cases-psu-and-cooling

[dusky wyvern]

alright il look into it

[fierce pivot]

And Corsair 5000d airflow, basically a big 4000d

[elfin trout]

Except 5000d price a bit dumb

Coolermaster H500 no suffix also an option

P500a great

[fierce pivot]

But 5000d looks so niceeee

[hollow gale]

wait. do you mean you want something SMALLER than the MB520?

or do you want something BIGGER?

[dusky wyvern]

Bigger

[hollow gale]

Why do you want it bigger? for more colling or ...?

[dusky wyvern]

pretty much space

[hollow gale]

then the Corsair 5000 series is what you want

[dusky wyvern]

I like the 5kd airflow, kinda considering that.

[hollow gale]

the other cases mentioned are about the same size as your current one

the Phanteks P500a/P600 is another one you might look into

[weary vine]

Why not 4000d airflow

[dusky wyvern]

I got 3 options, 5kd airflow,lian li 011 dynamic razer edition or white or Asus TUF GT501

[weary vine]

why no 4000d airflow

[dusky wyvern]

i need more space, also its the same size as my MB520

[weary vine]

4000d airflow is enough for custom loop and stuff tbh

https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/blog/4000-5000-series-case-comparison

[fierce pivot]

Don't get the o11d ino

[weary vine]

^

[fierce pivot]

No 2 360 rads tho

[hollow gale]

dude wants a big case. 5000D, P500A, Meshify 2

011D XL

[dusky wyvern]

Hmm also considering the P500A

Which one is better 5000D or P500A?

[fierce pivot]

Imo 5000d

But you will need to buy a few fans

P500a comes with 3 rgb fans iirc

So if rgb matters p500a

[dusky wyvern]

already have fans so im good without

Yeah im going with the D..

[hollow gale]

thats what she said

[elfin trout]

@dusky wyvern p500a has better rad support, 420mm front instead of 5000d's 360mn front.

[tulip granite]

How much wattage for i need for 3060 + i7-10700F

[dusky wyvern]

arent they the same? both have same 420 and 360mm from front to top

and by rad support? what do you mean?

[fierce pivot]

600w psu, if it was 3060 ti I'd get a 650w tho

[fierce pivot]

Radiator support

[fierce pivot]

And no it doesn't have 420mm support

5000d can only do 360 360 max

[dusky wyvern]

not on what im looking. They are showing the same.

[fierce pivot]

Well that's the Corsair official website

Where are you looking?

[dusky wyvern]

im looking at amazon

[fierce pivot]

Can you show?

[elfin trout]

5000d doesn't support 420mm front, it's only 3x120

P500a is 3x140

[weary vine]

Hello Mr1111

[elfin trout]

From the Amazon page

Hi

[opal night]

Can confirm 3x140 in the front, I has. Also room for 420mm rad, plenty of it.

[dusky wyvern]

no wonder i was confused, i didnt read p500a, and thought it was 5000a

[elfin trout]

Lol

P500a is better imo

Phanteks box of screws is nice

[opal night]

so nice

[elfin trout]

Better support for things

Should be bigger

Should also be cheaper

[opal night]

Non-RGB is cheap yeah

[elfin trout]

Even rgb should be

Rgb should be 130$, 5000d costs like 165$

[opal night]

I wasn't sure on 5000D cost

in which case, 500A OP

[dusky wyvern]

the airflow cost 164 but rgb is like 204

[fierce pivot]

5000d airflow is 165? I thought it was 135

Yikes

Def p500a then

[elfin trout]

There's a reason I said this :p

[dusky wyvern]

hmm so the phantec then

?

[opal night]

Ya

[fierce pivot]

I didn't think it was that bad lol

[elfin trout]

Yes, Phanteks p500a digital

[dusky wyvern]

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088T78MJT/?coliid=I353DJI4EDV77L&colid=Q9RGHIJE0YAF&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

this?

[fierce pivot]

What does op stand for btw?

[elfin trout]

Ye

[elfin trout]

Overpowered

[fierce pivot]

Ye

[dusky wyvern]

alright guess il change my cart

[fierce pivot]

Ohh i thought vintage meant something else by op idk why lol

[elfin trout]

Lol

Vintage is proud p500a owner

[opal night]

That case is so nice

Only gripe is the vert mount kit isn't PCI-E 4.0, it's 3.0

Which makes some things a PITA if you're tinkering

[fierce pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/tableflip-cat-angry-mad-gif-3552726

[elfin trout]

Eh, not too many people even make pcie 4.0 risers so

[opal night]

It was also only $30 so I can't complain too much

[dusky wyvern]

just needs space so yeah

[opal night]

Vert mount is 2.5" from the glass

[dusky wyvern]

but thanks for the info on which to choose

[opal night]

3070 OC'd runs 65C

I think I'm going to full watercool loop it this winter

[fierce pivot]

:o

Spensive tho

[opal night]

IDC lol

[elfin trout]

Bykski time

It's what, 300$ for a full loop

[opal night]

For a GPU block as well?

I think it's more than that

for rads, blocks, pump, tubing, all the things

[elfin trout]

Ye

Lemme check price again

[opal night]

I planned on 800-1K for the whole thing

And most likely coincide with AM5/DDR5 upgrade

[elfin trout]

Around 300$ after shipping
https://m.aliexpress.com/item/4000807277229.html

[fierce pivot]

Thought am5 was supposed to be q2 next year

[elfin trout]

Tho might need to ask hei for which one he got again

[opal night]

Might be

I'm not doing a full loop until I upgrade tho

Although if AM5 will be late I might do it and just swap water blocks, IDK

[elfin trout]

Hell, hei might've bought extra loops and you might be able to get one from him xD

[fierce pivot]

You don't think am4 waterblocks will fit am5?

[elfin trout]

Pretty sure he bought like 3 loops for the free shipping once

[opal night]

Going from pins to LGA? Nope XD

[fierce pivot]

Why tho

[opal night]

Because completely new socket

[elfin trout]

I'm curious on what die stacking will mean for cooling

[opal night]

CPU height might be different

[fierce pivot]

Yeah but could be same mounting?

[opal night]

Heatspreader height difference

[fierce pivot]

Ahh yeah cpu height makes sense

[round pike]

Anyone recognize this logo?

[opal night]

That's a power supply yeah?

[round pike]

Yup

[opal night]

Looks kinda like Antec? But not quite

[weary vine]

any way you could pop the grill off?

[round pike]

Unfortunately can't read the label or anything without taking the whole system apart

[fierce pivot]

It looks like antec a bit yeah

[fierce pivot]

Try reverse google images search?

[round pike]

Got nothing

It's a cyberpower system if that helps at all

[elfin trout]

@round pike Looks like delta (The company that makes fans) logo

well

maybe not now I look at it again

[opal night]

This is the Delta PSU logo

[elfin trout]

reminded me of delta

[opal night]

Yeah

MOntech as well

but not quite

[elfin trout]

but PSU fan can be a different brand than the PSU itself

lemme just check the logos of common psu fan manufacturers

[opal night]

Looks like an A in the center of the white

[round pike]

True

It's a P or d in the center

[opal night]

Apevia

https://www.ubuy.co.id/en/product/C128GK2-apevia-atx-sr700w-spirit-atx-power-supply-with-auto-thermally-controlled-120mm-white-led-fan-115-230

[elfin trout]

might be it

[round pike]

Yup, that's the logo at least

These are the specs we got btw

[mild roost]

apevia, yikes

[signal birch]

whats the best power extension cable?

like for aesthetics

that isn't $$$$$$$$

[fierce pivot]

Do you mean psu cable extension? Or a normal extension cable and if so, why do you want that to be aesthetically pleasing, just hide it

[signal birch]

psu extension

this is the psu channel

[fierce pivot]

I was just checking lol

[signal birch]

ok

[fierce pivot]

Ehh what psu do you have?

[signal birch]

the segotep gp 650w

(80+ gold)

[fierce pivot]

Ehhhh idk what the pinouts for segotep are like so i can't recommend you of any tbh sorry

[signal birch]

ok

[fierce pivot]

Wait nvm

[signal birch]

its just for cpu gpu and 24 pin rly

[fierce pivot]

Extensions should be fine afaik

Cable mod do decent ones I think

[signal birch]

ok

thx

[fiery moss]

Anyone know any good white power supplies that have a watt output display?

Going for a white theme with the thermaltake view 71 snow case

[fierce pivot]

For the display just make your own tbh

White power supplies that are good usually are only rmx and asus rog iirc

[fiery moss]

took a look at the both of them and it seems the asus rog is the way to go. Individually sleeved cables and a neat design

how would I go about making my own tho?

[fierce pivot]

https://youtu.be/RTdniu3gn3Y

[fiery moss]

thanks

[fierce pivot]

Np

[remote inlet]

lol

I found out in building in the 5000d

that my power supply was pretty big

😄

that was fun lol

[fierce pivot]

How do you mean lol

[remote inlet]

it was long

my psu

and it was difficult to make everything fit

[fierce pivot]

Oof really?

What psu?

[static bridge]

Does anyone know where I can find an okay case for $50 or less

[tulip granite]

How long should it take to swap out my old psu for a new one (first time doing it)

[fierce pivot]

Depends how quickly you manage to get the 24 pin connector out XD

[tulip granite]

seriously, 1 hr, 2 hrs, 3???

[fierce pivot]

Like 20 mins 30 mb

[tulip granite]

k thx

[opal night]

Depends on how OCD you are with cable management as well

[tulip granite]

how hard do I have to pull

[fierce pivot]

20 30 mins was for the whole system i meant

[opal night]

The main ATX connector is the toughest

usually

[fierce pivot]

Although the 24 pin is a explicit to get out

[opal night]

Pinch and wiggle it side to side

[tulip granite]

I push down on that tab thing on it right

[fierce pivot]

Ye

[opal night]

Yeah the tab that unhooks it

It'll make your thumb hurt though XD

[fierce pivot]

100%

[opal night]

I use pliers XD

[tulip granite]

do i push down or pull up on the tab

[opal night]

Push the tab towards the connector

[tulip granite]

It must be glued on there cause its stuck (this was a prebuilt)

[opal night]

Ya, most ATX connectors are

Gotta wiggle while you pull

Long ways, one end at a time

[tulip granite]

I pushed it down and heard a click, is that bad

[opal night]

No that just means you reseated it

and it was starting to come out

[fierce pivot]

Remember to push towards the top and not the bottom of the tab lol

[tulip granite]

yeah, its not coming out, any tips

I legit have blisters on my finger from pulling so hard

[opal night]

Pliers

Just be careful

Might wanna take your ram out first

XD

[tulip granite]

fo pulling or holding the clip down

[opal night]

Both

Hold the clip and pull

[tulip granite]

why do they makes these so hard to remove

Could I simply use the same cable just for the 24 pin

[fierce pivot]

I wouldn't

Different pinouts

[tulip granite]

whats the risk?

[fierce pivot]

For different psus

Fire

Fry parts

[tulip granite]

or ur being serious, shit, cause this guy aint coming out

[opal night]

Yeah we serious. Even PSU models within the same brand can have different ATX pinouts

Generally CPU/PCI-E and Sata are OK but ATX is hit or miss

[tulip granite]

If they have the same one is it fine

[opal night]

How do you know it's the same pinout?

ON the power supply side

[fierce pivot]

Unless it's the exact same model i would just suffer getting it out

[tulip granite]

It was a pre built, they wouldnt like solder it on right?

[fierce pivot]

Nonono

[tulip granite]

ok, so it is removable, but its not removing, aggghhhh

[fierce pivot]

Yes it is

[tulip granite]

why do they makes these things so hard 😦

[fierce pivot]

[tulip granite]

I might have to take this to a microcenter lol

[fierce pivot]

My recommendation, give your hands 5 10 minutes to rest

Then try again

[opal night]

And do one end at a time

If you can see the clip isn't hooked anymore, pull on one end and then the other

[tulip granite]

there are more then one end???

I though it was just the one clip

[opal night]

There is just one clip

If the clip is unhooked because it's a little bit out, pull on one end and then the other, back and forth

It's a long skinny connector

[tulip granite]

yeah, by one end and then the other, u mean the ends of the "block" thats connected to the mobo right

[opal night]

Yeah

[tulip granite]

Am i doing this right

[fierce pivot]

Yeah it's just a pain in the ass

[tulip granite]

imm rest for a bit

[fierce pivot]

I find taking the 4 pin out first if possible helps a bit

But yeah just rest for a bit

[tulip granite]

thats the one on the top left right

[opal night]

Some 24 pin connectors are a 4 pin +20 pin

Not a solid 24 pin

[fierce pivot]

Meant what vintage said not the CPU connector

[tulip granite]

oh okay

with the clip on the 24 pin, do I push down in the back part or front part of it

[fierce pivot]

What do you mean?

Theres only a front part?

[tulip granite]

A or B

[fierce pivot]

I push in the top middle ish

So more A

[tulip granite]

Ive pushing the back lol

imma try it in a few minutes once I let my finger rush

[fierce pivot]

You pushing down?

Cuz you see you want to lift it above the latch

[tulip granite]

ohh okay, i think ive been pushing it into the latch more lol, omg this is kinda funny

[opal night]

Yeah you wanna push on A

[fierce pivot]

Lol

[tulip granite]

GOT IT WOOOHHOOO, thanks for the help yall!!!

Out of curiosity, is there a reason they make them so hard to remove? The gpu one took me like 10 seconds

[opal night]

They're just a tight fit for the most part

[tulip granite]

makes sense

and when testing to make sure stuff works, i can leave the case panels off right?

[opal night]

of course

[tulip granite]

cool, thx

Is it fine if I let my radiator dangle a bit while working (i gotta remove it so I can get to my cpu connector) or should I remove it entirely

[opal night]

Ya

[tulip granite]

I can let in dangle

[opal night]

Ya itll be fine

[tulip granite]

k thx

[tender python]

Recommendations for good 1000-1200w psu. Tia.

[slate creek]

https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[tender python]

Thank you.

[slate creek]

No problem

[tulip granite]

ok, old psu has been extracted, now to spend an hour getting the wires out

[tulip granite]

my prebuild came with one of those "rgb chips" it had a wire going from it to a psu wire to the psu, I can reuse that wire for the rgb chip right?

[tulip granite]

Do I plug the cpu psu cable into "CPU/PCI-E 1" or "CPU/PCI-E" on the psu?

[opal night]

Doesnt matter

[tulip granite]

and where does the gpu one go, I have "CPU/PCI-E 1," an empty 8 pin, and "Peripheral-IDE/SATA/Molex" and the wire I use is PCI-E right?

[fierce pivot]

I think so

[tulip granite]

Which is on which is off?

[weary vine]

line down is on

[tulip granite]

psu done, on to gpu

Will my psu "save itself" it if gets too hot?

[weary vine]

depends on which one you have

[tulip granite]

https://www.newegg.com/seasonic-focus-plus-650-gold-ssr-650fx-650w/p/N82E16817151186?Item=N82E16817151186

[weary vine]

doesnt seem like it but I definitely could be wrong

psus in general is my weakest link when it comes to pcs

If set up right there shouldnt be a reason for it to heat up

remember the fan on the psu goes on the bottom unless your case specifies the fan points towards the top

@tulip granite

[tulip granite]

yeah, i put the fan on the bottom and put it on normal mode instead of hybrid

(normal = fan always on) ( hybrid = fan on only when needed)

[weary vine]

leave it on hybrid

fans have a life as well

[elfin trout]

Should have otp

[tulip granite]

Wouldnt it be better to leave it on normal if im gonna be using it for gaming

[weary vine]

It will turn on the fan if it needs the fan

[tulip granite]

ok

[sand atlas]

In very rare cases the hybrid mode will cause problems but that's the exception, not the rule. I typically only use normal mode when I'm testing a new unit.

[chrome iris]

So this guy I’m talking to has an EVGA G3, 550w, and says that he spilled water into it and now his PC won’t work lol. Do you think that’s just an issue with the PSU or is it good enough to not fry any other parts?

[opal night]

That very well could have put 110 VAC into every part the PSU is connected to :/

Only way to know is get another one and test it

[chrome iris]

🧊

Gotcha

[remote inlet]

How do I calculate what PSU I should have?

[chrome iris]

what is your CPU/GPU gonna be

[remote inlet]

I have a 1000w but I am pretty sure its a bit overkill, and a bit large in my case

R7 3700x, 3070ti (might get 3080)

[chrome iris]

1000w is definitely enough

which 1000w?

[remote inlet]

I think EVGA P2

[chrome iris]

no need to do anything, thats a good unit and great wattage

[remote inlet]

Only considering because of the size

Eh, Ill work around it then I've had no issues so far so whatever

[scenic lance]

Is a 750 watt fine for a 10850k and a 580

I was wanting to statically oc the 10850k to mid high 4s

So should it be fine wattage wise

[fierce pivot]

Yeah plenty

[chrome iris]

Definitely

[north fox]

How did he manage that

[chrome iris]

Bruh idk

[slate creek]

He wanted to watercool obviously

[sterile pasture]

Quick question...is an 850W PSU enough for a 5950x/6900xt combo?

[elfin trout]

As long as you don't oc, should be fine

5950x draws up to around 150w stock, 6900xt up to 500w, plus an estimate of around 100w rest of system power

[sterile pasture]

Thx for the tip. So if I decide to OC (which I suppose isn't really warranted with that combo), I should step up to 1000W?

[elfin trout]

For any normal OC, it'd still be fine, there's still a decent bit of room, like pbo on the 5950x is just another 50w max, leaves you a bit of room for 6900xt

6900xt power draw testing was a bit weird but eh

[sterile pasture]

Nice! I'll check out those articles. Cheers! 🍻

[elfin trout]

links here then
https://overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/amd_radeon_rx_6900_xt_review/21
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-ryzen-9-5950x-5900x-zen-3-review/4

[sterile pasture]

You are a Scholar and a Gentleman. Thank you!

[elfin trout]

:)

[barren oriole]

current options rn are:
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Bronze-Modular-Warranty-110-BQ-0600-K1/dp/B01MTJTO2O/
https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Modular-Warranty-Compact-220-B5-0550-V1/dp/B084RGH8W4/
https://www.amazon.com/Segotep-Gaming-Supply-Certified-Non-Modular/dp/B0832KN3RV/

@ me with what i should get but im leaning towards b5

50$ MAX budget but i'd like to spend less

thx <3

[fierce pivot]

I'd go segotep 600w purely because of the extra 50w over the b5

[barren oriole]

Issue is the amount od cables and price

[weary vine]

sam

[barren oriole]

I’m not gonna be drawing 600w either way with my current config

Or even 500 prolly

[fierce pivot]

How many of what do you need?

[barren oriole]

its not a lack of cables

its an abundance

my case isnt great for managing cables

[barren oriole]

Just re read this lol

I need literally 1 molex connector and then 4 Sata

At least 1xpcie 8 pin but 2x is preferred

And then the normal 24 pin and 8 pin cpu

[fierce pivot]

If tryna cut down then get the b5 imo

[barren oriole]

Yeah and it’s cheaper

So it’s probably whY I’m gonna go with

Unless someone recommends something better

[slate creek]

Can’t beat my old core v31 in terms of bad cable management, the thing has no space for cables in the back at all

[weary vine]

its about the same @slate creek

[tender oyster]

hello all i have a msi aegis 3 gaming desktop it came with a 450 watt 10 pin psu that went out im tryin to find a replacement but am having no luck ive searched and searched can anyone please help me get my computer running again?

[weary vine]

Lemme look for ya

8th gen intel cpu?

[tender oyster]

7th gen

[weary vine]

i7 or 7th gen?

[tender oyster]

it has a i7 7th gen

[weary vine]

https://www.msi.com/Desktop/Aegis-3

this one yeah?

[tender oyster]

thats the one

[weary vine]

lemme see if I can pull up a pic of the motherboard

[tender oyster]

ive been looking all night and havent even found one close to it

i can send pics of everything i have it all torn to bits and pieces lol

[weary vine]

send me pics of the motherboard

cant seem to find one on the web

[tender oyster]

all rdy sent to yur dm lol

along with a pic of the model number and everything

[weary vine]

incase any one you yall can help him out

[tender oyster]

im in bad need of a psu that will fit or not fit i just want it to run again at any cost lol

[tawny stirrup]

https://www.amazon.ca/COMeap-Adapter-Braided-Sleeved-Servers/dp/B06WV9Z9QT

sorry this is in canada but there should be something similar in america

[weary vine]

Yep I remembered

[tender oyster]

will that work tho?

[weary vine]

https://www.amazon.com/Segotep-Gaming-Supply-Certified-Non-Modular/dp/B0832KN3RV

[tender oyster]

im actually looking at a few

[weary vine]

https://www.amazon.com/COMeap-Adapter-Braided-Sleeved-Servers/dp/B06WV9Z9QT/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=24+pin+to+10+pin&qid=1624281678&sr=8-3

[tawny stirrup]

i dont know about acc getting a 10 pin psu though

[weary vine]

Dont think they are available non oem

[tawny stirrup]

ik an adapter is gonna be harder to cable manage but

[weary vine]

closed case

no side glass

its fine

[tender oyster]

im not worried abt cable managment lol as long as it fires it back up

[weary vine]

buy the 2 things I linked

[tawny stirrup]

i dont find any 10 pin ones that dont seem like it's a scam

[weary vine]

no wait dont

[tender oyster]

lol

i almost did lol

[weary vine]

ok now go ahead

[tawny stirrup]

you could also consider an evga one for their membership but their quality is not the best

[weary vine]

I linked the wrong adapter

[tawny stirrup]

what do you think about an evga one rawr?

[weary vine]

Link?

[tawny stirrup]

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=110-BQ-0600-K1

[tender oyster]

i just put them in my cart for now lol im doin some research

[tawny stirrup]

cause with an evga one you can also get their memebership which can help you with getting a gpu and stuff

[weary vine]

tier c

[tawny stirrup]

idk though, have never bought an evga product

[weary vine]

segotep is tier b

[tender oyster]

i have a evga 650 watt atx power supply sitting here

[tawny stirrup]

yea exactly, it;s not very high quality

but idk if it matters that much

[weary vine]

model?

[weary vine]

better to buy a higher tier one if same price

[tender oyster]

o im sorry its a 450 watt not 650

[tawny stirrup]

tru

[tender oyster]

im looking now one sec rawr

[tawny stirrup]

then just buy the one rawr linked

[weary vine]

what capacity was the one that died

[tender oyster]

its a logisys ps575xbk is the model i thought it was a evga cause it was in a evga box

450 watt

[weary vine]

btw do you have a 1060 or a 1070 in the pc?

[tender oyster]

i pretty sure its the 1060

[weary vine]

450 is cutting it close tbh

should be enough for ur pc but its very close to the edge from what nvidia reccomends

[tender oyster]

yea its what it came with lol

[tawny stirrup]

should be fine tbh

[weary vine]

But that unit is broken right

[tawny stirrup]

nvm it's not fine lmao it's broken

[tender oyster]

i believe so i tried to turn it on and no power

[weary vine]

what all have you tried

troubleshooting wise

[tender oyster]

not much honestly i automatically suspected power supply

i didnt remove anything other then the unit itself

[tawny stirrup]

so after you turned on the computer, it didn't boot/post?

[weary vine]

robably best to do a few other steps before jumping the gun on a purchase

[tawny stirrup]

wdym by no power?

if it was the former, then so many things could have been wrong instead of the psu

[tender oyster]

exactly it did nothing hit the button and nothing no fan spins no beeps whistles nothing dead

[weary vine]

tried resetting cmos?

[tawny stirrup]

uh then it could have been some lose cables

[tender oyster]

i mean i can try to put the unit bk in and make sure

[weary vine]

do that

[tender oyster]

k ill post bk here whith results

[tawny stirrup]

gl

[echo socket]

How bad of a call is it for me to replace my EVGA 750B2 with a Xilence Performance X P650?

[tawny stirrup]

why would you want to replace it?

[echo socket]

Noise mainly.

Though my 3060Ti FE's faulty back fan makes a high-pitched whine, it seems my PSU makes a ton of fan noise.

in all honesty I thought I had a CX550M, ordered the Xilence PSU I was recommended, then remembered I had swapped my CX550M with this EVGA one.

[tawny stirrup]

i dont see why not but it just seems like a waste to me

[echo socket]

Still, hoping this one is quieter. Also I might resell the 750W one since I heard those are going for more nowadays, and I don't really need 750W

[tawny stirrup]

yea 650w is more than enough for the 3060ti + 11400f

[echo socket]

Do you think it might be quieter?

Hard to measure over the super loud GPU fans but I'm really sensitive to noise.

[tawny stirrup]

ik that Xilence does not a spotless track record of good psus

but

not sure if this is good or not

i would go with a Segotep one rawr linked

[echo socket]

Multiple people recommended me this one for replacing the CX550M, which had a coil whine issue.

[tawny stirrup]

oh ok then ig this is one of the better ones

[echo socket]

I already bought this one, I have to choose whether to just send it back or replace my loud EVGA one.

[ruby yacht]

Is it bad to hear a snapping noise when the PC fully shutdown?

[tawny stirrup]

then keep it ig? plug it in so you can test out the noise

[echo socket]

I get a really loud pop from my speakers every time I turn it on or off.

So it's probably normal?

[tawny stirrup]

thought you didn't have it and was wondering if the noise levels would be better but in this case then just test it out

[ruby yacht]

i don't have speakers it didn't make the noise before I changed the PSU

[echo socket]

I don't think I'd be able to tell the difference in volume, I was hoping to reduce the headaches I get from being near my PC without headphones

I guess I'll try it out. Can't hurt to go down to 650W, and if I keep it I could resell the 750W used for maybe more than this Xilence one.

[tawny stirrup]

wait, didn't you say your old one was too loud?

how can you not tell the difference between a psu that you thought was too loud and had to replace with a new one that a lot of people recommanded?

am i missing something here lol

[echo socket]

It produces a lot of fan noise (not high pitched, that comes from a faulty GPU fan) which induces headaches. I'm hoping the Xilence one produces less noise as the other fans in my PC are all Silent Wings 2, which should be almost inaudible at normal operation.

I do mine crypto on my PC when idle, but the noise appears the same regardless.

[tawny stirrup]

mhm, faulty gpu fan on a 3060ti?

[echo socket]

Yes. Nvidia has agreed to RMA, planning to over the summer while I'm not home.

[tawny stirrup]

oh alright then

slot in the new psu

and see if there is any improvements

[echo socket]

We previously diagnosed here that the fan has a faulty bearing, it makes a constant loud whine (reminds me of coil whine) BUT it stops if I manually stop the fan with my fingers.

[tawny stirrup]

but you will get a new gpu soon so it shouldn't be that bad

[tawny stirrup]

does that 3060ti have a liquid bearing and your using a riser cable to position it upright or smt?

[echo socket]

Yeah, I was hoping for my whole PC to be quieter with the new high end case fans I bought from be quiet but it didn't improve much, so I'm blaming the PSU.

[tawny stirrup]

or was it just bc it was a badly produced product

[tender oyster]

ok so orignial psu bk in and when u first plug it in the leds on the front of the case flash for a brief second then nothing else none of the fans spin no beeps or anything just a quick blink of light then nothing

[tawny stirrup]

@weary vine (sorry for the ping but Chris is back)

[tawny stirrup]

nvm then it's prob just a manufacturing error

[weary vine]

clear cmoss

[tender oyster]

but there is extra cables on the unit idk where they go my ex buddy took it out and now we dont talk anymore

[echo socket]

The GPU is horrendous, I don't know why. It can barely run games at high settings that benchmarks claim it should, and it is insanely loud even with fans at 33% (the minimum it is locked to allow).

[weary vine]

I was afk yeah

[echo socket]

I've reinstalled Windows, upgraded the CPU, motherboard, RAM...

[weary vine]

those might be the issue

[tender oyster]

u think its cmos related?

[echo socket]

Maybe my CPU cooler is trash? No idea. My PC has always underperformed.

[tawny stirrup]

yup sounds like a phyical problem that you didn't cause

[tender oyster]

let me send u a pic really fast

[weary vine]

possible

[tawny stirrup]

wait a couple min before you put it back in btw

[tender oyster]

well there is no jumper for cmos battery so i guess just unplugging the battery does it

[tawny stirrup]

msi and their pre builts ugh

[weary vine]

unplug the psu as well

[tender oyster]

its been a amazing machine

[echo socket]

n e a t. PSU came broken

[tender oyster]

till now lol

[echo socket]

Or it looks broken:

[tawny stirrup]

you must be kidding

shipping problem ig

[echo socket]

It's only like that on one side.

Return?

[hollow gale]

yes!!!!

[echo socket]

;_; I should sell my PC and buy a prebuilt

[weary vine]

oofers

rma

[tawny stirrup]

no

[hollow gale]

if there was enough force to BEND a PSU, you dont know what other fkery is in there

[echo socket]

I've built my friends PCs that run better than mine and cost half the price.

[tender oyster]

omfg

[weary vine]

Drop kick trick shots

[tender oyster]

rawr

i love u

its powered up not dead psu

[weary vine]

CMOS fixed it?

[echo socket]

The same Minecraft shaders my friend runs with a 1060 3GB and a Ryzen 5 run at 50fps on my 3060Ti + i7-7700

[tender oyster]

yes

cmos work

[weary vine]

Amazing stuff!

[ruby yacht]

Is it bad to hear a snapping noise sounding like a switch being flipped when the PC fully shuts down? Didn't happen before I changed my PSU

[weary vine]

go click those heads!

[minor portal]

DJChris#5254 has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[tender oyster]

aww

im sorry

im just excitred

[weary vine]

Make sure to enable XMP in the bios

[weary vine]

Yep understandable

[echo socket]

yup RAM is OC'd as high as it goes

My PC is just arbitrarily bad.

[tawny stirrup]

thats not possible now

just dont get a pre built, they are so dumb

[weary vine]

talking to DJChris since he just reset cmos

[tawny stirrup]

the only reason ppl get them atm is to get a gpu

and you have one

[echo socket]

A gaming laptop would run better than my pile of trash

[hollow gale]

what res though? you both on 1080p?

[tender oyster]

now to put it bk together again lol and get it hooked bk up haha

[weary vine]

pretty ok priced considering the current market tbh

[echo socket]

Yes, we matched screen resolution and refresh rates, same Fedora install as well. Tried on Windows with no luck either.

[tawny stirrup]

he literally has a gpu and a whole system why should he get a pre built

[weary vine]

Im talking about em in general

not for a specific person

[tawny stirrup]

they are just annoying to work wtih tbh

[echo socket]

I bet nvidia sent me a GT 1030 in a 3000 series shell

[tawny stirrup]

[tawny stirrup]

that is literally not possible

you can underclock a 3060ti and still be miles ahead of the 1060

[opal night]

MC is mostly CPU based so whoever has the fastest CPU wins

[tawny stirrup]

shaders

[hollow gale]

I suspect your 4 year old Intel 4 core processor might be holding you back?

[opal night]

It's still CPU

[tawny stirrup]

and tru

[echo socket]

I have upgraded to a 10th gen i5 (nickname)

[opal night]

what board and ram speed

[tawny stirrup]

some newer shaders are starting to be more optimized i believe

[tawny stirrup]

11400f sweat spot atm

[hollow gale]

so you not running the i7 7700?

[echo socket]

not anymore

hold up I'm putting the jet engine PSU back in

[tawny stirrup]

how close is the performence?

[hollow gale]

what motherboard?

[tawny stirrup]

why would the mob matter

[echo socket]

ASRock B560 Pro4

It had just come out when I bought it a couple months back

[opal night]

ram speed

B460 limits to 2666

B560 does not

[echo socket]

and discord still lags when I scroll. My ThinkPad from 2013 is faster.

[opal night]

10400 with 3200 mhz ram outperforms Ryzen 3600. With 2666 it does not

[tawny stirrup]

oh mb

[hollow gale]

the cheaper B560 motherbaords KILL cpu perfomance

[tawny stirrup]

that asrock one is fine though

[opal night]

ONly the high end ones because they can't supply enough power

[echo socket]

PSU fan should go down or up? It's on a table.

[opal night]

Think 11600 and up

[hollow gale]

right. ignore my comment

[opal night]

If your case has a screen/hole at the bottom, fan goes down

[weary vine]

that screams driver problem to me

[echo socket]

k cool

[hollow gale]

yeah. this is seriously bad

[echo socket]

I've tried both on Fedora Linux and Windows, both with latest nvidia drivers

[tawny stirrup]

intel drivers?

[weary vine]

Yeah latest ones are kinda trashy

[echo socket]

There's Intel drivers?

[tawny stirrup]

sadly yea...

[weary vine]

chipset

[tawny stirrup]

you have a 11400f no?

[weary vine]

Also use 3 version old nvidia drivers

not the most recent

DDU

and install the older ones

[echo socket]

ok

[fierce pivot]

What's wrong with most recent?

[opal night]

They cause issues

latest nvidia driver was crap for me

Sips had to go back two versions to 45x something

Seems more like a Ram speed/other non-gpu driver issue tho

[weary vine]

Worth a try

[weary vine]

Exactly why I suggested 3 to be safe

[opal night]

Lag like that is usually something else

[weary vine]

fair

[opal night]

drive/ram speed/cpu speed/something

[fierce pivot]

Less perf or?

[weary vine]

whats his ram speed?

[opal night]

Ya and crashing

and weird artifacts

[weary vine]

Ill get him to test cpu temps after this

[hollow gale]

ram speed wont affect scrolling in discord

[opal night]

depends..........

[hollow gale]

dude

[opal night]

dood

[hollow gale]

😆

[opal night]

Never count anything out

never

[hollow gale]

fair

[weary vine]

Absolutely can

[opal night]

KISS is the best mantra

start simple

[hollow gale]

ok, then he must Steve Burke it

[tawny stirrup]

how tf can a 11400f no handle discord scrolling

[opal night]

It's not an 11400

[fierce pivot]

You think I'd get better scores in timespy with 3 versions older drivers cuz was tryna oc today and got 2130mhz but only a score of 15 099 and my high is 15 222

[tawny stirrup]

any modern cpu should have no issue scrolling discord though

[weary vine]

vintage could you recap his specs for me?

[opal night]

overclocking can have diminishing returns

Too high and the score starts to go down

[tawny stirrup]

maybe the discord part is due to server/discord limitations or wifi

[fierce pivot]

Ik but was just wondering if it might help lol

[opal night]

Your old score of 152xx ws probably the max of the GPU

[weary vine]

^

[opal night]

getting close to the top scores on air

[fierce pivot]

Ahhh so I'd need to whip out some ln2 to go any higher ya reckon XD?

[weary vine]

pato

[opal night]

LN2?

[fierce pivot]

Not like i have any pots but

[weary vine]

try cranking gpu fans to 100%

[opal night]

Nah, just some A/C or a liquid loop

[fierce pivot]

I did

[weary vine]

I see

[opal night]

This steals wattage from the GPU core and VRAM 😉

[weary vine]

then yeah reduce ambient

[fierce pivot]

No ac in Ireland and don't have liquid parts either lol

[weary vine]

Ahh fair

[fierce pivot]

By a noticeable amount?

[weary vine]

do gpu fans use normal fan headers?

[opal night]

no

usually proprietary small connectors

[weary vine]

at that level of OC on air it can make smol difference

[opal night]

sometimes even an all in one 6 pin connector

[weary vine]

Time to floppa it then ig

[fierce pivot]

I seee it was undervolt too so i might just have done goofed something tbf

And was right before work so tried once then dipped

[weary vine]

Yeah you have to put in time tbf

try upping the voltage

but then fans need to be on so no throttle

[fierce pivot]

Tbf i don't wanna overvolt

It already went up to 1.08v when i ran the base test of +150 +1050

[opal night]

The OC on my 3070 I did without tinkering with voltage

Just PL

[tender oyster]

well more bad news i tried to hook it up threw my tv and it was getting no signal to the monitor the original graphics card has been taken out of it so i was tryin to use the onboard hdmi port and nothing

[opal night]

what cpu

[tender oyster]

intel i7 7th gen

[tawny stirrup]

does it have a f after the numbers

and concerning the monitor

did you try to turn the pc and monitor on at the same time?

[tender oyster]

well i put a different graphics card in it and still not getting signal to monitor

[tawny stirrup]

idfk know why, but when i turn on my system, i have to turn both the monitor and pc on at the exact same time, or else there is no signal

[tender oyster]

my monitor is on its staying in rest mode like its froze up

[tawny stirrup]

same

thats what happens if i dont turn them on at the same time

maybe try to turn them on at the same time?

[fierce pivot]

Same, the 15222 was just +150 +1050 ¯_(ツ)_/¯ i think it was a once off miracle lol

[tender oyster]

same results no post or nothing completely frozen at post

[tawny stirrup]

what did resetting the cmos fix?

[tender oyster]

it now turns on

all fans spin and lights are all on it wouldnt do anything before

[tawny stirrup]

thats good news

[tender oyster]

yup

[tawny stirrup]

so now, it just doesnt post

[tender oyster]

right

[tawny stirrup]

are there any error leds on the mob

[tender oyster]

no there is no leds on the mob at all

[tawny stirrup]

nothing that looks like that ^ ?

[tender oyster]

nope nothing

im wondering if this graphics card is to old its only ddr2 graphics card but its all i have right now i was just tryin to see if it would do anything for signal

[tawny stirrup]

where are you plugging the monitor into?

[tender oyster]

the graphics card its the only input for a monitor i have

[tawny stirrup]

mhm

there is no display port on the mob?

[tender oyster]

there is a display port but my monitor dont support it

[opal night]

What GPU is it?

Is this a Windows 10 install?

[tawny stirrup]

maybe someone more knowledgeable can help you lol, i have no idea what could be wrong

[opal night]

It may indeed be too old, older GPU's don't support UEFI boot and may be interfering with your BIOS

[tender oyster]

well i was using it in a dell optiplex 390 wich also has windows 10 installed

[opal night]

Right but older machines probably use Legacy boot, if you put it in a newer machine, newer ones use UEFI

and thus you run into issues

[tender oyster]

i have no os installed right now on it tho im just tryin to get it to post

[opal night]

I understand

UEFI is a BIOS level thing

What gpu is it

[tender oyster]

yea so looks like imma need to find a newer graphics card to try

a nvidia geforce 8600

[opal night]

Yeah, that's a non-UEFI card unless a new VBIOS is flashed

[tender oyster]

i even pulled the ram out to see if a ram error beep would sound and nothing

it litteraly only lights up and fan spin no hard drive sounds no beeps no nothing at all and i have to hold the power button in to turn it bk off like its frozen on post up

[opal night]

If the GPU is physically in the machine take it out

[tender oyster]

i did

i was hoping to see more signs of life but getting no signal is pointing towards a bad mob now and i dont have the money to buy the exact graphics card that was in it so i guess it goes bk on the shelf for now till i can figure it out

ty all for yur help it was much appreciated at least i got it to do something different lol

[barren oriole]

ok before i order it

45$ B5 550W or 40$ 600BQ

suggestions are cool too

no more than like 45$ though

[chrome iris]

are they used? I believe B5 is a fair amount better, would be worth the extra $5

[barren oriole]

Nope

[chrome iris]

BQ has smol heatsinks, undersized, and too high OTP (iirc), which are the main reasons its bad, I believe the 500,600,700 versions are the worst, and then 850w, and then 750,650w versions are the best

not a lot is known about the B5 iirc but on paper and what is known it looks like a better than the BQ at least

Mr1111 correct me if im wrong i might be

[elfin trout]

don't know any real b5 reviews so yea

[chrome iris]

https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/psu/144901-evga-550-b5-psu-550w/
this is the best i got

[elfin trout]

yea that one is a very bare bones review

[chrome iris]

exactly

looks to have not the greatest ripple ever? sign of low-ish quality caps but should suffice

5 year warranty is alr

[elfin trout]

I just don't really trust the resolution of the data tbh

they don't even have internal pics

[chrome iris]

yeah

[barren oriole]

so go for it?

[chrome iris]

sure

[barren oriole]

well like go for it over the bq

[chrome iris]

yes

[elfin trout]

b5 over bq for now yes

[barren oriole]

alright

any other suggestions in the 45$ range?

[chrome iris]

nop

[barren oriole]

alr

oh there is also a cx 450m iirc

[elfin trout]

cxm suck

[chrome iris]

id take the higher wattage

and cxm aint even that good

[barren oriole]

alr

[elfin trout]

cx 550 and above are pretty good

cx 450 having only a single pcie 8 pin kinda sucks

[barren oriole]

yeah

this one gots 2

[slate creek]

All this talk about bad caps makes me want to open up my old PSU and replace the caps in it

[languid topaz]

I tried to start Enermax Revolution DF 850w for the first time. I turns on for half a second then shuts off immediately. I tried turning it on with only the 24-pin motherboard connection & the CPU connection but same thing. Any ideas?

Also tried just 24-pin cable attached with 4&5 shorted. No fan spin

or other signs fo life

[elfin trout]

weird, doesn't seem to have zero rpm fan mode, so it should be spinning if it's working

[chrome iris]

opening up a psu is dangerous

[slate creek]

Lmao I don’t gotta worry about that, I already work with tube/valve amps which are much more dangerous often times

Storing often times over 1k volts and high current will definitely kill you with one wrong step

[elfin trout]

dem caps do be the same - on the death bit

[slate creek]

As well as a bad solder joint could as well kill you and burn the house down at the same time

[elfin trout]

but please do be careful if you're planning on doing that

[slate creek]

I always am

One hand behind the back, insulated shoes, all that fun stuff

[elfin trout]

good

[slate creek]

Discharging tool for caps, etc

I wonder how good caps and components would affect the performance of a PSU

[elfin trout]

well

what psu is it you're talking about?

[slate creek]

I have some high power thing I pulled out of a cyberpower PC

[elfin trout]

there's always just bad protections that you can't do too much to fix without changing the whole psu

[chrome iris]

high power

[barren oriole]

does not seem floppin

[sand atlas]

This is the most frightening power supply I've seen in a while. They're selling a 750W power supply for $55 that has no brand name and looks like something from 2010 that they opened up and put an rgb fan into. They also can't decide on the listing if it's bronze or gold rated.
https://www.newegg.com/p/1HU-02RG-00009

[marble gull]

thoughts on the ENERMAX Revolution D.F. 850w? ive almost never heard of it, but people always suggest it.

https://www.newegg.com/enermax-80-plus-erf650awt-850w/p/1HU-0042-000R0?Item=1HU-0042-000R0&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2F&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-1lsv5ve7XatehPMAV0PeWg

[fierce pivot]

AMAZING

[marble gull]

why is that?

[mild roost]

It's a good psu

[fierce pivot]

Great psu, great price

[sand atlas]

https://www.thefpsreview.com/2019/08/07/enermax-revolution-df-850w-power-supply-review/7/

Pretty much everything they say about it is excellent, excellent, excellent, quiet, and excellent

[marble gull]

so is there really anything better at the pricepoint?

[elfin trout]

no

hell, you it's arguable that there's nothing better in terms of quality until you get to like hxi

[fierce pivot]

No

[elfin trout]

well, not really arguable, it's the best PSU you can get at 850w imo, bar the hx plat

[opal night]

I think it's the best sub $200 PSU period. Aren't the HX and all those over $200 or close to it?

[fierce pivot]

Something like that ye

[elfin trout]

yea, hx850 is 200$

[opal night]

Ya, amazing at that price point

[marble gull]

what makes it so good then? like what's special about it?

[elfin trout]

good ripple good protections multi rail good price

[opal night]

Build quality, voltage regulation, rails are multi instead of single, the protections are set properly, all the things

[marble gull]

ah

[elfin trout]

good efficiency good platform

[marble gull]

oh yeah isnt it 80+ gold?

[fierce pivot]

Ye but most psus that are good are now anyway

[marble gull]

so isnt that like about 80% efficient

[elfin trout]

nonono

[fierce pivot]

Nope 80% is 80plus white

[elfin trout]

the specifications don't even tell you how the PSU perform either

[fierce pivot]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

[elfin trout]

hell, at higher loads, revolution d.f. goes beyond the 80+ Plat requirements for efficiency in testing

[fierce pivot]

Damm didn't know that

[elfin trout]

yaknow

[fierce pivot]

Sick

[marble gull]

the more you know

[fierce pivot]

Revo df bae

[marble gull]

also are LTT cable ties the best cable ties?

hehe

[fierce pivot]

They're just cable ties

[marble gull]

well yeh

[fierce pivot]

I'm sure they're decent quality tho

[ruby yacht]

Y'all didn't hype me up on the DF and I got the phanteks lol making me have buyers remorse

[elfin trout]

both are good

amp also hype

[chrome iris]

I have AMP

It’s good

[opal night]

AMP is just Seasonic

XD

[sand atlas]

I got the Corsair RM850x, it has even better ripple and transient than the Revo DF. It tends to be more expensive, but I got it for a bargain at $105.

[opal night]

For $105 that is indeed a great bargain

That's what I paid for my AMP 750

[elfin trout]

single rail tho

revo df with the tighter ocp >:D

same platform tho

[sand atlas]

Multi rail would have been nice yeah but I noticed the sale on Corsair's website and it was hard to pass up at that price.
It doesn't really make that much difference tbh.

[elfin trout]

Mhm

[fallow cairn]

Eh I'd go Revolution DF

Revo as it is peeks at around 20mV on the 12v rail at max load, RMx is what like 12mV or so?

Both have good ripple suppression

But the Revo has a better fan along with the self cleaning system thing

[opal night]

Does that actually work though or is it a gimmick?

[fallow cairn]

yea it does

Spins in reverse to blow out the dust

Heavily advertised about it too

[opal night]

Yeah I saw the advertisement

Just didn't know if it was a gimmick or really useful

Like the VRM fan on the Arctic AIO's. It's a bit of both

[elfin trout]

mmm

offset mount makes freezer ii special

multi rail makes revo df special

[opal night]

I was talking about the VRM fan

XD

It's a bit of a gimmick but does kinda work

[elfin trout]

nono, I was making comparison

[opal night]

Multi rail at the price point makes it special

[elfin trout]

freezer ii gimmick - vrm fan
revo df gimmick - dust-free

but the other thing really sets it apart

[opal night]

ya XD

The offset mount is pog

Surprised no one else did it unless patent?

[elfin trout]

I doubt it was patent

[opal night]

Me too

[elfin trout]

there were also people on reddit that were doing offset mount after they found hotspots, months before arctic came with offset mount iirc

[sturdy valve]

Hey is it worth to downgrade from atx to mini atx or itx? I want to have more space so I can play game and do my art on L shaped table.

My current case is TT View 27 or 37 I think.

[fierce pivot]

Just put the case on the floor?

[slate creek]

^

[elfin trout]

It's also not really a downgrade

Smaller doesn't mean you lose performance

[grizzled glacier]

Need recommendations for replacement cables for PSU. Mine are ugly

[modern arrow]

https://www.newegg.ca/corsair-rmx-series-rm850x-cp-9020200-na-850w/p/N82E16817139272

A good psu or nah? ^^^

[elfin trout]

pricy

would grab revolution d.f. 850w instead imo

[modern arrow]

I don't really have a budget, and I barely know revolution

[fierce pivot]

revolution is cheaper and better than rmx

its based off the same psu but modded to be multi rail

[modern arrow]

hmmm ill think about it

[sturdy valve]

Is there any like smaller case that can fit atx?

[fierce pivot]

P360a is kinda small atx

[azure harness]

Tuf gt301

[elfin trout]

It's good in general

[tiny summit]

I brought a 100w for the price of the 850 for you. Wait and see if the prices go down. Or do what Mr111 suggestion, it's good psu too

[tiny summit]

You can try cable mods

[modern arrow]

100w?

[fierce pivot]

Think they meant 1000w

[fierce pivot]

Keep in mind that's newegg.ca so there 180 cad not usd

Also revolution df not available in Canada

If you where getting 750w or something i would say phanteks amp but that tops at 750w

[fierce pivot]

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/dvH8TW/cooler-master-v-gold-v2-850-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-mpy-850v-agbag-us imo I'd just get this instead and save a bit unless you really want the rmx which is better but i mean how much are you gonna stress your psu lol

[tiny summit]

I meant 100W. I was typing too fast.

that why I said to wait and see if prices goes down

[fierce pivot]

But there's no way you getting a 1000w for 180 cad

[tiny summit]

well I know. I said that I got the 1000W here in the US for nearly the same price. If this person can wait, maybe the price would go down

[fierce pivot]

You mean 180ish usd? Right? That's a pretty big diff

[modern arrow]

We're talking CAD currency here, not USD

[tame vale]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MTJTO2O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 VS. Enermax Revolution D.F. 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply . For an Intel Core i9-9900?

[opal night]

what gpu

[tame vale]

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card

[opal night]

Well, that means The Enermax out of those two then

600 BQ won't quite cut it

850 is also overkill for that, Phanteks AMP 750 or similar good 750W PSU would be fine. 650 might even cut it if it's a good one.

[tame vale]

Thank you!

[fallow cairn]

Other way around

Revolution DF is a base CWT GPU but with a better fan

Base CWT GPU are as it is are multi rail units

They aren't modded in any sort

RMx is a modified CWT GPU Unit that performs differently

[subtle swallow]

Hey I was wondering if a 600 W PSU would be enough when i calculated like 565 W for the PC. I mean of course is 600 W more than 565 W but would this cause a problem?

[elfin trout]

Depends on how you calculated it

By tdp, no, tdp specs don't exactly reflect actual power draw

If you found actual power draw testing for each component, yea, that'll be fine

[subtle swallow]

I mean I used the bequiet calculator.

So not actual testing

It's going to be i7-10700KF with RTX 2060 Super. What does tdp stand for ?

[elfin trout]

Thermal design power, it's the listed spec, but won't mean much when it comes to actual real world power draw

[fading trout]

Quick question I've seen that on most power supplies it says 80+ bronze or gold etc what's the difference between them all

[elfin trout]

10700k draws up to around 150w stock, up to 250w oc, 2060 super draws up to around 200w stock, so at stock, add in 150w placeholder for rest of system power draw, that brings you to 500w power draw stock

[elfin trout]

All they mean is efficiency rating, nothing more than that, a 80+ Bronze PSU can be better than a 80+ Gold PSU in general in all other measurements of performance, and a 80+ Bronze PSU might be even more efficient than a 80+ Gold PSU at full load, since the efficiency rating is given for efficiency at all loads

Wikipedia for the specific levels
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_Plus

[subtle swallow]

thank you @elfin trout , now my worries are gone that something could go wrong. 🙂 👍

[elfin trout]

:)

[fading trout]

Oh ok then thanks

[elfin trout]

Easiest tool for overall PSU quality:
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/

[fading trout]

Thx

[elfin trout]

Sources for numbers:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-10700k-cpu-review/2
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-super-geforce-rtx-2070-super,6207-5.html

[subtle swallow]

Oh nice, I will keep this in mind for the future.

[subtle swallow]

👍

[fierce pivot]

Ahh woops thanks for the correction

[tough elm]

rmx>

[fierce pivot]

?

[odd rapids]

Hi

[tough elm]

hi chevster

:chevy:

they don’t allow external emotes 😔

[odd rapids]

Rip

[fierce pivot]

They do

[odd rapids]

He’s not cool enough that’s why

[sand atlas]

Need to be nitro for external emotes

[tough elm]

shut it, i’m cooler than dry ice

[odd rapids]

Why this channel sir

#storage-devices is more for you

SSD weirdo

[tough elm]

um bc that channel is just too frustrating

like a college graduate revisiting 3rd grade

[odd rapids]

[tough elm]

very cool, glad you learned

[hazy forge]

Its not recommended to use cables from one PSU for another right?

[sand atlas]

Not unless you like fire

[hazy forge]

ok lol yeah figured that would be the outcome

I'm 1 sata power connector short

Got a 500w PSU for my NAS and added 2 HDDs today. Got six drives and a fan controller, but only 6 sata connectors

They make molex to sata things right?

[sand atlas]

Yes that would work

[hazy forge]

Need to buy one yuck lol. Thought I might get lucky and have one lol

[tough elm]

@tender ginkgo

[loud falcon]

Any recommendations on a 850w psu

[elfin trout]

Revolution d.f.

[weary vine]

I like how you took the time to reply in both places

[elfin trout]

Yea well I'm tired of pointing people to one place or guessing which chat they're watching, might as well do it twice

[weary vine]

smart

[elfin trout]

I kind of want to write a guide/overview to PC building now

time to get all the techies together and get to work on a comprehensive guide

[weary vine]

I want fitz, arshia and alatron to write a book about mem oc

[elfin trout]

Lol

[fierce pivot]

Tbh same lol

[azure harness]

Hello. What’s a good airflow case for an i9 9900k-3070 and a big air cooler like d15, more like an asus tuf gt501 which is unavailable here