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"Yep just slapped on the new head in the engine"
"Yep just slapped in anew SSD"
by aspiring race driver i mean i've never done a track day but i have won an event outright at rallycross, won my class at another rallycross and came 4th overall for a season of said same rallycross xD
you're right though
do people get upset if you mix up stuff in here? just we having a decent chat and i just saw this:
that's awesome but alas, not on the canadian site
Not bad at all, I used to do some amateur rally racing too. I miss my Subaru.
fair play :D. subarus rule at that. i had an 04 accent i did it in, where i put a wing on from an sti and had the wing and mirror caps painted british racing green
eye sore to many, but made me smile every time i drove it
gosh i miss that car, rust ate it
Are uphere fans good? Because they have good reviews and they’re pretty cheap
Which ones specifically? 
No idea under. Most are at 150mm
it's to try go in a spec 04 case there sir
@knotty eagle aim here
Companies have been getting caught buying hundreds of fake Amazon reviews a lot lately. I don't know if this is one of those cases, but I don't see any reviews from anyone I'd call trustworthy.
these mics are interesting. so there are different packages etc available looking elsewhere. great reviews overall, but then some aren't as impressed by it. i don't know enough about mics to get into it. i just saw good reviews, power supply, stand, cheap price... how bad could it be xD. I sometimes stream and did read that higher quality mic would be beneficial. but hey i'm just pipe dreaming at this point. my stream is busy if i have 2 people xD
I don't see anything that says their fans are bad at least, so might be worth a shot
I'm not really a microphone aficionado myself, can't really give opinions on those so much but the #peripherals-and-displays channel is full of knowledgeable people.
sorry i got offtopic here. saw the deals channel in the discord. kind of needs to have a side for the canadians too as that was like OOO YAY TAKE MY MONEY then oh... crap.
And the model i have btw:
at least, looks damn similar
or not
it deleted the link too
damn
i have to go make some food anyway, nice chatting fal and ty 🙂
Just get an anidees case and never worry about mobo and fan compatibility
Got an eatx mobo for the ryzen 5950 whenever I can get one. And you can put like 20 120 mm fans in it
Yep you too, later
Does a Deepcool Gammaxx 400 EX come with paste pre-applied or nah?
No but it should come with some for you to apply, even if it is lower grade stuff
Owh great
Should i use push or pull for the back case fan?
Usually you want to push from the front and pull from the back
Rare exceptions are made depending on where your PC is located in your room
Its on my desk so i guess pull?
you want the fan to blow out the back
ok thanks
Hey, thank you! I’ll keep an eye out for stock. Priced awesome in US at $25. In Canada for some reason it’s $100 CAD. I suspect a supply problem. Will keep a look out :).
Any in here used a Thermaltake Core P5 with a Noctua NH-D15, and 51mm tall Ram? By the Noctua compatibility site, I need an extra 3mm so have put washers on the shiny standoffs to push the acrylic out that 3mm. Wondering if anyone else had paired these two up.
And yes I feel guilty about no wc for it but I didn’t feel confident going that way and didn’t do my homework on the Noctua either. Just knew it was the best air cooler on the market for performance.
Ah you should’ve told me it’s cad
Then I would suggest something like a pure rock slim
It’s cheap and it fits what your looking for
Which CPU though?
Since pure rock slim isn’t a hefty cooler and may have trouble with some chips
Thanks Decks. It’s an AMD FX-4100. I’m looking for something cheap (for instance a hyper 212 is under 40 cad right now) but worthwhile in terms that I can try OC it a bit. Not looking for record breaking numbers but a happy compromise between cheap and worthwhile. A Noctua ch9 black I think it was looked great, but at $90 it’s pushing it a bit.
@stiff crypt
I do wonder if getting a stock wraith cooler would fit and be worthwhile? They’re cheap on the used market, rgb too.
keeps my 3800x very not toasty under load
Yea it can handle a 4100, Hyper 212 may have been a choice but 10 years ago
It’s just outdated
Better cooler exist for similar pricing
Also it uses a terrible sleeve bearing fan
The hyper won’t fit sadly anyway. 9mm too big 😦
¯_(ツ)_/¯
oh well
it is ready to take on 2 fans
prob change fans too if i'm gonna upgrade to a hotter cpu
equip your Hyper 212 with 2 120mm fans
Sometimes when it comes to finding the best CPU cooler, you need to look beyond just raw cooler performance and instead find something that's a bit more unique. That's where the Iceberg IceSleet X7 Dual comes in and while it has a bizarre name and pretty high price, it might be the right combination of cooling and looks that could be right for ...
funky looking air cooler
cools decent, a little pricey but I like that people are at least trying to make interesting looking air coolers
aah I love that guy
What CPU do you have?
@topaz blaze NH-U12s, while a good cooler, is not worth it for the price, at that price range, I'd like to point you towards something like a 60usd Fuma 2 or Ninja 5
just superglue a 10 pound block onto the cpu
@topaz blaze look at LTT trying to make their sketchy heatsinks what, 3 times now?
copper of course
i could probs make a decent cpu cooler
idk how to get the fluid inside the heatpipes though
definitely equal to or less than 212 perf tho
lol
Are cooler master sickleflow fans good?
What If let's say I don't want a Fuma 2 or ninja 5
Aw, down the list we go then, SE-224-xt and the Vetroo V5 next
It's barely better than a hyper 212
How many degrees
Well for 100 I'd just get the d15
nah, U12a has better clearances, smaller, and is more symmetrical
Also has a better fan, nf-a12x25 is great
Side note, Noctua is gonna release a successor to D15 slated for Q4 2021, and develop a next gen 140mm fan, prob a 140mm equivalent to nf-a12x25
The brown would kinda ruin my aesthetic
Ig I'll wait for it
@barren hamlet Here's their roadmap btw
A12x25 isnt a good case fan right?
what
nf-a12x25 is literally the best performing fan for noised normalized performance on the market
Like it's just good for CPU coolers and rads
What about the nf-a14 and nf-f12
no no no, the point was show the difference between Pressure optimised vs Good all-around vs Airflow optimized
I was thinking abou getting 2 of the a14 and 1 f12
My case fits 2 140mm at the top 1 120mm at the back
a14 and f12 is fine
also keep in mind Arctic P12/P14 fans are options if Noctua fans are oos or ridiculously priced, since that was the case when I last checked
I mean how big is the dif between p12 and p14 vs the noctua ones
P12/P14 are more pressure focused, but they're fairly close (Closer than most other average fans, like Corsair ml120 for example) in general to Noctua counterparts
I mean I was planning to get these case fans for Christmas so I have a little more than normal to spend
No lol
CPU cooler also not gonna be for a little while
Nf-s12b weird looking
Is it bad that I just realized this whole time my exhaust fan was set to intake
On a xeon 1620v2 and a r9 fury
Lol im an idiot
Lucky everything is watercooled
@barren hamlet @low pumice I'd go Gentle Typhoon AP151s over Noctua cuz better bearing for both lifespan and service (reoiling)
same noise normalized perf
ngl I was going to say to get GTs after p12/p14 but I still like Noctua.
What dat
GN
@fossil orchid Yes, that's GN, but they put more of their content on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/user/GamersNexus
So im trying to get a cpu liquid cooler but i dont know if it would fit into my case this is what im trying to get https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B082DYR131/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 and this is my MATX case https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B087CDVBZD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 can some one please help me
What CPU do you have?
Ryzen 5 2600
Alright
Since i only have 1 fan in my pc, whats some good fans i should have in my pc im thinking getting 3
If you want RGB sure
https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-BioniX-P120-RGB-Pressure-Optimised/dp/B08FBG88LL/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1 this one only brings 1 correct?
Well for the price on this one and how many it brings is it good https://www.newegg.com/coolmoon-f-yh-6pcs-case-fan/p/1YF-00XW-00009?
@covert apex
50 for 6 fans no no 50 for 1 fan
smh
its fine for lower end components
exaclty like, so in that case my gpu/cpu is fine at 85c ok sure
They made them not move air well because focus on looks only. SHills gonna shill
lemme guess: NZXT discord server
no im not in it lel
but he has a 510
disgusting
yeah he just said "i care more about looks than temps" and "no gamer cares about temps"
hehe
the 1% are people like him
yeah
I don't understand why anyone would ever place looks over performance
bc they stupid
Lmao VR minecraft be spiking my temps to 90C when it launches
(Only happened once but like... wtf ViveCraft)
(Not even 40 NPCS in Boneworks can get within 20C of that)
Hello everyone, lately ive noticed that my computer especially run games very slow
especially look at task manageer, much lower speed than supposed to
stupidest solution in the world, work amazing
i opened up computer, found tons of dust, the fans were clogged
amazing how well a simple cleaning worked
riight? yeah air works WONDERS
Yes
chonky boi, 6 pipes
someday I will do an all be quiet build, their products speak to me
Arctic Freezer 7x for $27?
hey i was going to get some artic p12 case fans, but they dont deliver to where i live so, would the NF-P12 redux-1700 PWM be good as well?
okay thanks just wasnt sure because the redux line doesnt have much coverage and dont want to pay for a12x25s
Thanks, perf
they look nicer than the a12x25s anyway lul
was also thinking of getting an id cooling se 224 and some reviews say the thermal paste it comes with might as well be play dough, is it that bad and should i buy some thermal paste along side it/switch cooler or should i be okay
The included paste for just about any cooler is pretty low quality
the difference paste makes isn't monumental, but if you want peace of mind about it good thermal compound is cheap
3.5g tube of arctic silver 5 for 5 bucks will last you several cooler swaps
is it really that bad tho?
hmm okay thanks
my cpu is at 170 degrees should I be worried
definitely
ya i am running blender i stopped it
It's not bad per se, but better stuff exists and is cheap. It won't make more than a couple degrees difference.
fahrenheit or celsius?
fahrenheit
we use celsius here
oh
Computers in general use C
in celsius it's 60
ohh dont really care about like 1 or 2 degrees really, ive been rocking a stock spire since now
thats grand
60 C is perfect
ok thanks
IMO it's worth the $5 for better paste, but the included stuff is still usable
okay thanks for the help :)
oh bruh lmao
lol
Can aio pumps be loud due to being in the cpu header in the mobo
Pumps work best in the pump header. The noise is from the pump changing speed and the pressure changing, which doesn't happen on a pump header configured correctly.
A workaround would be to set whatever header the pump is in to run at or near full speed constantly.
yeah my board doesnt have a pump header rip ahah
Put the radiator fans into the CPU header and put the pump on a fan header, then set the fan header to 100% in BIOS
hmm good idea will that reduce noise
Yes it should help keep the pressure more constant so less noise from gurgling and stuff like that
sweet
I'm looking for rgb fans to use with custom water loop radiators in o11 dynamic xl case, any suggestions?
Budget?
What's a better brand for Fans: cooler master, lian li, corsair, or Thermaltake
mmmmm

I see... any suggestions?
Every brand has good and bad fans
Well...
Corsair-expensive but nice
Cooler master- good price to preformancew
Li and li-???
Thermaltake-same as cooler master
you want rgb?
Yes rgb lol
good rbg
Yes
10
ten fans?
Wait no, 7
you want digital rgb or just rgb
digitals more expensive
Um, it doesn't matter to me
Budget is no issue,
and mobo connector or remote?
Any price, as long as it's not like 1k
well not corsair b/c 3 of there fans is 120$%!!!
Lol wow
mobo connector or remote for rgb?
Unifans
3 pk:https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07D3K4XG1?tag=pcp0f-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
1pk:https://www.amazon.ca/DEEPCOOL-CF120-Customizable-Addressable-Lighting/dp/B07D3KCKGQ/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiA1pyCBhCtARIsAHaY_5duXsYSWe7Qh9WnZg7XN4MJ4h9X0vWNNEqCv0yzHVTzX2M4O5UalnYaAickEALw_wcB&hvadid=359979598308&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000782&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=b&hvrand=15377805489487533276&hvtargid=kwd-814184119845&hydadcr=24949_10283304&keywords=deepcool+cf120&qid=1615329469&sr=8-1 these are good i have them
Rn, I have 7 cooler master fans, in a lian li o11 dynamic, im debating on if I should change EVERYTHING. since I got the money rn
idk ur choice
https://www.newegg.com/lian-li-uf-sl120-3b-case-fan/p/1YF-005G-00015
Pricy but... I feel it's worth it
Yea, I figured I'd ask around and see what people see is like the best fan (that's rgb lol)
@knotty sparrow oo, I've seen those, that's why I was thinking of lian li
Yeah those have really nice aesthetics and cut down on cable clutter with the interlocking design
I have one last question ( I think), is the cooler master ml360r a good aio cooler? For like, a 5950x.
how much is it
I would probably pair that with the lian li fans
How much
$140 I think
I use the ML240 of that and it keeps my 5800X chilly, even overclocked, so the 360 wouldn't be bad if it's the aesthetics you're going for
EK 360mm slightly cheaper and arguably better design for what you are going for but the ML360 would keep it chilly, yeah
@magic scarab I've seen that one too! It looks really good
Mine should be arriving thursday
oh also EK 360mm best noise normalized performance iirc
would have to check GN tests again
If I did an EK setup, I would probably go all EK fans
the Vardars are nice
Which has better Temps tho?
So, I've seen these custom loop kits from Thermaltake, just for the cpu, that would be better?
Imo, custom loop for just cpu kinda dumb
custom loop not for people who dont know everything about custom loops
remember those weird slime loops that people did in 2016?
Lol, I'm not really new to it, but I've never done a loop before
Ye, custom loops are all in or nothing
weird year
Usually you can get better results from a good aio than just a custom loop kit, for a lot less monies
IK IK cpu alone is weird, but I really don't want to ruin a 3090
its not weird
just costly and hard to do for people who havent done it before
extremely hard
Not really worth just doing CPU, since an AIO does the job easier for less money
I see. Lol this is why I like to ask around
you can hook up an AIO to your GPU, right?
Not easily
@low pumice agree
And I don't think they made an adapter for ampere GPUs yet
With a few modifications you can put an AIO on a GPU
Any other 360mm aio suggestions?
I should get a 280 and hook it up to my 3070
Make sure those vrams are cool though
Don't think anyone made a good adapter for ampere yet tho
Yea
The old nzxt bracket was neat since that still had a fan on it for vrm/vram
Though 3070 is gddr6 not 6x, shouldn't be that hard to cool with just small heatsinks
Thx for all the feedback and suggestions!
Which 120mm fans do you recommend? I need 6 that use RGB
What budget? There's a big difference between fans that are $10 each and $40 each.
Is there much temperature difference between a radiator that has 2 fans and one that has 3?
I was looking into liquid cooling and the one I found that I like is $40 cheaper for the 2 fan
250.00
One option, help reduce cable clutter with interlocking fans
https://www.newegg.com/lian-li-uf-sl120-3b-case-fan/p/1YF-005G-00015
are they better than corsair?
Define "better", what features do you want from them?
Let me give an example, if you plan on air cooling then the Corsair LL fans would be great, but the Uni Fans have more static pressure which is good for liquid cooling setups.
Is the ASUS Rog Ryujin 360 acctualy better than the EK 360? At cooling
My guess is no. Its just an asatek cooler
is the kraken x53 good?
This is cheaper and better when it's in stock https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-liquid-freezer-ii-240-liquid-cooling-system/p/N82E16835186247
This is also cheaper and better but RGB https://www.newegg.com/ekwb-liquid-cooling-system-ek-aio-240mm-d-rgb/p/37B-000B-003G2
Not for the price, you are better off getting a EK AIO or a Arctic Liquid Freezer II
ok
if price was no issue, for a 360mm aio, what would be the best preformance cooler. ml360r (coolermaster), asus ryjin 360, or EK 360
wow the rgb looks very cool
EK 360 most likely
ok thx
EK
What performs better is not an opinion.
fair enough. thanks for the feedback!
corsair
ok
nzxt ur paying 200$ for led screen
but im a little worried to install it is it hard to install an aio?
no
ok thank you
i have the lancool ii and am thinking about getting 2 nf-a14 for the top and 1 nf-a12x25 for the back and moving the 3 stock fans to the front is this a good idea?
hmm
?
not sure
cringe
i'd rather have the good fans in the front and the stock fans in the back tbh
why
the thing is my top can have 2 140 so i dont want to put 120s up there
you don't have to put 140's up there even if it allows it
i'd rather have 140's as intake (if it allows it) and 120's as exhaust
so 2 140s in front?
140's do be moving air a lot so that's my reasoning for intake and the 120's in exhaust just exhausting it
or 3 120's
idk if there's a significant difference in between 3x120 and 2x140 in the front, i'd have to check if there's sum on reddit or yt
so should i get 2 140's for the front and then move all stock fans to exauhst
yeah that'll work
i'm not getting a definite answer if it's better to have 3x120 or 2x140 but i'm just gonna assume it's quieter since there's less motors and bigger fans have to spin slower than smaller fans to move the same amount of air, so it's probably a difference in sound and not really a difference in cooling temps
In general, you want more air going in than going out. Stock fans tend to be weaker and would be good for exhaust, but not on a radiator if you're doing liquid cooling.
^
and airflow oriented fans don't work well with radiators as well
pressure-optimized fans work best
360mm AIO is about to arrive for P400a. Only place it will fit for is front panel. I'm guessing I mount it as intake. Anything else I might have to do special?
Not really. Ideally you'd want the tubes down when on the front but if that's not possible up is fine too, as long as the radiator is above the pump.
Jay's expressions in those pics lol
You guys mind helping me with the installation of my 3070 strix ek waterblock?
this is really useful, thanks
im happy people are starting to understand radiator mounting positions cause after gn's first video. oh boy
crusades going around everywhere even when for the "ok" position
people want to yell at others and call things bad more than they want to help
you see it here all the time 🙂
How do you even mount it in the bad position, on the bottom of your case like?
^
as long as the pump isn't above the highest point on the radiator in an aio you're fine
Ahhh
I can’t take this anymore
I can’t put the tube in that connect cpu to gpu
It’s so hard
really short tube or up and over the gpu so theres more room
I can’t get a short tub in and up and over looks ugly asf
Is there a way to fix my computer cooling it’s extremely Loud for some reason
It’s probably the fans of the water cooler I’m assuming
ooof ...
considering you can only but it front of case but that is too big, and tubes to small id say return and get smaller
;-;
But muh sweet cooling
On jah tho there has to be a way
Phanteks website advertises that this should work
I might have to mount it the ‘ok’ way rather than the ‘better’ way
Yeah try that, sorry i thought you meant the rad was too big for the front of the case when you said it doesn't fit
The tubes just aren’t quite long enough for it all to fit nicely
Is there some technique I’m forgetting to use?
Magic? Idk you might just have to use okay method
The only difference between “okay” and “good” is potentially a little bit of noise
Cable management is a yikes but it’s done
lol most mid tower cases can’t actually fit the “better” way of mounting a rad in the front
Unluck indeed
I had to do the ‘ok’ version and am now idling and under heavy load at around 45/50c
there’s only a small amount of cases that can actually fit the “better” mount
Like?
depends on gpu size
How can you tell if a fan is configured to push or pull?
THe side with the motor braces is the exhaust
It's more a matter of how it's positioned and air direction. Is the radiator between the fan and the exterior, moving air into the case? That's a pull.
As far as direction the fan is blowing vintage is right
Alright thanks
I had installed 2 fans myself and didn’t find out till today from some other people that I installed them wrong
"Wrong" is subjective, there's only more or less efficient setups. More efficient is desirable obviously.
Yeah
I thought I installed them to push air out but I installed them to pull from the top
Thermodynamics say heat tends to rise, so a top exhaust is more efficient to help the natural rise of air instead of fighting it
Also, if you inspect the fan carefully, somewhere on the outer edge is an arrow showing which direction the air moves
Alright cool
Usually the part with the logo and fan speed, voltage, etc is where the fan blows
I see
Would it be worth it to get another 280mm or something, mount it as exhaust, and hook it up to GPU?
I’m guessing no but my card has cooling issues so
Depends, what GPU?
Just put thermal pads on it then lol
The cooler itself is kinda dumb tbh
I am throwing this idea out there for mostly aesthetic, note that
But cooling would also be helped
Really, it helps.
Liquid cooling only keeps core temps down, not vram and vrm
VRM and VRAM are already super high as it is
You'll still need to stick pads and heatsinks on there if you go with a water block, a lot of 3070s don't have full cover blocks available.
Hmmm
Just checked and EK doesn't have blocks for that card
And there's not really any good custom brackets for 30 series
Is anyone here familiar with corsair rgb and fan controls?
Mainly if I have 9 of their fans, plus cpu block, gpu block, asus motherboard and gskill trident ram, would I be able to control all that with a single controller/hub?
might get a better answer from their discord, but I’m pretty sure you need 2 hubs
yeah, they don't have a single hub that does more than 6 fans by itself
hey i m vishi
hiiiii
does it work fine if there are 2 hubs connected to my motherboard with their software?
that's probably a question for the corsair discord or google, I wouldn't know firsthand
you could maybe run splitters out of the hub actually
and if you're using commander pro (I don't know what else you'd use) it has two rgb channels, which can each take one of their 6 connector rgb hubs
that's still mostly me guessing though, I'd get a second opinion :p
Hey, i asked this before but said the wrong case, is adding intake fans to my nzxt s340 worth it? Will it help performance
Does it have a front grill
Or is it a covered one
If its covered
Looks like it won't do much
I have received a TON of requests lately for a review of the NZXT S340. So here it is - is this affordable case as exciting and revolutionary as NZXT's promotional videos would suggest?
Sponsor link: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/221304-corsair-gaming-k70-rgb/
Pricing & discussion: http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/227781-nzxt-s340/
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Olay thanks I'll give a watch
Hmm he didn't say if you should add fans to the front or not
anyone have an opinion on the EK-AIO 360 D-RGB CPU cooler with 3 additional EK-Vardar EVO 120ER D-RGB case fans?
EK is a good one, often recommended here
the aio comes with the fans
and if you don't find them on newegg you'll most likely find them on the ek website
He means extra fans for the case so they match
The EK-Vardar EVO 120ER D-RGB - White is a white-framed version of the high-static pressure computer cooling fan, designed and built primarily for highest-performance computer liquid cooling systems. Developed in-house and first introduced in 2014, the EK-Vardar fan is now also available as EK-Vardar EVO 120ER D-RGB.
ohh
jus buy the ek-aio elite if you plan on buying three more fans
it's a bit cheaper than buying three additional ones for the case
i was going to buy an aio and 3 more fans because the rgb blew out on my current case fans
the ek-aio elite comes with 6 fans + aio for 200 bucks
Not a bad deal
Reason: Bad word usage
compared to ek-aio 360 which is $155 + 3($26) for additional fans, it's a steal
oh wow
This six-fan All-In-One liquid cooling solution is a sealed, maintenance-free system that combines best-of-class performance with addressable D-RGB lighting. With a universally compatible CPU block, it fits all the latest Intel and AMD CPU sockets. Requiring a triple fan mount makes it compatible with larger case designs.
sheeesh
it looks like it also comes with a rgb hub
what does?
what a steal lol
the elite does
thats crazy
damn, I just bought a hub from Asus for my 360mm EK AIO too
Btw should i bother getting seperate thermal paste for the id cooling se 224 I'm going to get, kinda mixed results with included paste
why would you?
unless you are doing some mega serious overclocking and trying to push every last megahertz, not worth it
but you arent doing that on an SE 224 anyways
the difference is very minimal anyway
It'll only make a few degrees difference max. A more likely problem is uneven mounting pressure.
a tube of arctic silver 5 or similarly well-known paste is only 5 bucks if you really want the peace of mind over it
speaking of, how is the quality of EK's included paste?
my AIO came with a couple milligrams of it and I want to know
probably the same as 90% of included paste
Okay thanks
dang, do i get the elite version and 3 more fans so i can have a push/pull setup too?😂
Push pull isn't worth the extra fans
I feel like, with 3 Vardars in my PC, there is too much positive pressure
even with 2 noctuas and a rebranded coolermaster pulling it all out
so just go with the 3 pulling to the radiator and use the other 3 to push it out of the case?
at the back, yeah
wait could i even use a 360 aio with that case?
but arent tube on the top problematic?
no?
you can still get gurgling since the air would get trapped in the top tho
no?
potentially a small amount of noise, that's it
that's the only difference between tubes up and down
I literally have an AIO installed with the tubes at the top right now
You can also get gurgling with the hoses at the bottom because air can still get trapped in the pump
its fine
Air would have to go down to get out of the pump
Air doesn't go down,
It's fine either way
provided the radiator isn't at the bottom of the case. THAT'S a problem
okay so with tubes on bottom it just makes sure there is no gurgling but tubes on top are still fine yeah?
just the occasional gurgle lol
You will probably never get a gurgle
No, pump needs to be below the highest point of the radiator
unless you meant isn't lol
yeah pump
mixed it up lol
I have had zero problems with this so far
Going hard tubing soon.
Bit of a noob question but i haven't cleaned thermal paste in a while, are the cpu cleaning wipes okay to use?
Using a paper towel is alright
If those wipes have a high % alcohol they'll work perfect
I can't find what % it is but the wipes have a 5 star rating?
And ppl say it's good in review
Look at the "ingredients", if the first thing is says is alcohol then it's probably ok
Thanks
Alright
Many if not most aios aren’t built to be refilled
Alright cool
There are a very few on the market that have a fill port on them but I couldn't tell you which ones
Doubt it even has a fill port
Alright cool
What's a better fan: cooler master sickle flow v2 or lian li sl120
Also what's the best 360mm aio...
Best is subjective, but the EK and liquid freezer ii are usually recommended on here for price/performance.
Price for noise normalized perf
I have a Ml360 from coolermaster, and Im debating on changing everything
You can if you want but it won't be that different from what you have. The ML tend to be a little loud so it would probably run quieter if you got another one.
Or just change the fans on the ML
u mean the pump runs loud? or fans
The fans, I've never noticed the pump on mine
lol when temps get high the defalt fans sound like they are dying
h150i pro/xt ek n liquid freezer ii
i would probubly get the coolermaste sickle flow v2 to replace the defalt ones. good idea?
ive seen that one, it was going to be my go too, but idk
They're kind of meh quality fans, not fantastic but not terrible.
You don't have to use the same brand.
would those lianli tripple fans be better?
Don't buy unifans
only fans i despise from lianli
the triple fans vs h150i pro/xt?
or?
er, SL120
I think I may keep my ML360 to save some cash. I do want to replace the fans tho
ML140s, P14 or noctua
Wow some strong feelings on the unifans
They're a good concept and pretty good fans for radiators, but expensive
Preferably ML140s or P14s
I like unifans but they're just LL120s all over again
for how new they are they shouldn't be that bad.
they arnt like attached together tho
Anyway, let's say this: how much would you be willing to spend replacing these fans?
$30 - $75? (for all three)
preferably less then $ 200 for 7 fans total
ML140s or P14s
but Honestly, ill spend anything under $500
Oh going for all 7 matching, nice
Only 7?
$20-25 per fan is a great range
yea, I have the budget, I just never know what to do
CORSAIR ML140 delivers unrivaled performance and silence by utilizing magnetic levitation technology and custom rotor design. The innovative design provides both high static pressure and high air flow.
You could go overkill and get a bunch of ek vardar fans
yea, problem is... I like rgb
They have rgb ones, lemme grab a link
thats ok, i found it
Where are you looking that it's that much?
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-vardar-evo-120er-d-rgb-500-2200-rpm
EK-Vardar EVO 140ER D-RGB is a high-static pressure computer cooling fan, designed and built primarily for highest-performance computer liquid cooling systems. Its high-quality Dual-Ball bearing and the Start-Stop function ensure the lowest of noise emissions and a true 0db environment if your PC is not under load. Under the motor hub, there is ...
The CORSAIR ML140 PRO RGB PWM fan combines unrivaled performance and low noise operation, by utilizing magnetic levitation bearing technology, with vibrant RGB lighting controlled in CORSAIR iCUE software.
Yeah corsair is thrown out the window
110$ for 2 fans
outrageous
I was looi9ng on amazon LOL
120mm corsair fans are horrible
ML120 is good but ML140 is better
for like
same pricing
yea, I dont think it would fit tho
atleast H150i pro/xt comes with rgb ml140s
they will
O11 XL will fit triple 140
your radiator would be the limitation if it doesn't support 140
but, on the radiator
yea, Idk. I REALLY like the look of the vardars
yea. they make good powersupplies tho
they make alot of good products
just super overpriced
yea
I think what I will do, is get a bunch of vardars, and keep coolermaster ML360
save money
thx for all the suggestions and help!
you could also buy the EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB. its $199 but it comes with 6 vardar fans.
then just buy some more vardar fans for $25 each
Vardars are only good for liquid resistance. Other then that, fairly loud and low lifespan
I'd get Arctic AIO with an RGB strip tbf. That or get upHere/EzDIY 6 pack with it
Oo, good idea. That's good value.
Is that really true that vardars have a low lifespan?
If you run them into the ground then yeah but that’s the same with anything.
50,000 hr lifespan
So almost 6 years
Eh
Noctua has 150,000hr rates MTBF
Testing and experience will tell you more whenever applicable
Well for the Vardar that number is based on if you are using them for cooling the radiator.
What
MTBF means constant use at 100% for x hours before the average failure afaik
Being on a radiator doesn't matter
Either way, need testing or actual experiences with the fans to know
Oh fair enough
so my AIO I just bought, assuming I keep it on 100% for as long as I have my computer, will last 6 years?
I meant they come with the radiator as a package
give or take
The fans yes
cool beans
If you have your computer running the fans at 100% for 6 years straight that’s crazy😂
Yea, lol I wouldn't really call 6 years om 100% a low life span, but I see ur point
Ill be replacing it within the next 3 years, likely
with whatever is newest and greatest
Unless EK sells a bracket for AM5
Yea, hopefully I'll keep my build for 3 or 4 years
Hello guys, Does anyone know if the https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-z490-h-gaming/p/N82E16813119295?Description=h strict gaming&cm_re=h_strict gaming-_-13-119-295-_-Product supports multiple fans? Can I connect 1 cpu cooler and also connect 3 more fans that are build into my case?
1 CPU fan and 2 Chassis fan connectors
For more fans you'll need a hub or splitter cable
Aah thanks, appreciate the help! I was looking to build it into Cooler Master MasterCase H500M but the case has a total of 3 fans
so i think i would need a splitter in that case, right?
correct
thanks! i will look into both
6 connectors
2 at the bottom right 2 above the top 1x and 2 above ram
Did you read tho? 1 x VRM_HS_FAN Header, 1 x M.2_FAN connector, 2 x Chassis Fan connector(s), 1 x CPU Fan connector(s)
1 x CPU OPT Fan connector(s), 1 x AIO_PUMP connector
Just because there's a header, doesn't mean it should be used. 😉
i just went through images n saw this
Manual vs marketing material
Three of them aren't really controllable
Oh
Even if it was a fan thats controlled in software like iCUE or aura?
But CPU and CPU_OPT are tied together
Only if it's connected using a different means like the USB 2.0 header with separate power
so if you had like a commander pro it would work
The manual states they aren't really controllable but IDK
have to see the BIOS to confirm
my 3070 watercooled it running at 57c under full load. Is that normal?
Yes that's fine. Cooler than my CPU on my AIO.
Any waterblocks for the PNY XLR8 RTX 3070 yet?
Is that the one that uses the reference design?
Yep
Is the cooler master 410R any good?
yeah, but it has stuff added
Not for the price, there's better for cheaper like gammax 400
Not available in my country
What about this one? https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B082V7TCSB?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1
Ventroo V2
also nope
Dang, you might just have to go for the one you picked then if the good stuff isn't available
Won't be bad at least, 6 pipes
Honestly Vermoo v5 looked good
was debating about either saving for an AIO or just getting that
Basically at this point, anything better than 212
should I even bother watercooling rn? I have a custom loop for cpu, waiting to add gpu, my temps never rlly go aboce 70c on the gpu full load with low fan settings
Vermoo?
Ventroo?
apt-get moo?
like I usually do.
Ventroo V5 lmao
so basically more heatpipes=better cooling?
As long as the design is good.
Ah Falcie
or what are the variables to good cooling
Other channel lol
Typically yes, but not a hard rule, fin density plays into that too
That would make sense why 212 evo is oof
Found the issue, needed BIOS update
5600x in B550
CPu freq was reading 0.00 MHZ in one of the screenshots XD
Yeah I've been checking in on that convo, really should be the first things we ask
At this point, i'll be happy for anything that doesn't have a convoluted installation lol
There's so many versions of the 212 evo
like mounting brackets.
its confusing.
They all suck equally
Super cow activate baybee
Also racer, you were right
might as well keep with the LPX
since my FCLK can't go any higher.
Tried manually timing my ram to see if I could push it.
Nope
Checked every site I know, and no blocks are compatible yet for that card
Rare considering reference PCB
I appreciate it
shoulda just bought a 2080 ti when all that went down
It's not quite reference though, alphacool has a reference block but doesn't list this card
Few
enough to make it not work on ref waterbloccs
Fair
What’s a good cooler that’s Intel stock size for i9. 9900k
Hey just to double check 90% rubbing alcohol should work fine to remove thermal paste?
yes
Okay thanks
Hell, I’ve used hand sanitizer before
Really, that not stick lol?
It’s alcohol and it works
I haven’t used that cooler since (was just a wraith spire that I was trying to get the paste off of) but the paste came off nice and clean
Lemme get a picture of the heat sink
As you can see, no trace of the paste
Hmm nice lol
Well i found some running alcohol lying around anyway so think I'll just use that instead of sanitiser XD
Gel doesn't evaporate. Keep it away from CPU's and sockets.
Mmmmm
Fine
Tbf I used it because I just wanted to get the paste off a heatsink I knew I was never gonna use again
I was just taking it apart for fun and had no isopropyl on hand
What about Vodka?
-_-
I know
Which means
You said 40% or less, implying anything over that is fine
Ok lmao
nice hand 
Ty
Cpu now runs at 66° under full load instead of 85-90° 
Noice, much better
hey folks, any idea what I need to buy to attach an mp5 works BPC to a gpu in an otherwise air cooled rig?
What kind of pump/reservoir would be the cheapest to just have a BPC loop?
This is what I have on my laptop I under volted the cpu, set the curve on GPu.
Only 80mm fans going at 1800-2100rpm and I think it's weak @knotty sparrow
My laptop model is HP omen 15, from year 2018
I'm pretty sure I should upgrade to a better cooling pad with larger fan sizes like 100mm at least?
just buy a desktop smh my head nether
buy me one. Jokes aside.
I don't think I will ever because of bad GPU prices market, thinking of buying another stronger laptop or even a good pre-built pc... :EliteSkull:
:v
Shove in a desk fan. Yes
Wheeze LOL
Makes sense because the floor or desk fan pulls in alot of air
Hence that's why i think i should get a cooling pad that is going to push alot of cold air into heat pipe assembly vents
Was wondering if this looks like a bad job? Can I remove that thermal paste even tho it's not on the main square?
The paste only needs to be on the middle parts, that's the die that generates the most heat. The green part doesn't need paste.
Once you take the cooler off you need to re-paste it anyway.
Yah it wasn't me who did that job. I was having heat issues so I wanted to repaste.
Was wondering if I can clean it all up. Like rubbing alcohol applied everywhere you see the pastr
Yeah, some high % alcohol, 90% is preferred
Dab a microfiber cloth with the alcohol, don't put it directly onto the parts. (in a pinch you can even use paper towels, but less ideal because tearing)
What about q-tips
anyone know of any good (preferably white) 240mm aios about $120 or less?
Sure, but don't leave any cotton behind
Thanks :)
Looks like too much paste was used
So it spilled over a bit
I doubt that's a real problem for cooling, but it's a bit messy
Usually people use cotton swabs or cotton balls I think
What does the cooler look like?
The cooler design has a huge impact on cooling performance
As well as making proper contact with the heat spreader/die
And ofc replacing your thermal paste every 3 to 5 years
well i just replaced the paste. its an xps 15.
was constantly running at 90 degrees. going to see if this lowered it
HUGE difference. played a couple games of overwatch. im still sitting at 70 degrees.. omg
sorry i have no idea
This is sad
@fallen timber it's easy to tell
You know what the cooler looks like
Here's a heatsink with one heat pipe
Here's one with two
And here's a fancy one with several
The more heat pipes you have, the better cooling you can get
Same with fin arrays
This part under the fan is a bunch of fins
I've been using a 3rd gen i3 dual core HP laptop that has two heat pipes and two arrays of fins, it stays nice and cool, while my brother and cousin have newer 4th gen core i7 HP laptops with one heat pipe and one fin array, and they both have terrible cooling performance
this one. its double
can someone tell me which is the best position to fix cpu cooler radiator
As long as the highest spot on the radiator is above the pump it's acceptable, ideally top mounted as exhaust
Interesting
Is the CORSAIR - TM30 Performance Thermal Paste good thermal paste
id just get arctic or kryonaut
Ok thx
Artic silver right mx4
ya
Ok thx
Quickie. When is water cooling needed? Building the build for my next build, and I have never had water cooling, mostly because I have never thought about it.
Now it's the time to ponder it.
for big overclocc
Or looks
Thank you. Then it's not me.
good air cooler outperforms most aio anyways kek
I am ugly enough not to need any more competition from my case.
Looks as in clean looks.
what kind of AIO cooling would you guys suggest? 3 fans maybe? I have no clue
Lol, I misunderstood. Looks neat.
@marsh condor well, what cpu, what budget, and what case?
Instructions unclear, clean look not found https://i.imgur.com/vLjZWq0.jpg
Something like this, especially if you have a newer amd chip https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-Liquid-Freezer-All-One/dp/B07WP6M7P7
If their case can fit aio, and if their budget can fit an aio, and if their CPU warrants having an aio.
what would be a good AIO 240mm (rgb) that would look to cool a 5000 series down the line (for example let's say anything from a 5800x upwards on AM4)? bang for buck vs top of the line?
looks pretty swish, cheers
What is the difference between the H115i Pro XT and the H115i Elite Capellix? Is it literally just the rgb fans?
fans, pump, block and hardware
guess hardware? for the rgb within the block and what the block design is
Hmm
it's just the rgb on the pump block/fans
"elite capellix" is the name for corsair's fancy LEDs
Oh wait, it also comes with a fancy fan and rgb controller doesn't it? I already have one, so I guess it is technically cheaper since I can just sell the controller
doesn't really come with a fancy controller
it comes with a hub, which it has to use for power
the fans it comes with are ML120 Pro RGB that have 8 LEDs instead of 4
Oh, I thought it came with a Commander PRO Core, not just the hub
it comes with a commander core
the commander core is a fan+led hub that also powers the pump
Yeah
it's only bundled with elite capellix units because it's how their pump gets power
not very useful on its own
Is air cooler good for i7-9700k
yes ofc
😁👍
litty
dropped via stealth bomber
Is that enough paste?
X method x method
X method
X marks the spot
cries in pea-shaped dot
Is it ok to allow my gpu to stay 80 degrees celsius if in weekend I tend to play for many hours sometimes?
Or should I alter the fan curve so it's more 70ish
90 or above is where you should care about gpu health
80 is well within tolerance. It'll still boost at that temperature. It won't throttle until closer to 90 range.

