old-cooling

[sacred wren]

as long as it doesnt go over 85 youre safe, even then it wont damage it until 90 +

but id turn it off if it gets over 85

or closer the game

[strange niche]

Ok. Thank you.

[sacred wren]

close*

[glacial spindle]

anyone done a custom cooling loop?

[ornate scaffold]

hey guys I just got 2 packs of rgb fans (6 in total) and connected them all to the included fan hub, then connected that to sata power. All of the fans spin however they do no light up (they are supposed to), furthermore the remote doesn't seem to do anything. I've tried both hubs and both remotes. Any ideas?

[knotty eagle]

What hub is it? There are normally two cables on the fan, one for power and one for RGB. Is it an RGB hub or just a power hub?

[ornate scaffold]

so the fans have a connector that only connects to the hub, and the hub goes straight to sata power

lemme find it hang on

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078LWV8PZ?pf_rd_r=60EDDH6H9DJK433P6R8Z&pf_rd_p=5ae2c7f8-e0c6-4f35-9071-dc3240e894a8&pd_rd_r=baa8d04f-3aa0-44e6-b6b2-62d753b2e16c&pd_rd_w=9R1Z6&pd_rd_wg=ITg7i&ref_=pd_gw_unk

this one

each fan has one cable and its the one that goes to the hub

if you look at the 4th image thats how i have it set up @knotty eagle

[knotty eagle]

Ohhh, the Uphere fans

I mean if they spin they're getting power

[ornate scaffold]

yea

[knotty eagle]

Sometimes there's a plastic tab on the battery for the remote

[ornate scaffold]

yea no i got that

tried both remotes and both hubs

[knotty eagle]

That's kinda odd?

[ornate scaffold]

ikr

like how could both not work? thats why im wondering if i did something wrong?

[knotty eagle]

Is the connector for the fans in upside down or something?

[ornate scaffold]

they only go in one way so nope

i also made sure they are connected 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 on the hub with no space in between

[knotty eagle]

Reading the Amazon reviews

It seems your issue isn't uncommon :/

[ornate scaffold]

i saw that as well but i mean both hubs dont work for me

so idk

maybe just bad luck?

[knotty eagle]

I mean

is there plastic over the end of the transmitter on the remote maybe?

Are the hubs hidden behind the metal case, can you get a direct line of site with the remote for them?

[ornate scaffold]

i actually stuck the hub near the mobo so i could point the remote at it so yea its in sight

i know the remotes themselves work because whenever a button is pressed an led lights up

also

inside the hub itself there is a lit green led so i dont think the hubs are dead eaither

[knotty eagle]

IDK to be honest, there's not a lot more you can do

Other than maybe try one fan at a time?

Maybe one fan is bad and causing the rest to not work?

[ornate scaffold]

good idea ill try that and report back

welp

that didnt do anything

[knotty eagle]

Welp, I'd consider them to be defective

Most likely hubs, send them a message on Amazon

[ornate scaffold]

man

unfortunate

[knotty eagle]

It is

[ornate scaffold]

thanks for the help anyway

[knotty eagle]

YW

[wraith rose]

Apparently Arctic put out some Liquid Freezer II's with rgb and a-rgb fans. Huh

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah they've been around for a few weeks now I think

[languid gale]

Im using the Freezer II 360 RGB and I’m enjoying it

[languid gale]

They came out on Amazon May 13th

[urban lily]

Random question I’m new to the pc building thing and Im looking into parts- do you need fans for a pc case or can you just use the CPU cooler?

[knotty eagle]

You need fans for a case. At least 2 to move some air

[urban lily]

One in front and back?

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah

[urban lily]

Ight thanks

[shrewd juniper]

Most cases come with that default tho

[topaz blaze]

I have 2 140mm fans in front for intake, 2 140mm fans on top as exhaust, and 1 120mm on the back for exhaust as well.

Is that alright? My temps seem fine but I've heard that positive pressure is better than negative pressure.

[knotty eagle]

Positive pressure keeps the dust out

[topaz blaze]

I can't really arrange the fans in any other way in my case. All I could do is switch one of the fans that are exhaust to intake but idk how well that would work

[knotty eagle]

Reduce the RPM of the top and rear fans then

Does the same thing

[shrewd juniper]

No point, hot air rises and no mesh on back

[terse pond]

Any 240mm Radiator recommendations that won't break the bank? The cpu is Amd Ryzen 5 5600x

[timid carbon]

get a Vetroo V5 tbh

rad kinda overkill

[terse pond]

really

Dang alright

[timid carbon]

unless you plan on overclocking tho

in that case u need something more

[terse pond]

oh no, just gaming and content creation, I don't plan on overclocking

[timid carbon]

I see it should be good then

[terse pond]

Any high end air coolers like about $50 or is that overkill and the Vetroo V5 is the good decision

[timid carbon]

https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-240-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835186247

you can get that aio if you want

its VERY nice

[terse pond]

oooo

[shrewd juniper]

Well yes and no 5600x can be a toasty boi

[grizzled kernel]

Will Cooler Master MF120 Halo fans be enough for an AIO rad fan? Or not enough static pressure/cfm?

[timid carbon]

the ones that come with the aio are good

[grizzled kernel]

I know, unfortunately they arent rgb and I had a couple extra of the Mf120s around.

Was hopeful

[wraith rose]

The non-RGB fans on it are better and according to the specs, the rgb fans that come with the rgb version sold on Amazon are slightly better than the MF120 Halos in CFM rating (about 1.6) and the rgb fans have a .25mm higher static pressure value. There isn't much of a difference if you bought the rgb version of the Liquid Freezer II than if you just put those MF120 Halos on and you'll save something about 15-20 dollars just replacing the included fans on the standard version

[sacred wren]

what is the cheapest non crap liquid cpu cooler someone would reccomend?

opinions on this? https://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Independently-Controlled-Addressable/dp/B07PCGYG1V/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=cpu+liquid+cooler&qid=1621485527&refinements=p_36%3A-6000&rnid=386442011&s=electronics&sr=1-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzQkpZR1NSVlhZWUVLJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODExODg5M0oxQzU4TjVPVkhRRyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjc4NTA0MlRQVERDNDNKUVVLRCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

[knotty sparrow]

Ek-aio, liquid freezer ii, or lian li Galahad

[sacred wren]

alr ty

[knotty sparrow]

Cooler master are cheapo ones. The 360 probably performs only slightly better than the liquid freezer ii 240.

[sacred wren]

ty

[autumn iris]

Anybody got any AIOs they’d recommend for $100?

Gotta be a 2 fan 120mm I don’t have room for 3 fan

Also LGA 1151 is my socket

[shrewd juniper]

Arctic liquid ii 240mm is a tiny bit more than 100$ but ek's non rgb aio is like 80 or 90, you really don't need an aio for a 9400f btw a id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 would do it just fine and they like 30$ save yourself some money imo

[autumn iris]

Yeah I’m upgrading to a 9900k I would upgrade to a 10850k but I save about $140 with not needing a new motherboard

[shrewd juniper]

Fair even a scythe fuma 2 for 60$ would do the job if you wanna save money

[autumn iris]

Alright thanks!

[shrewd juniper]

Nb

[solemn juniper]

CPU cooler tier list?

[magic wave]

that would be

pretty cool 😎

[solemn juniper]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/891730-cpu-cooler-performance-tier-list/

[shrewd juniper]

i dont know if i would trust they have an ml360 in same tier as arctic

also almost all the krakens

nah d15 in tier 2 and u12a in tier 3 wth are they smoking lol

[weary slate]

based on what the author said about it being compiled through benchmarks and reviews leads me to believe that a lot of these probably had different test setups with different cases or even to go as far as different cpus

[shrewd juniper]

i feel like it yeah

but thats a terrible way to write a list to compare things

[weary slate]

Yea typically you want to find direct comparisons from the same reviewer which is hard when there are a million different cpu coolers

[shrewd juniper]

also galahad 240 is down in tier 2 lol

[weary slate]

Yeaaa kinda wish gamer's nexus would cover a few more air coolers just because I know they are very methodical and consistent with their testing

[shrewd juniper]

its very flawed

[shrewd juniper]

yes same

the list is v flawed

not gn lol

[weary slate]

but in fairness when you're as thorough as they are and have content besides cooler reviews I can understand them not having reviews for every random air cooler especially when a lot of times people just want to hear the #1 best so they look at big aio's lol

[shrewd juniper]

yeah but saying that the d15 and u12a are worse than the kraken coolers is just dumb cooler common knowledge

[weary slate]

oh yea for sure

[gritty mantle]

can i put a Thermaltake UX100 on a i9 9900k

[knotty eagle]

No

[gritty mantle]

it needs 1500 rpm

this thing does 1800 rpm

[knotty eagle]

That cooler is designed for low power CPU's

Not the 9900k

[timid carbon]

rpm doesnt matter tbh

the tdp does

[gritty mantle]

what is tdp

[timid carbon]

google

[gritty mantle]

ok thx alot

[shrewd juniper]

It's the rated wattage of the chip

[shrewd juniper]

Tdp isn't even boost tho not super useful

[timid carbon]

Im not saying tdp of the chip has to match the cooler

[shrewd juniper]

Fair

[rose isle]

also, CPU manufacturers use different ways to report TDP... so...

[weary slate]

Tdp is meant to give a vaugue idea of what cooling you need. I don't think tdp is even directly a power usage measurement I think it comes out of a weird offset equation to help guide cooler selection

[gritty mantle]

ok and what is the tdp of a i9 9900k

[timid carbon]

im saying the tdp of the cooler being higer makes it a better cooler

[rose isle]

fair

[timid carbon]

more rpm=more cooling isnt correct

[shrewd juniper]

Well amd backwards engineers their tdp to kinda match intels way of defining it

[timid carbon]

TDP is thermal design power

[gritty mantle]

ok so i need a 100w tdp cooler

[timid carbon]

no

you need ATLEAST a 100tdp cooler

[gritty mantle]

for a i9

yeah thats what i meant

[shrewd juniper]

No just get a scythe fuma 2 minimum arctic liquid ii at the best

[knotty eagle]

Mmmmm

Need more than that

[shrewd juniper]

Really?

Well assuming not overclocked?

[knotty eagle]

9900K pulls 200W loaded

That's an AVX workload sure but not overclocked either

[gritty mantle]

well it said 95

[knotty eagle]

95W iss TDP

Pay no attention to TDP

[gritty mantle]

i feel so stupid rn

[knotty eagle]

That only applies to base clocks

not boost clocks

[timid carbon]

Chip tdp is a scam for sure

[gritty mantle]

what

[shrewd juniper]

Damm really? I thought it was similar to 10700k

[gritty mantle]

so what doe i need

[shrewd juniper]

Just ignore tdp

[gritty mantle]

ddo

do

[knotty eagle]

250W overclocked

[gritty mantle]

250w what

[shrewd juniper]

Danm

[rose isle]

360AIO

[timid carbon]

thats more than my graphics card lmao

[gritty mantle]

something cheaper?

[rose isle]

280 aio?

[timid carbon]

280mm AIO

[shrewd juniper]

Whats budget?

[gritty mantle]

like 60

[rose isle]

misstype

[gritty mantle]

it can be higher if it needs to

60 for the cooler

[timid carbon]

it needs to be

[shrewd juniper]

Ehhh scythe fuma 2 is 60$ but it's not enough you're budget should be 80$ at least

[gritty mantle]

ok lol

ok 80

[shrewd juniper]

It's like a 500$ cpu

[gritty mantle]

300 for me

[shrewd juniper]

Ek basic 240mm aio

[gritty mantle]

i live in the netherlands

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah but it was a 500$ cpu

[gritty mantle]

ok

[shrewd juniper]

Wait have you bought yet?

[gritty mantle]

no

[shrewd juniper]

Don't if you haven't

No

It's 3 years old

Get a 10700k instead it's cheaper and newer

[gritty mantle]

ok ill check

[timid carbon]

why do you need those many cores?

Is it for gaming only?

[gritty mantle]

i prefer amd

[timid carbon]

the pc that is

[gritty mantle]

ye gaming

[timid carbon]

Get an 11500k

[shrewd juniper]

Amd isn't valid at 300 price point

[knotty eagle]

10700 has same power draw

[gritty mantle]

can I get a ryzen 7

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah but it's cheaper

[knotty eagle]

Ya

[shrewd juniper]

No r7 is 450€

Don't get ryzen 3000

It's old and overpriced atm

Intel is best for budget

Atm

[gritty mantle]

yeah but am4 mobos are cheaper

[shrewd juniper]

Not by enough

Intel i5 11400 and a b560 motherboard is cheaper than just a ryzen 5 5600x

[gritty mantle]

ok

and a 2700x?

[shrewd juniper]

God no

2 gens old

[gritty mantle]

ok

[shrewd juniper]

And 2nd gen ryzen is meh

Do you just want to game?

[gritty mantle]

yeah

[shrewd juniper]

I5 11400, b560 motherboard, gammaxx 400 or id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5 cooler

Like 300ish all together

[gritty mantle]

and why not ryzen 5 3600x

or 5600x

[shrewd juniper]

Because it's old and overpriced

5600x is close enough to an 11400

[rose isle]

counterpoint: zero upgrade path

[shrewd juniper]

And it's 120 more

[shrewd juniper]

Neither does amd

Both end of life sockets

[rose isle]

but 5600x.. to 5900x

get a 560 board and you cant get a high spec intel later

[gritty mantle]

but how is a i5 better then a i9

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah but gaming and 5600x is just not a good deal

[shrewd juniper]

Depends what models

[gritty mantle]

ok

[shrewd juniper]

But i5 11400 will perform same of better than i9 9900k

[gritty mantle]

is there a good ryzen 7 model

[shrewd juniper]

In games

[shrewd juniper]

Yes 5800x but it's expensive, 400€

Out of your budget

[gritty mantle]

yes

[rose isle]

also runs warm, so you need a good cooler

[gritty mantle]

and 3800x

[shrewd juniper]

No

[gritty mantle]

ok

[shrewd juniper]

Ryzen isn't viable at your price pointttt

[shrewd juniper]

Tbf so does 5600x but yeah

[gritty mantle]

its 300

[shrewd juniper]

It's worse than intels offerings

That's why it's not viable

I mean it is but it's worse for more money

[gritty mantle]

thats offensive lol

[shrewd juniper]

Huh

[knotty eagle]

5600x does run hot

[gritty mantle]

nvm

[knotty eagle]

It's a thing

[gritty mantle]

wow im regular now

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah sips has it on a 360 and it still runs hot

Trust me i recommended i5 11400 and b560 because it's the best value for gaming in your budget

And only needs a 30€ cooler

[knotty eagle]

Arctic freezer with offset CPU mount is king for AMD right now

[gritty mantle]

its 100 less than my budget

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah

[shrewd juniper]

You still have to buy a motherboard and cooler and it's not as good

And you gotta but ram

[gritty mantle]

no

[shrewd juniper]

Remember bout the ram lol

[rose isle]

maybe get a z board so that you can get a better processor down the line?

[gritty mantle]

my budget is 1300

but for my cpu 300

gpu is 300

[shrewd juniper]

You're still better off with 11400

[shrewd juniper]

Wtf are you smoking not in this market

[gritty mantle]

yeah i found a rx 5500 xt 8gb for 300 lol

[shrewd juniper]

That's baf

Bad

Quite bad actually

[gritty mantle]

its my only choice

it was

it still is

[shrewd juniper]

🤦 wait for a drop

You can use intel igpu til then

[gritty mantle]

wdym

[shrewd juniper]

You should be getting a 3060 or 3060 ti or 3070 for your budget

Wait for a gpu drop

When they come back in stock

[gritty mantle]

hmmmm

[shrewd juniper]

Use the integrated graphics on your intel cpu until then

[unique lily]

Theodorito#6877 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[gritty mantle]

i have a friend who has a 1030 left

[shrewd juniper]

Or just buy a prebuilt it's easier if you're already building a whole new system

[gritty mantle]

nonononono

[shrewd juniper]

1030s aren't worth spending the money on

[gritty mantle]

no

my friend has one spare

[shrewd juniper]

Why it's the easiest way to get a gpu

[gritty mantle]

for free

[shrewd juniper]

Okay then use that until you can get a 3060 /ti or 3070

[gritty mantle]

ok thats a good idea

[shrewd juniper]

But nothing wrong with just buying a prebuilt

[gritty mantle]

how fast do you think the prices will drop

[gritty mantle]

ik know but i just want the expierence

if i have to ill wait 1 year

[shrewd juniper]

Okay buy it's a lot more hassle to get a gou

[gritty mantle]

?

[shrewd juniper]

Not til q4 2022 I'd say

Mb worse

[gritty mantle]

thats ok

[shrewd juniper]

That's in a year and a half

[gritty mantle]

i can play mc

[shrewd juniper]

Fair

[gritty mantle]

how much does a 3070 cost normally

[knotty eagle]

$600 now thereabouts for the cheapest one

[gritty mantle]

I mean without a crisis

?

[shrewd juniper]

Supposed to be 500

[knotty eagle]

I got mine for $559 before the Tariffs hit

[sacred wren]

Hopefully the lhr cards help

[shrewd juniper]

Depends on what model of 3070 tho, 500-650

[knotty eagle]

Increased prices from retailers aren't due to miners

It's due to Tariffs

Taxes

[sacred wren]

Yeah, but hopefully scalpers won't be able to charge as much because of supply and demand

Without miners wanting them the demand will drop

[knotty eagle]

Eh, that won't change. PC demand is up 26%

which is huge

26% 4th quarter of last year

[gritty mantle]

and what if i use 1200 for aa build without a gpu

[sacred wren]

On a subreddit I'm on for pc selling and such cards have gone up in price (30 series anyways) because miners are trying to get as many as possible before the lhr cards are everywhere instead

[gritty mantle]

then i have 500 when the gpus prices are normal

[shrewd juniper]

Not really mainly consumer demand

[sacred wren]

3070s went from 1250-1300 to 1500, 3060 tis went from 1050-1100 to 1300

[knotty eagle]

You realize the majority of miners are actually gamers that mine on them when not gaming......right.

[sacred wren]

Not really. On the sub I'm on miners have started mass buying cards. I've seen 3 posts today alone of miners wanting 10-15 cards

[gritty mantle]

@shrewd juniper if i build a pc for 1200 without a gpu what cpu should i buy

[sacred wren]

Theo would it need integrated graphics?

[gritty mantle]

no my friend has a spare 1030

[sacred wren]

Alr

[knotty eagle]

Heh

[rose isle]

how profitable is mining on a single card?

[sacred wren]

For 1200 you could prolly get an 11th gen i7 or 5600x

Check out r/harewareswap people buy pre builds for the gpus and then sell the rest

[knotty eagle]

Depends on the market. Depending on ethbprice i make 5-15 a day on a 3070

[gritty mantle]

I can wait

by playing mc

1030 isnt terrible

[sacred wren]

I've seen a pre build with an 11700f going for 650-700

I had a 1030in my old pc ik

I played bo4on it at around 50fps

[gritty mantle]

ok

I really prefer amd

is there a way to get a ryzen7 for less than 450

[sacred wren]

This is the build I've seen going aroundhttps://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-gaming-desktop-intel-core-i7-11700kf-16gb-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-2tb-hdd-512gb-ssd/6455824.p?skuId=6455824

As in a full build with a ryzen 7?

[gritty mantle]

yes

[sacred wren]

I dont think that'd be possible

[gritty mantle]

now

no*

not a prebuilt

just a good ryzen 7 for less than 450

[sacred wren]

You could pretty easily find a 5800x for that, theyre widely available for msrp now

Maybe a tiny bit over msrp, but still

[gritty mantle]

in the netherlands are all the cpus available

[sacred wren]

Oh

I'm not sure on that one

Go to ebay and search 5800x and check the prices

[gritty mantle]

443

[sacred wren]

What currency is thay?

[gritty mantle]

wdym

im sorry im not a native speaker

or something

[sacred wren]

Like we have USD for the US

The UK uses pounds

[gritty mantle]

oh euros

[sacred wren]

Would thay be euros?

Ah kk

That is really expensive for a 5800x

[gritty mantle]

w8 ill tray pcpartpicker

try

[knotty eagle]

England uses pounds

[sacred wren]

Yeah

[knotty eagle]

The rest of the UK is euros

[sacred wren]

Oh

But yeah that is a crazy price for a 5800x

[gritty mantle]

ok maybe a

w8

ryzen 9 3900x is 430

i mean pro 3900

I dont no anything about those

[sacred wren]

Check out the price for a 10th gen i7

[gritty mantle]

these

idk

[gritty mantle]

k

[sacred wren]

I'm not sure about there but they're not scalped here

So you might be better off with that

[gritty mantle]

what kind of i7

[sacred wren]

I guess check out 10700k

I believe thag isn't the one with integrated graphics

[gritty mantle]

315

[knotty eagle]

K means overclockable

F means no igpu

[gritty mantle]

it has

[sacred wren]

Oh then check 10700f

[gritty mantle]

or kf right?

[sacred wren]

Yeah I think so

[gritty mantle]

300

for f

[sacred wren]

I'm not sure what they go for normally, @knotty eagle do you knoe?

Know*

[gritty mantle]

it sais normally 400

a year ago

[shrewd juniper]

Yes really lol

[sacred wren]

If that's accurate that's not awful, but as I said I don't know intel cpus the best

[knotty eagle]

10700F MSRP is like 269

[gritty mantle]

well i dont know either

[shrewd juniper]

Depends on card but like 5-12$/day on a 3070

[shrewd juniper]

I5 11400, b560, gammaxx 400 cooler, 16gb 3600cl16 ram

[gritty mantle]

really?

[sacred wren]

That's decent, 11th gen i5 is similar to 10th gen i7 right?

[gritty mantle]

I can spend 250 more

[knotty eagle]

Maybe 11500

[low pumice]

mass buying cards will start becoming less useful

[gritty mantle]

its weird how vaccinating people lowers the gpu price

[low pumice]

did it though

[sacred wren]

Speaking of vaccines I just got my first shot yesterday

Wait no Wednesday

[gritty mantle]

if it doesnt the prices will stay the same

[gritty mantle]

pog

my grandma isnt even vaccinated yet

[sacred wren]

Damn

Whats the age currently in the netherlands?

[gritty mantle]

bc of this guy

[gritty mantle]

idk 65

[sacred wren]

That's what's good about the land of guns and cheeseburgers

[gritty mantle]

no 60

no

[sacred wren]

Idk how but were doing good in that area

[gritty mantle]

i think its bc of the stupid people lol

no off

[sacred wren]

Fair enough

[gritty mantle]

but no one whants to be vaccinated

[sacred wren]

Tbf there's a decent amount of people who could've gotten vaccinated and just didn't here

So they lowered the age faster

[gritty mantle]

omg im actually kinda right

[sacred wren]

I've got multiple friends who haven't and said they aren't going to get it

[shrewd juniper]

Spend it on trying to get a gpu, actually send your pc part picker list

[gritty mantle]

well its kind of a mess now

[shrewd juniper]

No just a coincidence lol

[low pumice]

sssshuffle

[sacred wren]

What gpu are you planning on going for theo?

[shrewd juniper]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list

[low pumice]

Quarantine demonstrated that people need to upgrade, so people will keep trying to get parts to upgrade, even when quarantine ended

[gritty mantle]

well like 3000 series

[knotty eagle]

26% demand increase

HUGE

[gritty mantle]

200%*

[sacred wren]

Well it depends on what 3000 series. If you want a 3060 ti, a ryzen 3600 or 10th gen i5 is fine

[low pumice]

26% overall demand sounds about right

[sacred wren]

But if you want a 3080 you'd probably want something stronger

[knotty eagle]

That was a published stat

[gritty mantle]

my head hurts

[low pumice]

TSMC had like 10% extra fab space to start off iirc

[shrewd juniper]

3600 should never be bought in 2021

[gritty mantle]

oh i understand

[low pumice]

3600 is just dead nowadays

[shrewd juniper]

I5 11400 or 11500

[gritty mantle]

3080 then

[low pumice]

I haven't seen any places where 3600 makes sense

[sacred wren]

Yeah ig an i5 is better to go with

[shrewd juniper]

3060/ti/3070

[low pumice]

11400 is good, 11600k/10700 if you want

[gritty mantle]

3090 is overkill right

[sacred wren]

Yeah pretty much

[shrewd juniper]

Yes and you cant afford

[low pumice]

3090 is uselessly overkill

[low pumice]

:(

[shrewd juniper]

3090 is basically a titan card

[gritty mantle]

so what do i need for a 3080

[sacred wren]

I've got a 3060 ti and wish I had just a bit more power for streaming, but you can run any game currently out on max settings at 1080p with a 3060 ti

[low pumice]

there is no "need"

but 11400 or 10700 or 11600k is good

[shrewd juniper]

Bout 1.2k to buy one XD

[gritty mantle]

all i5?

[shrewd juniper]

10700 is i7

[gritty mantle]

normally imean

ok

[shrewd juniper]

But the 5/7 doesn't really matter

It's more the amount of cores it has

[sacred wren]

Yeah its mostly just a difference in cords

[gritty mantle]

and how cool it sounds

[sacred wren]

Single core and single thread performance is pretty similar

[gritty mantle]

and what cooler should i get then

[sacred wren]

Doesn't 3700x out perform 10th gen i7 for gaming?

[shrewd juniper]

No

[low pumice]

nonono

10700 outperforms 3700x easy

[sacred wren]

Really?

[low pumice]

3700x outperforms 10700 in multi-core tho

yes

[sacred wren]

I could've sworn I saw that somewhere

[shrewd juniper]

For i5 11400/11500? Gammaxx 400, id cooling se 224xt or vetroo v5

[gritty mantle]

for a 10700

[low pumice]

3700x is better for multi core, worse in single core which matters more for games

[shrewd juniper]

For 11600k/10700 scythe fuma 2

[low pumice]

yeye

[gritty mantle]

and what about water cooling

[low pumice]

meh

air coolers will do just fine

[gritty mantle]

yeah ik

[low pumice]

aio is just spending double the money

[sacred wren]

Oh yeah it does out perform the 3700x a decent bit

[low pumice]

freezer ii

[gritty mantle]

and is there something pretty

[low pumice]

freezer ii is the only aio that makes sense for price to performance

ek-aio is meh, workable

[shrewd juniper]

Are you calling scythe fuma 2 ugly ;-; rood

[low pumice]

galahad is expensive

[shrewd juniper]

Galahad too expensive

[low pumice]

and ye freezer ii and fuma 2 are beautiful >:P

I wonder how they'll price the rgb freezer ii lol

[gritty mantle]

Scythe Big Shuriken 3 RGB looks good

[low pumice]

bruh

[gritty mantle]

ok

[low pumice]

that's like a wraith spire

[gritty mantle]

nvm

[low pumice]

lol

[shrewd juniper]

Not what we said

theo

[gritty mantle]

ik

[low pumice]

performance over looks

[gritty mantle]

lol

[low pumice]

Hell, I doubt that cooler can cool a 11400 while boosting

[gritty mantle]

there are water cooling systems for 60

[low pumice]

DONT

[gritty mantle]

OK

[low pumice]

60$ aios are just asking for either leaking or mediocre performance imo

and/or loud

[gritty mantle]

what about that black noctua thing

[low pumice]

which one

[gritty mantle]

i forgot the name

[sacred wren]

I was thinking about getting a water cooler for a bit, but yeah it's pretty expensive to get a decent one

[low pumice]

they don't make sense price wise

hell, Noctua still hasn't released the black u12a >:(

[shrewd juniper]

Not for 60$

[gritty mantle]

NH-D15

oh nvm

[shrewd juniper]

That's like 120€

[gritty mantle]

expensive

[low pumice]

yea

:P

freezer ii at those prices

[sacred wren]

Wait no not that first one

Both those links were wrong lmao

[low pumice]

Smh

[sacred wren]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07GB5JRTZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A2T6N244WTLWGU&psc=1

[gritty mantle]

but seriously is there something pretty

[sacred wren]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082V7TCSB/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3JC3X3O0Y5YSA&psc=1

there we go

[low pumice]

P12 good fan

Se-224-xt neat

[sacred wren]

yeah someone here helped me the other day

[low pumice]

@gritty mantle why is fuma 3 not pretty

:(

[shrewd juniper]

Not in Netherlands afaik

[gritty mantle]

sorry

[gritty mantle]

no they arent

[sacred wren]

basically because skytechis awful i had to move cases and was told my wraith prism with 2 stock fans would be fine in the cooler master n400

[gritty mantle]

i mean rgb

[sacred wren]

it was hitting 85 under half load

my 3600 that is

my 3060 ti gaming oc pro is doing fine by itself though

[shrewd juniper]

Get a vetroo v5 , it's rgb and on Amazon

[sacred wren]

rn until i can buy these im using my room fan on top of my pc to keep it cool lmfao

like 1ft by 1ft but it works

[gritty mantle]

for 30?

[shrewd juniper]

Ye

[gritty mantle]

ok

it looks good

there is a liquid cooler of that

[shrewd juniper]

It's good for i5 11400

[gritty mantle]

ffor 80

[shrewd juniper]

No

[gritty mantle]

no im going for a 10700

idk what im going for anymore

[sacred wren]

they have basically the same performance for gaming

[shrewd juniper]

Ehh should be okay but I'm not 100% sure

[sacred wren]

11400 would probably be cheaper tho, no?

[shrewd juniper]

@low pumice you think vetroo v5 would handle a 10700?

[shrewd juniper]

Why 11400 is faster in games anyway

[gritty mantle]

o ok

[low pumice]

Vetroo v5 should do, but aren't they in Netherlands?

[gritty mantle]

but i just dont understand how that is the best choice for 450

[gritty mantle]

yeas they are

[shrewd juniper]

No id cooling :( only in uk in the eu but vetroo is there

[low pumice]

I've only seen vetroo v5 in the US

Huh

[shrewd juniper]

It's on Amazon de and uk as well

[low pumice]

Wack

Haven't seen it for Canada or Australia

[shrewd juniper]

For gaming, 11400

[shrewd juniper]

Only gammaxx there for budget yeah

[low pumice]

Australia has fuma iirc

[shrewd juniper]

I think so

[low pumice]

11400 v 10700k is just 10700k having more cores, but 11400 having faster cores

[gritty mantle]

ok thx

gtg

you guys are amazing thx alot

[low pumice]

Now, don't buy a h510 and you should be set

[shrewd juniper]

Please don't

Or a crappy psu

[low pumice]

With some cases, it just nullifies any good choices you made with coolers imo

:p

[sacred wren]

i just spent a ton on a 750w evga psu bc i needed it fast and my local pc shop had them in stock for 150, and bc skytech used a 400w psu instead of 600

[low pumice]

Uh

[gritty mantle]

no deepcool 55

[low pumice]

Plz don't be w1 or n1

[shrewd juniper]

? Get a p360a

Or corsair 4000d airflow or td500 mesh

[low pumice]

Uh mattrexx 55 is the boi with a glass front panel it seems

Try p400a or p500a or td500 mesh or lancool ii mesh, those have nice rgb

[low pumice]

[sacred wren]

one sec i can check the model

[low pumice]

Check PSU tier list that's pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling

[sacred wren]

evga were the only psus they had

and i didnt have time to wait to order one online

[low pumice]

EVGA doesn't say anything about the quality of the model :p

[sacred wren]

80+ bronze

[rose isle]

mattrexx 55 doesnt even have a PSU shroud... avoid

[sacred wren]

idk if thats the model i dont know psus well

[low pumice]

Br? Ba? B5?

[sacred wren]

bq

[low pumice]

Bronze is just efficiency rating, safe to ignore

Bq is meh, at least it's not one of the blowing up ones

[sacred wren]

the one from skytech was a 400w 80+ thermaltake

80+ gold*

glad thats gone

im guessing 150 for it tho was pretty overpriced

[low pumice]

Definitely

WAYYYYY overpriced

I'd say double what it's worth

[sacred wren]

its a local business so most of what they have is overpriced

[low pumice]

400w is wack

No best buy nearby?

[sacred wren]

no the evga one is 750w

not really

the thermaletake that came from skytech was 400w

[low pumice]

Yeye

I'm saying thermal take doesn't have any conventional 400w units

So anyways

[sacred wren]

basically, i went to replace the mobo in my pre build since i found a guy selling an asrock b550 for 40$ as well as 16gb 3600mhz ram for 40$

but the case was made to only fit the biostar that came with the pc

[low pumice]

Lol

[sacred wren]

so i got a case from the pc shop and went home to put the pc together, but there was too many wires and everything for me to handle

havent built a pc before

so what was a 1275$ pc ended up being over 1700

[low pumice]

Fun

[sacred wren]

yeah

[low pumice]

Imo should've just ordered from Amazon

[sacred wren]

i did

thats where i got the pc

[low pumice]

Instead of getting overpriced things from PC shop

[sacred wren]

ah

i needed the pc quickly for school

[low pumice]

Prime 1 day shipping tho

[sacred wren]

im online still because the kids at my school are stupid

and i dont have another pc to use for it

yeah ig

idk

[shrewd juniper]

Use your phone to order it?

[gritty mantle]

Idk i dont like the mesh

[shrewd juniper]

Mesh=not choking your pc

[shrewd juniper]

Check 4000d airflow

[gritty mantle]

The matrexx 55 looks perfect

[shrewd juniper]

Naeee

[sacred wren]

Not what I meant

I meant that I needed my pc back quickly

[shrewd juniper]

No glass front bad

[shrewd juniper]

I thought you said you didn't have pc to buy a psu with prime

[sacred wren]

Nah I meant I needed my pc back quickly for school, so I just bought it from the pc shop

[shrewd juniper]

150 for bq is yikes

[sacred wren]

I know I could've bought it with my phone

Yeah

[gritty mantle]

It does

[shrewd juniper]

NO, glass front bad*

I missed the comma

[gritty mantle]

Oh

[shrewd juniper]

Glass front bad

No air

Look at the 4000d airflow @gritty mantle

[gritty mantle]

Oh

[shrewd juniper]

You like that?

[gritty mantle]

I did

Doesn't look good

[shrewd juniper]

Lies it's beautiful

Why do you want glass front theo

Glass side is all you need

[gritty mantle]

Matrexx 55 too

It get a boner for it

[tired fog]

glass fronts 😳

[shrewd juniper]

Read the rules pg13

[shrewd juniper]

It's got terrible airflow you will literally choke your pc

[shrewd juniper]

Big yikes

[tired fog]

the only glass front case you should prob consider buying is the 5000x, others are either too small or suck at ventilation

[shrewd juniper]

Corsair 4000x would do tbh

@gritty mantle

[gritty mantle]

From

[shrewd juniper]

Corsair i just said

4000x/5000x

[gritty mantle]

Sorry i have bad wifi

[shrewd juniper]

Aight

[tired fog]

yee most likely, it's much cheaper than a 5000x

[gritty mantle]

Dude i scrolled 10 hours for that thing

[shrewd juniper]

5000x spensive

[tired fog]

yeah just saw and it's like $190-$200 😳, at least it comes with a fan and rgb hub

[gritty mantle]

4000x looks ok

[shrewd juniper]

Get that over the other one anyday get that then

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah but comes with 3 rgb fans so that saves like 100$ if you were gonna buy corsair rgb fans anyway xd

[tired fog]

lmao true

[shrewd juniper]

Or you get to keep your kidney X)

[tired fog]

you only need one, after all

[shrewd juniper]

Exactly but never harm to have one the next time you need a gpu upgrade

[tired fog]

sell your cornea, you only need one, after all

[gritty mantle]

I will make little breathing holes lol

[shrewd juniper]

That's what the mesh is don't try and cut a glass front panel

Just get the 400x i thought you liked?

[tired fog]

cutting holes in a glass panel will most likely get it all shattered if you don't do it correctly, i recommend, as pakotav said, to just get a mesh case, there's almost no difference in terms of looks compared to a case with a glass front and you get better airflow

[weary slate]

Unless you have diamond bits or blades that will just shatter the glass.

And even with a diamond bit or cutting blade working with glass sucksssss

[shrewd juniper]

Even still the 4000x has glass front and still allows air like

And not to mention wholes in glass would look ugly af

[tired fog]

yeah, best bet at this point ngl

[shrewd juniper]

V picky, like i can understand wanting side glass but not front lol you'll just stare at 2 fans

[weary slate]

I sorta get glass front if you have nice rgb fans and the only thing you care about is the look and not performance but a mesh front panel will always outperform

[shrewd juniper]

The matrexx 55(case they want) doesn't even have fan space tho

In the front that is

[weary slate]

Oh yea that's pretty lame then, I was thinking more of like the corsair cases with glass front panels or like the o11 when people put really nice rgb fans in them.

[shrewd juniper]

That's why i recommended 4000x lol

[weary slate]

Which also along that topic am I the only one who feels like some of the super budget rgb fans look arguably worse than just a more reserved fan without lighting? Like I'm not going to argue that some of corsair's fans or like the unifan don't look amazing but like the super cheap ones honestly look worse to me than had they just not been lit

That said I'm also realizing that's probably a hot take especially when I'm already not super into rgb lol

[shrewd juniper]

Completely agree lol

[gritty mantle]

It was a joke dude

[tired fog]

smh, it'll be cool if you put holes innit

[gritty mantle]

Wel it would be cool but not good for cooling

Ok enough bad jokes

[gritty mantle]

Yes thx ill get the 4000x

It looks great actually

The price is 115 tho

[gritty mantle]

Yeah sometimes i forget that performance is more important

[low pumice]

how do you forget that you want a computer to do it's job :P

oh well

[weary slate]

I'm just thinking of the old I think it was kingston 2.5"ssd that the rgb on it used so much power it caused heat issues with the drive lol

[low pumice]

lol

[weary slate]

take it back it was a hyper x fury with over 75 led's in the 2.5" casing

[gritty mantle]

Its funny how a rgb psu is the best and cheapest one i can get

[weary slate]

which psu?

[gentle snow]

Any cheap fans someone can recommend?

[knotty eagle]

Arctic P12 PWM

[weary slate]

arctic p12

[low pumice]

it's funny how pinned in #cases-psu-and-cooling :)

but yea arctic p12 is bae

[gentle snow]

Are they in white

[low pumice]

might have a varient

[weary slate]

they do actually have white ones now i thinkl

[gentle snow]

Gotta have whites, i’ll check them out thank you

[weary slate]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-ACFAN00119A-P12-Black-Pressure-Optimized/dp/B081VQBB6G?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1 unfortunetly they don't sell the white ones as a 5 pack but they're $10 each on amazon

[gentle snow]

Trans white or white?

They are €7 here on a local site

[knotty eagle]

one on the left is clear

One on the right is white

[weary slate]

transparent has a kinda clear plastic fan blade if you like the look which i personally dont

[gritty mantle]

Let me guess

[gentle snow]

Bett i’ll cop them normal whites then

[gritty mantle]

Ur buying the h510

[gentle snow]

Oh hell nah

[gritty mantle]

O

Gj

[gentle snow]

I am copping darkflash dlm21 mesh

Looks amazing in my setup

[gritty mantle]

Ew

[gentle snow]

I am going for a aesthatic build, no rgb. I’ma keep it simple 🙂

[gritty mantle]

Well

Maybe

[gritty mantle]

Yeah ok

[gentle snow]

Why?

[gritty mantle]

I dont like mesh in front of rgb

But without it should look great

[knotty eagle]

They just said no RGB lol

[gentle snow]

Yeah for a rgb build it’d be a bit weird but for a full white setup it’ll do it’s worm

Work

[gritty mantle]

After i said ew

[knotty eagle]

LOL

[gritty mantle]

Well goodluck

[gentle snow]

Tbh i think rgb would look kinda clean too in it

I’ve seen multiple nice builds withit

[knotty eagle]

RGB looks great in white cases

[gentle snow]

Yeah i love them white cases

U gonna tell me this looks ugly? 😂

[weary slate]

lol was looking at that case and wow such a great deal amazon

[gentle snow]

It’s €50 here lmao

(Around 60 dollars)

[weary slate]

nice I just find it hilarious how amazon crossed out the price and then put the same price

[gentle snow]

Lmao 😂😂

[gentle snow]

They want you to add your debit card so bad

[weary slate]

But yea isn't the expensive part of itx the board and stuff or is the case typically pricey too?

[weary slate]

Yea they're mad because I signed up for my free prime trial as a student and so I don't forget to cancel it I remove my payment method after each purchase lol

[gentle snow]

In the Netherlands normally the smaller motherboards are really cheap in local shops

[gentle snow]

It’s mATX btw

[weary slate]

oh that's why I glanced at title and it had mAtx and itx listed that's what got me lol. and that makes more sense because typically matx is the cheapest option

That said for most people you won't need anything more than matx

[gritty mantle]

Wait are u dutch

[gentle snow]

Yes exactly, i need a 560M board tho

Most of them are kinda bad

[gentle snow]

Yes i am

[gritty mantle]

Zeg makker had dat dan eerder gezegd

[gentle snow]

Potverdrie jan dorrie

[gritty mantle]

Lol

[weary slate]

just an fyi #rules 13 is english only

[gritty mantle]

Ok

[shrewd juniper]

Yw, well you can't really complain about price when you want good airflow and glass lol

[gritty mantle]

Boeie

[gentle snow]

Ty

[weary slate]

It's more just so mods can tell what's being said lol

[gritty mantle]

Yeah ik

[gentle snow]

Wrong channel sorry

[gritty mantle]

Oh ik zit al 2 uur in deze channel over m'n hele pc te praten hoor

[shrewd juniper]

Looks nice but ngl the stock cooler looks a bit out of place lol

[shrewd juniper]

Bruh

[gentle snow]

It’s not my build

[shrewd juniper]

Fair

[gritty mantle]

We're neighbours

[weary slate]

Funniest thing is I didn't even notice it until I looked back when you said that lol

[timid carbon]

Yes. I hate the black mobo in white case and the insane amout of free space at the top. In general personally I dont like the case.

[gritty mantle]

I love black and white with loads of rgb

[gentle snow]

Your opinion

[timid carbon]

yep

[gritty mantle]

bc the mobo is mtx

Or something

[gentle snow]

Matx

[gritty mantle]

Micro atx

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah nos that you say it the space at the top looks weird

[gritty mantle]

Agreed

And atx is better

And easier

[weary slate]

i mean for a lot of people they don't need atx

[gritty mantle]

Yeah but its Just stupid to prefer 2 memory slots

Right?

[burnt sigil]

Is it viable to throw a window air conditioning unit on the front of my new PC or should I just salvage the radiator from my old jeep for a liquid setup

[gritty mantle]

Jeep?

I would prefer a working jeep

[low pumice]

This is what bryce does so

[shrewd juniper]

Ehhh no some really high end mobos only have 2 because you can push the memory further as it's not daisy chained ram

[gritty mantle]

Looks great

[timid carbon]

no what is that

[low pumice]

this is bryce

[timid carbon]

bruhhh

mans on some different stuff

[gritty mantle]

In my opinion eatx looks best especually with 8 ramsticks and rgb

[weary slate]

I mean not all matx boards only have 2 dimm slots

[timid carbon]

only available for server and threadripper iirc

[gritty mantle]

That one has

[burnt sigil]

Lmao it’s a 1989 and the unibody is rusted out, ain’t gonna keep putting in the effort to fix it

[knotty eagle]

Honestly

Car radiator too large for PC

The ports are too big

[timid carbon]

ones that have 4 turn out to be more expensive than a decent atx board

[weary slate]

lol yea that went really badly for linus

[knotty eagle]

PC radiators are actually split in half internally

To keep the pressure and the flow up

Car rads are usually left to right or top to bottom rather than up one side and down the other

[knotty eagle]

Heater core might work tho

[burnt sigil]

I have a 3D printer, that can be fixed

[knotty eagle]

It's not just the ports

Once it moves past your restriction you'll lose pressure and flow

The core is just too large for PC cooling

use a heater core instead

[burnt sigil]

I have an electric pump lying around

[knotty eagle]

Right but.....PC tubing is like 8mm diameter inside

[burnt sigil]

I’ll run a server rack off of the main radiator then

[knotty eagle]

going from that to a large radiator core won't work well

[weary slate]

At least on b560 only 3 of the options on newegg only have 2 dimm slots, but I guess my point was just some people may appreciate the savings and may not need more pcie slots or things or just want a slighly smaller build

[gritty mantle]

how tf do you have all that stuff

[burnt sigil]

I’m an engineer

[gritty mantle]

Oh

Can you build me a jetpack pls

[weary slate]

Do you want to fund the R&D lol

[burnt sigil]

I can design you one but I ain’t gonna build one because they’re expensive

[gritty mantle]

Why hasnt elon musk hired you yet

[knotty eagle]

Designing =/= building

[weary slate]

I mean there are already several good designs out there, they're just really pricey and impractical

[knotty eagle]

Besides if you want a jetpack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHk13Xa8dqI

[weary slate]

exactly what i was thinking lol

[burnt sigil]

I wouldn’t mind being apart of spacex, I do nasa and air force research projects already (space force coming soon) but there’s more money in governemnt work

[gritty mantle]

How have i missed this stuff

[weary slate]

Yea like the British NAvy is already testing out using them lol https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/4/22419267/royal-navy-jet-suit-gravity-industries

[gritty mantle]

and Are there any ufo's

[burnt sigil]

I do research, design, and prototyping, so far more DOE stuff but manufacturing gets handed off to a seperate entity from me

[storm heron]

hey all very quick question about custom liquid cooling. I literally already have 10+ really nice radiators, 6+ D5 pumps, all the fittings and blocks and everything to build a top notch CPU loop..... but do i actually have any reason to.... this is not at all for gaming - its for Unreal Engine, Z Brush, Cinema 4D. the CPU right now is 3700x but I do want to get the 5800x when I can. I already own Noctua - the huge double tower one - D15 i think

[weary slate]

That's fair my ex girlfriend worked in the private sector with a defense contractor and also did really well there too but the DoD has great jobs for engineers

[gritty mantle]

What is the question

[burnt sigil]

I’d totally use a turbofan setup for pc cooling if i can find a spare one

[gritty mantle]

Oh

[storm heron]

yeah its the D15 and its already working well but i have to pull out mobos in a few builds to do some upgrades so im trying to see if i should just do the liquid upgrade or sell it all

[gritty mantle]

In dumb

Im

[storm heron]

so should i just stick with the D15 or should i install my custom liquid loop just for the CPU

[weary slate]

with a D15 you probably don't really have any good reason to do custom loop unless you just want to or for the look

[storm heron]

again its not gaming

[shrewd juniper]

D15 will perform around same

[storm heron]

interesting

[gritty mantle]

@burnt sigil can do both

[storm heron]

i should really sell all my liquid stuff then theres so god damn much of it

[gritty mantle]

Sorry ill be quiet

[weary slate]

Yea that's probably a solid bet since some of that stuff is super pricey

[storm heron]

thanks folks

[unique lily]

BRAVOSNIPER1347#1748 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[storm heron]

oh

sorry

[shrewd juniper]

No no you can't

[knotty eagle]

Rule 9 lol

and the F bomb

[storm heron]

oh i cant do that either?

[knotty eagle]

Nope

[storm heron]

okay my b

ty

[knotty eagle]

No worries

Thx

Hoenstly

[gritty mantle]

It was a really bad joke

[knotty eagle]

Why NOT custom loop all the things if you have the parts

[gritty mantle]

Hes An engineer

[knotty eagle]

I'd do it

[storm heron]

i mean

you have a point

[knotty eagle]

You have the parts

Get to it

Seriously

[storm heron]

but its also just money sitting doing nothing and the maintenance can be suuuuch a pain

[knotty eagle]

You're not wrong there

Air is set it and forget it

XD

[storm heron]

yeah the D15 has been surprisingly effective

[knotty eagle]

I put an AIO in mine

[shrewd juniper]

Custom loop your psu and rammmmmm

[storm heron]

ive done that

[knotty eagle]

ALL THE THINGS

[storm heron]

ive liquid cooled every single things

[knotty sparrow]

Nvme water cooled

[storm heron]

on a sabertooth x79

and psu liquid cooled

[weary slate]

How do I watercool my case fans? lol

[storm heron]

had a 3930k at 4.6 for like 4 years lol

[shrewd juniper]

Gotta buy a waterblock mobo too

[knotty sparrow]

Submersion cooling

[shrewd juniper]

Then dunk the case in water so it's water cooled too

[storm heron]

the monoblocks for mobo/cpu arent good enough yet

[weary slate]

So we cool the fans by making the motors work significantly harder? lol

[knotty sparrow]

"Water" being mineral oil but yeah

[shrewd juniper]

They don't make a difference lol

Any decent vrm solution will give same perf

[weary slate]

they're just for looking pretty for the most part since decent vrm heatsinks will more than account for it

[storm heron]

yeahh

they look rad

you know what it really is tho

fan noise

i just miss the liquid silence

[gritty mantle]

'liquid silence'

Interesting

[knotty sparrow]

Go for an ice bucket open loop, overclock go brrrrrr

[storm heron]

lolol

[weary slate]

big brain find an apartment complex that includes utilities and just cool your pc with water straight out of the tap

[storm heron]

btw im very dissappointed in the meshify 2 xl. it sucks compared to my cosmos ii

biggest tech purchase regret of the past 2 years

[storm heron]

i like this idea

plate heat exchanger and all

[weary slate]

my regret was buying patriot ram lol

[knotty sparrow]

I'm in one of those, the water actually gets kinda warm in the summer

[storm heron]

that sounds painful

[weary slate]

Don't get me started with how annoyed I am with them rn lol, if it wasnt for the gpu stock issues I would have known back in november the kit was junk but instead I found out like a month ago way out of return window

[gritty mantle]

Lets Just delete that

[storm heron]

i had to buy some used ram and surprisingly these corsair kits are doing okay

looking to upgrade tho to 3600 i think. this stuff is slow

[weary slate]

Yea I'm probably going to try and resell the kit to someone with an intel build hoping it will actually hit 3600cl18 for them and buy ballistix

[knotty sparrow]

Used ram is fine tbh, there's no moving parts to wear out

[storm heron]

wise move

[shrewd juniper]

Get 3600cl16

Don't get cl18

[storm heron]

my first time but yeah so far so good. was in europe and needed a lot of ram. got lucky on facebook marketplace lol

[shrewd juniper]

Or cl19

[storm heron]

im looking for either a 32gb or 64gb kit

[shrewd juniper]

Why

[weary slate]

I was just dumb and jumped at 2x16gb 3600cl18 for $100 at black friday and have since severely regretted it

[knotty sparrow]

4400c19 on ryzen meme b-die