cases-psu-and-cooling

[elfin trout]

180mm fans uncommon

[weary vine]

Oh yee some cases use em as front fans

[elfin trout]

lancool 215 coolermaster h500/p/m

[fierce pivot]

I feel like this will mean it will be a case on the louder side for good temps :/

[weary vine]

it does

50db is quite a bit too

since non linear

[fierce pivot]

Rip

Ye

[hollow gale]

200 I know, but when Steve started going on about 180s and 210s and 220s my world imploded

[sour dome]

Lol

[blissful thistle]

No one click it, scam

[sour dome]

Ewww, another scammer

[unreal epoch]

I mean, noise normalized it did really well.

You could replace the 140's with Silentwings or something else quieter.

[fierce pivot]

That is noise normalised for 36 dba

[unreal epoch]

Yes.

But the results you posted were FULL BLAST fans

So

[fierce pivot]

Yes just realized that

[unreal epoch]

It's quite an... un-reasonable look at the acoustics of the case.

Noise Normalized Thermals are the best way to see how good a case will perform.

[fierce pivot]

I don't think seeing how loud it can get is un reasonable tbh

[unreal epoch]

And, TBH, if I wasn't gonna buy the RGB version of the Torrent, I'd buy 3x140mm Silent Wings 3 fans for the bottom intake to reduce noise even further.

[fierce pivot]

Also one of the points of buying the case is it comes with 5 decent fans

[unreal epoch]

Actually... I might not buy the RGB version

[fierce pivot]

And those 180s gonna be hard to replace

[unreal epoch]

I already have RGB Strips and RGB RAM...

I don't need THAT much RGB.

[hollow gale]

yeah. basically by buying replacment fans you are throwing money away

[wanton briar]

It would be nice to see Noctua make 180mm fans

[hollow gale]

how much RGB is enough? MORE

[unreal epoch]

There's tasteful RGB, and then there's excessive RGB

Tasteful is when you have a row of fans on the front with RGB, and maybe some RGB RAM.

Excessive is when literally every component has RGB.

[wanton briar]

Current system I am using has a bunch of RGB but my last build I did had zero RGB

All blackout except Noctua fans

Same with my next build, all blackout except Noctua fans

[unreal epoch]

I don't think I could go all Blackout.

I'm more of a Whiteout kind of guy.

But, White motherboards don't exist anymore.

[wanton briar]

I thought about doing chromax fans and use the red on the fans and use red PSU cables

That is minimal but looks nice without using RGB

Basically something like this

[unreal epoch]

I honestly can't go back to a classic Black Box anymore.

White builds just look too clean.

[fierce pivot]

That's cleann

[unreal epoch]

And, I pray my EVGA G2 doesn't need to be replaced any time soon so that I can keep using my White Cablemod kit.

[worn wraith]

Okay not sure if I should put it here or in #building-and-recc-chat but I would like opinions on two cases. Price isnt an issue. I just want honest opinions. It will be my first pc build but I want to make sure I get a nice dual PC case that'll benefit me in the long run. The two cases I am comparing are:

• Corsair Obsidian Series 1000D (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BQG4TM3/?coliid=I7RSKAXTBO0ZY&colid=3FBV5LE8HMYYS&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it)

• Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0894J31QS/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1)

[unreal epoch]

Because EVGA doesn't seem to make a good PSU anymore that isn't overly flawed or overly expensive.

[wanton briar]

I got a Carbon and a Black cablemod kit for RMx

[unreal epoch]

@worn wraith Why do you need a Dual PC case?

[wanton briar]

I got a RM850x and a RM1000i but I most likely will buy another RM850x for my next build

[unreal epoch]

I swear, if he says Streaming. I'm gonna shoot myself in the foot.

[wanton briar]

lmfao

[worn wraith]

For streaming and gaming and i prefer not to haul around 2 computer towers if i can put it in one. Plus 3D Animation purposes but that can stay on my laptop maybe xD

[unreal epoch]

🤦‍♂️

You don't need dual PC for streaming.

It's 2021

Use NVENC

[wanton briar]

The money you are spending for a whole second computer is stupid, you could be spending it on parts for one computer that would work just as great

[unreal epoch]

Just buy a Fractal Design Torrent, load it up with a 5950X, 32GB of RAM, and an RTX 3090.

GG You can stream basically every game known to man at 1080p60

(The stream being 1080p60)

The only time you would need 2 PC's for streaming is if you are doing an Overclocking stream where you need a 2nd PC to capture the footage of you mucking about in the BIOS

Even in 2018 when NVENC was fairly new, it was still better than using CPU encoding.

[wanton briar]

Also why would you haul around one huge computer when you can haul around one small one...

Do you realize how big those dual system full towers are

[unreal epoch]

And it's definitely better than CPU encoding in 2021

NVENC is just straight up the best way to stream.

No ifs, ands, or buts.

[worn wraith]

I am fully aware how large a dual system can get. I was just doing some research on my own and obviously not anything good since i still cannot decided on a case. However If all I need is one then I am still interested in getting a dual case in case my fiancee decides to join the PC side then.

[unreal epoch]

Don't bother with a dual case for that purpose...

Just build a whole other rig in it's own case.

Trust me, there's no purpose in buying a dual PC case.

If anything, you'd be better off in just building a Threadripper build and getting 2 GPUS and running an Un-Raid setup with 2 Virtual Machines each with Windows 10 and half of the CPU assigned to each VM.

That'd give you 2 Gamers 1 CPU

Which if you are looking for space efficiency, that's the way to go.

You'll just need to ball hard with a LOT of money for that.

Since you'll likely also need a couple of USB Controller cards, and a hella bonkers PSU to deal with 2 GPUs of a high tier.

Sorry to give you a wall of text here. But it's just not effective to buy a case for Dual PC's inside 1 case.

9 times out of 10 the 2nd PC is Mini-ITX, and the case isn't designed to hold a second GPU in the Mini ITX Rig

So, you are stuck with Integrated Graphics on the 2nd rig.

Which is no-bueno.

[wanton briar]

Or you could just build 2 small Mini-ITX systems in cases that support full length GPUs

[unreal epoch]

Yeah.

[wanton briar]

That is the best if you are worried about space and moving systems around

[unreal epoch]

Ye.

Though, my option of 1 Rig, 2 People can also be effective if you can find a case that is small, yet also fits 2 GPUS and a USB Card

Oh, and an Ethernet Card too.

Since the VM's can't share a network adapter.

(I've done extensive research on 2 Gamers 1 CPU options, because I kinda want to do a rig like that for me and my Fiancee)

[worn wraith]

so I have a new set of research to do.. x.x

[unreal epoch]

Or you can just build 2 rigs.

That's signficantly easier.

[worn wraith]

Yeah not understanding as i thought i mightve but isnt the dual pc supposed to eliminate the need for two cases? i mean i dont care if we run off the same case.. but is it just not that efficient?

[unreal epoch]

It's seriously inefficient to build 2 rigs inside 1 case.

Because one of the 2 rigs will be handicapped.

There ARE some 2K+ cases that support 2 full sized ATX setups.

But, they are STUPID large.

Large enough to come with wheels on the bottom.

[worn wraith]

oh ive seen those then.. so in regards to the handicap part, can you elaborate more on that please?

[unreal epoch]

One rig will be a Mini ITX Rig, with no capability to have a Dedicated GPU

Which means it has to use a CPU with an iGPU

And it also comes with the limitations of mITX, which is limited expandability in the future.

https://www.newegg.com/black-thermaltake-core-w200-xl-atx-dual-system-super-tower/p/N82E16811133308?Description=dual motherboard case&cm_re=dual_motherboard case-_-11-133-308-_-Product

Here's a case that can fit two ATX motherboards and PSUs

It's quite stupid.

Just buy 2 separate mATX rigs

If you are so concerned with space savings.

[worn wraith]

not really concerned with saving space, just more of if i dont have to move two computer i prefer not to. So if a dual system case is pretty much pointless, is there one you would reccommend?

[unreal epoch]

Moving 2 smaller computers is way easier than moving 1 bigass bulky one.

Trust me, I used to have a BIG case. Like, FULL ATX. Not the lame-o ATX Mid-Towers that are so prevalent today. It was HARD to move when I went to college.

2 mATX (Micro ATX) towers would be significantly easier.

And If money is no object, I'd get Sliger Cerberus cases.

https://www.sliger.com/products/cases/cerberus/

They even can be equipped with a Handle

For easy carrying.

Is it a bit pricey? Yeah, the Cerberus is kinda expensive.

Is it worth every penny? Oh heck yeah.

[worn wraith]

thats not bad at all 😄

Alright off to do more research! Thank you so much for your input today ^^ Most likely ill be back making sure i got the right equipment xD

[minor portal]

JRico X#5091 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

JRico X#5091 has been kicked

Reason: Too many infractions

[sour dome]

Bots, man...

[fierce pivot]

Bitfenix nova mesh se for €50,
Thermaltake versa h15 for €52,
Fractal Focus G for €40,
opinions on which one you would choose, for a friend, am debating if the nova is worth 10 more and i really doubt the h15 is worth 12 more but what do yall think?

[sand atlas]

Them being more or less the same quality, I'd go for the one that includes the most fans, unless you don't need fans because you hoard them like me.

[unreal epoch]

None of them. Go caseless and just use cardboard box

🧠

[sand atlas]

Fair. Or get some scrap metal and make your own.

[unreal epoch]

If you do go caseless, buy a 2 pin Power Button.

So you don't need a screwdriver every time you want to start the PC.

[sour dome]

Good call

[fierce pivot]

They not very tech savvy and want a case lmao

[fierce pivot]

Ye focus g has 2 and others have 1 iirc but they want this

Cuz colour

Granted it's a budget build but i can't tell if mesh or glass

[sand atlas]

Looks like another meshify c clone

[fierce pivot]

yet to find a link, i mean if the thermals / build quality is okay then

[woeful lily]

Does anyone know the manufacturer and model number of the attached case?

Does anyone know the manufacturer and the model number of this case?

[elfin trout]

Looks like an nzxt case

[woeful lily]

Thanks I'll look it up

[elfin trout]

Tho

Lemme also look for you

[woeful lily]

Thanks

[elfin trout]

@woeful lily also looks a bit like a fractal design define 7

Color scheme is different but the intake on the front looks pretty similar

[woeful lily]

Checked by nzxt and fractal can't seem to find it but I'll continue to look. Thanks for your input.

[wanton briar]

Thats a thermaltake case

F31 supressor or something

Basically they made a knockoff of the Define R5

[elfin trout]

That's why the intake looked like define 7

[wanton briar]

https://www.thermaltake.com/suppressor-f31-power-cover-edition.html

Pretty sure the case was overpriced and not as high quality as a Define R5

Define R5 was on sale for $110 on amazon but I missed it, wish I picked one up for my server

[sand atlas]

You mean this link?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/GOLDEN-Magician-Airflow-Pre-installed-Tempered/dp/B08HYR9DGG?ref_=d6k_applink_bb_marketplace

[fierce pivot]

I did find it yes thanks lol

But yeah seems to be mesh

[unreal epoch]

It's Mesh.

I'm surprised that comes with fans...

[fierce pivot]

Me too tbh

[unreal epoch]

Kinda sad that it isn't offered in the US...

[fierce pivot]

Well you guys have mx 330 g air and metallic gear neo air

I found a 330 g but not a 330g air

[mild roost]

I think that orange case is something be quiet

base something

nvm it's not it

[woeful lily]

Thanks Cody

[haughty field]

How many watts will I need for a GTX 1080, 200w CPU cooler, and a I7 10700f

[unreal epoch]

The cooler doesn't pull 200w... It is simply capable of disappating ~200w of Heat Energy.

Anyways.

I'd probably get an 850W PSU just to be on the safe side. a 750w would probably do though.

[blissful thistle]

Nvidia says a minimum of 500w

A 650w would be fine

[unreal epoch]

That's only for the GPU

[blissful thistle]

It has a 225w max power draw

The nominal total board power of the GTX 1080 is 180W, with a hard limit of about 225 W due to the single 8-pin PCIe aux power connector. On most non-SLI configurations, 500W is okay.

[unreal epoch]

Really? a 1080 only pulls 225w?

[blissful thistle]

Ye

[unreal epoch]

Eh, I'd get a 750w just to be safe.

It'd at least run cooler.

[blissful thistle]

I mean I run a 750 with my pc

So it can't hurt

But on terms of needing anything 550+ is fine

[haughty field]

i use an 850w psu with my rig and its still overkill, thinking a 700w psu for that should be fine

[blissful thistle]

1080 uses 225w max

[sand atlas]

Yeah a 550W would do better than you think, 650W for future proofing. The newer generation uses a lot more power than 10 series and earlier.

[chrome iris]

Honestly 650w is fine

[peak briar]

Anyone know the brand of fans that come in the Phanteks P360A?

[wanton briar]

Phanteks

[unreal epoch]

Phanteks fans. I don't think you can easily buy more though.

[peak briar]

I mean.. I just need a third for a rear exhaust fan..

[unreal epoch]

No you really don't...

It honestly doesn't help at all.

I have a P400A which is nearly identical in thermals.

[wanton briar]

Those Phanteks RGB ones are easily available

[unreal epoch]

And according to Gamer's Nexus, it actually makes the thermals WORSE to add an exhaust fan.

[sleek escarp]

Wich PSU would be good for a build with a ryzen 7 3700x and a rtx 3080

[blissful thistle]

Idk on exact model but 750w or higher is a good start, 850w couldn't hurt

[sand atlas]

850W for any 3080 that you plan to overclock. Dem power spikes... No joke

[fierce pivot]

If you aint ocing it it's almost a waste since you can get a good bit more perf for very little work

[sand atlas]

Yeah, up to 10% more performance if you get a good bin, just left lying on the table

[sand atlas]

ENERMAX Revolution D.F. 850W https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-850w/p/1HU-0042-000R0

[fierce pivot]

They double posted btw already sorted fal

[sand atlas]

Oh I missed that

[fierce pivot]

It's fine lol build chat gets a bit spammed lol

[blissful thistle]

The gpu and cpu will only use 400w not counting ocing, 750 would be fine

Can't hurt to do 850 for future upgrades

But either way it'll run fine

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/good-one-jim-carrey-smile-sarcasm-laugh-gif-4958042

3000 series has large power spikes

[blissful thistle]

Sorry, what i saw was showing minimum power usage. 121w on an oced 3700x

320w on a regular 3080

Still 441

[fierce pivot]

320w not peaking thoo

[blissful thistle]

Not counting ocing

But it's still 310w extra left for spikes and rest of the system

[fierce pivot]

The spikes aren't related to ocing tho

[blissful thistle]

Ik

[fierce pivot]

Easily peak to 380-400w

[blissful thistle]

Still over 200w left for the rest of the system and ocing the gpu

121w is an oced 3700x max

[fierce pivot]

120w-150w ish for rest of system, assuming a 90w 3700x that's 610w

400+120(system)+90 cpu

[slate creek]

Will a 750watt psu be enough for a 6800xt and 5900x?

Im also wondering if a 5900x would be worth it over a 5800x for gaming

500 for the 5900x vs 380 for the 5800x

[fierce pivot]

Just gaming, 5800x

Yeah 750w should be g

The rx 6000 don't have nearly close to the power spikes rtx 3000 does

[slate creek]

Im thinking of bringing this rig to college instead of my 3090 one so that’s why I’m debating the 5900x

[fierce pivot]

Ohh well if you're gonna do multi threaded tasks etc then go 5900x if you'll utilise the 12 cores

[sand atlas]

The way the transient loads work you can trigger protections even when you're supposed to be under the maximum load. The 3080 is known to spike upwards of 500W.

[blissful thistle]

Really that high?

I was thinking 425 max

[slate creek]

Isn’t that the 3090?

[sand atlas]

3080 can too

It is known to trip protections on 750W

3090 can trip 850W lol

[hearty ruin]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811112583

Is this a good case?

[fierce pivot]

That's subjective, imo no, mediocre at best

Pricey, no stock fans etc

[wanton briar]

Overrated

There's better cases that come with RGB fans for way less money, as said above it is subjective

P400a, P500a, Lian Li Lancool II Mesh

[dry haven]

I'm looking at PSU the Super Flower Leadex Titanium 1600W 80+. Does anyone understand what the disclaimer means?: This item requires a specially designated medical grade power cord, therefore, please refer to the following term :

1. Please purchase the PSU from Super Flower official seller store (Medical grade power cord included).
2. Do not use this item purchased from other countries.

Does it not come with cables?

[wanton briar]

It does

Why do you need a 1600W PSU in the first place?

Just buy it from Newegg

[dry haven]

ya i'm just confused why it says that in the discription

@wanton briar I was planning on building a server with a AMD EPYC Rome 64 Cores 7702P CPU and 2 or 3 graphics card

I don't know how much power I would need

[wanton briar]

Why do you need a 7702P?

[dry haven]

I probly don't need that

[wanton briar]

Then you should not buy one as they are around $4000

[dry haven]

so if I have a system with 2 graphics cards that each have a recommened wattage of 750 what size psu do I need?

[wanton briar]

What GPUs are they?

[dry haven]

Rx 6800 xt

system requirements say recommened power supply to be 850W does that mean I need dubble that for 2?

[wanton briar]

No

6800 XT max wattage consumption is 300W

[dry haven]

ya your right I was completely wrong thanks.

I found a power supply estimator

[odd rapids]

Limit how much faith you should have in that thing lol

[sand atlas]

Yeah they're ok for rough guesses but add about 50-100W to what it says lol

And ignore it completely if you have a 3080/3090

[unreal epoch]

For (most) people you can safely buy a 650w PSU and be fine unless you have a 3080 or 3090

If you have either of those, you are looking at the very least a 750w if you have a Non-Threadripper build.

[unreal epoch]

Why would you need TWO RX 6800XT's in a single rig?

[minor portal]

Hei#8914 has been warned

Reason: Duplicated text

[lofty pewter]

sigh

[fierce pivot]

Rip

I saw some of message in the discord notif

[lofty pewter]

lets try again... 3080fe and lower has same transients as 6800xt/6900xt more or less. Showing pics in a sec

[fierce pivot]

I see

[fierce pivot]

But the aib models are higher right?

[lofty pewter]

Depends, I'd take a very good guess that most models are in that range as most models follow AMD/Nvidia power spec. You still got a couple 3p cards that go over of course, but idk much about them.

I'd assume transients are like 110w - 140w over the power limit like what seems to usually be the case

3090fe is a bit weirder tho. I checked transients from 1080Ti, 2080Ti, 3080FE, 6800xt, 6900xt; and they all were like that range where as 3090fe was 180w over PL

[fierce pivot]

Ahh fair enough

Ty for the nice info

[lofty pewter]

ye welc

[scenic lance]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-tx-m-series-tx550m-550w/p/N82E16817139210 is this a good power supply?

[fierce pivot]

Yes but it's not very well priced

[chrome iris]

^

[tender python]

Is this psu decent enough?

[mild roost]

uhm

no

[vast copper]

Hey guys, I have a USB-C port and connector in my case, but not a header on my motherboard. Does anyone know of an extension card, either 1x or 4x that I can put into my motherboard to connect and use the USB-C port?

[wanton briar]

You could buy one of these

Only would work if you have two USB 3.0 headers

[vast copper]

I dont have an open USB 3.0 header

sadly

I have a B550-A Gaming from ASUS

[wanton briar]

Then you don't really have any other option unless you buy a USB 3.0 header splitter then you are just wasting money and its messy

[vast copper]

Hm

[wanton briar]

or a USB 2.0 to USB 3.0 then using the USB 3.0 to Type C and not only is that messy, its slow and a waste of money

[limpid whale]

I’m surprised there’s no PCIe card for that.

[wanton briar]

There are

But its also messy

Expensive and just a waste of money really

[limpid whale]

Wait but there is

I mean if they want to use the USB C port then why not?

[wanton briar]

It's $30

[vast copper]

$30 isnt expensive tbh

I've already spent >$3000 on this pc

[limpid whale]

It’s really not.

[wanton briar]

It's stupid to spend that on a single front USB C header

[limpid whale]

Cablecc USB 3.1 Front Panel Socket & USB 2.0 to PCI-E Express Card Adapter for Motherboard https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZPZH6N5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_VYHKNV87ASMKD67TBN5R

[limpid whale]

Sure maybe for some people, but I’d personally pay to get everything working.

Though I’d get a motherboard that supports it in the first place.

[wanton briar]

Exactly, if you are looking for that, you are far better spending that money on a motherboard that already has it

[limpid whale]

That’s definitely a good point.

[limpid whale]

Why don’t you just get another motherboard that supports it unless you can’t return the one you’re using now.

I’m assuming this is a new motherboard.

[vast copper]

I dont really have money for a new mobo right now, I can spare $30 but not really $150 or $200 for an X570 board

[wanton briar]

You don't need a X570 board

[vast copper]

I got my motherboard back in Febuary so this is a little out of the return window

[limpid whale]

Ah fair enough.

[vast copper]

Yeah but if I go for a new motherboard I was going to get an X570

[wanton briar]

What CPU do you have?

[vast copper]

5800x

[limpid whale]

Wtf has AMD really gotten that far??

[wanton briar]

There are boards cheaper than the B550-A Gaming that has a USB Type C header

[vast copper]

Yeah I wanted it to fit the whte theme of my build though

There werent many that were the same quality and color

• I wanted ASUS because of their history with motherboards

[mild roost]

kek

[vast copper]

as its my first build, paid for on my minimum wage budget, Id take reliability over a specific model with great performance

[mild roost]

uhm

It doesn't matter tbh

A good product will be good, where it comes from doesn't matter

Sticking to just brand alone means you're missing out a lot ngl

[vast copper]

and yet it was my first build, information on great motherboards isnt really easily processable without experience before this

[wanton briar]

That's why this Discord exists

[vast copper]

id just watched a bunch of videos to understand everything when I was learning

Yeah, some servers helped me learn a lot

I asked friends and they pointed me towards this board anyways

[vast copper]

Ill order this and check it out. Thanks for your help.

If it doesnt work Ill just get a refund

[limpid whale]

No problem.

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Reason: Too many infractions

[sour dome]

Bye bot

[mystic bough]

My build is finally coming together, just waiting on my MB to arrive and to pick out a PSU.

The PSU is the area where I could use some help. The last PC I built was long before modular PSUs were popular and I am wanting to find one that will be compatible with my build. Does anyone have any recommendations? Here are my specs

Motherboard: x570 ROG Crosshair VIII Extreme
CPU: 5950x
GPU 1: Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme 3080ti (requires 3 8-pin)
GPU 2: Asus Dual OC 3070 (requires 2 8-pin)
128gb ram
I plan to run 2 sata drives, 3 m.2

I am not finding many that have enough PCI-E power ports

[odd rapids]

What’s your budget for a PSU?

You could go with a 850w AGF or GF1PE, Revo DF but there are a couple 1000w’s that a priced decently

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/8z7p99/super-flower-leadex-iii-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-sf-850f14hg something like this for 850w or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxZzK8/msi-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a850gf

For 1000w: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wp66Mp/phanteks-revolt-pro-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000gc

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jRvdnQ/corsair-rmx-2021-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020201-na

[mystic bough]

No budget, just wanting to make sure I buy something that will work out well. My big concern is the number of ports I will need to power vs the number of molex connections on the PSU (unless that is no concern)

[odd rapids]

Ahh I see

Oh, also this: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VDqBD3/seasonic-focus-gx-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-1000

The revolt pro is a good buy right now, I’d go with that

If it’s a bit too much, the A850GF is a good buy or the Leadex III 850w

[mystic bough]

thank you so much, I will check these out!

[odd rapids]

Np 👍

[mystic bough]

On the seasonic you posted, I see there are 5 8-pin cpu/pci-e ports.

my GPUs will need 5 8pin connections, and the motherboard has 2 more 8pin connections at the top. Does this mean I would have to find a PSU that offers 7 cpu/pci-e ports? or could I split them?

[odd rapids]

You will need a PSU that has 5 PCIe ports for GPU and 2 for the CPU

[mystic bough]

thank you, yeah that's what is becoming tricky trying to locate

[odd rapids]

You have 5 CPU/PCIe ports on it

So

[lofty pewter]

@mystic bough @odd rapids There are two decently powered GPUs here, not one. 3080Ti 5ms transients are about 500w and 3070 5ms transients are about 350w. Plus the 5950x which is about 150w average max load (no data on transients) and then the rest of the system which is probs near 90w. Totals out to 1090w, which would be 1000w PSU area (good PSUs can do 10% overload just fine). So basically, dont go 850w

[odd rapids]

Fair

Oh two GPU’s?

Wait hold on… I must have skipped that part

That’s why they said 5x8-pin connectors 😂😂

I thought I was losing my marbles

[mystic bough]

The only reason for the 2nd gpu is to display a 5th monitor, unfortunately the 3080ti can only run 4 displays (even though there are 8 ports on the card). The MB does have 2 Thunderbolt 4 ports (and 2 DP in ports so the TB4 can run monitors)... but I was told since it would be coming from the 3080ti I would still be limited to 4 monitors unless I add a second GPU

[lofty pewter]

unfortunately the 3080ti can only run 4 displays
That doesnt seem correct. There wouldnt be a reason to add so many video ports if you couldnt use them

I cant test as I can only hook up four displays tho

[mystic bough]

nVidia spec says the 3000 series can only support 4 monitors

it sucks because 3 of them are only going to be 1080

If I went with intel I could have ran a 5th one via the internal graphics, however I went for AMD so now I am in this pickle

[blissful thistle]

Can if really only support 4?

I figured it'd be much more than that

Which 4 is more than enough for most people

Just surprising

[lofty pewter]

I have found a 5th "monitor" (mini tv)

testing now

[mystic bough]

Awesome, thank you!

[lofty pewter]

Hm, minor difficulties now. Have three DP and two HDMI on my card but all the extra monitors Im trying to hook up are basically HDMI/DVI/VGA. Going to be interesting seeing if I can find adapters

Welp, talk about losing in a sad way. Have no DP to HDMI converters, only have one monitor that accepts DP, so now I cant fill the two video ports to test this out.

[mystic bough]

thank you so much for taking the time though!

maybe part of my solution would be to sell the 3070 and buy an ultrawide with it - running 2 gpus seems like more pain than it is worth

[lofty pewter]

Even if you need a second GPU, getting a used 710 is probs better then keeping the 3070

[sharp remnant]

This is the side panel I painted. I finished the bulk of it yesterday.

I only have the eyes and some detailing to go.

is this better suited for build pics?

[sand atlas]

Hand painted? Not bad at all

[sharp remnant]

Yeah, brushed. Thank you.

[sand atlas]

Either channel, or both

[sharp remnant]

Funny because I actually tried to spray-paint it, but the color I made was too dark.

The four colors I used were Titanium White, Sap Green, and two blues: Cerulean and Ultramarine.

[sand atlas]

Considering the extent of my skill is spray paint and stencils, you've done very well

[sharp remnant]

thank you, i'm happy with progress

I'm honestly much more adjusted to canvases. This was a big risk, but it is paying off.

It's the reason I didn't bother with internal RGB lighting.

[sand atlas]

Yeah painting metal is very different from canvas. Branching out once in a while can be fun, though.

[sharp remnant]

And if I'm being honest, the heat from the PC will help the oil paint dry off faster.

I'm using that to my advantage.

[sharp remnant]

Okay, now I'm finished with it.

[scenic lance]

Micro ATX ~$100 any recommendations?

[blissful sequoia]

Does anyone know what type of cable I would need in order to utilize the bottom two USB ports on my O11 XL? I have the Asus Dark hero motherboard and am already using the only USB3.0 Port

I heard there are some converters you could connect the 3.0 from one place and then another port that goes into the mobo

[wanton briar]

https://www.amazon.com/MZHOU-Computer-Mainboard-Adapter-Expansion/dp/B08N4LQJJN/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=USB+3.0+to+type+c+header&qid=1629812510&sr=8-3

Like this?

Do you have a USB type C front panel?

Dark Hero has a Type C header, what exactly do you need?

[blissful sequoia]

@wanton briar I mean, the O11 XL has 5 ports in the front. In the top there are 2x USB 2.0 I believe and 1x is USB C.

[wanton briar]

What type ports do you need to plug in?

[blissful sequoia]

The bottom ones

[wanton briar]

What are they

USB 3.0 or USB 2.0?

[blissful sequoia]

3.0

[wanton briar]

So you are using your only 3.0 header already then?

[blissful sequoia]

Correct

[wanton briar]

You are able to use a splitter like this

[blissful sequoia]

@wanton briar looks good, thanks

[unreal epoch]

That will likely not give you USB 3.0 speeds on all ports though.

If you need 3.0 speeds on all ports, you will likely need some form of expansion card.

[scenic lance]

does anyone know some good inverted ITX cases?

my desk only has space on the left side

and there isnt much room for an atx build

[mystic bough]

I am looking at the be quiet! Dark Power 12 1000W PSU. How many 8pin pcie connections can it actually power? I see it has 4 12pin ports on it, does that mean it is limited to powering only 4 8pin connections? Or does it actually power 6 8pin connections?

[odd rapids]

Great PSU choice, lemme check for ya

Honestly, the layout is confusing me lol

[mystic bough]

I have seen people mention they run multiple gpus on this, so I have no idea

I like how quiet this psu is, but I agree the layout is confusing. I wish they went with 8pin connections so it's easier to understand

[odd rapids]

Yeah, I’m not sure how to determine that

I’m gonna let someone else help ya with that lol

[mystic bough]

hey thank you

[sand atlas]

It has 4 pcie cables with a total of 8 connectors. Depending on what GPUs you're using and at what power limit, you might be able to use all 8 or you might be limited to the 4.

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[fervent kindle]

I am wondering if the product dimensions of these two products are correct:
https://www.newegg.ca/chenbro-rm41300-f1-black/p/N82E16811123177
https://www.newegg.ca/chenbro-rm42300-f/p/N82E16811123153

I think some dimensions might be swapped, but I'm not entirely sure

[weary vine]

Check on the manufacturers website

[rich briar]

@fierce pivot https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/pbw3cm/gigabyte_power_supplies_can_be_handy_for_something/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[fierce pivot]

Lol

[rich briar]

Ye

[rancid grotto]

Should’ve got the torrent when I had the chance 👿

[knotty blade]

what are some of the best cases? out of curiosity

[vocal tree]

corsair 5000d or something

airflow

[knotty blade]

I was looking at it yeah, its pretty nice

[wanton briar]

P400a, p500a, 4000D 5000D 7000D Airflow

[knotty blade]

not a fan of the white version though for 5000d AF

[wanton briar]

Lian Li Lancool 2 Mesh

There really are no "best cases"

There's many very good cases though

[knotty blade]

which is why I asked for some of the "best" lol, but yeah. I'm just bored throwing together a random ass USD based build on PCPP.

[vocal tree]

best case scenario

my favorite case is the TT Versa H18 TG

not a best case but it's got some decent features

[knotty blade]

reminds me of the Deepcool Matrexx 55 Mesh

kind of

[vocal tree]

I'll bet it's a clone of the thermaltake

in appearance at least

atx version is Core G21

among others that share the design characteristics

[gaunt cradle]

So I was able to get a RTX 3080 Ti, now I need a more powerful PSU, any suggestions on ones that are efficient, and affordable?

[fierce pivot]

Are you in the us ?

If so, this should do https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxZzK8/msi-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a850gf

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wp66Mp/phanteks-revolt-pro-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000gc something like this would be ideal though

[gaunt cradle]

It’s just picking Powersupplies can be so confusing, since the one I thought I got at first would be pretty good, but apparently it’s not, since I thought the main things that matter are the standard and wattage.

Certification* not standard

[elfin trout]

you can just go by this for the simple explanation
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[gaunt cradle]

Yeah I tried using it but I don’t know if the links work, or I have to find the model number.

[elfin trout]

?

you just control-f to find PSUs

they don't link PSUs within the sheet

A-gf, Revolution D.F., and Revolt pro are all Tier A for example

[vocal tree]

kink

is there a spreadsheet or osmething of the prices of all the units on the tier list?

[elfin trout]

begone, one who misinterprets my words >:p

nah

[vocal tree]

:)

[elfin trout]

api too annoying afaik

[vocal tree]

msrp at least

[elfin trout]

I made a pcpp list a while back

but too lazy to re-make it

[vocal tree]

it's just tedious to go through all the units in a tier to find the cheapest one, ofc at any given time the price fluctuates

[elfin trout]

I mean, it's usually just a few that almost always stands out

phanteks amp, a-gf, revo d.f., focus gx, RMx, for example, check 5 and you're most of the way there

[odd rapids]

There is a spreadsheet for the LTT tier list, yep

Made by the same person who made the tier list on LTT

[elfin trout]

not w prices tho

[odd rapids]

Some do, very inaccurate though

[vocal tree]

just list the release msrp that's enough for me

[elfin trout]

not in unit index, and unit links only pcpp links..?

[fierce pivot]

It's called pcpartpicker.com

[vocal tree]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-licking-chimp-licking-monkey-camera-licking-camera-monkey-licking-camera-gif-20234087

[fierce pivot]

Usually the cheapest is msi agf or phanteks amp or enernax revolution d.f. for a tier anyway

[odd rapids]

I’d just use PCPP to do so but https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eL0893Ramlwk6E3s3uSvH1_juom7SMG5SCNzP2Uov8w/htmlview#gid=1719706335

If you go to #24, “PSUGuru’s PSU Database” then it’ll show average price for Corsair PSU’s, EVGA and whatever else

But PCPP is a good way to look for current pricing

[vocal tree]

yeah

I pretty much always use pcpp for pricing

with used on ebay as the exception

[blissful thistle]

Making builds with older parts it doesn't work

It valued an 8700k at like 350 I think the other day

[wanton briar]

You can use custom pricing though

and custom parts too

[vocal tree]

lmao yeah I set prices manually after a quick ebay search

i7-4790 isn't worth 250

[lofty pewter]

Well duh, its MSRP is $312 so why would it be worth $250?? ||/s||

[narrow prism]

What's the recommended wattage for an Nvidia 3090?

[fierce pivot]

1000w

[narrow prism]

Looks like I'm canceling an order...

[fierce pivot]

What did you order?

[narrow prism]

https://www.newegg.com/corsair-rmx-series-rm850x-cp-9020180-na-850w/p/N82E16817139234?Item=N82E16817139234

[fierce pivot]

Ahh yeah

[fierce pivot]

Are you in the US ye?

[narrow prism]

Correct

[fierce pivot]

1 sec

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wp66Mp/phanteks-revolt-pro-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-ph-p1000gc or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VDqBD3/seasonic-focus-gx-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-focus-gx-1000

@narrow prism ^

One of those should do

Or if you want https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jRvdnQ/corsair-rmx-2021-1000-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020201-na

Bit nicer quality but only single rail

[narrow prism]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-g3-series-220-g3-1000-x1-1000w/p/N82E16817438096?quicklink=true

How about this one?

[elfin trout]

850w would probably work fine depending on the rest of system, but G3 is meh

Ocp too high set

[fierce pivot]

G3 has issues with over current protection (3090 will trip)

[elfin trout]

No

The problem is not tripping

[fierce pivot]

No?

[elfin trout]

It's set to like 180% or smth

[fierce pivot]

Ohhh

Wtf

[elfin trout]

Way to high set

Lemme check what it actually is

[narrow prism]

I'm only going to have a Ryzen 7 5800x for CPU

[elfin trout]

143%, still way too high, should be like 120%

[fierce pivot]

Yeah too much

[fierce pivot]

Sorry i misread this(meant the 3090 should trip the psu but that one probs wouldn't)

[elfin trout]

With a 5800x, 850w should be okay for 5800x+3090 tbh, 3090 is only gonna do like 500w peaks

Assuming the card isn't like kp

[fierce pivot]

True but the revolt pro 1000w is like 5$ more than the rmx 850w anyway

[narrow prism]

Plus I'm only using it for gaming, no crypto mining or video editing

[elfin trout]

I mean, Revo d.f. 850w is kinda like 120$

[fierce pivot]

Well crypto actually uses a lot less power

[unreal epoch]

Yeah, Crypto if done right uses LESS power than Gaming.

[fierce pivot]

Msi agf 850w is 110 atm

[elfin trout]

Ye, most miners will run it at like 60% PL

Both works

Oh yea

By the way

Otp is set really high on G3 too

180c

[unreal epoch]

Jesus

[fierce pivot]

Whatttt

[unreal epoch]

Note to Self: Never buy a G3 EVGA PSU

[fierce pivot]

@tender rapids found your problem with the g3 you had

[unreal epoch]

Also Another Note To Self: Pat myself on the back for buying a G2

[elfin trout]

I'm a proud owner of a G3 and it hasn't caught on fire

yet.

[fierce pivot]

Rommys fried mobo and ram iirc

[elfin trout]

Sad

[fierce pivot]

Yikes

[elfin trout]

Mine has been running for more than a year, although I'm pulling like 500w max on a 750w unit

[fierce pivot]

That's a nice amount of headroom

[elfin trout]

Welp, that's why I tell people not to get what I have :p

[fierce pivot]

Lol

Do as i say not as i do

[chrome iris]

I’m a proud owner of a Phanteks AMP

[fierce pivot]

I'm proud owner of enermax revolution d.f.

[quick tundra]

@fierce pivot Lol my new PSU just did the same thing

[fierce pivot]

Fried something?

[quick tundra]

Fried my motherboard after two weeks of working

[fierce pivot]

What psu?

[quick tundra]

Gamemax 850W

[fierce pivot]

Ahh

[quick tundra]

Really sucks

[fierce pivot]

Never cheap out on a psu

[quick tundra]

Getting a new mobo today tho

[fierce pivot]

Did you try claim the mobo against gamemax?

Would highly recommend rmaing the psu anyway

[quick tundra]

I haven’t

[fierce pivot]

Rma it lol

[quick tundra]

Any more trustworthy PSUs? Any recs?

[fierce pivot]

Usa?

[quick tundra]

Yeah

[fierce pivot]

Msi agf

Phanteks amp

Enermax revolution d.f.

Heck depending on your parts, a segotep gp 600w

[quick tundra]

I’m actually wondering if I should go up to like 1000W cause I’ve got a 3080 ti

[fierce pivot]

Ohhh ehh any of the 3 i listed above(bar the 600w segotep) would be enough in 850w

Depending on what the cpu is?

[quick tundra]

An i9 10900

[fierce pivot]

10900k?

Or non k?

[quick tundra]

10900F specifically

[fierce pivot]

Yeah then https://pcpartpicker.com/product/WxZzK8/msi-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpg-a850gf

Or https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CQNgXL/enermax-revolution-df-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-erf850ewt

[quick tundra]

Thank you

[fierce pivot]

Np

[odd rapids]

Wouldn’t do G3, OTP and OPP set too high

Apparently some people reported their 1000w’s dying after OPP was triggered and also heard popping noises

Aris reported his unit died during OPP testing as well

[quick tundra]

Jeez

I’m assuming that’s something that can be changed by downloading a tool from the manufacturer?

[fierce pivot]

No

No updates for power supply unless physical and you got to buy again lol

[sand atlas]

Unless you're Gigabyte and are being almost forced to give out free revised units because of catastrophic issues

[fierce pivot]

There's an exception that confirms the rule or something like that

[elfin trout]

Gigabyte has to physically change the ocp triggering points for their p-gm fix, which probably won't even fix the blowing up issue

[serene jasper]

Not sure where to ask about this... What is everyone's thoughts on this cable mod kit? https://tinyurl.com/yx6h8ht6

Jus tnot sure I want to splurge on asiahorse

[fierce pivot]

Only get extensions don't get custom cables, has to be too specific

[serene jasper]

that's what it is! sorry

[fierce pivot]

Extensions are fine ye

[hollow badge]

is the corsair rm psu any good cause it relatively cheap

[minor portal]

najmi27#7531 has been warned

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[odd rapids]

It’s cheap rn in the states

It’s an alright PSU and for the price rn in USD, good buy

[vocal tree]

A tier

yeah it's okayyy I guess

[odd rapids]

Normally, TXM > RM

But RM price has been good so can’t complain

[fierce pivot]

Only the 650w one is* 750w and 850w are trash prices

[odd rapids]

Yeah

Sorry, should have been more clear haha

[fierce pivot]

Rm 650w is decent at it's price now

[fierce pivot]

It's fine just incase the look at 750w instead or something

[odd rapids]

Yep

[elfin trout]

a gf is good for all of us

[fierce pivot]

Msi agf is usually cheapest a tier in most countries tbf

[scenic lance]

anyone know when the lian li q58 is coming out

[scenic lance]

I would love to have a gf

[weary vine]

Maybe soon i get a gf

[split beacon]

"get"?

i buy mine

[elfin trout]

buy it off amazon, it's cheap rn
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08PDZQZN2/

[fierce pivot]

750w is nais price too

[scenic lance]

Opinions? This is on a power supply.

A buddy of mine is saying that, that obviously damaged SMD is just fine lol

[cosmic sinew]

@scenic lance looks like a burnt resistor

At this point, the resistor is unable to resist the flow of current forced through by the excessive voltage and the resistor breaks down. When a resistor breaks down, current typically flows through the burnt resistor without any resistance and thereby passes unchecked. Other components in the circuit may become damaged from the excess current flowing through.

[scenic lance]

Exactly thats what I was saying

I just needed a sanity check lmao

[cosmic sinew]

The only thing I'd replace on a psu is maybe a fan. Any other diy fix risks taking other components worth alot more than a psu with it imho. @scenic lance

[tacit wren]

That's a zener diode, idk what the gunk around it is for, but looks like some kind of potting?

What psu is this? Why is your buddy poking around the insides?

[scenic lance]

He got it for free with a used case he bought. Im not sure why he opened it though

I told him not to use it and convinced him, but then he went ahead and sold it to a guy without saying anything

[sand atlas]

Previously used psu is in general

[formal lotus]

Does the Corsair 5000D support a 420mm aio?

[sand atlas]

No, 280/360 max

Check out the fractal torrent

[formal lotus]

Yep someone else already told me but ty.

Got my sights on the 7000D now.

[sand atlas]

Nice that'll do it

[mild roost]

ah yes

7000D, the chonker

[sand atlas]

Big chungus, if you will

[rapid forum]

Who else is here because the pc giveaway

[mild roost]

inb4 corsair makes 9000D

[sand atlas]

Oh they'll do it. And it'll support 560mm radiators.

Or better yet, 720mm (4x180mm)

[mild roost]

yeah

it wouldn't fit in a compact car's trunk if that's so

unless it's a hatch or you put it on the rear seats

[tacit wren]

All three of my 1600 t2's, an 850 t2, all of my supermicro and HP server psus came from ebay/amazon used, no fire yet - ironically the only psu problem I have is my 850w seasonic prime ultra that trips ocp at 450w lol

Just don't buy from a sketchy seller, especially if they don't know how to ship properly.

[sand atlas]

Good quality server units are an exception of course. Those are made to last forever.

[tacit wren]

I actually killed an hp 750w plat common slot using it to power a 1kw brushless motor and varying the throttle too quickly, no idea how

[fervent terrace]

yes joined tonight

[vocal pulsar]

Lol me too, I'd probably commit war crimes for that pc

[raw cedar]

only warcrimes?

thats rookie against what i would do

[vocal pulsar]

Lol

[rapid forum]

Well I wouldn't kill for a pc like that but it would be a shame if I lost the thing cus I've never had a pc

[sick sparrow]

Okay guys! I'm in the market for a case. What's y'all's favorites?

[tacit wren]

O11's are nice and spacious. I would browse this page to see what you like aesthetically. https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/

[torn rain]

im using a phanteks p500a and it's really nice. the cable management is nice to work with too

[fierce pivot]

In order of preference, p500a digital/lian li lancool mesh ii/215, p500a/corsair 5000d airflow, p400a digital, p400a/Corsair 4000d airflow, p360a

[sand venture]

is this 3 pack of fans good enough for the Corsair iCUE 4000X ATX mid tower?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/FCvqqs/cooler-master-sickleflow-62-cfm-120-mm-fans-3-pack-mfx-b2dn-183pa-r1

[fierce pivot]

I really wouldn't get the 4000x

And it already comes with 4 fans which is plenty anyway

[sand venture]

oh ok

[split saffron]

Is small pc is good like mini atx or mid tower is batter

This is my pc

I am thinking to minimize my set up

Anyone can advise me

[fierce pivot]

You're looking for micro atx cases?

[split saffron]

Yeah

I want to build small pc

That not take space on my table

[fierce pivot]

Well micro atx will take up the same amount of length and width, just less height than a compact atx

If you want to save space(not vertical)

You kinda have to go itx

Itx spenive fho

[split saffron]

Ok thank u

[vocal pulsar]

Damn, i hope you win one of the pcs bruh, the other 2 are mineee! Lol

[rapid forum]

As long as i get something of value i don't care who gets what

[vocal pulsar]

Cool, what if you don't

[jaunty pasture]

This pissed me off. I can't connect the USB cable because the case didn't allow space for it.

[fierce pivot]

time to take out the dremel

[jaunty pasture]

I actually did Google how expensive those tools are... Kinda pricy, lol

[sand venture]

whats a good cooler for the i5-10600KF

[fierce pivot]

I wouldn't buy a 10600k in 2021

But scythe fuma 2 (depending on region)

[sand atlas]

Oddly specific there but ok

[quick gale]

anyone running a BeQuiet pure base 500dx? looking to do a white and black build, wondering how difficult the front mesh would be to remove and paint. meshify2 compact and Lian Li lancool 2 mesh are also on my list.

[sick sparrow]

Anyone here try putting a gpu 240 radiator on the side of a 5000D case?

[vocal tree]

probably a lot

[sick sparrow]

Im just curious if a gpu 240 radiator can fit on the side, while also having fans on the front? I skimmed through photos online and couldnt find any examples of a radiator on the side.

[vocal tree]

I can't be sure but it looks like there's enough room for such from the product images to me

[sick sparrow]

Yeahh thats what Im thinking but I wanted to be sure before I went through the hastle of ordering it, waiting for it, then it not working XD

[vocal tree]

I think especially from this perspective it looks like enough room

and these fans could be moved to the right a little

[sick sparrow]

Yeah thats that photo I was looking at!
I mean I guess if anything, there are fans that are smaller than 120 right?

I could put smaller fans on the front if it does take up to much room

[grave dune]

yo u guyz are so lucky, i have some waste pc

i have frikin gt710

and 8gb ram which is better than the older lapotp i had

[vocal tree]

I probably wouldn't put smaller fans in it, but I have thought about 92mm fans stretched across 120mm mounts

[sick sparrow]

it doesnt come with them so its not like i would have a bunch of fans go to waste

[vocal tree]

a^2+b^2=c^2...which means...

a 92mm fan could stretch across a 130mm gap

quick maffs

:^)

I have a couple of 92mms lol I could probably try it out with something

but not with me and it's best to leave them mounted where they are

https://www.ebay.com/itm/182362214574 looks like you could get some used cheap

[rich briar]

@fierce pivot i trust your input.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X7WHPV what case should I get for my workstation? I was thinking of doing an open air case but my cat might change my mind.

[hollow gale]

1. You dont need an X570 motherboard, can get the same perfomance from a B550 board
2. Cases: Lian Li Lancool 2 Mesh/Lancool 215, Phanteks P500A/P400A, Corsair 4000D/5000D Airflow, Cooler Master TD500 Mesh

[rich briar]

Im reusing the X570. Everything on there i already own

[hollow gale]

oh right. well then, the cases I listed

[fierce pivot]

Is everything else bought ? Those prices are ehhh

Ohh nvm

[fierce pivot]

I'd go p500a digital

[rich briar]

I changed the GPU to the price i paid. But everything else has gone up quite a bit since I purchased it

Like the ram for example is 100$ more than what I paid including tax 😬

[fierce pivot]

Fair enough

[rich briar]

Prices are wonky these days

[raw cedar]

shareing is careing

so gimme

lol

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lakshu vasan#2659 has been warned

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[vocal pulsar]

I could give you my old pc, it has an epic dual core cpu :D

[half vigil]

Everyone's favourite case?

[mild roost]

My favs are, Corsair 4000D/5000D/7000D, all Airflow version, Lian Li O11D/O11D XL, Phanteks P300A/360A/400A/500A and lastly, Fractal Design Meshify C and Focus G

All good airflow cases

[raw cedar]

my pc is the acer predator g3-605 it is uggly no rgb D:

[half vigil]

Only a couple of favs then 😂 you built in many of them

[mild roost]

I haven't built in any, but I judge from detailed reviews

[half vigil]

Fair enough, what case you got

[tacit raft]

would yall recommend the 4000d rgb? or should I just go with an airflow?

[fierce pivot]

I wouldn't recommend the 4000x, which is what you're thinking of

I'd go with the 4000d airflow or the phanteks p400a digital, if you want some rgb fans

[vocal pulsar]

Don't

[raw cedar]

Don’t what?

[vocal pulsar]

Do not

[raw cedar]

Do not add rgb?

[thorn swan]

What full ATX cases would anyone recommend with good airflow for around $100?

[vocal pulsar]

Don't

[sand atlas]

By full atx do you mean regular atx or extended?
Regular atx you can do something like corsair 4000d or meshify c
Extended is a bit more complicated

[rich marten]

nice case? I am going to add 3 more fans to the front and take the stock front fan and make it exhaust on the top https://pcpartpicker.com/product/bCYQzy/corsair-4000d-airflow-atx-mid-tower-case-cc-9011200-ww

[mild roost]

yes

[rich marten]

epic

[mild roost]

is good case

one of my favs

[fierce pivot]

Imo just get a p400a digital but ueaj

[sick sparrow]

Is the cooling difference between the Corsair 5000D and the Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL a huge margin to where I should probably just get the 5000D for air cooling?
Or is the Dynamic XL still great?

[elfin trout]

For air cooling, o11 is just kinda bad

O11 won't support any good air coolers, like d15 and drp4 won't fit in an o11

And it's just not really designed for air cooling

[sick sparrow]

Okee thank you. You made that choice easier then

[elfin trout]

Grab 5000d airflow tho

[sick sparrow]

Yeah I'm going to :)

[elfin trout]

Gud

[hoary epoch]

The 5000D airflow is one of the best cases i have worked with and it has a lot of room and great cable management space and designed to have the shroud in the front portion can be swapped with a different style for better airflow if you have a 360mm rad if you cant place it in the top

[atomic pulsar]

this^

i loved the 5000d ever since i first saw it. it was my dream case lol and i finally got it and damn, its such a sexy case. and a dream to work with

[scenic lance]

Hi all, I'm looking to put together a small-scale PC that will live in my living room and connect to my TV to view photos, do some streaming and surfing. I'm planning to use parts from my existing systems and would like to get a small and clean case (black preferably). I will most likely use my old b450m mainboard, Ryzen 5 3500x and a separate low-end graphics card. Do you have any recommendations for a case for that use case?

[hoary epoch]

What size is your motherboard

Wait nvm i see it sorry

So looking for a Matx case

So here is a cheap matx case that appears to have decent airflow as well with a removable dust filter https://www.newegg.com/black-fractal-design-core-1000-micro-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811352032

[scenic lance]

Thanks! With the matx board, is it possible to get significantly smaller? Like half the size of the one you linked?

[wanton briar]

You could go Mini ITX but you would have to buy a new motherboard.

[hoary epoch]

Yeah but you will need to get a new mini itx mobo and it can get pricey and a pain to work with

[wanton briar]

Only mATX cases that are more compact either are very very expensive or ones that I would not recommend

[hoary epoch]

Yeah^^

[scenic lance]

Okay, fair point, thanks!

I'll need to figure out a way to get it mostly out of view. Aesthetics and such ;)

Don't wanna go overboard with cost

[hoary epoch]

Yeah and plus the case i provided is a case that you can place on carpet (highly highly not recommended still) but if ya have a cabinet to hide it and hide some cables and do wireless periphs then your set for a hidden pc

[scenic lance]

if anyone is wondering about the corsair 680x, it’s a great case, i love it

[rich marten]

its so ugly tho 😫

[sand atlas]

4000d airflow then

[rich marten]

yeah lmao

[vocal tartan]

Does anybody know the psu shroud dimensions for the thermaltake h200 tg snow rgb? asking for a friend because he wants to buy one of those covers from v1 tech. can't find the dimensions

[wanton briar]

Just measure it

[sand atlas]

It fits standard ATX form factor so go by that

[charred pier]

https://www.newegg.com/evga-750-gq-210-gq-0750-v1-750w/p/N82E16817438060?Item=N82E16817438060&quicklink=true is this good?

[sand atlas]

That's a tier C unit, I wouldn't use it for anything above a 3060 ti

[charred pier]

Well im using it for a 3060

[sand atlas]

Then it's fine

And you also don't need so much power

[charred pier]

but its fine right?

[sand atlas]

It'll be fine yeah but I can probably find you a cheaper unit that's a higher tier

No way you need that much power for a 3060 unless you're running a dual socket server

[charred pier]

Could you find me one then?

[sand atlas]

Low B instead of C and cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BtrYcf/evga-b5-650-w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-b5-0650-v1

[chrome iris]

i wish we knew more about the B5

[charred pier]

so thats good for a 3060 and an i5-11400f

[sand atlas]

More than you need for that still, but it'll do just fine

[charred pier]

[sand atlas]

If anything it'll just be quieter under load because it's not running close to capacity

[charred pier]

Ok

[fierce pivot]

4000d airflow also nice option

[hollow gale]

4000d*

[cedar quail]

Anyone know if you can fit big size cpu air coolers(like the NH-D15) in the NR200?

[hollow gale]

you need to look at the case specs on the case web page

but I seriously doubt it

that case is best suited to a 240/280mm AIO

[cedar quail]

Gotcha tyty

Bc I was planning to build pc for college and was choosing between a mid atx or a mini itx

[hollow gale]

are you building from scratch? or do yu have some parts already?

cos I think a NR200 build would be best.

[fierce pivot]

Ty

[fierce pivot]

No it's to tall, if you put the case into https://pcpartpicker.com/list and then go into coolers, you'll see which ones fit

Nr200 or ssupd meshilicous

For itx imo

[blissful thistle]

Opinion on this psu @fierce pivot ?

Helping someone who has it

They want to mine so I'm making sure their psu wont explode

[elfin trout]

@blissful thistle hcg bronze is meh, shouldn't blow up but don't expect much from it

[blissful thistle]

Kk thanks

It's a 3060 ti anyways

[elfin trout]

Eh

It's like ba/br level

Tier C

[blissful thistle]

Alr

How's it compare to bq 750w outta curiosity?

[elfin trout]

Same tier

[blissful thistle]

Kk

[timber quest]

some good case with good airflow

but also having such a huge price?

[elfin trout]

What budget

[timber quest]

not more than 100 euro

but

BUT

but it should have the height more than 43 cm

and the width more than 22cm

[elfin trout]

?

Why so specific?

[timber quest]

cuz i have a special space for my pc in my desk

i found one

MUSETEX Phantom Black ATX Mid-Tower Case with USB 3.0 and 6 ×120mm ARGB Fans, Tempered Glass Panels Gaming PC Case Computer Chassis（G05MN6-HB）

[elfin trout]

Can't really vouch for musetex but you do you

[timber quest]

okk

[minor portal]

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Reason: Too many infractions

[sour dome]

bye bye... Lol

[hollow gale]

NR200P MAX. comes with 850W PSU, 280mm AIO pre installed and cable managed, for $350. Amazing

[fierce pivot]

Mmmmm

Meh

[elfin trout]

Quite nice

[hollow gale]

"Meh"?

you joking

[fierce pivot]

Nr200 is like 70?

[elfin trout]

Mostly because it only takes sfx-L PSUs

[fierce pivot]

850w msi agf 110

Ohh yeah forgot sfx

[hollow gale]

yes, but 850w SFX psu and 280mm AIO

[elfin trout]

And a 850w sfx/sfx-L PSU gets expensive

Hopefully good aio

[fierce pivot]

Had smooth brain noment

[elfin trout]

Is ok

[hollow gale]

kept an 11900 cool just fine. Check out Gear Seekers Video

[elfin trout]

Ehhh

Intel PLs are really weird

[fierce pivot]

Wait 850w sfx psu? There's not 1 on pcpp

[hollow gale]

pcpp?

[fierce pivot]

Pcpartpicker.com

[elfin trout]

Oo really interesting claims for the aio

It claims support for lga1700

Although it's probably just separate mounting, since Noctua did say lga1700 was different from lga1200, but it doesn't claim support for am5 yet

[hollow gale]

oh.. case also comes with a gen 4 PCIe riser

[hollow gale]

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Q36qqs/cooler-master-v-sfx-gold-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-sfx-power-supply-mpy-8501-sfhagv-us

this one comes with the casee

[elfin trout]

But yea pretty neat

I like it

The custom work (custom length tubes and wires) is worth the little extra over buying everything separate I'd say

[fierce pivot]

Nvm compatibility weird probs

Nice psu

[fierce pivot]

Ohh nice

[fierce pivot]

Ohh thsy spensive

[hollow gale]

right? and its pre installed and cable managed. literally took the dude on GS 15 minues to build in it

[fierce pivot]

That is cool

[elfin trout]

Yea, quite a neat thing

[leaden bridge]

can I swap a Corsair RM750 with a Corsair RM1000x without swapping all the cables?

[fierce pivot]

I wouldn't risk it

As you're going rm to rmx

Pinouts could be different

[elfin trout]

Compatibility chart is here, 24pin is different from old RM
https://www.corsair.com/us/en/psu-cable-compatibility

[leaden bridge]

so I could leave EPS? that's the headache I'm trying to avoid

[elfin trout]

supposed to be the same cable but it's usually not that much of a hassle

generally 24pin is a bigger hassle because of how hard it is to put in/out

[fierce pivot]

That's neat, although this is my mobile view ;-; no scroll to left lol

[leaden bridge]

top mounted rad makes it extremely difficult to work around and I'd rather not have to remove it if possible

[leaden bridge]

same, this is why I came here to ask hahaha

[elfin trout]

here ya go

sad

[leaden bridge]

for that matter, I would only have to swap 24 pin right? that's no prob

can avoid SATA and PCIe troubles

[fierce pivot]

Ty, wait so rm uses type 3 and type 4?

[leaden bridge]

very confusing chart lol

[elfin trout]

corsair is dumb

[leaden bridge]

raddd

[charred pier]

Just to be sure, is this good enough for a 3060 and an i5-11400f? https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BtrYcf/evga-b5-650-w-80-bronze-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-b5-0650-v1

I've asked before but I want multiple opinions

[fierce pivot]

"only difference"

[fierce pivot]

It'll do grand yes

[charred pier]

Great

[steady urchin]

can someone suggest me a good ATX case under 60 dollars

[wanton briar]

P300a, Focus G

MX330g air or something

[steady urchin]

thanks

[wanton briar]

P400a without RGB fans is like $75

[elfin trout]

Mx330-g air

P360a

Metalicgear neo air

[steady urchin]

you guys are really helpful

[proven wagon]

does anybody happen to have a 2021 corsair Rm850x with an EVGA FTW3 3080ti setup? If so, did you have to order a 3rd pci-e cable for the gpu or did you use the 2 it comes with, plus daisy chain?

[outer folio]

it comes with 2 pcie cables, each with 2 6+2 connectors

[mild roost]

2 6+2 should be fine

wait, huh

it has 3 8 pins?

that's crazy lol

[sand atlas]

Yeah it has a 450W max power limit overclocked

More than some 3090s I know...

[weary vine]

urs?

[sand atlas]

Yes 🥲

[weary vine]

pre vbios flash that is

[sand atlas]

Problem is even with a 500W vbios I'm still limited to about 400W because it thinks it's getting power from the nonexistent third 8 pin

[outer crater]

Holy damn, thing is gonna make your gigabyte PSU go pop

[weary vine]

ouch trash 3090. give it to me to "dispose" it and get a new one

JK ofc

[sand atlas]

I made 2 go pop

[outer crater]

Bahaha of course you did

[weary vine]

Ahhhhh makes sense

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[mystic bough]

Did anyone else have a really hard time deciding on a case?

Right now I am sitting on a complete build, all boxed up and ready to go, I'm just having a really hard time making the decision as to which box this system will live in. So many options. Lian Li O11D XL, Phanteks 719, corsair 7000x, Cosmo c700m - what sucks is the case I think I would be most happy with is the lian li v3000+ but that doesn't release until November - and there is no way I am waiting longer for this build to be finished lol

[hollow gale]

the corsair 7000d is not good. Same cooling as the 5000d. avoid

I saw reviews of the 719 and reviewers were not impressed with its practical aspects.

[fierce pivot]

Welll that's unless you're doing custom loop

[fierce pivot]

I would go 7000d airflow if you're doing a custom loop, otherwise phanteks p500a

Or 5000d airflow if you like the look of that better and are okay adding some moar fans

[mystic bough]

🙂 thank you for the suggestions, I will check these out! I forgot to mention this is going to be an E-Atx build and I have a 360 aio from nzxt.

[hollow gale]

you need to then check the physical dimenions of your motherboard and see if the cases you selected will fit them, because EATX is not a standard,

[mild roost]

7000D is huge boi

[fierce pivot]

5000d airflow and p500a support e atx afaik

And both have 360mm top mounting support for your aio, but I'd buy an ek rgb, arctic liquid ii or lian li Galahad instead

Nzxt aios are meh

And expensive

[mystic bough]

it's 12.0" x 10.9" and super super super heavy. I have never had a mb that weighted this much before

[fierce pivot]

Why such a chonky motherboard?

[mystic bough]

I bought the AIO a year ago and it has been sitting in the box this whole time, so it is way past the return date. I plan to top mount it (which was the reason I ended up passing on the Lancool II case, because it would not fit at the top)

[fierce pivot]

Fair enough, both p500a and 5000d airflow can top mount it tho

[mystic bough]

I was not expecting this to weigh so much until it came in the mail. it is the new x570 board from asus the crosshair viii extreme

I will check out the p500a though for sure

[fierce pivot]

I would also return that if possible

[mystic bough]

nah, I was looking forward to this board since may. I like that it has TB4 built onto the io, and can run 5 m.2 without taking up a pcie slot

[fierce pivot]

Ahh if you need the thunderbolt that's fair enough

[hollow gale]

that board is not taller than ATX, just a bit wider, should fit in MOST atx cases

[mystic bough]

oh good to know!

[proven wagon]

I went with the 4000D airflow. temps under load never go over 60 degrees. running 3900x and 2080 super atm

[fierce pivot]

That highly depends on what cpu cooler your using and what 2080 super lol

[hidden lance]

AMD 5800x and 32 gb of ram, how do i know how many watts i need

[fierce pivot]

What graphics card

[hidden lance]

i havent got one yet

im guessing after knowing what gpu i have, i should get a psu for those requirements

[fierce pivot]

Well what you aiming for?