old-cooling

[uneven solstice]

T30s look like chonk

[strange flume]

Yes, the 30 implying 30mm thick

Compared to standard 25mm

[uneven solstice]

Yeah

[azure plume]

27.3 dB (A)
67 CFM

What are the p12 pst specs?

[strange flume]

If you use rated CFM you're gonna be a bit mislead here

[steel tusk]

Rated performance is kinda trash

[azure plume]

?

[steel tusk]

Cause then you got noctua completely oblivious to CFM just being noctua

[azure plume]

So. . . How do I pick which is the best if the information is fake?

[strange flume]

There is a lot of comprehensive data out there testing real use cases of fans and how effective they are in practice

[steel tusk]

P12 5 pack

[uneven solstice]

Go with what people keep recommending to you...

[strange flume]

Cultists network has a good chunk of info

[azure plume]

Okay, so I'm guessing the T30 isn't good compared to p12 pst

[strange flume]

No T30 is good, but it costs a lot per fan

P12 is the go to because it's just overall good

[uneven solstice]

Price to performance ratio is wack compared to the p12s

[strange flume]

It has good airflow, good noise, good price

[azure plume]

Okay, so would the p12 be good for a 55mm thick radiator?

[strange flume]

Yes

[azure plume]

I want to use 4 of them for a 480mm

[uneven solstice]

Have you seen the Arctic rad?

[azure plume]

Noep

Nope*

Only seen EVGA and phanteck

[uneven solstice]

The Arctic radiator is 53mm thicc. The Arctic fans are tailored for them.

[azure plume]

Yummy

[rotund sable]

which?

[azure plume]

Let me check how thick mine is

[uneven solstice]

280

That may be with fans actually.

[rotund sable]

likely

[uneven solstice]

Ok so 33mm nvm

[rotund sable]

yea a 53mm rad is thicc

[azure plume]

The CLC is 28mm thick and made our of aluminum.

[uneven solstice]

What rad you have?

[rotund sable]

me?

[uneven solstice]

Ah arctic fans will cool that no problem.

Its recommended to swap out the fans to arctic anyways. All the time in here lol

[azure plume]

I currently have a CLC 360 with 3 sickle flow V2.

[uneven solstice]

For a clc

[strange flume]

I think the sickflows are supposed to be decent too one sec

[azure plume]

They are 10$ each.

[uneven solstice]

I believe they are. Just a little loud.

[azure plume]

Loud?

[uneven solstice]

Price doesn't mean better.

[azure plume]

Compared to the EVGA stock fans they are super quiet.

[strange flume]

Yeah there they are

[azure plume]

I'm saying they are cheap and good.

[strange flume]

3rd one on the list, sickleflows

I'm not sure if that's the same as the V2's but it probably means you'd be fine reusing the sickleflows

[azure plume]

So I made a smart purchase?

I may have accidentally said V2 and rolled with it.

Nvm. They are V2.

And now 11 dollars on Amazon.

[strange flume]

They redesigned the v2 blades, ah

[azure plume]

So more better?

[strange flume]

I could ask and find out

[azure plume]

I just check out the best advisor website and supposedly the sicklflow is better.

[strange flume]

I would definitely say they have the V1's pictured

[azure plume]

Ye

That is the V1.

So if the V1 can beat the p12 then so can the V2.

Btw. I have two 140mm fans that are p14 as intakes and they are pretty loud at 11%

[uneven solstice]

Not necessarily..

Later versions aren't always better than previous.

[uneven solstice]

I'm willing to bet that no matter what fan you get, it isn't going to alleviate your fan noisephobia.

[strange flume]

I might be wrong but I think the V2 has a revised fan shape similar to the SF120M also on that list so I imagine it's ok

In that sense I would say replacing the fans won't do much

[shrewd juniper]

No problem ☺️

[strange flume]

@azure plume V2's are better than V1's 👍

[azure plume]

Thank you!

[azure plume]

You alleviate my phobias

[topaz blaze]

Idk why but my when turning on my pc rn the fans sounded like they were at max speed? I mean it’s fine rn they’re like dormant but it’s weird

[knotty sparrow]

Fans usually ramp up on boot

[topaz blaze]

Nah but it was different this time, like worse

I think it’s fine since it’s fine rn

[strange flume]

My 5900X system occasionally does that. Different levels of fan freak out on boot lol

Sometimes max, sometimes barely even 10%

It's not something I'd worry about

[marsh badge]

^

[sacred wren]

afterburner doesnt display cpu temps

that isnt msi afterburner displaying that

that would be a different program

update drivers i guess?

[low pumice]

that is afterburner osd

Go back to afterburner settings and add them back to osd

tbh, technically it's rtss but afterburner collects the data so meh

[marsh badge]

have you restarted afterburner?

sometimes it glitches out like that

[low pumice]

in the monitoring settings, there's nothing?

and just use task manager, kill afterburner, and then start it again to restart it

what

prob igpu and dgpu

click on gpu1 usage

click show in on screen display

see what it gives you

what

you're using a laptop

prob igpu and dgpu

integrated gpu in your cpu

and dedicated gpu

settings got changed somewhere prob

I mean, you just added it back, so done...?

[marsh badge]

^

[sterile echo]

Does anyone know how much 1 slots width of extra space would affect temps on a GPU? I got a 3070 in a mATX case sitting real close to PSU shield and am wondering if should try to change the mobo to buy a single slot difference or just get a larger case

Or do I locate an FE card and ditch the chonky boy

[shrewd juniper]

Just get an atx case

Going FE and having another .5 slot with isn't gonna do much

[glass summit]

Anyone know any waterblocks for a 3080ti ftw3

Not sure if corsair has one but it showed it wasn’t compatible with my card

[knotty sparrow]

Alphacool has one https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/gpu-water-blocks/gpu-full-cover/eisblock-gpx/28349/alphacool-eisblock-aurora-acryl-gpx-n-rtx-3080/3090-ftw3-with-backplate

[outer quarry]

Ryzen master shows my cpu temp is around 30-35 c but on my msi cooler it shows my cpu temp is around 45-50 is there a fix for this

[knotty sparrow]

Your cooler is using a different sensor then, probably package instead of core

[marsh badge]

^

[outer quarry]

wym by "package instead of core" ;-;

[steel tusk]

Core temp is a temperature from a sensor basically on a core of your CPU. Package temperature is just a general sensor located elsewhere

[outer quarry]

ah ok. so the temp that ryzen master is showing me is more accurate?

[steel tusk]

Both temps are technically fully accurate

If you wanted more precise temps, then check out hwinfo64

It shows temps of all the areas and sensors

[scarlet palm]

Is it at all worth it to try to take advantage of Bernoulli’s principle when planning cooling for a case?

Trying to think of how I could implement an idea

I am going to be building something essentially like this:

http://www.deltarov.com/new/product/rov-pc-with-sunlight-monitor/

But with more cooling

I cannot identify what size pelican case this is though, but thats a topic for #cases-psu-and-cooling

[shrewd juniper]

I don't see how Bernoulli's principle would affect this at all

[dreamy locust]

🤨

[ornate kite]

Do all liquid coolers of the same size have the same amount of efficiency when it comes to cooling the cpu?

[low pumice]

No

There are crappy 360mm AIOs that good 240mm AIOs beat

[knotty sparrow]

And there's air coolers that beat an average 240mm

[scarlet palm]

I want to maximize the amount of air flowing into and out of the case

Using limited space

[noble quarry]

isnt bernoulli about fluids?

[scarlet palm]

the only options are to have a vent at the top with a fan spaced from it with a gap, or to cut a hole in the case, which I dont want to do

[low pumice]

Best airflow through limited spaces is just use air ducts and smth like delta fans

Finger chippers

[scarlet palm]

Delta fans I guess is the best that can be done

[low pumice]

Anything that goes like 3000-5000rpm do give a lot of airflow, but are also really loud

[scarlet palm]

Eh I dont mind it being a little loud

I just want to avoid cutting a hole in the case

And any new hole is another gasket to add

[sacred wren]

Don't p12s get to around 3k?

[low pumice]

No, they're like 1500rpm like most fans lol

[sacred wren]

Guess I'm remembering wrong then

[low pumice]

3k is low end with like noctua industrial fans

[sacred wren]

Smthn in hwinfo was going like 2700rpm when I was watching it the other day

Maybe 224xt fan?

[low pumice]

Who knows

[sacred wren]

Ah, not very important either way

[dreamy locust]

P12 is 1800rpm

Then there are other versions like slim or silent that have really low rpm

[uneven solstice]

P12 ARGB are 2000rpm

[undone yacht]

Could I mix 2 colors in a custom loop? I don’t want them to blend but be their own colors

Any ideas?

[knotty sparrow]

Not without blending them, that's not how homogenous fluids work

[rare rose]

I’ve seen dual loops but it’s pretty overkill I think.

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/bqpG3C

Don’t know if this is what you want

[calm timber]

Why do I get this on my monitor? It's a bad thing.

[undone yacht]

I understand but using something water based with something oil based will work. Like mineral oil and distilled water.
@rare rose

I know people use mineral something, but nothing arose like an oil based gel could possibly work

[knotty sparrow]

The fluid in a PC cooling loop needs to be homogenous for effective heat transfer to occur

Oil is too thick for a PC pump as well

And it would mix anyway, like when you shake a bottle containing oil and water it stays mixed until it separates. It would never have a chance to separate while it's running.

Mineral oil can be used for PC cooling but only as an immersion bath

And on top of all that, the reason we use distilled water and additives is that inhibits growth of bacteria and fungus. Oil would have the opposite effect, and you'd have to change it quite frequently.

[undone yacht]

Unfortunate, thanks t for your response

[modest carbon]

My aio went out and I just ordered a new one this https://www.newegg.com/corsair-liquid-cooling-system-h170i-elite-lcd/p/N82E16835181266 had some questions. I have mostly all Thermaltake quad rings in my system if I did a push pull with this aio fans up top and tt on the bottom will I run into problems if my tt max out at 1400rpm verse these at 1600? The commander says it can be used with any fans does it work with TT?

[sacred wren]

can you cancel that order

that is twice the price of what its worth

assuming you want the rgb, here https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y7wypg/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-360-a-rgb-488-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00101a

better aio and half the price

[rotund sable]

160 bucks though ouch

[shrewd juniper]

Could also go
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yLBhP6/ek-ek-aio-360-d-rgb-6604-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-ek-aio-360-d-rgb
Or
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/83vdnQ/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-420-a-rgb-689-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00109a

[rotund sable]

the evga 360clc is $80 rn lol

[shrewd juniper]

Very much the value pick great option

[rotund sable]

i guess if you want rgb and slightly quieter fans you can get one of those two lol

[shrewd juniper]

Considering they choose a c*rsair rgb one I'd say so lol

[languid orbit]

I have this. Keeps my 5800x nice and cool. 👌

[modest carbon]

The Corsair comes with the commander, is a 420 and goes with my keyboard and Icue nexus. I just want to make sure that the difference in fan speeds wouldn’t affect anything negatively. Need this to test my cpu to see if it’s good or need total upgrade beyond the new video card

Want to have the TT like they are here but upgrading them to 140 verse the 120 that was on that cooler

[sacred wren]

There's a 420 lf2

[glad sail]

anyone reccomend a good aio that looks pretty good but also has great performance. preferably white

[sacred wren]

Lian li galahad

[glad sail]

anyone know of a good sfx psu that is atleast 750 watt

[sacred wren]

evga gm i believe is sfx

either gm or ga

[glad sail]

ok thanks

[steel tusk]

Ga is ATX, believe gm was on sale recently and it's a good unif

[dreamy locust]

Are 3 noctua 40mm×20mm 5k rpm fan good enough to remove heat from a smol pc with 2600/x and stock wraith spire?

[rotund sable]

why would you use 3 40mm fans though lol

does your wraith spire not have its fan or something?

or are they supposed to be case fans?

[left pulsar]

5k rpm...

[dreamy locust]

No, the air from the cooler goes inside the small case, and I also need to take the hot air out

[rotund sable]

can i see the case lol

[dreamy locust]

It's a 3D model but ok, I'll take a few photos

I have to print it/build it with some diff materiels

[rotund sable]

oh you're making your own case?

[dreamy locust]

Yep

[rotund sable]

nice

[dreamy locust]

I'm sure you're not understanding the image, yellow: CPU cooler (spire), orange: 1070, blue: mobo, purple: 40mm fans

Top view

Btw just a random question @rotund sable why do you have 3 ranks on your profile (regular, veteran and master?)?

[sacred wren]

He hacks

[left pulsar]

Gpu is "vert mount" I suppose. Well I'd design a case to fit slightly bigger fans. 5k rpm or w/e wouldn't be fun. Even just 80 or 92mm could run way slower moving the same air

[rotund sable]

making a rackmount or something? or do you just like that form factor

Either way yea that fan setup should work fine. It'll just get really loud lol

[rotund sable]

https://tenor.com/view/its-classified-tom-cruise-classified-private-secret-gif-9579704

[dreamy locust]

What do you mean with rackmount?

[dreamy locust]

Maybe I should put the 1070 normally, making the case taller (12cm instead of 8) but less wide so I can fit 80mm fans maybe...?

[rotund sable]

i thought you were making a 2U or something

[rotund sable]

it's up to you tbh, but yea that would probably be better so you can get different fans that arent as loud

[dreamy locust]

I was already thinking in making different designs, also one for a micro itx mobo (with LGA 1151 😐 )

Ok, for now I have this design, now I'll make 2 more

[rotund sable]

what about a mini-itx X399 system

[dreamy locust]

Mlmlm

[dreamy locust]

What are the best fans I can get, 80mm? I elaborated like 5 different designs for the case and they all end up being ~90mm tall, at this point the best option is to get some 80mm fans on the sides

I know arctic 80mm are good (just 8€)

[knotty sparrow]

There's always Delta

[strange flume]

https://tenor.com/view/airbus-plane-airplane-aviation-take-off-gif-14487641

[spare locust]

Has the Noctua 12uha been upgraded throughout its history

[knotty sparrow]

The NH-U12A? It's in the fifth generation of the U12 line if that's what you mean. They've always kept up with the latest socket brackets too.

It's largely the same as when it launched in 2019 though

[ornate kite]

So my father thinks that he can replace the front fans on the corsair 4000x with the fans of the Corsair H150i liquid cooler
Is that possible?

[strange flume]

yes ofc

[noble quarry]

as long as they are 120mm or 140mm any fan can fit on the 4000x front

[modest carbon]

How big a drop would I have switching out 2 up to 2000rpm fans on my radiator for ones that are a ed at 1500rpm? Though would be using 4 of those in a push pull.

[shrewd juniper]

Push pull is not worth it, but why would you do that? Also it depends on the fans because it's going through a radiator static pressure matters

[marsh badge]

^

[left pulsar]

Not a big drop in temp, moderate drop in noise. Although I've used 1100rpm case fans a long time.

[bleak crescent]

is the arcitc freezer 34 esports duo recommendable? would be using it for the i5 12400f

[strange flume]

It'll work well but you can use a cheaper tower cooler for it like an SE-214-XT

Even the stock cooler works in the cpu box (loud though)

[dreamy locust]

Maybe the arctic freezer looks better if you're making a nice build

[bleak crescent]

so it is worthless to get the arctic freezer when I am aiming at lower temps (better thermals)?

[strange flume]

I mean it's not a bad cooler, quite a good one, it's just a single tower is a bit of overkill on it already

AK400 is the same thing, that's a gem of a cooler but not really necessary for the extra on a 12400

Better to throw that $10-$20 into something else like upgrading a 512gb MP33 to 1TB, for example

[bleak crescent]

I see I see, what about the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 or the dark rock pro 4

I would then keep the stock cooler and later upgrade it

[strange flume]

2 other very good coolers, extreme overkill on a 12400F and not suitable

Yeah you could do that, run the stock cooler then change to a higher power part later with a better cooler, what mobo were you planning on again?

[bleak crescent]

the msi pro b660m-a

[strange flume]

👍 one of the best ones to pick, likely will pose no problem

[bleak crescent]

so the stock cooler won't cause any problems or high temperatures?

[strange flume]

Not supposed to no, cpu's self-manage temps anyway so you know what to get if it's for some reason not working out*

[bleak crescent]

aight then imma do it this way, for now stock cooler and later imma grab a better one

[strange flume]

Sounds good 👍

[shrewd juniper]

Would grab a gammaxx 400/gt instead usually

[left pulsar]

I vote to go ahead and grab that gammaxx 400 or similar right now & enjoy not simply the lower temps but also moderately less noise is the bigger thing. Plus "bolt thru" setup works way better than the pushpins. I paid $37 for my 1st heatsink, lol. 2nd 1 was only $20 though. Plenty for anything under around 80w (peak)

[lusty horizon]

Hey guys I'm in the middle of a build here and I've run into some possible misinformation. I'm using a Lian Li Lancool II case and I was going to put a 240mm rad on the top in exhaust mode, one exhaust fan in the back and three intake fans in the front. I've seen builds with this config, but I was told by a friend that I should a 360mm positioned in the front for intake. I've bought the parts already. Is my buddy correct or can I use a 240mm rad on top?

[knotty sparrow]

What processor are you using?

[lusty horizon]

3600X

[knotty sparrow]

240mm on the top is more than enough

Even a cheap $25 air cooler would be plenty on that, there's really no need for 360mm

[lusty horizon]

OK, thanks for that info.

I think the aio looks cleaner, even if it's not necessary, but if it's too expensive then I'll use the air cooler. What are good budget aio options?

[sacred wren]

if you want the aio look, look at the clc 280

its $60 rn

[knotty sparrow]

I thought that went back up to $80

[sacred wren]

its never good to get a cheaply made aio, which are mostly what you find around that price point

but clc is on a good sale rn

[sacred wren]

just pcp being dumb i think

oh maybe not

yeah i guess the sale ended

[dreamy locust]

Why the Noctua NH-L9i (intel) is smaller than the Noctua NH-L9a (AMD)? Discrimination 😐

[frozen cape]

Would COOLER MASTER MLW-D24M-A18PC-RW Water Cooler be good for Ryzen 9 5950x?

[strange flume]

You could probably manage to run it on one but I certainly wouldn't call it good at all

For the same price you can get an EVGA CLC 280 and I would definitely call that more capable of a 5950X

Or $10 more for a 360 version

[frozen cape]

would CORSAIR CW-9060050-WW Water Cooler be better

[shrewd juniper]

No, would not advise buying a cooler master aio, I would recommend the arctic liquid freezer ii 360mm

Also 5950x isn't really a good choice anymore unless you are going to be using VM's or a lot of code compilation

[dreamy locust]

Can i spray paint a fan (blades and structure)? Ofc by covering every important part like the motor

[strange flume]

It's mainly the size. 240mm is not really ideal for a 5950X. You want bigger than that

[frozen cape]

alright

[shrewd juniper]

Also corsair coolers are mediocre

[dreamy locust]

?

[shrewd juniper]

Sure?

[tight reef]

1600 RPM case fans, is it enough?

[dreamy locust]

120mm?

How many are you using

[shrewd juniper]

Rpm doesn't really indicate if its a good fan or not tbh

[dreamy locust]

^ you also need to know CFM

Also if it mor a airflow fan or a static pressure fan

[bleak crescent]

struggling to install intel stock cooler rn

need some help lmao

[dreamy locust]

What's the problem?

Does it not get in?

[bleak crescent]

Nah

It ain't getting in

When I push it in nothing happens

This is the other side built in

Bro I hate the system of this cooler

[dreamy locust]

I've never used intel stock but I guess its lifted up on both sides

Is it LGA 1700 or other?

[bleak crescent]

Ye

[dreamy locust]

Idk
They pushing more on both sides at the same time
Avoid breaking MB...

[bleak crescent]

kinda risky

[dreamy locust]

Could you show with a video why it doesn't get in?

[bleak crescent]

been trying for 30mins

I would ask how to install after removing it

cause I have done that several times now

[shrewd juniper]

https://youtu.be/LGpk_CpcHA0?t=188

try that

[bleak crescent]

So I gotta turn them clockwise before installing?

He said to the "right"

Did it!!!

[slow condor]

whats a good way to power some pc fans or pumps that are separate from pc power supply?

[knotty sparrow]

What voltage are the fans?

[slow condor]

12v

[knotty sparrow]

PC fans?

Right that's what you said, I'm blind

Get a fan hub and power it separately

A dumb hub that doesn't need a motherboard signal

[slow condor]

so something like this https://www.dazmode.com/shop/watercooling/maintenance/water-cooling-essentials/phobya-external-power-supply-110v-to-4pin-molex-12v-5vdc-34w/
the 4pin molex would connect to hub?

[marsh badge]

yep

but this seems like a psu tester idk

so i wouldn't really do it

[knotty sparrow]

That's expensive sheesh

I'd just grab the cheapest OEM PSU I can find that has sata

I always keep mine from old PCs so I've got like 4 lol

[marsh badge]

^

they're everywhere on ebay too

[undone geyser]

thoughts on vetro fans?

[knotty sparrow]

Vetroo? They made a decent low budget cooler, the V5, but I don't think their fans alone are good.

[marsh badge]

their fans are probably meh

[undone geyser]

just their 120mm fans im buying

[shrewd juniper]

Just get some arctic p12s or something

If you are looking for cheap rgb : p12 (a)rgb, id cooling have some fans idk model, phanteks have some idk model

[magic sparrow]

Afaik cheapest okay option is from EzDIY or UpHere

[half flame]

I picked up a 10900k in a maximus XIII Extreme Glacial today. I haven't done water-cooling before besides an AIO and I'm wondering of someone could point me in the right direction.

Are there any good resources or a parts buying guide as I still would need to get tubes and fittings

[noble quarry]

the money you will spend on a custom loop on that particular cpu could be better employed on a better pc you know

[half flame]

i got the mobo and cpu for free from a coworker

I dont want to put that to waste

[strange flume]

You owe that guy a lunch or two lol

[half flame]

lmao damn right i do

he has 2 3090s and a threadripper in his main pc which is literally built into his desktop

[low pumice]

desk pcs are fun

[gilded apex]

do y'all know if 140mm fans will fit onto a tower cpu cooler that came with a 120mm fan

[marsh badge]

no

unless you use zip ties

and do it the jank way

[summer current]

Alright, friends, cooling newbie here. I've had a GTX 1060 in this case since 2019 and just upgraded to RTX 3080. My PC went from silent and cool to loud fans and 70-78°C on the GPU when playing a game like Fortnite tonight. It does seem like the 3080 is cramped in this case. There's one fan in front and one in back it seems. What should I do?

[gilded apex]

Do you think this is worth it

The nxzt fans are on sale for 6 dollars a piece

[marsh badge]

nah

[gilded apex]

So I picked up a couple

Oh fake

Damn*

I could move my front fans to the cpu cooler then perhaps?

Or should I just cancel the order

[marsh badge]

add some more fans on the front and top

it'll help

[gilded apex]

Bc 6 dollars kinda seems like a steal to me

[marsh badge]

i wouldn't say it's worth it tbh

[summer current]

What about a bigger case? It's cramped as it is in there I feel.

[marsh badge]

It's fine

Just not enough fans

[gilded apex]

But wouldn’t the bigger fans decrease noise?

Plus adding extra fans helps a bit regardless no?

[marsh badge]

not necessarily

[gilded apex]

I have a p400 for reference

Have 3 front fans and a cpu fan

Nothing on top or rear

So I am thinking maybe I can put the 2 140mm at the front

Move the three at the front to the top and rear

Is that worth it?

[noble quarry]

70-78 is normal working temperature on the 30 series

start worrying at 95+

those cards idle at 45-55 and work at 70-80 on a workload scenario like gaming, you can ofc lower those temps with better airflow or some water cooling solution, but as long as the card is below 95, everything is fine

[undone geyser]

only bought it for aesthetic lol

increased fps not bad

[shrewd juniper]

Fans increased fps? You must have beem throttling your poor pc

[noble quarry]

only on rgb fans. its a scientific fact that rgb increases your fps 😛

[shrewd juniper]

Oh true

[bold birch]

Idk if 70-80 is norm on Fortnite

Most 30series are in the 60s

Might be ambient temp

[noble quarry]

60c on workload? no way

unless...

[bold birch]

Oh workload

Still 70-80 on Fortnite

Might be the fan curves

[noble quarry]

i mean, its like 3 roentgen... not great, not terrible

[shrewd juniper]

Highly depends on model and what gpu

[noble quarry]

60 on workload is way too low for air

[bold birch]

In the 60s

[noble quarry]

unless you are blowing your ac on your card

[shrewd juniper]

Depends on your ambient and what workload

And fan curve

[noble quarry]

well, yeah, ambient plays a role there

[shrewd juniper]

My fan curve maxes out at 70c

[bold birch]

And maybe airflow

[noble quarry]

cant argue against that

but 70-80 inst that bad, could be improved yeah, but is a n ok temp regardless

[bold birch]

Doesn’t look he’s running 3 fans in the front in the pick

[bold birch]

That’s usually when cards downclock a couple mhz

Iirc

[shrewd juniper]

80 is too high for my comfort, 30 series cards stop boosting at 83c

[bold birch]

Also assuming he didn’t do a repad

Gddr6x might be a lil toasty

[shrewd juniper]

Once again depends on model

[noble quarry]

and the saggin could worsen those mem modules

:S

[bold birch]

Aren’t most of the models pads crap

[shrewd juniper]

Afaik you have a 3060 ti right? No need to worry that's only g6

[noble quarry]

its a msi, could be an x trio

[shrewd juniper]

Some, most are decent if your not mining, some are still good enough for mining

[shrewd juniper]

Could also be a ventus

[noble quarry]

yeah could be

[bold birch]

I cant tell if that’s trio

But I think it’s a ventus

[noble quarry]

at least not a 2x ventus 😛

[bold birch]

I mean most of them are in the 90s while gaming or high 80s

Within spec but still high

[shrewd juniper]

Get some arctic p12's and fill the front with them, go into msi afterburner and make a more aggressive fan curve

[bold birch]

And an undervolt, no point overclocking for 2% gains

[shrewd juniper]

Perfectly fine ,g6x is rated to 105-110c

Well an undervolt would help yes, bit more complicated and i have a feeling those 2 stock fans aren't doing enough airflow anyway

[shrewd juniper]

Overclocking gpu is for way more than 2%

[bold birch]

In benchmarks

Most of the time they don’t really translate to gaming

[shrewd juniper]

Not at all

Here is my 3070 stock vs 3070 oc - look at the gpu score

[bold birch]

I was talking about gaming, it’s more noticeable in benchmarks

[shrewd juniper]

9% increase on a oc'd card out of the factory

This card also was locked to 270w max

[bold birch]

Cool

[noble quarry]

thats... quite impressive pato sensei

[shrewd juniper]

Tank, too bad gigabyte did a gigglebyte and the capacitor rolled out of the card and no rmas - only returns in Ireland

Luckily i had bought a 3060 ti FE i was going to sell to rawr and he wasn't getting for few month

[bold birch]

The capacitor just came out

How’d it roll out tho

[shrewd juniper]

Yep

Came loose and roller outta my card when i was putting in the 3060 ti to mine with both while waiting for rawr to buy it

[bold birch]

Noting some soldering and duct tape can’t fix

[shrewd juniper]

Hell nah it came with a 4 year warranty i could have gotten a replacement from the retailer but prices had gone up from then since and wasn't sure if currys was going to be currys and be like dw you just pay the difference like hell nah

Plus mine was fhr so i was like I'll just keep 3060 ti and get different gpu for rawr/me

Ended up getting him a 6750xt

[bold birch]

I thought rawr was some other dude

[shrewd juniper]

He is, @timid carbon now

[bold birch]

I was lil confused there

[timid carbon]

WHOMST HATH SUMMONED THE HUNGRY ONE

[noble quarry]

everyone, bail out!

[timid carbon]

lemme have lunch in peace

[shrewd juniper]

Just talking about how gigglebyte gigglebyted me

[timid carbon]

lol

[shrewd juniper]

Sorry the proper past tense is probably gigglebit

[timid carbon]

Gigabyte has been great to me

[bold birch]

Gigglebit ticked his capacitor and it laughed too hard

[shrewd juniper]

Nah they used pritt stick instead of solder

[shrewd juniper]

Their boards and stuff are decent but safe to say i probably won't be buying a gigglebyte gpu for a while

[timid carbon]

fair enough

[bold birch]

It’s basically home protection within a 1m blast radius

[timid carbon]

ive had no issues with my gigabyte gpu tho

[shrewd juniper]

Nah just stopped working

[shrewd juniper]

I wouldn't mind going gigabyte again if their rma service included more than just refund because that's not only a pain my fhr gpu it's a waste cuz that probably went right in the bin

When all it needed was a bit of solder and maybe a new cap

[noble quarry]

haha looking the last ltt video xD the noctua pc

[shrewd juniper]

Looked pretty nice aesthetically tbh

Except for the ram cooler and ssd cooler

[fallen jackal]

Guys is 72c good for a Rx 6650xt? Is it too hot ( fan speed at 70% )

[languid gale]

FELLOW GIGGLEBYTE SURVIVOR

We love this

Waiting almost two years for an RMA approval

[uneven solstice]

Jeeze. Calling them gets nowhere?

[left pulsar]

Yikes, probably still get better service at asus w/ my Pascal huh.

[shrewd juniper]

That's fine

[shrewd juniper]

At least you got an rma :/

Oof 2 years

[languid gale]

I’ve RMAed this card 7 times, still hasn’t been fixed

[shrewd juniper]

💀

[bold birch]

-5c 🥶

[timid carbon]

cap

[bold birch]

No cap

[strange flume]

At this point you may as well lose the case

[timid carbon]

there is nothing sub ambient about that setup

[bold birch]

Was at 55c mining now it’s at 50c

Btw I don’t mine just curious on the temps

[timid carbon]

then say that

[bold birch]

Since it’s the only thing that’s steady

[timid carbon]

-5c 🥶 implies something very different

the pc is not at -5c

[bold birch]

I’ll test it in heaven in a mint

[bold birch]

Oh

I meant minus 5c from 55c

My bad

Dropped 5-6c

[sacred wren]

Did you repad and paste it?

76c on mem is pretty cool for a 3090

[bold birch]

Yea

[sacred wren]

Ah makes sense

Cool

[bold birch]

I’m currently overclocking it bc it seemed stable +1500 while gaming

Idk the max

[sacred wren]

I put a fan blowing at my pc while I bench lol

[dreamy locust]

The fan on top of the 3090 Fe

[bold birch]

And I’m gonna test it later

[sacred wren]

If you're testing ocing, download 3dmark demo on steam

[bold birch]

That’s not good enough

[sacred wren]

Put core up by 15 after each successful bench, could start at like 150

[bold birch]

Testing vram

But I forgot the bench name

[sacred wren]

It tests vram too

[bold birch]

Not effective as this other bench

[sacred wren]

Timespy is the best benchmark that's free

[bold birch]

Well that’s mainly for your basic gpu oc

I’m trying to test vram

[sacred wren]

Not really

My guy

It tests vram

My 3050 ti crashes on it with anything over +600 on vram

[bold birch]

Well it could test it

[marsh badge]

3dmark indeed tests vram

I get artifacts when I oc too much

[bold birch]

But it won’t be as accurate

[sacred wren]

Ok

👍

[marsh badge]

It emulates actual games lol

But ok

[bold birch]

Well the thing is with gddr6x is that +1600 might be the same as +1000

Higher clocks same performance

[sacred wren]

It gives a score at the end

Which you can compare between benches

[bold birch]

I forgot what it was bc someone recommended it to me a while back

But it test your vram at 8k

And shows noticeable differences in performance when clocked higher

[sacred wren]

If you say unigene engine

Or whatever that is

Whatever, do what you want

[bold birch]

That’s one I think thanks

I forgot the name of it

[sacred wren]

EXCUSE ME

That is literally one of the WORST benchmarks

It does not check for stability at all

[bold birch]

Why?

[sacred wren]

I can put my memory to +1700 on it without crashing

Which btw

Is not stable

At all

[bold birch]

I’ll try both then

[marsh badge]

Instead of wasting your time, 3dmark would actually work

[bold birch]

Alright

[summer current]

I bought 4 of these before I saw your message about Arctic p12. Should I instead get what you recommended or would these be fine?

[marsh badge]

oof

those look like very old fans

i would do p12 instead

[summer current]

Okay. I hit Cancel Order on newegg.. hopefully that works lol

5-pack on Amazon for $31 looks like a sweet deal?

[left pulsar]

Pretty much normal price, but yes a good value for good fans.

[sacred wren]

P12s are the best performing budget fans

[summer current]

Picked up 5 of them! 3 in front, 1 in back, 2 on top I'm thinking.

With the 6th fan being one from the case pre-installed.

[sacred wren]

For that setup, I'd do the three front as intakes and the other three as exhausts

Just because the way heat works

[lusty horizon]

Can someone please point me in the right direction (article, video, etc) to learn how to set up my AIO? Thanks in advance.

[noble quarry]

most of the time you can put your aio model on youtube and you will have a ton of installation guides for your specific model

like" 360r installation guide" or something like that

[marsh badge]

Or just read the manual

[shrewd juniper]

Those look terrible

[dreamy locust]

Do pc dust filter reduce airflow? If yes, how much? What could the temperature difference be with and without?
Considering I'll need to get some for my mini pc in a ~6.5L case will a normal dust filter affect much?
Should I go for something like this ↓?

I'll have to cut them anyway to match the mini pc hexagonal holes on the case

[uneven solstice]

The dustfilter on my 5000D has much smaller holes than that. Not sure how much dust that'll really catch.

[dreamy locust]

I'm more worried about airflow, I just need a filter to make sure nothing gets int the case

Would be nice if it blocks dust too ;)

[uneven solstice]

Like what? Dust/hair? Orr?

What could be floating around your house that you'd be worried about being sucked in? Lol

[dreamy locust]

I jus want the pc to stay clean because since it's a 6.5L case it'll take forever to take apart and clean

[uneven solstice]

Then you'll probably want something that can keep dust from getting in.. that mesh you posted above will allow all sorts of dust to get in.

While I know that anything in front of a fan is going to impede airflow.. I can't imagine a fine mesh (such as whats on the 4000D/5000D series) restricting it so much it affects your thermals in any meaningful way.

[dreamy locust]

I guess at this point I just go for a cheap one on Amazon..?

Normal dust filter

[shrewd juniper]

Yes, depends on the size of the holes in the dust filter

[dreamy locust]

Is 0.5mm holes good for airflow and catching dust?

[shrewd juniper]

No idea .5mm sounds a bit big tho

[uneven solstice]

.5 sounds about right tbh

In comparison to the 1.4mm he posted above.

[uneven solstice]

Thatll largely be better than the 1.4mm

[dreamy locust]

I'll just check other dust filters and see what dimension they're

I've found 0.2mm, too

That looks too small

[shrewd juniper]

https://www.corsair.com/it/en/Categories/Products/Accessories-|-Parts/iCUE-4000X-4000D-4000D-Airflow-Top-Magnetic-Dust-Filter%2C-Black/p/CC-8900446

Grab one of those

[dreamy locust]

Yeah, many people said (on the reviews) that they reduce airflow

[uneven solstice]

Yeah because smaller holes.

[shrewd juniper]

.2mm sounds too small, maybe.5 is okay

[uneven solstice]

I feel like it's to rubbery thick though where he could have smaller/thinner mesh wire?

[dreamy locust]

What are the dimensions of the dust filter?

Let me see if I can found them on Corsair EU

[shrewd juniper]

That's corsair itally

Uh

That

[uneven solstice]

Omg pato

[shrewd juniper]

Dimensions

[uneven solstice]

What is wrong with your tower?

[shrewd juniper]

Nothing

[dreamy locust]

Lol, it was in English I thought it was US

Lol

[uneven solstice]

That looks dirty

[shrewd juniper]

It says € lol

[uneven solstice]

Is your mesh ok?

[shrewd juniper]

It's a bit dusty yeah i need to hoover it and my room

[uneven solstice]

[dreamy locust]

?

[shrewd juniper]

It's not that bad it's the angle

[dreamy locust]

Are they like 140*280?

[uneven solstice]

I'm giving you crap my dear:P

[left pulsar]

Yea when we start to be able to see the dust circles, time for a clean lol

[shrewd juniper]

It doesn't say but like slightly smaller than the 4000d, yeah it fits 2 140mms

So roughly that

[dreamy locust]

Ok

[dreamy locust]

Just need to know the area so I can cut them 💀

[shrewd juniper]

Head on

You can barely see

[shrewd juniper]

But that ruins the magnetic part :p

[dreamy locust]

Unfortunately on my case there are no metal parts where it can rest

:/

[shrewd juniper]

How?

[uneven solstice]

He build his own case?

[languid gale]

Hmm that sounds like a fun idea, maybe I should build my own case

[left pulsar]

Too late, can't be unseen. Can't see it from my house easily though.

[languid gale]

You can see it quite clearly

[dreamy locust]

@shrewd juniper how thick are the dust filters? Not counting the magnetic part

[languid gale]

Well unless you’re blind

[dreamy locust]

No need for accurate measurement

1mm? 1.5 2.0mm?

[languid gale]

I finally had a great idea for once, mini ITX case that can fit a 360rad

[dreamy locust]

That's not going to be mini

Lol

Enormous

Radiator diagonally= save space

[shrewd juniper]

Is it being made out of plastic or something

[shrewd juniper]

Idk pretty thin

[shrewd juniper]

But why bother when 280 is so close and actually smoller

[strange flume]

Omg when I have like a 10th of this I clean mine

[dreamy locust]

Black Plexiglas probably
The best option I get that is cheap and can be used with laser cutting

[strange flume]

Isn't the jonsbo(?) ipro or something supposed to fit a 360?

i100 pro is the name, lol

Inb4 jonsbo iMac

[uneven solstice]

@shrewd juniper you gonna clean your dust filter today?

Tech/mod out here giving advice when his dust filter looks like its enough to choke a full size airflow case.

[left pulsar]

This it? Bit dumb to me. Pretty big & people act like the height by itself is an issue even when care is up in the open. -- That price is ridic also. $300 I be getting a full tower.

[shrewd juniper]

Yes plus it's only just getting dusty

[uneven solstice]

How does it "only just get dusty"? Isn't dust something that builds up? :P

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah but I'm saying it's only gotten dusty to a point that you can see it

[shrewd juniper]

That's practically an matx minus like 5cm

[strange flume]

Yeah that's it lmao

[uneven solstice]

I'm bored so I'm poking you.

[shrewd juniper]

:PepeHands:

:PepeHands:

Ffs

[uneven solstice]

Faillll x2

[strange flume]

Git rekt

[shrewd juniper]

[dreamy locust]

That's one reason why I build my own itx/matx case, they're expensive for no reason

I can literally build mine for... 40€? And some patience
Of course if someone is not able to do autocad/solidworks can buy the 300$ one

(and if you don't have a laser cutter)

Bruh
Imagine not having one smh

Chillin
Are you typing a poem?

[languid gale]

Because I already got a 360mm in my main build, I’m trying to downsize while spending the least amount of money possible

[left pulsar]

Haha, might've picked up me typing in another channel.

[shrewd juniper]

Have you considered swapping on r/hardwareswap?

[languid gale]

Too lazy to

And I kinda think building a miniITX compatible with a 360 rad could be unique and a fun challenge

Thicc XBOX style case

[shrewd juniper]

Okay hear me out

O11 air mini is small and technically fits a 360

[strange flume]

Lol

O11 mini non-air straight up does fit it

[languid gale]

Wdym by technically?

[strange flume]

Iirc you use adapters to shift the rad like 2 cm sideways it can fit a 360 technically

[languid gale]

I might actually do that, since apparently it can fit a full ATX motherboard and PSU

[strange flume]

You also lose like 10% or 20% of the air movement through the rad doing it

Very much a copium thing for o11 air mini lol

[languid gale]

How does it compare to a Lancool II Mesh size wise? My signal is iffy so it’s a bit of a pain to check

[strange flume]

Size wise o11 air mini has like basically an atx footprint

It's quite long iirc like 400mm

And thicc

Yea it's wider than a Lancool II Mesh but shorter

I just double-checked

[languid gale]

And less depth to it I think right?

Looks shorter at least on pictures

[strange flume]

It's shorter, 400 vs. 478
But wider, 288 vs 229

[languid gale]

I wonder what would make more sense for a college dorm

[shrewd juniper]

Like it officially only supports 240/280mm aios but it does support 3x120 fans so you can physically do a 360mm aio in it just not officially

Very tight squeeze tho

[languid gale]

You think it’d be worth it to downsize to that from a Lancool II Mesh?

[shrewd juniper]

I wouldn't

[strange flume]

Not imo

Lancool ii mesh is solid

[languid gale]

I’m trying to save space in a college dorm

[shrewd juniper]

Imo wider is worse in a confined space like a dorm room

[languid gale]

I might also just leave it home and use my laptop for work and stuff

[shrewd juniper]

When you save height you're not actually saving anything

What kinda stuff? Also what laptop you got?

[languid gale]

It’s an Asus scar 17

5900hx/ 135w 3080

[strange flume]

Just use that

[languid gale]

32Gb of ram so it’s not a bad laptop at all

[strange flume]

Lol

Laptops are so much easier for living in at college

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah just use that and bring a monitor with you imo

Laptop screens are way too small

[languid gale]

Only thing is I like the extra power for CAD

I might just buy a new monitor yeah

[strange flume]

Use the university computers for cad

[shrewd juniper]

What monitors you got at home?

[languid gale]

Oh hell naw

[strange flume]

Eh

[languid gale]

2 very weird monitors

[shrewd juniper]

Would you not bring one of these?

[shrewd juniper]

Go on?

[strange flume]

Do you have a science facility at college?

[shrewd juniper]

Usually college pcs suck

[strange flume]

Computer lab?

[languid gale]

I got one 28” 4K Tn panel 10-bit monitor

[strange flume]

Not at my uni they were using like, not a6000's but the one before it

[languid gale]

My laptop outperforms most of the computers you’d find in a computer lab

[strange flume]

For computer labs

[shrewd juniper]

Our computer labs are like optiplex 3070s lol

Not the rtx 3070

[strange flume]

Kekw

[languid gale]

Then I got some 31” 1440p monitor that I don’t even remember the rest of the specs on

[shrewd juniper]

Granted we don't have any cad heavy courses

[strange flume]

3rd suggestion, eGPU if you feel desparate

[shrewd juniper]

God no

[strange flume]

Lol

[languid gale]

I’m going to college for nuclear engineering so cad will be pretty involved

[shrewd juniper]

Those things are so worthless just build an itx pc at that stage

[strange flume]

You make it too easy sometimes pato lol

[shrewd juniper]

Lol

[languid gale]

The laptop would be fine since it’s a 16gb 3080 but not as nice as a desktop 3080 lol

[strange flume]

I'm sorry

[shrewd juniper]

Hmm alec how much money are you looking to spend?

16gb will be nicer for cad actually

[languid gale]

I’ll be honest, I don’t really got much of a budget rn

Maybe 8-900 most?

[shrewd juniper]

Bro that's plenty

[languid gale]

But I don’t really care about how much I spend on it

I had a plan to convert my desktop into a mini ITX but I forgot about it

I think I could maybe find it somewhere if I looked hard enough

Give me a sec

[strange flume]

Napkin plan?

Napkin plan???

[shrewd juniper]

Okay so hear me out, instead of building new pc or trying to downgrade currently why not just build itx pc and take current gpu out of atx and swap between them for 800$

Or

Just leave the 360mm and get like a 280

Clc 280 is like 80$

[strange flume]

I would find a compatible itx or carry matx and use a smaller mobo

If we go that route

Smallest spend

[languid gale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fZgfFg

Here it is

Anything with 0 as price I already have

[shrewd juniper]

Okay hmm

You already have 280mm arctic? Or just not in stock atm.?

[languid gale]

Not in stock

[shrewd juniper]

Also why not use your current ram?

[strange flume]

That would work

[languid gale]

I have a 4x8 kit of 32Gb

[strange flume]

That's justifiable

[shrewd juniper]

Sadge

Not for itx 2 dim slots

[strange flume]

Hmm

If you're gonna spend on the ram anyway, what about matx?

[languid gale]

Yeah kinda regret when i was originally buying the ram but oh well

[strange flume]

Cerberus sliger has a handle

So you can cut out some 80-ish dollars

Then you get 4 ram slots along with the portability

[languid gale]

Oh I don’t really need portability just a smaller footprint

[strange flume]

Or alta g1

Fits 360 rad

and matx

[languid gale]

What mobo would you recommend?

[strange flume]

I don't remember ideal b550m's

[languid gale]

Out of curiosity is there a mATX case that fits a ATX motherboard?

im kinda attached to my crosshair

[strange flume]

Ooo crosshair nice

O11 air mini comes to mind

[languid gale]

I’ve had this Crosshair VIII hero since 3000 series launch and I expect to have it until my 5900x isn’t viable anymore

[strange flume]

Crosshair VIII is still one of the goat boards

[languid gale]

Still an S tier mobo

Hmm I think I’ll stick with my laptop for the first semester or so and see how things go

[strange flume]

Honestly I'd rank it higher than the dark hero

[languid gale]

Why?

[strange flume]

I see better ram oc results from people with the regular one

Then again most people who know how to use a dark hero prolly moved on pretty early, they're both really good anyway

[languid gale]

I kinda wish I had a dark hero because of dynamic OC

[strange flume]

Dynamic OC pretty useless

[languid gale]

Really?

[shrewd juniper]

@languid gale would probably do this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/96vGnt

[languid gale]

Cl18?

[strange flume]

Maybe for certain benching it has fringe cases but a good pbo tune will smack any form of static oc even with the Dynamic OC switching

[shrewd juniper]

40$ cheaper

Than c16

[strange flume]

Wouldn't worry about the ram speed for cad

[shrewd juniper]

Could go 3200 and save another 15$ or so

Might recommend that actually

Ehh the higher fclk might be worth it

[strange flume]

[shrewd juniper]

Mm actually I'd probably do this that way it's only 10$ more than 3200, although tiny bit worse timings
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9tmzFg @languid gale

[languid gale]

Sorry about that, just got home

But I’m going to stick with 3600cl16 or faster because the CAD programs I use all prefer faster ram speeds

[shrewd juniper]

Okay i just don't think it's worth 45$

[lusty horizon]

Hey guys, I'm back with more questions on my fresh PC build: How do I make it to where the case/aio fans do NOT start to run at full speed when the CPU usage spikes? I've heard that this is a common problem with amd processors.

[dreamy locust]

You mean you don't want them to go full speed on small CPU spikes?

[lusty horizon]

that is correct

[dreamy locust]

You go into bios and change the fan curves

Or you can use other software in windows to help you change the fan curve

[lusty horizon]

What kind of software would I use? Like L-connect and all the third party stuff?

[dreamy locust]

"Fan Control" very simple and intuitive

[lusty horizon]

Alright thanks I'll check it out

[dreamy locust]

It's easier to adjust your fan curve without having to go into bios every time
That way you can also stress test and set the best fan curve you want

Ask if you need help

Btw you may want to set a small delay for your fans, that way if it is a 2 seconds 80C spike it won't ramp up like crazy

[lusty horizon]

Thats exactly what I'm looking for! awesome

Who makes this software

found it thanks!

Also, I was told that I could run case fans and aio fans on the same controller and they would all ramp up the same, and the speed would be the same on all fans. Is this the traditional way of controlling pc fans?

[dreamy locust]

https://youtu.be/LyIaxuppBAI

[dreamy locust]

I'd not recommended it, CPU fan speed/aio should be different from case fans

You should set your own speeds based on how many fans you have/ how loud they are or whatever you want...

[lusty horizon]

That makes more sense, it seems that everyone has a different approach but I couldn't really see all fans doing the same thing

[dreamy locust]

Btw using a 4pin fan to multiple fans may not be safe if you have high consumption fans.
Usually today you may find 0.1A fans but take in mind that one 4pin header usually supports a max of 2.5A

[lusty horizon]

Good to know. I'm using Lian Li uni fans with the provided controller. 3 in front, 2 up top (with kraken x53) 1 in back and 2 on bottom. Controller is 4 channels

[dreamy locust]

Isn't the controller for RGB?

[lusty horizon]

Its for both rgb and speed control

sl120 uni fan

[dreamy locust]

Oh
Where is the controller connected?
I thought you had individual fans plugged in your MB headers

[lusty horizon]

usb 2.0 for controls, fan header to pass through to mobo control and its sata powered

[sacred wren]

That isn't a problem, the cpu is heating up so the fans speed up

That's what they're supposed to do

[dreamy locust]

But is it like one 4pin header directly to the MB?

[dreamy locust]

Yeah but they're trying to remove those random ramp up from small temp spikes

[lusty horizon]

@dreamy locust Yes for control only not power for fans

[sacred wren]

unless im misunderstanding

that spike of usage is also a temp spike

unless you want it to heat up more, you dont want the fans to not ramp up

[dreamy locust]

They've got small temperatures spike and all fans ramp up crazy, there should be a delay, that way fans won't ramp up randomly

Like
80C for 1 second (no fan delay) → ram up like crazy
80C for 1 second (with fan delay) → fan stay chill

[lusty horizon]

@dreamy locust Is this the right way to go about fan control?

[dreamy locust]

Is it only one 4 pin to the motherboard for all the fans in your case?

[lusty horizon]

Yes

[dreamy locust]

If yes then you can't control them separately I guess
Unless there is a lianli software

Let me check

[lusty horizon]

But you can control fan speeds in Lian li software

[dreamy locust]

Then I guess they're using the usb to be controlled

[lusty horizon]

Also, another problem is I don't know if you can control the fans separately in L-connect

[magic sparrow]

FanControl isnt limited to mobo fan control

[dreamy locust]

Yeah but I thought the fans were connected separately on each MB header

[lusty horizon]

@magic sparrow So Fan Control is still the way to go?

[dreamy locust]

Then you'll have to use the lianli software

And check for the delay option

[magic sparrow]

Maybe, it doesnt detect everything. But it can detect other controllers, dont know if it works with whatever you're using tho

[dreamy locust]

Or you could connect the 4pin fans directly on the motherboard

I guess the headers are not enough so you could connect just some of them like
Front and CPU to the motherboard
And back/bottom fans to the lianli controller

[magic sparrow]

If the controller isnt supported, look through LHM (the base of FC) forks/PRs to see if there are builds that do support your controller. That or look for FC plugins that support your controller too.

Github for LHM:
https://github.com/LibreHardwareMonitor/LibreHardwareMonitor

[lusty horizon]

Alright thanks for all the input. I may use the mobo fan headers for Fan Control and use the lian li software for the rgb on the uni fans.

so just run the fans to the mobo

[dreamy locust]

What motherboard are you using?

[magic sparrow]

Id recommend using OpenRGB for RGB control

Plugins also exist for OpenRGB which Id recommend some of them

[lusty horizon]

I'm using gigagyte b550 auros pro v2

[dreamy locust]

Sometimes not using the "right" software for RGB can cause the led to light up like 50% like it happened to me with both signal RGB and open RGB

So you have 5 sys fan headers on your MB

Where is your aio?

[lusty horizon]

@dreamy locust if i use one for pump speed control then 5

5 are available

[dreamy locust]

Good, you have 3front, 2 bottom, 1 back and 2 top

8fans total

Where is your aio?

[lusty horizon]

top 240mm

[dreamy locust]

Ok

[lusty horizon]

lian li lancool II

[dreamy locust]

Are your fans like the daisy chained ones? Like 1 4pin fan that powers all the other connected fans?

[lusty horizon]

Yes thats why I bought those

[dreamy locust]

Or each fan has a separate connector?

Ok

[dreamy locust]

What's the total of 4pin cables running from your fan?

I guess 4?
1 for the fron
1 for the back
1 top
1 bottom?

Wait
Your aio is on the pump header right?

Or is it on the lianli controller?

[lusty horizon]

@dreamy locust Yes 4 total connectors. there is no dedicated pump header there is a fan/pump header that i'm using for the aio

aio is kraken x53

[dreamy locust]

But is the pump header on the controller or r u using the one on the mobo?

[lusty horizon]

mobo

[dreamy locust]

Ok

Then simply connect the 4fan cables to the ones available on the motherboard

[lusty horizon]

I'll give that a shot. This is my first build this complex, sorry for the simple questions but i think i have another one: I read that the aio should be set to run at a set speed ALL the time, and everyone says something different. It should be 100% all the time right?

I think this is also based on different opinions

[sacred wren]

no

[lusty horizon]

Wait can't i use this controller for all the case fans then run the aio fan cable to a different header?

[dreamy locust]

100% if you wan 20C and loud pc

[sacred wren]

running fans at 100 all the time result in the fans deteriorating

[lusty horizon]

@sacred wren The aio pump is what i'm talking about

[shrewd juniper]

Aio pump should be 100% all the time ye

[dreamy locust]

Not the fans? Oh

Sorry lol

[lusty horizon]

I guess once I get it built i'll have to mess with it quite a bit

@dreamy locust I still don't understand why the case fans and aio fans run at dif speeds. do the aio fans react to cpu temp and the case fans react to another temp? Case temp?

[dreamy locust]

Could be but I guess its just because the CPU fan has a higher base fan curve.....?

[storm chasm]

I have a MSI motherboard and I used to have MSI center for fan controlling etc... what is a good software just to control fans besides MSI center.

also what is the best air cooler

for the cpu

[low pumice]

Not many good software in general for fan control, best option tends to just be set your fan curve in bios

[low pumice]

for which cpu?

[storm chasm]

alr alr

[storm chasm]

11th gen intel 1200 lga socket

have a 11400 at the moment

and i just ordered a z590 and a 11600k

[low pumice]

Well, I'd reccomend you go for 12th gen instead if at all possible, 11th gen prices aren't great and 12th gen improves a good bit over 11th gen

But, something like cnps20x would be plenty

[storm chasm]

well im not going for 12th gen because z690 motherboards have ddr5 and i dont want to hash out 300 bucks for a 32 gig kit of ddr5 ram

so yea

[low pumice]

Half of z690 boards are ddr4

Z590 boards cost about as much as ddr4 z690 boards anyways

[storm chasm]

im looking for upper range boards with good vrms and a decent rear io

and z690 has about the skimpiest pcie ever tbg

tbh

[storm chasm]

im not going for 12th gen

[sacred wren]

pcie tbg

skimpy?

what?

also you will notice a negligble difference on a z590 and 11600k compared to your 11400

[low pumice]

MSI Z690-a, decent usb rear io, 3.2 gen 2 internal, 4 m.2 slots, 2.5g lan, 14 stage vcore, for 155$
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813144489

[sacred wren]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GvmmP6/msi-pro-z690-a-ddr4-atx-lga1700-motherboard-pro-z690-a-ddr4

$155 z690 good enough for a 12900ks

[storm chasm]

that board is not to good the pro series boards aren't that good most board below 200 bucks for z690 are ass

[marsh badge]

where did gou get that it's not good?

it's obviously not the best board, but it can handle some high power cpus

[noble quarry]

well, was damn good at the fantastech sale D: now returned to its 200 price tag 😦

[shrewd juniper]

It's a great board lol

[storm chasm]

lmao nooo thats why it has high temps

[sacred wren]

It's normally $200, it was on sale first off

Second you can't judge quality off of how much it costs

B660 mag bazooka is enough for a 12900 and is $130

[shrewd juniper]

75c isn't high

Also it actually pulled the most watts

[sacred wren]

Meanwhile gigabyte z690 ax had issues with running ddr5 above 4400mhz iirc

[marsh badge]

75c is pretty low

the board can feed the i9 lots of power

[shrewd juniper]

The lowest ones weren't giving as much power

[marsh badge]

ye lmao

more power = better vrms

and those temps are cpu

[summer current]

So... just got my 5 new extra fans in to bump my fan count from 2 to 6-7. My mobo only has 4 fan sockets. Is daisy chaining the way to go power them all?

[uneven solstice]

yeah. Can put the front fans on one header/top exhaust on one header and rear exhaust on one header

or can put all the exhaust on one header

[summer current]

Sick, thanks!

I've got the Fractal Design Meshify C case that claims a third fan can be installed on the bottom of the front. How is this possible when the PSU shroud is in the way?

[rotund sable]

The PSU shroud is removeable right? That's probably what they meant

[summer current]

Possibly. I'll look to see if there's a way to remove it

[left pulsar]

@summer current this

[summer current]

Yeahh I just saw a video on removing it!

[rotund sable]

ooo handy

[summer current]

But THEN that raises the question of where my HDD cage goes...

It used to be in the top right where that upper fan is in the pic.

I know it can be placed underneath near the PSU but idk if it'll fit there now if a fan is installed down there too...

[left pulsar]

Read your case manual. Probably goes right behind the front fan. That's how tons of cases are.

[summer current]

Will do. Had this case since 2019. Gotta find a digital manual.

[left pulsar]

Might have to take out gpu for a min to install the hdd cage.

[knotty sparrow]

You can shift it back, it has a rail to slide in

You can theoretically fit a 360mm rad in front with fans and still have the drive sled depending on the AIO and how long your PSU is.

I used to have the meshify c so I can be a good source if you have more questions, feel free to ping me

[summer current]

Yeah! So I decided to ditch the bottom front fan and put the psu shroud back. The Drive cage/sled is back in the bottom next to the psu. Where do I mount it on this?

Is it the long oval shaped holes?

And the orientation of the cage itself... how is it oriented down here? I can't figure that bit out. Right now it's got the little prongs and HDD sockets facing toward the PSU.

[knotty sparrow]

Yes this. With the cover on you can have the cage all the way forward for maximum PSU room.

The plugs for the drives would be facing towards the side panel

[summer current]

How would you plug them in if they're facing that way?

The back side panel?

[knotty sparrow]

I used 90 degree cables