oh wait someone already linked one nvmd lol
#old-cooling
humble star
sick cipher
i may go with the Halahad then. was already looking at it. i originally wanted the Corsair Platinum but the 240mm is 200 dollars and thats too much for me to spend on 240mm imo. crazy part is the 280mm is 125 rn lol
but i want to top mount the Rad and my case only supports 240mm top mounted
twilit fog
I have a custom loop right now with a 360mm rad. Should I watercool my 3070fe aswell?
Or not spend the money
topaz blaze
I have a custom loop right now with a 360mm rad. Should I watercool my 3070fe as...
No
not worth the hassle
if you had more rads
sure
pallid bloom
can anyone tell me if this fan controller is the same one that comes in my case https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali485/p/N82E16883360080?Description=3080&cm_re=3080-_-83-360-080-_-Product&quicklink=true
https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali460/p/N82E16883360045?Description=3080&cm_re=3080-_-83-360-045-_-Product
I bought a new prebuilt PC on newegg, and the fan controller power cable melted in 6 hours
Newegg tech told me to come here and wont help me
knotty eagle
Both of those links lead to a PC case
@pallid bloom if you'd wait for a reply instead of spamming channels.....
pallid bloom
sorry i messed up
sec
just kinda stressed out 😦
didnt mean to spam not thinking clearly
The new pc I got still works, but the front and rear fans died, the fan controller power cable melted
newegg wont give me an answer if im covered or not, so it kinda seems like I need to replace it myself
knotty eagle
how long ago did you purchase the PC?
pallid bloom
few days
knotty eagle
Ok, here's what I would do
DM NeweggService here in Discord
Calmly and nicely explain the situation and ask for an RMA
have your order number handy for them
It might take a while for them to respond so don't panic and be patient 😉
pallid bloom
any idea if its the right fan controller?
they dont have it in stock anymore and i might not be able to get a replacement item
knotty eagle
I honestly have no idea
I would be more concerned with why it melted in the first place
It might an issue somewhere else and not the fans nor controller
Or a fan may have died causing it to melt
I would ask for an overall RMA of the entire PC or a return since it failed
pallid bloom
I already did the replacement request on the website and got an RMA number
im worried I might not be covered
I kinda removed the PSU and the cables to inspect it for damage after it melted
knotty eagle
If you got an RMA number
Then that means they accepted the return and you just need to ship it back
pallid bloom
ok
lucid walrus
guys any suggestion for 5900x air
azure crown
just go buy a prebuilt
azure crown
because you're annoying :P
knotty eagle
Not a gammax for a 5900x
lucid walrus
is g 400 really capable of cooling 5900x
atomic jetty
vetroo v5 probably hard budget pick
lucid walrus
what about noctua
atomic jetty
noctua's always good, I'm not sure exactly which of their models are best for you
lucid walrus
nh-d15 black
atomic jetty
a d15 would definitely work, I think that's their beefiest isn't it lol
lucid walrus
its about the size of my imac
atomic jetty
I'm a fan of be quiet for big air coolers personally, a dark rock pro 4 would work I think
lucid walrus
what cooler is the coolest
atomic jetty
as in looks cool or as in highest performance, lol
lucid walrus
HP
atomic jetty
I don't know for sure but I think the nh-d15 is at or near the top of air coolers
lucid walrus
& very expensive
atomic jetty
yeah, I don't think they're normally as expensive as they are now
lucid walrus
& performance of zalmans new coolers
low pumice
btw cnps20x isn't as good as we first thought it was
It's within margin of error of d15
lucid walrus
😂
atomic jetty
I know absolutely nothing about zalman lol
low pumice
the guy who got it to test first, and told everyone it outperformed D15 by a few c, had a d15 that was defective for some reason, they later used a different D15 and found a much smaller delta between d15 and cnps20x
Anyways, I'd try to grab a NH-U12a to not interfere with any tall ram modules over d15, small loss in perf but a lot less possibility of headaches
knotty eagle
Don't go around the word filter
lucid walrus
oh oh sorry
sorry
thanks guys
im ad
everywhere
@low pumice bye mrcloudflare
sharp jacinth
looking to get an 240mm AIO for my case in the future. Never touched this type of cooling before. From my understanding the units come sealed with their own coolant. What kind of lifespan do they typically have if refilling is not an intention?
knotty eagle
5+ years
Typically the fluid isn't an issue but rather the cold plate fins inside getting plugged up
sharp jacinth
cool, thanks for the info. 5+ years seems pretty reasonable!
sharp jacinth
I'm just running a 3700x with stock wraith prism cooler with 1 rear and two top exhausts and 2 front intakes and it handles everything fine. thinking more down the line if I upgrade to a 5000 series. AIO would be top mount 240mm to replace those fans.
thanks for recs, wil give them a look in
knotty eagle
I run a 360mm AIO with my 3700x
Keeps it nice and cool
28C idle and 75 C with some pBO tweaks at 4.3 ghz
sharp jacinth
nice
sharp jacinth
so far being stock it seems to manage pretty well. my new build is 3700x, rtx 3070 oc, 2 x 16gb 3600mhz ram, 1tb 980 evo nvme. Was playing cyberpunk at 1080p (need to get a proper monitor soon) on ultra with dlss quality and RT and it barely scratched past 75
planning to get a decent monitor and move to 1440p in the near future, so should be fine
knotty eagle
Can confirm that exact setup 1440p 165 hz.
sharp jacinth
didn't even seem like the cpu was getting hit for more than 50% load during play either
knotty eagle
Keep in mind that the boost clocks rely on temps
SO the cooler it is the faster it will run
sharp jacinth
it's a pretty solid setup as far as I can tell! just need to get away from this monitor. 27" 1080p IPS from work, managed to push refresh from 60 to 75hz at least, but doesnt do the graphics as much justice that it could do!
yeah, I think during use it hovered comfortable around 4ghz, so definitely room for improvement
being my first build in over 13 years (didn't have a desktop all that time either), left the AIO this time around to put more budget into faster ram etc.
board is msi mag mortar b550m wifi
slender pagoda
What are some good case fans for cheap people recommend? I don’t care about RGB
knotty eagle
Arctic P12
atomic jetty
was just about to type that lol
slender pagoda
30 for 5?!?!?
That is fantastic
Matches my AIO
Can you alter the fan speed with a controller on the Arctic p12?
slender pagoda
NICE!!!
magic scarab
I run a 360mm AIO with my 3700x
Overkill tbh
knotty eagle
not really
slow fan speeds
whisper quiet
cool temps
$120 lol
It does have the older Astek Gen 5 pump though
Gen 6 is better
magic scarab
EVGA? Don’t you only ever recommend EK or Arctic?
Or did you get it on sale or something?
knotty eagle
WDYM, had it for quite a while now
Also, what I recommend for others and buy for myself varies
magic scarab
Alright
knotty eagle
The CLC 360 is still the top of GN's cooler list
magic scarab
I should get an AIO with my mining money
knotty eagle
When you don't consider noise normalized performance
But recommend it and people get upset
magic scarab
Idc about noise unless it’s super excessive
magic scarab
Ah
knotty eagle
Like, 65 DB full chooch or something
knotty eagle
No idea but it's good too
knotty eagle
max fan speed
magic scarab
I’d that temperature?
knotty eagle
It means if the room temp is 30C, the CPU temp was 33.6 C
knotty eagle
my 3700x idling right now at 28C lol
magic scarab
I could comfortably touch that and not get burned
knotty eagle
Yes
magic scarab
So if all those other AIOs are so good
Why recommend EK and Arctic or whatever all the time
?
Quieter?
knotty eagle
Yes, quieter
I put silent wings fans on mine
But by the time you do that the price goes up a lot
knotty eagle
You'd need 3 with a 360mm aio
magic scarab
Yeah ik
I’ve heard that aftermarket fans don’t work that well with air coolers (don’t know how true that is)
Is that different for AIOs?
magic scarab
How would I know if a fan is static optimized?
knotty eagle
It'll say
magic scarab
Ok
elfin current
How does one measure the quality of an all in 1 liquid cpu cooler
elfin current
I'm just curious if this is good for ryzen 7 5800
covert apex
Will you be overclocking?
elfin current
Not aiming to
covert apex
Do you plan to upgrade to a Ryzen 9?
covert apex
I would recommend saving a lot of money by buying a good air cooler.
elfin current
One that houses on the cpu
elfin current
I'm new to all this so please forgive me lol
covert apex
EK and Arctic both have great cheap AIOs though
elfin current
Doing a white build
knotty eagle
Lian Li galahad then
elfin current
Lian Li galahad then
So stick with a liquid or should I go air? Whats better?
mystic token
I got the h100i rgb platinum
cold scroll
quick question, i recently case swapped out of my old prebuilt and got a 212 rgb. i just feel a bit weird about it bc of how low my temps are
like i ran timespy and peaked at around 55-60c
i just feel like it's too low and i should question it
i7-8700 btw
knotty sparrow
Too low? No that's not too low at all
cold scroll
ig it just feels unrealistic since in my old prebuilt pc with the case and cooler, i'd get like 85-90c on games like cod
and now it just feels weird
knotty sparrow
Welcome to the world of aftermarket
atomic jetty
What’s fun is there are better performing coolers for cheaper yet 😛
autumn mirage
hey will the nzxt x63 fit in a fractal design meshify c ?
knotty sparrow
Yes
I've not seen an AIO cooler that didn't fit the meshify c, unless you get into massive sized ones like a 420mm
granite patrol
careful, u might have to remove the HDD cage if u want a 360mm one
i own the case, can't fit a 3rd fan on the bottom because of the cage
knotty sparrow
Who uses a 3.5 HDD these days
There's the 3x 2.5 drive mount that sits behind the board, and a 280 or even some 420s would fit top mount
knotty eagle
Who uses a 3.5 HDD these days
There's the 3x 2.5 drive mount that sits behind th...
Ahem
knotty sparrow
And I have 3 front fans, you just need to shift the plate covering the bottom one
topaz blaze
Who uses a 3.5 HDD these days
There's the 3x 2.5 drive mount that sits behind th...
*COUGH COUGH 18 drive seagate raid
knotty sparrow
Officially the top fits 280/360 rads but I've seen some 420s fit
granite patrol
what?
knotty sparrow
Not in a meshify C you won't
knotty sparrow
Yes, there was one guy that did a small mod and fit 1x 420 top and 1x 240 front, even though specs say it should be the other way around
granite patrol
can i get a link?
2 140mm fans fit really comfortably on the top of my case
so 420mm seens like a big stretch
knotty sparrow
I've been looking for the link, and the more I think about it, the more it may have been meshify 2
topaz blaze
am I insane
knotty sparrow
Yes but what's the real question
topaz blaze
or do I think this might be a somewhat plausible idea to cool a pc with chocalate milk
topaz blaze
I guessed that lol
knotty eagle
Plus cleaning that loop
granite patrol
I've been looking for the link, and the more I think about it, the more it may h...
yea that seems more likely
knotty eagle
May as well just get a new one
magic scarab
Doesn’t milk have a relatively low freezing temp?
topaz blaze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cBCVouinNo RIP the 2011 pc, was curious so brought the vid to general
knotty sparrow
It might be ok for a few minutes but it'll curdle fast at high temps, and chocolate in a pump...
knotty sparrow
You'd have maybe an hour at idle, maybe enough time for a benchmark before it solidifies
granite patrol
wdym as fast
topaz blaze
GIgabyte did a example
at CES
like if you spill water on parts
doesn't seem to break it
granite patrol
pretty sure ek has this fluid thats non-conductive
topaz blaze
it might, but be slower
idk
Cause otherwise how does that pc work fine, if it can survive that.
Wouldn't that help with leaks
knotty sparrow
It would be less electrically conductive at least with distilled but water+silicon=bad
topaz blaze
Ah.
azure crown
its 3M's novec line of engineered fluids
very interesting stuff
hasnt really garnered much consumer product interest sadly
knotty eagle
Mineral oil thinned out
Can do the same thing with mineral oil, the submerged PC
But it has to be really pure
knotty eagle
40C boiling point seems kinda low
wraith rose
Some of them go way higher
azure crown
yee thats the point
turns into a vapor, taking the heat energy from the components with it
azure crown
yeah, but just a ton of fluid lol
then the vapor gets cooled by a big radiator or whatever, and turns back into a liquid for reuse
knotty eagle
Yeah, just an overssized heat pipe lol
knotty eagle
I mean, kinda? Seems like an old concept they're trying to find a market for
azure crown
its not a matter of age, its a matter of efficiency
azure crown
if you take datacenter floor space as a premium, you can pack so much equipment with cooling tech like this
topaz blaze
especially if its a very big server
knotty eagle
This is true
topaz blaze
That would make sense, but employee forgets to put the right liquid lol
azure crown
lmao
knotty eagle
I just wonder what the initial investment cost is to convert everything
azure crown
you couldnt convert, you would build an entirely new datacenter around the fact that you are using this type of phase change cooling
wraith rose
Just install a swimming pool, it'd be fine 
azure crown
the initial investment cost would be similar to getting 4 massive chiller units and a fire suppression system
plus the rest of the typical datacenter fix-ins
topaz blaze
Just install a swimming pool, it'd be fine <:kekw:741678350791081994>
don't forget all the nasty stuff in that lol
and chlorine
topaz blaze
I accidently put water
u could use water but almost any particles that would get in the water would make it short 
That's what i would assume
most liquids Bad
wait all liquids bad for pc
knotty eagle
Sse224xt fin density
topaz blaze
Ok
tired fog
Sse224xt fin density
how much does the density matter? if it's denser, does it dissipate more heat or is it more efficient if it's less dense?
knotty eagle
There's a fine line between dense fins for heat release and also allowing airflow to move the heat out
Just posting here if someone was curious
teal wing
4 wut cpu?
teal wing
unless ur running a celron
arctic remnant
I7
arctic remnant
10700k
teal wing
teal wing
yep
teal wing
yep
magic scarab
Or one of Bryce’s 480MMx2 AIOs
teal wing
little much
magic scarab
Only a bit
teal wing
yep
magic scarab
@light fog what CPU are you running with those things again?
magic scarab
Overkill
teal wing
lol
magic scarab
Overkill
teal wing
magic scarab
That’s the kind of cooling you out on a 3990x that’s constantly rendering 16k blender renders
Or doing quantum algorithms
light fog
Well more or less both of them could combined could handle maybe 1600W of heat. More or less.
That's assuming each 120mm section can handle 200W.
I don't have detailed testing yet that's a rough guess.
magic scarab
Get a 3990x and test it
Only a $6000 or so investment
For a 3990x itself and a good TRX40 board
magic scarab
And a 1600w PSU
teal wing
wow only 6500$ ?!
magic scarab
I said $6000
magic scarab
Go back from whence you came
gusty flare
damn this looks nicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urLCzthUwIA
hope this works as fine as the se224 xt
tall maple
sweet tapir
im sorry ik you told me which is better but i forgot, which did you say was better the Corsair ICUE H150i RGB PRO XT or the Corsair Hydro Series H150i PRO RGB? @low pumice
sweet tapir
EK 240mm is cheaper and cools better
yeah that aint available in egypt, and i cant buy anything online
sweet tapir
basically whats available are Corsair ICUE H150i RGB PRO XT or Corsair Hydro Series H150i PRO RGB or DeepCool Castle 360 RGB V2
sweet tapir
Oh, gotcha!
are they the same?
sweet tapir
performance wise
which is better?
sweet tapir
yeah they are both the same just ones XT and ones normal PRO i think
might be wrong tho
knotty eagle
Lemme look real quick to double check
Pro XT
Is better. Coolit pump rather than Asetek
sweet tapir
alright well thank you so much i guess ill get that one
knotty eagle
YW
atomic jetty
is coolit actually better than asetek? I thought that was like a coke vs pepsi thing
gilded drift
Hello - My first time here. I'm looking to replace 2 noisy fans in my power amp. HENGRD HD8025H12S Server - Square Fan HD8025H12S, DC 12V 0.18A 2-pin 80x80x25mm. Can anyone provide a good and quiet replacement? Thank You!
low pumice
Interesting, @gilded drift do you know if it's a 2-pin or 3-pin header in there?
A 3 pin fan should still work on a 2 pin header as long as the 12v and GND are connected up, but the connector might not fit in tighter places. Either way, something like this is a great quiet 80mm fan that you can try.
https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Bearing-Cooling-NF-R8-redux-1200/dp/B00KF7T9MI/
gilded drift
It's a 2 pin. I found this and ordered: 80mm by 80mm by 25mm 8025 12V DC 0.20A Dual Ball Bearing Brushless Cooling Fan 2pin AV-F8025MB UL CE
I went ahead and ordered what you suggest and will compare. Thanks Mr1111 !!
low pumice
Fair enough, Noctua should be much quieter, we'll see, it'll also depend on clearances inside :)
clever tinsel
First time visitor here. Is the right place to ask about CPU coolers?
knotty eagle
yes
magic scarab
Yes
clever tinsel
Great! I bought parts to put together but when I tried to replace the Intel CPU's fan with an VICABO INITIATE PC CPU Cooler Heatsink, I discoved that the fan+housing overhangs the mbd DIMM slots too closely to allow room for the DIMMs.
clever tinsel
Yes, in the sense of what best way to describe or to research a CPU cooler that will fit my system without having to empirically try them all one at a time. 🙂
magic scarab
What case, motherboard, and RAM kit do you have?
knotty eagle
Yeah, that CPU cooler is overpriced for what it is anyway so return it ASAP
clever tinsel
ASUS ROG MAXIMUS XII FORMULA LGA 1200 Intel Z490 SATA 6Gb/s ATX Intel Motherboard
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-16GVKB
Intel Core i7-10700 Comet Lake 8-Core 2.9 GHz LGA 1200 65W BX8070110700 Desktop Processor Intel UHD Graphics 630
magic scarab
I need to know the case
clever tinsel
Yes, I will be returning it, but I was wondering how best to determine what I should get that will fit.
It's an old Supermicro Extended ATX server case., no idea of a model number.
magic scarab
You think you could fit a Dark Rock Pro 4 in there?
clever tinsel
I have no idea, let me bring up the specs on that.
knotty eagle
Measure in inches from the CPU to the case edge where the side panel goes
Or look it up, yeah
clever tinsel
I'm willing to keep the case open if I need more room above the motherboard, I'd rather not have to buy another case with my budget.
clever tinsel
Ok, I just checked their website and they do have a compatibility check and they show which of their fans are compatible with my mbd! Thanks all for your help!! 🙂
magic scarab
No problem
Just to be clear, you have your RAM in the second and fourth slot from the CPU, right?
clever tinsel
Yes, that's correct.
magic scarab
Alright nice
clever tinsel
Are you anticipating there might be a problem if I fill the other 2 slots eventually?
clever tinsel
Ok, I'll make a note to myself about that!. Thanks for the warning! 🙂
livid dew
Thoughts on the Big Shuriken 3 low profile vs noctua L12s? Mobo: Asrock z490m itx/ac
Ram: Tforce Vulcan Z
Case: nr200
Oh and cpu is 10600k
knotty eagle
Shuirken 3 has more heatpipes and larger fins, it cools a little better
knotty eagle
YW
idle tiger
sharp jacinth
do AIO's typically have 1 fan power cable for all fans on the radiator, or is it one cable per fan?
knotty eagle
Totally depends on the AIO
knotty eagle
YW, just check the specs for each one
The RGB ones tend to come with a hub or splitter cables
stray garden
hi guys, my icue software started being unresponsive to my cpu cooler/fans, any idea how to solve?
stray garden
how dare you suggest such a silly, yet pragmatic suggestion
it worked
lol corsair
kinda weird
knotty eagle
LOL!!!
RGb software is buggy on the best days and downright frustrating on the worst
stray garden
yeah, i'm not so much worried about the rgb, but pre-patch i couldn't control the rpm of two of my fans
works fine now thanksfully
magic scarab
You can control fan RPM in iCue?
stray garden
yeah, i do most of mine on their, mostly because it works
not sure if i should be using an alternative, but it's got decent controls with the whole icue dongle thingy
vivid citrus
What CPU/budget
magic scarab
And case and RAM kit
silver viper
i710700k honestly less than like 100\
magic scarab
Dark Rock Pro 4 if you have clearance for it
vivid citrus
Noctua
silver viper
honestly just finishing up a build for one of my buddies so im just vibing
vivid citrus
Anything not low profile
magic scarab
NH-U14s looks ugly
vivid citrus
Nhu14s
vivid citrus
Bullhockey
magic scarab
Those ugly beige fans
vivid citrus
I love those
magic scarab
Dark Rock Pro 4 also has silver heatsink
vivid citrus
I mean the balls on noctua to make something so unique
And then it preforms so well you see those colors and immediately think good cooling
magic scarab
I have some Noctua case fans
vivid citrus
It was a risky move but the fans are so good they successfully pulled it off
magic scarab
They pretty nice but ugly as hell
magic scarab
It was a risky move but the fans are so good they successfully pulled it off
Oddly enough it costs more to make the fans that ugly beige color
They coulda just kept it white or black and been on with it
vivid citrus
Honestly have found that the beige slipps into most projects nicely
The chromeax is kinda a sellout move
But oh well its were the money is
vivid citrus
Oof big claims
twilit abyss
^
vivid citrus
Cools a 3900x in an nzxt case nicely
vivid citrus
Well
The pure rock 2 is the best in my book
It goes against my noctua religion but being loyal to one brand is stupid anyway
magic scarab
Agree
Noctua is one of the few examples of a brand where the 
model typically doesn’t matter
Same with Elgato arguably
vivid citrus
I mean you have to know what you need but yes
chilly hare
is this a true, "getting a fan controller and adjust fan curve so intake is faster then the exhaust. that will also cause positive pressure."
I have a phanteks p500a case it can work
I have 3 in the front intake fans and 3 exhaust fans 2 on top and one at the end of case
knotty eagle
yes, it's true
I have 140mm intake fans in that case and 120mm exhaust
You'll need to split your fans up though and run them at slightly different speeds
chilly hare
All of them at diffrent speeds
chilly hare
Okay i also I have a phanteks p500a case it can work
I have 3 in the front intake fans and 3 exhaust fans 2 on top and one at the end of case
Like this
2 on top are exhust and 3 front instake and the end of the case exhuast
knotty eagle
yeah, just get the fronts on a splitter cable so they all run off one MB header
and the other three on another splitter to the MB
And can control them separately
Don't necessarily need a hub for that
chilly hare
Well i can control all the fans exept gpu with in my bios settings
silver viper
I have some Noctua case fans
which dark rock pro
magic scarab
4
silver viper
pog
jagged grail
how much thermal paste should go in my reservoir
plush coral
any good AIO cooler suggestion
atomic jetty
Arctic liquid freezer II, ek aio, lian li galahad, Corsair pro xt and elite capellix
timid carbon
how much thermal paste should go in my reservoir
500ml
For most reservoirs for those optimal temperatures
XD
fluid lichen
we'd better tell him that's not how thermal paste works
dawn hawk
we'd better tell him that's not how thermal paste works
no
fluid lichen
okay
magic scarab
no but alcohol will
lower freezing point, easier to cool in cold spaces
plus the tubes are going to be a vacuum to is cant catch on fire
silent panther
@jagged grail put as much paste as you can
twilit abyss
yes.
silent panther
What are you talking about <@591030998729228308>
a joke
magic scarab
dont joke here unless you make it really obvious
someone could take that advice seriously
that would be bad
velvet rain
that would be quite bad
magic scarab
this reminds me of compooper recommending an HD 7770 for 1080p gaming
thats one gigabyte of vram
one goddamn gigabyte
and the person bought it too
dawn hawk
yeah people shouldnt joke in channels that arent #general-chat honestly
i meme sometimes but not with new people
velvet rain
and the person bought it too
ok thats sad
knotty eagle
You can imagine my surprise when they came to #build chat to troubleshoot a stuttering issue
And then showed me things said here
silent panther
other ppl said not too so its fine
if nobody said otherwise i wouldnt say the joke
that would be very bad
knotty eagle
They were told to buy an HD7770 as a gaming card
silent panther
who?
knotty eagle
Someone here by someone else here
silent panther
oh god
silent panther
also if the guy has a res chances are he made it himself and would know what hes doig
because if he didnt do it himself it would already be filled
magic scarab
even an iGPU is better than an HD7770
silent panther
yeah im talking about the resevoir thing
magic scarab
I was on Vega 7 from my 4700u and it was actually pretty nice
magic scarab
im on UHD 630 now (I gave the 4700u laptop to my mom)
silent panther
i cant play any games other than among us at 1080p
silent panther
oof
magic scarab
i mean, I still have a 1650Ti but still
silent panther
uHd MeAnS 4K sO u CaN pLaY gAmEs At 4K
magic scarab
uhd means 4k which means you can display video in 4k
games are secondary when making iGPUs for CPUs
and usually not even considered
silent panther
my computer cant even run 4k video
not to mention 1440p video
1080p video it runs at like 30 fps
so ok
silent panther
yeah
i play rocket league at like average 45 fps at 900p
at least i dontn have a chromebook
lol
i have the amd a12 9720p
it has 4c/4t but feels like 1c/1t lol
i even upgraded it to 16 gb
and its stil very slow
so basically im never owning a gaming laptop again lol
its too risky
pcs are just better
ive seen ppl with acer nitro 5s with messed up fans and theyre super loud
they have to use compressed air to slow them down
magic scarab
ive seen ppl with acer nitro 5s with messed up fans and theyre super loud
I have that ;-;
floral field
My mum laptop has 1c/1t xD
silent panther
you got a very nerfed nitro 5 then because my friend has a ryzen 3300u with vega 8
and it was like 650
also sorry if i respond slow its because im in algebra lol
velvet rain
almost all low end intel CPUs do
don't the higher end ones have igpus too
magic scarab
maybe
velvet rain
pretty sure all intel cpus have igpus except the -f ones
magic scarab
check your 10850k
velvet rain
check your 10850k
has uhd 630
velvet rain
all intel has that i think lmao
magic scarab
i have a 1650Ti in this laptop tho
teal wing
hello
covert apex
Hi
teal wing
im looking 4 some coolignm fans...
magic scarab
Noctua
teal wing
here are my requierments
- 1-55$ cad
-3 pin rgb like this +D -
-120 mm fan
from a well know brand
magic scarab
Noctua
teal wing
RGB
covert apex
Per fan or a pack?
teal wing
3-4 pack plz
magic scarab
noctua but get RGB strips then
covert apex
What motherboard do you have?
teal wing
y
covert apex
Most motherboards have 12v and 5v RGB headers
teal wing
both
2 4 pin rgb
2 3 pin rgb 5 or 12 v
hello?
here are my requierments
- 1-55$ cad
-3 pin rgb like this +D -
-120 mm fan
from a well know brand
-3-4 pack
requierments⏫
topaz blaze
Should i get corsair AIO and corsair fans or noctua nfa12 and noctua case fans how many years Will Each one last
low pumice
atomic jetty
only go for corsair if you really want the RGB
topaz blaze
Yeah noctua also has better prices and quality but corsair looks so good
topaz blaze
Whats mtbf
low pumice
But even if you look just at warranty, 2 years warranty on a SP120, 6 years on a nf-a12x25
Mean Time Between Failure
topaz blaze
Oh
atomic jetty
noctua performance kings
topaz blaze
Yea
low pumice
Nidex gt still decent
Arctic p12 lower quality imo than gt/a12x25s tho
A12X25s > gentle typhoon still tho
topaz blaze
Noctua already has the best fans now they should focus on aestethics imo if their fans looked better it would be a no brainer to go noctua over any other brand
atomic jetty
they're working on it, this year they're making black fans AND white fans
topaz blaze
Yeah but werent they supposed to release their White fans a few years ago
low pumice
Hell, they would've had black NH-U12a already if it wasn't for covid
atomic jetty
lol
low pumice
NH-U12a black was q1 on the roadmap for this year
@topaz blaze nah, they started development on chromax fans like 5 years ago tho
topaz blaze
Oh
atomic jetty
ahhh
atomic jetty
last updated 01/21
topaz blaze
I dont think im gonna wait for the White fans im Just gonna get the chromax black A14 and s12a as exhaust
low pumice
Not completely before covid but last year before covid was huge
topaz blaze
Are Lian li fans good or are they like corsair fans
atomic jetty
uni fans pretty af
atomic jetty
not especially good or bad unless I'm mistaken
atomic jetty
but you don't buy those for performance 
topaz blaze
RGB and gaming chair 6000 FPS boost
atomic jetty
someone posted a build with a bunch of uni fans in #build-pics yesterday and I thought it was pretty sick
topaz blaze
Should i get a ek aio or a arctic aio
atomic jetty
Ek if you want rgb
granite moat
Should i get a ek aio or a arctic aio
Ek looks better imo
Arctic looks good but the pump is weird
magic scarab
Nice cooler
ancient gale
Ty it was 23$ the other day steal
Ye I just like white and my case I gonna be mainly white
atomic jetty
that cooler blows the pants off of anything around that price
ancient gale
Ye
atomic jetty
if it does, make sure it's 5V
ancient gale
Yea thx
ancient gale
Nah I got a GIGABYTE B450 Aorus pro WiFi (can’t have wired cause the router is across the hous)
It’s new I think
atomic jetty
aorus is gigabyte's nicer line, it almost definitely does lol
granite moat
Yeah
ancient gale
Ye
tired fog
keep them incase you sell the cooler or sum
ancient gale
Ye n
tired fog
what
ancient gale
Or i can save them if I ever upgrade to an itntel and I say ye
ashen zodiac
Hello, I currently have a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO RGBand get 65-71 C on my 5600x while gaming. I would like to upgrade to a AIO because I would like to get lower temps and, later on, upgrade my ram. I can't fit 4 ram modules since the cooler's fan blocks one of the slots. Which 240mm AIO would be the best in my case? I am currently considering the corsair capellix 240mm AIO since I have many corsair parts on my PC. Should i get a different one? Thanks!
tired fog
if you don't care about looks, and only care about performance, then go with a liquid freezer ii
rgb-wise, ek-aio is a nice option, you get the rgb=sex, and good performance
velvet rain
liquid freezer
tired fog
ek also has that sweet all black version 😩🤌
white swallow
hey guys
my back cpu cooler back plate is a little loose with the stabilizers in but i havent put the part with thermal paste yet
atomic jetty
if you already have corsair rgb fans, the elite capellix comes with a commander core you can connect them to
ashen zodiac
rgb-wise, ek-aio is a nice option, you get the rgb=sex, and good performance
Do you know if the EK's rgb is comatible with iCue?
atomic jetty
although there's also nothing wrong with your temps really
tired fog
hey guys
my back cpu cooler back plate is a little loose with the stabilizers in...
put the cooler onto the mobo, you don't have to worry too much about the thermal paste, you can easily clean it off with a paper towel and some isopropyl alcohol, putting the cooler onto the thing should make the backplate go up against the mobo and not make it loose, tightening it up
ashen zodiac
although there's also nothing wrong with your temps really
Is it really safe to run my PC for hours while gaming at those temps?
The cpu I mean
My XC3 ultra 3070 barely goes over 60 degrees
tired fog
i'd be worried if it hit low 80's
atomic jetty
yeah, ryzen doesn't start to suffer damage/life loss until you pass like 85
tired fog
if it comes with a stock cooler then it'll prob run for a good while with a 212
ashen zodiac
yeah, ryzen doesn't start to suffer damage/life loss until you pass like 85
Ah that's good to know. I think I'll still upgrade to an aio later on bc I cant physically fit more ram BC of fan clearance
white swallow
put the cooler onto the mobo, you don't have to worry too much about the thermal...
im using a x63 cooler and the cpu cooler back plate is a little loose
tired fog
yeee
atomic jetty
well, it says it uses a 5V rgb header
ashen zodiac
and no i don't think icue could work on ek's products
Ohhh
knotty eagle
The EK would work from the MB software
ashen zodiac
well, it says it uses a 5V rgb header
I can control my cooler master rgb fan and asus rog mobo rgb logo from icue
tired fog
idk if icue is still proprietary to corsair products
ashen zodiac
But the 3070s rgb i can only control from evga's app
tired fog
rgb software smh
atomic jetty
rgb software slight pain
ashen zodiac
rgb software smh
yeah lmao
atomic jetty
I think that's why I said screw it and got all corsair hardware
everything's in icue
tired fog
im using a x63 cooler and the cpu cooler back plate is a little loose
are you confident with your screwing?
ashen zodiac
everything's in icue
thats my build
white swallow
@tired fog how do u mean?
tired fog
like
atomic jetty
I just have the aio and more ML fans
tired fog
you said you had the cooler installed already, correct? @white swallow
white swallow
do i do the inner circle or outer
tired fog
wdym?
ashen zodiac
I just have the aio and more ML fans
I have the 465x that comes with 3 LLs, vengeance rgb pro and a extra 120mm ML non rgb that came with a friends aio
Ah and corsair psu as well haha
tired fog
🤌 
ashen zodiac
The only 2 corsair things I can get to go full corsair is CPU cooler and storage haha
tired fog
well
ashen zodiac
tired fog
you can if you wanted to
ashen zodiac
you can if you wanted to
But those that you sent me are better and cheaper lol
tired fog
i think corsair also makes a m.2 cooler or waterblock
ashen zodiac
i think corsair also makes a m.2 cooler or waterblock
wat
I mean i could also get a corsair KB and Mouse hahaha
I already have a HS60
ashen zodiac
Bought them like a year and half ago for $20
tired fog
they also make dummy sticks for the vengeance rgb pro iirc
just corsair doing its thing
ashen zodiac
they also make dummy sticks for the vengeance rgb pro iirc
Yeah lmao
I was looking at them when selecting my parts
ashen zodiac
if only g.skill made trident z rgb dummy sticks
Yeah, I was actually going to get trident Zs, but...
They're not iCue compatible
hahahahaha
tired fog
smh my head
ashen zodiac
Stupid me will prolly end up getting 16x4 dominator plats if I get a better job
ashen zodiac
platinums look better than vengeance pro
Ofc, I just had a very tight budget when I built it last year
tired fog
why does corsair have to limit their icue to just corsair products smh
you can prolly use the mobo to control the ek's rgb and replicate what you're doing with icue
ashen zodiac
you can prolly use the mobo to control the ek's rgb and replicate what you're do...
That's what I'm thining
Thinking
Thats my mobo
For controlling the CPU cooler fan's rgb I'm using the header next to the cpu fan ones
1 x 3-pin Addressable Gen 2 RGB Header
2 x 4-pin AURA RGB Headers
the page says that it has those rgb headers
And the EK product discription says this. FULLY CUSTOMIZABLE D-RGB LIGHTING - The EK AIO features fully addressable D-RGB lighting, easily customized to match your set-up via your motherboard or standalone RGB controller. Requirements: - 4-Pin PWM Header for pump and fan operation - 3-Pin Addressable 5V D-RGB header
low pumice
I kind of want to start talking about how Corsair isn't great, but just keep in mind Corsair is not the best in anywhere other than high end PSUs
@ashen zodiac And on your motherboard, the header next to the CPU fan is the 4 pin 12v rgb header, for the ek-aio, you'll want the 3 pin 5v argb header near the bottom
ashen zodiac
<@!572212896616939560> And on your motherboard, the header next to the CPU fan i...
So it should actually work with the asus plug in?
low pumice
The Addressable gen 2 header, if the header is too far away, Asus claims that the motherboard came with an addressable RGB extension cable
ashen zodiac
The Addressable gen 2 header, if the header is too far away, Asus claims that th...
yeah
low pumice
This header.
ashen zodiac
This header.
I see, if I connect it there, can i control it through the asus plug in or icue for that matter?
or do I need a EK propietary app
low pumice
It is compatible with Aura sync (Asus thing), but not icue
@ashen zodiac Most of all rgb can be controlled via the mobo software, Asus aura sync, Gigabyte rgb fusion, MSI mystic lights, or ASrock RGB LED
ashen zodiac
I think it should still work bc iCue has support for Aura sync now
low pumice
Who knows
ashen zodiac
I can control my mobo rgb and Cooler master cpu fan through iCUe
low pumice
Personally I don't like any rgb software :P
ashen zodiac
Personally I don't like any rgb software :P
Me neither, but I sure do like my rgb, so i don't have a choice
low pumice
:D
Tbh, I want hardware control for all rgb
I love not needing software and able to change rgb on my Keychron keyboard
I want a TD500 mesh, which lets you change the rgb on the case via the controller via a button on the case
ashen zodiac
<:NOCTUA:668554182147702795>
Noctua's the better choice for everything, but my monke brain says rgb XD
low pumice
hehe not quite
Personally I find Noctua lacking in coolers other than low profile, where they are the only real option, and 100$ range, U12a or D15s
ashen zodiac
hehe not quite
At least for fans it is right?
ashen zodiac
Personally I find Noctua lacking in coolers other than low profile, where they a...
yeah that's true, the real good ones are very expensive
low pumice
They have nothing bad, nothing sub-par, nothing really mediocre, it's all good, just not always the best
low pumice
Personally I don't go by brands, so do you mean color scheme wise..?
ashen zodiac
I prefer evga for GPUs since I see their CS in the US is very good and they're of very high quality.
ashen zodiac
Personally I don't go by brands, so do you mean color scheme wise..?
Nah I meant like part brands, or what do you use as basis for choosing parts
I basically looked at a lot of vids and reviews and started adding everything to my newegg cart.
and for the gpu I kept looking for an EVGA or ASUS 3070
low pumice
For how I choose parts, it's a lot of previous knowledge, and various google sheets open xD
@ashen zodiac For example, I keep price and stock situation in mind for CPU choice, cooler wise, depending on budget, either Gammaxx 400, Fuma 2, NH-U12a, or Freezer ii 360mm for top end, all because of testing, gammaxx 400 because of TPU testing, rest from GN testing.
Motherboard wise, I have various sheets for VRMs and features
Ram wise, Ballistix for the Micron rev e, or otherwise just for the spec (freq&timing)
SSD Wise, SSD Mastersheet
PSU Wise, PSU tier list and their sources, sometimes I need to turn to TPU testing or others.
Case wise, mostly GN testing
ashen zodiac
Ram wise, Ballistix for the Micron rev e, or otherwise just for the spec (freq&t...
I also wanted to know, how do I know what die is my micron ram?
Bc I saw that some types of Micron ram OC better than others
knotty eagle
Timings or Thaiphoon Burner
low pumice
Use thaiphoon burner to check for sure
knotty eagle
Freeware
unique lilyBOT
xrendermanx#9110 has been warned
tough palm
All right, I'm looking into getting an AIO for my 3900x. Any suggestions? I'm rendering on this sucker because my rx580 is inferior (and the market is screwy for gpus).
tough palm
Thx 😄
heavy violet
Would it be ok if i put exhaust fans at the bottom of my pc? (I know that its not the right way but I would rather have it so the frames on the back dont show) I have a lancool 215 with 2 200mm fans in the front and a 120 in the back, adding 2 120mm. ty
magic scarab
It’s better to do intake at bottom and exhaust at top, if anything
heavy violet
got it. Someone was telling me that adding more fans might not help (it would just add more turbulence). I bought the fans partly to add to my cpu cooler, and get some more light into my case bc it looks pretty empty lmfao
knotty eagle
It depends if you're trying to change the direction of the air
Generally, front to back, bottom to top is best
magic scarab
Are there any good chimney-style cases that aren’t actually god awful at cooling and don’t have an included PSU that you can’t take out?
leaden smelt
c700m
Awesome case
does anyone have any idea how I can cool my strix 3090 junction temps for casual mining when I’m at work?
I tried attaching a bunch of small heatsinks to the backplate, doesn’t make much of a difference
And at like 60% power in MSI afterburner, it’s still getting to like 92C junction
And I need the fans to be damn near 100%
knotty sparrow
Mining on a 3090 is not really a good idea, profit margin is pretty low.
That said, best practice for mining is to drop the core frequency as low as you can, and raise the memory as high as is stable. That will reduce both power use and heat, while maximizing potential profit. @Cetus#0001
small mortar
So I getting a 5600x and I decided to get an aio for it. What would be y’all recommendations? It has to have rgb fans to match with the rest of my fans.
magic scarab
EK or Arctic 240mm or larger
small mortar
Thanks I will look into them
Is the nzxt kraken any good? It came up while I was looking up those two
small mortar
Ok good to know
dawn hawk
So I getting a 5600x and I decided to get an aio for it. What would be y’all rec...
just get good air cooler lul
knotty sparrow
If you want to overclock, a good air cooler or a 240mm aio if you want liquid
It's only a 65 watt chip so doesn't get too hot
magic scarab
Dark Rock Pro 4
atomic jetty
~100w
don't read TDP, it is a useless metric
go by power draw, every company calculates TDP differently
knotty sparrow
Yes, overclocked it will use over 100 watts, but it's an OK thing to look at for comparisons like for like. A 65W AMD chip will generate less heat than a 105W AMD chip.
atomic jetty
in which case you can just refer to the power draw because that number will also be bigger
knotty eagle
TDP only factors base clocks
atomic jetty
the main thing is it's not standardized at all and intel, amd, and every cooler company calculate it differently
small mortar
I’m thinking about over clocking and I think aio look better than the air coolers
knotty eagle
EK 240mm or Arctic Freezer II
atomic jetty
if you're going for looks, probably ek aio or lian li galahad
maybe corsair elite capellix if you like corsair
low pumice
@small mortar air cooling can still do very well for overclocking, but chonk isnt for everyone
native iron
Hey guys, does anyone have experien e with lc 360 aio cooler from rog? How is its performance. Gonna pair it with 5600x
low pumice
Evga clc360?
@native iron well, 5600x doesn't exactly need that much cooling to start off
native iron
<@433324150413721611> well, 5600x doesn't exactly need that much cooling to star...
Hmmm, so I can pretty much get a decent aio right? Assuming it has good reviews
magic scarab
could probs get away with stock on the 5600x tbh
topaz blaze
My 2600X can cook eggs when exporting videos, which cheap cooler should I get?
native iron
Yeah im using it for 3D rendering. But yeah not those huge renders, im still almost 2 years of experience with modeling and rendering just furnitures and sometimes exteriors using vray 3ds max. Im leaning rn on buying an AIO
atomic jetty
if you're buying for looks or form factor then go ahead, but the 5600x doesn't generate enough heat to make one absolutely necessary for cooling.
low pumice
@native iron I mean, I'd just get a good air cooler for it
A 20$ gammaxx 400 will work surprisingly well
EVGA's clc series have very loud fans by the way, just as a note
dawn hawk
use gloves when installing cheap air coolers
unless u like getting your hands sliced up by fins
low pumice
Smh
velvet rain
My 2600X can cook eggs when exporting videos, which cheap cooler should I get?
se-224-xt or gammaxx 400
low pumice
Se-224-xt stock be gone tho
low pumice
Gammaxx 400 time
knotty eagle
White SSE still available last I checked
slender pagoda
no
The Kraken has great reviews and outperforms the arctic according to a few reviews
covert apex
Not worth it for the price at all compared to the Arctic Liquid Freezer II
low pumice
@slender pagoda in what review does it outperform the freezer ii?
last time I checked TPU, Anandtech, and GN had freezer ii outperform kraken noise normalized
slender pagoda
low pumice
tbh I don't trust that guy at all nowadays
covert apex
He's not a bad youtuber but GN does some of the best testing
low pumice
The data just doesn't match up with what I find on other testing
but eh
Quick anandtech testing grab
x73 is a 360mm aio compared to the freezer ii 240mm
low pumice
Yes, I am just giving data
GN testing we all know freezer ii wins, I thought tpu had a freezer ii review, I guess not
slender pagoda
Quick anandtech testing grab
420 vs 360 you mean
slender pagoda
liquid 420 not 240
slender pagoda
ahh i was looking at highlifgted