old-cooling

[tough spade]

👍

It's totally extra but it's my kind of extra

[floral rune]

Can anyone video call me and help me with my scythe fuma 2?

[snow ravine]

I bought a Corsair H60 and it came with a screw that was messed up by the factory so i wasted my day

[topaz blaze]

Any good deals on a 3 pack of RGB 120mm fans? Send links plz

[dawn hawk]

https://youtu.be/fW3VeVe-FJg

[spiral cave]

I need help from someone, I want to overclock my ryzen 7 3800x but dont have sufficient cooling, so my question is. What kind of water cooler should I buy that will do the best job for me?

[knotty eagle]

EK 240/360mm AIO

[spiral cave]

Thanks @knotty eagle

[knotty eagle]

YW

[vivid citrus]

@spiral cave for less you can get an arctic liquid freezer and it chills your VRMs

[rich siren]

stupid AIO. gonna have to return it and go air cooled. Ah well.

recommended low profile air cooler? noctura one still best in class?

[vivid citrus]

yep

noctua is where its at

[meager oxide]

whats the best type of fan for cooling? I'm looking to get 4 140mm fans but I don't understand the different fans like "ball bearing" and such

[vivid citrus]

@meager oxide just see what noctua has

[low pumice]

Arctic P14s good lower cost alternative

[vivid citrus]

that IS true

but noctua is king

noctua is life

[meager oxide]

which noctua though

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075F2FD9T?tag=noctua0b-20 this seems really good but idk

[mossy kayak]

Is it okay to ask ARGB case fan related questions here?

[low pumice]

@meager oxide Don't buy their iPPC fans unless you're planning on stuffing it into a server, they're made to be loud asf and pulling a ton of air in a sound proof server room

[meager oxide]

yeah I figured that out lel that was close

im between just going with the phanteks already in this case or artic p14

[low pumice]

Arctic gud

[vivid citrus]

@mossy kayak yes

most of us are not anti rgb

[floral rune]

anyone here good with changing fan curves?

[vivid citrus]

making or fixing?

[floral rune]

uhm

right now im using stock everything

[vivid citrus]

that is prob fine

[floral rune]

do you know anything about tweaking bios settings?

[vivid citrus]

yes

[floral rune]

cause i havent done any of that

would you mind helping me

[vivid citrus]

I have a lot of experience in bios but dont worry about the fans

they are fine stock

[floral rune]

do you know anything about undervolting?

ive been trying to ask in #overclocking but no one replies

i just wanna tweak this new computer to run as good as possible

[vivid citrus]

undervolting will not help that

overclocking is what you want

[floral rune]

i heard undervolting the zotac cards is a good idea

cause heat bad

[vivid citrus]

ooh, you want to tweak GPU fans?

[floral rune]

yes

thing gets to 80 really fast

ive looked it up and i keep seeing people undervolting it

[vivid citrus]

hmm... i think zotac has drivers for that, most do

underclocking can be done on MSI afterburner

[floral rune]

i have msi afterburner

[vivid citrus]

ok, good

I think you can use that just look it up

[floral rune]

everytime i look it up i just get people saying undervolting

[rich siren]

There any aio units with longer, flexible tubing?

Tried with a deep cool and it was a nightmare

[mossy kayak]

I need a short explaination on ARGB. Do I need a HUB or Controller or am I asking for the same thing? How do I know if the controller/HUB is compatible with the fans?

[willow kelp]

Anyone have any ~$100 or less 240mm AIO recommendations?

[vivid citrus]

@mossy kayak well, it depends on the brands.

@willow kelp https://pcpartpicker.com/product/c4MTwP/arctic-liquid-freezer-ii-240-563-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00046a

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/qP3mP6/enermax-aquafusion-240-798-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-elc-aqf240-sqa

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kbhj4D/cryorig-cpu-cooler-a40

All good choices for AIO. For sheer preference go arctic, but they are simmerlar. The entermax goes good with an RGB vibe and the cryorig looks pretty cool as well

[harsh orbit]

whats a good budget cpu cooler

[azure crown]

the amd stock cooler

corsair A500 on sale and really cheap rn

[harsh orbit]

not buying parts now so

[azure crown]

then ignore the A500

it will probably go back to being overpriced junk soon

[harsh orbit]

ah

[azure crown]

the mugen 5 rev b is well priced

[willow kelp]

Thanks Donbot

[harsh orbit]

i was leaning towards an aio tbh

is the masterliquid ML240L rgb v2 any good

[vivid citrus]

@harsh orbit what CPU/budget/case room?

[willow kelp]

Think the CRYORIG A40 would be perfect for my case

[harsh orbit]

ryzen 5 5600x/budget $30-100, prefer to stay lower/4000d airflow,

[vivid citrus]

Ooh good case choice

[harsh orbit]

yeah

[vivid citrus]

Again, the arctic liquid freezer 240 is damn good

You can fit a dark bace pro in as well

Dang good air cooler from be Quiet!

[shadow crypt]

What is the best cooler for the Ryzen 7 5800x? I heard they run hot

[vivid citrus]

dark bace pro, noctua nh u12a

Those are good air coolers

@shadow crypt

[shadow crypt]

Wouldn't the noctua dh D15 dual tower be better? The first one you mentioned is a case?

[low pumice]

dark base pro..?

@vivid citrus you mean drp4?

[stiff crypt]

Just take a fuma 2 at that point

[willow kelp]

Is there a point to RAM cooling or

[sacred pagoda]

unless you're overclocking it, no

ram heat spreaders are mostly for aesthetics

[willow kelp]

Neat, saw a CPU and RAM water cooling AIO and just thought it was weird

I can't even get my RAM to go past 3200Mhz (3600Mhz is what they're rated at) so that sucks but not touching OC'ing

[rich siren]

Hmm was going to pick up a noctua NH-L9a-AM4, but spec sheet says it can't handle a 3700x 😕

Need something low profile... Any recommendations if I can't do the noctua?

Don't plan on overclocking at all

[low pumice]

Try NH-U9s

NH-C14s will work too

[rich siren]

Hmm the height is what I'm trying to avoid

[low pumice]

U9s is fairly slim still

C14s too

iirc around the 120mm mark with both

[rich siren]

Wonder if I'd have luck with a smaller aio unit.

Radiator placement keeps being the issue. My best place is bottom of the case, but would be well below the cpu

[gritty comet]

I feel you. Best place was top of case as exhaust but my mobo blocks it somehow 😦

[rich siren]

I'm thinking a 120mm aio unit may work. Wish I had a way to test

[knotty eagle]

120mm AIO with a 3700x?

[rich siren]

Yeah

Test Case fitment wise

[knotty eagle]

Mmmmm.......i you want max boost clocks, best to go 240mm

120mm gets overwhelmed quickly

[dawn hawk]

120mm bad

[rich siren]

Being built inside a desk drawer, not planning on much if any OC

[knotty eagle]

Well, AMD does auto oc

So, it clocks up until it gets to X temp or X wattage, then clocks down until it stabilizes

The TDP rating on them is only at stock clocks, not boost clock. Crappy informational marketing

[rich siren]

Retuning a deep cool 240 right now. Couldn't get it placed

[knotty eagle]

mmmm

Too think or just too large period?

*thick

[rich siren]

Think the biggest issue was tubing. Too short and not flexible enough to go where I need it

[knotty eagle]

That's going to be an issue with just about every AIO TBH

[rich siren]

Yeah

[knotty eagle]

Here's another thing

The reason they use the less flexible hose is so the water doesn't evaporate over time

The more flexible hose, IE rubber, the more the liquid will evaporate out

[rich siren]

That's what I'm working in

[knotty eagle]

Ok, how much room do you have?

Because the stock WRAITH coolers are honestly pretty good

[rich siren]

Was trying to place the rad opposite of the mb

[knotty eagle]

These: https://www.amazon.com/Wraith-Cooler-Processor-AM4-Connector/dp/B07GKRR5WR/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=AMD+Wraith+Cooler&qid=1609134804&sr=8-1

[rich siren]

I've got the stock prism

[knotty eagle]

It came with a Prism?

Oh yeah

[rich siren]

3700x yep

[knotty eagle]

What's wrong with that?

[rich siren]

Honestly haven't tried it. Heard they were loud though

[knotty eagle]

Nah

I had mine on for a while before I went AIO

It was honestly fine

[rich siren]

Hmm well I am planning on foam and dampening. Maybe I'm just making it more complicated than necessary

[knotty eagle]

I think you might be

I think you should try the Prism

[rich siren]

Save myself $80 that I can put towards a gpu

[knotty eagle]

And honestly, all AIO hoses will be short so you'll have to customize something anyway

[rich siren]

Yeah. I would have loved to do a custom loop, but just isn't in the budget

And honestly totallyy unnecessary

[knotty eagle]

Perhaps

I like my AIO because the CPU heat never enters the case

I use it for a top mount exhaust

[rich siren]

Nice. I haven't figured out what I'm doing for a top yet 😆

[knotty eagle]

Oh, it's not going in a desk?

[upbeat quiver]

I see an arrow on one of the 4 pins of my rgb hub, does the side with the white wire go there?

[azure crown]

the side with the arrow goes there. is this for a 5v or 12v header?

[flint goblet]

is the nzxt 240 aio x53 a good match for ryzen 7 5800x?

[upbeat quiver]

@azure crown 12v header

also I have this problem where the fans adapter doesn't seem to clip properly to the pins its loose af

[rich siren]

It is. Was thinking about still putting a lid on it though

[rich siren]

@knotty eagle prism fits pretty well. Hides my RGB ram, but oh well. Will still give the insides some glow.

[iron jasper]

do u need the corsair lighting node commander thiingy for corsair fans like the ql 140?

[twin urchin]

yes

[rich siren]

recommendation for argb 140mm fan? Was thinking 200mm, but looks like slim pickings

[muted basin]

I’ got a 240mm aio from my girlfriend for Christmas, and I’m wondering if it’s worth putting in the new aio in my build rn. I got a ryzen 5 3600x and the cooler I’m using now is Arctic freezer 34 esports duo

I’m also upgrading to 5800x soon hopefully be wondering if I should just save it till then

[knotty eagle]

Save it for the 5800x

[manic fractal]

The 5800x is the same AM4 socket as the 3600x so you can get it now if you wanted and then just clean off the thermal paste with rubbing alcohol or something similar and use it with your new CPU. Depends when your upgrading tho cause AIOs have a lifespan of 2-4 years (mainly cause of the pump).

[muted basin]

Yea I was thinking of it so I’ll probably end up installing it when I get home

[sacred pagoda]

the air cooler you have rn is plenty for a 3600x

[manic fractal]

Yea so as long as you make sure to have thermal paste on hand when you upgrade to the 5800x and rubbing alcohol to clean off the old paste you should be all set to go. I would assume your just upgrading the CPU in the new build so really easy change.

[muted basin]

Yea I am and I think I’ll have just enough paste to add for the aio but I can always get some more thermal paste before I upgrade

[manic fractal]

Exactly easy enough upgrade

[knotty eagle]

AIo might come with paste

pre-applied, just an FYI

[muted basin]

Nah I had a look in it and it doesn’t come with any

[knotty eagle]

👍

[rich siren]

Check this out on @Newegg: ARCTIC P14 PWM PST - Pressure-optimised 140 mm Fan with PWM & PWM Sharing Technology (PST) https://www.newegg.com/arctic-cooling-acfan00125a-case-fan/p/N82E16835186220?Item=9SIA2W08JE1764&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-9SIA2W08JE1764-_-12292020

These the recommended arctic fans?

[vivid citrus]

That looks right

[rich siren]

Surprised I can't find any fans with reverse flow, so I'm not staring at the back of my intake fans

[flint goblet]

hi guys is the nzxt 240 aio x53 a good match for ryzen 7 5800x?

[vivid citrus]

Maybe think about the x63

But i think so

It was on the approved list

[floral rune]

Anyone know my my 3rd case fan turns off if I go into the bios

[delicate glacier]

Guys the cooper in the pump i did put my hands on it will it effects the thermals

[manic fractal]

Which fan is your 3rd (Front/Rear/Top)? How are they connected together (3 fans connected to one by a splitter/individual connections to the motherboard)?

[floral rune]

@manic fractal it's a front fan and all of them have their own connection to the motherboard

I have an asus tuf gaming x570 plus mb

It's plugged into cha fan 3

[manic fractal]

I would assume its cause of the temp sensors on the motherboard

Also wierd that it would only do it when you enter bios tho. Try getting a 3 -> 1 fan adapter and just use them as "1" fan

[floral rune]

Since its just in the bios its probably not a problem though

right?

[umbral tendon]

What's the best fan (NON water Cooling) that will fit the Z490UNIFY with a 10900KF and 4 Trident Z RGB me? ideas?

[dawn hawk]

dark rock pro 4

[low pumice]

no no no

NH-U12a >:D

@dawn hawk dunno if DRP4 will fit trident z rgb sticks

[dawn hawk]

cut the rgb off

[low pumice]

neva

u12a will fit tho

[umbral tendon]

Researching those. Believe I've seen them.

[twin urchin]

MUGEN 5!!!!

actually

im gonna go with Dark Rock (not-pro)4

[steady aurora]

What would be a good cheap cooler for a ryzen 5 3600?

[umbral tendon]

Here's what I found: The picture of the DRP4 actually shows the fan hanging over Trident RGB sticks, just like I have. The Dark Rock Non PRO still has the fan hanging over the RAM but has only that one fan. The U12A Isn't spec'd for the LGA1200 socket, but the U12S is. The difference is that the U12A has two fans, the U12S has a single fan. All of these coolers have some amazing reviews. I have not decided yet.

Thanks for the feedback! It's likely that I'll go with the DRP4.

[steady aurora]

I do not want to spend very much because I am just going to use a ryzen 5 3600 for a place holder

[low pumice]

@umbral tendon U12a supports lga1200, just like u12s

From Noctua's own website:

[umbral tendon]

That must be a newer spec sheet than what I saw. Is Noctua a better product than Be Quiet? The sale price of Be Quiet is a lot better.

[low pumice]

Noctua's reliability is godly, and Noctua offers free upgrade brackets for any new sockets

NH-U12a uses the NF-A12x25, which is arguably the best consumer fan on the market in terms of noise normalized performance

[dawn hawk]

not just consumer iirc

just overall

[umbral tendon]

👍

[low pumice]

@dawn hawk crazy delta fans

actually right noise normalized

it's the literal best fan from testing

[dawn hawk]

i use delta fans

but theyre the best like

quiet fans

all my unifi stuff is fanmodded

whisper quiet

[low pumice]

fair

noooo noctua

[dawn hawk]

like my servers are delta and loud

networking stuff is noctua and silent

[low pumice]

Noctua website is back pog

anyways @dawn hawk my fav bit of Noctua's website is this bit
https://noctua.at/en/industrial-applications

[winged quail]

Guys I accidentally put a cable through my cpu fan and now it’s sparking and starting to smoke, it’s the sata cable what do I do please respond quick 😦

[proven solstice]

unplug the pc?

[winged quail]

Ok done what next

It’s still smoking help

[finite sun]

CALL 911

CUZ YESSS

OR IDK UR EMERGENCY THINGY

[dusk badger]

ALT + F4 quickly

[finite sun]

LMAO

Its alr unplugged

[winged quail]

I just put it out with an extinguisher what next how do I fix it

Everything is fried

[finite sun]

(◑_◑)

Maby (◑_◑)

SUE THE FAN OR THE CABLE

[austere summit]

how did a sata cable even get up there

[finite sun]

CUZ BAD CABLE SUE THEMMM

[winged quail]

Idk man this weird kid in my neighborhood built it for me

[finite sun]

SUE HIMM

[austere summit]

sata cables should be nowhere near the cooler

[winged quail]

What’s up with ur pic man

Who is that

[austere summit]

ted kaczynski

[finite sun]

Im tawny

LMAOOOOOOO

[austere summit]

why do you ask

[winged quail]

Wow Buckeye

Not cool man

Guys everything is fried please help

[austere summit]

try to RMA everthing thats fried and buy new parts

build the pc yourself this time

[finite sun]

well i will tell u wut to do but dont do cuz im so dum

SUE THE WERID KID

[winged quail]

I think I can fix this

Lemme run it under water brb

[finite sun]

SUE HIM FOR ALL U GOT

[austere summit]

i wouldnt do that

does the pc boot

[winged quail]

Why

[finite sun]

DOOO IT

[austere summit]

does it boot up

[winged quail]

Pc is not booting

This is not good

[finite sun]

O NO

[austere summit]

its fried then

[winged quail]

Please help

[austere summit]

does anything turn on

any rgb or anything

[winged quail]

No I can’t my mom will beat me if she finds out

[austere summit]

or any fans spinnig

spinning*

[winged quail]

No

[finite sun]

MABY UR POWER SUPPLY BROKE

[austere summit]

sounds like your motherboard is bricked then too

[winged quail]

Please my mom will beat me

[austere summit]

do you have a fan controller

[winged quail]

No

[austere summit]

hm

[finite sun]

O NO

[winged quail]

They were 20 dollar fans

[austere summit]

then it could either be your mobo or power supply that got bricked

[winged quail]

So not the cable running through the fan,

?

[austere summit]

i would head to a microcenter and test boot some of your parts

[winged quail]

Ok

[austere summit]

see if either your power supply or motherboard work with different parts

how long was the cpu running without a fan

[finite sun]

OK SO HERES WUT U DO SO FIRST GET A AXE AND WAIT FOR OUR MOM TO COME HOME WELL ANY WEPON THEN BE LIK BUY MEH NEW PC OR ELSE THEN DO NUTHIN IF SHE BUY OR KILL HERNIF SHE BE LIK NO NO NO

[winged quail]

I only got one fan for decoration

[austere summit]

how long was the cpu running without a fan

[winged quail]

It spins aight

About 48 hours

[austere summit]

under load?

[winged quail]

It’s been on all night and day

[austere summit]

under load or just idling?

[winged quail]

Idiling

[austere summit]

hm. your cpu is probably dead too.

[winged quail]

NO DUDE PLEASE

What do I do

Help

[austere summit]

i would just test all the parts at a microcenter

and see which ones work

[winged quail]

But they’re charred and black

[austere summit]

probably dead then

[winged quail]

No it will work

[finite sun]

Ye lol

[zinc kelp]

dont run it under water

[winged quail]

Pls

[zinc kelp]

that will make it worse

[austere summit]

yeah

[winged quail]

Ok

[finite sun]

Ge alr put in shower ...

[austere summit]

computer parts and water dont go together

[zinc kelp]

if you put it on water it will literally explode

[austere summit]

what he said

[zinc kelp]

remove the cable and cpu cooler

[winged quail]

Oh but I thought there was water cooling?

[zinc kelp]

oh

[winged quail]

Where u run water through it

[zinc kelp]

um

[austere summit]

you have a water cooled system?

[zinc kelp]

remove the sata cable

[winged quail]

Ok

Gimme one sec

[zinc kelp]

both ends

[finite sun]

He 100% trollin but this so fun

[cold island]

please dont put jokes in these channels yall

[zinc kelp]

try to boot into ur pc

[winged quail]

Ok cable removed

I’m trying no sign

[zinc kelp]

see if everything else works

try and get a new sata cable

[finite sun]

THERES A CHANCE IT NOT THO MORE LIKE 99.99999999999999283747575738% chance if troll

[zinc kelp]

ur drive might be damaged

[austere summit]

infinity it sounded like his motherboard or psu were bricked because none of the fans were spinning in his system when he tried to boot it up

[finite sun]

Send a pic of pc

[zinc kelp]

thats normal

mobos probably not bricked

probably just sata

[twin urchin]

none of this is beliveable

unless his fans are made of razor blades

[austere summit]

possibly but he said the computer was left idle for a long long time after the fan broke, im not sure what actually happens when a cpu overheats for that long

thats what i was thinking buzz

[twin urchin]

thermal throttling or eventually full shut down

[finite sun]

Well theres a change it fr

[austere summit]

thats what i thought

[twin urchin]

unless its like a Pentium 100 or something ancient

P233 MMX

!

[austere summit]

lmao

[twin urchin]

king of 1995

[winged quail]

i dont know much about pc's

[finite sun]

DID U TAKEA PIC?

[winged quail]

I can't uploa

upload

[finite sun]

Lol rip

Y

[austere summit]

cafihe how old are you\

just wondering for reference

[finite sun]

No in tawny not cafihe

[austere summit]

tawny how old are you

[finite sun]

13 mk

[winged quail]

im 7

[finite sun]

Lmao

[austere summit]

how in the world does your mom give you a pc

[finite sun]

Ok its troll

[austere summit]

and why are you watching south park

[finite sun]

WE NEED THE HAMMER

BRUH I WAS WATCHIN SOUTH PARK WEN I WAS PIKE 6

IT GODLY

[winged quail]

for Hanukkah

[finite sun]

I litterly learn everything i no from it

[winged quail]

u know south park?

[finite sun]

LMAOOO

Ofc

[winged quail]

i wanted to be like cartman

[austere summit]

well then why is your avi chef

[winged quail]

with the computer episode

[austere summit]

doesnt make sense

[finite sun]

Ur pfp is chef ofc i no kenny and kile(cant spell) cartmen( NO KITTY THATS A BAD KITTERY) and meh fav mr hanky

Drugs r bad mkay

Achahal bad mk

[austere summit]

are they though?

[winged quail]

thats not what south park says

[austere summit]

are they though?

drugs are pretty cool dude

youre just a youngster right now

[finite sun]

if u do drugs ur bad mk

[winged quail]

mk

[austere summit]

but wait until the opportunities pop up

dont do heroin tho

[finite sun]

Ye ik im just doin a reference from south park

Ye ofc

[austere summit]

cap

[winged quail]

my favorite character is mr hat

[finite sun]

LMAOOO gud memerys

I love mr hanky

[winged quail]

what does lmao mean

[finite sun]

The crismis poo

Laughing my azz off

[austere summit]

bro

[winged quail]

woah

[austere summit]

hes 7

[finite sun]

?

Soooo

[winged quail]

pls no swearing

[austere summit]

cmon dawg hes a first grader

[finite sun]

O i ment jazz mk

[umbral tendon]

Let's get back on topic.

[clever berry]

https://tenor.com/view/eat-miss-kobayashi-dragon-maid-meidoragon-gif-7889888

[winged quail]

ok so about my charred pc

[finite sun]

Yummmm coookiee

[winged quail]

what do id o

[finite sun]

i told u earlyer

Ill go copy and paste

[winged quail]

water?

[finite sun]

OK SO HERES WUT U DO SO FIRST GET A AXE AND WAIT FOR OUR MOM TO COME HOME WELL ANY WEPON THEN BE LIK BUY MEH NEW PC OR ELSE THEN DO NUTHIN IF SHE BUY OR KILL HERNIF SHE BE LIK NO NO NO

[austere summit]

dude i hate to say it, if your cpu got burnt then youre gonna need to buy a new motherboard

[finite sun]

And cou

Cou

Cpu

[austere summit]

yeah

[finite sun]

And like everthing else

Ezpz

[winged quail]

which one is the cpu and matherbord

[finite sun]

Well idk

U no wut cooler is but no cpu...

[winged quail]

the little pinz i scartched off?

[finite sun]

Ye that

Prob

Idk

[winged quail]

ok thx

[finite sun]

Anytime

[winged quail]

imma head to micro center pece out

[finite sun]

Just do wut i say befor

Nuuu

[austere summit]

cant believe this dude fried his pc

[finite sun]

WELL WEAR A MASK AND GLOVES AND REMBER TO SOCAIL DISCTASNCE

[winged quail]

i dont know stuff man im 7

[austere summit]

how hard is it to keep a cable out of a cooler

was the side panel on?

[finite sun]

very hard

[winged quail]

i thot u run itv thru

no

[finite sun]

Like as hard as somebother stuff i have

Like right next to me

I can touch it

[winged quail]

ok

[finite sun]

Its my pet rock

[finite sun]

Well a lot

Some 7 year olds pc set on fire

[ivory arch]

Hey guys, don't know if any of yall remember me. I was the guy with the leaky fans.

So I bought a deep cool cpu fan and it looks like it's supposed to connect to both the cpufan header and the j_rainbow header. Is that right? These instructions are actual poopy

[winged quail]

whatever u do dont put the cables thru the fan

[ivory arch]

Yeah I didn't plan on putting it together with my eyes closed, but thanks 😆

[twin urchin]

thats right

[umbral tendon]

trying again: has anyone put a 10900 on a z490 UNIFY and what cooling fan(s) did you use?

[vivid citrus]

@umbral tendon well, have not tried that board but i am positive it will work. And just use a standard CPU cooler and your case fans

[knotty eagle]

10900 needs some good cooling to get those boost clocks

[vivid citrus]

Noctua FTW

[knotty eagle]

Ye

Or Dark Rock

[vivid citrus]

Thats not bad either but huge

[knotty eagle]

Yep

I'd go AIO myself, save some case space

[vivid citrus]

@umbral tendon if you want help w this I can make a Pc part piker list

[umbral tendon]

I've looked at the Dark Rock and the U12A

[vivid citrus]

Both solid options

I am a noctua fanboy but they will cool abt the same

[knotty eagle]

MIght actually consider the U14 for the 10900

[umbral tendon]

The problem with AIO is my case.

[knotty eagle]

Gotcha

Although if you're space constrained, the air coolers might be an issue too

They're large

[umbral tendon]

I have Trident Z mem so they are tall, so I've kind of boxed myself in.

yes, it is a space issue, but I can go 6.75 inches tall

[knotty eagle]

WOW

The U14 is 6.5" tall lol

U 12 is 6.25

[umbral tendon]

Those will just fit

[knotty eagle]

Dark Rock about the same as the U12

[umbral tendon]

the catch is will they clear the memory

[knotty eagle]

Yeah, that I honestly don't know

That's another reason I went AIO

[umbral tendon]

then the question becomes is a two fan AIO enough for a 10900

[knotty eagle]

Yeah

A good one like the EK one

[vivid citrus]

I am a fan of the nzxt z63

Bc if i go AIO i go full AIO

[umbral tendon]

I'm an antique, I've been building PC's off and on since the 80's and this is the most difficult item I've dealt with since the start. Thank you all for the help. It looks like the U14 will fit. The EK is an easy fit but twice the cost of the nzxt. Now to decide.

[knotty eagle]

My first upgrade was a P100 to a P133

That should age me a bit

[umbral tendon]

🙂

[ivory arch]

I have some corsair case fans. It says they're 12V but they only have 3 pins. I thought 3 and 4 pins were 5V? And aren't the sys_fan headers only 5V also?

Or am I just supposed to worry about amps?

[knotty eagle]

Neither

all fans are 12 VDC

4 pin has an extra wire for PWM control

3 pin does not

3 pin fan on a 4 pin header will work but you won't be able to control speed

[ivory arch]

Oh ok thanks! Sorry for noob question lol

[knotty eagle]

no worries, ask anything you like

[ivory arch]

Lol ok so which side of a case fan pushes air out? Is it the side that doesn't have the wire?

[twin urchin]

usually the back side with the frame and wires

usually

[clever token]

So I ordered a cpu cooler that was marked with loads of things like lga1550 and things like that, the installation was Confusing as the instructions were in Chinese, and I opted to send it back as it was not the right colour anyway, on pcpartpicker it was listed as compatible with my cpu and mobo, which ik is a LGa12xx, but that option wasn't listed on the cooler. Am I being stupid? Is it actually compatible?

[knotty eagle]

What cooler

[clever token]

Antec CPU Cooler, Blue LED Fan 92mm, for Intel LGA 775/1150/1155/1156/1366 & AMD Socket FM1/FM2/AM3/AM3+/AM2+/AM2/AM4,A40

Mine is LGA12xx

So it wouldn't fit right?

[knotty eagle]

There are a lot of Antec CPU coolers. A30? C40? C400?

[clever token]

Was the c40

[knotty eagle]

It lists LGA1200 support on the website

https://antec.com/product/cooling/c40.php

[clever token]

But on pcpartpicker it's described as being compatible with the lga1200, but not on the box

Yeh I noticed, confusing huh?

[knotty eagle]

Migh tbe old stock

that didn't come with the brackets

Might be able to email Antec and see if they'd send them to you?

[clever token]

I'm kinda in desperate need of a cooler, that seems long

[knotty eagle]

No stock cooler?

[clever token]

All it has to be is less than £30, blue LED and fits 1200

I ordered the I5 10400F, not sure if it has one

[knotty eagle]

Cooler included

Don't panic, you're good

[maiden delta]

can someone explain to me why my cpu temps are so spastic. If I just stayed on the desktop and watched the temps it'll spike up and go back down. I don't have anything open besides my monitoring software

[azure crown]

boosting algorithms

when your system is doing nothing, its prolly running all cores at like 1.2ghz with zero load

then some background task has things to do, so a core or two will shoot up to like 4.2-5.3ghz, depending on whatever cpu you have

[maiden delta]

5800x. Thanks

[fading stratus]

How is the master liquid ml240l

[azure crown]

not worth buying

[twin urchin]

i think LGA1200 and LGA115xx are the same when it comes to cooler mounting

[low pumice]

they are

[distant turret]

What’s a good temp to be running at? Mine is 85-105 idle and can be 160-176F running fortnite. Should I worry it’s that high?

[low pumice]

I can't understand you if it's not in Celsius :P

[tulip pawn]

sup all

just got my 5950X gonna custom loop it , on what size of radiator u suggest (1 loop only for cpu 2nd loop for Rtx's)

[dawn hawk]

@low pumice what do u think about COOL BALL https://www.newegg.com/p/1B4-079T-06GZ5

[elder agate]

What is your ambient temperature? What is running at those temps (cpu or gpu)? What is your current cooling system ?

[elder agate]

Depends on your intentions. I have a 3950x for parallel computations. I run a 87 Thickness 360mm radiator with 3 120 mm

[elder agate]

Running parallel sims, my temp is <60 celcius

[tulip pawn]

i will probably run some 3d rendering here and there

my main rendering power today is 3 1080ti with custom loop next will be 2x3080

[elder agate]

I'd run a 360mm where thickness is up to you. 87mm is pretty wild. 54mm is medium

[tulip pawn]

so 5950X get 1 loop and 2x3080 will get sec loop

[elder agate]

No reason for a slim

Then you'll need a 360 87mm big boy

[tulip pawn]

i have slim 480 from my older pc but i cant use it with new case

i bought pc-o11-dynamic case

so i screwed that i saw it can fit only 360s

[elder agate]

How i think about its, heat is one the biggest component killer. Cooling system = long lasting system

Cooler*

[fading stratus]

Why?

[azure crown]

they're built cheaply, they don't perform that great, get a good air cooler for the same price

or pay more for a good AIO

[fading stratus]

What aio would you recommend

[granite patrol]

arctic freezer ii

if you find it in stock at a reasonable price obvs

[low pumice]

@dawn hawk looks like a zalman flower with a shroud ngl

[magic sparrow]

280mm or 360mm would probs be ideal. Make sure to get decently high-ish FPI unless thick rad

what kind of 3080 setup you going to do - vBIOS mod to have "unlimited" PL, 3p card for 450w PL, 2p card for 375w PL?

That will decide the recommended route for your GPU loop

[distant turret]

The only thing that gets hot is my CPU even tho I have a 1080ti I have fans and it seems cool

[quartz gale]

So I want to get an exhaust fan that is similar to the td500 mesh included fans, what would be the best choice?

[proven solstice]

I think they are called masterfans

actually no, those fans are specific to that case

they were based off of mf120r

[gloomy garnet]

I hope I'm not the only one that can hear an audible high pitched hum with noctua chromax fans

[mighty marlin]

What are some good cheap rgb fans on Newegg I could buy I wanna put them into a o11 dynamic mini with a 240 mm cooler also

[vivid citrus]

Corona makes some great priced ones

I also like entermax

[swift pumice]

https://youtu.be/DKwA7ygTJn0

[jovial moat]

hey, is 114C for a 5700xt normal?

[swift pumice]

your gpu is on fire

Press x to blow on gpu for better cooling

[jovial moat]

what?

[swift pumice]

@jovial moat just blow on it anything helps at that point

[jovial moat]

can you not troll plz

[swift pumice]

It’s really on fire

[jovial moat]

stop trolling

[swift pumice]

I’m not trolling

I’m telling the truth

[jovial moat]

@copper patrol this guy is trolling me

[swift pumice]

Unplug it and return

[jovial moat]

it isn't on fire

[copper patrol]

hes not trolling

114c is absured

[swift pumice]

Boi. I’m sayings it’s nearly on fire

[copper patrol]

your case either does not have airflow, or you got a defective card

or its caked in dust

[jovial moat]

hmm

[copper patrol]

114 is not normal operating temps

[jovial moat]

so my GPU is on fire?

[copper patrol]

it should be under 80

it is not literally on fire

but its close

[jovial moat]

oh

[swift pumice]

114c is like boiling point

[jovial moat]

how do I post an image? I have a screenshot

[swift pumice]

Need to rank to level 3 but I think u can post in build chat

[copper patrol]

might wanna take up baking lol

[sour mango]

Should I go EK, Alphacool, or Primochill for my watercooling needs? Or a mix of the three?

[swift pumice]

doe increasing the speed of the pump on my aio reduce the lifespan of it?

[low pumice]

@copper patrol I think TJMax at close to 110c are normal on bad 5700xt designs

[knotty eagle]

No, pump should be 100% 100% of the time

[low pumice]

@sour mango depends, and do remember to look at the materials that make up the parts

[dawn hawk]

i like primochills fluid

[steep garnet]

how many fans should i get for a phanteks p300a? (it comes with 1 pre-installed)

[vivid citrus]

@steep garnet well i would defiantly want at least one more in front and one round back. that should be all you really need

[steep garnet]

the fan that comes pre-installed is in the back, and i was thinking of getting 3 more fans that would cover the top and front.

[vivid citrus]

i would say just throw 2 more in the front and you should be good

[spiral cave]

How do I know if my cpu water cooling is working

[knotty eagle]

Pump RPM

[spiral cave]

Like the rgb is on but how do I know water is circulating

[knotty eagle]

And cool temps

[spiral cave]

My bios doesn’t recognize an aio when I click on the fans section

Is that an issue

[knotty eagle]

is it plugged into the AIO header or FAN header?

Most go to the CPU FAN header or AIO header

Or have an RPM wire to connect there

[spiral cave]

I’m not sure

[knotty eagle]

What cooler is it?

[spiral cave]

But if it wasn’t connected to an aio header would that be a problem

[knotty eagle]

Well, the purpose of the AIO header is to have the pump running at 100% all the time

Which it should be

fans should be variable, not the pump

[spiral cave]

I will check

I have an EK 240mm

[knotty eagle]

Hmmm, looks like the pump plugs into a motherboard fan header

Should be CPU FAN or AIO

So you can monitor speed there

Then the fans plug in to another Fan header

Like SYS_FAN or CHAS_FAN

[spiral cave]

I have the Asus b550 F and when I installed it I didn’t see anything hat said aio header so I plugged it into the fan header

[knotty eagle]

That's fine

Should have taken two fan headers

One will be pump

[spiral cave]

What temperature should my cpu be running at woth water cooling during gameplay?

[knotty eagle]

the other will be fans

Depends on the CPU

60-70C is generally fine

[spiral cave]

Ryzen 7 3800x

Ryzen 7s run kinda hot but idk what the average Temp with water cooling should be

So idk if it’s working like it should or not

[knotty eagle]

my 3700x runs 70C pushed hard with a 360mm AIO

[spiral cave]

Ok I’ll keep that in mind thanks

[magic sparrow]

@sour mango I'd go mostly with these options: Heatkiller, Aqua Computer, Alphacool, Bitspower, Bykski, and/or Barrow
EK is smth I'd stay away from tbf. You usually get meh products and sometimes bad products all for a premium price.

[dawn hawk]

but primochill coolant tho

[magic sparrow]

primochill might be good, idk them. but also normal water

I like my normal water

Also fun times.... 240mm+360mm rad all for a r3 3100.

[dawn hawk]

but purple sparkle juice

[magic sparrow]

but... but.... normal water tho

[twin urchin]

if by normal you mean distilled

[dawn hawk]

sorry normal water isnt purple

[magic sparrow]

I more mean free of minerals. Ionization of the water doesnt matter as it'll get ions over time. So the water Im talking about doesnt just include distilled water, but any water that is free of minerals (and also clean I guess). Tho for ease of terms, sure, we shall go distilled water.

[magic sparrow]

it is if you get the rgb fittings for technically rgb tubing

[topaz blaze]

Any decent air coolers for around 50usd? Arctic 34 esports duo looking like best deal atm

[low pumice]

A500 xD

[topaz blaze]

Joking right?

Xd

[low pumice]

I mean, Corsair A500 is a crap top tier cooler, it might still beat out mid end coolers tho

[topaz blaze]

Any reason to invest more and get an aio?

I can’t really see any advantages but I’m open to it if there are an

[low pumice]

over 50$? no

NH-U12a is worth investing into Noctua imo

[topaz blaze]

I would put like 100 in if the aio is worth

I just feel like 80$ is most I would put into air cooler

Unless u12a is going to be super worth

[low pumice]

N o c t u a

[topaz blaze]

I’m not overclocking or anything

[low pumice]

the fans are rated for 150,000 hours MTBF

that's 17 years full tilt

[topaz blaze]

What about u12s or u14s?

[low pumice]

:P

[topaz blaze]

I would def consider those

[low pumice]

U12s is overpriced as hek

[topaz blaze]

And I really like the idea of a noctua cooler

[low pumice]

u12s not worth

u14s overpriced a bit

[topaz blaze]

U14 is 63usd

Idk if I can handle anything too bulky since I’m matx and clearance is 160mm at most

[low pumice]

u14s is 165mm

rip

[topaz blaze]

Big cooler might damage mobo too no?

Lots of weight

[low pumice]

not normally

during transport it's an issue

[topaz blaze]

I mean cooler master says my clearance is 165mm

[low pumice]

but do remember good mounting is good

[topaz blaze]

But that could be cutting it

[low pumice]

just go with smth like a Scythe ninja 5 or fuma 2 tbh

Noctua is great for low profile, or high end

in the middle, their pricing doesn't make much sense

[topaz blaze]

Yeah... I’d probably be fine with mid level

Any recommendation between ninja 5 and fuma?

[low pumice]

fuma 2 over ninja 5

[topaz blaze]

Ok ty

Rip fuma 2 not in stock until Jan 21

[low pumice]

Ninja 5 is quieter because the fans are lower max RPM, but also bit less performance

[topaz blaze]

Still though... I’d be willing to put $120 into an aio with better performance than a good air

But it really seems like air cooling gives much more value

[topaz blaze]

@low pumice would the ninja fit in a matx case?

Now that I look at it again, it’s massive

[low pumice]

oh yea check ram height for ninja 5, but height is just 155mm

ninja 5 can fit ram up to 55mm

[topaz blaze]

Corsair vengeance 33mm xd

More of the horizontal length that is worrying me

Mugen 5 or fuma would be so nice but all out of stock

How does it work? Im thinking of adding more fans but can't find any pics of fan mounts inside to the side of the case.

Image i could find to represent what i mean

the 4000D doesn't seem to have the fan mounts to the right of the motherboard.

[magic sparrow]

more fans =/= more better

[topaz blaze]

I mean im thinking of changing out my air cpu cooler

to an AIO

and moving fans around because I had some extra that came free anyway.

[magic sparrow]

example: this fan barely does anything. Just barely helps with RAM

[topaz blaze]

Not that fan

The fan the right of the motherboard.

The fan to the right

Motherboard--->fan

[magic sparrow]

4000d doesnt have any fan mounts there. You need a case that does

[topaz blaze]

ah. What would you call it?

Vertical mounts?

[proven solstice]

no just different case

[magic sparrow]

Dont think they have a specific name. Example case that has them tho: Lian Li 011 Dynamic

[royal galleon]

that has what

[topaz blaze]

Cause also I’m a bit concerned about my cable management

[magic sparrow]

they want to have a fan mount to the right of and on the same plane as the mobo

[royal galleon]

why, all it is is extra exhaust

id only use a case like that for water cooling

[topaz blaze]

Then is cabling fine?

Cause it still feels messy to me cause idk

[proven solstice]

@topaz blaze hmm it looked better in that other picture

[topaz blaze]

That other picture was just a example

[proven solstice]

oh well try running gpu power cables like that picture

[topaz blaze]

just ordered the fattest air cooler on amazon

oh boy hope it fits in my small form factor case!

[fading stratus]

how is the evga clc 240mm aio?

[knotty eagle]

Cooler itself is good but fans are noisy

I replaced mine with BeQuiet fans and it's fantastic

[fading stratus]

Ok. I think Im going to buy that since its in my budget. Thanks

[mortal lichen]

I'm curious, people that buy fans other than Noctua, why? They seem like the best fans, is there a reason I'm not seeing? Is it RGB? Or the spotty availability? Or something other reason?

[knotty eagle]

$50 per fan

oof

[mortal lichen]

for a 200mm? I frequently find 140s and 120s for around $26

[knotty eagle]

I run Corsair ML140's myself

🤷

Not everyone wants to spend $30 per fan though

[mortal lichen]

prices jump on cromax from time to time as they go between batches and dont make many per batch

[low pumice]

It's just not knowing about Noctua and style preferences

[mortal lichen]

I guess I keep comparing them to RGB options (from other companies) and BeQuiet, which are frequently more expensive

[low pumice]

People don't like beige, and chromax is harder to find

and Noctua doesn't make rgb fans

and from someone starting out, brands like Corsair are much more prominent than some random company from Austria

[knotty eagle]

I mean, Vardar is an excellent fan too

but who's heard of that?

[mortal lichen]

right. I have a hafx and most of my fans are default, but every extra that I buy I get from Noctua
I guess having a hafx already disqualifies me from being too concerned about looks

[low pumice]

there's very good fans everywhere

I don't know most of em

but Nf-a12x25 does come up on top, so that's the main one I'd focus on

[mortal lichen]

thanks for the answers

dang, just saw those lianli modular fans for the first time, swanky . . .

[gritty comet]

is it ok if my only intake is a 240mm radiator fans?

my temps are fine but i want to optimize airflow

[knotty eagle]

Yes, that's fine. I personally use the AIO for exhaust

[gritty comet]

yeah i was planning on using it top mounted as exhuast but didn't check case compatibility for top mounted aios, oops. Glad to know intake works though

[knotty eagle]

Yeah, it'll be fine

[rustic bough]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WtK2z7 i cant get the cpu cooler but i can get the basic how bad would the basic be

[rustic onyx]

I've never seen that cooler before.

I'd get the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B. for the P400A

[low pumice]

sips bleach vouches for it (SE 224 xt)

I say gammaxx 400 is another fair alternative

[twin urchin]

It looks like another hyper212 copy

[dawn hawk]

hyper 212 evo

[low pumice]

@twin urchin except gammaxx 400 outperforms NH-U12s for a fraction of the price :P

[dawn hawk]

but its not noctua

0/10

[twin urchin]

I meant the id cooling one

[low pumice]

5/10 points taken off for not being noctua

[dawn hawk]

id cooling is cute

i give them smooch

[muted badger]

Well my CPU is running cooler now, I have no idea why, but I am not going to complain.

[stiff crypt]

[vivid citrus]

I like the hyper 212 evo series

Not bad price/preformence

But new best? Snowman cooler from ali express

[maiden delta]

my less than a week old 240mm ek aio is making a running water sound when I turn on the pc that slowly gets quieter until i can't hear it. Is this a concern?

[topaz blaze]

Be quiet pure loop vs EVGA clc?

[gloomy garnet]

And this is why I stick with air coolers

Dark Rock Pro 4 by BeQuiet is really good, but just bulky af

[knotty eagle]

AIO so clean tho

[red slate]

I'm using the Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo. Supposedly has similar performance to the Noctua NH-U12S while looking far less ugly and being more affordable. I'm overclocking my Ryzen 7 2700 to 4.1 GHz at almost 1.4v and the Freezer handles the 150w really well, maintaining just under 70C.

Oh, and the RAM clearance is full.

[proper sky]

Hey guys, if i get a heatsink (non-rgb fan cooler), can i replace the fan with a rgb fan?

[azure crown]

probably

[proper sky]

probably? what do i have to take into account?

[azure crown]

the size of the fan the cooler is designed to support

the size of the fan you want to use

most tower coolers dont use 120mm fans

[worthy wharf]

Guys

[wind mural]

Does anyone know if you can daisy chain the EK-Vardar EVO 120ER RGB fans rgb?

[twin urchin]

lots of them use 120mm fans

[sacred pagoda]

^yeah I would say a fair amount use 120mm

[golden copper]

Like the noctua u12 s I think

[sacred pagoda]

140 is common as well though

[golden copper]

Or is it a

[azure crown]

do they? i know a lot of the really expensive ones are, like 80+ dollars

[twin urchin]

scythe mugen5 is 120

hyper212 and all of its clones as well

[twilit abyss]

^ i thought most cooler would be 120mm

[plush totem]

Stock coolers are fine right?

[twilit abyss]

depends on which stock cooler and which cpu

[maiden delta]

You can daisy chain the rgb cables, not the power cables

[wind mural]

Thank you! I was wondering if I would need to buy an rgb hub to control them. I really appreciate the help!

[maiden delta]

np

[sly coral]

Who Knows of a Case That Fits the Ice Giant cooler?

[sacred pagoda]

Is that the thermosiphon one?

^there's the dimensions

[sly coral]

Yep.

[sacred pagoda]

I'm not experienced with calculating case/cooler clearance but I'm sure someone else here is

[sly coral]

Yeah. I’m not good at that either.

I actually ordered it assuming the old mid-tower I’m using now might have had just enough space but I obviously have no idea how to calculate clearances. Lol. It was about half and inch off.

I’m assuming I’ll need to step up to a full tower. I’m not hating that idea.

[twin urchin]

164 is most likely the height

[past parrot]

how much cooling do I need for a 5800x?

how big of a rad

[red slate]

Depends if you're overclocking. Stock operation can be handled by the stock cooler.

[past parrot]

moderate overclocking, nothing too big

[red slate]

I would recommend either a Noctua NH-U12s or Arctic Freezer 34 Esports Duo. The Arctic costs slightly less and doesn't have a brown fan. With my aggressive fan curve the Arctic keeps my R7 2700 under 70C at 4.1 GHz, which is about a 150w load.

[past parrot]

i was more of wondering what size radiator

for an aio

[red slate]

Probably 240 or 280. 280 would have higher airflow fans.

[marsh badge]

Scythe fuma is also a nice choice

[topaz blaze]

Scythe fuma (If you can find it in stock), NH D15, 280mm aio from be quiet or evga

280mm > 240mm

[sterile crown]

Could the MSI MAG CORE LIQUID 360R cool my 9600K which is overclocked to 5ghz keep it cool and not get too hot??

[quartz gale]

Stock operations can't be cooled with the stock cooler if there is not a stock cooler included lol

[dawn hawk]

imagine one really hard

[cursive hazel]

I'm looking to install an exhaust fan at the top of my case that has an open, fine mesh dust filter for my new build.. so, should I be looking for a static pressure fan or a normal case fan? which would be more efficient in pushing out air through a fine dust filter?

[knotty eagle]

Pressure for sure, just like a radiator

[cursive hazel]

ahh alright thanks, good to know

[grave furnace]

just installed noctua fans yesterday

they are very quiet at low rpm

and even at high rpm they don't make any annoying sounds, mostly just the sound of air moving

[drowsy patrol]

the cooler master ml120l v2 i have makes bubbling noises occasionally and i dont think thats good

but i dont have the boxes anymore so

[knotty eagle]

how is it mounted?

Is the radiator above the pump or below?

If it's below, that's why, air stuck in the pump. Radiator pipes need to be above the pump

[drowsy patrol]

its a 120mm so i have it installed on the back of the case

[knotty eagle]

Right, that's where most of them go

But if the tubes on the radiator are below the level of the pump, you'll get air in the pump

[drowsy patrol]

i see

when reinstalling what is the proper way to get rid of thermal paste

[knotty eagle]

Isopropyl alcohol, 90% or higher

Here's a good video on the subject

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKwA7ygTJn0

[drowsy patrol]

alright thanks

[knotty eagle]

YW

[sour mango]

Say I were to make a custom bracket and put an aio on my gpu, what size would you recommend for my 5700 xt

[knotty eagle]

240mm

[sour mango]

Thanks

[knotty eagle]

YW

Thinking about it, maybe a 280mm if you have room

225W TDP is a bit

[light lagoon]

I'm new here ... can I just ask a question? Or is there another place to ask about cooling?

[knotty eagle]

Here is fine

[light lagoon]

OK ... I am building a new PC using an LGA1200 on a MSI Pro Z490-A Pro motherboard with a Cooler Master 212 EVO V2. My question/problem is that the mounting for the Cooler Master does not tighten against the motherboard - with maybe 1/32nd" play. Since the orientation of the motherboard/cooler is vertical, I'm sure that the weight of the cooler will pull it away from the CPU. There's really not much I can try - can I just put washers in to make a tight connection? Or am I missing something? Thanks

[knotty eagle]

Mmmm, it should be snug

No washers needed

However, I'm not 100% famliar which brackets you should be using

I grabbed a manual

You should have followed the instructions for LGA 115x @light lagoon

Plastic clips on the backplate

Standoffs, plates and thumbscrews on the top?

[light lagoon]

yup

[knotty eagle]

Picutres 8-11 in the 212 manual

[light lagoon]

The shoulder of standoff is to high, making a snug fit impossible

[knotty eagle]

There are 2 sets of plates though

Are you using the right ones?

SHould be F plates

[light lagoon]

the "H" standoffs to the plastic base is the problem

[knotty eagle]

Are you sure? You're using F in this picture and not G?

Oh wait

[light lagoon]

on 09 left picture, you see the standoffs screwing into the base on the other side of the MB

[knotty eagle]

Well

[light lagoon]

this is the part that is loose ...

the rails will connect to the radiator but if the base is loose, it will pull away from the CPU

[knotty eagle]

Is your backplate on upside down maybe?

[light lagoon]

I thought of that, but the standoffs can only go in 1 way

[knotty eagle]

Hmmmm

[light lagoon]

either the stand off shoulders are too big or the MB is too thin

that's why I am thinking of washers

weird

[knotty eagle]

So, the clips that hold the pegs in

Only thing I can think of is that those aren't slid in far enough to hold the pegs down

That would create the space you're describing

C in this picture

Those need to as far in as possible to hold the peg down

[light lagoon]

there is only 1 depth, there are 3 indents for lateral placement

[knotty eagle]

Well yeah

that's what i mean, they aren't on the right indent

need to get slid onto the bracket further

[light lagoon]

"J" is held in place by "C" and "J" goes through "B"

[knotty eagle]

Needs top go further in the direction of the arrow B

Nevermind

That won't matter

[light lagoon]

I don't have a lateral problem ... it's the depth

[knotty eagle]

Ye

What I was thinking of doesn't work the way I though

[light lagoon]

you see "J" has the shoulder and just sits higher than the MB, so there is play even when "H" is as tight as it can go

[knotty eagle]

Yea, I totally get it now

Trying to figure out why though

[light lagoon]

if I put a washer under "H" against the MB, I could get it tight

either the stud is too high or the MB is too thin

I think there are fiber washers ... I hope Lowes or Menards has them

[knotty eagle]

Well

If you space the standoff though

that won't lower the cooler

[light lagoon]

I waited more than a week for all the parts and I am anxious to build this thing!

[knotty eagle]

Need to lower the cooler which means you need to lower the standoffs

Spacers should go between the backplate and motherboard if you're going to do it

Standoffs need to be flush

[light lagoon]

the cooler gets set tight with "F" and "I"

that I haven't tried yet because the base is already loose

[knotty eagle]

I understand but you need to close the distance between the CPU and the cooler. Spacing the standoff higher won't accomplish that

make sense?

[light lagoon]

Yes, I see ... the washer has to be between "B" and the MB

[knotty eagle]

You got it

That way the standoffs are tight to the board

And bring the CPU cooler down

[light lagoon]

yes

[knotty eagle]

👍

I mean, you shouldn't have to do this in the first place so be careful

[light lagoon]

assuming the rest fits

yeah, I know ... that's why I asked in case I missed something

but it seems that I didn't

[sacred pagoda]

you could also contact coolermaster to see if you have a defective part

[light lagoon]

I haven't tried putting the rails on and tightening the cooler yet because the base was loose

[sacred pagoda]

ojhhhhh

waittt

here

This person had super loose standoffs but they apparently tightened after putting on the rails and cooler

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/7g991w/cpu_backplate_is_really_loose/

[light lagoon]

Cooler Master has responded from another question I have since before Christmas

[knotty eagle]

Well, that's AMD also to be fair

[light lagoon]

AMD uses a different set of parts

[knotty eagle]

Lol, that AMD guy used the wrong standoffs

i did the same thing with min XD

[sacred pagoda]

oh that's that what it is?

[knotty eagle]

Yes

[sacred pagoda]

he said he got it to work 🤔

[knotty eagle]

Or they didn't send him the right ones

That is definitely NOT RIGHT

Even though it "works"

[sacred pagoda]

my hyper 212 came with both intel and AMD parts

[knotty eagle]

Ye, I ditched mine though

The Wraith Prism is better

[light lagoon]

yes, mine did too ... although some parts are used for both

[knotty eagle]

Yep

[sacred pagoda]

I had a Wraith spire and it was way too loud and temps were high

[knotty eagle]

yeah, the SPires are bad

[sacred pagoda]

looking back at it I probably should have reapplied thermal paste but I just went for a better cooler

[knotty eagle]

Prism's are good

[light lagoon]

well thanks for listening 😉 I am off to find some fiber washers

[sacred pagoda]

good luck

[knotty eagle]

YW

[light lagoon]

I don't want to use metal ones

[knotty eagle]

Sorry we couldn't find a more concrete solution

[light lagoon]

hey, I was just making sure I wasn't missing something. I haven't built a PC in about 10 years HAHA