old-cooling

[eternal swift]

tbh i am not a fan of air cooling, the looks kill the whole vibe tbh

yeah they work well, but case compatibility is an issue

AMD STOCK COOLERS ARE GOOD THO

[knotty eagle]

The Wraith prism is good, the Stealth/spire is no better than INtel stock cooler. Just an aluminum brick.

[topaz blaze]

Prism 🤔

I’ll try to find one

[topaz blaze]

AIO are farely expensive for a budget build. And even if you go for cheapest AIO it’s not recommended. 😩

[gusty flare]

what's the processor tho

it makes less more sense to get one if u got a locked intel chip

[topaz blaze]

I have Ryzen 5 3600

[river orchid]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermicro-X9SRW-F-Intel-C602-2011-LGA-Proprietary-Desktop-Motherboard/123980259846?epid=1469494857&hash=item1cddcca206:g:QQEAAOSww-dd0uYQ what cooler would I need for this? I have an lga 2011 cpu cooler but the mounts look different

[topaz blaze]

wait so does enermax have good aios now?

ive heard some people say that they fixed the stuff where gunk was getting stuck

idk

[knotty eagle]

I don't trust them

NOt when other products exist at reasonable prices

[gusty flare]

arctic liquid freezer II pog

not too expensive but also works great

[topaz blaze]

$159 in Canada

Expensive for my budget 😩

[gusty flare]

how much is scythe mugen 5 rev.b there?

[idle tiger]

seems fine

[topaz blaze]

Yeah all of those are coming from US I think so it’s expensive in Canada. Like the Vetroo and Id Cooling is around $60-$90 with Shipping

[low pumice]

@topaz blaze again,
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=160988

:p

[topaz blaze]

Yeah I know. I was just letting the other guy know the prices for the other brands here.

[low pumice]

Dew the gammaxx 400

[topaz blaze]

Wish Gammaxx 400 had ARGB fans

[low pumice]

Uh there is a version with one

@topaz blaze don't underestimate how many damn varients they have lol
https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=160984

[topaz blaze]

Is it the same as the 400 version?

Actually doesn’t matter, it’s still better than most budget Air Cooler. Like the Hyper 212

For the same price

Thanks 👍🏽

[gusty flare]

gammaxx would prob be a model loyalty since there's so many variants u don't even need to look anywhere

even gammaxx aio

dual tower air cooler

tuf edition

kek

[bleak crescent]

should i get a liquid cpu cooler like the kraken x63

[shrewd juniper]

What cpu do you want to cool with it?

[gusty flare]

cpu?

[bleak crescent]

i9 10850k

[shrewd juniper]

A noctua u12a will perform better

[bleak crescent]

is there a black version of it

[shrewd juniper]

Yep, or get a be quite dark rock pro 4 i think it's called

[bleak crescent]

yea

[safe rock]

Which one for a 5900x CPU? Dark Rock Pro 4, ARCTIC AC Liquid Freezer II, Noctua NH-U12A

And I have never had a liquid cooler, how does it work?

I mean, do I have to put water in it every day? Feed the fish?

If it matters, I have a be quiet 802 case.

[magic wave]

Xd

[gusty flare]

prob liquid freezer II coz pog warranty

[gusty flare]

just let it run kek

gonna cool the fish with P12s

“Starting today, all water coolers from the Liquid Freezer II Series will come with a six-year guarantee from the date of purchase. ... After numerous awards for performance, price and downtime, with the extension to 6 years the Liquid Freezer II now also sets the highest standards in terms of warranty length.

[safe rock]

So it's plug and play, I don't have to connect it to my pipes 😄

Arctic it is, for 6 years wtf

Thank you

[gusty flare]

うぁｔ

oh wait that's the wrong language

[gusty flare]

nah it's already connected in the radiator

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPaSEGe6ML0

[safe rock]

Watching it. And I love that's quiet

[gusty flare]

since you're getting it for a am4 one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahbzLFUqLnk

[safe rock]

Thank you

[gusty flare]

the mounting brackets isn't identical so yea need to orient it well

[safe rock]

Piece of cake 😂

[deft star]

does it make sense to water cool my gpu but air my cpu

[tired fog]

depends

[magic scarab]

Sure but why would you?

[tired fog]

if you have multiple gpu's and don't want the extra noise, water cool them

[magic scarab]

That’s expensive tho

[tired fog]

true

[magic scarab]

And water blocks can be hard to find

For GPUs

[tired fog]

it's like water cooling multiple pi's because you don't want to hear smoll fans spinning while you work

[deft star]

oh cause my cpu is like 40-55c while gaming but gpu goes to like 75

im no where near getting one tho cause im just scouting

[tired fog]

that's fine temps ngl

[magic scarab]

What cooler do you currently have on CPU?

[deft star]

nh d15

[magic scarab]

Oh damn

Nice

[deft star]

yea is nice and cool

[magic scarab]

Watercooling a GPU but not a CPU would be unusual but not unheard of, and totally doable

[deft star]

also my case has a rear fan but i cant find a 3 pin connector so i guess that would help

[magic scarab]

Fan hub time

[deft star]

what?

[shrewd juniper]

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=fan+hub&ref=nb_sb_noss

[tired fog]

molex to 3-pin 😎

[shrewd juniper]

But then runs 100% 🤮

[deft star]

but they are all 4 pins

[shrewd juniper]

You can plug a 3 pin into 4 pin i believe

[knotty eagle]

Yes

Just no speed control unless BIOS set to DC mode instead of PWM

[deft star]

oh wait i think i have an extra 4 pin then

[deft star]

like can the pc it self change it like automatically

[knotty eagle]

No, you need to change it in the BIOS

ON a per header basis

[deft star]

oh well thats better that the heat just sitting there

yea meshfy 2 is a great case i love it

[topaz blaze]

so if the 500dx actually runs hotter with 1 more intake, does that mean it would be cooler if it had another exhaust? maybe 2 more intakes? maybe a different fan config?

idk

[shrewd juniper]

Possibly, is that the case you have, and have you tried or is it someone esle?

[topaz blaze]

Are DeepCool AIO’s good? 😅

[magic scarab]

Sometimes

Why?

[topaz blaze]

Just wondering. Cuz everyone recommends Gammaxx 400 for budget builds. Just wondering if the AIO is good too.

[magic scarab]

There are better options

Not every product from a specific company is good

[topaz blaze]

Gotcha.

[shrewd juniper]

Don't you have a Ryzen 5 3600 or am i mistaken? Because you don't need aio for that unless you really want for asthetics

[topaz blaze]

Yeah I was just inquiring from you guys on products. I’m going for the Gammaxx 400 or GT.

[shrewd juniper]

Ahh okay

[topaz blaze]

Im trying to do some research on the GT ARGB vs GT V2 I’m trying to find the difference and why the GT V2 is cheaper here in Canada.

[shrewd juniper]

Probs because the v2 doesn't have argb

[barren hamlet]

current cooler: hyper 212, what should i upgrade to

looking to spend under 100

[low pumice]

NH-U12a is one option

[barren hamlet]

isnt that 100

and yes i am ok with the brown

[low pumice]

99.99 iirc

lmao it went out of stock

d15s then
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XUVGLEU

[topaz blaze]

V2 is advertised with ARGB tho?

[topaz blaze]

https://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=8_129&item_id=160985

🤷🏽‍♂️

[shrewd juniper]

¯_(ツ)_/¯ probs just one of those things that when it's discounted they put up the price, or that was it's original price and the v2 undercut msrp?

[topaz blaze]

🤷🏽‍♂️ I guess I’ll go for V2 cuz it’s upgraded version? 🤷🏽‍♂️

And its cheaper so why not

Nvm v2 is 12v rgb led compared to 5v argb led 🤷🏽‍♂️

That’s the only difference in price 🤷🏽‍♂️

[barren hamlet]

is the u12s even a worthwhile upgrade from 212

[low pumice]

u12s no

u12a yes

[barren hamlet]

ok

is the u12a so good because of the 7 heatpipes? or does the dual fan contribute more

[shrewd juniper]

both

[topaz blaze]

no i just saw gamersnexus's benchmarks on it and was wondering

since having 2 front intakes, 1 top and rear exhaust was hotter

[shrewd juniper]

Then an extra exhaust might help

[topaz blaze]

idk 3 exhausts and 1 intake seems like a stretch

[shrewd juniper]

I mean i wouldn't buy an extra fan for it but if you had a spare you could try

[topaz blaze]

yae i think i have some old 120mms lying around

or were the 140s...

idk

[shrewd juniper]

Worth a shot

[solid barn]

Arctic Freezer 34 eSports is good right? Better than a 212 Black?

because for the same $60 Price on Newegg.ca I can get the Red eSports 34 😄

[knotty eagle]

You need/want the green?

Otherwise SSE224XT is really good

[shrewd juniper]

Gammaxx 400, se 224xt, or vetroo v5

[solid barn]

I'm also buying for aesthetics. The 212 Black is better for that side of things but the eSports is better performance I think so its more worth it, besides the colors are only on the fan anyway. Could just buy a black fan later on

[shrewd juniper]

Look at the id cooling se 224xt then

[knotty eagle]

SSE 224XT has a black version. As does the Vetroo V5 I think

https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-224-XT-Cooler-Heatpipes-Cooling/dp/B08BY9P911

https://www.amazon.com/Vetroo-Cooler-Processor-Universal-Addressable/dp/B08F21X2VP

Both better than the 212 and possibly the AF34

and cheaper

I knw the Vetroo V5 is really impressive on a 5900x

[solid barn]

yeah ID cooling a no go. same price as my Motherboard from Amazon lol

[knotty eagle]

wat

It's like, $30

XD

[shrewd juniper]

What region?

[solid barn]

Canada tho

[knotty eagle]

Ahhhhh

[solid barn]

Canada really sucsk

[knotty eagle]

Makes sense

[solid barn]

sucks*

[knotty eagle]

What about the Vetroo?

[shrewd juniper]

Probs looking at the 234 or something

Nvm 93$ amazon cananda 💀

[knotty eagle]

Yep

Canada weird like that :/

[shrewd juniper]

Vetroo v5 non existent pcpp cananda

[solid barn]

vetroo v5 black is $37.83 + $24.56 delivery from Hong Kong. So thats like $70 with tax. Not really worth TBH

[tired fog]

vetroo v5 is non existent on all pcpp iirc

[shrewd juniper]

But not a single vetroo product showed up

[shrewd juniper]

I guess 212 is your best bet then

[knotty eagle]

Poooo

AF34 then

[solid barn]

AF34 yeah

[knotty eagle]

Scythe is good too but not sure they have black ones

[solid barn]

212 Black is nice but not for $60 + $25 shipping from newegg

and thats the best place to get it too

[knotty eagle]

Ohhoh, what about noctua

[tired fog]

their redux series is cheap

[knotty eagle]

They spendy there too?

[solid barn]

depends which one, probably too expensive

whats a good one

u12hs? or whatever its called

lol

[knotty eagle]

Yeah, that's a good one

What CPU are you cooling?

[solid barn]

NH-U12S*

[knotty eagle]

Gammax makes a black one as well

[solid barn]

uhhh I'm planning on 3600, I wanna invest in a good aftermarket cooler

[knotty eagle]

Gammax should actually do well

Gammax 400 Black https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-GAMMAXX-Cooler-Heatpipes-Anodized/dp/B08C2TJ4QZ

BLECH

$100

[solid barn]

NH-U12S redux is like $76.10 off newegg sold by Noctua Cooling Solutions, TBH its kinda ugly tho

[shrewd juniper]

Does canada not have free shipping wtf

[knotty eagle]

No, Canada products entirely different from US

[solid barn]

not on the 212 Black lol

sad part is its sold and shipped BY newegg but no free shipping

[shrewd juniper]

Yeah but i mean, in Ireland i get free shipping on anything over 20 from Amazon UK

[knotty eagle]

Yeah, Canada weird tho

[solid barn]

Canada do be weird

[shrewd juniper]

Fair lol

[solid barn]

can confirm

[barren hamlet]

get the chromax one then

[tired fog]

redux is the cheap version lmao

[barren hamlet]

ik but he didnt say anything about price he just said it ugly

[knotty eagle]

TGhey want black

For their build

[solid barn]

$94.95 on amazon for the black

[barren hamlet]

holy

[knotty eagle]

Canada eh

[solid barn]

sold by noctua tho lol

[barren hamlet]

oh CAD

[barren hamlet]

thats only like 70 usd

74

[solid barn]

really wish Discord would allow emojis in names, could rep a canadian flag lol

[tired fog]

i'm pretty sure you can on mobile

[solid barn]

hmmm

[tired fog]

lol

[solid barn]

works on mobile correctly but not PC

ANYWAY enough non cooler talk I'm gonna get in trouble

it seems like the F34 eSports is what I'll be going with

[knotty eagle]

Yain't get in trouble

[shrewd juniper]

1 USD!=1 CAD

[barren hamlet]

no?

1 usd = 0.8 cad

[shrewd juniper]

Sorry let me explain != Means not equal while coding

[barren hamlet]

well how am i supposed to know that

[shrewd juniper]

So i just wanted thinking

Don't except you to just wasn't thinking lol

[safe rock]

Can liquid coolers go nuts on your CPU? CPU coolers 😄

[shrewd juniper]

What do you mean exactly?

As in nuts good or break nuts?

[safe rock]

I mean can something bad happen? I am thinking about water, electricity 😄

I have no idea how it works.

[shrewd juniper]

Technically but aios are pretty safe, they are tightly fitted and have good seals

[safe rock]

Should I switch to an air one if I don't plan to OC?

[shrewd juniper]

If you want the asthetics and stuff, but the artic freezer 360( i think is what you had) will keep it nice and cool, but at same time so will a nhd15 so personal preference

[safe rock]

No aesthetics required 😄 The 280 was the choice. Hm, so I shouldn't be worried about safety stuff.

Thanks

[shrewd juniper]

Np

Tbh I'd get the aio just cuz it's cool, well not cold cool but just the factor of an aio :o

[safe rock]

Probably will get the AIO too.

[shrewd juniper]

Nice

[fringe ridge]

I want to get a corsair AIO but I read that it can interfere with my vengeance RGB with some motherboards...

What are your experience with that?

[astral mica]

which cooling system should i get for my ryzen 5 1300

[fringe ridge]

Are you planning to oc?

If you plan to run at stock speeds the included Wraith Stealth should be fine

However if it's not good enough for you you can always get a CoolerMaster hyper 212 EVO

There's also a rgb variant if thats what you want

[magic scarab]

Gross

Old and gross and overpriced

[fringe ridge]

What would you reccomend then?

[magic scarab]

Gammax 400, Vetroo V2, and SE-224 all outclass it and are cheaper

[fringe ridge]

It's not that expansive and it gets the job done

[magic scarab]

Not as well as the 3 I just listed

Which are cheaper, usually

[fringe ridge]

You may be right I don't know the last 2 coolers

[magic scarab]

SE-224 is from ID-cooling so you should have heard of it

Vetroo V2 has been getting a lot of attention recently for performance on higher end Zen3

Positive attention, I might add

[fringe ridge]

I can't seem to find the vetroo v2

[topaz blaze]

no point

[fringe ridge]

I thought the 212 was still a relevant cooler for cheaper builds that don't involve larger CPUs

[knotty eagle]

Nope

Gets outperformed by cheaper coolers

By quite a margin

[fringe ridge]

Sorry for my ignorance then

[knotty eagle]

no worries

Other coolers aren't available in some countries tho

LIke the SSe224XT or Gammax

[fringe ridge]

I've not looked at all the new PC hardware recently because theres not much worth it for me if I can't get the GPUs I want for reasonable pricings.

the SSe224XT doesn't give me any google results

[knotty eagle]

https://www.amazon.com/ID-COOLING-SE-224-XT-Cooler-Heatpipes-Cooling/dp/B082V7TCSB

[fringe ridge]

Doesn't look to be available here in canada

[knotty eagle]

Yeah

Af34 maybe but its green

Ran into that this morning.

[topaz blaze]

My laptop fan has a whistle voice

[shrewd juniper]

Stock cooler lol

[shrewd juniper]

They are quite small so that's most likely just that, but you can try clean the vents with some canned air

[topaz blaze]

I cleaned with vacuum cleaner

[shrewd juniper]

That's not a good idea, vacuum cleaners create a lot of static btw

[magic scarab]

He was recommending a 212 Evo to someone else and we told him about the Vetroo V2

He isn’t asking for a recommendation

[solid barn]

I have no idea what you mean

okay but what about 212 Black Edition 😎

probably still sucks lol

[mystic tiger]

it does, it just looks better

however the black edition i will say uses something that isnt those wires that nearly everyone uses and its fantastic and wish that everyone used them instead of the wires

the corsair a500 pretty much uses the same method for mounting the fans just a lot more chunky

[solid barn]

considering I can get a better cooler for the same price as the 212 Black yeah I can see it's not that great anymore. Least for Me

if I'm spending $64 I'd rather get a cooler worth the price

[surreal agate]

hey, so i have a thermaltake 240mm rgb aio but its not lighting up can someone help?

[shrewd juniper]

did you plug in the rgb header into your motherboard

[shrewd juniper]

im confused what wire?

[surreal agate]

its a prebuilt so guess they didnt?

lol

[low pumice]

Like pwm 4 pin @shrewd juniper

Corsair a500 just let's you slide the fan in iirc

[mystic tiger]

bad image but this, i call it a wire, dont know what theyre actually called or what others call it

not the heatsink the thing holding the fan to it

[shrewd juniper]

the fan mounting bracket?

[low pumice]

Ah

I thought a500 didn't use 4 pin separately

[mystic tiger]

ye, and theyre annoying vs what the 212 black edition and a500 use

[shrewd juniper]

should either be connected to rgb header on mobo or to a rgb hub, connected to mobo

[low pumice]

And tbh the wires are nice for adjustments imo

But can be annoying

[mystic tiger]

but sliding instead of taking them out everytime

[shrewd juniper]

wait what do the 212 black and a500 use instead?

[low pumice]

slide

[mystic tiger]

wait nvm, think its only for the rgb black edition not the black edition

but this

corsair uses something similar but its way more chonky in comparison

[shrewd juniper]

ahh i see

[magic scarab]

Do you know how?

[surreal agate]

Not really, i am not able to locate the header even lol

[magic scarab]

Does the AIO use 3-pin DRGB or something else?

And is there a 3-pin DRGB header on the board?

Actually, for the second one, just take a picture and DM it to me

[surreal agate]

Okay

[sweet tapir]

can anyone here help me with something?

@magic scarab

[magic scarab]

nani

[sweet tapir]

basically i built my new pc, and yesterday it was silent couldnt even hear a thing, today its super loud, downloaded icue and had all fans on quiet and still its pretty loud, so do you know a fix?

[magic scarab]

set fan curve in BIOS

[sweet tapir]

where is it in the bios

which section

[magic scarab]

should be first page

[sweet tapir]

set it to what

[magic scarab]

really depends on which board

idk, auto?

whatever is quietest

[sweet tapir]

b550-f strix

[magic scarab]

yeah should hopefully be on first page

if not, look around or go to search mode

[sweet tapir]

alright ill try

@magic scarab i didnt see any fan curve

even used search

[river orchid]

How can i quiet my watercooling pump? its a molex, it has a control pin but if i try to control the fan curve in my motherboard software it just stays at the super high speed

[narrow quartz]

any expert with cpu liquid coolers? T.T im looking for the name of a cooler

[low pumice]

@narrow quartz I don't think an expert like that exists but I can try and help

[knotty sparrow]

What info do you have on the cooler you're looking for? A picture?

[vivid citrus]

If you want a good liquid cooler get an NZXT or corsair unit. @narrow quartz . If you see TT that is the thermaltake logo

[tired fog]

nzxt and corsair are both big price 😳

get like an ek-aio or galahad tbh

liquid freezer ii too ugly

[topaz blaze]

ek aio

much quieter

[snow garnet]

Wanting to go with a Corsair H150i Elite Capellix 360mm AIO, thoughts?

[low pumice]

Freezer ii, galahad, ek-aio are all alternatives

Generally cheaper (other than galahad) for better performance

[knotty sparrow]

Any one of those will get the job done for sure

[snow garnet]

Word.

[narrow quartz]

hey guys

is https://www.newegg.com/cooler-master-liquid-cooling-system-masterliquid-ml280-mirror/p/N82E16835103312?Description=liquid cooler 280&cm_re=liquid_cooler 280-_-35-103-312-_-Product good for a 5600x?

[knotty sparrow]

More than enough for a 5600X. A 240 would be plenty, or save money and get a decent air cooler like se 224 or gammaxx 400

[narrow quartz]

this one is on sale right now

its only for 90 dolars

it should be worth it right?

[knotty sparrow]

If you like the look and it fits your case, go for it. I have the 240 model on my 5800X overclocked, it'll get the job done.

[narrow quartz]

oh alright

how much did yours cost

i mean, what is the difference between a 240 and 280?

[knotty sparrow]

Different fan sizes, larger radiator on the 280. Bigger size liquid cooler usually means it runs colder.

The one I have is $80 right now

Or $85 for the V2 with better fans

Oh another difference I just noticed, the fans on the 240 are all RGB fans but the 280 isn't

[narrow quartz]

the one I sent is ARGB

[knotty sparrow]

Yeah the PUMP is but the fans aren't

[narrow quartz]

Oh i dont really mind that

I just want a good performance and worth price you know what i mean

90 dolars for a 280 doesnt seem bad

[knotty sparrow]

With a 65 Watt processor like yours I wouldn't expect temps to ever hit 60 C with a 240, less with a 280, even when stress testing.

[narrow quartz]

so less heat with 280 right?

sorry if i sound dumb, im not really good at this haha

[knotty sparrow]

Yes it should stay lower overall with a 280 and take longer to get to max temp

[narrow quartz]

Ok, I guess 280 is good

i just bought it

thanks for the help

[sweet tapir]

@low pumice

can you help

me

[low pumice]

Hi

@sweet tapir what do you need

[sweet tapir]

the fans basically 2 days ago when the pc got built they were very quiet, like actually there wasnt a single sound, today they are very loud, feels like an airplane engine, downloaded icue and all of them are on QUIET mode but still its the same sound, 2 days ago there wasnt even a sound

[low pumice]

Well, I assume you checked it was hitting something, are the fans spinning physically faster than usual?

[sweet tapir]

wdym hitting something? and idk if they are faster than usual this is my first pc with these fans

[low pumice]

Fans hitting things usually makes sound, so just make sure there's no obstructions in any way

[sweet tapir]

there isnt

[low pumice]

Well, next thing to try, what motherboard is it? Motherboard branded software usually lets you manually control fan speeds

[sweet tapir]

i have been having a couple of problems with this new pc, like i said the fans, and in that asus aura thingy, i think it was armory crate, it wouldnt detect any of the rams or motherboard, 2 days ago only one of the ram's lit up, but the other didnt and the day after it was fine and both of them were lit up.

[sweet tapir]

Asus B550-F

[low pumice]

Yea armory crate should let you change fan speeds, but armory crate (as is all mobo software) is also kind of notorious for being buggy and weird

[sweet tapir]

yeah, i also downloaded AI SUITE 3, and that didnt help with the fans at all

[low pumice]

Ick

Welp, try finding fan curves in bios and manually setting fan speed there and see how the sound goes, and maybe take off the side panel and physically inspect the fans for any changes

[sweet tapir]

ill take of the side panel and see if thats why the fans make alot of noise, because when i said it was silent the side panel wasnt on

[knotty sparrow]

A wire might have gotten pushed into the fan blades when you put the panel on

[low pumice]

I'll be off for now, I'm guessing it's not the fans doing things, probably some other factors.

Also remember to isolate which fan is making the noise, maybe the GPU fans are making the noise now

[sweet tapir]

well same thing when i removed the side panel

same sound

so i dont think the side panel is the problem

[low pumice]

Like look at the fans and see if there's anything on the fans or anything like that which could be causing the noise

[sweet tapir]

nope no wire is touching the fans

i can send you a pic of the pc if you want

if thats easier

so yeah @low pumice @knotty sparrow, definitely not the greatest cable management from the front but its alright i guess

oh you gone offline

@knotty eagle can you help?

or anyone else

[woeful haven]

nice AIO

[topaz blaze]

your cable management is fine

You're sure it isn't the GPU fans or the PCIe hitting the fans?

[woeful haven]

ya

[twin urchin]

The sounds is just high speed fans, or is it s buzzing or grinding sound?

[quartz oxide]

Hyper 212 Evo still the budget cpu cooler of choice?

[knotty eagle]

Nope

ID Cooling SSE 224 XT or Gammax 400

Better cooling, less money

[quartz oxide]

Alright

Between the two is it up to availablity/aesthetic?

[knotty eagle]

Yep, there are multiple versions of each with different colors, etc

[quartz oxide]

Thx

[ancient gale]

smegsy

[sweet tapir]

yes im sure its not

[sweet tapir]

thank you

[sweet tapir]

basically its using its full power, its on like 1300-1400 even on quiet mode, its basically on Extreme mode even tho i have it on quiet mode

[twin urchin]

What is CPU temperature?

[sweet tapir]

on ICUE?

honestly i feel like this whole problem has to do with the motherboard sensors

could be wrong

what do you think of this problem? @topaz blaze

@low pumice

you there?

[low pumice]

Hi there

@sweet tapir any luck with editing bios fan curve?

[sweet tapir]

there isnt bios fan curve

basically ima tell you my fan setup

[low pumice]

Wat

There should be a fan curve in bios

[unique lily]

Vokon#9467 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[sweet tapir]

how is that duplicate

what

alright then

rad fans are connected to motherboard

the 6 other fans are connected to commander pro

thats for power

for the lighting core the rad fans are connected to it and then connected to motherboard

[knotty eagle]

BIOS has fan curve guaranteed

[sweet tapir]

i wrote it in search and i couldnt find it

[knotty eagle]

Just search fan

not fan curve

[sweet tapir]

ok and then

[knotty eagle]

Might be Q fan or called something else

[sweet tapir]

can you tell me its exact name

[low pumice]

Asus manual not helpful

[sweet tapir]

you guys think that this problem is because of fan curve in bios and not icue?

because it is icue's problem

[low pumice]

Well, software is always iffy

[sweet tapir]

basically when i download icue fans turn to 1300-1400 RPM even on quiet mode, when i delete icue its normal

i think its a problem with the sensors

[low pumice]

Bios is basically the only definite answer for changing fan speed

[topaz blaze]

1400 is relativity high

[low pumice]

Ehh

[sweet tapir]

its the highest for those fans, so its on its highest speed

[low pumice]

Depends on the fan

[topaz blaze]

you dont need that much rpm with the number of fans you have

as you know

[low pumice]

Wait why is 1400rpm max on the fans

[knotty eagle]

Asus is Q fan

[sweet tapir]

yeah but its not my doing

[topaz blaze]

is the fan hub connected via usb?

[knotty eagle]

Are you running 3 pin fans?

Instead of 4 pin?

[sweet tapir]

idk

[low pumice]

Should be ll120s

And h150i

[sweet tapir]

those are the fans i got

[low pumice]

Commander pro should be 4 pin too

[knotty eagle]

No PWM control

[low pumice]

Oh sp120s I thought they were ll120s lel

[knotty eagle]

That's why

[sweet tapir]

what does that mean?

no PWM

[topaz blaze]

pwm is used for precise fan control but fans need to have 4 pin connectors

[low pumice]

Still controllable with dc control, bios fan curve can still do it

[knotty eagle]

NO fan speed control unless hooked to motherboard and fan controller set to DC mode

I don't think the hub will do DC fan control

[topaz blaze]

some mobos have DC fan control

which is very nice

[low pumice]

I mean, I think you should be able to force the hub to do so if the 4 pin that connects the hub to the motherboard it set to dc mode

[sweet tapir]

basically what i did is i deleted icue, and downloaded something called corsair link 4 the controlling of the fans is right, like when i press quite it turns to quiet etc. but problems are the temperature isnt right, and cant control RGB

[low pumice]

Either way, bios fan curve, set everything to dc mode, and set something like 40% fan speed for everything for now

[knotty eagle]

Yeah, the Corsair software uses PWM control

NOt sure you can do DC control with it

[sweet tapir]

wait so your saying that the problem isnt the software?

its the fans itself

[low pumice]

No

It's the software

Not being capable of using dc control

But bios is capable of doing so

[sweet tapir]

yeah but if i use LL's or QL's it would be completely fine?

or would it be the same thing?

[low pumice]

I'm not familiar with Corsair software, but from what vintage said, probably

[knotty eagle]

I know the motherboard software can do DC control

AI Suite for ASUS

I don't think Corsair can

[sweet tapir]

ik about AI Suite but like

i need RGB

and i bought those fans specifically for that

right now because i have ICUE Deleted all the fans are on white

[knotty eagle]

At the very least set the fan headers in BIOS to DC mode

Instead of PWM

[low pumice]

Yea

[knotty eagle]

Q-FAN

On ASUS

[sweet tapir]

ok let me try to do that

[low pumice]

Set the fan speeds in bios, and you can still use iCue for the rgb, just not for fan speeds

[topaz blaze]

iCUE only measures coolant temperature in the main area

[sweet tapir]

wdym

[sweet tapir]

i just went to bios and changed the Q-Fans to DC mode

[knotty eagle]

See if you can control them now

[sweet tapir]

through icue?

[knotty eagle]

Worth a shot

[sweet tapir]

alright

[knotty eagle]

IDK to be honest

[sweet tapir]

ill try it, i wont lose anything if i did

[low pumice]

You should be able to control them in bios for sure

[knotty eagle]

AI Suite as well

[sweet tapir]

but the fans arent connected directly to the motherboard

so that would work

[knotty eagle]

There has to be some connection to the controller

[sweet tapir]

but i dont want to do that 😦 man i wish i knew all those things before i bought those fans

[low pumice]

Wdym

You can just set the fan curve and never touch it again

Bios should be prioritized over any software, so it should override whatever iCue is trying to do with your fans

[sweet tapir]

nope once i downloaded ICUE its back to 1400 RPM

[sweet tapir]

i set a fan curve in ICUE and it didnt work i didnt say that it didnt, but when i put the computer on a stress test the fans RPM didnt go any higher.

[knotty eagle]

Set iCUE to DC mode as well

I'm on the Corsair Forums now and it's apparently an option

[sweet tapir]

how do you do that

[low pumice]

Bios fan curve is more effective than iCue, and fan rpms won't go higher if things don't heat up too much :p

Oh well

[topaz blaze]

The liquid in the AIO

[knotty eagle]

IDK I don't have the software lol. I'm just reading

[topaz blaze]

Normal temp for it will be 25-35c

for a 130W or lower TDP CPU

[topaz blaze]

Fan curves?

cringe

[knotty eagle]

However, in iCUE go to the Commander Pro settings and change the fan type from Auto to 3 pin

[topaz blaze]

static ftw

[knotty eagle]

Or DC

[sweet tapir]

honestly to be 100% honest with you i want everything to be automatic, like i dont want to have to make my own fan curve, i want to either use 1 of the 3 modes Quiet, Balanced, Extreme. thats it. i dont want to change anything other than that.

[knotty eagle]

This is what I found on the forums: However, in iCUE go to the Commander Pro settings and change the fan type from Auto to 3 pin

[topaz blaze]

Just set fan speed to static 1200-1800RPM

[knotty eagle]

Or DC mode

[low pumice]

Ick, do what vintage says then

[topaz blaze]

choose whatever you like in terms of how loud

[sweet tapir]

i want it to be quiet, id say from 700-900 is ok

[topaz blaze]

Ehhh

Whats the prime95 temp at 900RPM?

[sweet tapir]

alright 1 min ima try and find it

[topaz blaze]

Also, run the pump at max speed

[low pumice]

I'm lazy and I set my fan curve to like 40% at 40c, 60% 80c, 100% 90c lel

[sweet tapir]

i think its already on that

[sweet tapir]

i dont want to set the fancurve to anything at all

[low pumice]

Do what vintage says about settings in iCue

[sweet tapir]

ok so you said change thet commander pro settings to 3 pin?

@knotty eagle so i set them to 3 pin and nothing changed

that is weird right? @topaz blaze

[sweet tapir]

i did that and nothing unfortunately 😦

[low pumice]

Software weird :(

@topaz blaze you use iCue?

[sweet tapir]

but if i got ll120's would the problem be fixed?

[topaz blaze]

Yeah

[topaz blaze]

No

[sweet tapir]

why no

[topaz blaze]

Not gonna be entirely accurate

bearings won't be 100% perfect about speed

etc

for how little it varies thats normal

[low pumice]

iCue is weird, I have no idea

[topaz blaze]

They aren't gonna all run identical 1400RPM lol

[low pumice]

I'm going to leave it with Mando to fix iCue settings

@topaz blaze 1400rpm is max rpm on the fans, they're trying to apply the quiet setting

[topaz blaze]

Hmm

lemme install it rq

[sweet tapir]

thats not what i meant, i meant that they are on quiet mode and they are on 1300-1400 rpm

[topaz blaze]

Yeah

Try making a custom profile

for the performance

[sweet tapir]

i dont want to do that tho

i just want to have the 3 main profiles

[topaz blaze]

You can set it to a static RPM

[sweet tapir]

quiet, balanced, extreme

[topaz blaze]

like copy the first 3

[sweet tapir]

how

[topaz blaze]

Make a custom profile

somewhere on the right side there will be 3 options you can set for that custom profile

Quiet, Balanced, and Extreme

[sweet tapir]

honestly i dont really want to make a custom profile

but you are 100% sure that if i bought LL's there would be no difference? @topaz blaze because the SP's arent PWM, but the LL's are

[topaz blaze]

Performance wise they should be the same

[topaz blaze]

Its the exact same thing as quiet balanced and extreme

[sweet tapir]

im not talking about the peformance, im saying that if i was to buy them, would have these problems?

[topaz blaze]

Pretty sure its just a software bug

If the SPs are the problem LLs would likely fix it

[sweet tapir]

i know, my problem with it is, if im in a game or something, a game that takes alot of power, the fans wont detect that the pc is hot and it wont spin, and i know that because put the pc through a stress test

[sweet tapir]

yeah but i dont think its a problem to everyone in the world with the sp120's tho

[topaz blaze]

Yeah its software bug

prob

[sweet tapir]

yeah but i think vintage said that, the software doesnt use DC mode or something idk, and that it only uses PWM, and the SP120's are not PWM

unsure tho

[topaz blaze]

Again, Try making a custom profile

i can't help you if you're not gonna try my solutions lol

[sweet tapir]

how do i set it to be the exact same thing as Quiet mode

[topaz blaze]

Its at the bottom right of icure

icue

Actually they might of changed

lemme check

oop they did

[sweet tapir]

yeah i couldnt find it

[topaz blaze]

Installing rn

i'll check

ugh

i have to restart

@sweet tapir

See the 4 at the bottom right?

Custom, Quiet, Balanced And Extreme

[sweet tapir]

alright

ima try it

[tropic vortex]

Can someone tell me best fan configuration with 280mm aio configuration for lian li o11 dynamic

[magic scarab]

Put the AIO on the top in exhaust

[tropic vortex]

What about the bottom of case? Intake?

[magic scarab]

Worst place

By far

[tropic vortex]

I mean I bought aio

And 6 120mm fans

[knotty eagle]

TOp or side exhaust

[magic scarab]

Top exhaust would be best

Side intake with tubes on top was better, I thought?

[tropic vortex]

Side where u see my floor

Right side is top of case

[knotty eagle]

Side intake or top exhaust

[tropic vortex]

Left side is bottom

[knotty eagle]

Don't put it on the bottom

Pump needs to be below the top of the rad

[tropic vortex]

Aio on top of case is exhaust

[knotty eagle]

Yes

[tropic vortex]

So on the bottom is intake

?

[knotty eagle]

Sure

[tropic vortex]

What about the side

Exhaust or intake?

[knotty eagle]

Probably only need one set of intakes. Lian Li case like that makes airflow difficult

Keep the bottom and sides on low RPM and top exhaust

[tropic vortex]

Kk ty

[knotty eagle]

👍

[topaz blaze]

Bottom intake

middle and top exhaust

Put the AIO on the top

[tropic vortex]

Anyone know what eight rubber pieces are

If I only need for four corners which one do I use the circle ones or the tiny one?

[ancient gale]

should i get an AIO for an R5 3600?

[tired fog]

nah, you don't need an aio or some fancy cooler to cool a 3600

[tired fog]

those are to mount the fans

[magic scarab]

3600 is cold

[knotty eagle]

Use da big ones unless using tiny screws

[ancient gale]

ok thx

[crisp folio]

.

[tropic vortex]

is the silent wings suppose to be silent?? or its suppose to sound loud ?

or the loud sound probably from NZXT Z73?

[shrewd juniper]

be quiet is usually pretty quiet but i say quieter

[tropic vortex]

i think cause my fans are set to auto

occasionally it ramps up speed for a little and then slows down

and ramps up again later

Silent Wings 3 2200 RPM PWM

[shrewd juniper]

If you go into bios you can set the fan curve manually probs make more quiet

[tropic vortex]

is recommended that i leave it on auto or its ok to go ahead and adjust it to lower rpm?

[shrewd juniper]

You can adjust to lower rpm

[worldly ingot]

Can I put this like this ???

I really need help

Anyone please

[low pumice]

Yes, why not

[topaz blaze]

Yeah but flip the fans around cause like that it’ll be sucking cool air from the top unless you’re gonna exhaust hot air through the front which is strange

[topaz blaze]

@low pumice Do you have some kind of comparison for fan bearings?

ie maglev dualball etc

[topaz blaze]

Anyone bought the Deepcool Gammaxx GT ? Is the included thermal paste good enough? Or should I spend some change on other recommended brand?

[knotty sparrow]

Stock paste is fine, better stuff makes maybe 2 degree difference

[low pumice]

Sadly no

[twilit abyss]

gammax gt is very pog, not sure what the temps would be if i'd used diff paste but the stock stuff works fine

best looking aircooler hands down

[fallen sky]

so I have recently been looking into upgrading my pc, and in doing so I realized that I probably want to change out my cooling. I have 2 options;

1. Run a water cooling loop

2. Use some quiet ass fans

I am hesitant to try water cooling because of how much of a hassle it is. I know it is better but there is so much to manage and what not its frightening to even try. I dont really want to have to use fans just because of the inferior cooling and noise but it just seems easier. What do you guys recommend?

[magic scarab]

What CPU do you have

And what case

And what kinda upgrade budget

[fallen sky]

Currently, I have a Ryzen 3100x I believe and my case is a uhhh lemme check

[magic scarab]

3100x?

one sec

[fallen sky]

My upgrade budget is 700 or so USD, I just plan to get a better gpu more ram and cooling obviously

[fallen sky]

that is a guess

[magic scarab]

3100x doesnt exist

[fallen sky]

wouldnt be surprised

lemme boot it up and check?

[magic scarab]

check task manager to see what you actually have please

[fallen sky]

alr

[magic scarab]

even better

full specs?

[fallen sky]

wdym

[magic scarab]

what do you all have

GPU, RAM, storage

cooling

etc

and what kinda games do you play?

[fallen sky]

I have a NVIDIA GTX 1060 3gb, 8gb duel channel memory, 1tb SSD

[fallen sky]

valorant, satisfactory occasionally but mainly valorant

[magic scarab]

are you content with your current performance in Satisfactory?

[fallen sky]

more than happy

but the temps get very high

[magic scarab]

great

that makes sense

late game satisfactory is incredibly CPU intensive

[fallen sky]

tell me about it 😅

anyways, go on

[magic scarab]

right so

I would have said get a better CPU but you dont really play any games that dont need any more than a cooling upgrade (as you deduced)

so possibly a better GPU then

[fallen sky]

thats what I was thinking but beyond that im lost

finding cards now is practically impossible

let alone a good one

[magic scarab]

I recommend getting the following with your budget: RTX 3060Ti ($400~), 32gb memory ($150-200), NH-D15 or Dark Rock Pro 4 ($90~)

if you want to fill out your budget

eventually I would also get a CPU upgrade and possibly a motherboard upgrade if yours isnt that great currently

or eventually

[fallen sky]

is an evga 600BQ enough for all that?

[magic scarab]

...yes, but thats not a great PSU

no need to upgrade right now I dont think but uh

well

I would go to #cases-psu-and-cooling and see about that

[fallen sky]

will do

one last thing

[magic scarab]

mhmm?

[fallen sky]

where exactly do you recommend I look for a 3060, I cant find one in stock anywhere and the ones I do find are hella sketch

[magic scarab]

3060Ti specifically

not 3060

the Newegg Shuffle helps

Best Buy drops them every now and again

other than that

cant really say for anything else

[fallen sky]

alr then

tysm!

[magic scarab]

np

[twin urchin]

@fallen sky you don't need $100 CPU coolers for a ryzen 3100. look at a bunch of sub-$50 options like Scythe Mugen5, Bequiet Shadow rock 3, Hyper212, DeepCool Gammaxx 400 (or some similar name/number)

and there are others

[shrewd juniper]

Hyper 212 bad, id cooling se 224xt and vetroo v5 better and cheaper

And for a 3100 stock cooler is perfectly fine

[magic scarab]

And Gammax 400, like he said

[shrewd juniper]

^

[low pumice]

gammaxx ftw

[shrewd juniper]

Great price but looks are meh i prefer se 224 for bit more

[magic scarab]

Ditto

[low pumice]

that's why gammaxx is great

there's so many of them

gammax gt

gammaxx bk

gt argb

[magic scarab]

I thought Gammax 400 was the only good one?

[low pumice]

gte

@magic scarab they're basically the same thing with a different fan

[magic scarab]

Got it

[shrewd juniper]

All basically same

[low pumice]

400/gt/gte/bk

[shrewd juniper]

Woops mr11 beat me to it

[low pumice]

some has rgb

some has argb

lol

[shrewd juniper]

Some has just r and some has just b as well xd

[topaz blaze]

I just got a gammaxx gt argb 🙂

Coming in Friday

Should I use the included Thermal Paste or buy a different brand?

[knotty sparrow]

Included is usually fine. The best stuff only makes a few degrees difference.

[knotty eagle]

Yeah, unless you have something laying around, included is fine

[topaz blaze]

Tenchu 🥲

[shrewd thorn]

Does anyone know what the difference between Cooler Master ML120L vs. LC120E is?

Other than the CPU block / pump looks different

There's a deal on the LC120E on Amazon right now, but just want to make sure it's actually a good deal: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07CRG8X69

[knotty sparrow]

I would never consider using a 120mm AIO, since there's $25 air coolers that cool better than a 240

[shrewd thorn]

I have an ITX build and a Hyper 212, but the fan is kind of touching the RAM right now - that's why I want to go 120mm AIO

[knotty sparrow]

Fair enough

[shrewd thorn]

Lian Li TU150 case, so 120mm is the only option

lol

Plus Ryzen 3600 seems to run much hotter than my 8600k

Idling at about 49C

[knotty sparrow]

The 8600k was in the same case?

[shrewd thorn]

No, but it's on a 120mm AIO

It idles at like 30C. Probably better airflow, but I've also read that the 3600 runs kind of hot in general

Actually, 42C idle right now - but main reason is to stop the RAM from touching :3

[knotty sparrow]

With good airflow you can use the stock cooler for the 3600, but needing more room is a good enough reason

[shrewd thorn]

So, any idea on the differences between those models? Seems pretty comparable to me. Only weird thing is that I can't find LC120E on Cooler Master's site

[knotty sparrow]

I'm checking into it

[shrewd thorn]

Thank you!

[knotty sparrow]

Looks like no one reputable ever bothers reviewing 120mm coolers... still looking

Here's what I've gathered from various info, some of it from the 240 versions: they both have problems. Pumps and fans on the ML original series (non-V2) have high failure rates. V2 mostly fixed that, mostly. The LC has the same pump as the V2 far as I can tell. The fan on the LC is slightly louder but also moves a little more air. The pump on the LC is shorter. The radiator on the LC is the same size as the ML V2, 2mm taller than the original.

[shrewd thorn]

Wow, thanks for digging all that up - I couldn't find all that info

I actually have the ML120L (non-V2), the pump's been okay for 3 years so far - it does whine a bit but seems to still be pumping through

[neat depot]

Does anyone know an exact replacement for an Asetek 510LC ?

my 9 year old one failed on my intel i7

[knotty sparrow]

That's an old model so all the ones that I see are used or out of stock. Does it really need to be that one exactly? Any cooler that supports your socket should work.

[neat depot]

I just did not want to remove the motherboard to replace it.

[elfin current]

Whats the best singular case fan on the market?

I need a rear fan for my phanteks p500a

[low pumice]

Well, it's between 3 fans
Value in mind, Arctic p12
No compromise, NF-A12X25
If in stock anywhere, Nidec gentle typhoon pwm

[elfin current]

What makes the fans so great?

[low pumice]

Noise normalized performance is godly on all of them

Noctua's rated MTBF is more than a decade of constant operation, like 14 years lol

[elfin current]

I hears noctua is a great brand

[low pumice]

Yea, they're great, possibly the best, but there's always more out there to learn about

[elfin current]

Noctua has a black fan also, so I may go that route

[low pumice]

Well, nf-a12x25 is especially good

More so than the other fans, I think they'll have a chromax version of nf-a12x25 soon tho

[elfin current]

Ty :)

What are some other cooling ideas. I have a aio system and the front fans

[low pumice]

Ah they pushed them back

Ideas..?

As in other fan choices..?

[shrewd juniper]

The a12x25 is slightly better than the arctic p12 but the p12 like a fifth of price

[shrewd juniper]

If you mean orientations for fans, as many in front as possible, back and top of case

And if it's something like an o11 bottom fans if you want

[tired fog]

yee, and make the front fans a bit faster than the exhaust fans

[magic scarab]

a12x25 is one of the best fans you can get lmao

Oh wait you talking about coolers

Not fans

Nvm

[shrewd juniper]

Ik lol, i was talking about fans just i would get the p12 cuz almost as good as 12x25 and a lot cheaper

[tired fog]

the cool thing about the 12x25's is that they're generally quieter under the same speeds as other fans

if they don't care about noise then they can easily be satisfied with some p12's

[magic scarab]

Mhmm

[shrewd juniper]

i mean pretty close at everywhere but 1500 and actually beets the 12x25s at 1750 althought doesnt go up to 2000rpm

[elfin current]

Apologies work came along lol.

Just general cooling down of the pc over all. I need a rear fan definitely to pull the hot air out. But I have the 2 fans connected to the radiator for the aio cpu cooler, and then the 3 fans in front.

[shrewd juniper]

np,that sounds good unless you have a bottom intake case too

[elfin current]

There is a shroud area that houses the psu with its own internal fan. There is space under there for hdd but I may be able to fist something down there.

[shrewd juniper]

dont think its worth it then the ones you have should be fine, try make sure the 3 in front are intake and top and back are exhaust

[topaz blaze]

So my case has the ability for 20 120 mm fans and I’m going with coolermaster prismatic fans. What’s a good fan controller for this?

[shrewd juniper]

any hub is fine

as long as its a pwm hub but ive never seen a voltage one

[topaz blaze]

I was looking at this one. @shrewd juniper

[shrewd juniper]

f me thats overpriced af

btw you might want to take that down, amazon mobile shows your adress at the top

[topaz blaze]

Lol whoops

Here’s 1-10

[shrewd juniper]

https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Case-Fan-Hub-Distributor/dp/B0887VG14J/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=fan+hub&qid=1617649351&sr=8-3

yeah thats way better price

[topaz blaze]

Would need two cause 20 fans

How would I hook up 20 fans lol @shrewd juniper

I could do a 1 to 2 off each port couldn’t I

[shrewd juniper]

20, thats gotta be wrong

[topaz blaze]

Lol you think I’m joking I’m not

[shrewd juniper]

link the case

[topaz blaze]

Well I bought the last one I’ll see if they have it up still or not lol

[shrewd juniper]

or even the name

[topaz blaze]

anidees AI Crystal XL PRO RGB Full Tower Tempered Glass XL-ATX/E-ATX/ATX Gaming Case Support 480/360 Radiator, Optical Drive, Includes RGB 120x5 PWM Fans / LED Stripsx2 - AI-XL-PRO-RGB (PC Case ONLY) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081M3RGG8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VCH3ESPH2B4K4E0KF6GM

LOL

[shrewd juniper]

unless you have a cheap mobo, which why would you if you have 20 fans, there should at least be 2 fan headers on the mobo

its a server case XD

[topaz blaze]

Ah ok sweet my mobo was 500 so yea

[shrewd juniper]

500 👀

[topaz blaze]

Most people using it for gaming cause the space for water cooling is nice

[twin urchin]

dumb fan question: if i have 2x 3-pin fans on a splitter, should i be getting RPM readings from the MB header?

[shrewd juniper]

looks like it might come with one

[shrewd juniper]

pwm is 4 pin, so it would be using voltage

[topaz blaze]

Will only work with their fans

[shrewd juniper]

bruh

[topaz blaze]

I tried

[shrewd juniper]

how tf you have a propereitary fan header 💀

[topaz blaze]

I dunno

[twin urchin]

yes, i asked about 3-pin though, not PWM

[topaz blaze]

Maybe the fan header is broken

[shrewd juniper]

the 4th pin is the pwm wire

[twin urchin]

i know

im asking about RPM sensing

[shrewd juniper]

oh sorry misread, yeah you should

[twin urchin]

3-pin is not PWM

[shrewd juniper]

ik i read rpm as pwm by mistake

[twin urchin]

so having 2 fans sending RPM down the same 3rd wire should give me some kind of reading? other than 0?

[shrewd juniper]

im not sure what you mean can you reword it?

you mean down the splitter?

yeah it should but if they work i mean do you really need rpm readings?

[twin urchin]

yes. IE: does having 2 fans reporting different RPMs on the same wire affect anything?

[shrewd juniper]

i think i get what you mean, should be fine

[shrewd juniper]

your mobo would see as one fan tho

[twin urchin]

that i would expect

[shrewd juniper]

are you sure its not reading cpu fan and case fan on splitter?

[elfin current]

Again apologies, got stuck with work lol. Should the top be exhaust? I have space for a 3rd top in the back I can make that exhaust with the rear. The two others on top I have now are for the aio cooler but they're sucking cool air in over top the radiator. Unless that's wrong?

[low pumice]

@elfin current top should be the radiator and they should be exhaust.

Hot air goes up

Front should be sucking air in

And rear should be exhaust

[elfin current]

Ok gotta reverse those upper fans

[robust birch]

i need a fan

my pc rn is just a cpu and some ram

[twin urchin]

@shrewd juniper CPU, and two other fans are all on their own headers and are PWM. The 3-pins that are on a splitter are my intake fans, and they are the only ones I don't get an RPM reading from

[shrewd juniper]

yeah ik i am just gueessing

to why it might show up that way but i wouldnt worryu

[magic scarab]

Pepega

I prefer the EK one tbh

ML240 not bad tho

[topaz blaze]

i sold the ml240 for the ek240

the fans were clicking from day one

[low pumice]

Nice

[unique lily]

Kaguraa#8221 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Kaguraa#8221 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[serene tide]

Hi guys, I’ve noticed high temps on my 5600x with stock cooler, so I’m looking into getting an aio. My first choice is the Cooler Master masterliquid ML360L argb v2 also I’ve been considering getting ml240l v2 and lastly MSI MAG Coreliquid 240R or just simply getting a BeQuiet! Dark rock slim or a Noctua. What I’m asking is pretty much “which one would suit better my cpu” and why?

[vivid citrus]

@serene tide yes, the 5600x is notoriously hot on the stock cooler, so I see why you would want an upgrade. As far as AIOs go I would recommend pretty much anything 240 from corsair or NZXT. When it comes to air ( which will probably be cheaper and historically more reliable) I do like the noctua NHd15, normal colors for street cred or chromeax for the vibe. However, the be quiet is also a very good option

[stiff crypt]

not my thoughts

NZXT and Corsair are generally overpriced for what they offer

such as the X63, mediocre performance at a higher price point than others

if wanting to go AIO, just buy an LF2/EK AIO DRGB/Liqmax III/Lian Li Galahad

as far as air coolers go

D15 is not really needed for a 5600x

not to mention it's price

[vivid citrus]

Cheaper than an AIO

[stiff crypt]

not really

it costs like 80-90

[vivid citrus]

most anyway

[stiff crypt]

it's the standard budget for a decent 240mm AIO

such as LF2/EK

which beat the D15

in both acoustics and thermals

[vivid citrus]

Yes, but historically air has been exponentially more reliable

[stiff crypt]

not really

it's just baseless claims

modern AIO's will last just as long

if properly maintained

[vivid citrus]

No, i do salvage work and I can back that up

Well if maintained i guess but even then the fluid doesn’t last forever

[stiff crypt]

which AIO

[vivid citrus]

Mostly aseteks on first gen core i s

[stiff crypt]

it varies heavily from product to product

[vivid citrus]

Not really

[stiff crypt]

I doubt you will see an LF2/EK failing long before you upgrade

[stiff crypt]

yes it does

[vivid citrus]

Most all use the asetek pump

[stiff crypt]

and that won't mean it's bad

Asetek has 7 or so revisions

[vivid citrus]

With very few exemptions

[stiff crypt]

you can't generalise all of them

[vivid citrus]

Still means that there is not as much variation

[stiff crypt]

+only one AIO I mentioned uses an Asetek pump

all others use different partners

also warranty

they have upto 7-10 years warranty

which is plenty

it definitely will last you longer than needed

and outperform the D15 for similar prices

[vivid citrus]

Many noctua products have more than that

[stiff crypt]

won't really matter beyond a point

[vivid citrus]

Anyway, almost forgot the king of AIOs

The arctic liquid freezer

[stiff crypt]

d15 has a lower warranty than I expected

[vivid citrus]

Best aio RN period in my book is the arctic

[stiff crypt]

it makes no sense to get the D15 at this point

lower/similar warranty than decent 240mm AIO's, costs more, does not perform as well in thermal benchmarks

[shrewd juniper]

D15 is like 30 cheaper than arctic 240or 280 iirc

[stiff crypt]

No 240 doesn’t cost 130 USD

D15 is currently 99

And LF2 is in the 80’s range

[shrewd juniper]

Ohh thought the d15 was 90

[distant folio]

Vetroo v5 or id cooling se-224-xt

[tired fog]

either one's fine

it'd go vetroo v5 for the rgb but if you're a simple minded fella, then the 224-xt shall do you well

[distant folio]

Ok thx

Wow the reviews of the vetroo v5 make my pc feel old everyone uses the r5 3600 now I still use the 1600

[smoky valley]

Ok I have a AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor and I have a Aquafusion All-in-one Liquid CPU cooler idk if I should put it on or sell it?

[tired fog]

you're good enough with the 2600's stock cooler, it isn't really a big heat generating chip

i'd only really put an aio on a 2600 if it were for looks

[smoky valley]

So put it on? or sell it and once I do get a big heat generating cpu then get a better aio