts are dirty

west hornet
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The built in audio is great until is breaks or some connections go bad, interference, etc. This is often the case with front panel jacks

desert parrot
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that makes sense

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I have sennheiser hd6xxs but i’ve noticed the audio quality is not as good sometimes

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I have it running through an apple usbc to 3.5 though so that might be why

daring zenith
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With a 6xx you can see some difference moving to a dedicated dac & amp

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Apple dongle is also an improvement over onboard audio chip too

dapper adder
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though sometimes the built in amp can power a bit more than the apple dac

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apple dac is great for iems at least

west hornet
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The built in is often not as clean though

dapper adder
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true

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i would consider it "good enough" category
you will be able to listen to music well enough, and probably be able to hear 85-90%? (more of a qualitative number since i cant quantify it) of the details with a pair of good headphones and a built in dac/amp on your pc

in comparison, a good dac + dollar store headphones will likely not sound any better

vapid jay
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When it comes to buying GPUs why does it always say OC when overclocking is bad for the gpu? Do companies such as msi, gigabyte, and others overclock safely or what

west hornet
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Different companies like to set clock speed and such out of the box, i guess to try to make it look like their card has the edge

oak jungle
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And those factory overclocks ain't touching the voltage

vapid jay
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Wym

oak jungle
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They just bump the core clocks

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By a pretty small amount, something you can easily do yourself

hollow cipher
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any such thing as comfortable gaming earbuds?

dapper adder
oak jungle
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I mean, IEMs?

dapper adder
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But there are indeed comfortable earbuds

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Custom molded eartips

west hornet
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Umm there are comfortable iems out there but it very much depends on the person

hollow cipher
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surround sound

dapper adder
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No such thing as surround sound with any kind of headphones

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Only virtual surround sound at most

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But that's just a gimmick

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It would help if we had a budget to go off of

hollow cipher
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kinda want something with around the ear

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u know where it holds it on ur ear better

dapper adder
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custom molded eartips can do that

white flame
vapid jay
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what affect does rgb have on ram or in general? is it better to buy a ram stick without rgb?

white flame
white flame
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Anything that's not Corsair

hollow cipher
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basically any 6000 CL30

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look for a 6000 CL30 under $90

vapid jay
hollow cipher
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not corsair

hollow cipher
vapid jay
hollow cipher
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and corsair isnt even the cheapest

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More people have ram dying problems

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and its just overpriced and overhyped.

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they dont even make the ram themselves, ur just buying more expensive ram

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crucial, sp, g.skill

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those are good

vapid jay
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find me a good one on amazon 64 gb ram ddr5

hollow cipher
vapid jay
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microcenter any of those sites

hollow cipher
vapid jay
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?

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nvm

hollow cipher
white flame
lyric nacelle
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hay i need a good mechanical keyboard that's wired and has a numpad, back light and rgb would be nice but i don't really care that much, could care less about noise as well

key stability is nice but mainly responsiveness and durability at low cost

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$100 is my absolute max and it better have a ip68 rating or something

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also the ability to press more than 3 keys at once and have it read them all is a top priority

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Current one

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its exposed to alot of dust since its near my workbench

dapper adder
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you wont be able to get ip68 on anything but a membrane keyboard lmao

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mechanical switches are not dust nor water resistant

lyric nacelle
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think this was like $15 and its lasted like 4 years or something but its did some wierd stuff last time i spilled water on it so i want a backup for when it goes

white flame
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I recommend a keyboard cover or a membrane keyboard as mentioned

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That high of IP rating isn't possible on mechanical

lyric nacelle
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doesnt need to be but if its high cost id want it

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this curent one definetly isnt

white flame
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It's not a matter of cost, it's a matter of how they work

lyric nacelle
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if im going to spend alot on one id want it not to die from a knocked over drink

dapper adder
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keychron makes some decent options, like the c1 or v5

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not spill resistant though

lyric nacelle
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yah thats kinda a need

dapper adder
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the problem is, all the high cost keyboards are not going to be spill resistant

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only the cheap ones will be

lyric nacelle
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not submersion proof just spill

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that's fine and preferable

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any mechanical ones with like silicone underneaths to keep water from draining into switches?

dapper adder
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idk any specific recommendations, but any membrane keyboard with a barrel or whatever it was called (to keep the keys stable) should be spill resistant

lyric nacelle
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thats what i have curently

dapper adder
white flame
dapper adder
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also yeah you currently have a membrane keyboard

lyric nacelle
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so any good ones of those that are wired?

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and are known to be able to use multiple keys at once

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ive used ones that cant before and it was horible

dapper adder
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most modern membranes should have anywhere from 3-6 key rollover

lyric nacelle
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like only 3 keys then it stopped taking new inputs

white flame
lyric nacelle
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id want 6

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do mechanical ones have more?

dapper adder
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3 keys at the same time yeah, idk if there are any commercial membranes with n-key (every key on the keyboard at once) rollover

lyric nacelle
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curent one can do at least 4

white flame
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It's not specific to a certain kind of keyboard, it's up to the firmware of the keyboard to implement it because it's part of the USB standard already

dapper adder
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hmm

dapper adder
white flame
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No it's a limit of the USB standard only being able to handle 8 bits per packet, 2 bits per key

dapper adder
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somebody told me before, but i never fact checked it so idk lmfao

white flame
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But they fixed that ages ago by basically encoding the output differently

lyric nacelle
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Kaihl box switches??

dapper adder
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those are mechanical

lyric nacelle
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ip56 rated

dapper adder
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hmm

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where did you see that rating

lyric nacelle
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a ip54 rating would also be fine

dapper adder
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that doesnt seem like an official listing i feel like?

lyric nacelle
white flame
# lyric nacelle

That's only for the internal metal contacts of the key, not for the external connector to the keyboard

daring zenith
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main problem is still going to be getting water on the pcb, not the switches

lyric nacelle
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oof

dapper adder
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huh

lyric nacelle
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well any idea of good pcb's?

daring zenith
white flame
lyric nacelle
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also wired is a must

dapper adder
# lyric nacelle

interesting, the switches are made to be dust and water resistant
that's pretty interesting lmao
though msrp is $36 for 110 box jades

daring zenith
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not too sure of any commercially available mechanical keyboard that actually makes the pcb waterproof

white flame
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You'd have to custom cut and fit waterproofing yourself

lyric nacelle
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really just need a case that wont let water get into it in first place

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just spills not submersion

rigid valve
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can't you purchase waterproofing spray or sum

dapper adder
# white flame Here's a funny thing for you, that website makes absolutely no claims of IP rati...

seems like they did say ip54, no idea where the az listing found 56 though lmao
honestly ip56 rated keyboard switches would be kinda crazy 💀 https://www.kailh.net/blogs/news/kailh-box-switches-buying-guide#:~:text=Dust-proof and water-proof

Kailh switch

Kailh BOX switches have a unique structure and sound profile. If you are looking to replace your existing keyboard switches, this article will definitely help you decide if you should buy the Kailh Box switches.

white flame
dapper adder
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fr

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if you know for a fact you're gonna spill crap on your keyboard

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might as well get something easily cleaned

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especially if you spill a soda or something

lyric nacelle
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well yah but i need it not to die so i get a chance to clean it lol

dapper adder
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which the keyboard falcie sent should survive since it's ipx8 rated

lyric nacelle
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medical rated one might be cool but who knows how expensive that is or what the role over is

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yah, i book marked it, but its not a full sized one

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i like hitting enter with my mouse hand once and a while

dapper adder
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all your requirements + splash resistant for only $100 is a bit of a hard sell

lyric nacelle
dapper adder
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also the sealshield keyboard does have a numpad

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it's a bit more compact though

white flame
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They have other models of sealshield ones

lyric nacelle
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high role over, dust and splash resistant, wired, and has numpad

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oh lol it does

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this one is cool

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dishwasher safe XD

dapper adder
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dishwasher safe is definitely one of those selling points i'd never expect to actually see listed on a keyboard

lyric nacelle
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wish it had key lights but whatever

dapper adder
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ltt did do a video of dishwashing keyboards before, though you had to make sure they dried fully before you could use them again

lyric nacelle
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also nothing about key role over

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huh

white flame
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Most keyboards don't mention it because it's literally part of the USB spec now

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The firmware dev has to go out of their way to disable it if anything

lyric nacelle
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ok

white flame
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Key rollover is the ability of a computer keyboard to correctly handle several simultaneous keystrokes. A keyboard with n-key rollover (NKRO) can correctly detect input from each key on the keyboard at the same time, regardless of how many other keys are also being pressed. Keyboards that lack full rollover will register an incorrect keystroke w...

lyric nacelle
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what about k68 corsair?

white flame
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The corsair is only IP32, not dust resistant at all

lyric nacelle
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its a bit more then i wanted but its got lights and garenteed 10 key rollover

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either that or the seal sheild

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considering they did this themselves it should be plenty for a cup or bottle

white flame
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I'm generally anti-razer mostly because they have awful software that hogs resources and they overcharge for everything, but it's ultimately your choice

lyric nacelle
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and im worried the other one is using outdated stuff

white flame
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Outdated? It's a button

dapper adder
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the blackwidow ultimate is an old keyboard, also i have to agree with the software (also a razer keyboard user, only still using it since i use my stuff till it dies)

lyric nacelle
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i cant find key rollover for it and one of them said usb 2.0

white flame
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I'm literally still using a PS/2 keyboard from 1999

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It's even wireless

lyric nacelle
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really don't want to get stuck with only 3 key rollover is my worry

dapper adder
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you are 99% not going to saturate a 2.0 connection lmao

lyric nacelle
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i need wired

white flame
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I know you said that I'm just saying that's what I have

lyric nacelle
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yah

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i should send seal shield a email about key rollover

white flame
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Definitely worth an email

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You'll get an idea of their support quality too that way

lyric nacelle
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how much nicer is mechanical then membrane tho?

white flame
#

It depends on what you need it for

dapper adder
#

membranes have the flaw of needing to be bottomed out to register

#

most people type by bottoming out the keys though

white flame
#

If you're gaming and you need instant key register that's where mech shines

dapper adder
#

i'd say less noticable on chiplet keys

#

unless you want the like really sensitive hall effect switches, which would be way more sensitive

lyric nacelle
#

i do like to game, that and cad is all i realy do with my pc

white flame
#

Hall effect are amazing for gamers, you can configure the travel distance to your liking, and sometimes you can per key depending on software

dapper adder
#

should specify for competitive games specifically

lyric nacelle
#

i've been tempted by the hand shaped keyboards before just cause keybinds

dapper adder
#

less noticable on more casual games

lyric nacelle
#

minecraft and helldivers

#

modded minecraft so i run out of easy to reach keys very fast

dapper adder
#

minecraft wouldnt matter unless you're playing those really sweaty minigames, idk about helldivers since i havent played

#

specifically in terms of if membrane would make a noticable difference

lyric nacelle
#

i reliably 5 star hell dive so i dont think it would matter much

dapper adder
#

oh yeah right, you already use a membrane

white flame
#

Helldivers isn't going to care what keyboard you use

lyric nacelle
#

its more the ability to set multi key keybinds that im concerned about

dapper adder
#

so yeah overall in terms of keyswitch types specifically, you can continue with membrane to keep the water resistance

#

you can do that with any keyboard

#

almost

white flame
#

Macro software

lyric nacelle
#

not if seal shield doesn't have newer role over standards

dapper adder
#

also you can have 2 keyboards, one dedicated to just macros or whatever

lyric nacelle
#

guess i could just get a programable stand alone

#

idk, ill keep those 2 bookmarked

#

i might need 2 keyboards anyway but idk if id get 2 nice ones just for that

#

i use my pc as a tv so i have one keyboard and mouse at my couch and one at my desk

#

4 screens

#

and sometimes i use multi seat for freinds to play modded minecraft with me

#

could free up some keys by geting a mouse with keys too

#

Got the world's most plane mouse rn lol

dapper adder
#

not only plain, it's also kinda terrible (low polling rate)
though also built like a tank, and usually the only thing that breaks on those are the wire lmao

lyric nacelle
#

yah got it for my laptop but my cheap $15 "gaming mouse" broke

#

any solid wired mice recommendations? maybe with one or 2 extra buttons but still lightish

dapper adder
#

does it... also need to be splash resistant lmao

lyric nacelle
#

no lol

#

mice are round enough that it should be fine already

dapper adder
#

not really

#

most mice also arent splash resistant lol

#

also an issue with the switches and pcb

lyric nacelle
#

plus it tends to be the mouse hand knocking drinks towards the keyboard or whatever

#

so its splashing away from the mouse

#

I eat most my meals at my pc

dapper adder
#

lmao

#

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B091BMFL15 should be plenty for your use, and cheap enough to not care if it gets killed by a spill

#

ugly lighting though lmao

lyric nacelle
#

thats fine lol

#

thanks

calm cobalt
#

What iem should I go for? Getting tired of using AirPods and them not lasting as long as I’d like

bold crescent
#

mouse recommendations? wireless budget about 60 euro

vapid jay
#

does each motherboard vary with the amount of ram sticks slots or do they all have 4 slots

dapper adder
#

most have 4 slots but some have more or less depending on the chipset and size

#

almost all motherboards that you will encounter are only dual channel however

vapid jay
dapper adder
#

2x32 of you must, but for gaming 2x24 is more than enough

#

Honestly even 32gb (2x16) should be enough for most people

vapid jay
#

i heard having more channels is faster

#

this true?

dapper adder
#

Technically yes but every modern consumer platform is dual channel

#

You can't get more

#

Unless you go to a workstation or server platform

white flame
#

4 sticks will always run slower than 2

#

What used to be faster was dual rank on DDR4

#

On DDR5 ranks make no difference and dual rank can actually be slower

calm cobalt
hollow cipher
dapper adder
hollow cipher
queen sigil
#

shoutout donald trump for delaying my keyboard

hollow cipher
#

What company?

queen sigil
#

QK

#

its a Neo Ergo

desert parrot
#

my mom thought i was getting scammed when i ordered a tkl keyboard. she said it was way too small and that there needs to be a keypad. you poor, sweet, innocent soul

#

wait till she sees a 60% keyboard

queen sigil
#

ok

soft dune
#

fr

dapper adder
#

ong fr

lyric nacelle
queen sigil
#

for 100$ 💀

#

have u just tried not spilling stuff all over uer keyboard

dapper adder
#

Real

soft dune
#

dishwasher safe keyboard

#

i never thought i would have seen that ever in my life

ashen crater
#

Its for the extra greasy grimers so they dont need to lick their fingers when eating cheetos

soft dune
#

Just eat using the bag

dapper adder
#

Unironically I eat crisps with chopsticks

ashen crater
queen sigil
#

i love buying keyboards

gaunt forge
#

I keep hearing about Kickstarters announcing keyboards. Imagine waiting 2 years preordering a keyboard that theoretically might be good

#

(I did that with gaming mice tbf)

dapper adder
#

that was basically what happened with the model f reproductions

#

preorders started a few years before he managed to faithfully recreate the model f and start production

queen sigil
#

when the kickstarter is bad sleep

#

what i ordered ain’t even a gb

#

it’s just taking forever

thorn grove
#

which keeb

prime terrace
#

Howdy everyone. I have a work PC and a home PC, and wanted an easy way to switch between my monitors which use DP.

So I bought this fella: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DTDG6NM3

Problem is, it works fine on my normal PC, no issues. But on my work PC, it makes windows explorer constantly reset, and all apps work fine, but like.. Pulling up settings is a slog, or even right clicking to try and get to settings stalls. Does anyone know what could cause this?

dapper adder
#

amazon reviews certainly are glowing lol (only 2.0 stars 💀)

#

tbh i'm not sure if the issue is caused by this

#

does your work pc work fine the moment you directly connect the pc to the monitor

prime terrace
prime terrace
#

I should've listened to the reviews

dapper adder
#

that certainly is suspicious

#

i wonder if it's just a bunch of display latency? unless somehow the entire pc is lagging because of it

prime terrace
#

Yeah, I think I'm trying to over-engineer a problem I don't really have by using the KVM.

prime terrace
#

It's a pretty beefy PC

dapper adder
#

maybe try lowering the refresh rate

prime terrace
#

I could do that.

#

One sec, lemme switch over.

daring zenith
#

it may be windows doing something funky and not recognizing the device correctly and whenever you open settings it might keep trying and failing to get device drivers or smth

prime terrace
dapper adder
#

definitely possible

prime terrace
#

Woops

#

I keep getting a popup for gigabytes sidekick thing

#

on my work comp

#

Yeah it's wild. I click on settings and it just freezes.

#

maybe thats the issue

dapper adder
prime terrace
#

Thanks much! I greatly appreciate all the help

autumn terrace
#

model o or g305 (mice)?

dapper adder
#

iirc the model o has terrible qc

#

i have the 305 and it's pretty good for the price

daring zenith
#

Model o mouse wheel squeak is annoying

autumn terrace
#

gotcha

soft dune
#

Last night I was having ring finger discomfort with my fingertip grip

#

Is my mouse really too small?

#

I was looking this stuff up and thats what it seems like

neon root
#

just get smaller hands

dapper adder
#

im gonna play the worlds smallest violin

soft dune
#

fr

queen sigil
#

actually losing it rn

#

i just want my damn keyboard

thorn grove
#

installed the wooting x ttc kom pom switches

steel spire
#

what do i do

#

i ripped it off

#

by accident

#

when i

#

put it back in

#

the thing

#

and push hard enough

#

it works

#

if i push really hard

#

is that a good sign?

white flame
#

Get a cable with the same audio jack and splice the wires

#

Looks to be a 4 pole 3.5mm jack

dapper adder
#

Trrs

dapper adder
steel spire
#

i dont have something to solder with

dapper adder
#

Soldering iron is 100% worth the like 30 bucks for a pinecil or such

#

If you can't solder then you can't really spice the cables together securely either

steel spire
#

am definetly gonna buy one when i get a job

#

but as long as am using my parent's money , the Soldering iron has to wait

#

few months left and am gonna become 18

dapper adder
#

That's fair

#

You can also ask if your parents have some old soldering iron stashed somewhere though

#

Maybe they have one from their parents or such lol

steel spire
#

they definitly don't

#

small aparentment , i would have found it

#

i always keep losing stuff

dapper adder
#

Oh well

steel spire
#

so i pretty much seen every part of the house

#

but i really love DIY , ill just wait till am old enough to get a job or something

#

and buy everything i need

plain quiver
#

Idk if it works here, but does anyone have any suggestions for decent quality webcams?

white flame
#

What budget? A common suggestion is an old DSLR camera with video out

plain quiver
dapper adder
#

Suggestion 1: phone camera
Suggestion 2: old ish point and shoot camera with micro HDMI or usb video out (micro HDMI out requires a capture card)
Suggestion 3: old mirrorless or dlsr (also usually requires a capture card)

#

Budget of 60 bucks should be able to do suggestion 2 fairly easily

#

Phone camera is free though (assuming you have a phone, which is notably not free)

pale cosmos
#

Or that little razer kiyo x one

#

That's not too bad for a dedicated $60 one

oak jungle
#

Canon has software for using your DSLR as a webcam

pale cosmos
#

No software needed

dapper adder
#

You could probably find a old 1080p (or better) point and shoot for like 30-50 bucks and then a capture card for 5 ish

dapper adder
#

Only certain lines

oak jungle
#

Yeah might only be newer ones

oak jungle
#

This has a compatibility list

#

Yeah off the top of my head I don't think you're finding any of those for under $60

neon root
#

some "older" canon cameras are compatible too. sony i believe also has software similar for their cameras and i think nikon? might be wrong with them

dapper adder
#

I think so

#

But cheap capture cards are also like a dime a dozen for a good enough one

#

($5)

plain quiver
#

Thank you guys. I'll look into this!!!

vapid jay
#

i never had a problem with running roblox and fortnite at the same time. now my ram runs at 93-96% and my game freezes really bad. i have 16gb ram. do i need more?

dapper adder
#

yes

#

16gb isnt much in 2025

vapid jay
dapper adder
#

32gb (2x16gb) should be enough for most games
If you want more, then 48gb (2x24gb) should be good

dapper adder
#

Only slightly, but 2x24 is the highest you can go without any performance penalties

vapid jay
#

does rgb generate more heat?

dapper adder
#

As in it's the highest you can go before your memory controller in the cpu may start struggling

#

Yes

#

Though usually not too relevant

vapid jay
#

this good?

dapper adder
#

No

vapid jay
#

why

dapper adder
#

Multiple reasons
Reason 1: the timings/clock are pretty low
Reason 2: it's Corsair

vapid jay
#

which brand is good?

dapper adder
#

Pretty much every other brand but silicon power is a good value

#

Generally

dapper adder
#

They have a reputation of either being cheap but really terrible bins that even their own xmp profiles are unstable
Or they have decent chips but are way overpriced

dapper adder
#

Better

vapid jay
#

find me a good one (64gb)

vapid jay
#

which one would recommend? mine or the one you sent

obsidian cypress
obsidian cypress
#

granted when working I have about anywhere from 50-100 tabs open but still.

plain quiver
#

$80 base + discount and a lil coupon

#

so im happy, it came in today and looks quite nice fortunately

dapper adder
#

Crucial is micron's brand
They're generally decent

vapid jay
ashen crater
#

micron

vapid jay
#

Oh

#

I dunno what that is

#

😆

ashen crater
#

I believe theyre associated with intel

#

A lot of brands really

#

They do chips

#

Ram

vapid jay
ashen crater
#

I think sillcon are generally just cheaper for a pretty equivalent product

#

but that also depends on the specifics

#

no one brand is better

#

look at the products specifically

#

99% of computer stuff is to that memo

#

for example there are some gigabyte boards id recommend but by god never touch their psus lmao

#

brand loyalty doesnt give you the best bang for your buck, because 9 times outta ten the brand aint loyal to you

vapid jay
#

These are in my cart. Which one should I. Get

ashen crater
#

curious what youre using 64 gigs for

vapid jay
#

Ok listen to me

ashen crater
#

listening Sip

vapid jay
#

I used to be able to play two games at once with no problem that was being Roblox and Fortnite but yesterday, however when I was playing Fortnite while Roblox was running in the background at low settings, Fortnite decided it wanted to start FPS spiking and the trees weren’t loading in game. I also checked my task manager and noticed that my RAM was a 93%.

#

I also play Microsoft flight simulator but I also never had a prop me with that

ashen crater
#

how many gigs you running now?

#

also theres more than just ram being that bottleneck there

#

cpu is a big one

vapid jay
vapid jay
ashen crater
#

except for corsair vengeance, those often show up DOA

vapid jay
#

I just want to have ram that will sustain me for a long time

ashen crater
# vapid jay 16 GB

lol yeah just go for 2x16 or 2x24 then, i have so much running with those and i never reach the limit

ashen crater
#

unless youre doing workstation stuff its not worth the money

vapid jay
#

The ones that I sent are they good sod

#

Speed

ashen crater
#

are you running am4 or am5?

#

or intel

#

the speed itself is fine but id recommend cl30 typically

vapid jay
#

Prome*

#

Prime

ashen crater
#

prime doesnt tell me much there

#

do you know your cpu?

vapid jay
#

That’s the one

vapid jay
#

RTx 2070 super

#

Again, it’s a prebuilt off of Amazon for $2000 that I bought six years ago ish

#

This is my first gaming PC and I plan to upgrade soon

ashen crater
#

ah okay thats a ddr4 gen, that ram isnt gonna work for ya

vapid jay
#

How do you know

ashen crater
#

because different cpu gen boards have different ram support

#

its an older platform

west hornet
#

9th gen intel doesn't support ddr5

ashen crater
#

ghosty you got any good recs for ddr4

west hornet
#

I think ddr5 started at 12th gen for intel

ashen crater
vapid jay
#

But doesn’t the motherboard matter aswell?

ashen crater
#

no wait its 12th

#

im insane lol

west hornet
ashen crater
west hornet
#

yeah so if you upgraded the cpu you would have to upgrade the mobo as well, they changed the socket entirely

vapid jay
ashen crater
#

again 64 is a bit overkill

#

especially if you plan on getting a new system

west hornet
#

depends what you are doing with the system

ashen crater
#

hes gamin

#

no workstation stuff

west hornet
#

for general use or even games 64gb is overkill, i'd say 32gb max. after that I'd rather upgrade the whole system

ashen crater
#

^

#

also with the stuttering hes experiencing i still think its the cpu being the hitch

west hornet
#

also unfortunately you probably won't get great performance running multiple high demanding games at once, that is not just a ram limitation

ashen crater
#

yee

#

if only it were that simple lol

#

id just stick to your 16 gig kit probs and wait til you can upgrade

west hornet
#

roblox and fortnite shouldn't be an issue with the cpu, I run more demanding games on a 9900k. still a very capable cpu

ashen crater
#

oh no its a good ass cpu

vapid jay
#

here some fun for you guys

ashen crater
#

i mean the ram upgrade could be worth if you can get a cheap 32 gig kit

west hornet
#

do you have xmp or a custom oc on the ram? looks a bit odd

ashen crater
#

yee

west hornet
#

though idk how accurate that data would be

vapid jay
#

i want to get a ddr5 system with the latest 2025 specs but i plan on upgrading during the summer when prices drop a lil

ashen crater
#

curious if theyd enable xmp

#

they should, id be surprised if they dont

dapper adder
#

I mean, it's cyberpowerpc
I wouldn't be surprised

vapid jay
#

so should i upgrade in the first place or wait for summer or what

ashen crater
#

might honestly be worth checking bios and seeing if xmp is enabled

#

or google how to do that

dapper adder
#

I mean

#

Ram is a decent upgrade? 16gb is kinda rough nowadays

ashen crater
#

itd be a nice upgrade, but that would be a free upgrade if its not on lol

#

but yeah 16 gigs is a bit rough

ashen crater
#

how soon is soon?

vapid jay
#

summer

ashen crater
#

id honestly hold off on the ram upgrade then

#

thats money that could be put towards that

dapper adder
#

I remember back in the day, I started with 2gb ram, wishing I had 4gb and all my problems would be solved
And then fast forward a few years, and I had 4gb ram
And I wished I had 8gb ram
And then another like 2 years go by and I had 8gb ram
And I wished I had 16
And then I had 16gb, and I wished I had 32gb

shadow bane
#

Yeah I'd say move to a ddr5 system and carry over gpu, then upgrade gpu when you feel like it

#

Tbf 32gb ddr4 is really cheap

dapper adder
#

And then I have 32gb, and I wish for more

ashen crater
dapper adder
#

Beamng eats ram

shadow bane
#

Yeah

ashen crater
#

if you plan on keeping your old system for other uses

#

could be worth having it hang around with a ram upgrade

#

server use and stuff if youre willing to put time and effort it

vapid jay
ashen crater
#

yeah flick that on bud rq

vapid jay
ashen crater
#

itll let your ram run at advertised speed

dapper adder
#

How much would you trust the PSU in a cyberpowerpc prebuilt

ashen crater
#

shame on cyberpower

dapper adder
ashen crater
#

turning on xmp is one of the first things you do with new builds

vapid jay
#

shbould i still consider a 32 or 64gb tho?

ashen crater
#

what do you plan on doing with this pc after you upgrade?

vapid jay
#

good question

#

i dont have a good answer

#

i guess backup

ashen crater
#

do you plan on transferring any parts to a new system?

#

or building from the ground up

#

with pcs you have the option to reuse parts so take advantage of that

vapid jay
#

but prices rn are kinda crazy like 1.5k for a 4070

ashen crater
#

id hold off on buying a gpu. and nvidia isnt really worth the money nowadays, amd is kinda the only not entirely scam choice atm

#

7800xt for 450-500 would be pretty good if you can find that

#

intel cpus are kinda in a rough spot as well, their recent gens have been a bust

#

rn the best value for money honestly is a full amd build

#

i wish i could recommend intel b580 but those driver overheads are 💀

#

what kind of money do you plan on spending on a new rig?

vapid jay
#

3k

ashen crater
#

oh pft yeah you have pretty free roam for options, 1/3rd of that could easily go into upgrades that arent even the pc itself

#

@shadow bane got any good prices on xtx or 4080/4080s?

shadow bane
#

Unfortunately not

#

5070 ti is the best bet atm, or wait for the 9070xt

ashen crater
#

rip

#

i dont think i trust recommending 50 series atm

#

because you cant always rely on someone like gn to swoop in and make up for their mistakes

steel spire
#

i toke the headset to a nearby tech store

#

the prices of replacement were way too high

#

i also can make the headphone work by pinching it with a wrench

#

this works really well , if its risky to try splicing it , i could just use it like that untill i figure something better out

white flame
#

Don't get cheapo Amazon crimps, they fall apart

steel spire
vapid jay
shadow bane
#

Depends on the task/game, but it can be around 10%

#

Especially in 1% lows

#

There's not really any reason to go ddr4 for a new system unless you're on a tight budget or need a ton of ram

vapid jay
shadow bane
#

The lowest fps your game drops to

vapid jay
#

oh

shadow bane
#

Theres a more technichal way to explain it

vapid jay
#

when it comes to ram for ex 32gb

shadow bane
#

I'm not capable of that explanation right now

vapid jay
#

is it better to buy 2x16 or 4x8

shadow bane
#

2x16

#

8gb ddr5 sticks suck and 4 sticks of ram isn't good on ddr5 as well

vapid jay
#

i heard on a yt vid that its better to have more ram sticks cuz its like a highway with more lanes

shadow bane
#

Nahh

#

That was a tiny bit true on previous gens

#

Very not true on ddr5

vapid jay
#

how abt ddr4

shadow bane
#

Too hard on the cpu to run 4 sticks at those speeds

vapid jay
#

cuz my motherboard is ddr4

shadow bane
#

Depends on your cpu and mobo

#

If it'll handle the same speed with 4 sticks, probably that

vapid jay
#

Can this have anything to do with ram? This is how my facebook page is loading. (only my facebook page cuz i got no other social media)

vapid jay
shadow bane
#

Yeah you need more

vapid jay
#

These are the tabs that I have open rn and google is here

#

how much would you say

#

32gb or 64gb

#

i sometime have up to 8 tabs open on chrome

#

and i play 2 games at once

#

but i also plan to upgrade my pc during the summer if prices go down but i want to slightly upgrade my current one rn with ram ro smg

vapid jay
dapper adder
#

both chrome and razer synapse

#

there goes half your ram ong frfr

vapid jay
#

yeah but that has to be open

oak jungle
#

Synapse doesn't have to be open, it can be in the background

vapid jay
oak jungle
#

Yeah only 68mb from synapse

vapid jay
#

yeah

#

so its not that

#

its roblox and fort

#

but i afk roblox games

#

so i just need to buy more ram and thats it

oak jungle
#

I mean, I don't understand why you would run Fortnite + Roblox + chrome but yeah more ram would likely help

#

You could also try a different browser that has better idle tab management

oak jungle
#

"play" afk games lol

vapid jay
#

you know what i mean

oak jungle
#

Yes and I think afk games are stupid. But yeah if you want to do all that, more ram should help

oak jungle
#

32 should be plenty, that's double what you have now

west hornet
#

You could also try closing chrome?

#

3.5gb in a 16g system is insane for a browser. Even for chromium I haven’t seen that high with other demanding apps

vapid jay
west hornet
#

I mean I usually have a dozen active tabs

#

Still why would you absolutely need your browser open if you are playing 2 games at once? I feel like that is enough to focus on in a given time lol

vapid jay
#

school

#

im a heavy multitasker

west hornet
#

That’s just inefficient

vapid jay
oak jungle
oak jungle
#

School + YouTube + Roblox + Fortnite

west hornet
#

If you are adding it it might not work with xmp, if you are replacing with a new kit you would have to set the xmp in bios

vapid jay
#

I am gonna buy new ram so i have to set it up?

pale cosmos
#

Please don't suggest adding

#

Always use one kit of ram alone

#

It almost ALWAYS causes problems

#

And definitely causes problems on ddr5

west hornet
#

Yeah I wasn't suggesting it, just trying to clarify

pale cosmos
#

Okie

#

Just makin sure

vapid jay
#

liek this for ex

#

but obviously not corsair

west hornet
#

yeah that's fine

neon root
#

i need grado to make iems or something

#

been using them for the past month and switching back to iems for gaming and man i miss the grados already

west hornet
#

I should've tried grado at canjam

#

been meaning to try them out

neon root
#

ive been really enjoying them aside from the thin foam pads that they use. i need those really big foam pads that make on ear headphones to over ear headphones

dapper adder
#

Only thing I hate is the nonreplacable cable without resoldering

#

My friend modded it to have a 3.5mm jack

neon root
#

that too. cable feels nice but is a bit annoying too

tight pulsar
#

shoutout my hd 6xxs

#

they just work

vapid jay
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Is this bad?

soft dune
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My dt770 still going after 5 years of abuse piesmilingfacehearts piesmilingfacehearts piesmilingfacehearts

neon root
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i like my hd 6xx but i like the sound profile a bit more of my grados

daring zenith
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not very fast

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very slow in the context of ddr4 3200

vapid jay
# daring zenith it's 22-22-22

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Are these good?

vapid jay
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G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series (Intel XMP) DDR4 RAM 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MT/s CL18-22-22-42 1.35V Desktop Computer Memory UDIMM - Black (F4-3600C18D-32GVK) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081374T3G?psc=1&ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_ct_A5N0R22VM2G1QJTABWW0&language=en_US

daring zenith
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3600c18 is better, but what are you using it with?

ashen crater
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its wasted money

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for what you want

oak jungle
ashen crater
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^

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i dont remember schoolwork

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i dont mean this in a mean way but he comes off as an older gentleman to me

vapid jay
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my profile pic doesnt mean anything

daring zenith
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I mean what CPU lol

vapid jay
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i9 9900k

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@ 3.6ghz

daring zenith
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2x32 3600c18 should be fine

vapid jay
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ok

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cuz i constasntly run at 85-95% rn

ashen crater
vapid jay
vapid jay
ashen crater
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64 shouldn't even be a consideration for what you want

sharp sun
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Hey guys, looking to sell my Logitech G910 and either buy new or trade for a G912-13. I had a look at ebay for values and am seeing anywhere from 50-100 dollars. My keyboard is in perfect shape, it just needs a really good cleaning. any idea on value or where to start?

ashen crater
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if you can fix her up and get 100 bucks id grab a bridge75

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or a rainy75

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half the price of that keeb and a million times better

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logitech switches are.. god

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wouldnt wish them on anyone

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not to mention plastic housing and keycaps?? monsterous

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you could also get some new switches and keycaps and redo your board but im not sure if it's even worth salvaging ngl

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LOOKED IT UP WHAT DOES IT NOT EVEN HAVE HOT SWAP HUHH??

sharp sun
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i like the board but it doesnt have swappible keys and they are extremely loud

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and i dont need all the macro keys lol

ashen crater
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if you want rgb puke there are plenty of better ways to get it ngl

ashen crater
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also macro keys are dorky

sharp sun
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not on the 910 at least, i dont think

ashen crater
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if they arent i banish logitech to the shadow realm

sharp sun
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the uh, Bridge 75 is a 60% lol

ashen crater
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noted

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anything else?

sharp sun
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yeah

ashen crater
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you like black layout?

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rgb on lettering?

sharp sun
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i like having the backlighting, and the black layout, and the rgb is really nice

ashen crater
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do you want any via compatability?

sharp sun
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ive got all Logitech perifs rn, so it would be nice to stay in the ecesystem

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well, a headset lol

ashen crater
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i would very much recommend against it

sharp sun
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ah

ashen crater
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you arent doing any favours for yourself bless your heart 😭

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logitech mice are fine

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but everything else

sharp sun
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yeah I still have the mouse from my prebuilt, I'd love a new 502 mouse

ashen crater
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i mean if it works it works

ashen crater
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theres a lot of ways you can get better value out of your money with peripherals

sharp sun
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true

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does Corsair have any decent stuff? just ordered an Rm850x to help run my new 3080 arriving at the end of the week

daring zenith
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Corsair peripherals are terrible

sharp sun
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oki

daring zenith
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Would not recommend getting anything from them peripherals wise

sharp sun
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got it

ashen crater
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rgb is fine

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but you have a lot of marketing overblow, there are a lot of good brands that get overlooked

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im tryna find a good keychron full thats in stock

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although if youre gaming why the hell would you want to use a full unless you actually use the 10 key 😭

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it just takes up mouse space

sharp sun
ashen crater
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also good fulls are difficult\

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holy no mouse room

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yeah you could really benefit from a smaller keyboard

sharp sun
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yea thats one of the reasons I am looking for something else, this board is massive

ashen crater
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how would you feel about 80% layout?

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good access to keys and still roomy enough to use for games

sharp sun
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I would miss the keypad for punching my pin in to login, but I coulg give it a shot lol

ashen crater
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it would be worth in the long run imo

daring zenith
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Keep in mind you can get a separate numpad if needed

ashen crater
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that is true too

sharp sun
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oh truw

ashen crater
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although if you get used to using your num row youll never want to get rid of it