cases-psu-and-cooling

[ruby yacht]

prob 3060 or 3060 ti

[fierce pivot]

You in the us?

If so https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na

[ruby yacht]

thank you kind sir

[elfin trout]

CX-M whiney

[fierce pivot]

Np :)

[next terrace]

does it matter which cpu port I use? There's 2

[fierce pivot]

nope

[next terrace]

ok so now I'm doing the bios flashback on a b550 aorus pro ac and when I hit the bios flashback button there is no light like the tutorial shows

[fierce pivot]

did you rename the usb file to what the manual says?

[next terrace]

yeah it's named as gigabyte.bin

might just leave it plugged in Incase it's doing something for a bit then install everything on it and see if it worked or came with new enough bios

[fierce pivot]

Yeah just leave it for a sec

[wanton briar]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/inwin-explorer/

Neat case from InWin

Sadly overpriced for what it is

The beige color is pretty cool

[fierce pivot]

Yikes that price

[wanton briar]

Yeah, its a really neat looking case with cool color options but it's just way too expensive

[next terrace]

the only thing I need to plug into my psu is the motherboard cable, the cpu cable and the gpu cable right? Just the 3?

[stone anvil]

anyone have an opinion on the MetallicGear NEO Qube

[fierce pivot]

Nice case if you like that style

[fierce pivot]

Sata if you have hdd or ssd drives that aren't m.2

[stone anvil]

I like phanteks looks and the LianLi 011 looks neat too. SOme have had issues with USB'C front ports on lian li 011 though.

I just wish I had a review that could go over the thermals. Or I guess understand where would be the best place to mount an Arctic Liquid II 360 AIO.

[fierce pivot]

On the neo qube, same place you would on the o11d, on the side

[stone anvil]

So there isn't clearance on the top for anything but fans I would assume. I guess with this "style" you are trying to minimize headroom and have just a wider base. Not saving room compared to a P500A necessarily.

[fierce pivot]

Afaik there's not enough room for a 360 but I'd check the website for the neo qube, lemme see

@stone anvil looks like the aio can fit on the top and side

[stone anvil]

This looks like it should fit an ATX PSU but I could have swore the Lian Li's like this needed SFW PSU

[fierce pivot]

The o11d mini or something uses the sfx psu

[stone anvil]

Should I be concerned about temps or noise if I fill or dont fill it with fans.

Like maybe a top mount for the AIO and 3 fans on the bottom to start?

[next terrace]

alright, i just have m.2 so im good with the 3 then right?

[fierce pivot]

Yup

[fierce pivot]

Nah i dont think so, I'd have at least 3 intake at the side and one exhaust at the back or back top though

[fierce pivot]

Btw I'm pretty sure @pliant bridge has a neo qube if you want first hand experience

[next terrace]

ty pato

[stone anvil]

@pliant bridge I guess I would be interested to know if its worth the $30 difference compared t the Lian Li. I want to elevate the PC so having it be short is a priority. I certainly don't want to hamper the cooling performance just for looks either.

[fierce pivot]

Np

[pliant bridge]

If somehow it became noisy u will get used to it.. mine doesn't xD but it doesn't matter if you fill all or nah.. i fill everything on mine

Just make sure exhaust fans are not greater than the intake

[pliant bridge]

Whats neo qube

[fierce pivot]

Your case?

[pliant bridge]

Ah i see the similarities .

[fierce pivot]

You have a different case? Ahh my b

[pliant bridge]

Dont mind it i think all of them are copy of lian li like mine xD

I will call them all the dual chamber cases

[wanton briar]

What case is yours?

Is it the Tecware one?

[fierce pivot]

Fair enough lol

[wanton briar]

Tecware VXR?

[pliant bridge]

https://www.lazada.com.ph/products/coolman-robin-2-tempered-glass-gaming-case-i1912484367-s8127590625.html

[wanton briar]

Ah some random clone

[pliant bridge]

@fierce pivot thats what i use ^

[fierce pivot]

ahh

[pliant bridge]

Yeah 50 bucks clone

[wanton briar]

Cheapest clone I could find was the Tecware VXR

[pliant bridge]

https://youtu.be/_tyq2_h3BrM

To see it in action

[worldly dust]

Hope that glass doesn't touch or if anything starts vibrating its going to be noisy

hopefully there are rubber offsets or something

[pliant bridge]

Saw that too kinda same price but no white version

Kinda rare for clone to offer white ones

Is white paint expensive xD

[worldly dust]

actually yes vs black usually

[pliant bridge]

I wanted white so i can see if i need to clean it . Like it will bother u and force u to clean it

[worldly dust]

it looks cool in white though

[pliant bridge]

True also all yout lights will bounce

Case wont swallow your lights

[worldly dust]

like i said my biggest concern would be the glass on glass interaction

but i havent read any reviews if it happened someone would mention it

[pliant bridge]

It has rubber offset

[worldly dust]

nice

have to get one of those rare white gpu's for it white builds look really cool when you go all out

[pliant bridge]

True but xD i dont think i can upgrade now

Gpu prices go brrr.. even if i swap it to the store it wont make adent

[worldly dust]

very clean looking

[fierce pivot]

damm

[pliant bridge]

Yeah got same mobo in black only xD

[worldly dust]

thats a random pic from the internet not my pc or anything lol mine only looks white from the dust coating it

[pliant bridge]

I want white but reddit and google told me the rgb on the rog logo dont lit up

Just a sticker with illusion

The black one lit up

Wait i think thats a diff mobo when i zoom it.. im talking about strix white b550 f gaming wifi

[worldly dust]

this one actually has a white pcb but I've never heard of the company

[pliant bridge]

X570 is too much for me xD

[worldly dust]

Segotep CVN X570M Gaming

[pliant bridge]

That is a hell price here

I got the b550 on super sale

[worldly dust]

the little jets are weird

[pliant bridge]

But thats a good mobo. I just panic if i broke the little fan

[fierce pivot]

That's blindingly white jeez, who makes that?

[worldly dust]

Segotep

[fierce pivot]

Oh nice

[pliant bridge]

If i broke the little fan what happened?

[worldly dust]

I have no idea who that is though lol

[pliant bridge]

Do people sell that fan

[fierce pivot]

I've never seen a segotep board

[worldly dust]

same

[fierce pivot]

They make a decent 600w c tier? gold psu for like 50$

I've only seen their psus

[worldly dust]

thats not really inspiring confidence in their mobo line lol

[pliant bridge]

The machine will just follow the schematics

Put the brand on it

XD

[worldly dust]

there are just some crazy white mobos out there

this one is ridiculous looking with the waterblock

[pliant bridge]

Those shielding tho

Also anti sag

[worldly dust]

its like Sony Vaio came back to make a mobo

[elfin trout]

It's also just aqua

[pliant bridge]

I wont call it white

[fierce pivot]

https://azerty.nl/product/asus/4438894/rog-maximus-xiii-extreme-glacial-moederbord-eatx?utm_campaign=&utm_content=&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&gclid=Cj0KCQiAhMOMBhDhARIsAPVml-E_jBeyQye9zPvkP3r33m2PI1gxxcLoJP0yQ5ccywjuLTdBde-sFxEaAsCIEALw_wcB look at this 👀

[elfin trout]

Annoying things ensue

Some people say the chipset runs cool enough not to overheat

[worldly dust]

or nothing at all

[elfin trout]

Some say it overheats immediately

[pliant bridge]

That looks like a engine on a car if u open the front

That probably cost alot

[worldly dust]

I like the rog one better than the asrock one something about the asrock just reminds me of a sony vaio laptop mixed with a tide pod

the Asrock one was $620

[pliant bridge]

Yikes

If you overclocking rog you posted seems have the feature for that.. because i see the button below

[worldly dust]

that all white mobo from segotep was only $198

[fierce pivot]

Wannna see a weird mobo

[worldly dust]

yes..

but only if its weirder than this one

[pliant bridge]

That's the cheapest x570 holly xD i just check on my area about segotep

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/n7PgXL/asus-pro-ws-x570-ace-atx-am4-motherboard-pro-ws-x570-ace

Odh dam

[pliant bridge]

But i dont know how well segotep mobo perform i know they make cases not mobo xD

[worldly dust]

I kind of like this one

[pliant bridge]

It makes me wanna eat it

[worldly dust]

its real understated

[pliant bridge]

The color choice lol

[worldly dust]

like an atari or something

the 2nd one not the first the first one is just insane with all those colors and the daughter board rising out of the middle

[elfin trout]

How do you feel about unify?

[pliant bridge]

+100 for putting cmos battery not below the gpu

XD

[fierce pivot]

Like the heatsinks are probably expectable but why wouldn't the include a built in il shield for 380$ 😭

[pliant bridge]

U can buy custom shielding i know its not the point but can be a choice

Byaski do it

[elfin trout]

It would probably still end up under GPU with a long GPU

[wanton briar]

I have this motherboard

It was overpriced when I bought it tbh

I just bought it for the looks

Dual gigabit is pretty neat

U.2 is also neat

[wanton briar]

https://www.techpowerup.com/289013/in-win-announces-diy-series-cases-airforce-atx-and-explorer-mini-itx

This case is looking super cool

$200 and you assemble it yourself

[scenic lance]

ITX case suggestions?

[elfin trout]

TU150 and NR200p, NR200p max is great if you can get one of those, and meshilicious is pretty good.

[scenic lance]

thanks, im not super familiar with ITX cases

[elfin trout]

You're welcome, nr200p max is great because preinstalled decent PSU and aio for a good price

[fierce pivot]

Nr200 or ssupd meshilicous

[dire turret]

Nr200 has served me well

I got the P but I use all vented panels

Not the glass

[fierce pivot]

Then why get p over non p lol

[elfin trout]

Glass looks cool

[sharp lintel]

Is this a good psu?

[mild roost]

i think it sits like

c tier?

iirc

[sharp lintel]

I thought it was A tier

[mild roost]

I forgot

But it's probably a decent unit from what my mind remembers

[sharp lintel]

Ye its A tier

Or maybe thats a similar model

@fierce pivot can you confirm if its A tier?

[fierce pivot]

Yup earhwatts gold pro

[mild roost]

Yep

It is the one

[sharp lintel]

Nice

[viscid patrol]

hmm can someone give me a list of like 4 micro atx cases (dirt cheap, budget, mid tier, high end)

[minor portal]

Fal'Cie#7622 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[viscid patrol]

F

[sand atlas]

... Sigh

[viscid patrol]

big oof lmao

[sand atlas]

Cheap https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vPp323/fractal-design-focus-g-mini-black-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-mini-bk-w
Budget https://pcpartpicker.com/product/T3rG3C/cooler-master-case-nse200kkn1

Mid/Budget https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ghmmP6/musetex-mk7-gn5-matx-mini-tower-case-mk7-gn5
Mid/High https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3ZjJ7P/raijintek-paean-m-microatx-mini-tower-case-0r200068
Not much above that is worth looking at imo

[viscid patrol]

i tried to look at some like "best micro atx cases" blog posts online and they all gave cases that look like they get no airflow lmao

[sand atlas]

Yeah too many "reviewers" only look at, well, looks

[viscid patrol]

anyways, thanks

[fierce pivot]

I'd have to through this into the ring as well for cheap https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LqPQzy/deepcool-matrexx-40-microatx-mid-tower-case-dp-matx-matrexx40

[gray breach]

Looking for PCIe GPU power cables that don't have a splitter but look slick like the extensions do. Anyone know what I mean?

[sand atlas]

Like cablemod extensions?

Or a replacement cable that doesn't have the daisy chain connector?

If you have a Corsair or EVGA power supply I know they sell many varieties of their cables

[gray breach]

Well, I meant in the style of the extensions

cuz they look so clean

but yes, with no daisy chain/splitter on them

[sand atlas]

What PSU?

[gray breach]

CORSAIR RMx Series (2021) RM850x CP-9020200-NA

[fierce pivot]

fyi custom cables are expensive

[gray breach]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16812304067?Description=Corsair Individually Sleeved PSU&cm_re=Corsair_Individually Sleeved PSU-_-12-304-067-_-Product&quicklink=true

these could work

[sand atlas]

Corsair has all the cables you need on their site, you want type 4 gen 4

Yeah that set would work

[gray breach]

cool. thanks!

[worldly dust]

I like that those can go straight to the psu as opposed to extensions

[gray breach]

yes, but mainly no dangley ends

[sand atlas]

Yeah, that's one of the things I like about corsair is the cable options. I got one that's the 12 pin cable for the founders edition gpu and I actually get better benchmark scores as opposed to using the adapter. Shorter cable, no adapter, better voltage regulation I guess.

[gray breach]

yes that makes sense

[fierce pivot]

makes sense, didnt think it would be outside margin of error tho 👀

[sand atlas]

It's repeatable, I got a hundred more points in time spy just changing the power cable

[fierce pivot]

ohhh wow

[worldly dust]

being a computer electrical engineer by trade I believe you and its why I hate the idea of extensions

shortening a wire by 1mm can make big difference in smaller applications

of course if they let me hook up a 1000w psu to the coffee makers I bet I could get away with a lot more lol

[tacit tide]

any specific case i should get? need to mount a 360 rad, and fit a 3070ti in there. along with 2 2.5 inch ssd's and 1 3.5 inch hdd

don't really care a ton about looks

[tacit tide]

?

[tacit tide]

meshify 2 XL or the torrent it seems like

[sand atlas]

Those would work if you want a massive case, but something smaller like p400a digital or 4000d airflow would still fit the 360

[tacit tide]

i can fit a massive case lol

ended up with getting the torrent

[sand atlas]

Not a bad choice. Plenty of airflow and good stock fan configuration.

[sand atlas]

Don't put the aio on the bottom mount, it'll have to be the front. You can move the 180 fans to the bottom.

[tacit tide]

alright

[autumn cargo]

Anyone got a Meshify 2 compact? Got a gtx 1060 6gb making some under load .. at least that’s what I think the buzz sound is coming from. I upgraded from a Zalman z9 😂 so I unno if it was there before.

[mild roost]

It can be coil whine

[autumn cargo]

Thanks ! Man I upgraded the case cuz it looked dated but didn’t expect to hear coil whine now. Mucho sadness

Temps is much better tho

[scenic lance]

Hi, I have a question for you about the power of a PSU.

I have a:
1 - 12900K OC 5.4GHz
1 - 3090 OC 2000MHz
10 - Fans Lian Li AL 120mm
1 - M.2 NVME 2TB
1 - Maximus Z690 Extreme
1 - EKWB Custom Loop CPU + GPU + Distro Plate Reflection D5 XL
2 - Sticks DDR5 16GB 6600MHz CL36 (32GB Total)

How many Watts should had my PSU?
I have to run some tests to see if the system is stable. Maybe the power in this tests will be huge.
Because of that I ask you for some advise.

Thanks in advance,

Bruno Simões

[fierce pivot]

Are you gonna oc the 12900k if so, how much?

[scenic lance]

Maybe 5.2 5.4

[fierce pivot]

5.4 👀

Ln2 ocing?

[scenic lance]

No WC

[fierce pivot]

Considering that thing gets to like 100c on a 5.0 oc on a liquid freezer oi 360 lol ehh idk how much more you can go but

I'd go 1000w/1200w psu

[scenic lance]

Hum... ok that's what I suspect

I have at the moment a Seasonic 850W Titanium I have to sell it...

[fierce pivot]

@scenic lance what country you in?

Yeah because that cpu oc'd can pull 400w and the gpu that or more depending on model

[scenic lance]

anyone know why I am on my third PSU? the fans keep failing on them. I RMAd it twice at this point
They keep rattling

Each RMA seems to lose me money

because the american dollar somehow drops against the canadian dollar in between me paying a colatteral and getting a refund

[fierce pivot]

What model?

[scenic lance]

EVGA BQ 750

[scenic lance]

Portugal

[fierce pivot]

I'd get this https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/wp66Mp/phanteks-revolt-pro-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000gc

[scenic lance]

I will buy the Seasonic PX 1300W

[fierce pivot]

Ehh rma'ing should just send you out a replacement but it is a low end unit

[scenic lance]

they need a collateral to ship it

[fierce pivot]

How much is it btw?

[scenic lance]

290€

[scenic lance]

JEsus christ dude

that is expensive

[fierce pivot]

Ahh, well it's a c tier unit, what specs you running?

[fierce pivot]

Wasn't talking to you with that

[scenic lance]

oh

290€ is expensive?

🙂

[scenic lance]

i7-10700, Gigabyte 2060, 16GB GSkill

[fierce pivot]

If you wanna go over 1000w I'd consider this instead https://pt.pcpartpicker.com/product/f7L7YJ/corsair-hx-platinum-1200w-80-platinum-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020140-na

[fierce pivot]

For a psu yes

[scenic lance]

Hum ok

[scenic lance]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/hb8bt6/be-quiet-dark-power-12-1000-w-80-titanium-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn316

you can get this for that much

[fierce pivot]

Might be worth trying to get a refund and getting a better psu in the first place if the fan noise is annoying you then

[scenic lance]

Ok. I will see the options

[scenic lance]

I dont think they will refund it anymore

[fierce pivot]

No point linking a Portuguese person Canadian parts lol

[scenic lance]

they only RMA

[scenic lance]

just change ca. to pt.

😅

in the url

[fierce pivot]

No point, different markets

[scenic lance]

wait really?

[fierce pivot]

Ofc

[scenic lance]

oh

I thought that maybe they would just use different retailers

I personally use Canada Computers

[fierce pivot]

They do but not everything is available in every region and prices can vary

[scenic lance]

oh

[elfin trout]

200usd part might sell for 500cad in Canada, yaknow.

[scenic lance]

prices are wack altogether

we recently bought a new car for 3k more than a used car would have cost us

3k between a 2 year old car with 50k on it comapred to a brand new car

so new infact, that the shipment reached the day we went to the dealership

[fierce pivot]

It's not a conversion or tax thing, some things are consistent but a lot aren't

[scenic lance]

i know that prices are just different

either way I bought a Hyundai

nothing to do with America

manufactured in Korea

by a Korean Company

[tacit tide]

my psu is going to crap itself (750w 80+ gold) with a 3080 and a 9900k, im stupid with PSU's so what one do i get, im in US. 9900k is not OC'ed. 32gb of DDR4 3200 cl16 ram, and i have a hdd and a couple of SSDS.

[fierce pivot]

What psu do you have atm?

[tacit tide]

uhhh hold on

corsair RMx RM750x should tell enough, right?

[fierce pivot]

Great psu, if you don't overclock that's psu is fine

[tacit tide]

yeah i dont think il be overclocking

i just dont know where my other cables are lol so il have to either buy some or find them

[fierce pivot]

Then no need to change

[tacit tide]

kk

[fierce pivot]

Great thing about having a corsair psu is it's not to hard to find

[tacit tide]

oh it just uses 2 8pins, il probably use 2 separate cables then cause atm my 2070s is running off one cable (8+6 pin)

[fierce pivot]

Ye use 2

[fierce pivot]

What cables do you need to purchase if you cant find them?

[tacit tide]

i just found em but il probs need extentions

[fierce pivot]

You think?

[tacit tide]

im getting the fractal torrent and the PSU is top mounted, cables are around 24 inches long so i might not but idk

[fierce pivot]

Should be fine

[tacit tide]

k

[covert wind]

Do any of these black friday deals get better than the pre black friday deals or just cop now?

[covert wind]

Get this for psu or you recommend anything over it? https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm850x-cp-9020200-na-850w/p/N82E16817139272?Item=N82E16817139272&quicklink=true

I like the price.

[elfin trout]

It's a good price for RMx, but that price only makes it match revo d.f. usual price, which is now 120$
https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-850w/p/1HU-0042-000R0

[covert wind]

With a 12700k and a 3080 and ddr5 how much overhead should I have for overclocking?

Should I consider a 1000w psu if only $40 more?

[elfin trout]

If you wanted to OC, maybe..? But also depends on which specific 1000w psu

iirc 12700k can be pretty power hungry too

[covert wind]

evga supernova

[elfin trout]

which one

[covert wind]

g6

gold

[elfin trout]

They already came out with another eh

I'd just grab this tbh
https://www.newegg.com/super-flower-leadex-gold-sf-1000f14mg-v2-1000w/p/1HU-024C-00042

[covert wind]

Are all the cables im going to need going to come with like the psu and motherboard?

[sand atlas]

Most likely unless you need a bunch of extras for something, like a ton of sata drives

[covert wind]

I already got my storage. 2 SSDs and a 4tb HDD.

[sand atlas]

Are those M.2 SSDs?

[covert wind]

yeah

[sand atlas]

Most boards come with 2 sata data cables so you're good then

[covert wind]

What is like strimmers for?

[sand atlas]

Extensions and lights

[covert wind]

Aight well I got rgb lights already too so not needed at least rn.

Now over to #old-cooling

[sand atlas]

Personally I don't like extensions because they can cause some issues in rare cases

[covert wind]

@sand atlas

Think this will drop anymore on black friday or just cop now?
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jRvdnQ/corsair-rmx-2021-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020201-na

[wanton briar]

Phanteks Revolt Pro 1000W is on sale right now if you need a 1000W PSU

[covert wind]

@wanton briar

[sand atlas]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wp66Mp/phanteks-revolt-pro-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000gc

[covert wind]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DKw7YJ/phanteks-revolt-pro-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p850gc
is this the amp version?

[sand atlas]

Yep I was just looking at that too lol

[covert wind]

Oh that's 850w tho

I need to see the astetic tho too. Part of my consideration for everything is astetic

[sand atlas]

I linked the 1000W

[covert wind]

I don't know how to spell that lol

[wanton briar]

What case are you using that you will be seeing the PSU anyway?

[covert wind]

Lian li dynamic

very open case

[wanton briar]

PSU is hidden though

fully

[sand atlas]

Aesthetic?

[covert wind]

Hm aight yeah see that now. Now it comes down to fan noise mostly.

The phantek is tier a with the corsair so prolly pretty good.

[sand atlas]

The cables are all you'll see and they're sleeved

[wanton briar]

According to the cultists tier list the Revolt Pro has "quiet operation under moderate load"

[covert wind]

I found the tier list but other than the tier itself didn't really know how to dicipher much more going on.

[sand atlas]

There's a spreadsheet that gives more info if you need it beyond the standard tiers

[covert wind]

Yeah I looked at that too.

Didn't really know what was going on.

[sand atlas]

Most people wouldn't regarding things like ripple and such

[covert wind]

Like is there a decible level on this?

[sand atlas]

That'll vary by who's testing it

[elfin trout]

Keep in mind it's really hard to compare decible levels between units because you'll measure a vastly different decible level from measuring on top of the fan vs measuring 1 meter away

[worldly dust]

in my experience if really concerned about decibel level just go bigger than what you need

if its no where near full load it will be quieter

[covert wind]

Forsure. Just trying to make sure my build is fast, quiet, and looks good.

They're probably both pretty quiet tho.

[sand atlas]

I doubt you'll be able to hear the PSU over the case fans

[worldly dust]

my aio pump is the loudest thing in my case

[sand atlas]

My GPU is the loudest in mine, but that's the FE model for you. They actually use Delta fans, not exactly known for low noise.

[worldly dust]

oh well I meant at idle yeah my 3090FE can be heard while gaming lol

[sand atlas]

Oh, at idle there's no noise at all from my PC

[worldly dust]

and as long as one of my 80mm fans isnt failing I swear that is just a cursed size or something even one of my noctuas died (and by died i mean starting making all kinds of noise and I had to replace it)

[sand atlas]

Arctic P12 ftw

[worldly dust]

if another noctua fails Im going to try those

they arent even really necessary as they only cool the hard drives in the basement of the case but I dont like empty fan spots

[fierce pivot]

They v good, v quiet perform almost as good as a12x25's and are like 7$

[craggy eagle]

I need to make room on top of my desk for a second monitor, but the case I have right now doesn't fit where I want it to go
I have an atx build, so I was looking at the q500l for a shorter case unless there were any objections or better suggestions

Thanks for the help

[minor portal]

Große Schwanz Energie#3335 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

Große Schwanz Energie#3335 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[past harbor]

@cobalt blaze What do you have now? Some places said the 3070 pulls around 230W. While gaming, I like to be around 50% usage. Personally I have a Evga 650W Gold. Here's a couple options for you if you so choose
$85 650W https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-RM650x-Certified-Modular-Supply/dp/B079H6111J
$100 750W https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-GP-0750-X1/dp/B0797HL9Z4

[elfin trout]

90$ a-gf 750w
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PDZ5ZLT

[scenic lance]

Need a case for a Dell Dimension E521

[minor portal]

alyssa 🌷#6283 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[scenic lance]

Yes I know, its a turd

I still require a case and cpu fan for it

[minor portal]

UserBenchmark is NOT a reliable source of information and has been blanket banned in many hardware communities such as r/hardware and r/intel for what started as an anti-AMD bias but has spiraled into delusion.

In fact, they tried so hard to skew results in favor of Intel's midrange that they even cannibalized Intel's own high end. For example, according to UserBenchmark, the i3-9350K is rated higher than the i9-10980XE.

For a similarly convenient quick-and-dirty hardware comparison website, we recommend using PassMark instead of UserBenchmark.

PassMark CPU comparison: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
PassMark GPU comparison: https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/singleCompare.php
Want to know more?: https://youtu.be/RQSBj2LKkWg

[violet breach]

So I’m looking for a good case to go with the asus tuf x570 board and rn I’m looking at the Phanteks eclipse p300a

Is that good?

[mild roost]

P400A or P500A imo

[hollow gale]

its a bit small. as @mild roost mentioned the P400 and P500 are much better

[fierce pivot]

Or p360a

If you want p300a size

[hollow gale]

I wouldnt.

[fierce pivot]

Why not?

[hollow gale]

I have expereicne with the 360, and its not a very nice case.

flimsy, no room for expansion

dude has a x570 board, so I assume theyre going to fit serious hardware. 360 is not the case for that

actually, I am a total idiot. I have built in the 300

not the 360

sincerest apologies

[fierce pivot]

Think they're pretty similar tbf, the p300a that is

[hollow gale]

the 360 can at least fit a 240 rad in the roof.

[fierce pivot]

Oh the p300a cant?

[hollow gale]

nope. its TINY

[fierce pivot]

Rip

Guess they not same case then

[hollow gale]

looking at the specs, id take the 360 over the 400 actually. 400 can only have 1 360 rad in front, no space in roof. the P360A can have a 280 in front and 240 in roof

[fierce pivot]

P400a not having top mount support baffles me tbh

[hollow gale]

odd hey?

[past harbor]

Look at a few of us late night folks. Personally I'm thinking p360A or the P400, both great prices. P500A is cool, but around twice the price.
https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3579-phanteks-p300a-case-review-benchmark-vs-p400a
This review has some great points. For the 300a: Front rad support - "ed note:315mm is max possible, not recommended"

[fierce pivot]

Ye p500a is nice but I'd only bother with really high end builds

[odd valley]

Is anyone know if the Corsair RM750x Gold has 8 or 6 PCIe connectors? Newegg.ca says 8, but when I check Corsair sight is says 6.

Or are there difference models with slight variations?

[elfin trout]

I believe it's three cables each with Daisy chained two connectors

[odd valley]

That's exactly what I believe it is.

[elfin trout]

While I believe cables are the same between them, there is a RMx 2015, 2018, and 2021

[odd valley]

I have a RM850i that has 4 cables with 2 (6+2) PCIe connectors.

[elfin trout]

RMx is a different line than RMi but yea

[frosty fulcrum]

Hey guys, I'm looking for a case that I can fit my 3080 in comfortably. My current case is a little too small and my connectors just touch my glass side panel. I was looking for something with a bit more room. Any Suggestions?

[elfin trout]

P500a H500m 5000d airflow Fractal Torrent TD500 mesh

[frosty fulcrum]

Thanks ill take a look now! Appreciate it!

Do you think the corsair 400D would have enough room? Ive never bought a case from them before

[sand atlas]

If you get a vertical mount for the gpu it might solve your problem. Cheaper than a case too.

[frosty fulcrum]

@sand atlas Yeah that is probably what ill do. I forgot that was even an option lol thanks!

[elfin trout]

Was really hoping you didn't choose Corsair lel

[frosty fulcrum]

lmao yeah i probably wont. ive never used their products as they all seemed overpriced. Im sure they are great quality but im not into it lol

[elfin trout]

Problem is, Corsair is just kinda sucky in general, they have a few decent/good products, but everything from good to horrible is overpriced :P

[frosty fulcrum]

Lmao thats what I heard. They look great appearance wise but the price is what always keeps me away.

[hoary epoch]

4000d isnt that bad but theres better cases at better prices honestly

Now i have 5000d and it makes my 3090 look a little small

[sand atlas]

5000D is intended for custom loop or eATX

[hoary epoch]

Yeah and im gonna resort to doing a loop on mine

[rich briar]

Corsair 4000D airflow is 80$ on Amazon right now

Very good price for it tbh

[past harbor]

Similar price to Phanteks P400, so gives options. Funny both have 400 in the names.

[fierce pivot]

possibly done on purpose, same with p500a and 5000d to indicate they are same tier type thing

[rich briar]

Ye

[hoary epoch]

5000d is chonker

[solemn moat]

The 4000D Airflow is definitely a beautiful, functional case, but I’m not very familiar with the mid-high-end case market, so I wouldn’t know about its competition.

[elfin trout]

p400a p500a td500 mesh lancool ii mesh 500dx h500 no-suffix p360a Meshify c

well, p500a is prob too expensive for the ~100$ tier

[past harbor]

Yep, p400 is $75, p500 is exactly twice the price 😅 (well, $60 diff if you compare the p400 digital w/ same 3 fans).
Hmm, can anyone tell me about this 90 degree mobo connector/cable? Looks slick, better than curving that cable around so much.

[fierce pivot]

Looks like it's a cooler master one but any 90° atx extender should do

[past harbor]

Actually found it. $30 for anti-ripple capacitor model but $13 for standard, not bad at all. That mobo port should just go straight forward like the sata ports huh. --4000D also looks pretty good for $80-90

[hoary epoch]

4000D is a decent option but does it fit what you feel is "you"

[light ocean]

Hey are the cables in EVGA g3 750 same as g6 850?

[ruby yacht]

What's the best CPU cooler for the price these days for a I7-11700f

[past harbor]

https://www.perfecttechreviews.com/cpu-coolers/best-cpu-cooler-for-i7-11700k/

scroll down a ways and they have a bunch listed.

[ruby yacht]

Okay thanks

[fierce pivot]

Peerless assassin 120

[fierce pivot]

Also 10700f should be a bit cheaper

[past harbor]

You'd think so. Lately that's not really the case. Although I saw a 9400 or something similar for about $95.

[solemn fox]

I am looking for a replacement cooling fan for this computer.. can someone help me
Acer Predator G3-AG710
Acer Desktop Computer Predator G3 AG3-710-UW11 Intel Core i5 6th Gen 6400 (2.70GHz) 8GB DDR4 1 TB HDD 128 GB SSD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Windows 10 Home 64-Bit

I am a momma... trying not to blow out this child's CPU but the fan is going bad.. Im a little lost finding the right part

[tiny summit]

https://youtu.be/Vex9_84VpYs

[dense tangle]

Is a rosewill Glacier 700w good?

[sand atlas]

Tier E. Not quite explosive but avoid for sure.

[mild roost]

nah

[round pike]

I don't know how much I trust this source

[past harbor]

Same, but it was highly applicable.

[round pike]

I dunno

Applicability for me would involve actually useful information, that list doesn't really have any

The only coolers they list as the "best" that I'd maybe recommend for the 11700k are the fuma 2 and the liquid freezer 280

And with the fuma 2 there are better options

The pros and cons that they list are nonsense

[elfin trout]

all I gotta say

Fuma 2 is fine but it being a "Best Overall CPU Cooler" for such a power hungry chip is a no

[fierce pivot]

Best oc aio lf 280
Best 280mm aio not lf 280

Also u12s yikes

[elfin trout]

lol

ph-tc14pe is literally 10 years old btw, test data isn't the best on it but I'd prob put it at fs140 tier

[fierce pivot]

Fs140 on Intel, cringe smh

X)

[elfin trout]

If the list was "8 coolers you could put on a 11700k", fine, that works ig, but best? nah

[elfin trout]

fs140 doesn't hurt on Intel still :p

[fierce pivot]

List of coolers you could put on
1 intel stock,
2 d15
3 cooler master leaky mcleak aio
4 arctic alpine low profile cooler
5 nh p1
6 liquid freezer 420
7 120mm nzxt screen aio
8 212 evo :>

[fierce pivot]

Yeah but pa120 better on intel :p

[elfin trout]

don't insult d15 or nh-p1 or fs140 >:P

[fierce pivot]

I didn't i just said coolers you could put on 11700k

[elfin trout]

Yes

but just grouping them with stock

am dissapoint

[fierce pivot]

I made more balanced :>

[round pike]

DRP4 con: No low noise adapter

What does that even mean

[elfin trout]

Noctua coolers do come with a Low Noise Adapter

but all those do is like limit rpm to a certain point

[round pike]

They do?

I thought that was just a little extender cable lol

[fierce pivot]

It is, but they call it low noise adapter

[round pike]

Do people actually use it?

Noctua is already pretty good on noise

[elfin trout]

Some probably do, it's a useful lil thing

It means when fans ramp up, they can't ramp up to become loud

[surreal magnet]

dont forget 9 212 evo O_O

more like 212 meme-o

[fierce pivot]

How did i forget, who needs the lf 420 anyway

Fixed

[past harbor]

i didnt write it 😅 I hear ya all though. I now realize a lot of this should've been in the cooling thread, haha.

[hasty heath]

Does anyone know good SFX PSUs (besides the SF750) with like 750W??

[elfin trout]

V SFX Gold

[hasty heath]

Thanks

[dawn matrix]

the bomb has been successfully removed from my pc

now replaced with a 750 amp

[wild wigeon]

Opinion on Meshify C?

[elfin trout]

Can be decent

[dawn matrix]

I think my psu dipped

My pc starts

But There’s a few new random drives

And if I try to open them from file explorer they crash file explorer and almost restart my desktop it looks like or smth

And my motherboard is making continuous beeping noises

Which gigabyte documents as power supply failure

But i don’t know what exactly failed

Nvm maybe it was hard drive

Oh wait I’m dumb

I forgot I didn’t remove my old hdd when it was dying

And I guess I just plugged it back in when I was installing my new psu today

[stone anvil]

What's a reasonably priced RGB fan for a case like the Lian-Li 011 Dynamic. I am looking for 3-6 fans as I will have a 360mm AIO mounted to the top. I'd like decent coverage of RGB as it will be out and on display. Can I get by with only the 360 AIO and 3 fans for a case like this. With it being a liquid cooled PC should I prioritize bottom fans or side fans?

[elfin trout]

Doesn't matter tbh, grab a ek-aio or Galahad, and then maybe p12 rgb or just use more of whatever fan of whatever aio you choose

[fierce pivot]

Or arctic liquid freezer ii rgb

Which uses p12 rgb

[rare tapir]

will this case work https://www.ebay.com/itm/224646367448 with this cooler https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HLPFXWM?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2_dt_b_product_details

[fierce pivot]

[rare tapir]

rip

[fierce pivot]

Use pc part picker for compatibility

I mean the h510 sucks way to much to even justify an aio in

Fine for lower power parts but ye

[rare tapir]

well for a 25$ cooler it not bad deal

[fierce pivot]

It's 125 lol

[rare tapir]

no

25$

got it on ebay local pick up

[fierce pivot]

Do you mean the case?

[fierce pivot]

Omg that guy is trying to sell a used case for more than brand new

[rare tapir]

realy

it show over 100 on amz

may be it with the fans

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/b7hmP6/nzxt-h510-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h510b-b1

73

[rare tapir]

with out 3 fans tho

so 60 not bad i think

[fierce pivot]

No h510 performs worse with more than 2 fans in the back so they're useless

[rare tapir]

ok

what you suggest for some thing use on ebay

[fierce pivot]

What mate

[rare tapir]

as far a case

[stone anvil]

I am using this AIO in top mount configuration. SO this leaves me with 3-6 fan holes to fill. I can use the p12 rgb but I wonder if I need a fan controller for the RGB. I figured I would want some decent RGP fans that would light up the inside of the case. I haven't purchased any rgb in the past so I don't know if some of these prices are justified or not.

[fierce pivot]

Quite possibly but tbh I'm not sure, not an rgb person myself, wether it's worth it, that's up to you

[sand atlas]

A 3 way splitter cable would be fine, a single header can handle that easy.

Even 4 ways would work. A hub is just a more tidy way.

[stone anvil]

If the controller isn't an issue then does anyone have a recommendation on decently lit rgb fans? If I can get 6 to fill up the case then great. If they are overly expensive, I might start with 3 as long as it won't keep my case temps too high.

I will have to check out my MSI MPG B550 GAMING EDGE WIFI Motherboard and see how many headers I can use for these fans.

[fierce pivot]

Arctic p12 (a)rgb

[stone anvil]

Do I need a header for each to use the aRGB or can I use the splitter @sand atlas mentioned

[fierce pivot]

You can use a splitter/hub

[ripe stump]

Would a 360 aio fit in 220t case?

[open quartz]

iirc, yes in the front, however you are very limited to what size gpu you can put into your pc

as well as to what size the rad is

[stone anvil]

I picked up 6 of the Arctic P12 ARGB fans. I should be sitting cool with my Metallic Gear Neo Qube and the Arctic Liquid II 360 AIO. Given that I am mounting the Arctic Liquid II on the top, should I have it in a push exhaust configuration. If so, will having 6 fans as intake be an issue. I want to make sure I am not going to adversely effect my temps because of a fan configuration issue.

[fierce pivot]

Best setup would be aio top as exhaust and rest intake and back exhaust if you're doing back exhaust

[stone anvil]

The MetallicGear Neo Cube is built like the 011 dynamic. Those cases don't have a rear exhaust I don't think.

[unreal totem]

Does anyone have recommendations for a pre-built? Got a friend that is down to spend 2-2.5k but he doesn’t want to do any building of his own; just wants to work out of the box

[fierce pivot]

For gaming?

[unreal totem]

Ya for gaming. He’s never owned a computer and wants to be able to play some current games with friends

[fierce pivot]

https://www.newegg.com/abs-ali597/p/N82E16883360232

[unreal totem]

Thank you very much!

[fierce pivot]

no problem 👍

[past harbor]

What's a couple sub-$100 case suggestions that have vertical GPU support? Thnx. Although for outright performance, not sure I'd want the riser cable setup.

[open quartz]

corsair 4000d airflow however i dont recommend using the built in vertical supports that any case has since your gpu will have little to no room to breathe and would instead recommend getting an actual vertical mount kit so your gpu would be closer to the middle of the case instead of up against the glass

as far as losing performance with a riser cable, unless youre scoring a lot in benchmarks, you wont lose much performance

[past harbor]

Ah, that's why I prefer metal covers. Could easily make a hole just right for the gpu fans. Good to know though. I guess most riser cables are high enough quality for general gaming huh. Yeah, "clear" side panels sure are popular these days.

[open quartz]

also thing to note about the corsair 4000d, i believe they sell the metal side panel not sure but if they do, both the back and front are interchangeable so you can buy a metal side panel if you want to replace the glass one and cut a hole

[past harbor]

Thnx .Seems actual glass (tempered) is super common, but something like plexi would be awesome. It's actually able to be drilled/cut quite simply. Oh, you mean the sides are interchangeable? hmm

[vague herald]

what's the best 50-60$ psu?

[fierce pivot]

It depends on what country

[vague herald]

romania

260-300 lei

is this one ok https://www.pcgarage.ro/surse/aqirys/pulsar-ls-80-plus-550w/?

[fierce pivot]

https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ something a or b tier on this list, c would do if b not available

[vague herald]

@fierce pivot any recommendation with a case for 40-60$ ?

[weary vine]

Usd?

[vague herald]

yeah

[weary vine]

What form factor

[vague herald]

middletower atx

[weary vine]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7fn8TW/cougar-mx330-g-air-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330-g-air

[vague herald]

is Aerocool Menace Saturn FRGB a good case?

[mild roost]

meh

[weary vine]

Bad cooling

[mild roost]

^

[fierce pivot]

Stop asking for suggestions in a currency you're not buying in please it just means you'll get pointless recommendations as they won't apply to you

[acoustic nymph]

Quick question (sorry for my complete lack of knowledge in this area) when I plug in my pc and turn on my surge protector, there seems to be a clicking noise which I believe is coming from the power supply. This is happening when the pc itself is turned off. Is this normal, or is something wrong?

[sand atlas]

Probably normal

[acoustic nymph]

Good to know. Thanks

[blissful thistle]

Suggestions for psu? 9100f, 1060, budget preferably around 60$ but they can go up to 100

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vcZzK8/super-flower-legion-gx-pro-650-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-650p14xe

[blissful thistle]

Thanks pato

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/3F2rxr/corsair-cx-2017-650w-80-bronze-certified-atx-power-supply-cp-9020122-na np or this if they dont mind rebates

[haughty haven]

Anybody know a budget psu for an rtx 2070 super amd ryzen 3600x?

[elfin trout]

@haughty haven what budget is "budget"

[fierce pivot]

Wouldn't buy a 3600x in 2021 but this https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vcZzK8/super-flower-legion-gx-pro-650-w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-650p14xe

[elfin trout]

or go cx

focus GM had a nice deal after rebate too iirc

[fierce pivot]

Cx is decent too ya

[haughty haven]

Idk really cheap I’m broke

Like 40-60

I saw this

[elfin trout]

prob go cx
https://www.newegg.com/corsair-cx-series-cx650-650w/p/N82E16817139200

[haughty haven]

O shoot

I tried to send a link from Best Buy

[elfin trout]

eh, best buy doesn't usually have good deals anyways

[haughty haven]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-00J7-009N6

This

[elfin trout]

amazon links, newegg links, and pcpp links are whitelisted at lvl 0, everything else is possible at lvl 3

nah

don't go br, just grab a cx

[haughty haven]

Fr? How come

[elfin trout]

br kinda bad

[haughty haven]

Ah ight

[elfin trout]

double forward and crappy ripple iirc

[haughty haven]

Thanks homie

[lofty pewter]

BR like really cheap stuff. Not dangerous but not recommended

[fierce pivot]

definitely not at 70$

[marble girder]

Would 600 watts be enough for a 3070 with a 12600k?

[fierce pivot]

Depends on the 600w and if you wanted to overclock

[marble girder]

Yeah that figures

I have that cheap evga bronze one

[fierce pivot]

Lmao no

[marble girder]

Yeah

Ik

Don't have to bulli me

[fierce pivot]

If it was like an A tier psu it would be okay

[marble girder]

Alright well

any 1200 watt psu reccomendations that will last 15+ years?

I'm never upgrading it again

I'm willing to drop a few hundred on one

to never ever upgrade ever again lol

[fierce pivot]

Not bullying lol it's an okay psu but not one you want to be pushing the wattage on

[marble girder]

Yeah it makes sense

I got it for free from hardware swap

just had to pay shippin

someone was parting out a build and couldn't sell it

[fierce pivot]

I mean idk if you'll be able to do that, there's a chance atx 12vo becomes popular in a few years and that new gpu connector Nvidia wants to use but 1200w seems overkill unless you want to have xx90 series of cards

[fierce pivot]

Oh nice grab

[marble girder]

Yeah

most my parts are usually bargain parts

except for a scalped gpu I'm going to end up buying

I've been off and on trying to buy a 30 series gpu for about a year now

newegg shuffles, microcenter and best buy camping, etc.

I'm just convinced that if I can't camp outside of a bestbuy for 72 hours before a friday drop I'm not getting it without paying a scalper

I been working 50 hour weeks and still have university. I don't have time to camp out more than 12 hours unfortunately

denver microcenter also never has gpus. They removed their phone number from the website too so I can't even call to ask

[marble girder]

see 600 watts would have been fine for a 2080. Wattages are only going to go up so I want something I won't have to upgrade soon

[fierce pivot]

Try amd.com as well and evga queue

[marble girder]

been this way for weeks though

[fierce pivot]

Not a 600w br unit, also wattage took a massive leap this gen that hasn't happened before and isn't supposed to happen for next gen also 1000w would be plenty future proof

[marble girder]

well tbf

I was also running an 8600k

I didn't expect intels power usage to stay high for 12th gen

I figured it'd normalize with a new node like normal

[fierce pivot]

Their power is close enough to the 11600k, they just actually fixed the meaning of tdp this gen

@marble girder
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wp66Mp/phanteks-revolt-pro-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000gc I'd just grab this if you wanna future proof it, it's plenty and 1200w ones are like 100$ more

[marble girder]

Yeah I meant

lowered it from the 10th gen nonsense

[lilac sigil]

What other parameters besides watts do you guys look at when looking for good psus

[scenic lance]

I won't go with one that's not at least bronze certified

[lilac sigil]

What’s the difference between bronze and gold certified?

[past harbor]

gold/plat is more efficient , that's mostly it. Gold is my go to preference for price and overall quality.

[lilac sigil]

ok thanks

[past harbor]

usually they're like 90-92% efficient at 20-80% utilization, something like that. Bronze used to be maybe 85-88% efficient. Just throwing out a small sort of example.

[vivid flare]

how does one check the temperature of a power supply?

because i have ran into the issue of my computer randomly shuts off and before this my psu was making loud noises so I would assume a psu temp issue

[past harbor]

perhaps HWinfo program would show. PSU has no moving parts besides the fan, so that's all we should hear if there's quite a load on it.

[vivid flare]

if the only moving part in a power supply is the fan should I take out my powersupply tomorrow and take a look to maybe see the problem?

[mild roost]

no

don't take a psu apart

unless you know what you're doing

it can kill you lol

[vivid flare]

Yea that's fair

Could canned air possibly be the fix?

[hollow gale]

yes, do that.

[hollow gale]

dont do this

[fierce pivot]

11th gen power draw actually beats 10th gen

[marble girder]

Yeah ik, but 10th gen was also high. I figured it was a trend from over squeezing a node

[past harbor]

Definitely not 40-60W (actual) quad core anymore (non-OC), so my GPU uses about 4 times the power of my cpu in-game. Good thing my PSUs are at least 650W, ready for a few upgrades.

[haughty haven]

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Modular-Supply/dp/B00ALK3KEM

Is this a good psu for a 2070 super?

I heard that a 650 watt is the minimum so I was wondering if more than 650 watt would be beneficial or if there's no point

[past harbor]

For max efficiency, 40+% power usage is good. Anandtech had a PC w/ a 5ghz i9-9900K+2070S only pull 300ish watts. Seems low when my 1080 can max at 200W solo (oc'd), but idk. Anyways, I'd say a 650W is still fine for you. Either way, I'd lean towards 80+ Gold at least, something like this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079H6111J

[fierce pivot]

It's an alright power supply but not for that price, I'd get this instead
https://www.newegg.com/evga-700-gd-100-gd-0700-v1-700w/p/N82E16817438159

[fierce pivot]

Actually efficiency is about 50% but doesn't really matter when looking at a power supply, protections etc are way more important

[past harbor]

oh yeah, indeed. perhaps one w/ dual EPS cables is a good idea as well, for future proofing.

[fierce pivot]

Nah 8 pin eps is plenty, you'd need an 10900k/11900k oc'd a lot to exceed the 400w it's rated for

Rmx is better but it's also 30$ more

[past harbor]

Good to hear, just saw a bunch of mobos w/ the 2nd connctor is all

[ripe stump]

what watt psu should i get with a 5900x and 6800xt

[slate creek]

I’m running a 750watt and it’s works well

I’d go for a 850w just to be safe tho

[fierce pivot]

Assuming the us, I'd get this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dnhKHx/corsair-rmx-2018-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020188-na

[tulip granite]

Why are there cases in the shuffle

[torn hound]

I accidentally poked the tempered glass on my case with the tip of a pencil—it was a little hard, but not that much, and I cannot see any signs of damage on the panel. Is there any reason for me to worry still?

[torn hound]

Typical Newegg lol

[fierce pivot]

Are they bundled??

[torn hound]

Nope, strangely

[fierce pivot]

Weird omg why are they so much

[torn hound]

So bad

[elfin trout]

@fierce pivot those look like servers to me

[fierce pivot]

Maybe but i dont see any specs for it lol, then again i can't see stuff from shuffle

[elfin trout]

Nvm looks like a single case, thought it was a server rack lol @fierce pivot

[fierce pivot]

Ahhh

Odd overpriced af case

[elfin trout]

It is all alum and nice looking, not worth 500$ though

I'd say maybe worth 300 if someone liked it

[sweet linden]

is there is a case like this one i found on the nvidia page

[mild roost]

Nah

And that case would be an absolute oven anyway if it existed

[fierce pivot]

You don't want a case like that anyway

[sweet linden]

idk looks soo cool , if they add vents at the front it will be better

[elfin trout]

Anything can look cool with the right camera angle and lighting

[open quartz]

ye, i dont have a screenshot of it anymore but i did that with a block of dirt in minecraft because i had shaders

[elfin trout]

I'd say td500 mesh will prob look better than that IRL in normal lighting

[terse isle]

Hi, I own a PC with a sightly overclocked 2070 super and a R9 3900x. I really want to get some online ups for the PC but cant seem to find any tierlists/guides online. Can someone recommend a UPS that can run my PC and a gaming monitor for 10 minutes at the least. IK this isnot PSU or case related query, but this channel seemed to b the closest to my topic

[orchid ether]

Anything better than fractal torrent if I want best thermals and noise and no rgb and other frills?

[mild roost]

pretty much

but you can do like 5000d airflow too

the 5000d doesn't have anything rgb

[fierce pivot]

P500a would be my choice, comes with 3 fans as well as having bottom mount psu, letting you top mount an aio or something

[orchid ether]

Would a noctua nh d15 cooler be good if I get torrent case with stock fans? Or is an aio much better

[fierce pivot]

D15 just isn't worth it unless you get for good bit cheaper, about equal if not worse(cannot remember off top of head) with a good 240mm aio ~85$ and a 280mm plus will kick it's ass

[elfin trout]

I mean, d15 still good with torrent

[fierce pivot]

Yeah but it's like 100$ ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elfin trout]

It's still fine especially if they already have it

[fierce pivot]

Yeah if they already have them is good

[dull oak]

Hello, I'm thinking of getting the ASRock DeskMini X300W (item no. N82E16856158068) and use an AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with it. Anyone know if the BIOS needs to updated in order to support the CPU? The manufacturer website says it needs BIOS version P1.70. Has anyone tried this build?

[elfin trout]

That's mainly a question of when the product was produced, it comes with the latest bios when it was produced, but there's no easy way to tell when it is produced when you buy it.

Generally there's services to help you flash the board if necessary, like I know microcenter has a program, you might find similar services locally

[ripe stump]

What are some good cases

[fierce pivot]

For what price

[ripe stump]

What an average cost for a se that can fit triple fan gpu and 360 aio I currently have 220t airflow but am afraid it’s to small so looking for bigger one

[fierce pivot]

P400a (digital), 4000d airflow, td500 mesh(sometimes, if priced similarly to p400a/4000d it's decent buy, if not, meh), p500a (digital), 5000d airflow (if on sale)

[ripe stump]

Ok thank you

[fierce pivot]

Np

[scenic lance]

where do i place my pcie cable

[fierce pivot]

Vga

[vital coral]

Is there a way I can post links without getting timed out?

They are amazon/newegg links

Because it pertains to my question

[fierce pivot]

Yeah you should be able to post Newegg and Amazon links even tho you haven't leveled up yet or you can just ask your question and say the names of the things

[vital coral]

Yeah it's all good

Muffin helped me 😉

[orchid ether]

I’m leaning towards 5000d airflow because it seems simple enough. Just need an aio and the right fan setup for a 3700x and 3080ti fe. Any recommendations?

[fierce pivot]

5000d airflow isn't worth it unless on sale imo I'd either go for 4000d airflow or the p500a digital

[past harbor]

The last one is currently $150 & has the 3 payments option on amazon w/ prime, lol. Apparently yesterday it was $140 (email from camelcamelcamel)

[rich briar]

Oooo new itx case from g.skill

https://www.gskill.com/community/1502239313/1623759582/G.SKILL-Announces-Unique-Pentagonal-Z5i-Mini-ITX-PC-Case

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/april-fools-joke-dog-its-fine-this-is-not-gif-16757454

[rich briar]

What's wrong with it?

280mm AIO. Decent ventilation. Full sized GPU

[fierce pivot]

I don't see any decent ventilation

[fierce pivot]

I see 1 airflow panel

But rest solid

[rich briar]

And the bottom

Also you could run it with the wings up if you really want 😏

[faint heron]

Why not put the top

If hot air rides naturally up

Why not use a chimney effect

[rich briar]

The top for sure should have been mesh

[faint heron]

Just have an intake fan bottom, outflow fan top

Boom, chimney effect case

Marketingwank achieved

[rich briar]

Maybe they'll make a mesh top so you don't have to use the tempered glass panel since it comes off anyway

[faint heron]

Hm

Sounds like a 3d printing job

[past harbor]

With fans, it glides up at an angle . Been a while since I saw a case w/ mobo rotated so gpu/cpu exhaust went staight up. Doubt it's really a big change from having at least a few fans in a normal case.

[faint heron]

Yeah but still

Marketing

[signal otter]

Hey guys, I just got an EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra Hybrid recently and while my case is long enough to fit it, it's not wide enough for the tubes coming out of the card. I currently have a Corsair 275R Airflow (had a 1080ti blower card). Which cases would you recommend that should be wide enough to support the card plus the liquid tubes without applying too much pressure when closing the case? I am looking for something <$175

[past harbor]

How skinny is your case? could lookup the corsair 4000d, phanteks p400/p500, or similar. Shouldnt need a full tower or the super wide models that take a sfx psu,

[hollow gale]

you might just look at getting a vertical GPU mounting kit, as I dont think you will find cases with much more horizontal space than your current one

https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/cases/accessories/universal-vertical-gpu-holder-kit-ver2/

[umbral belfry]

Anyone got suggestions for a black case with tinted front and side glass?

Been wanting tinted glass cause I think it looks good with RGB

[elfin trout]

there's a tinted tempered glass meshify C
https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-meshify-c-dark-tg-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352072

[fierce pivot]

4000d airflow black preferably 4000x black works too

[sharp lintel]

What r ur guys thoughts on the phanteks P360A?

[fierce pivot]

Good compact atx case

[covert wind]

How is this $35? Is this psu trash or what?

[elfin trout]

its meh, but you can get a good PSU for 50$
https://www.amazon.com/BitFenix-Formula-Plus-Gold-Netzteil/dp/B077595TW9/

[past harbor]

Extra $15ish is worth more peace of mind.

[past harbor]

@distant anchor gen chat thread is too busy. Here ya go.

[dull steeple]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gqwnkX also anyone know a case that on new egg that fits my build

[fierce pivot]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pC7mVc I'd do this

[past harbor]

I wonder what the shortest in "length" ATX-compatible case is that could easily fit most 3fan GPU's. No rush on ideas.

[fierce pivot]

Probably something like the meshify c

But it can be a squeeze

[past harbor]

Ah, the front/corner w/ Fp wires is why it can't be much shorter. I like it.

[past harbor]

Found a certain pic. Looks like a nice fit indeed.

[fierce pivot]

That's too close for comfort imo

[past harbor]

Vertical mount makes GPU 10-15mm forward of normal position it seems. Definitely snug in the pic. (not having a rad free up quite a bit of room)

[rich briar]

Corsair 570x Mirror Black ;P jk too pricy

[rich briar]

mATX count? Silverstone SG12 Can use a 3 fan GPU and ATX PSU. with an matx mobo.

it leaves literally no room for anything else. 3 fan GPU will block the HDD bay. but it all fits technically

[past harbor]

Good idea. Well I looked that up & the sg13. Also found the TT Core v21 which seems a decent matx pick as well. What was really cool is the CM HAF XB Evo which actually fits nornal atx. Checking which don't fit a full 120hsf.

[reef pawn]

So I have these cables. And I’m looking at a GPU that requires 3 PCIe connectors. Even tho use this is only 2 cables coming from the PSU, will it power the GPU that requires 3 PCIe connectors?

[rich briar]

The sg12b is what I took with Me on my deployment. Survived Iraq 10/10

[past harbor]

Thank you for the input and the guts to serve. Lots of family are prior or current military. 🤘

[past harbor]

Perhaps at idle, not with a deecnt load. Although, all 3 ports need to be full so pc will turn on. I used a single cable w/ 2 connectors on it for my 1080 as a test, but that's a lot different than any GPU that needs 3 cables.

[craggy eagle]

is the cooler master q500L any good for a smaller atx build?

if not any suggestions

[past harbor]

Seems alright. Not sure where the PSU goes, lol. A similar price normal (18" tall) option is https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p400a-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854085

[fierce pivot]

It's meh I'd to phanteks p360a/cougar mx 330 g air(when around 60$)/metallic gear neo air(when around 60$)

[craggy eagle]

It fits up in the top left which ive heard is bad for the cooling. Unfortunately 18" is too tall as im trying to get it to fit in a specific spot thats 15 inches tall

[past harbor]

Oh what about a cube, ThermalTake Core v21 or CM HAF XB Evo? Sorry, wish I could be more help.

[fierce pivot]

For matx thermaltake versa h18 is a good shout too

[rain crown]

does anyone know what size motherboard a Compaq Presario 5726 uses?

i would post pictures, but i am not able to. sadness

or the Dell Dimension 8300

[wanton briar]

The Dell Dimension 8300 uses a Micro-ATX similar sized motherboard

But it has 5 slots instead of 4 on the motherboard so the mounting holes might be different

[rain crown]

thanks

[gloomy aspen]

can someone help and tell me if this is a good case?

https://www.newegg.com/black-cooler-master-masterbox-mb320l-argb-micro-atx-tower/p/N82E16811119381?item=N82E16811119381&source=region&nm_mc=knc-googleadwords-pc&cm_mmc=knc-googleadwords-pc-_-pla-_-cases+(computer+cases+-+atx+form)-_-N82E16811119381&gclid=Cj0KCQiAzfuNBhCGARIsAD1nu-8VtRpFREIo9uezbYRGtffIuOvUwUYf3tU8BGuyinTdXIF6fFHtTT8aAlhGEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[mild roost]

it's an alright case

[brave niche]

Does anyone know of a matx case (or mid tower if need be) that looks more like a work station design than gaming pc? Like, I don't need any tempered glass, but would still like a sleek looking case

[brave niche]

Also no rgb whatsoever

[mild roost]

meshify c

the mini one that is

if you really want it small but still take matx

the non mini is a normal mid tower

[brave niche]

any cubic or cylindrical cases you might be able to suggest?

I'm looking to make a pc for my dad that would be a workhorse, but need to find what everything needs to fit into first

ill keep posting in #building-and-recc-chat to not clog this chat

[past harbor]

SilverStone SG12, SG13, ThermalTake or Lian Li has a few. There's a few w/ various names. This CM fits ATX, any GPU & most tall cpu HSF: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00FFJ0H3Q

[signal otter]

Just bought a phanteks p500a case and my gpu wont line up properly with the back of the case

For some reason the thumbscrew part of the gpu bracket is sitting further away than the part on the opposite side and the gpu is fully seated

[fierce pivot]

It's meh but a way better alternative would be phanteks p360a

[fierce pivot]

You should just be able to push the gpu up a bit until it meets the thumb screw holes

[signal otter]

Finally got it to work. Had to reset the mobo offsets.

[rain crown]

I dont understand the appeal of acrylic or glass on cases.

[fierce pivot]

You can see into the pc and make it look cool

[mild roost]

I like glass side panel

Not front tho, that's rip airflow

[vocal tree]

glass rear panel

[weary vine]

Glass everything panel

[minor portal]

Appysito#1635 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tulip granite]

Which should I do, I’m using it for mining and gaming

[past harbor]

If your case has holes on the bottom, psu fan downward usually

[tulip granite]

thx, should I do hybrid or normal?

i plan to leave my pc on 24/7 when im not gaming for mining

[past harbor]

Your choice, but I use it on my evga (eco mode). Normal might be fan only on but variable rpm, & hybrid mode might be fan off at lower loads for less noise or more fan life. --edit. Sure could, because mining only would be mostly gpu so load would be less than 50% psu at all times.

[tulip granite]

so normal?

[past harbor]

Normal mode if you never want psu fan to be at 0 rpm

[orchid ether]

If one were to splurge with an unlimited budget but not waste a lot of money unnecessarily, what case and water cooling system and fans would one get ?

[fierce pivot]

Aio? P500a digital

[orchid ether]

Custom loop

[fierce pivot]

I'd go fractal torrent or o11d xl probs

[past harbor]

I like that description! People should go by the 2nd part more often. for LL 011D xL or similar. Cooler, idk but something popular w/ a normal 360/420mm rad.

[simple ruin]

What is a good fitting case for the b550?

@fierce pivot ?

[round pike]

Fractal design meshify 2 and the arctic liquid freezer II

If you want fancy and are okay spending a bit more, the torrent is a great case

You'll need to get a little more esoteric with the cooling though, that thing has 180mm intake fans

Fal'cie had this one in the torrent build he spec'd https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cooling/radiators/radiators-active/180200mm/15241/alphacool-nexxxos-xt45-full-copper-180mm-dual-radiator

[round pike]

What form factor and budget?

[simple ruin]

I don’t really have a budget and what is a form factor @round pike

[round pike]

Motherboards all come in certain standard dimensions called their form factor

The three common ones are mITX, which is mostly for super compact builds; ATX, which is "full" sized one; and mATX, which is sort of half way between the two.

There's also eATX, which is kinda sorta standardized and is for ultra high end systems

First picture was bad, this one is good

[slate creek]

Weird seeing an ATX mobo with CPU in the middle without the whole VRM heatsink thing going on

[past harbor]

Like the i/o cover deal now or what? Those maximum mobos sure have tons of sata ports lol

[livid blade]

would an aliexpress or ebay 800w psu be good for use on a secondary pc with a 580 and i5 2400

[past harbor]

How cheap? some 750Wish name brands can be had for $50ish. 2400 is a power sipper at 60W-ish, rx580? Probably 200W max so ...... don't need much.

[livid blade]

400w and it likes to artifact for a second then go black

before it went out of my main which is 650 it never did this

[past harbor]

I would just trust most name brands that are labeled lower than a random Ebay sort of psu that's supposedly more Watts

[livid blade]

yep, just found the ecga bq semi modular

evga not ec

[past harbor]

editing:

[livid blade]

for some reaseon all psus are on an insane disocunt

this might be the one i end up getting

hell i could even get the evga 850w bq and replace the one in my main and put in my secondary

ill sacrifice rating for wattage

[past harbor]

I was looking for cheapest w/ 5 yr warranty instead of 3yr, might be a better choice. circled in pic above.

[livid blade]

yeah, its probably a better idea to save money and get a 500w or 600w 5 year

my project needs an sfx

[past harbor]

ah

[livid blade]

secondary pc is fine with whatever i get but atx doesnt fit in an xbox

[past harbor]

Some of those 3 yr warranty models seem to be a few months newer than their 5 year cousins, and certain psus dont have the quieter FDB fan. Probably still quiet enough though. I sort of like the semi-mod psus now. mobo+cpu power always used.

[livid blade]

looks like ill ifnd an evga 5 year one then

also i found an apevia 500w sfx psu for 34.99

[past harbor]

Can't comment on that. Apevia just sounds slightly familiar from the past, not one I tried.

[livid blade]

well hopefully im not buying a bomb then.

[past harbor]

Could take a minute and google it for a review. I normally do that after purchases, lol

[livid blade]

its just an i3 4170

[past harbor]

power sipper. My cpu at 4ghz barely hits 50W in any game. havent done cinebench or such in a while.

[livid blade]

yeah, im probably gonna mess around and see what my i5 2400 can do

but with no power in games its no good haha

[past harbor]

idk, 2nd gen wasn't bad either. 3rd gen just had better boost system I think. I've got the non-K so basically 4.1max I think. plenty

[livid blade]

mines 4.0

[past harbor]

Yeah they might've been pretty close overall. Non-HT is much lower temp/power too (compared to i7 that was still 4core)

[livid blade]

found an itx lga 1150 mobo so i can go from the i3 to an i5 eventually but its gonna be igpu for a while anyway

and yeah mine runs cold

not cool literally cold

40c

[past harbor]

Fun idea. yep, have had Apex in the background for a while lol: AB/RTSS up top, lower is HWinfo I'm figuring out (blue = cpu, green = gpu). It is hilarious not worrying about temps for idle stuff.

[livid blade]

downloading cinebench rn

gonna see i5 2400 with 580 vs 3700x w 6600xt

[past harbor]

yeah I'd like to see that. edit: i'll redo cinebench myself in a sec.

[livid blade]

not especially good start

[past harbor]

single core/thread takes forever indeed.

[livid blade]

i imagine if i ran single core it wouldnt be as bad of a massacre

but its 4x the thread count on multi core

[past harbor]

Perhaps. Ok, I got 2668. Single core mode to be mainly shows ipc speed. 1c, I actually beat a few newer i7 cpus last time I ran it.

[livid blade]

i did multi core

waiting for the last one to load

restarted my main pc so give me 9 minutes to give that number

2274

i5 2400

[past harbor]

4ghz-ish 4c, 1c test was another day at 3.7ghz maybe.

[livid blade]

running single core now

i would have a hyper 212 on my i5 if it didn't have a proprietary connector

to overcome all of the proprietary connectors on the dell motherboard it's like 50$ in adapters

[past harbor]

The 2400 is at 4.1 currently? well, 15% off isn't that bad considering the IPC changes.

[livid blade]

idk what it's at fr

i don't have any monitoring software for it

i think it clocks to 4.0

3.33 according to task manager

4.03 on my 3700x

12380 for the 3700x

8x the score

[past harbor]

Actually hwinfo says 3.8 max just like apex showed, so I guess I simply upped the 1c turbo 100Mhz and put that on all 4 lol.

[fierce pivot]

Hyper 212 is a poor choice anyway

[past harbor]

my task manager is wonky w/ cpu speed

[livid blade]

it's purely for looks

mine is too i guess

[fierce pivot]

Use hwinfo 64 for that

[past harbor]

If you find a Xigmatek HDT-S1283 or something similar, it's a good one. Funny name, but trust me.

[livid blade]

it would be rad if i got a 2600k and a r9 280

totally 2014 bucks

build

i really wanted to get a titan black and a 7700k

[past harbor]

z87 or 97? could do 3rd gen like me, but 2600k definitely was a winner.

[livid blade]

sorry not titan black, titan xp

[past harbor]

Rightside column is maxes

[livid blade]

my motherboard only does 2nd gen

so an upgrade would be a 2600 non k

4 core 8 thread or 6 core 6 thread i don't know

it's 4 and 8

[past harbor]

idk if the 4T extra help it tons, but should at least be close to mine if not a bit better. 2600 is one of those cpus people had for 3+ years back then because it was so good.

[livid blade]

i just don't want these parts to go to waste

it would be cool to build a pc like that

sell it to a family member

[past harbor]

oops, earlier I meant z77 or previous 1, not 87/97. I have z77. Family member is using my E8400 rig haha. Even that is plenty for netflix or youtube. Great dual core.

[livid blade]

that's overkill for non k haha

mines some be

bs

i don't know the intel naming scheme

it's the lowest one

[past harbor]

Might've been only $120ish back then. Partly for the good mobo heatsinks and various reasons, I liked Gigabyte's P35/P45 stuff & then this one. ok,

[livid blade]

here's the motherboard for the xbox pc

i only got into computers in 2018

started knowing stuff in 2019

became smart about it in 2020 and investing in it

[past harbor]

Think I found it on newegg lol. For 4th gen https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813132041

[livid blade]

117$ 😬

i'll pay 45

[past harbor]

Actually I was wondering what your 2400 is in?

[livid blade]

wdym

[past harbor]

mobo. oh, just hunting for a cpu for that itx mobo

[livid blade]

it's in some dell mobo

i don't know the name

[past harbor]

Your 2600/K statement up there makes me want to see how cheap I could score a 37xx for.

[livid blade]

your mobo would support it

1080 plus 3700k

great combo 100%

[past harbor]

59 results in US under $65, not bad. I need to repaste anyways. Bet those extra 4T would help in Apex a bit at least. Most of my games play even better.

[livid blade]

dude a 3700k would increase performance by a ton

with an oc too man that would be wicked

[past harbor]

Been a while since I read a 4/4 vs 4/8 review. Some of these are the S model and non-K. Forgot to search "3770K"

[livid blade]

probably 100-150$

[past harbor]

3 under $90. We do know the non-K can easily be set at 4100ish and that's a decent 24/7 clock.