old-cooling

[simple anchor]

Pulled the exhaust fan out of my old case and using that to replace the one that's broken until the new fans get here tomorrow lol

lol what

I think it's running 2C cooler in Apex

Those fans must not have been amazing

[proper charm]

anyone awake :((

[weary raft]

no

[boreal prism]

Might be a dumb question but do they make case fans that only do white? Or do I just have to buy rgb then set them?

I was thinking about adding 2 top fans to my setup as like “spotlights”

[strange flume]

Do rgb then set them white

Thermalright C12C-S and C12R-S are pretty good

(R is reversed)

[boreal prism]

Would I use the reverse to be exhaust fans?

And do I need software to set them?

[strange flume]

You'd use reverse to use them as intakes if you wanted to hide the cage on the fan

So the regular versions would be otherwise the normal pick

[strange flume]

Yes software definitely

[boreal prism]

Ok I’ll def look into it thank you! I just got the white cable extensions I think it would look cool with a like spotlight effect

It’s a black/white build I got going on

[strange flume]

Ye

[flint ibex]

If I have a case with 8 fans, 3 of which are the AIO. What's the intake versus exhaust ratio? I am seeing 4 in and 4 out will create a slight positive pressure due to the dust filters on the front and bottom intake but not the exhaust. I am seeing 3 front intake, 1 bottom intake, 3 top exhaust (aio) and 1 rear exhaust. Would this work?

[knotty sparrow]

You've got it backwards, if the intake are restricted then it creates negative pressure.
That 4 and 4 setup will work, just run the intake fans a little faster than the exhaust to compensate.

[flint ibex]

How do you generally control each fan like that?

and what's the easiest way to check the pressure?

[knotty sparrow]

I keep my intake fans on one header and exhaust on another

[knotty sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

Best an average person with no specialized equipment can do to check for negative/positive pressure is hold your hand over a gap in the case with no fan nearby. If you feel air moving out, it's positive pressure.

[flint ibex]

are these the fan headers?

[knotty sparrow]

Yes

[flint ibex]

How much of a temp difference would there be using 120mm fans as opposed to 140mm?

like if a case has 6 slots that support 140 or 120, and i choose 120, how noticeable may that be?

[knotty sparrow]

It's usually a negligible difference but 140s tend to be quieter

[flint ibex]

i dont see a 140 version of the cheaper fans im planning to get

[flint ibex]

If I move to a case with 6 intakes and 4 exhaust, is running them all at the same RPM acceptable as it will create that positive pressure?

I am struggling to figure out how to manage the RPMs separately while also managing the RGB

[knotty sparrow]

That would work

[flint ibex]

Ive found this cheap hub, but my understanding is all the fans will use the same settings with this versus something like a controller, which is $60+. It also looks like my motherboard has 3 5v ARGB connectors. This RGB stuff is more complicated than I expected lol

Seems like I could use the hub to do my 6 intakes, then hook the 1 exhaust to an ARBG header on the motherboard, and the other exhausts are on the AIO which should be controlled either via the last ARBG header or the RBG/AIO software if that's how it works for that

Yeah confirmed 3 total 3pin argb headers, so that should cover each set of fans, can even get a 'breakout cable' to add a fourth but that shouldnt be necessary and im not even sure what that cable is

[brittle pebble]

I'm looking for something to block/guide airflow inside the case. Like a piece of plastic that would mount on/next to a fan to prevent air moving in a specific route

Is this a thing

Can't post a picture unfortunately I know the description sounds stupid

[rain berry]

Is it fine to be like this?

[low pumice]

Some exist for servers but it's not a thing for most consumer cases. There are things like this for some specific sff cases though
https://noctua.at/en/na-fd1

[low pumice]

Nothing looks wrong at a glance, what are you concerned about?

[rain berry]

This thing

[low pumice]

Bending the tubes is fine as long as you don't bend it to a point where it starts to seriously restrict flow. There's some technical term to it but the only thing you need to worry about is if you start bending it to a point like if you're folding it in half.

[rain berry]

Alr thx a lot mate

[knotty sparrow]

Measure and design what you need in CAD software, that's a good candidate for a 3D print

[knotty sparrow]

Kink is the word you're looking for

[low pumice]

yea that's the word

[sacred pagoda]

Fan ducting, yes

Like Fal said, usually you'll want to 3d print a custom one

https://youtu.be/cehXZftIYok?si=xRnfucBK1IpJnHp-

[ocean garden]

Just got a prebuild via new eggs website, only three tower fans register in bios, all the rgb is on but only three work//spin. Three register as N/A in bios while the last three don’t exist according to the motherboard

Motherboard is a ASUS prime z790-P zi

Moved the fans to a different slot and they still don’t register/work I also made sure all wires are securely together

I just fixed it by connected them all together so sorry for the message above. 5070 ti 16GB is AMAZING btw coming from 1060 3GB 🫡

[fringe dagger]

Nice upgrade

How much was the system

[flint ibex]

If an AIO doesn't come with pre-applied paste, is a dot in the center still the best application method?

and is the paste that comes with the AIO (if a tube is included) good enough? Or should I get a separate brand of paste?

[knotty sparrow]

Best is technically spreading it out yourself with a credit card or something.
I go for the X or + pattern on AMD chips. Intel you want to spread because they're much bigger.

Yes the included paste is good enough

[flint ibex]

oh interesting, it always used to be just the dot in the center

it will be a 9800x3d so sounds like an X or +

[knotty sparrow]

X probably because of the IHS shape

Doesn't need to be huge, it'll spread out when you put the cooler on

[flint ibex]

Would you happen to have a picture as an example? I will overthink it without a frame of reference

[ocean garden]

3.3k

[weary raft]

oof

[ocean garden]

I wanted to build a custom 4070 ti but surprisingly my new build is cheaper and way more efficient

It is the best build I’ve ever been on and it looks so clean I’ll be sure to post it in the build channel

[fringe dagger]

wtf

[fringe dagger]

Uh… 3.3k for a 5070ti build is atrocious

[ocean garden]

It had a sale $2.7k with tax steal for me

[fringe dagger]

Are you in the us

[ocean garden]

After being on a 1060 3gb since 2017 I needed this

Yes

[fringe dagger]

You got scammed

Big time

[ocean garden]

Got it from new egg last one in stock

Check out build channel

[ocean garden]

Nvm apparently I can’t send anything in there

I already checked the prices on every part before getting it the build is over $3.5k so I actually saved a lot

[ocean garden]

I sent you a friend request to send you more info on the build with pics

[flint ibex]

maybe like so? maybe a tiny bit extra?

after application

(this is from a video)

I also saw a video with stencils to do cool patterns lol

[low pumice]

Just do X pattern corner to corner

It's not a big enough IHS to need x pattern plus the dots

[flint ibex]

So like the image I showed but just a little further to each corner?

[low pumice]

Ye

[flint ibex]

Cool thanks, looking forward to stressing when the time comes to do it 😄

[vocal fable]

Try not to think too much of it, chances are if you think you have enough you probably have enough

My 1st build I stressed about it, then when I case swapped and got a new cooler I didn’t even think much of it

I was like “that’s enough I can always add more if I really have to”

Temps are fine so far

[flint ibex]

I think the thing I always worry about is the paste spilling over the side and causing issues. I've seen videos like from Jayz where he purposely makes it spill over the sides and says it's fine, but I don't want to have blobs of paste everywhere even if it's not a problem.

[knotty sparrow]

Modern paste is non conductive so it won't hurt anything. It's just a little more mess to clean later.

[harsh crow]

this is plenty.

[harsh crow]

get PTM7950, very little mess.

[flint ibex]

ive been planning to just use the paste that comes with my aio

[sinful heart]

If he has to purposely do it then dont worry lol

Should be fine if it even does

But preapplied paste will be just fine too

I think with an aio it probably wont even matter like that

[flint ibex]

Yeah my aio doesn't have preapplied, I will use the x pattern and watch temps

[severe moon]

Custom front panel 💀

[strange flume]

Eh

Just buy the wood panel lol

[severe moon]

You can’t

I’m 3d printing a new front panel with airflow potential

Attaching this mesh to it

[strange flume]

You can get the black one rn

For the white one

Check here

https://www.reddit.com/r/lianli/comments/1ffg6b0/new_dan_a3_wood_panel_available_separately/

Confirmed by the manufacturer so you could just wait if you want beech

The black also looks good on white tbh lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/mffpc/s/nVV2lP9fQP

[severe moon]

All of them say out of stock

Only option is buying the full case

But I can easily 3D print one for $25

[strange flume]

Damn

I mean for $25 I could buy one here but it'd be a little more in shipping to usa

Pretty light piece so it'd be not too bad if you wanted the real deal

[severe moon]

Where are you that you are able to get the panel?

[strange flume]

AU

[serene token]

yeah we tend to have everything in stock and amazing deals here 🤥

[strange flume]

It won't be cheaper lol

Not by quite a bit lol

He'd have it if he wanted it tho

[flint ibex]

For top mounted rads, does it matter if the tubes are in the front or back of the case?

[low pumice]

No

[flint ibex]

Cool, ty

[simple anchor]

Does anyone know what the stock fans in the Meshify 2 (non-RGB) are?

I'm wondering if there was a reason why it had 140mm fans lol

Well half of the Aorus logo isn't covered by a fan now

[flint ibex]

Google says Dynamic X2 GP-14

also confirmed on their website

[simple anchor]

hmm

I would guess that there's probably a reason for that and I should have gotten 140mm instead of 120mm for my new ones

mostly air flow

Oh there are no reverse though 🗿

Well at least it doesn't sound like a semi truck now

Although I've had it completely open since I replaced the front fans and it's only a degree or two higher enclosed, so maybe that's just expected

[simple anchor]

Okay so what all can I do about bubbles in an AIO? I can't really lean it over 45 degrees for half an hour, the case alone is 20 pounds and I don't think anything I have is going to stop it from falling over.

[strange flume]

You will always have bubbles

You can't perfectly fill an aio, the heat expansion could crack the aio open

But try and work as much as you can out of the pump

You will get the occasional caught in there regardless but just do what you can

[severe moon]

Drink AIO juice

[sleek fox]

Delish

[cedar sigil]

yum

[flint ibex]

Just want to check before I mount the block, is this gonna be ok?

[sacred pagoda]

That's plenty of paste

[sacred pagoda]

Those mounting brackets say AM4, idk if you're meant to use them or if there's AM5 ones

[flint ibex]

The thermal right kit says am4/5, the documentation inside only says am4. I think they just didn't update the docs/numbers

Time to mount

[sleek fox]

if it doesn't mount

then you know it's wrong

[flint ibex]

It worked

[vocal fable]

Thermalright AM4 is AM5 compatible as far as I am aware

[sinful heart]

Am4 is am5 compatible

Thats why the ihs is thick

[weary raft]

And (unlike a certain blue company) kept the same mounting for am5

Instead of changing it like every socket for some strange reason

(well, not every socket but yeah)

Though that being said, amd did Change mounting several times in the past sockets

[knotty sparrow]

For threadripper/epyc yeah. The consumer stuff has used the same mount since FM2 iirc, assuming you use the stock one.

The hole pattern changed slightly but the stock bracket itself with the 2 clips has not

[sinful heart]

I dont understand why amd didnt make the socket taller for am5 so that way the ihs can be thinner

[sleek fox]

Compatibility with coolers

They wanted to make sure AM4 mounts still work on older coolers

[sinful heart]

Yeah but if the socket was taller and the ihs was thinner it would be the same height

[sleek fox]

Mounting hardware wouldn't work then

Also coldplates wouldn't be right either

Not that it really matters because ultimately your chip is gonna skyrocket to 95 C anyway

[sinful heart]

Yeah because of the benchmark mode boosting algo lol

Keep pushing until thermal limit

But with some simple changes you can really see how cool it can get

I just wonder how much cooler it would be when thinner

[sleek fox]

Wdym "benchmark mode"

That's just

[knotty sparrow]

To do that, you need longer, more fragile pins

[sleek fox]

PB2

[sinful heart]

Yeah itll boost as high as it can until it hits a thermal or power limit

[sleek fox]

Like it's not some "benchmark cheating tool" or anything

It's just how Ryzen operates

And it works

Like really well

And 95°C is normal now

[harsh crow]

I just learned one of my Dynamic X2 GP18 fans is damaged.

How can I fix this or do I need to warranty it?

[harsh crow]

Well I found the problem.

[weary raft]

Some play in the bearing is normal

[harsh crow]

The piece that looks like a washer is snapped

[weary raft]

it's like that so they could actually slide the piece onto the shaft

[harsh crow]

The magnetism to hold the fan in place is far weaker than the other one I have.

[harsh crow]

Oh okay

I thought it snapped.

[knotty sparrow]

Does it make noise? If not it's fine

Ofc it might NOW since you exposed the bearing

[harsh crow]

The magnetism to hold it is weak to the point where it lowers the fan beyond the frame causing it to grind against the fan bracket

[knotty sparrow]

Grinding, so yes noise. RMA

[flint ibex]

Well, I am one lucky son of a gun. Somehow I missed the latch when I mounted my aio, so it was off-center the whole time. I was spiking to 90-94c for 3-5 seconds during anta extreme. After remounting and repasting, i am peaking at 84 during the extreme benchmark.

It's a miracle I didn't break it for real. Hard to believe this is like my 8th build

[knotty sparrow]

Hoo that is lucky. There's at least 2 documented cases of the CPU burning up in the socket because it was misaligned in the socket.

[flint ibex]

im glad i got over my anxiety and re-did the block

i ran out of paste right on the last drop too

im so close to having my timings dialed in for 6400, interested to see how they perform during a long form test

i have 3 left to refine then im gonna call it good for a bit, then i get to do it all over with the GPU and maybe enable PBO

[sacred pagoda]

CPUs throttle to stay under thermal limits (and 95c is safe for am5). But yeah glad you figured it out so it'll actually work as intended

enable PBO

bro pbo is gonna be a bigger perf increase than a few hundred extra mhz on the ram

[flint ibex]

all the research i did yesterday when having issues was pointing to the 'non-binary' ram being the issue, but it looks like it was being masked by something else. and the way my adhd works, once i saw how time intensive doing the timing testing was, i became obsessed with locking in the ram as much as i could.

From the little research I've done the PBO mode is just picking one of the modes in the BIOS, I dont know if I will get into manual tuning of the CPU or not

today i am peaking at 78c for anta, so it's only getting better

[harsh crow]

Am I able to refill my LT720 there appears to be some sort of fill port on the side.

I noticed lately that a lot of fluid has been missing from it, it feels/sounds like maybe a solid 20-30% of the fluid is gone.

With it I have noticed my cpu has been getting hotter quicker and reaching slightly higher temps.

I found a article that said this.

[sleek fox]

okay NGL

I'd get an LT720 just for that

sadly, expensive

[harsh crow]

how easy is it to refill an aio?

[harsh crow]

performance and visuals are worth it, you should get it.

[harsh crow]

I can confirm that my LT720 has this same hole that looks like a fill port.

[sleek fox]

so very expensive tho

[sleek fox]

get distilled/deionized, crack open, fill until full, screw top on

[sleek fox]

Also, fun fact you can totally just integrate the rad into a custom loop when the pump fails

[weary raft]

hmm yes, the illegal (literally) warranty void sticker

[harsh crow]

oh that's neat.

[severe moon]

Is this any radiator?

[sleek fox]

this is specifically the LT720's radiator

AIO radiator you don't have to throw away once the pump dies

[harsh crow]

iirc it's a aluminum?

[sleek fox]

Don't think so

FFS

[harsh crow]

yup

[sleek fox]

It totally is

I guess you can still integrate it into an aluminum loop

[harsh crow]

What does FFS mean?

[sleek fox]

but that's just stupid

[sleek fox]

For [EXPLETIVE]'s Sake

[harsh crow]

Ohh okay.

I want to top off the fluid but idk if I should warranty it instead.

[sleek fox]

do you still have warranty on it?

[harsh crow]

It's like 2 years old now?

5 year warranty so yeah

@sleek fox your thoughts on it? Because if I warranty it, I will need to buy an AIO to keep my pc cooled down while it's being warrantied.

[sleek fox]

IDK honestly

[severe moon]

Yeah I guess reusing a radiator makes sense

Literally a block of metal

Is there any worry of residue buildup in the radiator?

[harsh crow]

How can I check?

[severe moon]

Idk. Spend a couple hundred on a micro surgical camera 💀

[harsh crow]

....

yeah real quick lemme go do that at my local walmart lmao

[severe moon]

Idk if buildup is much of a worry

Since AIO are usually just dionized water with maybe some chemicals for keeping it clean

The real buildup you gotta worry about is with dyed solution

[harsh crow]

If I refill my AIO should I drain the fluid completely and refill it with only the new fluid?

[flint ibex]

Was curious for anyone with a 9800x3d with a thermalright AIO, what are you idle temps like?

[weary raft]

Just top it off with more distilled water

Aio fluid is full of additives for anti corrosion and anti microbial protection

If you are going to drain it all, you'll need to make sure to add those back

[harsh crow]

just plain distilled water will work like the stuff I find at the store?

[weary raft]

Yeah

[harsh crow]

thank you

[toxic trout]

I got a nzxt kraken bought it in like 2023 or some used it for a am4 platform, but I currently upgraded my system to a am5 platform will it fit on am5 or do I have to buy anything specific?

[weary raft]

am5 uses the same mounting as am4

[knotty sparrow]

*as long as it doesn't change the backplate

[toxic trout]

Okay bet

[severe moon]

35C 7900xt at max graphics + fsr quality 1080p in satisfactory

literally running my gpu at room temp

[twin coral]

hey guys i bought a ryzen 5 5600 what is the best bedget coller for it

cooler*

[severe moon]

no overclocking, the included cooler should be enough

Otherwise

$35 Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE - overkill but best value

$30 ID-COOLING FROZN A620 PRO SE - overkill

$17 Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE - cheaper and will do the job

[sacred pagoda]

35C is not room temp 😅

[severe moon]

Florida

[harsh crow]

What cooling solution are you using?

[severe moon]

2 slim 120 intakes on bottom

2 intakes on AIO at top and 1 outtake on AIO above PSU

2 outtakes on side

[harsh crow]

mind sending a picture?

[quasi zodiac]

This may be a commonly asked question but what's the best AIO on the market preferably white in color. 9800x3d cpu if it helps answer the question.

I scrolled a bit to see if it was a recently asked question but didn't see it. Thanks in advance.

[sacred pagoda]

Thermalright makes good stuff starting around $50
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jpKnTW/thermalright-aqua-elite-argb-v4-6617-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-aqua-elite-360-white-argb-v4
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VnMMnQ/thermalright-frozen-prism-argb-704-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-prism-360-white-argb
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/F9kH99/thermalright-frozen-infinity-360-argb-689-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-infinity-360-white
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/YXFmP6/thermalright-aqua-elite-v3-6617-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-aqua-elite-360-white-v3
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jFYRsY/thermalright-frozen-edge-69-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-fe360-white
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9VmNnQ/thermalright-frozen-notte-argb-7237-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-notte-360-white-argb-d1

$80 but has an lcd screen on the pump
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/y3vD4D/thermalright-frozen-warframe-argb-7084-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-frozen-warframe-360-white-argb

$100+, also have lcd displays
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/27TFf7/thermalright-frozen-warframe-ultra-argb-7084-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-fw360-ultra-argb-white
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/R9kH99/thermalright-mjolnir-vision-360-argb-69-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mjolnir-vision-360-white-argb

they should all have pretty similar performance and be plenty for a 9800x3d

[harsh crow]

Wow AIOs have gotten cheap.

[sacred pagoda]

Thermalright the goat

[harsh crow]

How does the Thermalright Infinity compare to my LT720?

360mm vs 360mm.

Wondering because it looks like it'd be a solid Infinity Mirror option at under $100.

[sacred pagoda]

I honestly don't know, they're probably pretty similar though

[flint ibex]

GamersNexus considers the frozen prism the best value AIO on the market

[severe moon]

Thermalright Frozen Notte is apparently the higher end model

its the one i got

[sacred pagoda]

Yeah it's linked, just didn't imbed

[severe moon]

Personally, I should have gone with a 280mm

I’m in the lian li A3 and my psu exhaust has to go through my radiator

If I went 280mm I could have the psu exhaust straight out and have room to move it up and leave more cable organization room.

[sacred pagoda]

Thermalright doesn't make 280s as far as I can tell :(

[quasi zodiac]

So Thermalright frozen notte should be the one to look into then. Sorry for the delay.

But you say there all pretty close to the same as far as cooling capability?

[severe moon]

Probably negligible difference in temps

But if they’re the same price might as well

Gotta say my experience with the AIO was super easy.

[quasi zodiac]

And forgive me for sounding dumb but what's the main difference between the "warframe" and "mjolnir"

[severe moon]

Whut

Mjolnir seems to have a bigger screen

[quasi zodiac]

I had a bad experience with an Lian li AIO some years ago, but figured I'd give it another go.

[low pumice]

Larger and a removable screen

[quasi zodiac]

Ah gotcha. So pretty much same just screen size then

[severe moon]

They’re all probably the same performance

Just look different

[quasi zodiac]

Got it. I guess for the extra penny's might as well get a bigger scree...

[severe moon]

Sure

I don’t need a screen since my pc has no glass

Don’t spend $70 more for an AIO with a screen

[quasi zodiac]

Gotcha. I should probably look into newer fans too...

[severe moon]

Get a $50 AIO and then spend money on one of those mini displays

Doing a custom mini display would be much more creative and impressive

And they’re like $25 for the basic one

[quasi zodiac]

Link me please

I may need to look into how to set them up.

[severe moon]

Google PC Mini display

There’s a bunch

[quasi zodiac]

Needs a few things TBH

[severe moon]

If u can find a screen to go in where the psu is showing and put a car on it that would be sick

[quasi zodiac]

Racecar=life

[severe moon]

Keep those white fans until they die or make noise

[quasi zodiac]

Ill look into them. I will probably get the screen on the AIO as well lol

[severe moon]

Don’t spend unnecessary money

[severe moon]

$70 more for an AIO screen is ridiculous

[low pumice]

Can always follow this guide
https://youtu.be/RTdniu3gn3Y

[severe moon]

Exactly

[quasi zodiac]

Ive already started to have issues with the fans. Had to replace some of them. But I messed up and got the v2 so some are slightly different.

[quasi zodiac]

Love his videos. Will 100% watch this again and see what I can retain. His videos helped me learn to build.

[low pumice]

Pretty old but still applicable

Although random Chinese screen prices might be going up soon from tariffs

[quasi zodiac]

Thanks for the help you two.

[low pumice]

You're welcome

[quasi zodiac]

Any input on white 120mm fans that are pretty solid as well? My mf120 are doing good but some are starting to have rgb issues and get loud bearing noise.

[low pumice]

Thermalright has some decent cheap 120mm fans of all styles

[quasi zodiac]

Looking for a solid cfm and something I don't need to worry about weather it's the rgb not working properly or bearings breaking down quickly.

Ill scope the thermalright again

[low pumice]

Don't worry about cfm, every manufacturer measures it differently, bearing type doesn't matter that much, all have tradeoffs, dbb lasts longer but the bearings themselves are louder, fdb is classic, and then there's some random manufacturer specific bearings

Still waiting for GN to get their fan testing going so we can have standardized third party testing data

[quasi zodiac]

Steve will do it right too lol

Ill have a look at the thermalright again. Thank you.

[harsh crow]

My CPU has running running a lot warmer lately. can a lack of coolant in my aio cause that? I assume my aio has lost maybe 20-30% of it's coolant since I can clearly shake the fluid around

[severe moon]

Only a taste test could tell

[harsh crow]

huh?

[severe moon]

You heard me

[weary raft]

Is the pump loud? Moving the aio around will always cause a sloshing noise

Also is your ambient temperature warmer

The smaller the ∆t, the less effective the thermal transfer will be

[severe moon]

How long has it been since you changed thermal paste?

[harsh crow]

Pump is the same, but for slothing noise is audibly much more noticable and the aio also feels lighter physically.

[harsh crow]

ambient stayed the same

[harsh crow]

What does "∆t" mean?

[harsh crow]

Fresh PTM7950

[severe moon]

Did the temps change after replacing thermal paste

[severe moon]

Change in temperature

[harsh crow]

Started happening before changing the paste

[sinful heart]

Temperature delta

[harsh crow]

I first noticed the change in temps about a couple weeks ago and it's been becoming progressively more noticable.

[sinful heart]

So it stayed the same even after a repaste is what you are saying

[harsh crow]

yes

granted this is new ptm7950 so it raised slightly but it's been going back down to where it was a week ago

[sinful heart]

So the pump is probably fine but there is probably less flow because of less fluid perhaps

[harsh crow]

so just buy some distilled water and top off the aio?

[sinful heart]

Like because there is less fluid, maybe not all of it is circulating

[sinful heart]

Try to find if your aio has a little refill bottle thing

I am not sure if all of them have those

But the one i got years ago had a separate bottle with some of the fluid with it

For topping off

[harsh crow]

This is someone else's LT720 but mine has the exact same thing.

oh like a actual bottle?

mine never came with one

[sinful heart]

Oh

Ok hold on

[sinful heart]

Yeah so I guess you can add some distilled water

Try not to add too much tho

Dont want to dilute it too much

[harsh crow]

How much should I add? I think I have lost around 20% of my fluid

[sinful heart]

Damn how you know

Is it actually lighter to hold

[harsh crow]

rough feel based on sound, the tapping trick, and yes it's physically lighter

[sinful heart]

Yeah true more air would make more slosh sounds

I would just fill it

Not much else can be done so just go with distilled water

[harsh crow]

Understood.

[sinful heart]

Idk if this is even a concern really because I never dealt with this ngl

Shouldnt be that deep really

Should be fine

[harsh crow]

Should I be surprised that I am experiencing this in 3 years? the aio has been running pretty much 24/7 for 3 years now

[sinful heart]

Because the majority of the original fluid should still be there anyway

[sinful heart]

Probably went faster because of so much use

[harsh crow]

my pc stays on when I am away/asleep

[sinful heart]

24/7 3 years is a lot

[harsh crow]

so it's within the expected range then

[sinful heart]

If it was 8 hours a day that would be 9 years

Ok I don't think it scales like that but yeah

Thats a lot of usage

[sinful heart]

Yea

[harsh crow]

is diluted water expensive?

Never had to shop for it

[sinful heart]

Nah you can get a distilled gallon not much more than a normal one

[harsh crow]

gotcha

i doubt I need a gallon xD

[sinful heart]

Usually what people buy/sell

Maybe can use it for something else

[weary raft]

Difference in temperature* (∆ means delta, which means the difference between one value to another)

[severe moon]

Change = difference

[weary raft]

Well, yes, but saying change could be slightly misleading since change is often referring to a difference between 2 points of time

[severe moon]

As a chemistry major, I feel threatened

[marsh badge]

i got confused too

change is not the same as difference

[weary raft]

all change is a difference but not all difference is a change

[harsh crow]

Gotcha, thank you.

[harsh crow]

what are the current recommendations for good coolers on a budget?

I am looking for a cooler ideally under $100 that I can later reuse for a 7950x or hotter chip.

[sacred pagoda]

I know the dual tower thermalright coolers can do a 7800x3d no problem, not sure if the 7950 is significantly hotter

Thermalright also has 360mm aios starting at $50 or so that would work

[sleek fox]

Phantom Spirit 120 SE can tame a 7950X

It's gonna be above 90 but below 95 at full load iirc

AIO might give a TINY bit more boost headroom tho

Besides AIOs look sick

[shrewd juniper]

I'd just grab the cheapest 360mm thermalright aio atm

[spark fractal]

Does anyone in #old-cooling know if the Lian Li UNI Fan SL-Infinity 140 Reverse Blade-Single Pack-ARGB fans are compatible with the LIANLI UNI Fan SLIN120 Exclusive Controller, UNI HUB in-CONNECT3, Black, Compatible with L-Connect 3?

I'd like to use the 140mm fans, but they don't come in a 3-pack with a fan hub so I'm going to buy the 140mm fans and hub separately. Just want to make sure they work together.

Thanks!!

Lian Li Fan Hub
https://www.amazon.com/Exclusive-Controller-CONNECT3-Compatible-L-Connect/dp/B0BPM1HZZ8

Lian Li 140 mm Case Fans
https://a.co/d/cqzZqGZ

[harsh crow]

Are the TA aios any good?

[harsh crow]

Gotcha. I plan to use the cooler for a 7950x or better when I upgrade. It's going to be used for a server PC

[shrewd juniper]

TR as in Thermal Right? yes TA ive no idea what that is lol

[harsh crow]

My bad I should've just said Thermalright.

I have seen it abbreviated as TA, first time for me seeing it as TR.

[shrewd juniper]

All good lol

[weary raft]

Huh

I've not seen thermal right be abbreviated to TA

Though TR also is used in alot of acronyms

[severe moon]

Thermal, right?

[shrewd juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[woven vale]

Hey so

I have 4 fans on my Cade already that came pre installed and i have 3 more where should I put them

[sacred pagoda]

Depends on your case

[chilly bough]

Anybody have an idea of when backorders usually get fulfilled with newegg? I'm moving out of my uni place in around 2 weeks and don't want it delivering here after I'm gone. Original estimate was for today but it is now saying "New release date update soon". I'm sure its case-by-case, but if anybody had a general timeframe it would be much appreciated

[shrewd juniper]

i'd say best bet would be to contact customer support, it'll depend on the product

[steel forge]

Was wondering, if I need a cpu cooler than can fit in a SFF case would a L9i from Noctua be enough for cooling a 13600k? I can fit the slightly larger 65mm one but there would only be about 1.5 inches of room between the glass panel and fan.

[harsh crow]

I don't know about the cooler itself but no long as the cooler/fans aren't touching the glass than the more the marrier.

[steel forge]

Thanks, also for another build that I was swapping parts for a more retro build I was wondering if you guys might be able to tell me the fan directions I should choose. This old no name brand case I got from FB marketplace has spots for 10 120mm fans. Also I'm going to air cool the cpu with cooler that has a fan(s) facing from the front/back of the case.

[sacred pagoda]

I wouldn't use the bottom right spot bc having two fans at a 90° like that can cause more turbulence than it's worth for the extra air

[steel forge]

Ok, will do, thank you.

[sacred pagoda]

Also you don't necessarily need to use that many fans if you don't want to. 3 front Intake 1 rear exhaust is usually fine

[harsh crow]

having that exhaust up top may cause the top intake to pull in hot air

[sacred pagoda]

Yeah maybe, you could just drop the top center fan

[weary raft]

Top could just be a passive ish exhaust

[steel forge]

I seem to have miscalculated... my RAM is super duper tall. Can't put my fans over the I/O side either cause they are about the same height (cause of a massive VRM heatsink). Anyone got any low profile DDR4 ram recommendations or do I have to return the cooler ;_;.

[novel helm]

Does anyone know a mounting bracket for a reservoir for a 200mm fan

[sacred pagoda]

I mean if the case will close you can leave the fan where it is

That plus the middle fan should be enough

[sinful heart]

Looks like it will close from the picture

You can have the fan like that and have the middle fan on the second tower no problem

But you can get the teamgroup t-force ram if you are not satisfied with this

[severe moon]

Two personal issues with my Intel i5-14600K (wish I went with a 7700x instead).

• CPU goes into idle after a second and then hikes temps whenever a key is pressed (cau raise up to 20 degrees instantly)
• CPU temp is overall just higher than I'd like, what bios settings would reduce temperature (or fluctuations in temperature) without an intense decrease in gaming performance.

My main game is Marvel Rivals at 1440p 120hz.

My GPU is in the 40s while my CPU can sometimes hit 70s . I got a 360mm thermaltake AIO and just recently applied thermal paste.

This is my setup in a A3

360mm aio on top

[sacred pagoda]

Tbh might be better to leave off that third fan on the aio

It's recirculating hot air from the gpu as well as the other 2 fans on the rad. Letting it convect might be better idk

[severe moon]

well the last fan pulls the outtake from the psu

idk if i can redirect hot psu air anywhere else

i wish i could

[sacred pagoda]

Right but it's also pulling hot cpu and gpu air through

[severe moon]

i definitely think the psu air is the biggest problem

i have those two outtakes in the center tho

u think if i add another outtake in the back itll help?

[sacred pagoda]

Idk if it makes that big a difference. It's probably just intel sucking

[severe moon]

bro i literally cannot get cooler

im doing lowest possible graphics marvel rivals, with upscaling and fps maxed 120

undervolted gpu 10%

[sacred pagoda]

Also 70s really isnt something to stress over unless it's throttling

[severe moon]

gpu is in 40s

[severe moon]

but my fans run higher too

[sacred pagoda]

The idle and ramping up does sound annoying

[severe moon]

and a completely mesh case is kinda loud

[severe moon]

it doesnt hurt me much, but id prefer it not to do that

do u know if the windows power plan cpu settings might help lower temps?

[sacred pagoda]

I mean you could try undervolting to lower temps overall

[severe moon]

ye

how much undervolt u think

nothing insane

[sacred pagoda]

No clue, I've never undervolted a cpu

[severe moon]

lol

me when i buy 7900xt but then undervolt it 10%

[sacred pagoda]

For the idle issue, you could try making your fan curve be based off of an average temperature

Wouldn't solve the temp spike but might keep the fans from doing crazy ramping

[severe moon]

They don’t ramp like crazy

I don’t notice it at least

[sacred pagoda]

oh

so you have two temperature related issues that don't actually affect you at all

i.e if you uninstalled your monitoring software there would be no issue

[severe moon]

My fans are loud

And if I lower them temps go up

[sacred pagoda]

who cares about temps if you ain't throttling

[severe moon]

@sacred pagoda if I disable some e cores do you think that would improve temps without hurting performance
Much?

Cause I don’t really do much heavy workstation stuff

[sacred pagoda]

again idk anything bout new intel cpus

[severe moon]

Mostly gaming and some figma / coding

There’s barely any decent info on Google on how to do it and they barely explain what’s happening

Like IA AC and IA DC

Like my default values are 0.7 and 1.10 but someone said to make them both 1.0

[sacred pagoda]

prolly go ask in #cpus-mobo-and-memory and see if someone more knowledgeable than me can give advice

[severe moon]

Ok

All I did was lower my ram speed a little and change my fan curve

I’ll see if it’s any better

ill see if theres a better config for my psu

id much rather prefer to shoot out the hot psu from the sides instead the top

and also then i could do triple intake on the aio

[severe moon]

@sacred pagoda

opinions?

basically id flip the psu to outake down

push the psu down to the bottom so theres room for the cables

[sacred pagoda]

Might help

[severe moon]

it might hurt the gpu temp a little

is it safe for the psu?

[sacred pagoda]

Pretty sure they're fine in any orientation

[severe moon]

will look ugly lol

but theres no glass

so im good

[lucid walrus]

what is the best high-end cpu cooler

[severe moon]

like water cooling or air?

[sacred pagoda]

What cpu are you cooling with it?

[lucid walrus]

AIO

[lucid walrus]

R7 9800X3D

[sacred pagoda]

I'd just grab any thermalright 360mm aio

PCPartPicker can help show a big list of all of them

Performance should be very similar, most difference is asthetics

[lucid walrus]

TR is a cheap brand

[sacred pagoda]

Inexpensive, yes. But their products are high quality

[lucid walrus]

i'm looking for something like a high-end aios like: nzxt, corsair and ek wb.

[severe moon]

meh

unless u wanna spend more on purely aesthetics, they don't provide any cooling advantage.

@lucid walrus If you want "high-quality" in terms of performance, get an the Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro

$91 for their 360mm pro https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Xh9nTW/arctic-liquid-freezer-iii-pro-a-rgb-360-77-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-acfre00184a

both white and black versions

[sacred pagoda]

Yeah arctic if you want more cooling capacity (not that you need it for a 9800x3d)

Nzxt is just garbage, Corsair is overpriced and meh, ekwb might be decent but also overpriced I think

[lucid walrus]

thanks guys for the info

i want a high built quality and high-performance aios for high-end cpus like 9800x3d

[lucid walrus]

👆

[lucid walrus]

are you guys sleeping

[sacred pagoda]

No, we already gave you our advice

[lucid walrus]

thanks, and any lcd version advice?

[sacred pagoda]

Thermalright has a few. Not sure about Arctic

[severe moon]

Arctic doesn’t make any

But ngl forget the lcd they’re mid

[harsh crow]

Those AIOs, you are simply paying for brand name and aesthetics.

If you really wanted to spend more for better performance, pickup something like the LT720, LS720, or any Arctic LF III 360/420mm aio and set any of the above in a push/pull config paired with PTM7950 to gain maybe 5-10c difference

Something you should keep in mind is that unless you are planning to overclock the CPU than having a better aio doesn't make a difference once you have one good enough to keep temps under TJMAX.

Any 360mm from Thermalright can keep the 9800x3D under TJMAX when gaming. If your doing CAD or something that is extremely CPU intensive than you shouldn't be buying a 9800x3D but a 9950X or 9950X3D or any of the dual CCD 7000 series CPUs if your on a budget.

[cedar sigil]

Also, cooler master MasterLiquid. $99 usd for the 360mm.

[harsh crow]

Doesn't that AIO have a lower average pump lifespan?

[cedar sigil]

It does?

[harsh crow]

I was hearing a lot of complaints regarding that last year.

I do not know if it's been fixed or not.

[cedar sigil]

Ig we'll see, I haven't had any problems so far with it

[harsh crow]

That's good.

[harsh crow]

Any tips on how I can keep my 7950X under 84c in Sustained All Core Loads?

I am currently using:

• LT720 in Push/Pull with the original fans + P12 ARGB
• PTM7950 for the thermal compound
• AM5 Contact Frame
• and I have a standing fan that draws fresh air from my window and blows it towards me and my pc (ambient of around 10c give or take).
• All fans and pump are maintained at 100%

[low pumice]

Test with and without push/pull, added turbulence from using different fans may hinder you instead of improving thermals

[harsh crow]

the push/pull brought it from around 91c down to 84c.

[low pumice]

Giving both enough time to saturate?

[harsh crow]

yeah.

overnight test

so about 12hr of all core load.

[low pumice]

Overnight sounds like you'd be really dependent on room temp lmao

[harsh crow]

the pc and I are receiving a constant blast of fresh air thanks to the standing fan that's pulling air through my window and blasting it right at the pc and I, mostly focused on the pc. ambient hovers around 10c.

[low pumice]

Anyways you should mess with pump % too, sometimes the pump is too strong at 100% and ends up creating more turbulence without helping temps, test something like 70% or 80% set pump

[harsh crow]

what fan control software do you recommend? I have been having problems with FanControl not being able to control my pump/fan speeds so I have been forced to set every thing to full speed in bios.

[low pumice]

I'd just use bios, there's some stuff happening with the backend Windows software that fancontrol and other hardware control software uses rn

[harsh crow]

gotcha.

[low pumice]

(https://youtu.be/H_O5JtBqODA)

[harsh crow]

regarding bios, I see multiple fan inputs but only 3 show up as spinning. any ideas? I am using the fractal's fan hub for 7/9 of my fans, 2/9 have a direct connection to the motherboard so those can be controlled individually, and the pump is plugged into the pump header but I feel like I have no control over it's speed in bios.

[low pumice]

Sounds like fan hub is just going to copy paste one reading into the mobo and any fan speed you set in mobo would be the same for everything you've plugged into the hub

Pump control can be a bit wacky in bios and might not always be with all the fan speed settings

May need to change its mode too

[harsh crow]

ran a few tests and it appears all fans are spinning and adjusting to the percentages set it's just that because I have mixed fans it can't provide a RPM reading.

[harsh crow]

solved the pump control, for some reason it needs to be set to DC vs PWM.

[low pumice]

Yea sounds about right

Pump usually not pwn

[harsh crow]

I have the max pump speed set to roughly 85% now.

and setup a curve for every thing.

[low pumice]

It's Noctua aio time lmao
https://youtu.be/UpNmd3Y9qUU

[severe moon]

Some how my i5-14600K still hits 70s with a 360mm AIO, 4 disabled e cores, low settings 1440p marvel rivals with balanced upscaling & 180hz

Is Marvel rivals just a cpu intensive game?

[sacred pagoda]

UE5 slop

Also low settings and upscaling is going to put more load on the cpu

Also 70s under load is not that hot

[severe moon]

GPU sits in 50s

[sacred pagoda]

Sounds like your gpu isn't working very hard then

[harsh crow]

What compound are you using?

[severe moon]

came with my thermalright aio

[sacred pagoda]

Thermalright paste is pretty decent, similar to arctic mx6 I think

[short jacinth]

if i buy the Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120SE CPU Air Cooler would i be limited when it comes to buying memory since the fan is so big

[low pumice]

You have 60mm of clearance on it, which will fit most sticks of ram

[short jacinth]

does it matter which way i put the fans whether on the right or left side

I have a b550 m pro 4 motherboard

[marsh badge]

it doesn't matter

as long as the fans face in the right direction

aka sucking air in from the front of your case

and blowing it out back

[rain berry]

guys a friend of mine is asking if he have to change the thermal paste because its been used for 5 years but the temps are fine

[sacred pagoda]

If temps are fine it's not necessary

5 years is pretty long for paste though. If he doesn't have any he might wanna get a tube just to have on hand

[rain berry]

Aight thanks

[harsh crow]

What are the best AIOs currently? I have a LT720 but would like something better or possibly upgradable. Case is a Fractal Torrent and I am open to the idea of getting a new case

[sacred pagoda]

if you already have 360mm I think the only step up is a thicker rad

which I know Arctic has, dunno about other brands

[harsh crow]

I am debating getting the Eisbaer Aurora Pro HPE aio from Alphacool.

Unlike most AIOs it claims it is a full copper design at 30mm thick, and iirc I can upgrade it down the line.

[latent juniper]

Is there a difference in airflow between 15 mm slim fans and the normal 25 mm fans?

[low pumice]

Yes, they perform quite a bit worse

[latent juniper]

If anything. Im down to 4 case fans. 2 for exhaust, two intake on the side.
The 2 bottom is what'll be needed to give more air to the gpu. So i was lookin at slim fans to just put something for the gpu to breath better as its a 3 slot

[sacred pagoda]

Fwiw I actually found that in a case with very little clearance under the gpu, no fans was better than 25mm fans

So you could just try without any fans and see how temps are

[latent juniper]

So far, i feel like it just helps guide airflow. Max speed is 2000rpm atm. So ima keep em for now

[harsh crow]

How well do you guys think this will cool my radiator?

https://www.amazon.com/Wathai-5300rpm-Airflow-Brushless-Cooling/dp/B07SGWNV5J/ref=mp_s_a_1_25_sspa?

120mm 5,300 RPM server fan with PWM control

Noise level is not that bad. Quieter then my standing fan

I noticed they draw up to 2A at full speed, I would be plugging it into my fan hub from the Fractal Torrent which is connected by a SATA connector so will that be a concern?

[errant axle]

Really

Thermal paste sucks! Kryosheets all day!

[harsh crow]

Anyone know of how oneself can modify a PC fan to be a RGB fan either through attachments or directly modifying the body?

[sacred pagoda]

Step 1: just buy thermalright c12cs because it'll probably be less painful and cheaper

[harsh crow]

Looking to upgrade my fan performance

[sacred pagoda]

You'll see more performance gain by saving up to upgrading that 3070 than you will different fans

[sinful heart]

Brutal truth pill

[harsh crow]

lmao fair, fair. Not my top priority right now because my current fans are starting to wear out.

the hub occasionally becomes unstable and bounces on and off the radiator till it's back in it's proper position and stable

[severe moon]

thermalright c12cs were great for me

i use arctic p12s now tho but dont see a different in performance

[magic wave]

Arctic P series W

[ivory frigate]

I would like to be the first to welcome everyone to the watercooling channel. If you have ANY questions about watercooling please feel free to message me and I can help you out.

[rapid plover]

can you watercool my laptop

[river gorge]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l41YxIeVrD2nbSfYs/giphy.gif

[plush wren]

I am looking to expand my pc tech knowledge to water cooling, so anyone who wants to ask questions can join me 😃

[river gorge]

but aren't you like, the water cooling master @plush wren

or are you just a big fat phony?

[plush wren]

I don't want to take @ivory frigate's thunder away, shhh

BOI

Lemme show you a thing or 2 about DIY LCS box

1. its fun

2. it looks cool if you plan it

3. it comes in boxes

[atomic sundial]

but this catagory says cooling, so can we talk about heatsinks too?

[plush wren]

aio

air

fans

TT Riing Trio

😉

passive cooling is also cooling btw

[ivory frigate]

no more ⛈

I can lose thunder I never had. @plush wren and ThermalMike could run circles around me when it comes to watercooling. They are watercooling, I just adapted to it.

[atomic sundial]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LtPurAiR1I

[river gorge]

damn that is a sexy build

[plush wren]

petg

[lament tundra]

so i'm building a dual socket workstation with some old parts and a supermicro x8dtl-if mobo and 2x xeon x5550's (for now) and need help finding a pair of cpu coolers for it. i had planned on getting some artic cooling freezer 12co's but they dont fit 1366. price needs to be in the 20's since i have to buy 2.

[topaz blaze]

45nm 😥

how much per cpu cooler

[atomic sundial]

https://play3r.net/reviews/cooling/the-best-360mm-aio-cpu-coolers-2019-360mm-shoot-out/

[void lake]

Hello, my buddy is going to put in 6 coolermaster RGB fans in his new PC but only has 1 addressable header connection. they came in 2 sets with their own little controllers. Is there a product that can connect all 6 to the one header connection?

[river gorge]

should have a rgb header splitter

[void lake]

thanks for the response. ill pass the information along @river gorge

[river gorge]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4SR6WS7305&Description=rgb header splitter&cm_re=rgb_header_splitter-_-0HZ-0026-00BW2-_-Product

[paper yacht]

What is the best 120mm radiator?

[river gorge]

That really depends.

What are you trying to cool?

cpu? gpu?

[paper yacht]

cp

cpu

a ryzen 2600x

[river gorge]

budget?

[paper yacht]

i think up to 200

[river gorge]

for a 120mm? do you have room for 240?

[paper yacht]

I can handle

[river gorge]

wait what currency are we talking? lol

[paper yacht]

$?

[river gorge]

usd?

[paper yacht]

yep

[river gorge]

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106505&Description=240mm Thermaltake&cm_re=240mm_Thermaltake-_-35-106-505-_-Product

on sale right now

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA73M8KK6364&Description=240mm Thermaltake&cm_re=240mm_Thermaltake-_-9SIA73M8KK6364-_-Product

[paper yacht]

Copper block with aluminum radiator does not give corrosion? or is nickel plated?

[river gorge]

@plush wren would be better inclined to say, he works for thermaltake 😄

but I don't believe the copper block touches the water.

think of it like a pad.

[plush wren]

Sorry so long to respond lol

The Nickel plating can protect you from galvanic corrosion for some time, but it isn't perfect. Eventuall the plating will wear out (at the rough parts for instance) and expose the aluminum to copper particles and so on.

It is best to simply go with a full copper setup or full Aluminum setup. Copper is better than aluminum for cooling, Aluminum is cheaper and more widely available

[brisk dagger]

have some examples of AIO with only one fan and full copper

[winter wigeon]

customer service sent me here as he couldnt help me find a water block for a gtx970 strix. any ideas? or will I just have up grade gpu?

[river gorge]

what manufacture?

oh nm you said strix

derp moment.

if you aren't looking for a full vga block, and have a spare aio, I would suggest getting the kraken G12 bracket

just swap the crappy vram 80mm fan they have because it's pretty loud.

full block from ekwb is the EK-FC970 GTX .. it is EOL but you might can find it on ebay

[winter wigeon]

the reasom im doing the gpu block isw the fans went out on this onew

[river gorge]

I see

https://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9B-35-186-052&ignorebbr=1&source=region&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-PC-_-pla-_-VGA+Cooling-_-9B-35-186-052&gclid=Cj0KCQjwkoDmBRCcARIsAG3xzl91fG24Wn3Ghc49ALyNWE1R4-4KxNZEcmqqdTLBcn-4JDZV40HvL3MaAjn8EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

that might fit

fits on a 1080 to a MSI HD 7870

according to reviews 😄

looks like a universal type deal.

[winter wigeon]

would work. as its the wife computer 😃 was just looking at the water route as im already doing it for the cpu

[river gorge]

gotcha.

the KRAKEN G12 for NZXT would be nice

I have one on my wifes evga 1060 😛

sec I'll snap a picture.

Works great

They make a fan adapter so you can plug in the 80mm fan directly to the gpu so you can still use fan controller software like msi after burner

It evga precision

[winter wigeon]

thats like a half water half fan?

[river gorge]

Yeah the fan keeps the vram cool

[winter wigeon]

im old so...

[river gorge]

While the AIO cold the gpu chip

[winter wigeon]

ok

[river gorge]

There are all kinds of videos on the bracket

To give you better idea

Corsair makes one as well called the G10 I believe

[winter wigeon]

ya been looking at a lot of the water cooling ones

[river gorge]

The ekwb will run you alot more if you can find it

But that's a full block too

https://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002765

there is one from TT.

[winter wigeon]

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc970-gtx-acetal ?

[river gorge]

yeah that would be one of them. sad thing is the "End of life"

[winter wigeon]

oic

[river gorge]

so you won't find it through Newegg or amazon

hence why I mentioned ebay

[winter wigeon]

ya, its been around for a bit

[river gorge]

are you US?

[winter wigeon]

yes

out in the boonies. so its an issue getting stuff fast... next day takes about a week to get to me

[river gorge]

company named BYKSKI makes all sorts of blocks

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=asus+gtx+970+water+block&_sacat=0

but depending on what type of loop you are going for..

full copper.. aluminum.. acetal/nickel

here is a used card: https://www.ebay.com/itm/USED-ASUS-GeForce-GTX-970-STRIX-GTX970-DC2OC-4GD5-4GB/202658693051?hash=item2f2f663fbb:g:fY4AAOSw2QxcrqWa

60 bucks and you got yourself an OEM air cooler

oh wait that one has one bad fin

but if you're savvy enough you can swap it all out with your old fins

[winter wigeon]

got an"all-in -one " in right now.Feel ready to get stuff for a cutome loop

[river gorge]

yeah it's really fun.

I just converted from AIOs to full custom.

[winter wigeon]

its a headache

[river gorge]

what is?

[winter wigeon]

for me atleast

[river gorge]

trying to think about custom loops/

?

[winter wigeon]

ya

[river gorge]

they make kits 😃

ThermalTake makes nice kits with all the things you need.

[winter wigeon]

got most of it, just hit a snag with the gpu while installing the loop

[river gorge]

ah

[winter wigeon]

looked a t alot of kits and cant find kits for the older stuff. AM3+ board and all

[river gorge]

yeeeeah.

that stuff is getting phased out.

but am4 / ryzen is very affordable 😉

[winter wigeon]

though will switch to the am4 soon... ish

[river gorge]

plus ram prices are dropping like crazy

so you wont spend a kidney for a ddr4 kit anymore.

I see 16gb kits for less than 80 right now.

ryzen 3 I think I seen for 80 bucks too

[winter wigeon]

ya, its just getting the price tag past the wife. just built a new one the the kid and it was almost 3 grand

[river gorge]

2200g I believe it was

wow

got pictures of it?

[winter wigeon]

no. and she moved out(thand god)

[river gorge]

lol

[winter wigeon]

ok. will probably go the the new fans on the gpu with water on the cpu, and that should work until I build another

have a good one

and thank you

[river gorge]

no worries hope you find what you are looking for 😄

[fleet axle]

Hey guys, need help for Noctua NF-A12. PWM. What is the proper way to use their screw? The screws will not able to go further at some point, but the fans are still not tight on the case

[noble rapids]

Is this going into a case pannel?

[fleet axle]

Sorry, my bad guys,. I am being to soft to them

[river gorge]

that's not a bad thing, with pc parts honestly 😃

[misty basin]

hello

[river gorge]

Hello.

[misty basin]

i need help finding out whats the socket type of my cpu

[river gorge]

cool what motherboard

[misty basin]

the motherboard is p6680t

[river gorge]

HP Pavilion?

[misty basin]

yes\

[river gorge]

https://support.hp.com/hr-en/document/c02532954

if looking for upgrades

socket LGA1156

[misty basin]

I was thinking of the i7

i ordered a 8gb graphics card and 16gb of ram

[river gorge]

30 bucks on ebay 😄

[misty basin]

i have a intel i5 3.2ghz cpu

would a i7 2.8 be better?

[river gorge]

are you running issues with gaming?

they are both almost obsolete chips

[misty basin]

some games are a bit laggy

[river gorge]

yeah

almost better to go with the ryzen athlon

[misty basin]

well there intel xeon that fits my socket type

[river gorge]

if you are hard up on cash

[misty basin]

price isnt too big of an issue

which would be best

[river gorge]

to update everything in my opinion

if you like to game, ryzen would be your best choice.

ddr4 ram prices have dropped considerably

[misty basin]

my pc only supports ddr3

but i have already ordered 16gb of ram

i was thinking of upgrading the processor as well

doesnt look like ryzen is supported with this socket type

[river gorge]

no that's why I mentioned upgrading everything 😛

[misty basin]

well with the choices i have for this motherboard what would be my best option

i7, xeon, or?

i know xeon is more error checking and correction but thats all i know much about that

😐

[river gorge]

I'd say the i7

Xeon geared more towards say a server setup.

[misty basin]

yeah thats what i thought

thanks for the help

[marsh iris]

Nzxt kraken x52 is it good

[river gorge]

never used one

but I'm sure it's alright.

[marsh iris]

Ok just want to ask hopefully to upgrade my pc

[scarlet palm]

Hello everyone,

I just bought the Acer Predator Helios 300, and it has been great, however, it has a cooling issue with its CPU. I have noticed that whenever it is downloading things the temperature rises a bit above 50°C which is ok, but not ideal. I could just buy a laptop cooler, but I would not want to do this at the moment. Is there any fix to this issue?

[river gorge]

50c? I wouldn't worry at all.

now if you hit 70+ c then sure.

[graceful vigil]

why...NOT get a laptop cooler? o.0

[topaz blaze]

I have one

[graceful vigil]

that would be the first and simplest 'fix' if it were to start overheating

[topaz blaze]

My little cousin ducked it up and threw it out the window

I'm sad

She also threw my glasses along with it

[scarlet palm]

I thought about the laptop cooler, but I was hoping there was a temporary fix until I get one.

[topaz blaze]

Hi I need a good thermal paste that’s at least under 5$

[river gorge]

under five? won't really find "good" paste.

[lone niche]

peanut butter if its under 5$

dont actually do that

[graceful vigil]

...

[feral patrol]

lol

[cyan gate]

Love it when thermal paste acts like glue so the cpu gets ripped out of a locked socket when you're removing the cooler and bends all the pins. Actually compromised a solder joint too.

[river gorge]

always twist off, never pull directly up.

[glad hare]

Noted 😂

Also mustard is a good enough thermal paste if u dont have anything laying around

Its hard to remove it im pretty sure and it stains

[slim ridge]

uhhhh no do not put mustard on your CPU

Its thermal conductivity is not suitable for long-term use at least

[glad hare]

I know i didnt mean long term

[slim ridge]

I can see it "working" but I wouldn't put any food-based substance inside a computer lol

especially given that "mustard" doesn't refer to one particular combination of things

[glad hare]

And mustard was the best

[slim ridge]

Interesting, I'll have to see how they tested the various compounds

[glad hare]

I can link it for you

[slim ridge]

sure

in the other direction, interesting article about diamond thermal paste: https://hackaday.com/2009/08/03/diamond-thermal-paste/

[glad hare]

https://youtu.be/9xncum0d4Vk

[copper patrol]

is the amd wraith prisim cooler good enough for a 2700x

[river gorge]

yep

[copper patrol]

o ok

thanks

[wanton sparrow]

as far as the aesthetic of case fans are concerned, should i go with a black case and white corsair led fans or a black case and the classic noctua fans but with a corsair lighting nod pro to pick up the slack?

[feral patrol]

hm

[gritty plover]

Completely up to you. You have to pick what you like.

[high orchid]

water cooling worth the hype on i7? or just stick to noctua?

[fallen tartan]

No tuna

Noctua

[copper patrol]

@high orchid you doing overclocking?

if so, then youre going to need a really good cooler

noctua fans can handle overclocking if you get a good cooler

[high orchid]

haven’t built it yet, but probably some

[copper patrol]

AIOs are good for overclocking too

the thing with noctua fans and air coolers that are big, they can cover the RAM slots so its hard to upgrade or sometimes even use the slot if it covers it too much

aios dont have that problem

most dont*

[high orchid]

true

noctua site was showing uh12a for mobo i want to use

[copper patrol]

yeah

most AIOs come with different brackets included for different socket types

also air coolers could be louder than water cooling

[high orchid]

true

[copper patrol]

if your radiator is replacing fans that were already there, than the noise will be the same

[high orchid]

building from scratch

p600s case on the way

[copper patrol]

are you gonna do a custom loop?

[high orchid]

hadn’t planned on it

[copper patrol]

yeah those are kinda hard

and risky too

[high orchid]

case would easily support it

but i would have shit luck for leaks

[copper patrol]

yeah

[fallen tartan]

What i7 are you wanting to get

[copper patrol]

with AIOs, you eliminate the issues for leaks, (make sure it has a warranty) and you dont have to replace the coolant every 6 months

[fallen tartan]

I’d recommend Air cooler especially if you don’t wanna have leaks from water cooled stuff also it’s easier to setup

[high orchid]

i7-8700

[fallen tartan]

Air cooler

[copper patrol]

make sure you get an unlocked processor if you wanna do overclocking

[fallen tartan]

This one is pretty good, it’s brown but I mean it keeps a system cool

[copper patrol]

@high orchid during the buying process, intel marks their unlocked procesors with a K at the end of the model number

[high orchid]

yah thats the one noctua says is compatible with the mobo i want

[inner pelican]

K proccesors enable overclocking

[copper patrol]

so for example, an Intel Core i7 8700 is not unlocked, whereas the Intel Core i7 8700k is unlocked for overclocking

[high orchid]

@copper patrol thanks for that tip!

[copper patrol]

yea

really just make sure you take into consideration about the sound you want, if you even need anything other than a stock cooler, and if you think the cost of an AIO or a custom loop is worth it

oh and also the ram slots

those are important too

[high orchid]

^^

[copper patrol]

oh and one last thing

if youre going to be overclocking, get at least a 2 fan radiator

[high orchid]

want to build something for sims and upcoming MFS

[balmy glacier]

tbh a corsair h100i runs my intel core i7 8700k with little to no sound at a cool breezy 40 degrees celcius

[copper patrol]

huh

[high orchid]

nice

[copper patrol]

free shipping too

not bad

[balmy glacier]

yeah those work great

[copper patrol]

honestly i was hoping for something with rgb lighting though

[high orchid]

what site?

[balmy glacier]

pre applied thermal paste and with the icue software you can keep it on silent mode and if the cpu ever gets too hot automatically ramps up rpms for you

[copper patrol]

id be getting a Ryzen 7 and that comes with an rgb fan which i love

@high orchid thats Corsairs website

[balmy glacier]

the h100i does have rgb

[copper patrol]

really?

[balmy glacier]

yeah gimme a sec

[copper patrol]

even the fans?

[balmy glacier]

yeah

its beautiful

[copper patrol]

wow

ok then

their marketing team needs to get it together

nowhere on this page does it indicate that its rgb

[copper patrol]

dang

[high orchid]

nice rig

[copper patrol]

if i got a AIO i would wanna go with a thermaltake one to match the brand of my case. also their rgb is compatible with a lot more rgb control software

[balmy glacier]

thermaltake definitely makes some good coolers

[thin veldt]

i have it its not that good

[balmy glacier]

which one

[thin veldt]

its good for looks

h100i

[acoustic shard]

Are u saying it's not good for cooling

[balmy glacier]

why not

[thin veldt]

yea

[acoustic shard]

Oh

[high orchid]

[balmy glacier]

mine does a fantastic job even with cpu after burner on 100% load never goes past 80 degrees celcius

[thin veldt]

i have mild overclook and i run at 98 f

[copper patrol]

this one just looks amazing

[balmy glacier]

98 f isnt bad ?

98 celcius is bad

[copper patrol]

in this case

[balmy glacier]

looks perfect

i love the look

[copper patrol]

yeah

[balmy glacier]

and clinton if youre saying 98 f is bad

its not at all

thats about 40 celcius thats good for even idle temp

[copper patrol]

cpu temps are measured in Celsius

usually

[balmy glacier]

usually yes but some americans change ity to f

since thats what theyre used to

[inner pelican]

not usually

[high orchid]

definitely have room for radiator in case

[inner pelican]

ALWAYS

[balmy glacier]

nope you can change it if youd like

[balmy glacier]

just easier if you do celcius since thats more average

[inner pelican]

But Celcius is easier to understand honestly

[balmy glacier]

very true

[copper patrol]

36 celsius for a cpu temp is like really good

like

[high orchid]

0 freeze 100 boil

[copper patrol]

wheres ur pc in antarctica??

jkjk

[rose sonnet]

I have that same cooling system too

[balmy glacier]

here are my numbers for my cooler with cpu overclocking 100% on a i7 9700k with a corsair h100i

[copper patrol]

farenheit is 32 to freeze and idk to boil lmao

im not a true farenheit fanboy sigh