#old-cooling

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covert apex
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Overpriced for what you are getting tbh

knotty eagle
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It does cool decently though

covert apex
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In my opinion not worth the larger price compared to Arctic AIOs

knotty eagle
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Or the EK240mm

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$120 I think

covert apex
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The EK AIOs are great for the price

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Just sucks there is not a 280mm EK-Basic

granite patrol
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or this

lucid walrus
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guys what 5900x air cpu cooler model is the most popular

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anybody...

knotty eagle
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Dark Rock Pro 4, Deepcool Assassin 3, Noctua NH-D15,

velvet rain
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^

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would say d15 over others

tired fog
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no u12a mentioning : (

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less chonky and has about the same performance

lucid walrus
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thank you guys

novel lance
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So my friend just build a pc and it will not power on and it says cpu fan error any one know how to fix

azure crown
novel lance
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it said it right afte they installed windows and now it wont turn on

azure crown
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it is on

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its just not booting windows

novel lance
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It turns on and the fans turn on but then it shuts down

azure crown
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well, just move your cpu cooler fans to the cpu fan header

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should be near the top of the board

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the motherboard manual will tell you where it is

novel lance
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I'll tell them that

cinder nymph
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If anyone here is a VR user, what are the ideal temps to shoot for in like VR idle

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because I'm getting 70-82C in the Oculus Home Menu

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and I kinda think that's not the good

knotty sparrow
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CPU or GPU temps? What specs?

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80 is completely within tolerance but has room for improvement

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Even though it's "idle" it still has to render, track movement, etc

cinder nymph
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it was CPU

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I only have sensors for my top fan, front fan, and cpu fan

knotty sparrow
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Ok, and what CPU? What temperature do you get while playing?

topaz terrace
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Does anyone one here own the MSI Mag Coreliquid AIO

outer burrow
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lol i wish i even had an aio

knotty sparrow
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Probably don't need one unless you're overclocking a high TDP chip

topaz blaze
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I know the basic idea of swapping a cooler but i just want to confirm it with some.
1, stress test to heat the thermal paste.
2, take off cooler
3, put on new cooler

velvet rain
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no

topaz blaze
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what am i missing

velvet rain
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  1. take off cooler
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  1. clean thermal paste off with alcohol and paper towel
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  1. apply new thermal paste
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  1. put on new cooler
topaz blaze
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yes that too, i wasnt really going into detail

velvet rain
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other than that, thats it

unique lilyBOT
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Statt#5883 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

topaz blaze
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bruhhh

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oh poop i forgot about the alcohol

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thanks anyways, ill update if i break a pin

velvet rain
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k

topaz blaze
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would i absolutely have to use alcohol. what if i just clean the majority

knotty eagle
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That'll be fine also

topaz blaze
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thanks

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should i use the pre applied paste?

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im assuming it would be better if i add the xtm50 i have

knotty eagle
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yeah, if you have it use it

lament kite
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What is the correct amount of paste to use? I've heard anything from the size of a pea to covering the surface and I figure the ideal amount is something in between.

knotty eagle
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Pea sized drop

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Or a thin X

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It honestly doesn't take much

lament kite
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I'm just worried I'll use too little and the transfer wont be good

low pumice
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GN did testing, too much doesn't hurt performance much

knotty eagle
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It's not about performance, it's about the mess lol

low pumice
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@knotty eagle eh, you can wipe it off around the socket, and they did say transfer so

knotty eagle
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Spooge it up then

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Make a mess, not my CPU lol

lament kite
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um... I guess I'll just use two peas then.. that feels right

velvet rain
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use one pea

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doesnt need much

lament kite
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ok

topaz blaze
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@velvet rain uhhh so I stressed it. Ran cinebench 5 times

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But the cpu got stuck...

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NEVERMIND I GOT IT

velvet rain
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what’d you get? @topaz blaze

magic sparrow
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I like just doing an X cuz it works for both CPU and GPU ways. Problem with pea is that if it isnt centered well, uneven shape, uneven application of cooler, etc you can miss the corners. Which if on a die (CPU delid or GPU die) that is a big no no.

novel badge
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guys

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this chat room is called cooling

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give me water

sterile echo
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Hey you think a stock cooler is good enough of a non-overclocked 3570k? Got it in a system I bought on the cheap and planning on using it to rip and encode my blu-ray collection

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I can get a slightly better one but am wondering if it is even worth it for what I am using it for.

supple harbor
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arctic freezer is physically too thick so i cant go with that

sterile mirage
supple harbor
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think ima switch to a 10700kf

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either that or something similar around the price

topaz blaze
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As soon as i took it out of the packaging it started to drip out of the sides for the socket mounts

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i kinda want to know what would happen and what temps a liquid cooled intel u cpu would have

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i doubt it'd work tho lmao

sterile mirage
supple harbor
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its cool

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thx for trying tho

sterile mirage
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no problem

stone jackal
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Anyone know like a dirt cheap RGB cooler that I can use for this i5-2400? Can be static or whatever, as long as it’s RGB and can cool this thing decently well

atomic jetty
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I think there's an rgb version of the id-cooling sse224xt

stone jackal
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No no no

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Cheaper

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Like, ~$15

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Tbh also I’d be fine with just a normal cooler if it’s mega cheap

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Just need something that’ll look kinda nice for this PC flip

atomic jetty
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you could probably find an intel stock cooler for the socket for cheap, not sure that'd look super nice though lol

stone jackal
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I’ve tried intel stock on i5-2400. It doesn’t cool it wel enough

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Up to 98c in some situations

atomic jetty
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Oh, dang

stone jackal
atomic jetty
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I mean, if it works! The cheapest cooler I'd feel okay recommending is still this one

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not quite $15 or under, but close

stone jackal
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Tsk tsk

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I mean, I got this CPU for $18. I don’t wanna spend + $7 for the cooler lol

atomic jetty
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loooool fair

stone jackal
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This is like a sub $200 build. I gotta stay cheap cheap cheap

granite patrol
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those types of LEDs dont look as good as they do in the pics

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this one i guess? its a known brand at the very least

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or this if no RGBhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/Arctic-ACALP00027A-Alpine-12-92mm-PWM-Compact-Intel-CPU-Cooler/184522906473?epid=13026957127&hash=item2af66c1b69:g:G2AAAOSwYxFfpHpw

eBay
Arctic ACALP00027A Alpine 12 92mm PWM Compact Intel CPU Cooler

If you order two or more products from us, they may. parts, accessories, etc. for this Manufacturer Part Number. has been received. utilize warehouses across the Continental United States.

cursive orchid
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how is the ID-COOLING SE-224-XTs thermal paste

atomic jetty
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if you honestly care about the stock thermal paste that much just buy a tube of arctic silver for 5 bucks

cursive orchid
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is Grizzly Kryonaut better ?

atomic jetty
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not sure, once you get to that level of thermal compound the differences are really small anyway

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and the difference between "bad" and "good" thermal compound is already small to begin with

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I got a couple little tubes of arctic silver 5 when I did my build and I'm basically set for life lol

cursive orchid
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Ty

mental drift
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Hi

cursive orchid
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Hi

mental drift
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Come to general

dawn hawk
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i mean dont

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but

velvet rain
willow notch
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Ok, so if I have a mix of 140 and 120 size fans in my desktop, is there any preference as to which should be the intake vs exhaust? @ me if you respond please 🙂

knotty sparrow
willow notch
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Front has 3 fans already I just have to add to the top

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but wasn't sure if moving the 140 would be worth it or not

knotty sparrow
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That looks like one of those cases that has garbage airflow going through the vents on the sides. If you're having heat issues that might be it.
Let me see if there's a thermal review, GN does a lot of those

willow notch
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yeah it's all side vents to the front fans

knotty sparrow
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Steve on GN said it's "good enough level of performance" thermally, so not good but not bad.
You'll want as much front power to brute force the air in as you can.

willow notch
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Ok, so I should see if the fans I just bought are any better for the front than the ones it came with or not before just slapping them on top

knotty sparrow
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Yeah without specs on the fans only way to know is to test

low pumice
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fan specs are not fun to compare with

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all you can do is test

willow notch
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So probably test the new ones on front instead of the old, see if they're better

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Ok, thanks guys for your input, really wasn't sure how to tackle this

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Thankfully i just got 3D mark on sale so I'm set for benching changes

ruby jackal
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anyone here have any experience with the fancy dancy Corsair LL140s?

bright ether
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@tired fog Sorry for ping, but I wanna thank you for recommending me the arctic cooler II, its so good, with the old cooler under full load-> 95 C/crash, now it maxes out at 71 C under full load, thanks again 🙂

tired fog
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yee man np

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have you done any overclocking with it?

bright ether
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Sadly can't, my mobo doesnt support it

twilit abyss
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intelbad kekw

golden panther
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guys I need help choosing a CPU cooler, I'm using an I7-9700F with the stock cooler and with an nvidia 2060 super it gets kinda hot, now my problem is the case has 3 fans on the front for the intake but the holes on the panel seem kinda small and i don't want to buy a cooler and have no difference in temps, the case is from nJoy its name is vanguard

covert apex
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The stock Intel cooler sucks ass.

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I highly recommend you to get a better cooler.

knotty eagle
covert apex
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Crappy case airflow + crappy cooler = death

golden panther
covert apex
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Buy a better cooler, it will fix it.

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Im sure the fans that come with it suck

knotty eagle
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Gammax 400 or iD cooling sse224 for coolers.....

covert apex
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Very cheap coolers but way better than the Intel stock cooler.

low pumice
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Se-224-xt for the full name

golden panther
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yeah the fans are 120 mm so anyone other recomandations for coolers

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event the water ones are good

knotty eagle
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They won't fit?

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I looked at the case

golden panther
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ffs havent looked at the cpu dimensions

knotty eagle
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Chill, I was just asking a question

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You made it sound like they'd be too tall

golden panther
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wait

knotty eagle
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If so, we can come up with something else

golden panther
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both are under 160

covert apex
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Yeah

knotty eagle
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The iD cooling is honestly the better of the two if it's available where you are

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But the 9700k really doesn't need water cooler

golden panther
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the gammax is 159 and the other is 154

golden panther
knotty eagle
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Nah, the F just means it has no iGPU

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The ID COoling will keep it chilly

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and it's only like $30

golden panther
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ok so i should leave a little clearing between the glass and cooler

knotty eagle
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Little bit yesh

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Not a whole lot but a little bit

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If you want something shorter I can do that too

golden panther
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sure if you are not busy

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rn im looking at airflow and rpm

knotty eagle
golden panther
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cant find the airflow and rpm to the fans i already have

covert apex
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I mean the case you have most likely has crappy fans

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its a $50 case with rgb

knotty eagle
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If you want new fans, Arctic P12's are great but no RGB

covert apex
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I think JayzTwoCents has a video on cheap decent RGB fans

knotty eagle
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Were those the Asiahorse ones?

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I can't remember

covert apex
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Possibly

golden panther
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im not a fan of rgb

knotty eagle
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OH

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well in that case

low pumice
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@golden panther don't use airflow and rpm specs to compare fans, it's just not accurate

covert apex
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Arctic P12

knotty eagle
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Arctic P12

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Cheap and blowy

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good blowy too

low pumice
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Different manufacturers measure their cfm differently, and rpm doesn't tell you everything

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Arctic P12 is great

covert apex
knotty eagle
covert apex
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I bought a 5 pack of their F12s for like $20 quite awhile back

low pumice
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I have 2 P14s

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They're nice

golden panther
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i think im gonna go with the SE-224-XT since i have an exhaust fan on the back, as for the P12 another time if the ones i have are gonna stop working

knotty eagle
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Excellent cooler, it'll do the job

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While you're at it, grab some thermal paste too if you don't have any

golden panther
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assuming i can put the fan facing the 3 front fans and all the hot air getting out through the back

knotty eagle
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Should be able to yeah, that's how they're designed

golden panther
knotty eagle
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Fantastic!

vivid citrus
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How deep?

knotty eagle
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Go big or go home lol

vivid citrus
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Is the GPU shroud coming off owo_finger

golden panther
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wut?

vivid citrus
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Well if you get really into the deep clean

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You can take apart the gpu

knotty eagle
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Repaste that too lol

vivid citrus
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And there is generally dust in there, especially if it is a older blower

golden panther
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im afraid to take apart the gpu

vivid citrus
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That’s probably ok

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Btw i was wondering of i could use TP instead of liquid metal to put back together a delid

knotty eagle
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Just blow it out really well

knotty eagle
low pumice
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Ofc, lm is just used because generally a little bit better

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Tbh I might go repaste my gpu

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Since I can't mess with fan curve, it becomes loud at 70c+

golden panther
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is there a difference between a full on gpu and a compact form

low pumice
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As in a small graphics card versus a bigger one, while having the same gpu chip?

golden panther
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yes small in size

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but the same

low pumice
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The real difference is the cooling capabilities, some smol cards can get really hot, throttling, and not being able to boost as high as larger cards with larger heatsinks.

golden panther
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i had a 2060 super with 3 fans but it broke

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now i have the compact one

knotty eagle
golden panther
knotty eagle
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Same performance most likely, lower boost clocks due to heat

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Same VRAM and Cores though

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You probably won't notice a difference

golden panther
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i havent notice anything and the temp are good, played cyberpunk and hadnt gone above 80

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but i do have the front panel off

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but gotta admit the one with 3 fans looked cooler

knotty eagle
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They do look cooler

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but

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If it works it works

golden panther
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just as a question are gpu coolers worth, for the 3000 series from nvdia i assume yes

knotty eagle
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The board partner coolers typically do better than the Founders Edition yes

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But the founders editions are decent also

lucid hawk
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embrace arctic P12 CO

silk grove
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Hey I was just wondering what you guys think about the EK AIO 240mm cooler for a ryzen 7 5800x? Ik the arctic liquid freezer AIO is better in terms of performance, but I really like the rgb and looks of the EK aio lol

knotty eagle
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It's a good one. Get it

silk grove
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Thx for the quick response

knotty eagle
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YW

narrow verge
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for it being my first time ever doing hard line i think it came out alright

knotty eagle
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One of your radiators has a fill port?

floral field
granite patrol
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throw in some custom cables, looks good

low pumice
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@lucid hawk P12 CO?

lucid hawk
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DBB instead of HDB

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for reliability

low pumice
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Something ball bearing?

lucid hawk
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whatever you wanna call it

low pumice
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Huh

narrow verge
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😂😂😂😂 help

topaz blaze
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so i think i am hearing the pump going with my corsair h100i how do i tell

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every minute or so i can hear the pump moving the liquid even at idle

knotty eagle
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Probs just air

narrow verge
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my pc wont work on the top pci slot and is only 4x on the bottem

autumn mirage
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anyone know some good case fans i could get for my build?

autumn mirage
narrow verge
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😂😂 thanks right now its a big paperweight

knotty eagle
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Connect GPU directly to motherboard. Boot into BIOS, set the top PCI-E slot to Gen 3. Save and restart. If it works, shut it down. Put GPU in Riser card. SHould be fine after that. @narrow verge

narrow verge
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only problem is that its hardline

knotty eagle
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ooooffff

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Yeah, that's a problem

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Best bet then is to get a gen 4 riser card

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Cuz 90% of them right now are gen 3 cand cause issues with new cards

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They aren't cheap though

narrow verge
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well shoot

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yeah the one i orderd was definitely gen 3

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well time to spend more money

knotty eagle
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You can use Gen 3, just need to set the slot in the BIOS first to Gen 3

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Wait

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uh

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Do it from the x4 slot LOL

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Set the top slot to Gen 3

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Save and restart, shut it down, put riser in Top x16 slot

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I'm an idiot sometimes

knotty eagle
narrow verge
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how

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where in bios

knotty eagle
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Depends on the BIOS but most of the time somewhere under Onboard Devices

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Do a search for PCI or PCI-E

narrow verge
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its strix bios

knotty eagle
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Advanced - Onboard Devices should be there

narrow verge
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alright i set PCIEX16_1 to gen 3

knotty eagle
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Save and exit

narrow verge
knotty eagle
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yeah, should be good

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after save and exit, should be able to put riser into that slot with no issues

narrow verge
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alright

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also my fans are flashing red

knotty eagle
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IDK about that lol

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Never messed with RGB stuff

narrow verge
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😂😂 also thanks. top slot is working

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how do i get out of bios

knotty eagle
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Exit, save and restart?

narrow verge
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uhh

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says there no drive to boot into

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it was working fine

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my memory is also down clocking

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man this thing has alot of problems

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it was installed

woven basalt
floral field
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@narrow verge Go in the bios. Go to "boot devices" . And then you select the one you want to boot and change it to the top.

floral field
narrow verge
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i got it. windows didnt install i guess.

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i have to order a sata rgb thing for my fans to work

wind wigeon
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hey guys, planning a water cool build but am looking for alternative companies than EKWB for a cheaper price point but good quality.. particularly my reservoir & pump. How is Alphacool? Any other suggestions?

vivid citrus
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I cant help you much but i know that alphacool is pretty well known in the water-cooling space

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I know corsair launched some things a while back

wind wigeon
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cool thanks

narrow verge
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just do ek, ifs better to spend the money on a good company then spend less on a worse company and having it leak

covert apex
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Alphacool is a good company

magic sparrow
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@wind wigeon Bykski or Barrow are about half price for near same quality

magic scarab
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What’s a good software for controlling CPU fan in-OS?

hard basalt
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what are good cheap rgb fans?

slender pagoda
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How is Corsairs custom liquid cooling?

low pumice
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their gpu blocks leak

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very easily

slender pagoda
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corsair = no no

low pumice
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(push on the top assembly part, and it will spew water everywhere, I'll need to find the video again at some point)

bold escarp
low pumice
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yep

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just push on that top part and it spews water everywhere

bold escarp
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its really not that bad, in daily use it shouldn't see that kind of force

low pumice
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um?

bold escarp
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just something to keep in mind

low pumice
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First, why have that risk when you can go for other full contact blocks that'll probably be even cheaper, and second, that is a huge risk when you're just doing routine maintenance or anything, and you just accidentally push on the tubing.

wind wigeon
bold escarp
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thats quite a bit of strain to get it to leak,
its really not that bad.

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a little bit of rtv goes along way on fixing that leak

knotty eagle
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Rtv.....

low pumice
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why even have to deal with it, when you can go for a block that doesn't have the issue?

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It's just a huge risk imo for dealing with anything in the PC, say you want to plug in extra eps 4 pin, and you lean on it trying to reach for it, water time.

bold escarp
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its a tiny leak, for a low pressure system.
if you like the look of (the block) a little rtv is the fix, and its fast and easy to do.

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if rtv can hold the water pump on an engine block,
without a leak, Im sure your gpu block will be just fine.

knotty eagle
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Except all the bolts holding it on and its metal......

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As a mechanic rtv is crap

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3bond is where its at

bold escarp
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a water pump can hold on to a block without the bolts once it sets

knotty eagle
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Until it get hot and builds pressure

magic sparrow
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The dude who originally found this issue had it leak inside the system

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with standard pressure from maintenance

bold escarp
magic sparrow
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Sure it's fixable, but why bother unless it's a very well priced used deal?

bold escarp
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Thats kinda what I said. . .
"if you like the look of (the block)" its an easy fix . . . .

magic sparrow
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I mean I guess, but kinda going above and beyond for that

bold escarp
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with a dry block out of the box it'll take maybe 30mins for it to cure enough for it to be run,
and maybe 3-4 bucks for a small tube of rtv.

magic sparrow
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paying a premium price for smth not that premium kinda is meh tbf. I'd rather get an AquaComputer block for better perf and reliability (if talking Turing, Ampere Hydro X was fixed)

bold escarp
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idk if I'd call corsair premium. . . .

but I get it, I was just trying to say theres a fix that exist if you really want that block

supple harbor
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any recommendation for budget slim fans and fan splitters?

vivid citrus
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Now it might not be “budget”

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But you kill two birds with one stone and look cool doing it literally and figuratively

supple harbor
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oof

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20 is pretty steep lol

vivid citrus
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Found something better than

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These:

supple harbor
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bruh lol

vivid citrus
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Lol i just sent you that fan

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Yeah amazon seems to be more sane, just get the arctics

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They might have built in splitters actually

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@supple harbor

supple harbor
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ima look into it

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i was gonna get regular p12s to begin with but jus gonna go with slims to be safe

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and it looks like you can daisy chain them, not sure

latent kelp
golden panther
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any recommendation for thermal paste?

thin vapor
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MX-4 and kryonaut

low pumice
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nt-h2

low pumice
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Freezer ii all the way

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Lemme check if it's in stock anywhere else

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Brand loyalty is meh

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oop

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cool air is cool :D

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wdym

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@fossil orchid did you not see Bryce do an OC session outside in like 0 Celsius conditions?

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lol

knotty eagle
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Not only that but cold air also makes a LOT of static electricity

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Ask PC users in Alaska lol

vivid citrus
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Oh hi there buddy @knotty eagle 😆

knotty eagle
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wat

vivid citrus
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im in AK

knotty eagle
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Ah

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I've read horror stories about dry snow storms and the static it causes wreaking havoc with electronics

vivid citrus
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Honestly have not really seen

sleek bay
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Anyone know a good AIO under $140 to recommend?

knotty eagle
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EK 240 or arctic freezer II

onyx violet
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is there a way to adjust my computer fan settings so they're only active when my pc is running at a high temperature?

cold island
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change the fan curve

magic scarab
knotty sparrow
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Getting a UPS with filtering would help with that

magic scarab
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Not when the static is literally coming off the drywall

knotty sparrow
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I said it would help, not solve it lol

golden panther
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i got a few questions about cpu coolers, if its height is 154 does that include the heatpipe?

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also how close to the the back exhaust fan ca it be?

magic scarab
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Height is how high is goes from the board

magic scarab
golden panther
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i want to replace the stock cooler with Cooler CPU ID-Cooling SE-224-XT Black

golden panther
magic scarab
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Small board

golden panther
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to the fan without creating problems

magic scarab
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A few millimeters away at least would be ideal

golden panther
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73 x 120 x 154 WxDxH

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i could go with the basic cooler that is a little smaller

topaz blaze
#

hi

unique lilyBOT
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Rea1MikePence#4357 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

topaz blaze
#

Got my cpu cooler and it’s massive

topaz blaze
cinder nymph
#

I got a serious question. When i opened up my computer to clean it, I dropped a RAM stick, but when I dropped my RAM stick it landed on the exposed circuit board on top of my GPU and then bounced off onto the table. That RAM stick miraculously broke (hooray) but something weird happened. Now my computer idles at like 60C on normal cooling as opposed to 35C. All my games run the same (except games that need for RAM), but could the drop of the RAM or the impact on the GPU be what's affecting me? because I didn't see any damage but idk, I don't think having 8GB less of RAM would raise my idle temps by 30.

floral field
#

and gpu temp or cpu?

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most gpu's have a fan stop feature

#

look if they're spinning

knotty sparrow
#

Less memory means the CPU needs to work a bit more to move things around the page file, and it has less bandwidth to work with in single channel mode

cinder nymph
#

though I don't have a sensor on my GPU

cinder nymph
knotty sparrow
#

An impact on the PCB of the GPU isn't going to affect CPU at all, it's strictly memory size/bandwidth related

cinder nymph
dawn hawk
low pumice
#

You definitely have a sensor on their somewhere

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You may or may not have one for vram, or directly on die, but there's usually one in there somewhere for gpu die

vivid citrus
#

Legit most any gpu has a sensor, maybe look at hwinfo64 to find it

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My gt120 has one so you will have one too

cinder nymph
#

AWCC sucks

low pumice
#

Awcc?

dawn hawk
#

Alaska Wildlife Conservation Center

topaz blaze
#

any decent aios that are like $80ish?

low pumice
#

Why aio at that price point

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Go fuma 2 for 60$

knotty sparrow
#

At that price range a good air cooler is better

vivid citrus
#

@cinder nymph speccy or hwinfo64 will do the trick

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Hwinfo64 is more detailed but more confusing

cinder nymph
low pumice
#

Ew

#

Get hwinfo64

vivid citrus
#

What the heck- why Alienware command center get that trash away

#

Its bloat basically

cinder nymph
#

I have an Alienware Aurora R9

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came with the PC

topaz blaze
#

worth it to get an AIO, Im leaning so much onto an aio

low pumice
#

No

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@topaz blaze fuma 2 if you are ever asking yourself about being worth it

rare cypress
#

I'm looking to get into water cooling. Should i start with my old builds them work myself up? Or just yolo it with my main build

timid carbon
#

jusr remember to put ome plastic over ur graphics card so it wont get damaged if there is a leak

rare cypress
#

Sounds good

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Ill try

cold island
#

fuma 2 nice

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it doesnt have really fast fans tho it wont get max cooling but its quiet

cobalt ledge
#

What's the best software tool for keeping track of CPU and/or GPU temperature?

low pumice
#

hwinfo64

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@rare cypress just remember it's a huge cash drain, 250$ minimum for full loop

rare cypress
#

oof

low pumice
#

mininum as in extremely rare mininum, usually closer to like 400$

placid sedge
#

Should i mount my radiator fans facing outwards so the radiator is facing inwards, or the other way round

knotty sparrow
#

If you mount it on the front, have them pull air in. If you mount to the top, have them blow out.

knotty eagle
#

You want to push air through them

placid sedge
#

Ok

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thanks

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And should my tubes be on the top ot bottom

knotty sparrow
#

That part doesn't matter much, as long as the highest point of the radiator is above the pump (usually on the CPU block) so you're not sucking air into the pump.

#

There's slightly less air noise if you do a front mount with tubes down.

placid sedge
#

Ok

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Ok

elfin cove
#

Are standard AMD CPU coolers actually decent? No plans for overclocking or anything, just normal use with casual gaming. I’ve heard they can be a bit noisy but I have no idea how well they do the job since I’ve rarely seen people use em

knotty eagle
#

Prism, yes. Wraith, it's worth an upgrade

dawn hawk
#

stock coolers will adequately cool the cpu at stock clocks

knotty eagle
#

Wow. jay endorses some cheap fans

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Covid affecting his brain. XD

dawn hawk
#

he had a brain?

elfin cove
#

Gotcha ty

knotty sparrow
#

Eh, not really feeling the controller on those fans. I've already got mystic light set up how I like.

blazing dew
#

is the freezer 34 esports better than the nh-d15? I saw somewhere it was

low pumice
#

Uh what

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No

knotty eagle
#

XD

knotty eagle
knotty sparrow
#

True. Problem 2 for me though is I have 6 fans and 2 of them are 140s lol

knotty eagle
#

Oh for sure but for someone wanting RGB on a budget, I will remember this as a semi-viable option

dawn hawk
slender pagoda
#

What are some good 360mm AIOs?

low pumice
#

What CPU?

slender pagoda
#

10900k

low pumice
#

Arctic freezer ii, EK-AIO, Lian Li galahad are the 3 I'd look at, all should be around 150$

slender pagoda
#

Freezer, NZXT, and corsair were my final 3

low pumice
#

NZXT and Corsair are very meh

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just standard asetech, gets outperformed by the three I listed

slender pagoda
#

Time to check prices!

atomic jetty
#

Corsair’s newest aios arent asetek but I forget what they are

#

I thought Galahad used a coolit pump but I could be wrong

topaz blaze
#

for an RGB AIO

#

the fans perform well its just the AIO itself

low pumice
#

Again, they're very meh

#

Not bad

#

Just very meh in general

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Like if your can get a NZXT Z73 for 50$, hell yeah it's good

topaz blaze
#

na NZXT is bad no matter what

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would gladly pay 100$ for the dif between a liquid freezer ii and a nzxt

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stupid software exclusive to them

low pumice
#

lol

vivid citrus
#

I like nzxt aios but their cases are kind of overrated hotboxes

atomic jetty
#

I like Corsair’s aios for the look but I think it’s only worth it if you’re like decking out your whole case in Corsair fans

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Otherwise it feels like a lot to deal with w/r/t the Corsair hubs n stuff

cinder nymph
knotty sparrow
#

Sweet! Glad it's working for you now

elfin current
velvet rain
#

just get a liquid freezer

elfin current
#

Whaaa?

knotty eagle
#

Arctic Freezer II

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Unless you're going all white

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In which case, get a white whatever

elfin current
#

Yeah, doing the white build

velvet rain
#

galahad?

elfin current
#

But for a white cooler, is this bad?

barren hamlet
#

i need some cheap thermal paste any reccomendations?

#

ping me with response

twin urchin
#

arctic mx4

low pumice
#

Nt-h2

barren hamlet
#

can you send a US amazon link

twin urchin
#

you can put arctic MX4 into amazon and find a bunch

low pumice
barren hamlet
#

i just need a little for a motherboard replacment

twilit abyss
low pumice
#

It's basically top 2 for white AIOs, it's between ek-aio and galahad for best performing white aio

twilit abyss
#

Ek has a white?

low pumice
#

I thought they did

twilit abyss
#

I don’t see one

low pumice
#

Guess I'm going crazy again. Ek-aio itself does have white fan blades

knotty eagle
#

Yeah, the Vardar fans

low pumice
#

@knotty eagle aren't all ek fans called vadar? There's so many varients lol

knotty eagle
#

I think so?

quasi hawk
#

i i got a temperature problem here

#

anyone got some information for me?

knotty eagle
#

wat

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Don't use Corsair Link

#

Try HWINFO64 to confirm it

#

Start it in sensors only mode

quasi hawk
#

alright

knotty eagle
#

If HWINFO64 confirms it, then you have a problem

knotty sparrow
#

127 on the motherboard? No that can't be right with all the other temps looking like idle. Either bad software or bad sensor if it still looks like that in hwinfo.

knotty eagle
#

Or the fan stopped if it's X570

quasi hawk
#

ok Temp seems fine with that software

#

Thanks

#

CPU running at 60c all the time

knotty sparrow
#

Idle temp isn't as important as load temp, what's the max you get?
If it's idling high you can adjust the fan curves but it doesn't technically matter much.

quasi hawk
#

Saw it reached 85 earlier today and the whole chassie was hot

knotty sparrow
#

Is that corsair software accurate? You've only got 2 case fans?

quasi hawk
#

Nah 7 + CPU

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And a few fans inside few hours ago to try to increase air flow

knotty sparrow
#

Are the fans set up like this?

ideal.png
knotty eagle
knotty sparrow
#

Just something I grabbed from Google a while back

dawn hawk
#

i like them drive bayz

#

bayz 4 dayz

feral pivot
#

Is cooler master a good brand? For cooling... lol

latent kelp
#

For air cooling? They're good for the price they're providing.

#

Otherwise, people would point you to Noctua or Scythe Fuma.

feral pivot
#

Thx, im wondering about aio coolers, and fans.

#

I like rgb lol. And cooler master looks like a pretty good brand, figured I'd ask the community

latent kelp
#

They're not the best, but they're solid.

#

I have an Hyper 212 RGB, which gives me the essential needs.

knotty eagle
#

Gammax 400 for a lower end cooler. beats the 212 AND a noctua cooler

latent kelp
#

And I disagree with that recommendation.

knotty eagle
#

Can't disagree with facts

missing-image.png
#

beats the Noctua U12S for $20 XD

#

And the 212 also

latent kelp
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

low pumice
#

Gammaxx 400 is our ideology now eh

knotty eagle
#

Eh

#

I prefer the ID Cooling TBH

#

But it's out of stock everywhere

low pumice
#

Me too, but yea

knotty eagle
#

SO Gammax until it comes back

low pumice
#

Gammaxx 400 op still though

knotty eagle
#

Indeed

#

NGL, just got my wife a 10600K combo and got a GAMMAX to go with it LOL

low pumice
#

lol

topaz blaze
#

just to double check

#

the DH15 is still the best right?

#

Compared to like 224xt, or even the scythe fuma2

knotty eagle
#

I mean, may as well go AIO at that point

#

Arctic Freezer II

topaz blaze
#

My main issue i see with AIO, is pump failure

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and corrosive.

#

Just sounds like too much work, and clearance of AIO on my rig is iffy

knotty eagle
#

Meh

knotty sparrow
#

If you get a known reliable AIO you don't need to worry about the pump

knotty eagle
#

That's all stuff from people that buy cheap garbage

low pumice
#

@topaz blaze Go NH-U12a

#

tbh, I personally don't really want water in my pc either way, so

topaz blaze
knotty eagle
#

Yeah after 7+ years

#

Bout the same time the fans take a dive

low pumice
#

after a decade, an air cooler will definitely be in much better shape than an aio

topaz blaze
#

and like I read even artic freezer ii had someone with a pump failure

#

idk im sorta scared.

low pumice
#

@knotty eagle not with Noctua fans >:D

knotty eagle
#

UH huh, even those fail

low pumice
#

MTBF was 11 years iirc

#

so

knotty sparrow
#

Any moving part is going to fail eventually

knotty eagle
#

Mean time

topaz blaze
#

I guess I can try

low pumice
#

Yes, MTBF of constant usage

topaz blaze
#

don't buy clc right

knotty eagle
#

If you don't want to don't

#

Get a noctua then

low pumice
#

11 years average against 7 years sounds like a difference

topaz blaze
#

CLC?

#

Closed, Loop Cooler?

#

Like you can't refill it

#

or something

knotty sparrow
#

I'm expecting my AIO to outlive my motherboard

topaz blaze
#

and number 2, what about corrosion?

knotty sparrow
#

By then it's time for a system overhaul anyway

topaz blaze
#

I also read that certain aios can inhibit it

knotty eagle
#

Cuz we all know MTBF claims are accurate

topaz blaze
#

is that a worry?

low pumice
#

ofc, but Noctua is bae

topaz blaze
#

CLC and corrosion

knotty eagle
#

wat

#

CLC doesn't have corrosion issues

topaz blaze
#

no

knotty eagle
#

That was Enermax TR4 coolers

topaz blaze
#

Some AIOS can have corrosion issues

#

But should I avoid CLC?

#

not cause of corrosion

knotty eagle
#

no

topaz blaze
#

because i can't refill it?

#

or smth

#

I read that they are like sealed and prefilled

knotty eagle
#

CLC good. Fans that come with CLC noisy

#

You're too worried about this

#

Just get a Noctua

low pumice
#

btw, the mtbf turns out to be 17+ years

topaz blaze
#

lol

low pumice
#

150,000+ hours

topaz blaze
#

like idk what

low pumice
#

And I think the issue with clc is usually not corrosion, it's evaporation iirc?

topaz blaze
#

Uhhh

#

wait

#

isn't point 5 redudant?

#

AIOS can leak

knotty eagle
#

That's not really accurate

topaz blaze
#

thats what I would assume

#

cause i just realized

#

its from 2016

#

number 1

#

and number 2, aios can leak also

#

and destroy components.

knotty eagle
#

The odds of that happening are really low

topaz blaze
#

and finally last question. Tubes upright?

knotty eagle
#

Like I said, you're paranoid so get a noctua

topaz blaze
#

or the weird C shape

#

LOL

#

wait the U12a is like almost identical to the dh15?

#

just 20 dollars cheaper

low pumice
#

U12a is a slightly smaller D15 that doesn't interfere with ram, and nf-a12x25 fans are bae

topaz blaze
#

Oh.

#

Then again, AIO's would help my fan issue lol

#

I have so many fans, that I ran out of headers.

#

when one AIO can control, what? 3 fans?

low pumice
#

uh what

#

aio still will use a cpu_fan header

topaz blaze
#

but I can get rid of 2 of my fans

low pumice
#

NH-U12a should come with a splitter too, so that'd only use 1 cpu_fan header

topaz blaze
#

alright. Prob get noctua, AIO if I really want the clocks

#

lol

#

and I guess I'll watch the GN video on AIO tube direction

knotty eagle
#

wait what?

topaz blaze
#

Wait what?

knotty eagle
#

I'm using some calculator that says 200,000 hours is 20 years XD

topaz blaze
#

Oh.

#

I was wondering if you meant something with my comment on GN

#

lol

#

I'd assume GN knows about AIOs

#

the tube direction vid

knotty eagle
#

owait, that's right LOL

#

8700 hours in a year

#

200,000 hours

#

22 years

topaz blaze
#

lol

knotty eagle
#

Wanna know why that's important?

#

It's not

topaz blaze
#

Oh?

#

tube direction?

#

Well thats helpful

#

"Depends on the AIO"

knotty eagle
#

not really

topaz blaze
#

So tubes down?

low pumice
#

tube direction is just

knotty eagle
#

As long as the top of the radiator is above the pump

#

It's fine

low pumice
#

yep

knotty eagle
#

So the air gets trapped ABOVE the pump

topaz blaze
#

oh

#

yeah. that makes sense

knotty eagle
#

and the pump isn't the highest point in the system

low pumice
#

basically, top mount over front mount

#

either tube orientation on front mount is slightly less than optimal

topaz blaze
#

RIP can't mount it in the front of my case

#

might need to do measurements for top

low pumice
#

mount it on top

#

top mount is better

topaz blaze
#

Oh no

low pumice
#

:P

knotty eagle
#

Exhaust top mount

topaz blaze
#

can AIOs survive hardwater

knotty eagle
#

Pump always flooded that way

topaz blaze
#

Cali is filled with hard water.

knotty eagle
#

wat

#

They come prefilled

#

You don't fill them

topaz blaze
#

Ive watched people refill them?

#

Hmm

#

like if liquid is getting way tooo old

#

i thought AIOs have a fill port?

knotty eagle
#

90% of AIO's don't have a fill port

#

Well, probs not 90% but hardly any have a fill port

#

Gotta fill through the cooling plate

low pumice
#

I think galahad might actually have a fill port, or I'm going crazy again

knotty eagle
#

Oh, I'm sure some do

#

Most don't

topaz blaze
#

Wait

#

so you would pour water in the fans?

#

lmao

#

or the otherside?

knotty eagle
#

what

#

no

low pumice
#

no

knotty eagle
#

The cooling plate

#

The part that touches the CPU

#

Yo uunscrew it

#

and fill there

topaz blaze
#

OH

knotty eagle
#

BUt

topaz blaze
#

like a tube

#

Ah

low pumice
#

oh I think I saw a fill port on the rad lol

knotty eagle
#

AIO's don't use water

#

They use Propylene glycol

topaz blaze
#

... Damn

low pumice
#

propolyne glycol

knotty eagle
#

with a hint of water

low pumice
#

my spelling is close enough

topaz blaze
#

I really don't remember correctly lol

knotty eagle
#

Same stuff I run in my motorcycles

topaz blaze
#

i thought they used water lmao

#

and you fill them up

#

Im such a fool.

knotty eagle
#

nah, it's a kind of anti freeze

low pumice
#

custom loops use distilled water most of the time

knotty eagle
#

non-corrosive, etc

topaz blaze
#

Oh.

#

So thats why people can sometimes might get corrosion

knotty sparrow
#

TBF they are referred to as "water cooling" so common mistake there

knotty eagle
#

Well, you best have some additive with that distilled water

low pumice
#

yea true

topaz blaze
#

fill up aio without antifreeze

knotty eagle
#

else bad things happen

low pumice
#

usually with some anti-fungus and stuff

topaz blaze
#

And then

#

water makes fungi

#

and you bad

#

That makes sense. Ah thanks

knotty eagle
#

By the time you see that in the tubing

topaz blaze
#

Also now how do I measure my rig to fit an AIO lul

knotty eagle
#

Your cold plate is already borked

topaz blaze
#

My case has very specific clearance

knotty eagle
#

Get case name

#

Read manual

topaz blaze
#

Oh. will it prob say ram height

#

cause I got LPX ram 🤷‍♂️

#

which is good ig

knotty eagle
#

Uh

#

ram height doens't matter with AIO

#

ram clearance to top of case matters

knotty eagle
#

INteresting thing I noticed

#

The brackets it uses a lot times go directly over VRM's or caps. The mounting screw can short on them

topaz blaze
#

Wait let me guess

knotty eagle
#

Just a heads up

topaz blaze
#

Oh

#

For only gammax?

#

wait so....

#

Uhh what was i gonna ask

#

damn i forgot lol

#

Ohj

#

Oh

#

Are all aios pumps on the outside or whatever

#

cause of aseteks patent.

#

the pump on the block.

knotty eagle
#

Pump is either in the block if Asetek or outside the block if not

topaz blaze
#

Thats why ah.

#

I thought it was cause of Asetek's patent yeah.

knotty eagle
#

yep

topaz blaze
#

Aight. Thanks.

topaz blaze
#

Huh

#

@low pumice apparantly h150i holds up pretty well against freezer ii

#

they're same price so

#

🤷‍♂️

west venture
#

Hi, what u guys think about this AIO

topaz blaze
#

Clone of the H150i

atomic jetty
#

seems a little expensive for a 360mm aio

#

probably works fine, something like a lian li galahad or arctic liquid freezer II might give you better temps for a little less money

vivid citrus
#

I would go arctic for my money

quasi hawk
#

I hate radiators. They always make it hard to close the chassie so i have to force it in somehow

topaz blaze
#

h150i would perform better

topaz blaze
#

your preference of RGB or no RGB

topaz blaze
low pumice
#

@topaz blaze mans got no charts >:(

#

@topaz blaze also, GN does have a H150i review, here, even though it's one chart 40dBA noise the other is 35dBA, keep in mind where X62 stands.

corsair-h150i-pro-40dba.png
#

Freezer ii charto

1_arctic-liquid-freezer_3950x-35db.png
topaz blaze
#

idk why

low pumice
#

@topaz blaze don't have time to really watch the video, but I'd still say freezer ii, ek-aio, and galahad over h150i for numbers

topaz blaze
#

vid had both at same

low pumice
#

could just be up to run to run variation

topaz blaze
#

yeah

#

im surprised 240/280mm are cooling a 3950x at 200W that well kekw

#

Could also be h150i has a different design in some aspects compared to h115/h100

topaz blaze
#

water cooling is expensive af

jagged chasm
#

anyone know a really good cpu cooler under $200

#

(aio)

knotty eagle
#

arctic freezer ii

#

Lian Li Galahad

#

EK AIO

west venture
#

supp fam

#

actually heard about that artic frezzer ii but my build is withe

#

white*

#

any AIO in withe u can recomend??
360mm radiator if possible

#

that lian li Galahad looks and has nice temps

knotty eagle
#

Yeah for a white build it's a good choice

west venture
#

the lian li

#

galahad?

knotty eagle
#

Ye

#

I don't think the others are available in white

cold island
#

spraypaint

topaz blaze
knotty eagle
#

@low pumice HA! Love this lol. 212 is so overpriced. New favorite? XD The results might surprise you on a 5900x. Sure made my jaw drop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LDz-uDKoJo

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atomic jetty
#

barnacle boy meme

#

THE $30 AIR COOLER
WITH FIVE HEAT PIPES

vivid citrus
#

Oh please

#

@atomic jetty i would only yankee with no brim one of these suckers

#

If its not obvious i am a big aliexpress fan

knotty eagle
#

Yea, 83C is a bit hot for a CPU

#

While it's better than the stock Prism, no thanks

vivid citrus
#

True

#

But that is on a 3950

#

With a 17$ cooler

knotty eagle
#

3900x

vivid citrus
#

Close enough

#

Both on the extreme high end

low pumice
#

@knotty eagle heh, nice cheap air coolers are nice

knotty eagle
#

5900X at 67C

#

That's impressive

topaz blaze
frosty shuttle
#

DEEP COOL GAMMAXX 400 V2 good for i5 processors?

#

My cpu is i5 10400f

knotty eagle
#

Yes

#

Better than the Hyper 212

frosty shuttle
#

Kk

vivid citrus
#

@topaz blaze well compared to the steam top used CPU list

#

I would say they are better than at least 90% of cpus there at LEAST

topaz blaze
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still wouldn't be extreme though

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its not flagship

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anymore

vivid citrus
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Well true

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But some would kill for one

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Even still

near wadi
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Kind of regretting a tower cooler (Noctua NH-U14s) just because it's so huge and clunky and debating an AIO pump. How hard would it be to re-sell the Noctua and exhaust fans I put on the top of my case do you think? Only about 2 months old. Or would I basically just be trashing them because return value would be meh

atomic jetty
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Noctua stuff shouldn't be difficult to sell considering their reputation for performance.

near wadi
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Cool, thanks.

worn loom
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Is it normal for a nzxt z53 aio cooler for it to make a electrical buzzing noise in the radiator when playing games?

knotty sparrow
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It depends on the exact noise but it's probably just the pump ramping up

atomic jetty
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Pump shouldn’t ramp up

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AIO pumps run constant

knotty sparrow
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Without adjusting the fan curve on my MSI board the default pump speed is around 20%

atomic jetty
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If you hear it from the radiator it could be something with one of the fans or maybe water gurgling

topaz blaze
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Uhh don't think so.

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AIO's normally do stay constant

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thats why "AIO PUMP" runs at 100% sometimes.

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I have my fan plugged into it lol

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and never changes

knotty sparrow
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It depends on your board but why would it have a PWM header if it was just going to run 100%

atomic jetty
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If your pump runs at 20% at idle and ramps up under load I want to say you don’t have it configured correctly

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‘Cause that’s just not how they’re supposed to work

knotty sparrow
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I agree with that, that's why I said "default" it runs 20%

topaz blaze
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Ivan

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you sure the buzz isn't your psu

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lol?

worn loom
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Ive been hearing it from both ends

topaz blaze
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Yikes.

worn loom
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I played a game on it for the first time yesterday and it was kinda loud the radiator

topaz blaze
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Oh my correction

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It should be at 100, but you can adjust the fans

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and 100 normally for constant pressure flow

knotty sparrow
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Bad power from the wall? Could be causing some electrical noise 🤷‍♂️

topaz blaze
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No idea. I thought it might of been his RM850X unit

ruby jackal
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anyone have any experience with Apevia case fans?

topaz blaze
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But now he has more buzzing

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🤷‍♂️

knotty sparrow
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The RMx ones are really solid A tier, I have the 650

topaz blaze
topaz blaze
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especially 850w

worn loom
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I will most likely replace the psu later on and see what happens next

topaz blaze
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850w V2 is the one I have

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"Grey label"

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Its the one where they include jap caps.

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and seems to be rated a tier

knotty sparrow
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Nice

topaz blaze
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Yes, I know Jap caps don't mean much

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but still nice its quality.

knotty sparrow
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Both the 2015 and 2018 RMx are A tier though

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But yes the V2 2018 improved on the already great design

topaz blaze
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mine was "RMX 2018" V2

vivid dirge
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I need a 360mm aio for 125 and under

knotty eagle
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Why 360?

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I'm asking because the Arctic Freezer II and EK 240mm can keep even a high end CPU cool

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And they're under $130

vivid dirge
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Idk

knotty eagle
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in that case, I'd recommend the EK 240mm if you want RGB

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Arctic Freezer II if you just want black

vivid dirge
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Rgb = FPS so I’ll get the ek

knotty eagle
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LOL!

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Sounds good

ancient gale
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I just got the Vetroo V5 on newegg cus of jaytwocentz it’s good right?

knotty eagle
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IDK, that's the only review I've seen

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It appears to be very good for $35 yeah

ancient gale
vivid dirge
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Big brain

knotty eagle
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It kept a 5900x at 67C so it's gotta be decent

ancient gale
humble star
knotty eagle
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IDK, maybe someone will test it

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First test I've seen of that 120mm cooler and it seemed good

humble star
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the V5? yeah i just figured it was similar to the SE-224-XT except with slightly better looks and RGB, and it was usually on sale for $25, so I kinda recommended it a lot. btw they also have a 360mm AIO for $99 so could be interesting if those turn out to be really good as well

knotty eagle
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Seems to be better than the SSE 224

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Im' honestly not sure I'd use an untested AIO that may leak in my system

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Rather have something thoroughly reviewed and tested full of water in my PC lol

sick cipher
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looking for a 240mm aio with silver / metallic accents. any recommendations under 150 USD

knotty eagle
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metallic? That's interesting

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I know white and black but not sure about silver TBH, lemme look

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The only other one I can find is the Cooler Master and those sometimes leak on installation from the pumps

humble star