old-cooling

[old jacinth]

Yeah

[low pumice]

2070ko is just a cheap 2070

[old jacinth]

Yeah, but they have got so much traction for a 2060KO so why wouldn't they do a 3060KO?

Also, I need help with an AIO actually lol

[low pumice]

I think they'll keep the marketing but not the cut down die thing, go ahead with question?

[old jacinth]

I need help with an AIO for my CPU that has RGB

[low pumice]

Okay

Rgb fans?

[old jacinth]

I will be buying those to match my case really

But I want an RGB cooling plate

[low pumice]

Oh so you want the pump to have rgb?

Like a H115i or H100i with the rgb pump is good

[old jacinth]

Yessss

I think

[low pumice]

X72 does have a rgb pump too iirc

[old jacinth]

I am not too educated with what parts of the AIO are what

But the cooling plate that goes on the CPU

Like thos

[low pumice]

That corsair logo is on the pump

[old jacinth]

I wanna have good RGB with my RAM and fans ^^

[low pumice]

Kraken x72 I think was the one with good pump rgb

[old jacinth]

Something like this

IDK about the fans

I'll look at the kraken, thanks ^^

[simple holly]

u can always change out the fans tho

[old jacinth]

I just like people's reccomenations, because specs don't say anything

[low pumice]

https://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/NZXT-KRAKEN-X72.jpg

[old jacinth]

Ohhh, the NZXT, a personal favorite

[cold island]

nzxt looks hella nice but are more expensive than others

[low pumice]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/U1IsvwJxrhQ/maxresdefault.jpg

[old jacinth]

Yeah, that's a nice look for sure

[idle tiger]

Lol oof, forumula

[old jacinth]

Can they do addressable colors?

[low pumice]

Formula?

[cold island]

not even rgb or black ram what a bad build

[low pumice]

Not too sure

Ye

[old jacinth]

I am looking for smooth colors in my RGB, not the diode look

[cold island]

yea u can

[old jacinth]

Perfect, thanks ^^

There we go, I can see the addressable colors now

[low pumice]

I wish nzxt made their cases better airflow

I have no other issues with them

Just airflow

[old jacinth]

Also, I really want a verticle RAM board, but I think they are either huge or expensive

[cold island]

i wish nzxt had more than 3 h1 cases those things are never in stock

[low pumice]

Verticl ram..?

[old jacinth]

Just a sec

[cold island]

yooo ram riser card

[low pumice]

Wouldn't that hurt performance?

[simple holly]

may i ask what is a ram riseer card?

[cold island]

vertical mount ram time

[low pumice]

Ram communicates very closely with CPU requiring high speeds afaik

[cold island]

idk but i want somebody to make one @simple holly

[low pumice]

So I dunno if a riser card of sorts can do that

[old jacinth]

Hmm, nevermind, I can't find any ecamples

I only saw it one time

[low pumice]

Maybe you just saw a ram waterblock

[simple holly]

oh ok

[low pumice]

Those exist

[old jacinth]

It was two ontop of two

[low pumice]

Huh

[cold island]

like a laptop or desktop

[old jacinth]

Like they are latter style I guess?

[low pumice]

Yea that could be laptop lol

Laptop ram are stacked sorta

[old jacinth]

But that doesn't make sense for a Mobo because the bottom would be farther away

No... It's like this here

[low pumice]

Oh?

[old jacinth]

Normal ram:

| | | |

This RAM:

| |
| |

It was two ontop of the other two

[cold island]

thats funky idk how that would even work

[low pumice]

Could be hedt 2sp board or smth

[old jacinth]

But I have only seen that once really

[low pumice]

Those have funky ram placements

Like | CPU |
| CPU |

[old jacinth]

I really am a stickler for symmetry, and I was hoping for a Mobo that has ram on both sides of the CPU

[low pumice]

Those are only either eATX or hedt

[cold island]

yea some do

mainly hedt/server

[low pumice]

Consumer boards just don't really have them

Because ram capacity of CPUs

[cold island]

z390 dark has op ram placement

[idle tiger]

🐐

90 degree 24 /8 pin as well

[cold island]

yuh those are great

[old jacinth]

I am really looking for dual side RAM

But I guess that's only for boards that do quad channel?

[simple holly]

damn 90's are great

[cold island]

z490 dark has 8 pwm fan headers

[idle tiger]

Ya, x299 dark has 2 dimms on either side of the CPU, 1 dimm per channel

[cold island]

okay no need to flex your motherboard that cost half my build

[idle tiger]

I got it free

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[simple holly]

im dead

[old jacinth]

Anybody have any mobos for me that have both sides?

[low pumice]

Damn Forks

[cold island]

hook me up with whoever gave u it lol

[idle tiger]

You can pick up an x299 dark for $200 used

[old jacinth]

Mem

*?

[idle tiger]

I'm kicking myself for not buying some for $225 new when EVGA offered it to me

[low pumice]

@old jacinth dunno if any exists for AM4

[old jacinth]

Does that work with my CPU???

[simple holly]

what are u lookin for @old jacinth

[old jacinth]

Ah ok

@simple holly dual sided RAM for my mobo

[idle tiger]

none on AM4 no, but you could get an x399 TR4 or TRX40 board

[low pumice]

(not dual rank memory, memory dimm slots on either side)

[old jacinth]

Nevermind... Sucks that they haven't thought if that

[low pumice]

Forks some might

[cold island]

usually for split ram like that its 6/8 lanes or more

[low pumice]

With 2x2

On mATX or something

[old jacinth]

That's what I want, 2x2

[low pumice]

Dunno tho

@old jacinth oh yea a thing that might bother you is that AIO tubes come out the side of the pump, not the top :p

[old jacinth]

That I don't mind

It's the RGB that bothers me

[idle tiger]

This is x399 1 dimm/channel https://www.newegg.com/asrock-x399m-taichi/p/N82E16813157801

But it's rare

[low pumice]

Talking about the 2x2 being even thing

[simple holly]

does anyone know any big ddr3 server ram sales

[old jacinth]

Nevermind guys, I guess it's not gonna happen :/

[low pumice]

eBay prob lol

[cold island]

i'd check ebay

[low pumice]

Ddr3 new is just not gonna happen at a good price imo

[simple holly]

yea but any were else i should look

[idle tiger]

How much ddr3 and what specs

You can get 128GB 1600 cl8 ecc fbdimm for <$200

[simple holly]

hol up ingame

[old jacinth]

I am trigger

[simple holly]

ok so im looking for 4-8gbs each dimm freq. irdc

all for 250 and down

[low pumice]

How much total

What freq and latency

[simple holly]

250 total budget and idc abt the freq and latency

freq maybe above 1200+

[low pumice]

How much ram total do you want

[simple holly]

idk i just want more than 8 dimms

cuz im buying a barebones server when the virus is over

[low pumice]

@idle tiger link your sources :D
I dunno where to get dem server ram

[simple holly]

srry man

[old jacinth]

I should get a kraken 240mm-280mm right?

Anything else would be too small?

[low pumice]

Yea

120mm bad

[simple holly]

holy hell

@idle tiger yoooo

[old jacinth]

Yeah, I will do a 280 then if I can

Mounted on the top?

[simple holly]

thats looks like $500 min

[idle tiger]

was with 8 x 2GB 1333 cl8 dimms tho

Not that it matters with cinebench

[old jacinth]

How do you think that would do against my CPU?

[idle tiger]

It's about two 2700x's worth of raw int /FP compute

[old jacinth]

I can't read the cinnebench score

[idle tiger]

But it draws 800 watts load lol

and 300 watts idle

[old jacinth]

Lmaoooo

So, my CPU should beat it?

I neeeeed to justify my purchase

[idle tiger]

There's a reason these chips are $1 / core

[unique lily]

darkaquarius38#0325 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[old jacinth]

Ohhh, I see haha

Oop

[simple holly]

to register all cores is a lot

[idle tiger]

Ya, have to use win 10 server to register > 32 cores

[old jacinth]

What was the score again?

[idle tiger]

Just click the imgur link itself

[old jacinth]

Ah, yes, lol

My bad

[idle tiger]

I've never run r 11.5 on anything modern, give it a shot and post the score in #overclocking I'd be curious

[old jacinth]

Uh, it's not there

[idle tiger]

Is it tho?

[old jacinth]

It's not readable still

Oh, ai see bow

Thanks ^^

[simple holly]

so what deal did u get @idle tiger

on ebay

and can someone teach me abt cinebench

ik abt it but never used it before

[idle tiger]

This was > a year ago, this kind of stuff is even cheaper now because #spaceheater https://www.ebay.com/itm/128GB-8x16GB-DDR3-PC3-8500R-4Rx4-ECC-Reg-Server-Memory-For-Dell-PowerEdge-R410/303059597777

I just searched "ecc 128Gb" that's on the front page of results

[simple holly]

i meant the whole thing

[idle tiger]

I got the board for <$100, 4 opteron 6378's for <$100 as well

Two 1620W platinum supermicro PSU's for $40 a piece iirc, they're cheaper now

Though I used a 1600 t2 for bench

Let's move this to #cpus-mobo-and-memory

[torn flame]

for an aio on the gpu is a 140mm radiator sufficient enough or should I go for a 240mm

[open thunder]

Noctua is so far away

I used Amazon because on Newegg it was 240 dollars for a Noctua D15 Chromax

[low pumice]

@open thunder my D15 non-chromax shipped from California iirc lol

Got to Illinois in 6 days with shipping

[open thunder]

some reason newegg is asking 240 dollars for a 100 dollar cooler

[low pumice]

Newegg is out of stock then

I bought mine for 90

[open thunder]

What method do you use for your cpu I always did the pea method

[magic wave]

I would be using x method

if

[low pumice]

@open thunder x

Yea

[magic wave]

I had ever installed a CPU

lol

[low pumice]

I used pea and I'd like to use x instead

[magic wave]

I should repaste my CPU

[maiden delta]

I use the pea method

[magic wave]

oh

pea

[maiden delta]

😉

[magic wave]

my CPU was pasted by somebody at Lenovo like 6 years ago so

[maiden delta]

[low pumice]

I'm repasting sometime soon

[magic wave]

I kinda imagine repasting it would be beneficial

[maiden delta]

It probably would

[magic wave]

even just using the cooler that it came with, it stays under the limit

does get up to 70 though where the limit is like 73 so I really should repaste lol

but even then that's full load on four cores at 3.78GHz

[low pumice]

Huh

[maiden delta]

Any idea why occt says my system is running at 120C

I'm assuming its a read error

my cpu and gpu idle at 50c

[cold island]

yeah i'd assume so if it really was at 126c im pretty sure it'd turn off or limit the voltage or something to get it stable

also is that the motherboard? might be vrms or something

[maiden delta]

that's the thing, idk what it means by system

is there another meathod to check temps?

huh, ya ig thats the motherboard according to that reading

[cold island]

hwinfo

[maiden delta]

k ill download it

[cold island]

should have a bunch of readings for cpu, mobo, drives, gpu, temps, voltages, and basically everything you can monitor

[maiden delta]

ok

[low pumice]

aida64 can also work

[maiden delta]

i can't find where to download hwinfo from. You got a link?

[cold island]

https://www.hwinfo.com/download/

[topaz blaze]

can i figure out if my cpu cooler is making that weird grinding wheezing sound in my PC?

[maiden delta]

which one do i click on lol @cold island

nvm

[cold island]

also those orange download buttons are an ad apparently

but yea the one for install and hit local

[maiden delta]

running it currently

Huh very interesting

I have no idea what could be causing that

could it be because i have a overkill kit of ram in rn for this sub par mobo? @cold island

[low pumice]

prob not ram

[cold island]

huh thats pretty weird

[low pumice]

what mobo is it?

[maiden delta]

its a oem part

[cold island]

probably that

[maiden delta]

what?

the ram?

[cold island]

what chip/board series (b450, z490 etc)

oem boards arent the best

[maiden delta]

lga 1151

idk the board series

[cold island]

wut cpu

[maiden delta]

i5 6400

[cold island]

so i'd assume its not because of high voltage/power from the chip, maybe the board damaged or it has like absolutely no airflow? idk much about mobo troubleshooting

[maiden delta]

great airflow atm actually lol

idk ill try another kit of ram or maybe i damaged it somehow

Switched kits, same thing

i've been getting pretty unlucky lately ngl

Wish I had one of those thermal guns so I could see if it was actually that hot lol

[unkempt spire]

Hey guys, my GPU runs a little hot while under full load after Overclocking and still a little bit hot when I turn off the OC, what can I do to help cool it better? And for reference I haven't had many cooling issues, maybe I just need to clean out the dust.

[magic sparrow]

@maiden delta insulate your hand with something thin/non electrically conductive/semi thermally conductive and tap parts of the mobo to find the hotspot. Most notably VRMs

[untold owl]

not sure if this is the right spot, but im going to be buying a new case for my upgrades im doing in the fall, and the case i want isnt available yet but im looking to add a couple more fans to it when it is. does anyone recommend any good fans? im trying to stick to a certain color but at the end of the day its just a fan. but want something good thatll last a while

[maiden delta]

Would a surgical glove work? @magic sparrow

[magic sparrow]

maybe? Quick tap(s) on something hot with that should protect you from burns I think

[maiden delta]

Alright. If something is actually 120c I think I'll feel it before I even touch it

[low pumice]

@untold owl Arctic P12/P14

Very good cheap fans

[untold owl]

okay thank you!

[magic sparrow]

well internal temps is higher then external as well as I assume whatever is so hecking hot is probs under a heatsink... or should be (know some of those cheap heatsinkless VRMs)

[maiden delta]

Ok so i put a glove on and felt all around my motherboard while it was in use and nothing felt even remotely hot @magic sparrow

[magic sparrow]

Did you make sure the readings were high as well?

Cuz if from cold boot the temps could've dropped

[maiden delta]

yes it is currently reading 120c

This is also the oem motherboard i have atm

Do you have any guess where the vrms on this board would be lol @magic sparrow

[maiden delta]

ya i felt there, it wasn't hot lol

[cold island]

im pretty confused why parts of it are 1c and others are 120c

[maiden delta]

ya...

that makes me think that the sensors are just off

I've also had my pc running for about 30 mins now completely fine

[cold island]

yeah the only other thing that i'd imagine would get 120c would be the chip, did u feel it?

[maiden delta]

the cpu?

[cold island]

the chipset that looks like the mini cpu die on the left side

the dark green square

[maiden delta]

oh

ya i felt it when i started and it was fine but i only felt the bottom half of it because my gpu covers the top

i can take the gpu out because i have integrated graphics and try again

i just felt the vrms again and theyu

theyre definitely warm but i can't imagine them being 120c

[cold island]

yea thats like 250f you would be able to feel that

[maiden delta]

ya lol

i wonder if i got an external fan and just focused it on there for a lil if that would do anything

probably not tbh

I dont really know what to do. Should this be causing any concern if the system seems to be stable?

[cold island]

i mean as long as it can pass stress tests and everything works fine, i think it should be okay

but its still super weird

[maiden delta]

I'm planning on selling this system too. My concern is I don't want the guy who buys it to get mad at me if it crashes. So Ig ill just stress test is for a whilr and if it's fine I won't worry about it

[magic sparrow]

The only other place I can think of is CPU socket

[maiden delta]

Would the cpu socket be a different reading than the cpu package and individual core temps?

Because these are the cpu temps

[idle tiger]

Sounds like a measurement software error. Just happens on some platforms, especially rare or non-performance oriented stuff.

[maiden delta]

Sounds like that would be the best case scenario too

[idle tiger]

If the mosfets were 127C - you could probably smell it. And as you've tested before with your finger, they were not.

[maiden delta]

Ya lol

I'm also currently cooling it with 4 intake and 1 exhaust, aswell as having a in wall ac unit right next to it

[cold island]

would it be a sensor error or a software error? hwinfo showed it as 120c also

[maiden delta]

where does hwinfo get its info from?

[idle tiger]

The super io chip usually, depends on the motherboard

[limpid goblet]

I need a good heat sink for a fish tank build with special liquid

[maiden delta]

Ok so how would you recommend stress testing this for a little to see if its stable? @cold island

[cold island]

probably something like a cpu test like p95 to see if it’s the cpu socket, otherwise I’d say it’s just a reading error and fine

[maiden delta]

I'm running cinabench rn. Cpu temps went to low 70s and the mobo readings didn't budge one bit

[limpid goblet]

Could yall give me a good heatsink to get for a fish tank build that’s filled with liquid getting cooled

[idle tiger]

I'd say you're fine and don't worry about it.

[cold island]

if they didn’t change ^

[maiden delta]

Alright sounds good

[idle tiger]

Take that sale money and grab a 10600k 🙂

[maiden delta]

Sounds like a waste imo lol

My main system rn is fried so the money is going to that lol

[idle tiger]

Were you the one with the lightning bolted psu

[maiden delta]

Yep. And turns out it wasn't the psu. That same psu is being used to power this rig rn. Somehow, the surge came through my ethernet connection because only my mobo got fried and I have no ethernet connection anymore on any other computers

Isp is coming out Sat to check it out and I sent a rma request for my board

[idle tiger]

Happens

[maiden delta]

Hopefully the cpu isn't fried too

[idle tiger]

Boards die all the time without taking the cpu with them

Common in sub-0 OC

[maiden delta]

Thats what I'm hoping for

[limpid goblet]

Could yall give me a good heatsink to get for a fish tank build that’s filled with liquid getting cooled

[limpid goblet]

Or not

[sudden steeple]

do y'all think that a 280mm AIO is enough for an i7-10700K? idk if it matters but i'll be doing mostly gaming (sim racing, FPSes, high framerate stuff)

a few of my friends suggested i go for a 360mm but that wouldn't fit in the case i want

[cold island]

yeah 280 should be plenty, but i'd suggest going for a 10600k, equal performance for less and can beat the 10900k with tuning

[low pumice]

Yea go 10600k iirc it's better value for gaming

[cold island]

yuh

[low pumice]

(if you're set on intel that is)

[sudden steeple]

aight

[low pumice]

Ryzen still dominates pure value

[sudden steeple]

oh, i forgot i do wanna do VR

so idk if that changes things at all

[cold island]

it doesnt really change a lot for cpu performance

@low pumice if there were cheaper z490 boards the 10600k would be killer for gaming at that budget

[low pumice]

yea

[magic sparrow]

Tho what about cooler I wonder. What do you need to get the 10600k to be really good in perf cooling wise

May need a $40 cooler as well (rn $60 as cheaper options are OOS I think)

[cold island]

probably at least a mid tier air cooler, and a 240/high end air cooler for overclocking

yeah a $40-50 cooler i think would be good

[magic sparrow]

So I guess a good replacement for the 3700x gaming builds as cost would probs be similar I think

[low pumice]

@magic sparrow we'll actually have to see if budget boards support higher ram freq

[cold island]

true there isnt a lot on the motherboards rn

[spark scarab]

@limpid goblet Just about Any Heatsink that isnt a liquid cooled one would work. Im assuming your going to be using mineral oil Like I have seen done on other builds?

[limpid goblet]

Mineral Oil nah

Flameable

No thanks

I'm going to using ElectroCool @spark scarab

[brisk rain]

I've seen people suggesting using ammonia ([Edit]: Not a serious suggestion)

[spark scarab]

Are you trying to kill someone

[brisk rain]

I mean

[spark scarab]

ammonia has fumes that are deadly when breathed in in large amounts

[limpid goblet]

^

[brisk rain]

That is a bit of a drawback 🙂

[limpid goblet]

ElectroCool is non-toxic, not flame able

[spark scarab]

Ive never heard of Electrocool

[limpid goblet]

Cause It's expensive as hell

[brisk rain]

The ammonia is from the same school of thought as thermal-paste-on-the-socket

[spark scarab]

Oh Jeez

[brisk rain]

Not actually serious 🙂

[limpid goblet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvmMs6mU0NU

ElectroCool

[spark scarab]

Ah ok. Yeah Sure Mineral Oil is Flammable yet at the same time is cheaper and more readily available to the masses. Not to mention its non conductive at the same time

[limpid goblet]

sure but nah

[spark scarab]

Which One are you looking at getting

Just wondering cause the viscosity of the fluid determines what type of heatsink you would need for the CPU

[limpid goblet]

Huh

[spark scarab]

They have different types on the Engineered Fluid Website

[limpid goblet]

Oh ye

[spark scarab]

EC-100, EC-120, EC-130, EC-140

[limpid goblet]

And?

[spark scarab]

Well One would assume that each one has a different viscosity or thickness to it

[limpid goblet]

EC 100

I'm getting

[spark scarab]

So based on what I am seeing You should be fine with standard heatsinks that typically run fans on them

I would put fans in just to have the illusion of cooling while the liquid is actually flowing around the tank

[magic sparrow]

@low pumice I expect very little z490 boards to not support decent RAM speeds and considering the only Intel CPU that seems pretty decent is 10600k, you'd probs be buying a Z series

[low pumice]

@magic sparrow I'm saying budget like b460 h470 whatevery they're called

z490 too expensive

[magic sparrow]

10600k loses its value without OC tho

[low pumice]

and without good ram

thats the point I was getting to :P

[magic sparrow]

ye, but only Z series can OC dont forget

[low pumice]

um theres a leak that asus is unlocking oc

[magic sparrow]

so other boards are kinda out of the question

pretty sure it was AsRock

[low pumice]

but

close nuff

[idle tiger]

Amonia is a poor coolant choice - it's only really used in some sub-o chiller applications because it has a specific heat that's almost as good as water.

Kinda poisonous.

[spark scarab]

Yeah And Deadly

[brisk rain]

Yeah. I'm gonna edit the original message to point out that it's not a serious one

Though the "non practical" part did get me thinking about a what-if... If you had an unlimited budget, what would happen if you filled your loop with conductonaut or some similar product?

[idle tiger]

Build a cascade phase change cooler. Check the 2nd to last pin in #overclocking Mythical tech builds them for fun

https://www.overclock.net/forum/133-phase-change/1469603-three-stage-cascade-build.html

[brisk rain]

That's fun 🙂

I just did some googling... Some people have actually tried liquid metal cooling loops

youtu.be/XqvBLBlzeNQ?t=243

[spark scarab]

Ouch That could be bad buisness

[topaz blaze]

so im considering getting an AIO, does anyone have recommendations for a 120mm or 240mm?

[brisk rain]

What CPU are you cooling?

[idle tiger]

arctic freezer II

[low pumice]

@idle tiger out of stock everywhere

120mm is in stock in amazon but 120mm rads are pretty bad

[topaz blaze]

a 3600, slightly overclocked

@brisk rain

[brisk rain]

Probably a 140 or 240 then. 120 probably won't be enough

To be honest though, air cooling should be more than nough unless you want the looks

[topaz blaze]

im mainly looking at it for the looks

[brisk rain]

Why so many people build for looks 😢

I'd go with 240 then

corsairs are nice, but hard to find rn

[topaz blaze]

alright

[brisk rain]

Everything is hard to find rn

[topaz blaze]

would you recommend the h100?

[low pumice]

meh

[brisk rain]

It's okay, not greatest

[crude pelican]

What fans do you recommend

[idle tiger]

P12

[low pumice]

Arctic

[solemn bolt]

Anyone happen to know of an Aluminum CPU watercooling block?

I was wanting to do some cheap watercooling which would mean an aluminum radiator, but I can't for the life of me seem to find an aluminum cpu block lol

[magic sparrow]

@solemn bolt Cheapest decent ones are actually copper
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32899782878.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5cf562285UYWPR

$260 for full RGB copper CPU/GPU loop

[solemn bolt]

Ooooo that does look very nice.

[dusty olive]

Idk if this is the right place but how come my gpu temperatures are still high despite undervolting

[clever berry]

@dusty olive during idle or usage

[dusty olive]

Usage. Gaming to be specific

[clever berry]

which gpu

and are you using a custom fan curve

and what temps are you getting

[solemn bolt]

And for that matter, you should send a pic of your internals so we know what your airflow looks like @dusty olive

[dusty olive]

My gpu is an rx580

I'm also using a custom fan curve and the most I get is 70 degrees

[solemn bolt]

It either sounds like a faulty fan, dust buildup, or really bad airflow

[solemn bolt]

Any fans in the front of the case?

[dusty olive]

One

[solemn bolt]

And I'm assuming the cooler type right there is a dual fan on the gpu? Not a blower design?

So basically, your gpu's cooler is starved for air. There's not nearly enough airflow to satisfy both your cpu cooler up there and your gpu with just the one intake fan me thinks

Did you try looking at the temps with the side panel off?

[dusty olive]

No

And yeah there are two fans on the gpu

And I also have two fans in the case

[magic wave]

that PSU should, in that position, be rotated so the fan points downwards

that is, only if there is a hole for the fan to pull air

[dusty olive]

Oh. I thought the fan should point up?

[magic wave]

it will pull air into the PSU from the bottom of the case and exhaust out the back, leaving no hot air for the GPU

in that configuration, it sucks the same air that the GPU does

so they compete for air, essentially

[solemn bolt]

So before we do anything else, you should check your temps with the side panel off so we know if it's actually an airflow thing or if it's something else

[dusty olive]

Alrighty

[magic wave]

flip da psu doe :)

[dusty olive]

I'll do temp checks with the psu back down first. Then remove the side panel

[solemn bolt]

You already have the side panel off 🤔

[magic wave]

must've put it on in the meantime

[dusty olive]

My front fan.

My gpu fan curvature

[dusty olive]

So far things seem to be good. Might increase voltage later

[distant kernel]

is liquid cooling a gpu hard? I noticed that installing a gpu block required me to remove the fan plating.

also, is it dagerous? could i potentially harm my graphics card with custom cooling?

[low pumice]

eh you'll just have to know what you're doing

[cold island]

yeah you can probably just watch a single youtube video and know how to do it, the change of damaging it the same as an air cooled card if you dont make stupid mistakes on a custom loop (forgetting a plug or something)

[grand pilot]

So whats the pros and cons to water cooling? A few friends have told me not to do it due to the high maintenance and air cooling is basically just as good. Opinions?

[cold island]

pros
looks cool
better performance (as long as you dont have something like a single 120mm radiator)
quieter

cons
more expensive
the small risk of a leak
custom loops need to be flushed and sometimes the coolants dont play well (ie stains, gunk)

[grand pilot]

And what about AIOs?

[cold island]

aios are the exact same minus the last 2 cons

[ivory parrot]

Is that a good case fan ? ARCTIC F14 PWM PST

[loud nest]

Looking for sleeping kits for H150i Pro Rgb, can’t seem to find any that are compatible. Any help?

Sleeving*

[late talon]

guys what cooler should i get for overclocking my ryzen 5 3600x

it needs to be air because i bent my AIO pins when building my pc

[distant kernel]

@late talon theres a pretty good video I just saw a few days ago

this is actually pretty insightful on what to do

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vjWtUpItk&t=794s

watch the whole thing

[low pumice]

Well um

@distant kernel you should also look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VzXHUTqE7E

[distant kernel]

k

[cold island]

also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tay4Pz-PQDc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vjWtUpItk

[prime ocean]

oh the irony....

[brisk rain]

Water cooling is better, but is wasted and overly expensive for most builds

TL;DR

[sleek fable]

Im getting a i9-10900k and I plan to overclock it. Should I go with a AOI cooler from corsair or do a custom liquid softline? I am only liquid cooling the CPU.

[brisk rain]

Have you done a custom loop before?

[distant kernel]

im gonna help him with it

I have

[brisk rain]

Cool beans

[distant kernel]

Like I live a few blocks down

but ye

he wants a second opinion

[cold island]

aio will get you 99.9% of the way there

[brisk rain]

On the other hand, a fully unlocked 10900k can crank out upwards of 300 watts

Or is that the kf?

[distant kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/b99-captainholt-holt-raymondholt-hotdamn-gif-8718511

both

[brisk rain]

Well then

[distant kernel]

f just means no integrated graphics

but ye cooling

[sleek fable]

not sure which to go with

[distant kernel]

softline custom looks cool

[sleek fable]

the AIO will also save me $400

AOI*

[distant kernel]

*AIO

all in one

[cold island]

a decent 280+ radiator should take care of it decently, but you get diminishing returns adding more and more radiators

for $400 more the custom loop is kinda pointless, custom loops are 50% for looks

[brisk rain]

Both will cool okay, a good custom could theoretically be better, but the AIO should be able to pull it off

What style GPU are you putting in there?

[sleek fable]

2080 ti

asus

[brisk rain]

Blower or open air?

[sleek fable]

blower

[brisk rain]

Will your radiator be intake or exhaust?

[sleek fable]

intake

[brisk rain]

How big of a rad can you fit in your case?

[sleek fable]

not sure- still deciding on case

[brisk rain]

Okay

Hey, I'm blue again 🙂

Thanks whoever did that

[cold island]

you get it for being level 3

[brisk rain]

Anyway, if you can get a 360 rad that would be perfectly okay with AIO. 280 should also pull it off

I was already level three, but there was an incident

[cold island]

the general rule of thumb is 120m of radiator for each part cooled+120 extra

[brisk rain]

10900k could arguably be two parts with the power it can crank out, so at least a two fan, whether you go custom or aio

also single fan rads look weird

[cold island]

true

[livid agate]

any idea when newegg will get them in stock?

[cold island]

get an 80mm thick 120mm rad ez

[brisk rain]

That is

I dunno

Would be interesting to fit in a case

But as for when things will come back in stock....

No clue

What brand rad are you looking at?

[sleek fable]

corsair maybe

[brisk rain]

Corsair is iffy. A friend of mine just got one and had to ship one in from the UK

[cold island]

id not go for corsair parts their gpu blocks are notorious for leaking

[brisk rain]

I think they fixed that

[magic sparrow]

@brisk rain 2080Ti on torture test is easily 375w

so, eh

[brisk rain]

This true

[magic sparrow]

no need to stress over the 120 per component+extra 120

probs get a bykski kit and maybe switch out the rads. May not have to but also might be nice for trying to get higher fin density
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32899782878.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.5cf562285UYWPR

looking at it I guess, unlikely that you need to switch rads out

But I mean... 360+240 CPU/GPU kit is only $260 so might as well go crazy

[ivory parrot]

Is there any good 140mm case fans and cheap ?

[ivory parrot]

This one ? https://www.enermaxeu.com/fr/products/fans/silent-fans/t-b-silence-adv/

Or this one ? https://www.bequiet.com/fr/casefans/448

[brisk rain]

What is the best aio that money can buy?

[rugged nimbus]

If you have an unlimited budget, just go custom

[low pumice]

There is no best

x73 looks a bit better than h150i platinum, but h150i platinum performs a bit better iirc

[final crescent]

if you can find H150i that are not $300+ or used at $200-250

[sudden steeple]

is there any reason why i should get the Corsair XTM50 High Performance Thermal Paste Kit over the TM30 Performance thermal paste?

and/or does anyone have thermal paste recs?

[idle tiger]

The fans on the platinum just have a really high max rpm

[low pumice]

@idle tiger clc360 is loudest aio right

[idle tiger]

Lol idk, I don't memorize that stuff

Gamersnexus has tons of data on it

[low pumice]

I expected more from you..... >:(

Yea

That's from memory of GN articles

@sudden steeple Kryonaut best, NT H2 is good too.

[sleek fable]

Are there 2080 supers with water blocks pre installed? If not, is it hard to put one in yourself? I am building with my friend who is semi-experienced with this stuff

[low pumice]

Are they experienced with watercooling? And are you doing a full custom loop?

[idle tiger]

Yes. OOS though. https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-3289-KR

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Waterforce-WB-Pre-Installed-Gv-N208SAORUS/dp/B07VRKWMZV

[rugged nimbus]

@sudden steeple Thermal Grizzly Kryonaught. Blown away by how good it is compared to the trash pre-applied stuff corsair had on my block. Pretty much the best paste aside from liquid metals

Oop, nvm. Mr1111 beat me with the recommendation 🙂

[sudden steeple]

thanks y'all!

[low pumice]

Lol

[grand pilot]

what the difference between a water board and a pump besides how they look? Do they server the same purpose?

[low pumice]

Water board and pump..?

[grand pilot]

sorry reservior

[low pumice]

sooo... are you asking the difference between Pump+res combos and block+pump combos..?

[grand pilot]

I suppose im really asking about the water board do they server a purpose

[cold island]

like a distro plate?

[grand pilot]

Yes that

[low pumice]

ohhh you mean like motherboard?

oh

full gpu block?

[cold island]

its basically a reservoir that looks nice

[low pumice]

That should also cool vrm

[grand pilot]

Gotcha, thats what I thought didnt know if one was preferred or more beneficial over the other thanks

[idle tiger]

Distro plates are popular in hard-line tubing builds. Very high end stuff.

[cold island]

@low pumice were talking about distro plates :p

[low pumice]

oh

lol

[cold island]

but i want a distro plate with vrm cooling lol

[low pumice]

that looks like a GPU block to me lol

[grand pilot]

Sorry really new to pc parts and such and i keep discovering more and more

[low pumice]

just the right size for a gpu block :p

[cold island]

but yeah they're mainly for looks

[low pumice]

I can't tell the difference between a gpu block and a distro plate

they're pretty similar :P

[idle tiger]

Easy to tell imo

[low pumice]

like sometimes they'll have the in-out built in I think

[cold island]

ones like 9 inches long and the other is as big a front panel lol

[low pumice]

but for that one theres the in-out on top

just looking at images its hard to tell :p

[cold island]

okay but imagine a backplate thats a distroplate

[spark scarab]

That Would Be a interesting Concept

Save on Space in the case and still have a distro block would be kinda cool. Also at the same time being a backplate for a GPU

[sleek fable]

This is my first time doing liquid cooling and I have a few questions: is it ok to turn off the computer every night and back on In the morning? Will the cooling parts mold? And when should I change the coolant? I am cooling my cpu and gpu with softline. Thanks!

[ivory parrot]

https://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/p14-pwm-pst.html Is this case fan is good for its price ? And there's a value pack of 5 fans like this at 35€

[solemn bolt]

I've got a full water cooling kit coming in the mail that includes a 360mm and a 240mm radiator. Internal dimensions of my case are 420x508mm. I was thinking about cutting away the bottom of the case for the 360 and mounting the 240 on the front after taking away that drive cage. Maybe I can find a way to move the drive cage to the area I have the cables hidden in right now? Thoughts?

[maiden delta]

Even if you could find a way to fit both radiators in there is seems very inefficient. Why not just buy a new case?

[solemn bolt]

Sleeper aesthetics

[maiden delta]

Hmm. Well i honestly don't know how your gonna pull that off lol. You could probably get a 240 in the front if you removed the drive cage but I have no clue about the 360 rad.

Maybe someone else will have an idea

[solemn bolt]

Could always canabalize my old build for the case

[topaz blaze]

is 60c ok for a gpu idk if i need some cooling

[cold island]

60c is okay as long as its under 90c its fine

[open thunder]

Should I repaste my Noctua NF 15

It's on max load rn

@idle tiger do you know if I should?

I heard that I could heat it enough it would spread correctly

Unless I been lied to all my life by my Uncle

[lucid horizon]

I'm getting the TD500 mesh white case from cooler master and need an exhaust fan, would the Noctua NF-F12 be good/would it fit?

[open thunder]

Yes of course it will

[grand pilot]

question. If i have a corsair node will rgb fans of a different brand work with the node?

[final crescent]

i believe only if they have the proper connectors, which likely they will not. you can order adapters from places like eBay tho. I had to for my SilverStone 360mm AIO

[grand pilot]

Ok great thanks. I couldnt see getting a few more fans for 100 vs 30 lol

[final crescent]

there is a video by TechLens on YT that explains how to

[outer sage]

ive been trying for 40 minutes to screw my noctua nh-u12a into the bracket and it hasnt gone anywhere

im not sure if im doing anything wrong or if theres something wrong with the screws

[jolly pendant]

what are your gals and guys thoughts on a pretty good cpu cooler for a ryzen 5 3600, just incase i want to oc it?

[low pumice]

Depends on budget >:D

[azure crown]

the stock cooler is quite good, if you give it adequate airflow, you could oc a wee bit on it

also, keep in mind your 3600 might not oc at all due to silicon lottery

[low pumice]

Generally there are ~40$, ~60$, ~90$, tiers and custom water for cooling :p

[azure crown]

so i would test oc now, and see what your temps end up being

of course, temp does play a role in how high you can go

[low pumice]

Ye don't bank on being able to OC more with a new cooler

It'll lower temps for sure but OC is only luck

[azure crown]

plus, zen has never been a good oc chip

doesnt show 3600, but its all the same die

[low pumice]

So um my chip can't do 4.2ghz at 1.275v

[azure crown]

yep, thats how bad zen is with ocing lol

[low pumice]

It's bc I ran a ton of voltage through it for a while

1.375v

[azure crown]

rip

[low pumice]

Then some 1.35v

Now 1.1v 3.8ghz as my default config lol

[rugged nimbus]

@grand pilot
You probably can. If someone isn't selling adapter cables on ebay, you can easily make adapter cables (eBay would be cheaper b/c bulk prices on wireing supplies is so much better)

I haven't looked at it for a while, but I believe the corsair fan pinout is just the standard power/data/ground, with the fourth pin just for connecting the next fan in series (because of how the fan nodes are wired)

[grand pilot]

Thanks!

[topaz blaze]

alchohol cooled pc

FBi:

[solemn bolt]

So I'm gonna be getting my big water cooling kit soon. I remember seeing that using straight water is the best for it and to use an additive that kills the microorganisms in the loop. Does anyone have one that they'd recommend?

[low pumice]

I think EK has good fluid

[solemn bolt]

Like, a good micro organism killer? Or do you mean a water replacement that they have?

[distant kernel]

you know alcohol would actually be an amazing coolant if it wasn't so combustible @topaz blaze

[heady gust]

ikr

[brisk rain]

Doesn't alcohol have a fairly low heat capacity though?

[low pumice]

like this stuff
https://www.ekfluidgaming.com/ek-cryofuel-clear-premix-1000ml

[idle tiger]

Ethanol has a much lower specific heat vs water, it's mainly useful when you need sub-zero coolant with a low viscosity.

2.44 vs 4.186 J/g*dec C

[twin urchin]

Opinions: Scythed Mugen 5 RevB vs beQuiet Shadow Rock 3 ?

not counting availability problems

[azure crown]

shadow rock looks much nicer

and has a fan that i know is good

the mugen has an extra heat pipe tho

[cold island]

i have the mugen its great

[azure crown]

if you have an easy to see through side panel, get the shadow rock, if you dont care what it looks like, get whatever is cheapest, they will both perform well enough, and even a 5C difference isn't enough to really make a difference in performance.

@twin urchin

[twin urchin]

Thanks. They seemed like the heatsinks should have similar capabilities (including the asymmetrical design) and my experience with scythe is pretty damn favorable (I used a Ninja mini on a Q6600 for 12 years).

It's going to be a few months before I build anything, but I've been eyeing the Mugen for a while, and found that particular be quiet cooler the other day that seems very comparable in prices and capability

[topaz blaze]

Hey guys! I was curious if anyone has experimented with noctua's u14s or d15 on a 3900x. Specifically, a u14s running two 140mm fans vs a stock nh-d15, and then a nh-d15 running two of the NF-A12x25 fans. Is there performance parity between the dual fan config of the u14s with the d15? What about the dual 120mm config for the d15?

[idle tiger]

U12A > U12S because a12x25

[cold island]

y’all aren’t ready for a14x25

[topaz blaze]

lol that'd be sick, but I believe with Noctua's roadmap it's not going to happen until sometime 2021

[cold island]

also isnt the u12s with 2 fans just a u12a or does it have a ram cutout

[topaz blaze]

u12a has more heatpipes and a shifted heatsink for full ram clearance with the fans attached

... rip paper

[cold island]

okay I didn’t know if it had anything different for more ram support cool

[topaz blaze]

Yeah, it's an amazing cooler. It just doesn't help that it comes in at a premium of $20 more than the d15

[cold island]

yuh

also I’d assume that the fan speed deltas would impact performance a decent amount so it’d be harder to tell what’s from the cooler

[topaz blaze]

I agree

[cold island]

still be pretty interesting tho

[rugged nimbus]

Um. Maybe don't do a mass tag 😬

I can possibly help depending what you need

[hybrid lantern]

cant mass tag? mb

it says cant find fan controller

and ive done all the online things to fix it so far

nothing still

i have 3x3 9 total fans

[rugged nimbus]

Honestly @ .here might not be an issue after looking at the rules you might be allowed to, idk.

[hybrid lantern]

maybe i have to separate them into 3 controllers? instead of 2

[rugged nimbus]

Hmm..so like is it multiple controllers then?

[hybrid lantern]

yeah

and i can bridge them together

[rugged nimbus]

I don't know much about thermaltake fan controllers, but is there a limit to how many you bridge? Maybe try just two chained together and see if that works to troubleshoot

[hybrid lantern]

i do have 2 together

maybe i should do all 3?

[rugged nimbus]

Maybe? Try it. Shouldn't hurt

[hybrid lantern]

which is weird. if it does work that way since it isnt even detecting the other controllers

in the software

so peculiar

[rugged nimbus]

So like do the fans power up?

[hybrid lantern]

yeah them mothas be lit up bro

[rugged nimbus]

Huh.... Maybe try a different USB port. I assume they use usb

[hybrid lantern]

yeah they are hmm i'll try everything

thanks for helping me think things though

through

[rugged nimbus]

Gl

My expertise is with Corsair stuff and basic fan control :)

[hybrid lantern]

no worries thanks i'll let you know if anything works

[livid agate]

does anyone knoww when newegg wwill havethe 10900k?

[low pumice]

Stock is wack

[livid agate]

facts dude i just dont know when to watch

[brisk rain]

@idle tiger re the video earlier... "I'm sorry professor, my fan ate my homework"

[eternal flint]

How do I find the TDP of a laptop cooler

[brisk rain]

You could try looking for reviews. What cooler are you looking at?

[eternal flint]

Well, I bought a pc and it’s an AIo

Trying to figure out the TDP so I can choose a cpu to upgrade to

I am coming from a Pentium

I did my research

Now I need to pick 1 of the 5 I chosen

[brisk rain]

What's the CPU in the pc right now?

[eternal flint]

It’s a 35 watt cpu

[brisk rain]

On an AIO?

[eternal flint]

Yea

That’s correct

[brisk rain]

How many fans?

[eternal flint]

Just one

[brisk rain]

Hmm

[eternal flint]

It’s a laptop cooler

[brisk rain]

You have a laptop cooler in a PC?

[eternal flint]

It’s an AIO Dell pc

Not a reg desktop

[brisk rain]

Oh, okay. I though you were talking about an AIO water loop

[eternal flint]

So any ideas on figuring out the TDP of this unknown laptop cooler

?

[brisk rain]

What's the model number of the CPU currently in there?

[eternal flint]

Pentium G3220T

Might upgrade to i7-4765T later

Cuz it’s same TDP

[brisk rain]

Do you know if it's in a socket or just soldered to the board?

[eternal flint]

Socket LGA1150

I am also using the H81 chipset

So definite compatible

So any idea on knowing the TDP of laptop cooler?

[brisk rain]

Not really... might be able to make some guesses though. How many heat pipes are there?

[eternal flint]

1 or 2

[brisk rain]

um

Which is it?

[eternal flint]

1

[brisk rain]

Okay

How large of a heat pipe

[eternal flint]

Idk honestly

I don’t know*

I can try checking

[brisk rain]

Okay

[eternal flint]

I don’t know how big

Won’t say

https://www.dell.com/support/manuals/us/en/04/inspiron-20-3048-aio/inspiron-20-3048-aio-v1/procedure?guid=guid-7ddbf563-c751-4a75-8024-853c033c9a4e&lang=en-us

That’s the pic I got

And no specs on measurement

Already checked

[calm flint]

Wasn’t sure which channel to go to with this, but my pc just a couple minutes ago randomly crashed. Video input was gone and my pc stayed on for a good minute. Then it shut off, and restart on its own. Is this something I need to worry about?

[brisk rain]

Possibly, especially if it does it again

@eternal flint I'm gonna guess a fairly low dissipation on that. maybe 50w max?

[calm flint]

This is actually the second time in about a month. Not a frequent issue but it has happened a couple times

[brisk rain]

What are the specs of your system?

[eternal flint]

50 watts max? @brisk rain

[brisk rain]

Maybe?

It's a very very rough guess

[eternal flint]

Ok s

Oops

[calm flint]

CPU: fx-8320
RAM: DDR3 16GB
GPU: 5500 XT
MB: ASUS M5A97
Storage: 500GB SSD

Pretty dated system

[eternal flint]

Should I take it safe and stay at 35 watts or should I take gamble and jump to 45 watts?

[cold sable]

What kind of AIO should i go for my Coolermaster 520rgb case? 240 or 280?

And for the fans should i go Corsair LL120 or Corsair ql120?

[magic wave]

H81 👀

[green robin]

About how much do you think it would cost.to custom water cool a gpu with a 240mm radiator and soft tubing

[snow yarrow]

Just a rough guess not so sure but maybe 200$

300$ from a reliable company

Like Thermaltake they sell it for 272

@green robin

[green robin]

Ok thanks

[snow yarrow]

Yeah

[fierce basin]

anyone know some good rgb fans, need some better cooling for my case rather then the fans that came with it

[fierce basin]

will those be better then the case fans?

[maiden delta]

What case fans do you have?

[fierce basin]

idk man, they came with the case 3 or 4 years ago and with the upgrades it really starting to heat up

[maiden delta]

What case?

[fierce basin]

that one

sorry took me while

masterbox lite 5

[maiden delta]

They're probably better but it won't make much of a difference in that case because the airflow is poor

[fierce basin]

ok thank you, plus i want rgb XD

[maiden delta]

Who doesn't 😉

[fierce basin]

tired of just the red fans

[calm turtle]

can someone please point me at the rgb color effects joke chart?

[tawdry lion]

nope

[brisk rain]

@calm turtle

[stray hawk]

time to make my pc white

[bleak iron]

White pc's look dope imo

[maiden delta]

White reflects light well

[bleak iron]

yessir

[simple anchor]

Is it possible to sync Cooler Master Wraith Prism and RGB Fusion 2.0 to have the same color in cycling mode at the same time?

Please ping me if you can help

[brisk rain]

Yes

Is there in easy way to do it? No clue

It is possible though

@simple anchor Is this just a stock Wraith Prism cooler?

If so, AMD lists them as compatible with RGB Fusion. Which cable are you using for the color control?

[simple anchor]

Yes

RGB Fusion works with everything but the ring

[brisk rain]

ah, the ring

ngl, I've never been able to get the ring to do anything except a rainbow cycle

[granite idol]

Anybody knows a cheap and efficient colling system for overclocked cpu?

[magic wave]

a really low power CPU

that way you can use a tiny cooler

[fluid lichen]

Use the eco preset on your ryzen cpu

[idle tiger]

Scythe mugen

[twin urchin]

Scythe Mugen 5 is hard to come by these days

[solemn bolt]

Well you can go reaaaaally cheap and get water cooling parts that look weird like those simple blue "cpu cooler" blocks you see for like 5 bucks. Most expensive part would be a radiator so you just zip-tie the things together and you can technically get the job done. @granite idol

[simple geyser]

has anyone tried to water-cool the ASUS ROG Strix 5700 XT?

[magic sparrow]

Those cheap blocks don't have micro fins and when they do, no gasket for waterflow. Also poor mixed metal quality so you need to understand how to deal with mixed metals in a loop @solemn bolt

Much worse then cheapest AIOs and probs same, or worse, as a $25 Gammaxx 400 air cooler

[solemn bolt]

Well the cheapest dual rad AIO on Amazon is going for about $60usd, which is fine for overclocked cooling and it is a good solution. But I heavily disagree that the cheap no-fin block with a 240 rad would be worse than the Gammaxx 400. @magic sparrow

[low pumice]

Why would that be?

Gammaxx 400 is actually a decent cooling solution

some crappy block with some crappy pump with a low fin density rad is not

[solemn bolt]

Because I've seen videos of people using those really crappy blocks and basically saying "Yeah it's not as good as the proper cpu water blocks with fins, but it's still really good if you're ok with some Jank".

[low pumice]

the cpu block itself being bad isn't too bad

pump and rad tho

unless you're back to talking about AIOs?

[solemn bolt]

Even the cheapest rad still has plenty of fin density to dissipate heat properly. And I was talking about cheap water cooling vs the Gammaxx

But yeah skimping out on the pump is definitely not good for the long term lol, but for testing out overclocks it's fine

[low pumice]

My point is, cheap custom loop is risky, for little performance gain if any, and only a short term solution. It's got no real benefits over just a gammaxx 400 @solemn bolt

Gammaxx 400 is stupid good value, Better cooling than the NH U12s

[solemn bolt]

Oh yeah for sure it's a good value, and going jank on water cooling is risky, I just wouldn't stick an overclocked cpu under it lol

It's probably better to just splurge and get the cheap 240 aio

[low pumice]

I definally would

It looks small

Looks janky

But it's actually really good

[solemn bolt]

I guess it just depends on what overclocked cpu is under there

[low pumice]

Unless you're trying to cool a 10900k OC, it's good for OCing

Anything but the highest end chips, I would put under that cooler

10600k OC, go for it

3700x OC, go for it

[solemn bolt]

Like my Ryzen 3900x I wouldn't let touch that Gammaxx while doing anything strenuous, let alone overclocking.

[low pumice]

Nah it'll do fine

Nh U12s can cool a 3900x fine

Gammaxx 400 performs better than an u12s

OC it will definally struggle

But normal load

[solemn bolt]

My beQuiet Dark Rock 4 sits at 90c under a full load hellllll no the Gammaxx won't be good enough lol

[low pumice]

Lol might need to repaste

[solemn bolt]

I did twice lol

[low pumice]

Dot method?

[solemn bolt]

Yup

[low pumice]

Yea gotta do x method

[solemn bolt]

It still touches the edges though so it's not the paste

[low pumice]

One sec lemme find the video

[solemn bolt]

Just that 12 cores under 100% load will overwhelm any air cooler lol

[low pumice]

Nahh

Dark rock pro 4 or d15 can handle it just fine

[solemn bolt]

It 'handles' it fine, but it sits at 90c lol

But again that's under 100% load too

[low pumice]

Here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc7bCC1TmVg

[solemn bolt]

That only matters if it's not covering stuff properly, my application is fine

[low pumice]

I know mine is bad

[solemn bolt]

Also it's not the Pro model, it's the singel tower design

[low pumice]

Yea that's why

That is basically a gammaxx 400

[solemn bolt]

This thing
https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/1376

[low pumice]

Oh wrong one

But still similar

Gammaxx 400 beats out dark rock slim, thought that was the single tower one

[magic sparrow]

But I mean, $50 gets you Mugen 5 Rev B/Thermalright Macho C and $60 gets you whatever the Mugen upgrade was from Scythe

If you want that OCed CPU stuff

[low pumice]

Isn't 60$ the scythe ninja or whatever

[magic sparrow]

Yeah, Ninja smth

[low pumice]

Ninja 5

Now that's a good mid end cooler

[solemn bolt]

I'm just gonna assume it's cheaper on whatever site you're looking at

[low pumice]

But gammaxx 400 can handle mid end chips OCed, and high end chips stock.

[solemn bolt]

Cause on Newegg right now, the Scythe Mugen 5 is sitting at $130

[low pumice]

Mugen 5 rev b

[solemn bolt]

Which is out of stock at $50

[low pumice]

Yep

We're talking prices in general and what they usually are at

[solemn bolt]

Gotcha gotcha

Honestly though, if you were overclocking I would still go for the $60 aios I think

[low pumice]

Leaky boi

[magic sparrow]

Also got Windale 6 being slightly worse then Mugen 5

$47 rn

[low pumice]

45$ +7$ shipping on wegg

[magic sparrow]

Macho C is $55 rn

[solemn bolt]

I dunno about the Macho C, it's kinda skimping out on those fins

[low pumice]

How good is the macho C? I'm only really familiar with le grand macho

[magic sparrow]

High import fees to Canada tho, idk for US

[solemn bolt]

Windale looks decent for stock operations though

[magic sparrow]

Windale noise normalized is a bit worse then other options

[low pumice]

Yea but scythe has really good noise normalised perf from good heatsinks and lower rpm fans

Ninja 5 and Mugen rev b at least

(not a bad thing)

[magic sparrow]

Also note, amount fins aren't everything. Look at CNPS20x and D15

[low pumice]

Wdym cnps20x just stacked like 20% more fins and barely beat out d15 xD

[solemn bolt]

That's a twin tower design though lol

[magic sparrow]

You're mostly looking at fan in noise normalized

Other stuff will only change things a small amount

[low pumice]

Oh nice cnps20x is 100$ now, decent deal.

[solemn bolt]

I gotta head out, you peeps have fun~

[magic sparrow]

Cya

[low pumice]

I still would like it to fall to 90$ with d15 and drp4

Cya

[magic sparrow]

That's be a nice thing to happen

[lofty hinge]

Im thinking of buying a closed water cooler with some rgb on the block. Is the H100i worth the price or should I buy something else?

[low pumice]

:(

rgb

[lofty hinge]

rgb

my ram is rgb so it matches hehe

[low pumice]

my rgb ram matches with my NH-D15 no matter what you say

[final crescent]

@lofty hinge i went w/ a Silverstone PF360-ARGB Permafrost 360mm, was $130 when i ordered

[lofty hinge]

nice I'll check it out

[safe cave]

Any good modern day fans that push out some decent CFM. I can care less about the RGB stuff but even Corsair's older single color LED fans are hard to find these days. Most RGB stuff is only about 50+- CFM

[ocean flume]

you want cfm? https://www.newegg.com/bgears-b-blaster-140x38-case-fan/p/N82E16835132046

CFM FOR DAYS

[low pumice]

Arctic p12 for a great overall case fan

@ocean flume 70 dba lol

[ocean flume]

didn't say anything about noise level lol

[balmy fern]

Does anyone know if Corsairs H150i cooler can fit on cooler master's HAF 932 Advanced??

[idle tiger]

This drives me nuts - Linus should've used a scale to measure out each part of epoxy, $15 on amazon.

https://youtu.be/WJnrMNCahxc?t=448

[distant kernel]

tecc tip

[nimble lodge]

Corsair H100i RGB Platinum AIO Liquid CPU Cooler, 240mm, Dual ML120 PRO RGB PWM Fans, Intel 115X/2066, AMD AM4/TR4 is this the most recommended cooler on the market rn

[turbid nymph]

How much better are AIOs compared to air coolers

[idle tiger]

Hot and loud

[low pumice]

AIOs arn't objectively better than air coolers :P

[distant kernel]

the best if u wanna look rlly kickass and have the best cooling is custom loop

[heady gust]

Then is the cooler master ml240 rgb v2 good?

[sacred wolf]

Question for y’all: how bad an idea is it to build a water loop without a reservoir?

Trying to plan out a water loop in my Lian Li ITX box and there’s not a lot of space in there for something like that.

[azure crown]

you dont really need a reservoir. look at AIOs

they just make building and maintaining your loop much easier

your gonna want a small pump/res for a custom loop

[wispy mist]

It would jus make bleeding and filling your loop way more difficult

but it would work

[sacred wolf]

Yeah. I’m basically limited to a very tiny amount of space near the front 120mm intake for any cooling hardware I want to add. I’m sure there are some pump/res combos I could look at to go there, but there’s almost no room to speak of.

Was actually considering pulling a Frankenstein with an old Asetek pump Ive got in a drawer

[wispy mist]

i know that there are some rad/res combos that you can get

The reservoir just takes up a bit of space at the top of the rad

[sacred wolf]

I;ll have to look into that. I hadn’t considered that the res could be combined with the rad like that.

(this will be my first adventure in water cooling, so clearly I’m a glutton for punishment)

[wispy mist]

http://www.swiftech.com/mcr-x20-drive-rev3.aspx something like this

[sacred wolf]

Hm. Need to find one in a 120mm variety. There’s no way I can fit a 240mm rad in here

Also need to figure out a solution for my GPU - there is no block for the Gigabyte RX 5700 XT Gaming OC that I can find, so I need to figure out how it varies from the reference model to see if I can just use one of those blocks

(Plus or minus copper shims and thermal compound/pads)

[idle tiger]

It's not a reference design? What about something like the NZXT G12 - is there an equivalent?

[sacred wolf]

The NZXT G12 covers the VRMs and VRAM

Sadly

Okay, a cursory visual analysis suggests that the layout for the components on the Gigabyte card is roughly similar to reference with two exceptions: the Gigabyte PCB is shorter by about 3cm (because of where the reference card puts the blower fan), and the Gigabyte PCB also has a row of eight tall capacitors between the VRMs and the area of the board with the VRAM and die sit, which is why its incompatible with the reference block.

(Also explains why no one has tried to make a block for it in bulk, because the components that need active cooling are separated by a wall of capacitors that would require some fancy handling to cool properly)

[cold island]

for itx custom loops you dont really need reservoirs, just a rad, cpu/pump combo, and gpu block

[pliant niche]

Can I connect a fan into a AIO pump header?

[sacred wolf]

@pliant niche Yes, but make sure to tell your BIOS you’re doing that, or it’ll run it at 100%

[pliant niche]

I remember doing something like that the first time I booted my system

[unique lily]

JuanHero#0216 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[pliant niche]

[dusty latch]

Any good coolers for Ryzen 5 3600 under $70

[brisk rain]

Stock

[dusty latch]

Really cause I’m using that cooler and I’m still getting around 80-90 Celsius

[brisk rain]

What sort of load?

[ocean flume]

running at stock speeds? because you should be well below that if you're not OC'd. might need to reseat/repaste

[dusty latch]

Maybe

[low pumice]

Gammaxx 400

:D

[ocean flume]

not a direct comparison but i was using the stock cooler on my 2600 and was hitting maybe 55-60 under load, at stock speeds

what's your idle temp?

[verbal prism]

Hey

CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2, Close-Loop AIO CPU Liquid Cooler, 3rd Gen Dual Chamber Pump, 240 Radiator, Dual SickleFlow 120mm for AMD Ryzen / Intel 1151 https://www.newegg.com/product/N82E16835103297?m_ver=1

Is this any good?

So?